Tuesday, 2017-11-21

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hongbin#startmeeting zun03:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 21 03:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.03:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.03:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'zun'03:00
hongbin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2017-11-21_0300_UTC Today's agenda03:00
hongbin#topic Roll Call03:00
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hongbinhi kevinz03:02
hongbinit looks it is two of us03:02
hongbinhi mkrai03:02
mkraihi hongbin kevinz03:02
hongbinthere are three people today03:02
hongbinwe can do a quick update of each of us , then end the meeting shortly03:02
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mkraiYes sounds good03:03
hongbinkevinz: want to go first ?03:03
kevinzI'm working on cinder attach volume with capsule03:03
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kevinzI have a problem03:04
kevinzdo we now can support zun run  to create a new volume and attach it to container?03:04
hongbinzun run --mount source=<volume_id>,destination=<path> <image03:05
hongbinthis is the command to do it03:05
hongbinoh, create a new volume03:05
kevinzif the volume don't exist,03:05
hongbinthat is not supported, sorry for that03:06
kevinzOK feel free.03:06
hongbinany idea about that ?03:06
kevinzmaybe we can do just set the destination could create a new volume?03:07
hongbinyes, i am open for that03:07
kevinzzun run --mount destination=<path> <image03:07
hongbinthis might requires to extend the --mount option to support parameters for cinder create03:07
mkrai+1 for it03:08
hongbine.g. size, name, ...03:08
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hongbinsure, that could be a good idea03:08
kevinzIf we agree, I will do this one03:08
kevinzCool, thanks hongbin mkrai03:08
hongbinthanks kevinz03:09
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kevinzmy pleasure03:09
hongbinanything else from your side kevinz ?03:09
kevinzThat all from me03:10
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hongbinok, thanks kevinz03:10
hongbinmkrai: you have anything to update ?03:10
mkraihongbin: yes a little03:10
mkraiI update the patch for CC support in devstack to include check for virt flags03:11
mkrai#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499534/03:11
mkraiThere is some failure in the patch03:11
mkraiSo I will check it in this week03:11
hongbinok, the flag is good03:11
mkraihongbin: all CI is on VM?03:11
hongbinmkrai: i think so03:12
mkraiOk that's the reason it fails03:12
mkraibut there should be a warning not failure03:12
mkraiSo I will update the patch03:12
mkraihongbin: If you have time, please review :)03:13
hongbinmkrai: ok, sure03:13
mkraithank you hongbin03:13
mkraiThat's all from me03:13
hongbinthanks mkrai03:13
hongbinfrom me, a short update03:13
hongbini am cleaning up the PCI/SR-IOV patches03:13
hongbinthere are several patches under review03:14
hongbinand there is a patch in kuryr-libnetwork as well, which is also under review03:14
hongbinhowever, i expect there is no problem to merge those patches03:14
mkraihongbin: I will help in merging those patches03:15
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hongbinand there is a demo in sydney based on those patches, they should work very well03:15
mkraiWill review it03:15
hongbinmkrai: thx03:15
hongbinthat is all from my side03:15
hongbinall, thanks for joining the meeting today03:15
hongbinsee you next time03:15
kevinzsee you03:15
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Nov 21 03:15:56 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)03:15
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-11-21-03.00.html03:15
mkraithanks kevinz hongbin03:16
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-11-21-03.00.txt03:16
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-11-21-03.00.log.html03:16
kevinzbye mkrai hongbin03:16
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tpatilI will chair today's masakari meeting as Sampath san is busy04:00
tpatil#startmeeting masakari04:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 21 04:01:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'masakari'04:01
tpatilHi All04:01
Dinesh_BhorHi all04:01
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tpatil#link : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Masakari04:01
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sagaraI heard today Sampath cannot join this meeting04:02
tpatil#topic High priority items04:02
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tpatilanyone wants to discuss about high priority items04:03
tpatil#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/172174204:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1721742 in masakari "Masakari will fail to recovery instances on failure host if instance's task_state is not none" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to takahara.kengo (takahara.kengo)04:03
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tpatilAny update about this bug04:03
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tpatilIt looks like Honjo san is not available as well04:05
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Dinesh_Bhorthere is a patch for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515013/04:05
Dinesh_Bhorbut looks like launchpad is not updated accordingly04:05
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tpatilYes, it's strange04:06
abhishekklooks like bot job which updates the laucnhpad has some problem04:07
tpatilJenkins jobs are failing, takahara.kengo will need to fix it04:07
tpatilAnyone wants to discuss about any bugs?04:07
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tpatilmoving ahead04:08
tpatil#topic Discussion points04:09
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tpatilHorizon plugins04:09
tpatilNiraj has proposed two patches to add masakari-dashboard repo, review is in progress04:09
tpatil# link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516554/04:10
tpatil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516554/04:10
tpatil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516550/04:10
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tpatil^^ Zulu job is failing, need to fix it04:11
tpatilnext, Install guide document04:11
tpatilNeeds review04:12
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tpatilRequest core team to review install guide patches04:13
tpatilnext, Recovery method customization04:13
Dinesh_BhorI have updated the spec for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458023/04:15
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tpatilAbove specs supports to configure driver per notification type04:15
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tpatilIn the current master branch, operator can configure one driver to execute recovery action for all notification types04:16
Dinesh_BhorI think ill need to point the spec to queens. Before that queens spec directory needs to be created.04:17
tpatilDinesh_bhor: please do the needful04:17
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Dinesh_Bhortpatil: yes04:18
tpatilNow, the above specs will allow operator to configure one driver per notification type.  mistral driver will be added in this new specs04:18
tpatilDinesh_Bhor:Thank you04:18
tpatilPlease review the specs04:19
tpatilNext, Find hosts without specifying segments04:19
tpatiltakahara.kengo has made changes to the specs as suggested by samP04:20
tpatilLet's review the specs and implementation04:20
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tpatil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/find-segment-by-host+(status:open+OR+status:merged)04:20
tpatilNext, Queens Items04:22
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tpatil#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-queens-workitems04:22
tpatilI don't have any new update since last meeting04:23
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tpatilI will skip next item "BM HA (ironic + nova)" as samP is not available today in this meeting04:25
tpatilnext, OpenStack Proposal Bot updates04:26
tpatilIn the last week, many bot updates patches were merged. Now, only one patch is up for review04:26
tpatilIn the next meeting, I will remove this item from the agenda04:27
tpatilmoving ahead04:27
tpatil#topic AOB04:27
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tpatilAnyone looked into migrating masakari from launchpad to storyboard?04:28
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Dinesh_Bhorno not yet04:28
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sagara_Not yet04:28
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tpatilAs it's not mandatory to use storyboard, we can skip it to the next release unless someone is interested to do it in this release04:30
tpatilAnyone wants to bring up any new topic?04:31
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tpatil#topic: Ansible support for Masakari04:32
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tpatilI don't have any update about this item04:33
Dinesh_Bhorlast meeting we discussed that we need ansible plugin for this04:33
tpatilDo we need to add VM HA support using masakari in Ansible?04:33
tpatilsorry, I didn't attend last meeting and didn't check the logs before this meeting as well04:34
Dinesh_BhorI searched about other openstack projects. Magnum has separate project for this: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_magnum04:34
