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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 02:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Dec 1 02:31:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 02:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 02:31 |
| ekcs | hi all! | 02:31 |
| ekcs | living list of topics here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 02:32 |
| ekcs | please read/comment/add =) | 02:32 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: hi | 02:34 |
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| ekcs | hi ramineni_ ! | 02:34 |
| ekcs | ok shall we dive in? | 02:38 |
| ekcs | #topic queens-2 | 02:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "queens-2 (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 02:38 | |
| ekcs | again, queens-2 is due next week. | 02:39 |
| ekcs | I added to the meeting topics etherpad the open patches I’m thinking we can merge for queens-2. | 02:39 |
| ekcs | do they make sense? anything to add/remove/discuss? | 02:39 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: looks good | 02:41 |
| ekcs | ok then =) | 02:42 |
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| ekcs | the error on removing that one line of transitional code is kind of strange. hopefully i can figure it out soon. | 02:43 |
| ekcs | anyway. | 02:43 |
| ramineni_ | Ya | 02:43 |
| ramineni_ | Great .. Thanks | 02:44 |
| ekcs | #topic patches | 02:44 |
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| ekcs | anything else to discuss on patches? | 02:44 |
| ramineni_ | Nothing from my side | 02:44 |
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| ekcs | haha great. should be a short meeting then =) | 02:45 |
| ekcs | #topic bumping congressclient version | 02:45 |
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| ekcs | I realized now that dashboard is going to depend on new client code, we should probbaly bump the congressclient version in requirements and global requirements. | 02:46 |
| ekcs | we need to think a bit about how to stage that. because first we need to release that client. then update requirements. | 02:47 |
| ramineni_ | Ya .. we can bump the version after feature freeze? | 02:48 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: yea or basically at feature freeze. I think feature freeze and requirement freeze take place at the same time. | 02:49 |
| ramineni_ | Ah , ok | 02:49 |
| ekcs | So we’ll need to think about that carefully in queens-3 to have plenty of time to stage everything. | 02:50 |
| ramineni_ | Ya , ok | 02:50 |
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| ekcs | for queens-2 I’m thinking about it a bit as well. I need to find out whether we need to do a client release at queens-2 week. | 02:50 |
| ekcs | previously we didin’t, but last cycle they asked us to do a release. | 02:51 |
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| ekcs | if we do a client release, then it’d be a good idea to bump the requirements for dashbroad queens-2 release too. | 02:51 |
| ramineni_ | Ok | 02:51 |
| masahito | hi, sorry to be late. | 02:51 |
| ekcs | though if we’re not going to do a client release, then we can probably just wait. | 02:52 |
| ekcs | hi masahito ! | 02:52 |
| ekcs | masahito: topics here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 02:52 |
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| ekcs | ok guess we’re done with the client version discussion. | 02:53 |
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| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 02:54 |
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| ekcs | done with the etherpad topics. anything else we’d like to talk about? | 02:54 |
| ekcs | or revisiting any topics? | 02:54 |
| ramineni_ | Ekcs: saw your mail .. thanks for digging up on Oslo messaging drivers | 02:55 |
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| ekcs | yea. np. glad we figured out what we needed. | 02:55 |
| ramineni_ | Ya | 02:56 |
| ekcs | and great that you brought up the issue of whether we should rely on the in-memory transport. I wouldn’t even have known to look. | 02:56 |
| ramineni_ | :) | 02:57 |
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| ekcs | so. I have something I’m stuck on. | 02:57 |
| ekcs | I’ll mention it real quick and maybe one of you would have an idea about it. | 02:58 |
| ekcs | In this patch, it’s been basically done for a long time I just haven’t beeen able to get the tempest test setup right. | 02:59 |
| ekcs | now I’m running into a weird issue. | 02:59 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508657/9 | 02:59 |
| ekcs | http://logs.openstack.org/57/508657/9/check/openstack-tox-pep8/f76d300/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-30_01_21_00_830976 | 02:59 |
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| ekcs | it says test in undefined on this line. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508657/9/congress_tempest_tests/tests/scenario/congress_datasources/test_neutronv2.py@396 | 03:01 |
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| ekcs | but I have no idea why. it’s the same as all the other tests in the same class. | 03:01 |
| ekcs | I also don’t get the same pep8 error locally. | 03:02 |
| ramineni_ | Ya , looks ok to me too on first look ..I'll check more on this once I reach office | 03:03 |
| ekcs | but it’s a real error. because the same thing is found in the tempest tests. | 03:04 |
| ekcs | http://logs.openstack.org/57/508657/9/check/congress-devstack-api-mysql/a48f02d/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-30_01_50_28_996709 | 03:04 |
| ekcs | so anyway kind of stuck on it. | 03:04 |
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| ekcs | if you find something that’d be great. I can also just remove that line and see what happens, but wanted to show you guys before I did that. | 03:04 |
| ekcs | anyway that’s all from me then. | 03:05 |
| masahito | it looks ok to me too. | 03:05 |
| ekcs | thanks masahito ! | 03:05 |
| ekcs | well anything else we’d like to talk about? or we can end meeting early. | 03:06 |
| masahito | nothing from my side. | 03:08 |
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| ramineni_ | Nothing from my side too | 03:09 |
| ekcs | ok then =) | 03:09 |
| ekcs | more next week then! | 03:09 |
| ekcs | bye all. | 03:10 |
| masahito | thanks! | 03:10 |
| masahito | bye | 03:10 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 03:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Dec 1 03:10:44 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-12-01-02.31.html | 03:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-12-01-02.31.txt | 03:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-12-01-02.31.log.html | 03:10 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Dec 1 15:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx | 15:00 |
