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| zhiyuan_ | hi | 00:57 |
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| Yipei_ | hi | 00:58 |
| RonghUI | hi | 00:58 |
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| song | hi | 00:59 |
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| dongfeng | hi | 01:00 |
| zhiyuan_ | let's start our meeting | 01:00 |
| zhiyuan_ | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 29 01:00:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhiyuan_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:00 |
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| zhiyuan_ | thanks for yipei and xiaohan's hard work, we have merged the patches for lb and qos feature | 01:01 |
| song | you are welcome! | 01:02 |
| song | xiaohan will come a little later! | 01:02 |
| zhiyuan_ | for qos, another patch for the document of qos is needed | 01:02 |
| Yipei_ | you are welcome, zhiyuan :) | 01:02 |
| zhiyuan_ | i think it could be part2 | 01:03 |
| RonghUI | the document for qos will finish ASAP | 01:03 |
| zhiyuan_ | great, it will be better if we can finish in queens-2 | 01:03 |
| song | yes I agree with RonghUI | 01:04 |
| zhiyuan_ | it's around Dec 4th to Dec 8th | 01:04 |
| zhiyuan_ | the release day | 01:04 |
| song | that means we have one week to finish the qos doc? | 01:06 |
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| zhiyuan_ | see if we can finish it in one week, otherwise we put it in queens-3 | 01:07 |
| song | that is all right. | 01:08 |
| zhiyuan_ | and for lb, yipei, have you contacted with the octavia team about the auto installation of tricircle with octavia? | 01:09 |
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| Yipei_ | not yet, do we need to solve the gateway issue first? or contact octavia team now? | 01:10 |
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| zhiyuan_ | gateway issue is not that easy, in our design, the gateway ip in central neutron and local neutron will always be different | 01:13 |
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| Yipei_ | ok, so i will contact the team this week | 01:14 |
| zhiyuan_ | thanks yipei | 01:15 |
| zhiyuan_ | then what about the "distinguish request source" feature? | 01:15 |
| zhiyuan_ | the modification of plugin.sh is needed to enable that filter automatically | 01:16 |
| xuzhuang | yeah | 01:16 |
| xuzhuang | i try to modify plugin.sh | 01:17 |
| song | Is it also need a test case or spec for it? | 01:17 |
| song | I need this patch in my BP. | 01:17 |
| song | but i do not know how use it ? | 01:18 |
| zhiyuan_ | song, are you working on the "network deletion reliability" feature? | 01:18 |
| song | yes | 01:18 |
| song | I seed a email to xuzhuang last day. | 01:19 |
| song | to ask how to use this feature. | 01:19 |
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| zhiyuan_ | it's easy to see how it works from the code, the filter will fill the USER_AGENT field in the context object, so you can check where the request is from by checking the USER_AGENT field in plugin | 01:21 |
| xuzhuang | i have recieved the mail, i will give a responce quickly. And to zhiyuan i want do the feature of deleting security group | 01:21 |
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| zhiyuan_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518421 the implementation | 01:22 |
| joehuang | hi | 01:22 |
| zhiyuan_ | hi joe | 01:22 |
| song | to zhiyuan xuzhuang thank you! | 01:23 |
| zhiyuan_ | we are talking about the "distinguish request resource" and "resource deletion reliability" features | 01:23 |
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| zhiyuan_ | xuzhuang, i think you can discuss with song offline to see how you can co-work. in my opinion, song will finish a framework for deletion reliability and take network as an example, xuzhuang can continue to finish the security group part based on the framework | 01:25 |
| song | I agree with zhiyuan about it. | 01:25 |
| xuzhuang | ok | 01:26 |
| RonghUI | so for the network deletion, the database table that we may add includes four parameter: top_id，bottom_id，pod_id，resource_type is that enough? | 01:26 |
| zhiyuan_ | ronghui, you can discuss how those fields are used in your spec, so we can see if all the fields are needed, or whether we lack some fields | 01:27 |
| song | to xuzhuang you can add my wechat, to zhiyuan i have send a request to add wechat for you last day :) | 01:28 |
| RonghUI | to zhiyuan, ok | 01:28 |
| xuzhuang | to song, ok | 01:29 |
| zhiyuan_ | oh, it's you! | 01:29 |
| joehuang | I found that several patches have been merged, great progress | 01:30 |
| song | yeah.haha! | 01:30 |
| song | great! and our team xiaohan have finished the qos. is there any other bp for him? | 01:32 |
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| zhiyuan_ | there is a bug that can be fixed | 01:33 |
| zhiyuan_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tricircle/+bug/1701508 | 01:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1701508 in Tricircle "port not deleted in original region" [Undecided,New] | 01:34 |
| song | good! | 01:34 |
| zxh | good! | 01:34 |
| zhiyuan_ | let me describe this bug a bit more | 01:35 |
| song | welcome. | 01:36 |
| zhiyuan_ | to reproduce this bug, we create a port via central neutron, then boot a VM with this port in region1, then delete this VM. Here, though VM is deleted from region1, the port in region1 is still there | 01:36 |
| zhiyuan_ | next, we boot a VM with this port in region2, the result is that both region1 and region2 have that port | 01:36 |