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Dinesh_BhorFrom operators point of view, they need a way to install and configure all masakari services using ansible. This above project helps to install magnum using ansible. It works with openstack/ansible project.04:36
tpatilSo this new plugin will install masakari and during this process, we will need configure failover segments, hosts etc to support VM HA. Also need to install masakari-monitor on compute nodes04:36
Dinesh_Bhortpatil: yes04:37
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tpatilOk, Let's discuss who is interested to work on this item in the next meeting. I think we should target it for the next release though04:38
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tpatilStill have 20 minutes left04:39
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tpatilIf no one has anything left for discussion, let's end this meeting04:41
tpatilPlease use openstack-masakari channel should you have any questions04:42
tpatilThank you, All04:42
Dinesh_BhorJust a reminder. Zuul is passing on this patch now: https://review.openstack.org/515013. It is open for review now.04:42
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Nov 21 04:42:30 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)04:42
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-11-21-04.01.html04:42
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-11-21-04.01.txt04:42
Dinesh_BhorThank you all04:42
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-11-21-04.01.log.html04:42
tpatilThanks, Dinesh for the update04:42
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sagara_Thank you04:43
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chenying_ #startmeeting karbor09:04
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jlibosva#startmeeting networking14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 21 14:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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jlibosvahi everyone14:00
jlibosva#topic Announcements14:01
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jlibosvaWe're migrating the tempest tests to separate neutron-tempest-plugin repo14:01
jlibosvaso please if you want to send patches to either scenarios or api tests, it will need to go to neutron-tempest-plugin repo14:01
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jlibosvathere are still patches in flight regarding zuul but they should be solved soon14:02
jlibosvanext one: we're slowly approaching Q2, Dec 7 should be the deadline14:02
mlavallejlibosva: how about a patch like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519198/14:03
jlibosvathat's all from me, does anybody have anything to announce?14:03
jlibosvamlavalle: looking14:03
mlavallethat patch still goes in Neuron, right?14:03
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jlibosvamlavalle: right, it has corresponding patch in tempest-plugin repo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52023314:04
amotokiin my understanding, job defintions should go to the neutron repo14:04
jlibosvaamotoki: the job definition uses tempest-plugin tho14:05
amotokisorry, job consumption should go to the neutron14:05
amotokijlibosva: yes, you are right14:05
jlibosvaack :)14:05
mlavalleamotoki: still useful to clarify, thanks14:05
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jlibosvaanything else to announce?14:05
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jlibosvalet's move on then14:06
jlibosva#topic Blueprints14:06
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jlibosva#link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/queens-214:06
jlibosvathat reminds me I should spend more time reviewing firewall logging patches ...14:07
jlibosvaanybody has anything related to blueprints? any blockers?14:07
annpyeah, thanks in advance jakub14:07
mlavallehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/floating-ip-rate-limit is making excellent progress14:08
mlavallethe TC lib patch was merged last week14:08
mlavalleServer side needs one more +2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424466/14:08
mlavallehhopefully haleyb can take a look14:09
annpjlibosva: I'd like to speed up on firewall logging patch's because 7 DEC is deadline for Q2.14:09
hichiharamlavalle: I checked the patch today and then I'll test it works fine in my env.14:09
jlibosvaannp: yes, I'm aware :)14:09
mlavallehichihara: thanks:-)14:09
annpjakub, thanks :)14:09
haleybmlavalle: sorry, was late, workstation with my irc proxy lost power and i'm not near it14:10
mlavallehaleyb: np, thanks14:10
mlavallehichihara: keep in mind the agent side is not ready yet14:11
hichiharamlavalle: yeah. I'll try to check API side only.14:11
jlibosvaok, any other BP worth discussion?14:12
amotokimlavalle: hichihara: about qos-fip patch?14:12
hichiharaamotoki: Right14:12
amotokihichihara: thanks. two blueprints were being discussed :)14:12
* mlavalle created the confusion :-(14:13
jlibosvaI thought the qos-fip patch is realated to the fip rate limit :)14:14
jlibosvaseems like we can move on now?14:15
mlavalleI think so14:15
jlibosva#topic Starter Approved RFEs14:15
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jlibosvaI see three RFEs at the wikipage14:15
mlavalleavailable for new contributors to take them over14:16
jlibosva#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/165393214:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1653932 in neutron "[rfe] network router:external field not exported" [Wishlist,Triaged]14:16
jlibosva#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/168983014:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1689830 in neutron "[RFE] Add attribute to the a port that lists the UUIDs of other ports that the port is allowed to impersonate" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen)14:16
jlibosva#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/169043814:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1690438 in neutron "[RFE] make get-me-a-network work with any network topology" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Benjamin Kennel (bkennel)14:16
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mlavalleapparently the third one was claimed over the past few days14:16
jlibosvamlavalle: two are assigned, does it mean we do have contributors for those?14:17
mlavalleyeah, it looks like it14:17
jlibosvanice :)14:17
mlavalleThis is what this is for :-)14:18
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jlibosvaanything else related to those RFEs? any volunteers for the first one? ;)14:18
jlibosvaI guess we can jump to bugs then14:19
jlibosva#topic Bugs14:19
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jlibosvathe bug deputy for the last week was bzhao14:19
mlavalleno, I think it was haleyb14:20
* haleyb thought it was me as well14:20
jlibosvaah, sorry :)14:20
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mlavalleyeah, bzhao is this week14:20
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haleybThere was one critical that came in, possible DoS14:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1732294 in neutron "Probable DOS in linuxbridge" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)14:21
haleybi proposed a patch but submitter wasn't able to verify it14:21
haleybneeds some update testing since both old and new rules would be installed on a restart14:22
haleybthis one slipped through the cracks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/173206714:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1732067 in neutron "openvswitch firewall flows cause flooding on integration bridge" [Undecided,New]14:23
haleybcame in between deputies14:23
jlibosvaI actually consulted that with James14:23
jlibosvaon irc14:24
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jlibosvaI didn't add a proper tag though, thanks for bringing this up :)14:24
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mlavallejlibosva: how important should it be?14:25
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jlibosvamlavalle: I'm not really sure I understand clearly the issue. It's that replies don't know where to go because on incoming traffic we bypass normal switching, so the replies are sent to all interfaces on given local network14:26
jlibosvamlavalle: I don't think it's severe14:26
jlibosvabut maybe rackspace folks think it is :)14:26
jlibosvaalso I don't know how to fix it as the output action is much faster then normal action in openflow14:27
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haleybthere were some other dhcp-related bugs, all medium, and a lot of api-ref bugs by boden :)14:28
haleybthis was the only other high, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/173254314:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1732543 in neutron "HA network tenant network fails upon router delete" [High,Confirmed]14:28
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haleyba fix was proposed, but breaks something else, on my L3 radar now14:28
jlibosvashould we assign it to Steven then?14:29
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haleybi asked him to send it out for review, but he didn't know the workflow we have, havne't seen a response after that yet14:31
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jlibosvaI see but he seems to be one working on it, so it makes sense to me to have an assignee14:31
jlibosvawe can remove it if he goes silent14:31
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haleybsure, i'll assign it to him14:31
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jlibosvaI did :)14:32
jlibosvahaleyb: thanks for the report14:32
