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| hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 5 03:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| kiennt26 | o/ hi | 03:00 |
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| kevinz | o/ | 03:00 |
| Shunli | shunli | 03:00 |
| hongbin | thanks for joining kiennt26 kevinz Shunli | 03:01 |
| hongbin | ok, let's get started | 03:01 |
| hongbin | #topic Announcements | 03:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:02 | |
| hongbin | i have an announcement | 03:02 |
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| hongbin | i will be on vacation starting from next week, until the end of this year | 03:02 |
| Shunli | ......... | 03:02 |
| hongbin | mkrai will serve as a temp PTL while i am on vacation | 03:02 |
| hongbin | any other announcement from our team member ? | 03:03 |
| kevinz | hongbin: admire you :-) | 03:03 |
| hongbin | kevinz: :) | 03:03 |
| kevinz | hongbin: have a good vacation | 03:03 |
| hongbin | kevinz: thank you | 03:03 |
| hongbin | ok, next topic | 03:04 |
| hongbin | #topic Container composition & k8s connector (kevinz) | 03:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Container composition & k8s connector (kevinz) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:04 | |
| hongbin | kevinz: ^^ | 03:04 |
| kevinz | I'm working on investigation for k8s connector | 03:04 |
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| kevinz | some commit to my github | 03:05 |
| kevinz | https://github.com/kevin-zhaoshuai/openstack-connector-k8s | 03:05 |
| kevinz | Still need to do more about connect to K8s client | 03:05 |
| kevinz | This week I will implement Volume support for capsule first | 03:06 |
| hongbin | sure | 03:06 |
| hongbin | btw, glad to see a good progress on the k8s connector | 03:06 |
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| hongbin | kevinz: any other update from your side ? | 03:08 |
| kevinz | hongbin: Thanks, this features need to go through the create-pod -->create capsule process first | 03:08 |
| kevinz | That's all from my side | 03:08 |
| hongbin | kevinz: ack | 03:08 |
| hongbin | thanks kevinz | 03:08 |
| hongbin | all, any question / comments on this topic before moving to another topic ? | 03:09 |
| kevinz | my pleasure | 03:09 |
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| hongbin | #topic Add support for clear container (mkrai) | 03:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add support for clear container (mkrai) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:09 | |
| hongbin | for this one, i am helping madhuri to update the devstack patch | 03:09 |
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| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499534/ | 03:10 |
| hongbin | manage to the gate to sucess lask week | 03:10 |
| hongbin | still need some testing on clear container runtime before removing the WIP | 03:11 |
| hongbin | that is all on this one | 03:11 |
| kevinz | hongbin: I've question | 03:11 |
| hongbin | kevinz: go ahead | 03:11 |
| kevinz | do we can use Clear container with zun now? | 03:11 |
| kevinz | I'd like to try it in Arm server:-) | 03:12 |
| hongbin | if cc is installed, we can use cc in zun | 03:12 |
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| hongbin | the key is using the --runtime option to specify cc as the runtime (default is runc) | 03:13 |
| kevinz | This command in zun client? | 03:13 |
| hongbin | kevinz: yes | 03:13 |
| kevinz | I mean --runtime | 03:13 |
| hongbin | kevinz: zun create --runtime ... | 03:13 |
| kevinz | OK. I'll try | 03:14 |
| kevinz | Thanks hongbin | 03:14 |
| hongbin | kevinz: welcome | 03:14 |
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| hongbin | ok, move on to the next topic | 03:14 |
| hongbin | #topic Introduce package manager for Zun application (hongbin) | 03:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Introduce package manager for Zun application (hongbin) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:14 | |
| Shunli | hongbin, what should do on compute node for cc? | 03:14 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/zun-app-package-manager | 03:14 |
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| Shunli | the community docker will works for cc? | 03:15 |
| hongbin | Shunli: yes, cc is a runtime in docker | 03:15 |
| Shunli | ok, thx. | 03:15 |
| Shunli | I like to try the cc. | 03:15 |
| hongbin | Shunli: docker default runtime is runc, so if you don't do special configuration, zun will use runc | 03:15 |
| hongbin | Shunli: the devstack patch is for configuring docker to enable cc as the alternative runtime | 03:16 |
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| Shunli | ack. thx hongbin. | 03:16 |
| hongbin | no problem | 03:16 |
| hongbin | ok, for the package management bp | 03:16 |
| hongbin | i am writing the spec last week | 03:17 |
| hongbin | i was trying to clarify the idea | 03:17 |
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| hongbin | in general, the following will be proposed | 03:17 |
| hongbin | 1. a packaging format | 03:17 |
| hongbin | 2. a package repository | 03:17 |
| hongbin | 3. package management server | 03:18 |
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| hongbin | for #2, it will be the same as helm, we can use any http server to serve as the image repository, as long as it serves http | 03:18 |
| hongbin | the package repository is mainly for serving a few tar file (the package) to download | 03:19 |
| kevinz | it is maintained by user or upstream? | 03:19 |
| hongbin | in openstack, we can use swift for this purpose, alternative is github pages, aws s3 ... | 03:19 |