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| lbragstad | o/ | 15:01 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | #info Agenda - R-13 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking | 15:01 |
| ttx | reordering | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Makes sense. I'll just wait a minute or so to get going. | 15:02 |
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| * ttx continues to read the silly press | 15:02 | |
| smcginnis | OK, let's get going. | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | #topic Review Q2 TODOs | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Q2 TODOs (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:03 | |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-plan | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Were there specific items you wanted to discuss there? | 15:04 |
| ttx | There were a number of q2-targeted things there | 15:04 |
| ttx | Most we simply decided were not necessarily needed | 15:04 |
| * smcginnis is scanning for tags | 15:04 | |
| ttx | Like we don't really need to fix the ACL for Kolla since it doesn't really follow stable policy | 15:05 |
| ttx | or things are now ok to upload to pypi | 15:05 |
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| smcginnis | I do need to take a look through my tasks there again. It's been a little while. | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | Anyone else that has their name on something that either needs help or knows they will no longer be able to work on it? | 15:06 |
| ttx | if there is anything else that was completed, now is a good time to update those | 15:06 |
| ttx | Potential Zuul v3 compatibility work on line 74 is probably done now | 15:06 |
| ttx | I'll mark it done | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I'd say there was "potential work" there that has been done. :) | 15:07 |
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| ttx | smcginnis: your HIGH TODO on line 98 is done, no ? | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | Yes. I need to remind folks going forward, but I think the actual todo is done. | 15:07 |
| ttx | means we did all our HIGH TODO stuff | 15:07 |
| ttx | leavnig quite a bunch of smaller TODOs for q3 | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | Overall, I think things look good. | 15:09 |
| ttx | everyone should review the things with their names on them, and target to q3 the things they intend to work on | 15:09 |
| ttx | otherwise just leave them as TODO | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 15:09 |
| fungi | looks like everything with my name next to it is crossed off, so time for some egg nog i guess | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | #action Team needs to review work in the etherpad and update status, target to release, etc. | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | fungi: You're done for the year! :) | 15:10 |
| fungi | (though seriously, lmk if you need help working something out related to automation/infrastructure) | 15:10 |
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| smcginnis | For sure, thanks. | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | #topic Potential narrowing of release models following the publication of the OpenStack map | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Potential narrowing of release models following the publication of the OpenStack map (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:11 | |
| ttx | So... the publication of the OpenStack map, and the exercise of putting the various deliverables into separate buckets there, revealed some alignment between buckets and release models which we might want to turn into rules | 15:11 |
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| ttx | in particular, only deployment/lifecyclemanagement tools are using cycle-trailing | 15:11 |
| ttx | that was kind of by design | 15:12 |
| ttx | but we might want to express that more strongly | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | So formalize that into a documented policy? | 15:12 |
| ttx | in the same vein... | 15:12 |
| ttx | All things in the main "OpenStack"ŭckets follow the cycle in some way | 15:12 |
| ttx | which makes sense if we want to call the product we release at the end of the cycle 'OpenStack' | 15:13 |
| fungi | that all makes a lot of sense | 15:13 |
| ttx | basically, the question is, should cycle-trailing only be an option for deployment/packaging tools (I think yes) | 15:13 |
| ttx | and should all the bits that fall into the main "openstack" bucket use a cycle-related model (cycle-with-intermediary or cycle-with-milestones) (I think yes) | 15:14 |
| ttx | that's already the case now | 15:14 |
| ttx | so we can document it | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | The only non-deployment/packaging project I can think of that may need more time would probably be Horizon. | 15:14 |
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| ttx | yeah, although last time we talked about that we also said that horizon being the demo front-end kind of nmeds to be there on release day | 15:15 |
| ttx | needs* | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | #info Question raised if all "openstack" projects should be one of the cycle-* release models. | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | True | 15:15 |
| ttx | If that sounds like a good idea, I'll propose a bunch of changes | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | #info Deployment/packaging would be the only cycle-trailing. | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | ttx: That sounds like a good plan to me. | 15:16 |
| fungi | i would find it odd if horizon weren't ready when the projects release (granted, we also supported documentation not being finalized until well after release and that's similarly strange from an end-user perspective) | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | It could help eliminate some grey areas. | 15:16 |
| ttx | Note that things in the openstack-operations bucket may opt for independent (like Rally) | 15:16 |
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| ttx | since it's a step more removed | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Is that bucket diagram published somewhere now? | 15:17 |
| ttx | that is an excellent questionm | 15:17 |
| ttx | mm | 15:17 |
| ttx | mmm | 15:17 |
| ttx | it's supposed to appear in the next version of the software catalog | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Just thinking it might be nice to link to it as a visual aid. | 15:17 |