jlibosvaI think we can move to docs now14:32
jlibosva#topic Docs14:32
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jlibosvaboden: hi :)14:32
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jlibosvado you want to give any updates?14:33
bodenthe only think I wanted to mention (already hinted by haleyb) is that I went through all neutron extensions and determined those that needed updates in the api-ref14:33
bodenI created a bug for each that needs work in case someone else wants to help out14:33
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bodenthey all have the ‘api-ref’ tag.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=api-ref14:34
mlavalleok, so you need volunteers14:34
bodenno its fine.. I can process them over the next few weeks14:34
bodenjust saying if someone gets bored feel free to join the party if you want14:34
bodenthat’s all I really have14:34
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jlibosvaboden: thanks14:35
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jlibosvaboden: don't go far14:35
jlibosva#topic neutron-lib14:35
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bodenhi again14:35
jlibosvahi! :)14:36
bodenso a high-level thing14:36
bodenbased on recent ML discussion it appears we will start publishing server projects to pypi.. including neutron14:36
bodenone of the main motivations for neutron-lib was to provide something that could be released to pypi and versioned; since neutron couldn't14:37
jlibosva#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124676.html14:37
bodenso my question becomes; do we need to rethink what we want to do with neutron-lib, or just keep moving forward14:37
bodenthere are still some benefits to neutron-lib… consolodate concrete interfaces, reduce dependencies (neutron pulls along a number), etc..14:38
bodenanybody have thoughts on this topic?14:38
jlibosvawasn't the motivation also that other projects don't need to fetch the whole neutron code base with specific implementation ?14:38
mlavalleI don't know what to say right now. I will take a look at the thread and discuss in the channel14:38
jlibosvaah, you just wrote it in the meantime14:39
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bodenis armax around?14:39
mlavallefor the time being, I say let's carry on14:39
bodendoesnt look like it14:39
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jlibosvaboden: anything else for the lib?14:40
bodenthats all I have14:40
jlibosvaok, thanks14:40
jlibosva#topic Migration to OSC14:40
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jlibosvaamotoki: do you want to give updates?14:40
amotokithere are several things14:40
amotokithere are several pending patches in neutronclient repo. reviews would be appreciated14:41
amotokiit looks better to cut a release at some point.14:41
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amotokithe second thing is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518954/ . haleyb proposed a patch to change the default protocol of a new sg rule.14:42
amotokiI would like to ask opinions for others.14:43
haleybyes, i had forgotten about thatone14:43
amotokithere is a discussion on backward-compat on OSC vs on neutron CLI.14:43
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haleybthere was a change merged to OSC that defaulted the protocol to 'tcp' and it was noticed as not the same as the neutron client14:44
haleybi was annoyed because noone from neutron was even asked to review it14:44
amotokiyes, the default value comes from nova sg rule implementation and OSC supports both14:44
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amotokiI will leave a comment after the meeting14:45
mlavalleso, provide feedback in the review14:45
haleybit is *almost* backwards-compatible in that if you specify a port range you must specify a protocol14:45
haleybdean has said he would allow it in OSC4 only14:46
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amotokithat is good point14:46
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amotokianyway feel free to leave comments/bugs if you feel odd around the migration to OSC14:47
amotokithe last thing is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1705755 raised by boden14:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1705755 in neutron "[RFE] Plugin support for API resource attribute extensions" [Wishlist,Triaged]14:48
amotokii wouldn't like to discuss the detail here. feedback would be appreciated.14:48
amotokiit is one of big gaps around the migration14:48
amotokithat's all from me14:49
mlavalleamotoki: it was discussed in the drivers meeting last Thursday14:49
mlavalleplease chack the logs14:49
amotokimlavalle: thanks. i haven't checked the log14:49
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amotokiwill check it soon14:49
mlavalleI will update the RFE itself today14:49
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amotokii think we can move on to the next topic if nothing else14:50
jlibosvaamotoki: thanks14:50
jlibosva#topic open discussion14:50
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jlibosvadoes anybody have a topic he'd like to discuss here?14:51
haleybone question14:51
jlibosvahaleyb: go ahead14:51
jlibosvaI see two topics at the wiki14:51
haleybok, mine isn't on the wiki14:51
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jlibosvahaleyb: so go ahead, we can discuss those after :)14:52
haleybamotoki: i know you cover the osc client, but how do we make sure neutronions are always added to network reviews?14:52
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haleybrelying on people seeing the review emails isn't enough14:53
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amotokihaleyb: honestly i am not sure what is a better way.14:53
haleybok, i was even looking through the repo looking for a doc but didn't see anything14:54
amotokii think there is a way to query which file(s) are included in a review.14:54
amotokiit might help us14:54
haleybyes, i'd be ok with receiving emails if they are networking ones14:55
amotokipreviously i checked networking guide reviews in openstakc-manuals by using "path:^doc/networking-guide/.*' in my gerrit dashboard14:55
haleybok, thanks, i'll try the same with osc14:55
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haleybjlibosva: back to you14:55
jlibosvalet's jump to those topics from wiki then14:56
hoangcx_Hi jlibosva, VPNaaS team is working on stadium inclusion, almost required criteria have been addressed/addressing. It needs to get attention from core reviewers in order to help it jump into the stadium in Queens.14:56
jlibosvahoangcx_: hi, you have one VPNaaS stadium inclusion request: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506012/14:56
jlibosvamlavalle: ^^ I think it will need PTL's blessing :)14:56
mlavalleyeap, I will look at it this week14:57
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hoangcx_jlibosva: I discussed with yamamoto and got suggestion to raise it here. Hopefully can get comments/decision from cores :)14:57
jlibosvahoangcx_: yes, thanks for bringing this up :)14:57
mlavallehoangcx_: I will look at it this week14:57
hoangcx_thanks a lot mlavalle jlibosva :)14:57
jlibosvabcafarel: next one is yours: "Should we use a single repo for all stadium split tempest plugins? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123814.html"14:57
jlibosvaI don't know answer to that question14:58
bcafarelthe topic should be short :) I'd just welcome some feedback (and decision) on the topic14:58
mlavallebcafarel: do you see any downsides to having one repo for tempest tests?14:58
jlibosvait would make sense to me to have test repo per project but that would create loots of new projects :)14:59
bcafarelmlavalle: no downside apart from the creation job14:59
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bcafarelbut as some other parts are in common repos, armax brought the question15:00
mlavalleI think we are short of people now in general so creating a lot of new projects will be difficult15:00
amotokiwe have tempest API test and we have a single place neutron-lib to have API defintions. it makes sense to have a single repo in this context15:00
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amotokibut this is only one aspect15:00
jlibosvamaybe we could discuss this on ML15:00
jlibosvawe're out of time15:00
bcafareloops indeed15:00
jlibosvathanks bcafarel15:00
jlibosvaand thanks everyone for showing up15:00
amotokiI completely missed that mail15:00
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ihrachys#startmeeting neutron_ci16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 21 16:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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ihrachyshi folks. giving 2 mins for others to join.16:01
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ihrachys#topic Actions from prev meeting16:02
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ihrachys"ihrachys to pull oslo folks into reviewing rootwrap patch"16:03
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ihrachysthe patch for oslo.rootwrap was merged16:03
ihrachysand new oslo.rootwrap released16:03
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ihrachysalso upper-constraints updated16:03
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ihrachysso at this point, gate (master) should have the fix16:03
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ihrachysif you still see this particular failure (either eventlet error in an agent, or commands receiving output of previous commands), please speak up16:04