| hongbin | kevinz: we will have a devstack script to set that up | 03:19 |
| kevinz | hongbin: ack | 03:20 |
| hongbin | kevinz: it is maintained by the administrator in my first thought | 03:20 |
| hongbin | for #3, the question from reviewers is how to store the data (i.e. package) | 03:21 |
| kevinz | hongbin: OK, I just wonder it is a prebuilt or user built | 03:22 |
| hongbin | the proposal is to store data in zun-api endpoint | 03:22 |
| hongbin | kevinz: my primitive thought is to have everyone has privilege to upload their own package to their tenant, but only admin can publish package across tenants | 03:23 |
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| kevinz | hongbin: +1. good approach | 03:24 |
| hongbin | however, still need to investigate the details and clarify it in the next patchset | 03:25 |
| hongbin | i guess that is all from my side | 03:25 |
| hongbin | appreciate reviews if you have time | 03:25 |
| kevinz | Huge work I think:-) | 03:26 |
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| kevinz | I will review | 03:26 |
| hongbin | yes, but i will try to get a minimum functionality working at the first iteration | 03:26 |
| hongbin | and build up the whole things steps by steps | 03:27 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 03:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:27 | |
| hongbin | Shunli: kiennt26 : anything you want to discuss at the meeting ? | 03:28 |
| kiennt26 | hi | 03:28 |
| kiennt26 | Regarding patch 524045, it don't work as expect. | 03:28 |
| kiennt26 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524045/ | 03:28 |
| kiennt26 | here is the log, it raises PCIdeviceNotfound exception | 03:29 |
| kiennt26 | #link http://logs.openstack.org/45/524045/3/check/zun-tempest-docker-etcd/452823b/logs/screen-zun-compute.txt.gz#_Dec_04_09_47_28_783378 | 03:29 |
| hongbin | i see | 03:30 |
| kiennt26 | I'm working on it to figure out what was wrong. | 03:30 |
| hongbin | thanks for that kien | 03:30 |
| Shunli | seems the update_pci_devices not work as expected. | 03:30 |
| Shunli | pci device created in etcd in update_pci_device. | 03:31 |
| hongbin | that is fine, the etcd gate was always failing in before | 03:31 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: thanks for reporting that | 03:32 |
| Shunli | thanks kien for working on that. | 03:33 |
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| kiennt26 | hongbin, Shunli: yrw :) I'm working to make etcd gate green | 03:33 |
| hongbin | great, thanks for that | 03:34 |
| Shunli | great. | 03:34 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: btw, thanks for the api version patch in tempest, that is great work! | 03:34 |
| hongbin | it fixes a bunch of problem, and make us enable to write further test cases | 03:35 |
| kiennt26 | my pleasure o/ | 03:35 |
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| hongbin | ok, all, anything else to discuss before closing the meeting ? | 03:36 |
| kiennt26 | About patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525036/ , what is your opinion? Should we have a note as my comment? Or simply use KURYR_CAPABILITY_SCOPE=global. | 03:36 |
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| hongbin | kiennt26: i don't have strong opinion for that | 03:36 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: i will take the approach you prefer | 03:37 |
| kiennt26 | hongbin: yeah. How about you, Shunli , kevinz? WDYT? | 03:37 |
| Shunli | watching the patch | 03:38 |
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| Shunli | i do not know the context, can not give opinion. | 03:40 |
| hongbin | i think having a note is always good | 03:41 |
| hongbin | it will get readers understand the this config better, so kiennt26 , i think your suggestion is good | 03:42 |
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| kiennt26 | Ok, let's do this way. That's all from me. | 03:42 |
| hongbin | thanks kiennt26 | 03:42 |
| kiennt26 | hongbin: Have a good vacation | 03:42 |
| hongbin | all, thanks for joining the meeting see you next time | 03:42 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: thanks | 03:42 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 03:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 5 03:43:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-12-05-03.00.html | 03:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-12-05-03.00.txt | 03:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-12-05-03.00.log.html | 03:43 |
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| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
| sagara | Hi | 04:00 |
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| tpatil | Today Sampath is not available so I will chair today's meeting | 04:00 |
| tpatil | #startmeeting Masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 5 04:00:48 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| tpatil | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Masakari | 04:01 |
| tpatil | #topic High priority items | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High priority items (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| tpatil | Any one wants to bring up any high priority items? | 04:02 |
| sagara | no | 04:02 |
| tpatil | Moving to next topic | 04:02 |
| tpatil | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 04:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:03 | |
| rkmrHonjo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486576/ | 04:03 |