| song | oh that sounds we should release the port in region1 after delete the vm in region1. | 01:38 |
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| zhiyuan_ | currently we will delete both ports in region1 and region2 when port in central neutron is deleted | 01:39 |
| RonghUI | or to delete the port in region1 | 01:39 |
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| zhiyuan_ | but to fix this bug, we need a mechanism to delete the port in region after the VM is removed, OR after the port is used in another region | 01:40 |
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| RonghUI | when VM in region is deleting, can we do the same operation to the port in region? | 01:42 |
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| zhiyuan_ | we need some way to trigger the deletion of port | 01:44 |
| zxh | nova need to do something? | 01:46 |
| zhiyuan_ | no, we cannot touch nova. nova will not delete the port if the port is not created by nova | 01:47 |
| zhiyuan_ | in our case, we create a port before booting a VM, so nova will not delete the port | 01:47 |
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| RonghUI | is this some problem for qos ? | 01:53 |
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| zhiyuan_ | ?? no, only document is needed for qos | 01:54 |
| RonghUI | oh yes if the port is deletion the qos which is bound with this port is deletion too | 01:55 |
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| zhiyuan_ | yes, so no need to modify the qos part | 01:57 |
| zhiyuan_ | i think time's up, if you find out the solution, please submit a patch to fix the bug | 01:58 |
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| RonghUI | got it | 01:58 |
| zhiyuan_ | and thanks for attending the meeting | 01:58 |
| zhiyuan_ | #endmeeting | 01:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ostack-hpc / hpc-cloud-toolkit (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 01:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 29 01:58:54 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:58 |
| zhiyuan_ | bye | 01:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-11-29-01.00.html | 01:58 |
| RonghUI | bye | 01:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-11-29-01.00.txt | 01:59 |
| dongfeng | bye | 01:59 |
| song | bye | 01:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-11-29-01.00.log.html | 01:59 |
| Yipei_ | bye | 01:59 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 29 14:02:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 14:02 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 14:02 |
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| mugsie | #endmeeting | 14:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 29 14:10:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-11-29-14.02.html | 14:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-11-29-14.02.txt | 14:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-11-29-14.02.log.html | 14:11 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 29 16:00:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| Swanson | Hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | courtesy ping: jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh | 16:00 |
| tommylikehu | hi | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | hi o/ | 16:00 |
| rajinir | o/ | 16:01 |
| erlon | hey | 16:01 |
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| jungleboyj | Hey all. | 16:01 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, well, looks like this is the group for today. Lets get started | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | #Announcements | 16:02 |
| abishop | o/ | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | Please continue to watch review priorities. There have been a couple of specs that merged this week. Thank you for the help with reviews there. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523608/ | 16:03 |
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| jungleboyj | That is the multi-attach spec. We should get attention to that so we can hopefully get that merged. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | The Inspur driver merged. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | Still waiting for DataCore and Hedvig to work out CI. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | Appreciate cores keeping an eye on those in the next week. | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | The usual reminder that Milestone 2 is next week. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: When would you normally cut the milestone ? | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: I would try to shoot for the Wednesday of the deadline, so it's not a rush on Thursday. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Thursday is the actual deadline. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, that was what I thought. So we have 1 week to get drivers/specs in. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thanks for verifying that. | 16:07 |
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| jungleboyj | The PTG dates have been announced officially! | 16:07 |
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| jungleboyj | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | Croke Park, Dublin, Ireland 2/26 to 3/2/2018 | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | How many people here think they will be able to attend? | 16:08 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: what are the expected cuts (features, drivers, etc ) | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | erlon: Specs Freeze and Driver freeze | 16:08 |