jlibosvaoh, I saw this morning fullstack failure rate about 70%, so maybe that was it :)16:04
ihrachysI have backports for the fix for stable: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Id9d38832c67f2d81d382cda797a48fee943a27f116:04
ihrachysbut I wanted to give it some time to prove itself16:04
ihrachysjlibosva, yeah it went down somewhat16:04
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ihrachysat 65% right now16:05
slaweqhello, sorry for late16:05
ihrachysslaweq, hey!16:05
mlavalleslaweq: you in Paris?16:05
ihrachysslaweq, fyi the rootwrap issue should be fixed in master. if you see it, then the patch didn't help.16:06
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slaweqok, thx for info16:06
ihrachysnext is "mlavalle to track down "TypeError: None is not str() or unicode()!" error in dhcp agent fullstack tests"16:06
ihrachysI believe l3 team was going to look into it16:06
mlavallehaleyb proposed this fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520710/16:06
mlavallehaleyb: is this the right patch?16:07
mlavalleyes it is16:07
ihrachysdidn't know haleyb is mlavalle's sockpuppet account16:08
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ihrachyssorry, couldn't resist16:08
ihrachysso it's WIP, is it because you can't reproduce with new oslo?16:08
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haleybsorry, someone rang bell and dog went crazy16:10
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haleybihrachys: right, i don't see it in the logs, but haven't looked in logstash16:10
ihrachyshaleyb, note stable branches are still affected so you will need to filter them out16:11
ihrachysoh actually no, maybe posting the patch to stable will reveal it easier16:11
ihrachysbecause it still doesn't have the packages16:11
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haleybok, i can do that while i'm searching logstash16:13
ihrachysok those were all actions we had16:13
ihrachys#topic Grafana16:13
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ihrachysbefore we dive into data... why is it that gate coverage dashboard is empty?16:13
ihrachysprobably a name change?16:13
ihrachysfor the job16:13
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haleybihrachys: that can happen if it's never failed16:14
ihrachyshm ok I see16:15
ihrachysyeah the name in project-config seems to be correct16:16
haleybthe unit tests in the gate had that "No datapoints" until something in infra blew up16:16
ihrachysok. speaking of data...16:16
ihrachysas we already mentioned, fullstack went somewhat down, now at 65%16:17
ihrachysstill a long way to go but it's the right direction16:17
ihrachyswe sat at 100% for a while16:17
ihrachysscenarios are back at 100%, both flavors16:18
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ihrachysdvr-ha is at steady 30% and I suspect we don't make progress to make it voting16:18
jlibosvaregarding scenarios - I checked this morning and only consistently failing tests are now east-west fip tests16:19
jlibosvaI was tempted to use unstable_test decorator to see the stability of others :)16:19
haleybwe have not made any progress on that bug ^^ yet, will have to look at re-assigning16:20
ihrachysis it https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1717302 ?16:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1717302 in neutron "Tempest floatingip scenario tests failing on DVR Multinode setup with HA" [High,Confirmed]16:20
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ihrachysdoes it affect both flavors though? this one seems dvr/ha specific16:20
jlibosvaI checked multinode-dvr only16:21
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jlibosvaor you mean we have non-ha routers there?16:21
ihrachysyeah. I picked a random linuxbridge run but it failed with timeout: http://logs.openstack.org/04/492404/19/check/legacy-tempest-dsvm-neutron-scenario-linuxbridge/0decc9a/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-21_04_36_12_03894216:21
ihrachysso no per test logs16:21
ihrachysok here is a better run: http://logs.openstack.org/83/521683/3/check/legacy-tempest-dsvm-neutron-scenario-linuxbridge/46e952f/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:22
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ihrachysah right, linuxbridge is affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171971116:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1719711 in neutron "iptables failed to apply when binding a port with AGENT.debug_iptables_rules enabled" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)16:23
ihrachyshaleyb, no luck with that one?16:23
haleybihrachys: no, i have had other priorities, if anyone wants to pick up i can help once we can reproduce it better16:24
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ihrachyshaleyb, it reproduces in gate just fine. do you mean you couldn't reproduce locally?16:25
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haleybihrachys: right, i only saw it locally once16:25
ihrachysI see. maybe if you don't have time for it, unassign yourself so that others are aware it's free16:26
ihrachysas for floating ip bug, is it still in scope for l3 subteam to figure out the fix?16:27
ihrachysor we need someone else too16:27
mlavalleit is still in scope16:27
ihrachysok thanks16:28
ihrachyslet's have a look at fullstack now16:29
ihrachys#topic Fullstack16:29
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ihrachysexample failure: http://logs.openstack.org/71/520371/7/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/ad585a2/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:29
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ihrachysso connectivity failures seem to be because port hasn't transitioned to ACTIVE16:31
ihrachysI checked agent logs here: http://logs.openstack.org/71/520371/7/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/ad585a2/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestOvsConnectivitySameNetwork.test_connectivity_VXLAN,openflow-native_/ and I don't see any clear errors/traces though16:31
ihrachysalso not in neutron-server16:31
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jlibosvaI also wonder why the test_connectivity test wasn't skipped16:32
ihrachyswhy should it?16:32
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ihrachyshave we merged the decorator alredy?16:32
jlibosvawe haven't?16:32
jlibosvawait :)16:32
mlavalleI think we did16:32
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ihrachysyeah we did https://review.openstack.org/51466016:33
jlibosvaI need to investigate whether the decorator works with scenarios then16:33
ihrachys#action jlibosva to figure out why unstable_test didn't work for fullstack scenario case16:34
ihrachysanother possibility is it just doesn't work :)16:34
ihrachyswe don't have a test for it16:34
ihrachyswe should have some fake test that raises an Exception16:34
ihrachyswith the decorator applied16:35
ihrachysthat would prove it works16:35
ihrachysand we can then do same for scenarios16:35
slaweqbut I'm pretty sure I saw it was working16:35
slaweqe.g. here16:36
ihrachyscould it be that the output is included nevertheless16:37
ihrachysno it lists all 3 as failed: http://logs.openstack.org/71/520371/7/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/ad585a2/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-20_22_26_56_09610616:37
jlibosvano, this one http://logs.openstack.org/71/520371/7/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/ad585a2/logs/testr_results.html.gz lists 2 as skipped16:38
jlibosvajust one is failed ...16:38
fricklerdoes the decorator not work if the failure is in the class setup instead of the test itself?16:38
slaweqin example which I gave it's marked as skipped: http://logs.openstack.org/60/514660/4/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/587b7ff/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:38
jlibosvafrickler: yes, in class setup it won't work16:38
jlibosvayeah :)16:38
jlibosvait didn't even build the env16:39
ihrachyshuh ok good :)16:39
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ihrachysjlibosva, btw we banned the test case because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1728948 but seems like what we see is not related to this bug16:40
openstackLaunchpad bug 1728948 in neutron "fullstack: test_connectivity fails due to dhclient crash" [High,New] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar)16:40
ihrachysjlibosva, what's the plan? make it work for classes somehow?16:40
jlibosvaihrachys: no, I don't think the decorator should work for classes. If env is not build, is very severe and I don't think we should skip16:41
ihrachysok. we need to report a bug for the failure. anyone dare?16:42
jlibosvaI can invsetigate16:42
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ihrachysat least I don't see it in gate-failure list, maybe it's somewhere16:42
ihrachysjlibosva, thanks!16:42
ihrachys#action jlibosva to investigate / report a bug for env deployment failure in fullstack because of port down16:43
ihrachysthe other failure in the logs, test_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigkill, is not in setUp though16:43
ihrachysfailed in block_until_boot16:44
jlibosvacould be the dhclient crash?16:44
jlibosvaah, no. it's a port status to become active16:45
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ihrachysyeah. I think we had a bug reported for the test case failure before16:46
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ihrachysthis: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/167353116:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1673531 in neutron "fullstack test_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigkill(GRE and l2pop,openflow-native_ovsdb-cli) failure" [Undecided,Fix released]16:46