| rkmrHonjo | The above patch addresses py35 UT error. Please review it. | 04:03 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: I will review it | 04:04 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks. | 04:04 |
| tpatil | I have seen Takahara has proposed a new PS : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515013/ | 04:05 |
| tpatil | I will review above PS as well | 04:05 |
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| tpatil | No new bugs reported | 04:05 |
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| tpatil | Moving ahead | 04:06 |
| tpatil | #topic Discussion points | 04:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion points (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:06 | |
| tpatil | Horizon Plugin | 04:06 |
| tpatil | I can see masakari-dashboard repo is created | 04:06 |
| tpatil | #link https://github.com/openstack/masakari-dashboard | 04:06 |
| tpatil | Niraj will propose cookie-cutter patch soon | 04:07 |
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| tpatil | Install guide document (in progress) | 04:08 |
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| tpatil | Need another +2 and workflow to get all patches merge | 04:09 |
| tpatil | Please review these patches | 04:09 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I'll review it if I can. But I'm very busy now, sorry... | 04:10 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Ok | 04:11 |
| tpatil | Recovery method customization | 04:11 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458023/ | 04:11 |
| tpatil | Please review the specs | 04:12 |
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| tpatil | There were few review comments from Abhishek which has been fixed | 04:12 |
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| tpatil | Find hosts without specifying segments | 04:13 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506986/ | 04:13 |
| tpatil | I will review the updated specs in this week | 04:13 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks. | 04:14 |
| tpatil | Queen work items | 04:15 |
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| tpatil | No updates from my end | 04:15 |
| rkmrHonjo | me too. | 04:15 |
| tpatil | Ansible support for Masakari | 04:16 |
| tpatil | Last week, we discussed about it | 04:16 |
| tpatil | Dinesh will start understanding how to develop ansible plugins | 04:16 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | No updates for ansible support from my side yet. I have strated exploring ansible plugin for magnum. | 04:16 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | I think we have to follow the same for masakari | 04:17 |
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| rkmrHonjo | Dinesh_Bhor: It sounds good to me. | 04:18 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: Thanks | 04:18 |
| tpatil | Last time, Sampath asked us to create a new blueprint in Ansible project | 04:19 |
| tpatil | once we have basic understanding about Ansible plugins, let's submit a new BP in Ansible project | 04:19 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | tpatil, yes | 04:19 |
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| tpatil | Ok, that's end of the agenda | 04:21 |
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| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I added a item to Discussion points. | 04:22 |
| tpatil | Anyone wants to bring up any new topic? | 04:22 |
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| tpatil | Let me check | 04:23 |
| rkmrHonjo | That is "Call Force down API when host-failure will be notified". | 04:23 |
| rkmrHonjo | Can I explain about this item? | 04:23 |
| tpatil | Yes ,please | 04:23 |
| rkmrHonjo | ok. Current masakari will wait for 3 minutes when host-failure will be notified. ("3 minutes is configurable.) | 04:24 |
| rkmrHonjo | The purpose of this is to wait nova-compute down. | 04:24 |
| tpatil | Does masakari-monitor wait for 3 mins before notifying to masakari-api? | 04:24 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: no. masakari-monitor doesn't wait. masakari wait. | 04:25 |
| rkmrHonjo | So, I think, there is a possibility that using force down API instead of waiting make recovery process faster. | 04:25 |
| rkmrHonjo | Updated forced down API of nova can change service state of nova-compute. | 04:26 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | rkmrHonjo: you mean UP/DOWN ? | 04:27 |
| rkmrHonjo | Dinesh_Bhor: no, only DOWN. | 04:27 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | rkmrHonjo: yeah | 04:27 |
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| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Can you point out the place where masakari waits for 3 mins? | 04:28 |
| tpatil | You mean config option: wait_period_after_service_update | 04:28 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: ok, please wait a thile. | 04:28 |
| rkmrHonjo | s/thile/while | 04:28 |
| rkmrHonjo | #link https://github.com/openstack/masakari/blob/93556d3116eb8c62bf881da0edd05692c9ebd66e/masakari/engine/drivers/taskflow/host_failure.py#L52 | 04:29 |
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| tpatil | Ok, that's a good idea. But does it guarantee that nova-compute won't change instance state after force down api returns | 04:30 |
| tpatil | I haven't checked force down api yet. will check it at my end | 04:30 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thank you for pointing out. I check it after that, too. | 04:31 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | rkmrHonjo: so this new API will *DOWN* the state as well as *Disable* the status of nova-compute service, right? | 04:31 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | rkmrHonjo: okay, I wiill check the API by myself. thanks for suggestion. | 04:31 |