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| erlon | 2 -> spec freeze 1: Driver freeze? | 16:09 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: I think I'll be going :-) | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | I have sent a note indicating that Cinder will participate and estimated 15 people coming. | 16:09 |
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| tommylikehu | 15! | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | I am in, I assume smcginnis is in, Helen and maybe some of her co-workers. | 16:10 |
| Swanson | That a lot? | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: I'll probably be there. :) | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: no | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | tommylikehu: Yeah, that is small. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: You in? | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: planning on it | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Maybe DuncanT can stop by. | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | he better, or we all show up at his door an harass him | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Awesome. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: That will be awesome to see him again! | 16:11 |
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| * jungleboyj looks forward to jgriffith and DuncanT disagreeing on everything again. ;-) | 16:11 | |
| Swanson | 1 person per 10 drivers? | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: better ratio than reviewers :) | 16:12 |
| * DuncanT will be in Dublin | 16:12 | |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: So true. Sadly. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | Anyway, please start planning on attending if possible. I will take a poll as we get closer | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: :-( | 16:13 |
| * jungleboyj celebrates DuncanT 's response! | 16:13 | |
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| jungleboyj | Ok ... Oh and one other announcement. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | I got python-brick-cinderclient-ext 0.6.0 yesterday. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | It was broken by removal of the connector constants from os-brick . | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | That will be fixed with the new release. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | Moving on. | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Documentation with new features: | 16:15 |
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| jungleboyj | A reminder to everyone that we really need to be including documentation with patches that introduce new features. | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: and I have not been blocking on those in general. | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | Will start doing that in the future though. | 16:16 |
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| jungleboyj | If the initial patch doesn't include documentation we need to be following up and making sure that it does get in. | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | Any questions on that item? | 16:17 |
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| jungleboyj | Next ... | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Oversubscription (provisioning improvements): | 16:18 |
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| jungleboyj | gouthamr: and erlon | 16:18 |
| gouthamr | thanks jungleboyj | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | #LINK: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490116/ | 16:18 |
| erlon | hey | 16:18 |
| gouthamr | a'rite this is wrt | 16:18 |
| gouthamr | #LINK: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490116 | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | #ling: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490116/ | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490116/ | 16:18 |
| gouthamr | :P | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | One of those will work. :-) | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | :D | 16:19 |
| gouthamr | erlon/I have been addressing some user expectations downstream about this feature and we think this spec will help some of these concerns | 16:19 |
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| gouthamr | geguileo compiled this spec and noted 2-3 action items, however there is no assignee | 16:20 |
| gouthamr | we were wondering if there was anyone working on it, and if we can help drive this forward.. | 16:20 |
| erlon | gouthamr: also there were some points we discussed about adding better testing for it | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | We merged the Spec yesterday. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Is anyone working on the items in the spec? | 16:21 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: no | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Okie Dokie. | 16:21 |
| geguileo | My priority when writing it was to make sure that the terms and what we have right now was in there | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: ++ | 16:22 |
| geguileo | The improvements were a bonus XD | 16:22 |
| gouthamr | nice, thanks for that geguileo.. we do think the automatic calculation will help some of these users who can't understand the behavior of this inside the scheduler | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: That is always a good thing. | 16:23 |