ihrachysI should reopen it16:46
ihrachys#action ihrachys to investigate latest https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1673531 failures16:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1673531 in neutron "fullstack test_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigkill(GRE and l2pop,openflow-native_ovsdb-cli) failure" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka)16:47
ihrachysand finally, we have test_dscp_marking_packets(openflow-native) failing there16:48
ihrachyswith: neutron.tests.common.agents.l2_extensions.TcpdumpException: No packets marked with DSCP = 16 received from to
ihrachysI would need to look into what the test case does but16:49
ihrachysonly ovs agents are running there, and neutron-server has this:16:50
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slaweqI can try to look at this one it You want16:50
ihrachysby the looks of it, it's as expected that no l3 / dhcp is there16:51
ihrachysslaweq, yes please. I think we should start with reporting a bug so that we can capture details there.16:51
slaweqok, I will report bug for it16:51
jlibosvacould it be that it got notification from ovsdb monitor? :)16:51
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ihrachys#action slaweq to investigate / report a bug for test_dscp_marking_packets fullstack failure16:51
ihrachysjlibosva, what do you mean16:52
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jlibosvaihrachys: nothing, brain fart. ignore me16:52
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ihrachysslaweq, irrespective of what actually fails, I think it may also make sense to look if we can suppress those warnings. not having l3 / dhcp is, in theory, a reasonable setup (well, maybe not for dhcp because enable_dhcp is not implemented with a service plugin, but surely you can have a setup without router service plugin)16:53
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ihrachys#topic Tempest plugin16:54
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ihrachysas you know, we transition to a new repo for tempest tests16:54
ihrachysetherpad tracking patches: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-tempest-plugin-job-move16:55
ihrachystl;dr we remove jobs from neutron, move them to new repo, inherit them from neutron repo16:55
ihrachysI still haven't heard about what we do for stable branches16:55
ihrachysthere are some patches attempting removal of legacy jobs16:56
ihrachysbut they are still to be used for stable16:56
ihrachysif you have answer please speak up16:56
mlavalleI did some research on that16:56
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mlavallePlease look at https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/zuulv3.html#stable-branches16:56
mlavalleThe summary is that each stable branch has to have its own .zuul.yaml and playbooks16:57
ihrachysok. so we need to move legacy  jobs into stable16:57
ihrachysbefore removing them in infra rpeos16:57
mlavalleI also had a conversation with the infra team and they confirmed16:57
ihrachyscan we in the meantime filter legacy out for master as we did with zuulv2?16:58
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mlavalleI think we can do that16:58
ihrachysfinal thing I'd like to mention is that apparently there was a breakage in new tempest repo by one of new scenarios16:59
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ihrachysbecause create_server changed its signature somewhat16:59
ihrachysso the fix is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521919/ please review16:59
ihrachysassuming it helps. if not, we have a revert here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521898/16:59
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ihrachysthough I think we can live without a revert for some time because it's not voting anywhere.16:59
ihrachys(we don't even have those jobs anywhere right now because we cleaned them up in neutron repo already)17:00
ihrachysanyway, we are out of time17:00
ihrachysthanks everyone17:00
jlibosvawe must get some patches to run scenario tests on plugin repo first17:00
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jlibosvathx, bye17:00
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ihrachysjlibosva, ++17:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-11-21-16.00.log.html17:00
slaweqFYI: I just reported bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/173364917:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1733649 in neutron "fullstack neutron.tests.fullstack.test_qos.TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs.test_dscp_marking_packets(openflow-native) failure" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)17:00
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone18:00
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lbragstadping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar18:00
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lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting18:00
lbragstadagenda ^18:00
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lbragstadi dropped the ball on the meeting last week - sorry about that18:00
lbragstadwe don't have a whole lot on the schedule today - so we'll give it a few minutes for folks to trickle in18:01
lamtDST was rough esp after travel from the summit18:01
lbragstadyeah - between travel, jet lag, dst, and parsing missed work, i'm not sure when i really recovered18:02
hrybackihave you fully recovered? ;)18:03
lbragstadlol that's the real question18:03
hrybackiRH Tower has been awfully quiet this and last week as well18:03
lbragstadyeah - i've noticed that, too18:03
lbragstadwhich wasn't terrible because it was a nice opportunity to catch up on this and provide recaps18:03
lbragstad#topic specification reviews18:04
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lbragstad#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124727.html18:04
lbragstadi took a look at our roadmap and what we have let to merge for specs that we've committed to18:04
lbragstadthere are a couple outstanding ones that we need to get updated and reviewed within the next couple weeks18:04
lbragstadany extra eyes on those would be awesome18:05
lbragstadi said this in the email, too.. but if anyone is looking to tag-team something, feel free to speak up18:05
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lbragstad#topic summit recaps18:05
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lbragstadcmurphy: just published #link http://www.gazlene.net/sydney-summit.html18:06
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hrybackihave not read her recap yet18:06
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lbragstadand i have my take #link https://www.lbragstad.com/blog/openstack-summit-sydney-recap18:06
lbragstadhas anyone else published a keystone recap of any kind?18:06
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lbragstadif someone has, let me know and i'll advertise it accordingly18:07
knikollao/ (sorry for being late)18:07
lbragstaddoes anyone have comments or questions on the recaps?18:07
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hrybackinot atm18:08
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lbragstadcool - well if you notice anything inconsistent in mine, ping me18:08
lbragstad#topic office hours schedule18:08
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lbragstadwhen i set this up - i don't think i actually set it for dst18:08
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lbragstadi'm curious if folks want to move office hours to be right after the meeting or leave it where it is (meaning we have an hour between the keystone meeting and the start of office hours)18:09
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KwozyManlbragstad: For us (Central Europe), it would be better to have it one hour earlier.18:10
hrybackiDo we have normal meetings follow US DST in OpenStack?18:10
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lbragstadKwozyMan: as in moving office hours to be right after the keystone meeting, regardless of dst?18:10
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kmalloclbragstad: i thought that was already the case18:11
lbragstadto my knowledge, openstack meetings are held in UTC, so they are subject to DST changes18:11
kmallocwhy are office ours not in UTC then?18:11
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kmallocand yes, meetings are in UTC18:11
lbragstadkmalloc: it was supposed to be (but i don't think i scheduled it that way)18:11
KwozyManlbragstad: just telling you how it would be best here18:11
lbragstadKwozyMan: ack - that makes sense, i suppose it keeps things late for you18:12
lbragstadif you're in central europe18:12
josecastroleonme too18:12
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lbragstadok - cool18:12
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lbragstadis anyone actually in favor of an hour gap between the team meeting and office hours?18:12
lbragstad#action keep office hours immediately after the keystone meeting - subject to DST changes18:14
lbragstad#topic open discussion18:14
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lbragstadalrighty - floor is open18:14
hrybackilbragstad: if there existed a set of policy files for various services that created what amounts to a read-only-role would upstream have interest in pulling those in?18:16
hrybackipolicy-in-code stuff aside18:16