| tpatil | basically you cannot evacuate any instances until nova-compute service is down on the failed compute host | 04:32 |
| rkmrHonjo | Dinesh_Bhor: Call disable API will be remained. I will add calling update forced down API instead of eventlet.sleep. | 04:32 |
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| rkmrHonjo | taptil: right. | 04:32 |
| tpatil | so you can call this api to disable nova-compute service immediately | 04:32 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | rkmrHonjo: okay, thanks | 04:33 |
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| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Please propose lite specs for this change | 04:33 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: ok. | 04:33 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Thank you | 04:34 |
| rkmrHonjo | That is all from my side about this item. | 04:35 |
| tpatil | Let's end this meeting | 04:36 |
| tpatil | Thank you, All | 04:36 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | thank you all | 04:36 |
| rkmrHonjo | thanks. | 04:36 |
| sagara | Thank you | 04:36 |
| tpatil | #endmeeting | 04:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 5 04:36:42 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-12-05-04.00.html | 04:36 |
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| bjgirl | hi | 08:51 |
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| edisonxiang | hey guys | 09:02 |
| chenying | #startmeeting karbor | 09:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 5 09:02:57 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chenying. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: karbor)" | 09:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'karbor' | 09:03 |
| jiaopengju | hi chenying | 09:03 |
| edisonxiang | hi guys how are you | 09:03 |
| chenying | hi weclcome to karbor irc meeting. | 09:03 |
| jiaopengju | hi edisonxiang | 09:03 |
| chenying | There is no topic today. Do you have any topic want to discuss? | 09:03 |
| chenying | #topic Open Discussion | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: karbor)" | 09:04 | |
| chenying | I have submit a patch to release python-karborclient. | 09:04 |
| jiaopengju | chenying: nice :) | 09:04 |
| chenying | https://ethercalc.openstack.org/karbor-queens | 09:04 |
| chenying | wo did a great job in queens cycle of karbor. Lots of bps have been finished. | 09:05 |
| jiaopengju | I am doing the dev of ansible, but it’s very slowly :( | 09:06 |
| chenying | So we could focus on the bug fix and optimizing in the later period of this cycle. | 09:06 |
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| chenying | jiaopengju: Poor network have blocked you work about karbor ansible? | 09:07 |
| jiaopengju | chenying: it seems yes. I’m trying to resolve it | 09:08 |
| chenying | jiaopengju: OK. I will ask for some help from other guys who have done some work about ansible. | 09:09 |
| jiaopengju | chenying: that’s cool | 09:09 |
| chenying | jiaopengju: Ask for how to solve the network problom about installing ansible packages. | 09:10 |
| jiaopengju | chenying: understand | 09:10 |
| jiaopengju | chenying: I am trying it with ubuntu now, hope there are not so many issues | 09:11 |
| chenying | jiaopengju: OK. | 09:12 |
| chenying | I am working on the bp about json schema Validation. So in the later weeks, I will add the json schema Validation for karbor API resources. | 09:13 |
| jiaopengju | chenying: good! | 09:14 |
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| chenying | So do we have any other topic to discuss? | 09:14 |
| jiaopengju | no from me | 09:15 |
| chenying | hi jiaopengju: I ask zhangshuai about the network problom about installing ansible packages. He said that he install the ansible in the ubuntu, he didn't get much issue about it. | 09:16 |
| chenying | jiaopengju: So you can try to install ansible in the ubuntu. | 09:17 |
| jiaopengju | chenying: ok, the issues occur on CentOS | 09:17 |
| chenying | jiaopengju: OK | 09:19 |
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| chenying | So there is not topic to discuss, I will end this meeting. If we have any other, we could discuss it in karbor irc channel. | 09:20 |
| chenying | #endmeeting | 09:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 5 09:21:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-12-05-09.02.html | 09:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-12-05-09.02.txt | 09:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-12-05-09.02.log.html | 09:21 |
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| ruijie_ | #startmeeting senlin | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 5 13:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ruijie_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' | 13:00 |
| XueFeng | hi ruijie_ | 13:00 |
| ruijie_ | hi all, this is the agenda, please feel free to add topics: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda#Agenda_.282017-12-05_1300_UTC.29 | 13:00 |
| ruijie_ | hi XueFeng | 13:00 |
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| ruijie_ | let's wait for a while | 13:02 |
| elynn | hi ruijie_ | 13:02 |
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| Qiming | hi | 13:03 |
| ruijie_ | hi elynn :) | 13:03 |
| chenybd_ | hi | 13:03 |
| ruijie_ | Qiming | 13:03 |
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| XueFeng | hi,all | 13:03 |
| ruijie_ | woo | 13:03 |
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| ruijie_ | let's get started :) | 13:03 |