| erlon | geguileo: Nice, that was really good to have those defined | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: ++ | 16:23 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: we should add those to the devref as well | 16:24 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: ++ | 16:24 |
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| jungleboyj | So, gouthamr and erlon are you guys volunteering to help implement things from the spec? | 16:25 |
| gouthamr | yessir. if anyone would like to help out, please get in touch with erlon and gouthamr, we'll put together a patch.. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: Excellent | 16:25 |
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| smcginnis | Thanks for taking that. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | #action gouthamr and erlon to put together a patch to implement geguileo 's spec. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | It did concern me that the spec has "Primary assignee: None" :) | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Would you be willing to make sure the information gets into the dev ref? | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Agreed but it did also indicate that the primary point of the spec was documentation. | 16:27 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: what do you mean? | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Yes, true. But documentation that points out current issues that needs someone to fix. | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | :-) True. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: You noted that the definitions from the spec and algorithms should make it into the devref. Will you just make sure that is part of your patch or is that additional work? | 16:29 |
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| gouthamr | there were two proposals: one was on automatically computing the max_over_subscription_ratio inside the scheduler | 16:29 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: Ow, ok, I can do that, just need to compile a doc from the spec | 16:29 |
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| erlon | but should go in a separate patch I assume | 16:29 |
| gouthamr | and the other was to report bugs against errant drivers - this one would need help from other driver maintainers.. | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: :-) That was what I was getting at. | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | I mean, we could maybe just point to the spec, but I think having a more official document come out of the spec would be best. | 16:30 |
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| erlon | jungleboyj: there are some good development references in doc/source/contributor/, I think it should do there as well | 16:31 |
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| jungleboyj | erlon: Perfect. | 16:31 |
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| erlon | jungleboyj: just a question, how long until feature freeze from today? | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Good question. | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 16:32 |
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| jungleboyj | Jan 19th is the Feature freeze. | 16:33 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: damn I was trying not having to do the math | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | So, about a month and a half. | 16:33 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: ok | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | this new scheduling is annoying | 16:33 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: thanks | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: No problem. | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: What's new? | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Yeah ... agreed. | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | PTG timing within the cycle? | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Used to be more or less done at Christmas. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Ah. Yeah, that was nice. | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yep. | 16:34 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: yeah, the whole rework of things has kinda backfired if you ask me. Creates mass confusion | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | anyway... carry on | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Agreed, but c'est le vie | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: yep yep yep | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: Ok, so I think we have an open question from you. | 16:35 |
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| gouthamr | do we? | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnf7r6lUVfA | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Nice. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: Well, I guess I need to better understand the plan based on the spec. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | There is max_over_subscription_ratio calculation in the scheduler and then filing bugs against broken drivers. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: You want confusion - there are more people arguing for once a year releases. And others arguing for more frequent releases. | 16:36 |
| * jungleboyj shakes my head | 16:36 | |
| gouthamr | jungleboyj: yes... we can eyeball the other drivers that support this to see if they are compliant with respect to the space reporting | 16:37 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: as long as we have 12 or so deadlines within each that would be great :) | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: Ok, and for those that are not will you switch them to using the in scheduler reporting or just open bugs against them. | 16:37 |