lbragstadi think that would certainly be useful18:16
lbragstadsince there is a need for it and that's been proven by several operators18:16
lbragstadi'm not sure we'd keep the policy files in tree (since we're moving away from that model)18:17
* hrybacki nods18:17
lbragstadbut documenting them somehow somewhere would be good18:17
lbragstadalong with a document that explains the rationale (which would need to be updated with the system-scoping work)18:17
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hrybackiack. okay cool, I'll brainstorm more with you offline?18:18
lbragstadyeah - i think that would be useful as a stop-gap until we fix things18:18
* hrybacki nods18:18
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josecastroleonlbragstad: we have been reviewing our stuff once back from the summit18:19
josecastroleonwe have quite some things we can submit18:20
josecastroleonon the LDAP part18:20
lbragstadhas any of it been recorded publicly?18:21
lbragstad(bug reports, specs, blueprints, etc...)?18:21
josecastroleonnot yet but they will be soon, right? KwozyMan18:21
lbragstadKwozyMan: you must be at CERN?18:22
KwozyManlbragstad: I am18:22
lbragstadKwozyMan: awesome - happy to have you here18:22
KwozyManthank you, hope to be able to help18:22
lbragstaddon't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions18:23
KwozyManalright, I'll start lurking on #keystone18:23
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lbragstadgood deal - you should be able to find all of us in #openstack-keystone18:23
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lbragstaddoes anyone have anything else?18:24
josecastroleonquick one, have you discussed already about the project id configured by the operator?18:24
josecastroleonthe one that came on the summit from orange18:24
lbragstadjosecastroleon: i just came across that bug report this morning18:24
lbragstadoh - wait, nevermind18:25
lbragstadi was thinking of a separate bug18:25
lbragstadi spent about a day digging last week18:25
lbragstadi went through all keystone source back to diablo to try and figure out the paper trail there18:25
lbragstadbut since kmalloc is here, he's pretty much the project historian at this point ;)18:26
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lbragstadjosecastroleon: i attempted to document the new requirements in the recap i wrote18:27
lbragstad#link https://www.lbragstad.com/blog/openstack-summit-sydney-recap18:27
lbragstadspecifically in the Other Feedback section18:27
lbragstad(kmalloc can probably correct me here)18:27
lbragstadi thought we came out of that session with two new requirements that I don't think we were aware of the first time we discussed this ability of the API18:28
lbragstad1.) Authorization data must not come from the source of authentication18:28
lbragstad2.) Data replication at the database layer might not be possible due to data security issues between countries18:28
lbragstadwhen #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241346/ and #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323499/ were proposed, we thought it was a way to get around using federation18:31
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josecastroleonfrom the comments on the reviews I think so too18:31
lbragstador a way to mitigate database replication because of poor performance18:31
lbragstadin talking to operators at the summit - i'm not sure the poor performance was a concern, that actually didn't sound like the problem18:32
lbragstadthe problem, as I interpreted it, was that there are laws in place that prevent you from being able to replicate traffic across borders18:32
lbragstadjosecastroleon: is that how you understood it, too?18:33
josecastroleonon a telco, that's probably their main constraint18:34
josecastroleonon our side, it was more due to the lack of properties on the projects at the time we deploy our cloud18:34
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lbragstadthat feature was only for specifying a specific project ID at project creation time, right?18:35
lbragstadso you'd use it to make sure the projects in other data centers have the same IDs?18:37
lbragstadas the legacy projects you already have in your deployment?18:37
josecastroleonon our case, it's a bit different18:38
josecastroleonthere is an lifecycle management tool that creates the projects18:38
josecastroleonso when a user leaves the resources that he is managing are not orphaned/lost18:39
josecastroleonthis entity identifies the resources by uuids18:40
josecastroleonand as the projects at that moment did not have properties18:40
josecastroleonwe choose the id for storing it18:40
josecastroleonon our side we can try to move to a property, but the existing projects will be tough to move18:41
josecastroleonproject ids18:41
lbragstadbecause you have to change the project id18:41
josecastroleonat some point yes18:42
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lbragstadok - so maybe what we can do it repropose one of those specifications with the requirements and use cases updated18:43
lbragstadi think that would help push the discussion forward18:43
KwozyManlbragstad: any particular point against implementing this?18:43
lbragstadfor that specific case, i'm not sure... the answer that was documented in the specification eluded to improving federation of building a db replication workaround into keystone's api18:44
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lbragstad^ that was the main concern during the original proposal18:45
lbragstadbecause people wanted to have separate keystone's in each region but each region is part of the same deployment18:45
lbragstadwhich was about the extent of the requirement as I remember18:46
lbragstadand to several people, that just sounded like federation18:46
josecastroleonour use case is a bit simpler18:46
josecastroleonsingle data center18:46
josecastroleonsingle federation :D18:46
KwozyManOk, then I'll have to read up on it. It's not clear why exactly specifying id at creation time is wrong.18:47
lbragstadi think it would be useful to repropose the spec and document those use cases and requirements18:47
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josecastroleonfair enough18:47
KwozyMansounds good18:47
lbragstadKwozyMan: i don't think anyone said it was wrong as much as we wanted to improve federation usability instead18:48
lbragstadbut i don't think all of these requirements were involved the first time we discussed this18:48
KwozyManlbragstad: sorry, just trying to understand. there will be a lot of questions from me, I'm afraid :(18:48
lbragstadno worries!18:49
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lbragstadbut we've talked about this a few times18:49
lbragstadso i think it would be a good idea to document things in a specification with the new requirements18:49
lbragstadthen we can iterate on it in review18:50
KwozyManyes, that's a good idea18:50
lbragstad(which is documenting)18:50
lbragstadjosecastroleon: KwozyMan if either of you are interested in that - i think we could just re-use one of the existing specs18:51
lbragstad(keeping the context)18:51
KwozyManlbragstad: send it over18:51
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323499/18:52
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241346/18:52
lbragstadthe second one was the first formal proposal18:52
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KwozyManroger that18:53
lbragstadKwozyMan: there is a lot of context in there too from other reviewers18:53
lbragstadso that might help piece things together18:53
lbragstador paint a more complete picture than what I described here18:54
lbragstadanyone have anything else?18:54
KwozyMansounds good18:55
lbragstadotherwise we can get a few minutes back before office hours (for those attending)18:55
kmallocoh sorry stepped away for a sec18:55
kmallocsomeone called me a historian?18:55
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lbragstadkmalloc: yeah - we can spill over into -keystone, too18:55
lbragstadkmalloc: i think you're opinion on that ^ discussion would be really helpful18:56
kmallocsure. lets catch up in -keystone18:56
kmallocand i can weigh in18:56
lbragstadkmalloc: awesome - josecastroleon KwozyMan you free to continue this discussion, too?18:56
kmallocoh that one.18:56
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KwozyManlbragstad: for some limited time, I would like to get home at some point18:57
kmalloccan i pretend i was never here now ;)18:57
kmalloci can explain the real concerns with that proposal and why it got squashed18:57
lbragstadok - let's continue in -keystone then18:57
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jeblairi'm on time for this meeting today!19:00
clarkbhello infra19:00
clarkbI count three, anyone else here?19:00
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thecountha ha ha19:01
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clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 21 19:01:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:01
clarkb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:01
clarkbThere was a bit of stuff left over from last meeting that I took the liberty of clearing off the agenda. Feel free to reraise items as we go through if I shoudn't have removed something19:02
clarkb#topic Announcements19:02
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clarkbThis week is a major holiday in the US so expect those of us living there to be AFK starting thursday19:03
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clarkbI will be picking up a turkey this afternoon so the fun starts early too19:03