| ruijie_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523965/ | 13:03 |
| ruijie_ | the first one is the lifecycle hook for scale-in action | 13:04 |
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| ruijie_ | this means we will set a temporary status for the scale-in action | 13:05 |
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| ruijie_ | and a greenthread will wait for the change of the status | 13:06 |
| ruijie_ | so that the server or user have time to terminate there service on the server before we destroy it | 13:06 |
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| Qiming | spawn_after means creating a new greenthread after given time interval? | 13:09 |
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| ruijie_ | emm, I think he want to create a thread in the policy to wait for the TIMEOUT happens | 13:09 |
| Qiming | he meant to invoke spawn_after | 13:10 |
| ruijie_ | this thread will go head to destroy the server if we receive a message/request directly, or we wait for the TIMEOUT and then destroy it | 13:10 |
| Qiming | I'm not sure a thread is actually created, but ... anyway | 13:10 |
| Qiming | it is a confirmation | 13:10 |
| ruijie_ | yes Qiming | 13:11 |
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| Qiming | WAITING_LIFECYCLE_COMPLETION | 13:11 |
| Qiming | it makes sense | 13:11 |
| Qiming | but there are some corner cases to check | 13:11 |
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| Qiming | suppose we have a cluster-scale-in request arriving, with timeout set to 180 seconds | 13:11 |
| Qiming | then we cannot wait for the new confirmation for more than 30 seconds | 13:12 |
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| Qiming | also, in current implementation, policies are checked DURING action execution, not BEFORE action execution | 13:12 |
| Qiming | when CLUSTER_SCALE_IN action is executed, senlin will check the policies attached to the cluster | 13:13 |
| Qiming | that action will lock the cluster for operation | 13:13 |
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| Qiming | for cluster status to be consistent, we cannot release that lock | 13:14 |
| Qiming | we have to wait for the WAITING_LIFECYCLE_COMPLETION signal to arrive, while holding the lock | 13:14 |
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| ruijie_ | yes Qiming, the cluster should be locked during this period | 13:15 |
| elynn | That might block the whole cluster operation? | 13:15 |
| ruijie_ | maybe pointing at node actions makes sense: cluster scale-in --> node-delete(pre_check the policy, create threadGroup/thread to process, and release current thread) | 13:15 |
| Qiming | yes, elynn | 13:16 |
| Qiming | for this particular use case, I'm wondering if we can extend the deletion policy | 13:17 |
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| ruijie_ | once we receive a message/request, we only update the node status | 13:17 |
| Qiming | say add a property to the deletion policy: | 13:17 |
| ruijie_ | action's status actually | 13:17 |
| Qiming | notify: | 13:17 |
| Qiming | type: zaqar | 13:18 |
| Qiming | sink: wherever zaqar is | 13:18 |
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| Qiming | need_confirm: true | 13:18 |
| Qiming | timeout: 120 | 13:18 |
| Qiming | we continue the cluster-scale-in or cluster-resize or node-delete operation | 13:19 |
| Qiming | just the node will become orphant node | 13:20 |
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| ruijie_ | or reject the deletion? | 13:20 |
| Qiming | acutally node DESTROY happens either 1) timeout waiting for confirm, or 2) a confirm message is received via the proposed new action | 13:20 |
| elynn | So this node was actually removed from a cluster instead of deleted? | 13:21 |
| Qiming | yes ... | 13:21 |
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| elynn | How can senlin receive a confirm message? | 13:21 |
| Qiming | no matter we are getting a notification or not, the node will be removed | 13:21 |
| elynn | from receiver? | 13:21 |
| Qiming | the use case is actually only about "postponing the node deletion operation" | 13:22 |
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| Qiming | kind of a new action as proposed in the spec | 13:22 |
| elynn | Also we might need a new node status. | 13:23 |
| Qiming | yes, that is fine | 13:23 |
| Qiming | this is a very real use case | 13:24 |
| Qiming | just trying to identify some mismatches between the proposed approach and senlin's current workflow | 13:24 |
| Qiming | we cannot do policy check before locking a cluster | 13:25 |
| Qiming | there are race conditions | 13:25 |
| ruijie_ | the advantage for a new policy is that we can extend it to support cluster-scale-out, to ask permission from supervisors? | 13:25 |
| Qiming | say senlin noticed a "lifecycle" policy attached, so it decides to do something, then before senlin actually started doing the job, the policy may get detached ... | 13:26 |
| Qiming | that is true, ruijie_ | 13:26 |
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| Qiming | still, we have to check policy with cluster locked | 13:26 |
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| Qiming | and it will introduce more concurrency issues if we lock a cluster twice: one lock for policy checking, another for actual cluster operation | 13:28 |
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| ruijie_ | emm, how about: cluster-scale-in --> lock the cluster --> node actions --> check the policy --> hold here .. we only focus on the node level | 13:29 |
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| Qiming | yes, for scaling in operation, that is what I was talking about | 13:29 |