| gouthamr | jungleboyj: yes.. there's a new configuration option proposed which will default to not doing the automatic calculation for backwards compatibility | 16:38 |
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| jungleboyj | gouthamr: Ok. (Sorry if they are dumb questions, it was a while ago that I read the spec in detail). | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: So, drivers that are not doing things properly should be fixed but we can work around it with a config option. | 16:40 |
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| jungleboyj | That sounds good to me. | 16:41 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: actually the drivers that are not doing things properly (reportin provisioned_capacity_gb), if not fixed will continue behaving in the worng way | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Ok, that was what I was trying to get at. | 16:41 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: not sure what to do to enforce a common behaviour across all drivers | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | They would need to fix it or be changed to use the scheduler? | 16:42 |
| gouthamr | jungleboyj: yes, they may be reporting incorrect values today, and that would affect the oversubscription calculations today.. we'll now add this toggle to allow administrators to let cinder adjust the max_over_subscription_ratio based off space realities.. | 16:42 |
| gouthamr | so these errant drivers will probably be wrong even with this optional automatic calculation | 16:42 |
| erlon | gouthamr: exact | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: Ok. | 16:43 |
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| jungleboyj | So, lets get the scheduler improvement in place, open bugs for the broken drivers and then figure out how to tackle those drivers once we know what that list looks like. | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: got time to talk about multi-attach spec? | 16:44 |
| gouthamr | jungleboyj: +1 | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: Cool. | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: I think we will. | 16:45 |
| jgriffith | cool | 16:45 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: +1 | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Lets wrap this up and then I have one short time and then we got you. | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: Anything else on this? | 16:45 |
| gouthamr | jungleboyj: nope | 16:45 |
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| erlon | jungleboyj: Im fine | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | #action gouthamr and erlon to put together patches for the scheduler and documentation. | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | #action gouthamr and erlon to open bugs against broken drivers | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | #action to readdress the plan for broken drivers once we know what the list looks like. | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: erlon Thank you so much for picking this up. geguileo Thanks for getting it started. | 16:47 |
| geguileo | np | 16:48 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Install Documentation: | 16:48 |
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| jungleboyj | This is a follow-up to the discussion I started last week. | 16:48 |
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| jungleboyj | Haged Finley has been looking at our install documentation with fresh eyes. | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | *Hagen (datasundae) on IRC. | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | Finding a number of issues. All of this work also falls into place with the new Contributor Portal and the updates to OpenStack Upstream Institute. | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-documentation-redesign | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | Given that, I have put together an etherpad with some design thoughts. | 16:50 |
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| jungleboyj | Lot of work to be done there but I wanted to share this with the team. Please feel free to add thoughts/concerns in there. | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | Want to make our docs easier for Users, New Contributors and experienced developers to utilize. | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | Need to fix the copy pasta mess that came from pulling it over from the the docs repo. | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | So, take a look if you have a chance. | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | Any questions there? | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | Good plan. | 16:51 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thank you. Just need time to implement. Thankfully datasundae is making nice incremental progress. Should see some patches here soon. | 16:52 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Multi-attach spec | 16:52 |
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| jgriffith | cool | 16:53 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523608/h | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523608/2 | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: :) | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | alright, so I just wanted to point this out and mostly get input on the volume-type thing | 16:53 |