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| ttx | but at this point it's not really anywhere except on slides | 15:18 |
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| ttx | oh definitely | 15:18 |
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| ttx | smcginnis: I'm working on it | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | ttx: OK, great. I know it's a work in progress. | 15:18 |
| ttx | OK, let me add that to the plan | 15:18 |
| ttx | assigned to me | 15:18 |
| * smcginnis gives dhellmann a minute for scrollback before moving on. | 15:19 | |
| dhellmann | I agree with the release model discussion. I thought we'd already made the decision that trailing was for deployment tools and everything else had to use a cycle-based model but let's write it down. | 15:19 |
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| smcginnis | #action ttx to propose some changes formalizing release models in relation to buckets | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : thanks, I'm caught up | 15:20 |
| ttx | yes, it was just informal, the map gives us a framework for it | 15:20 |
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| smcginnis | It does help having that map to make it more clear/obvious what is being referred to. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | OK, I'll combine the next to items as I think they're related. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | #topic Release activities while team is at Kubecon | 15:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release activities while team is at Kubecon (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:20 | |
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| smcginnis | I think we can skip the meeting since the majority of us will be in Austin. | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | we could meet in person :-) | 15:21 |
| ttx | Does that not violate some insurance policy? | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: I'm hoping! | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | ttx: that only applies if we're on the same flight, I think? | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Hah. Maybe we just can't all be on the same flight. :) | 15:21 |
| ttx | Oh yes, that's that | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: jinx | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | :-P | 15:21 |
| ttx | OK, so there is the release management discussion with K8s folks | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | We'll have to take separate Uber's though. | 15:22 |
| ttx | Thursday afternoon | 15:22 |
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| smcginnis | ttx: Oh? I wasn't aware of that. Do you have details? | 15:22 |
| ttx | smcginnis: I do have details | 15:22 |
| * smcginnis signed up a while back thinking it would be a nice easy learning conference. Now schedule is full of obligations. :) | 15:23 | |
| ttx | your whole week schedule is about to change | 15:23 |
| ttx | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/k8s-openstack-community-story-trading | 15:23 |
| ttx | I didn't know you were coming | 15:23 |
| ttx | otherwise I would have put you in the loop earlier :) | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | Oh, wow. Yeah, this is great. | 15:24 |
| * ttx has been a bit busy actually engaging with adjacent communities | 15:24 | |
| ttx | Add your name and join the party | 15:24 |
| ttx | I kept my dinner options on Wed and Thu open so that we can continue the discussions there | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | I was on the calls with Allison, but those were more around messaging and booth duty things. | 15:25 |
| ttx | but worst case scenario that will be all 3 of us having a calm dinner | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | I changed my flight to leave Sat since the OS SIG is late Friday afternoon so I'll be around Friday night, too | 15:25 |
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| ttx | ok, good to know | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | I leave Saturday as well. | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I updated the framadate thing | 15:26 |
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| ttx | I don't really look into that framadate anymore, now that the schedule is solid | 15:26 |
| ttx | there lies depression | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | wasted effort! | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | #info No release team meeting next week. | 15:27 |
| ttx | dhellmann: for the Wednesday lunch spot I was thinking of invading the Four Seasons lobby bar and ordering bar food. That setting might work for our unknown number of participants | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | IIRC, they have a big open area. That should work. | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | that sounds reasonable. I was wondering if we needed reservations but that's hard to do with an unknown number | 15:28 |
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| ttx | yeah, they have a nice place and people tend to not go there from the Austin CC | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | wfm then | 15:28 |
| ttx | I really have no idea how many people will REALLY show up | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | I updated the calendar entry | 15:29 |
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| smcginnis | When do folks get in to Austin? I arrive mid-day Tuesday. | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | Tuesday evening some time | 15:30 |
| ttx | late Tuesday | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | looks like after 8 for me | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | I'm staying in the conference hotel and I'm sure I'll be hungry by the time I get there | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | I'm a couple blocks away at an AirBnB. | 15:31 |
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| smcginnis | Anything else we should discuss before next week? | 15:32 |
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| ttx | nope | 15:32 |
| ttx | See you there! | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | OK, I think we can wrap it up then. Thanks everyone. | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | Looking forward to seeing everyone next week. | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Dec 1 15:33:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-12-01-15.00.html | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-12-01-15.00.txt | 15:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-12-01-15.00.log.html | 15:33 |
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