mguiney(/me lurk)19:03
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clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:04
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-31-19.01.txt Minutes from last meeting19:04
clarkber thats the wrong link19:04
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-31-19.01.txt19:04
clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-11-14-19.00.txt19:04
clarkbThe only action there is for ianw to confirm backups are working properly. I saw report that this had been confirmed yseterday so \o/19:05
clarkbfungi: you've also had an action to document secrets backup policy. Has that change been pushed/merged?19:05
fungistrangely, it looks like my pending action item got omitted19:05
fungibut yeah19:05
fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/520181 Add a section on secrets to the migration guide19:05
fungineeds reviewers19:06
jeblairoh cool thanks!19:06
fungithere was nowhere good to add the note about it, so i added a section to give us somewhere19:06
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jeblairthat looks great; when it merges, we should send a note to the dev list pointing people at it, for the benefit of those who have already read the doc19:08
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fungidunno if that was too much or not enough detail about the feature, but felt it needed some context at least19:08
clarkbThere aren't any specs that need review/approval that I've seen19:08
clarkbso going to skip specs approval19:08
clarkb#topic Priority Efforts19:08
clarkbdid we lose the bot?19:08
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clarkbthere it goes maybe I'm lagging19:08
jeblairclarkb: you seem laggy to me19:09
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* frickler is seeing lagging, too19:09
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clarkb#topic Zuul v319:09
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fungiahh, yeah, i had an entry for this19:09
clarkbFungi asks if it is time to remove jenkins from the Gerrit CI group. ++ from me19:09
fungiwe've gotten a few people showing up in irc asking us to delete stale -1 verify votes from "jenkins"19:09
AJaegerlet's do it19:10
fungibecause people aren't reviewing their changes19:10
pabelangerseems sane19:10
fungiand we did at one point before the rollout indicate that we would at some point remove jenkins from the group granting it verify voting permission19:10
fungibut didn't want to do it immediately because we were relying on zuul v3 trusting the verify votes left by v2 so people wouldn't need to recheck everything19:11
clarkbright so the concern is that removing the account from the group that is allowed to -1/-2 verify will effectively remove those votes from the UI19:11
fungifigured now was a good time to revisit and see if we think we're just down to a long-tail of relatively inactive changes where doing a recheck isn't too onerous19:11
mordredwell - the votes would only go away if we deleted the user, right?19:11
mordredrather than deleting the user from the group19:12
jeblairmordred: right, but they won't be visible19:12
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fungimordred: gerrit "hides" the votes on active changes if you lose permission for them19:12
mordredwow. what a GREAT idea19:12
jeblairthis of course will hide all the verified votes ever19:12
fungiso you can still see them in the db, but won't in the webui or api19:12
fungijeblair: it only seems to do it for open changes. merged and abandoned were unaffected in the past by it19:13
clarkbya so anything with a jenkins +1 will need to get zuul +1'd before it can gate19:13
jeblairfungi: oh huh19:13
jeblairthat's less crazy19:13
clarkbI think its been long enough that we can make that jump now19:13
jeblairi agree, i'm in favor19:13
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fungiright. if i add myself to project bootstrappers, +2 verify and submit a change, then remove myself from that group, the verify +2 lingers on the merged change19:13
mordredyah. I think our stale check would be in effect by now anyway19:13
AJaegerlet's send an email to the mailing list about this19:13
AJaeger(as a FYI - we've just done this)19:14
fungii'll write up an announcement19:14
jeblairmordred: do we still have that?19:14
jeblairstale check19:14
mordredjeblair: oh - do we not?19:14
clarkbI think we got rid of it19:14
fungiwe do not do stale result checking19:14
AJaegermordred: ages ago...19:14
mordredah. well, silly me19:14
jeblairyeah seems to be gone19:14
fungiright, it's been a couple of years i think? my sense of time is pretty terrible any more though19:14
mordredin any case, I think it's long enough that requiring a new +1 from zuul shouldn't be a super large burden19:14
jeblairif i can slip in a late addition to the topic...19:16
jeblairpabelanger proposed removing infra-check: https://review.openstack.org/52188019:16
clarkbI thnik we have plenty of time19:16
jeblairi think it's time for that as well19:16
clarkbjeblair: ++19:16
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fungii did not approve in case others were still reviewing19:17
pabelangerand zuul-env from DIB: https://review.openstack.org/514483/19:17
jeblairaiui the shim should handle the removal of that transparently, but we should still be prepared to keep an eye out and roll back images if something about that fails19:18
clarkbfor ^ I think just need to approve it when we are ready to field questions from anyone that may have used the zuul env in weird ways (lets hope there are zero cases of that :) )19:18
clarkbjeblair: yup that was my undersatnding as well19:18
mordredclarkb: wait - you're saying that people may have used a thing in a ways we didn't intend or forsee? I find that hard to imagine ...19:19
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fungii suppose we could codesearch for /usr/zuul-env or whatever the path is19:20
AJaegermordred: I expect you didn't find any such cases while working on releasenotes and sphinx ;)19:20
clarkbdo we want to have a more explicit list of transition cleanup changes somewhere that we can work through?19:20
fungicodesearch says manila is doing that19:20
clarkbI know we had an etherpad for the VM instances maybe tack something onto there19:20
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fungiand oslo.messaging19:21
* AJaeger approves the infra-check removal in a minute or two19:21
fungiand tooz...19:21
fungithere's a ton19:21
clarkbanother thing was moving the jenkins user stuff into its own element that third party CIs could use that we wouldn't19:21
fungiahh, because they copied legacy playbooks in-repo19:21
clarkbpabelanger: ^ do you know if the jenkins stuff has changes yet (or maybe is done?)19:21
mordredAJaeger: I'm certainly not STILL finding them19:21
pabelangerclarkb: yah, I have a change up, but need to rework it still into own element19:21
pabelangerI can finish that today19:22
fungiso anyway, according to codesearch there's going to be a ton of cross-project work involved in removing use of zuul-env from copies of legacy jobs19:22
fungilikely also copied to stable branches codesearch isn't indexing19:22
clarkbfungi: probably worth an email to the dev list with a link to the change where we want to delete it19:23
clarkbsimilar to the run: foo -> run: foo.yaml email19:23
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pabelangerhttps://review.openstack.org/521937/ could use a final +3 too, removes static wheel-builder slaves19:23
pabelangeronce merged, i can delete servers and push on other static slave nodes19:23
mordredwait - removing zuul-env from the images won't break people using /usr/zuul-env/bin/zuul-cloner - that's where we put zuul-cloner in the legacy base job19:24
pabelangermordred: right19:24
clarkbits only if they use any other content of the venv19:24
mordredso like the manila jobs thatuse it shouldn't be broken, they're in legacy jobs19:24
pabelangerit will break once we remove zuul-cloner from base job, but that is another topic for another day19:24
pabelangerinto base-legacy19:25
mordredit's already in base-legacy, no?19:25
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pabelangeryes, but we haven't removed it from base yet19:25
jeblairit's in both?19:25
mordredthis: /usr.zuul-env(!?.bin.zuul-cloner)/ should be a regex for finding zuul-env uses other than zuul-cloner yeah?19:25
pabelangerjeblair: yes19:25
jeblairon purpose?19:26
pabelangersee https://review.openstack.org/513506/ for history19:26
clarkbmordred: that looks right19:26
pabelangerI think once we remove zuul-env in DIB, we can circle back to 51350619:27
mordredclarkb: ok. according to that there are no uses of zuul-env that are not zuul-cloner19:27
jeblairi agree the way to proceed is to remove it from images, then 51350619:28
fungioh, got it, so if they use zuul-cloner that's fine since we'll still put something executable at /usr/zuul-env/bin/zuul-cloner for the foreseeable future?19:28
jeblairif 506 breaks people, it will be easy to revert19:28
clarkbfungi: yes19:28
clarkbfungi: there just won't be a virtualenv there around it19:28
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clarkband to double check zuul-cloner shim doesn't rely on the virtualenv python or any libs there right?19:29
mordredI agree with jeblair - I think 506 is good to land- there really shouldn't be jobs using zuul-cloner and not parented on legacy-base and if there are we need to find them19:29
clarkbit runs from system python?19:29
mordredclarkb: that's right19:29