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| Qiming | to be more specific, the policy is a new deletion policy | 13:30 |
| Qiming | that policy will grant users sufficient time to drain a node | 13:30 |
| Qiming | the question is ... when are we releasing the cluster lock | 13:31 |
| Qiming | once required number of nodes are removed from the cluster, we treat the cluster scale-in operation completed | 13:32 |
| Qiming | however, the deletion policy leaves a thread waiting for further confirmation before destroying the node | 13:32 |
| Qiming | and it is just an extension of the grace period | 13:32 |
| Qiming | make sense? | 13:33 |
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| ruijie_ | looks so.. rejection might be reasonable? | 13:34 |
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| Qiming | rejection? | 13:34 |
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| ruijie_ | you are not able to destroy the node currently, please try again | 13:34 |
| Qiming | no, cluster-scale-in operation was successful | 13:35 |
| Qiming | number of active/working nodes reduced | 13:35 |
| Qiming | just there are some nodes not yet cleanly destroyed | 13:35 |
| Qiming | leaving nodes there untouched has been treated as a valid situation before | 13:36 |
| Qiming | we have "destroy_after_deletion" property in deletion policy 1.0 | 13:36 |
| Qiming | what we really need is some new fields, that prolongs the waiting period, and waiting for a confirmation before finally destroying the node | 13:37 |
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| Qiming | I'm also a little bit cautious at introducing new policies | 13:38 |
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| Qiming | one principle we had in senlin is that all policies are independent from each other | 13:38 |
| Qiming | they can be used separately, and they can be combined freely | 13:39 |
| Qiming | all policies have builtin priorities to make sure all possible combinations make senses | 13:39 |
| Qiming | the new lifecycle policy, if permited, will conflict with deletion policy, I'm afraid | 13:40 |
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| Qiming | although, I do see how careful the author has been when drafting the spec | 13:40 |
| Qiming | he/she has considered actions to handle, alternatives to the proposed approach etc etc | 13:41 |
| ruijie_ | exactly, it looks like an extension of the deletion policy, but useful for some cases | 13:41 |
| Qiming | it is a great spec | 13:41 |
| Qiming | yet another possibility ... if I failed to convince you that an extension to the deletion policy is okay for the use case | 13:42 |
| Qiming | we don't call this a policy | 13:43 |
| Qiming | a lifecycle hook is a hook | 13:43 |
| Qiming | it is a precheck and postcheck for cluster level operations | 13:43 |
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| Qiming | we don't lock the cluster for these hooks | 13:43 |
| Qiming | we clearly document what can happen when user application receives a notification from senlin | 13:44 |
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| ruijie_ | but other actions could be triggered during this period if we do not lock the cluster/node | 13:46 |
| Qiming | right, that is the dilemma | 13:47 |
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| Qiming | in fact, we don't have a lot choices | 13:47 |
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| Qiming | one option is a synchronous call, senlin doesn't move forward until we get a response | 13:48 |
| Qiming | another option is asynchronous notification | 13:48 |
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| Qiming | sync calls to outside world, with cluster locks held, is dangerous, imo | 13:49 |
| ruijie_ | but it meets our action flow.. | 13:49 |
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| Qiming | exactly | 13:51 |
| XueFeng | A little time for another two topics:) | 13:52 |
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| ruijie_ | I see, that is a problem .., sync == hold cluster lock, async == release lock for current implementation | 13:52 |
| Qiming | ya, don't do async calls with locks held ... ;) | 13:53 |
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| ruijie_ | ha sorry, we do not have enough time for rest topics, so please leave comments for this patch :) | 13:53 |
| Qiming | yep. please jump in and leave comments | 13:54 |
| Qiming | btw, ruijie_ , we are about to release q-2 this week | 13:54 |
| ruijie_ | let's move to senlin channel? we only have 6 minutes left | 13:54 |
| ruijie_ | yes Qiming | 13:54 |
| ruijie_ | I am working on it today | 13:54 |
| Qiming | release team is not sending notifications? | 13:54 |
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| Qiming | great! | 13:55 |
| XueFeng | great man, ruijie_ | 13:55 |
| ruijie_ | I am going to release the channel, we have another 2 topics need to discuss in #senlin | 13:55 |
| Qiming | ok | 13:56 |
| ruijie_ | thanks for joining :) | 13:56 |
| ruijie_ | #endmeeting | 13:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 5 13:56:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-12-05-13.00.html | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-12-05-13.00.txt | 13:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-12-05-13.00.log.html | 13:56 |
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| jlibosva | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 5 14:00:48 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | hi all | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:00 |
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| zhangyanxian | Hi | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:01 | |