| jungleboyj | Great minds ... | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | My opinion has been that we shouldn't require prior knowledge, but I added the volume-type requirement to the spec anyway | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | because it came up | 16:54 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: I do like that with volume types, a user could just retype if they didn't have multiattach specified. | 16:54 |
| jgriffith | The dilema is unexpected behaviors for an end user if the backend doesn't support multi-attach | 16:54 |
| * jungleboyj is looking. | 16:54 | |
| smcginnis | I didn't really like the idea before that it needed to be specified at creation and never change after that. | 16:54 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: +1 | 16:55 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: I saw the volume-type as a compromise | 16:55 |
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| jgriffith | If anybody has strong feelings let me know either via IRC or via the spec | 16:55 |
| smcginnis | I think it's good. Especially if they are on a multiattach capapable backend, retype would be pretty simple. | 16:55 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: cool, that's settled then :) | 16:56 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 16:56 |
| jgriffith | eharney: I'll add your use case momentarily | 16:56 |
| jgriffith | have to fix my pep8 errors again anyway... stupid vimrc | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Yeah, I think that makes sense. I will read the spec after the meeting. | 16:56 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: thanks, that's all I've got | 16:57 |
| jungleboyj | Cool. | 16:57 |
| jungleboyj | Team, please looks so we can also try to get that spec in. | 16:57 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Thank you for all your work there. | 16:57 |
| smcginnis | Thanks ildikov for pressuring jgriffith to do that work. :) | 16:58 |
| jgriffith | haha! | 16:58 |
| jgriffith | indeed! | 16:58 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Also, FYI, it appears there are some bugs in the new API use from python-brick-cinderclient-ext . | 16:58 |
| jungleboyj | Looking into those and see if I can fix them. | 16:58 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: +1000 | 16:58 |
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| jungleboyj | Well, that is about time. | 16:59 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you team for your work on Cinder and for coming to the meeting. | 16:59 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: I don't imagine the ext has any implementation for the new API calls but I haven't looked | 16:59 |
| jungleboyj | Have a great week and talk to you next week. | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: It actually does. :-) | 17:00 |
| smcginnis | Thanks. | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | It mostly works. :-) | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 29 17:00:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-11-29-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-11-29-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-11-29-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 29 18:02:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:02 |
| bh526r | #topic Roll Call | 18:02 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 18:02 |
| jinli | #info JinLi | 18:03 |
| jinli | Hi Bin | 18:03 |
| bh526r | Hi Jin, how is your holiday? | 18:03 |
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| jinli | very good, how is yours? | 18:04 |
| bh526r | very good | 18:04 |
| jinli | what is your schedule for December? | 18:04 |
| bh526r | open | 18:05 |
| jinli | i won't be available for the last week | 18:05 |
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| jinli | i see. | 18:05 |
| bh526r | I will attend ONAP F2F in Santa Clara, Dec 11-14 | 18:05 |
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| bh526r | Otherwise, open | 18:05 |
| jinli | ok | 18:05 |
| jinli | what is ONAP/ | 18:05 |
| bh526r | Open Networking Automation Platform | 18:06 |
| bh526r | It is another open source networking project | 18:06 |
| jinli | is it open to everyone? | 18:06 |
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| bh526r | of course. | 18:06 |
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| bh526r | https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/ONAP+Beijing+Release+Developer+Forum%2C+Dec.+11-13%2C+2017%2C+Santa+Clara%2C+CA+US | 18:07 |
| bh526r | It is the link of this event. | 18:07 |
| jinli | I see. I may want to attend one day. | 18:07 |
| jinli | thanks | 18:07 |
| bh526r | There is a regustration link there, and you can register | 18:07 |
| bh526r | it is free | 18:07 |
| jinli | Ok | 18:07 |
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| jinli | great | 18:07 |
| bh526r | But if you register and you don't show up, you will be charged $50 | 18:08 |
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| bh526r | So if you reguster, you must attend unless you don't care $50 | 18:08 |
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| jinli | oh, Wow, can I only register for one day. | 18:08 |
| bh526r | I think so. You can go there on Monday, check in which proves that you attend. | 18:09 |
| bh526r | Then it is up to you | 18:09 |
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| jinli | ok , i see, thanks | 18:09 |
| jinli | btw, when I am stacking devstack pike, I only need to change the IP in local.conf | 18:10 |
| bh526r | Yes, as far as I know | 18:10 |
| jinli | hm, ok | 18:10 |