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jeblairoh, i'm assuming we put the shim in base because just in case someone ended up (even accidentally as dmsimard says) using the cloner, we wanted them using the shim and not v219:29
fungithat's less scary then. i thought we were talking about _also_ removing the zuul-cloner shim19:29
mordredclarkb: it'snot installed in the venv - it's just copied there19:29
jeblairto summarize:19:29
jeblair1) remove zuul-env from images now.   if that doesn't blow up:19:29
pabelangermordred: ++19:30
jeblair2) remove zuul-cloner shim from base immediately afterwords.19:30
jeblair3) if that blows up, fix those jobs, or temporarily revert 506 to add zuul-cloner shim back.  repeat as necessary.19:30
mordredjeblair: ++19:30
jeblair4) in the distant future, remove legacy-base (which will continue to install the shim as long as it exists)19:30
fungiyeah, that seems sane19:31
mordredI have verified that fetch-zuul-cloner will create the directory if it's not there19:31
clarkbsounds like a plan19:31
mordredso it should still work on images without the venv19:31
jeblairlemme info this19:31
jeblair#info plan for removing zuul-cloner shim:19:31
jeblair#info 1) remove zuul-env from images now.   if that doesn't blow up:19:31
jeblair#info 2) remove zuul-cloner shim from base immediately afterwords.19:31
jeblair#info 3) if that blows up, fix those jobs, or temporarily revert 506 to add zuul-cloner shim back.  repeat as necessary.19:31
jeblair#info 4) in the distant future, remove legacy-base (which will continue to install the shim as long as it exists)19:32
AJaegerstep 1 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51448319:32
AJaegerstep 2 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51448319:32
AJaegerjeblair: plan is fine. Who wants to +A 514483?19:32
clarkb#info step 1 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51448319:32
clarkb#info step 2 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513506/19:33
pabelangerI can watch step1 now19:33
clarkbok, anything else related to zuulv3?19:34
pabelangerit is awesome19:34
clarkb#topic General Topics19:34
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clarkbThis is where I claered out a whole bunch of stuff from the agenda that appeared stale so speak up if I did so and shouldn't have19:35
mordredpabelanger: I +A'd 51448319:35
pabelangermordred: ack19:35
clarkbWorth mentioning again that ianw reported that the new backup server is functioning and has the old backups servers volumes attached to it19:35
clarkbthank you ianw for getting that sorted out19:35
fungithanks a ton ian! that's been on our backlog longer than i want to think about19:36
clarkbwe should make a note to remove and delete the old volumes after an appropriate amount of time. Maybe in the new year?19:36
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clarkbthat gives us just over a month or so of keeping old backups around19:37
fungiyeah, that seems long enough to me19:37
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fungiwe've also never figured out how to rotate backups so we don't eat disk space indefinitely. i wonder if that's a good model (switch volumes, then evenrually remove old volumes)19:38
clarkbfungi: so rather than adding up to one 3TB filesystem just swap out an old 1TB fs for a new 1TB fs?19:38
clarkb(should check actual usage before committing to a specific size but I like the idea of rotating rather than appending)19:39
fungiif memory serves, bup doesn't have a way to age out data, so we do incur a bunch of overhead re-priming the new volume under that model19:39
clarkbfungi: correct19:39
fungias we have to transfer a full copy of everything rather than just differential/incremental changes19:40
fungii think it comes down to a question of how much we're backing up, and how much retention we want19:40
clarkbianw may also have thoughts having just done it19:41
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fungiand how much disk we can allocate, i guess19:41
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fungithough this might also be a good thing to try moving to vexxhost?19:41
clarkbya ceph may make this substantially easier19:41
clarkb(not sure)19:42
fungiif nothing else, it's been suggested that getting available block devices of substantial size is much easier for us there than in rax19:42
fungilike, could get a 25tb block device rather than having to stitch together a slew of 1tb volumes with lvm or raid019:43
clarkbwe may also consider a different tool like borg, which has support for append only and not append only backups. Not sure if you can switch between them in a way that makes sense given the reasons we have append only backups in the first place19:43
clarkbbut thats likely significantly more worjk19:44
clarkbThe other general item I wanted to bring up quickly was we are mostly keeping up with the logstash job queue at this point. its been steady around 130-150k jobs for a couple days now and the worker processes aren't crashing \o/19:45
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clarkbI'd like to not add any significant load to that system (new files to index) until after the holiday as I'd like to see if it catches up and drives to zero with the expected drop in job activity during the holiday19:46
clarkbif it does that then I think we can slowly add things back in and see how we do19:46
AJaegerclarkb: https://review.openstack.org/520171 adds one file19:46
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AJaegerclarkb: do you want to WIP? ^19:46
clarkbAJaeger: ya I can WIP it19:46
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fungisounds like a fine plan19:48
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clarkb#topic Open Discussion19:48
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pabelangerI had 2 things, first, what do people think about a virtual sprint before or after jan 1 for control plane upgrades (xenial)19:49
* clarkb pulls up a calendar19:49
pabelanger2nd, could have been in zuulv3 topic, I'd like to upgrade / migration nodepool-builders to feature/zuulv3 branch to build up python3 and new nodepool syntax, we've been trying to add new images and it is confusing to contributors19:50
mordredpabelanger: ++ to 2nd thing for sure19:50
fungii should be free of visiting family around that week, if all goes well19:51
pabelangerfor #1, https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html, r-11 or r-10 or r-4 look clear on release side of things19:51
clarkbr-10 and r-8 look good to me19:51
pabelangeryah, I could do either myself19:52
mordredr-10 and r-11 look good to me19:52
clarkbI think a matrix of availability etherpad/ethercalc thing may work best since everyone is going to have different holiday plans/travel/etc19:52
mordredI cannot do R-819:52
clarkbbut ya I like the idea of focusing on that when things get quiet around here19:52
fungiyeah, r-10 and r-8 are currently clear on my calendar too19:53
pabelangerokay, I'll compose and send that out ML today. See when people are free and what they want to work on19:53
jeblairwe should totally do it on jan 1 when we're all still sloshed19:53
clarkbsounds good19:53
clarkbjeblair: hahahaha19:53
clarkb"who needs this server? NOT US"19:53
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pabelangerI'd paid to see jeblair sloshed19:53
fungijeblair: i can always make a point of getting sloshed regardless of the week19:53
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clarkbpabelanger: for the second thing, does it make sense to just merge v3 into master on nodepool at this point?19:54
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pabelangerclarkb: maybe jeblair or mordred can answer that19:55
clarkbthen the install will update automagically to the new version? we just have ot update the config in sync right?19:55
jeblairtbf, we could probably merge v3 to master on zuul too19:55
pabelangerclarkb: we'd need to update puppet for python3 support, but yat19:55
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clarkbI'm thinking that may be the best approach as it solves the underlying issue of having the two branches19:55
clarkbits more work but gets us into a better state I think then we just go back to dev on master19:56
pabelangeryah, if we want to have that discussion, sure19:56
* mordred is in favor of merging back to master19:56
mordredon both19:56
jeblairit might be best to go ahead and make a plan to tell third-parties to freeze anything they need, then start updating the puppet modules and merge the branches in19:56
mordredwe've made recentish tags on both that 3rd parties can use, yeah?19:57
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jeblairyeah, i think we need a plan for puppet modules though19:57
clarkbwe have v3 flags on the puppet modules today19:57
clarkbwe could invert it?19:57
jeblairmaybe someone could work through all the steps for that19:57
clarkbso that v3 is default and if you are deploying v2 then set the flag?19:57
jeblairclarkb: yeah, v2 + v2 release tag could be inputs to the puppet module to get a v2 system19:58
jeblairand defaults could all be v319:58
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dmsimardtotally missed out on the entire meeting, I had a topic but I guess we're out of time ? :/19:58
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fungiyou have half a minute ;)19:59
clarkbalso I'm sure we'll mostly be around in -infra after the meeting19:59
dmsimardDon't want to overlap, I'll bring it up in #openstack-infra yeah19:59
jeblairthough i will be stuffing my face with a fried chicken sandwich19:59
clarkbnow i want one19:59
clarkbthanks everyone!20:00
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