| bcafarel | o/ | 14:01 |
| hichihara | hi | 14:01 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:01 |
| slaweq_ | hello | 14:01 |
| annp | hi | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | Q-2 milestone cut is set for 7th Dec which is this week | 14:01 |
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| jlibosva | I don't have any other announcements | 14:02 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: do you have any announcements to make? | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | actually, we are planning tomorr | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | tomorrow | 14:02 |
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| mlavalle | and also | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | just a heads up | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | PTG tickets are available noew | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | now | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | last week of February in Dublin | 14:03 |
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| mlavalle | hope to see many of you there | 14:03 |
| zhangyanxian | Good | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | was there any ML with link? | 14:04 |
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| mlavalle | hang on | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | ML thread I mean | 14:04 |
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| mlavalle | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 14:04 |
| zhangyanxian | Ok,thanks | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124978.html | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | I missed it :) there is already a place, nice | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: thanks | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | the venue is a soccer stadium | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | that will be interesting | 14:06 |
| davidsha | Don't call it that when you get here ;) | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | true | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | Football stadium | 14:06 |
| slaweq_ | :) | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | lol | 14:06 |
| annp | :) | 14:06 |
| zhangyanxian | Cool | 14:06 |
| hichihara | Will we play soccer there? | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | wow, I stayed once right next to that stadium :) | 14:07 |
| haleyb | i'll have to bring a ball and pump | 14:07 |
| annp | hichihara: that's sound good :) | 14:07 |
| hichihara | :) | 14:08 |
| jlibosva | I wanted to make an AI for hichihara to create a Neutron football team for the PTG :D | 14:08 |
| jlibosva | ok, any other announcements? | 14:08 |
| hichihara | lol | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | none from me | 14:08 |
| jlibosva | thanks | 14:09 |
| jlibosva | let's move on then | 14:09 |
| slaweq_ | I can be a goalkeeper :P | 14:09 |
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| jlibosva | #topic Blueprints | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:09 | |
| jlibosva | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/queens-2 | 14:09 |
| jlibosva | I'm trying to work on reviewing logging API, I left some comments this morning | 14:10 |
| slaweq_ | jlibosva: so do I | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | annp: would you have a few minutes to discuss some details regarding ovs-fw logging patch after the meeting? | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | the last big piece ois the FW implementation, right? | 14:10 |
| slaweq_ | but only on one patch AFAIR | 14:10 |
| annp | thanks jakub and slawek, | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: yes, and adding some test coverage | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | other pieces areminor | 14:10 |
| annp | jlibosva: sure. | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | and devstack support afair | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | annp: thanks :) | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: how's it going with the multiple port bindings? | 14:11 |
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| mlavalle | I made a lot of progress last weekend | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | per your comments a few weeks ago | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | I am moving the implementgation to the ML2 plugin | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | the code I pushed on Sunday already achieves binding when cireating a new bind | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | On that foundation I will build up the update operation and the the activate | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | I feel confident we will be ready in Q-3 | 14:13 |
| jlibosva | nice | 14:13 |
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| jlibosva | any other blueprint worth mentioning here? | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | The QoS for floating ips | 14:14 |
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| mlavalle | it is getting very close I think | 14:14 |
| slaweq_ | it is almost done IMO | 14:14 |
| slaweq_ | there is one patch in review still | 14:14 |
| slaweq_ | server side is already merged | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | haleyb and slaweq_ have made a great job helping with reviews | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | the last piece missing is agent side | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | and I requested the author also some docs | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | which apparently he will push in a separate patch | 14:15 |