| bh526r | any issue you found? | 18:10 |
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| jinli | I tried on Monday, stacking ran for long time but eventually fail. | 18:11 |
| jinli | fail for various reasons. | 18:11 |
| bh526r | what is failure message? | 18:11 |
| bh526r | what I did was: | 18:12 |
| bh526r | 1. install Ubuntu 16.04 | 18:12 |
| bh526r | 2. apt-get update | 18:12 |
| bh526r | 3. apt-get upgrade | 18:12 |
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| jinli | one time when stacking for half hour, Virtualbox pop up a warning box saying "it has reach a break point" and shot off my vm :( | 18:13 |
| jinli | another time, stacking stops for unable solving pgp | 18:14 |
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| jinli | I will keep trying today. | 18:14 |
| jinli | yes, I already did steps 1-3 | 18:14 |
| bh526r | sorry I am in another meeting, speaking, so wait for me for a few minutes | 18:15 |
| jinli | sure | 18:15 |
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| bh526r | I didn't see those issue before. | 18:18 |
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| jinli | yeah, strange errors. | 18:19 |
| bh526r | I also did apt-get install netfilter-persistent, but it shouldn't affect stack.sh | 18:19 |
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| jinli | ah..., I think I should install this | 18:19 |
| jinli | and try couple more times. | 18:20 |
| jinli | my plan is also to update virtualbox to latest | 18:20 |
| jinli | for some reasons | 18:20 |
| jinli | all VMs are running slow | 18:20 |
| bh526r | sometimes Ubuntu also had issues | 18:20 |
| jinli | I will let you know what happen. | 18:21 |
| bh526r | I shut down all other VMs, and just run one VM at one time | 18:21 |
| jinli | Ok. | 18:21 |
| bh526r | sometimes VB also has unknowns issues especially if you run many VMs concurrently | 18:21 |
| jinli | Ok, that could be. I have 6 VMs. | 18:22 |
| jinli | should remove some of them | 18:22 |
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| bh526r | Perhaps you also need to upgrade VM to its latest, if you haven't done for a while | 18:23 |
| bh526r | I meant VB, virtual box | 18:23 |
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| jinli | ok | 18:24 |
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| bh526r | hopefully everything is ok | 18:26 |
| jinli | should be ok. just need to try couple more times. | 18:26 |
| bh526r | #topic Update | 18:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:27 | |
| bh526r | #info Two patches were approved | 18:28 |
| bh526r | #info (1) Change state_path to use its default value, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519526/ | 18:29 |
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| bh526r | #info (2) Remove confusing else statement, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517732/ | 18:30 |
| bh526r | #info the other 2 need more work. | 18:31 |
| jinli | I am start working on reworking the other 2 | 18:33 |
| bh526r | great | 18:34 |
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| jinli | need to abandon them and start from scratch. | 18:34 |
| bh526r | works for me | 18:34 |
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| bh526r | #info Jin will abandon them, and re-work from scratch | 18:34 |
| bh526r | #info those 2 approved bug fixes were also cherrypicked to stable/pike | 18:35 |
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| bh526r | That's all update we have today | 18:37 |
| bh526r | anything else? | 18:37 |
| jinli | that all from me | 18:37 |
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| bh526r | great, and we can finish the meeting | 18:39 |
| bh526r | #topic AOB | 18:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:39 | |
| bh526r | #info Nothing else, meeting adjourned | 18:39 |
| bh526r | #endmeeting | 18:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ostack-hpc / hpc-cloud-toolkit (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 18:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 29 18:39:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-11-29-18.02.html | 18:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-11-29-18.02.txt | 18:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-11-29-18.02.log.html | 18:39 |
| bh526r | Thank you Jin, and talk to you later | 18:39 |
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| jinli | thanks Bin | 18:40 |
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| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 29 19:11:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:11 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:11 |
| diablo_rojo | Yay! | 19:11 |
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| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 19:12 |
| * diablo_rojo tried to alert people about being late and did it in the wrong channel lol | 19:12 | |
| SotK | its out of date as usual :) | 19:12 |
| SotK | heh, sorry | 19:12 |
| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 19:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "In Progress Work (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:12 | |
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| SotK | so, I've not done any actually visible work, but I have been thinking about various things a bit (such as the old "link to a partially-filled story template" thing) and intend to actually do some work today | 19:13 |
| diablo_rojo | So..legit need to finish the private stuff otherwise the goal will get shoved off till the 'S' release.. | 19:13 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, cool :) | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | We've all had a bunch of other things going on lately I suspect. | 19:14 |
| SotK | diablo_rojo: that's a good point, is that just the "auto-add VMT to private stories that are vulnerabilites" work? | 19:14 |
| SotK | there is also the "add teams to worklist/board permission lists" which is semi related but I think not a blocker | 19:15 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah. And updating the migration script to handle that. | 19:15 |
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| SotK | ah, yeah, that means that the infra volunteer running the migration will always need to be a VMT person when we've done that I think | 19:16 |
| diablo_rojo | I think if the VMT stuff gets completed that should be easier cause the weird permissions stuff should be worked out. | 19:16 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah that makes sense. | 19:16 |
| diablo_rojo | Pretty sure fungi is? If not I can talk to clarkb? He might be? | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | fungi is on the vmt | 19:17 |
| clarkb | (I am not) | 19:17 |
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| diablo_rojo | Thanks clarkb :) | 19:18 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, in terms of testing things we need it to be done by someone with VMT power? | 19:19 |
| SotK | we will do for things that have private bugs in launchpad yeah | 19:19 |
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| diablo_rojo | Okay yeah thats what I thought. | 19:20 |
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| diablo_rojo | Man do I wish we could get more help. | 19:21 |
| diablo_rojo | I had talked to a few guys at the summit and they seemed reasonably interested, but haven't heard from them since really. | 19:22 |
| SotK | heh, me too | 19:22 |
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| diablo_rojo | SotK :) | 19:23 |
| diablo_rojo | Someday. | 19:23 |
| SotK | its also going to be non-trivial to test the changes to the migration script to support private bugs | 19:23 |
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| * diablo_rojo winces thinking about it | 19:23 | |
| SotK | though maybe I just don't know enough about launchpad and it would be easy to set up a pretend project to use as a test | 19:24 |
| diablo_rojo | It will have to be run by fungi I imagine | 19:24 |
| diablo_rojo | or someone else with VMT power | 19:24 |
| diablo_rojo | probably him though :) | 19:24 |
| * SotK suspects so | 19:25 | |
| SotK | anything else in progress? | 19:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Migrating Kolla kind of? | 19:25 |
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| SotK | mhmm | 19:26 |
| diablo_rojo | inc0 is interested. The meeting went fairly well. I was going to drop into their channel and rain down links to docs and stuff. | 19:26 |
| diablo_rojo | After that we should be ready to go. | 19:26 |
| SotK | makes sense | 19:26 |
| SotK | have we tested migrating them? | 19:26 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah Zara did just before the summit and it went well. | 19:27 |
| SotK | excellent | 19:27 |
| diablo_rojo | If I had an environment I could test in I would test more, but I haven't been able to configure one correctly to work. | 19:28 |
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| SotK | I can try and help you with that sometime if you like? | 19:28 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, yeah that would be super helpful. | 19:28 |
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| diablo_rojo | I think that's it for in progress. | 19:30 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 19:30 |
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| diablo_rojo | SotK, Zara if you have time you should check out the release goal. | 19:30 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513875/ | 19:30 |
| * SotK has been vaguely checking but hasn't for a while, I'll take a look | 19:30 | |
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| diablo_rojo | If you only have time to look at the goal or do some work, I would pick work over reading the goal ;) | 19:31 |
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| SotK | I probably have time for both :) | 19:32 |
| diablo_rojo | Even better. | 19:32 |
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| diablo_rojo | In terms of other reviews. We really don't have that many open. I did a few rechecks so once those come back we have a little more material there. | 19:33 |
| SotK | yeah, seems like we need some fresh patches | 19:33 |
| * SotK shall endeavour to provide some soon | 19:34 | |
| * diablo_rojo will try to make some pushes forward with the commenting on old bugs with new links patch | 19:34 | |
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| SotK | thank you :) | 19:34 |
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| SotK | anything else? | 19:35 |
| diablo_rojo | I don't think so.. | 19:36 |
| SotK | then thanks for coming! | 19:36 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 19:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ostack-hpc / hpc-cloud-toolkit (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 19:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 29 19:36:40 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-11-29-19.11.html | 19:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-11-29-19.11.txt | 19:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-11-29-19.11.log.html | 19:36 |
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