| slaweq_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521079/ <-- this is agent side patch, please check if You will have few minutes | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | that's it as far as that blueprint | 14:16 |
| jlibosva | ok, thanks | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | xgerman_: any update on FWaaS V2? | 14:17 |
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| mlavalle | he's probably not around, let's move on | 14:17 |
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| jlibosva | ok | 14:18 |
| jlibosva | #topic Starter Approved RFEs | 14:18 |
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| zhangyanxian | I have a blueprint for SR-IOV bond. | 14:18 |
| zhangyanxian | link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506066/ | 14:18 |
| zhangyanxian | would you please have a few minutes to review it? | 14:18 |
| jlibosva | #undo | 14:18 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Starter Approved RFEs | 14:18 |
| jlibosva | or is it for this section? | 14:18 |
| jlibosva | #topic Starter Approved RFEs | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Starter Approved RFEs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:18 | |
| mlavalle | zhangyanxian: will take a look | 14:19 |
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| jlibosva | sorry for confusion | 14:19 |
| hichihara | I already commented. | 14:19 |
| zhangyanxian | Thanks | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | As far as starter blueprints | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | we still have one available: | 14:19 |
| jlibosva | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1653932 | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1653932 in neutron "[rfe] network router:external field not exported" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | these are RFEs good for new contributors | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | if you have time and interest on increasing your knowledge of Neutron, please jump in | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | I think that's it | 14:21 |
| jlibosva | ok, let's move to the next topic then | 14:21 |
| jlibosva | #topic bugs | 14:21 |
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| mlavalle | armax was last week's bugs deputy | 14:22 |
| jlibosva | armax was the deputy for previous week? | 14:22 |
| jlibosva | :) | 14:22 |
| jlibosva | he doesn't seem online | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | I didn't see an email with update | 14:22 |
| jlibosva | I don't see any critical bug that would be reported in the last 7 days | 14:23 |
| jlibosva | the only one marked high is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1735724 | 14:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1735724 in neutron "Metadata iptables rules never inserted upon exception on router creation" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 14:23 |
| jlibosva | and that's already assigned | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | right | 14:23 |
| jlibosva | so seems like we're good here? | 14:24 |
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| mlavalle | we are in the capable hands of haleyb | 14:24 |
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| jlibosva | there are 7 bugs that are "undecided" though | 14:24 |
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| mlavalle | unless he want to comment | 14:24 |
| haleyb | yes, i am working on that, there's a couple of things going on | 14:24 |
| jlibosva | most of them are a few hours old so I guess they will be triaged by deputy this week | 14:25 |
| jlibosva | by Swami | 14:25 |
| jlibosva | and there was no bug reported with gate-failure tag so I think we can move to the next topic | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:26 |
| jlibosva | #topic Docs | 14:26 |
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| jlibosva | boden: hi! :) | 14:26 |
| boden | hi | 14:26 |
| jlibosva | boden: do you have any updates regarding docs? | 14:26 |
| boden | just 2 FYIs quick | 14:26 |
| boden | doc retention policy; mitaka docs are back and now working on ocata build specific URLs | 14:27 |
| boden | the openstack-docs specfic ML is now closed; use openstack-dev with [docs] | 14:27 |
| boden | that’s what I have :) | 14:27 |
| jlibosva | boden: thanks | 14:27 |
| jlibosva | any questions anybody? | 14:28 |
| jlibosva | I guess not | 14:28 |
| jlibosva | #topic Transition to OSC | 14:28 |
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| jlibosva | amotoki: hi, do you want to give updates? | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | probably not around either. too late for him | 14:29 |
| jlibosva | seems like amotoki is not here | 14:29 |
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| jlibosva | he is usually online at this hour :) | 14:30 |
| jlibosva | let's move on | 14:30 |
| mlavalle | true | 14:30 |
| jlibosva | #topic neutron-lib | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | night owl | 14:30 |
| jlibosva | boden: hello again :) | 14:30 |
| boden | hi | 14:30 |
| boden | there are a handful of reviews in the queue that could use some eyes, but I was hoping to call attenention to a few that specifically could use some core feedback | 14:31 |
| boden | we don’t have to discuss them here, but just to get them on the radar | 14:31 |
| boden | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525342/ adds the ability for api-defs to specify custom exceptions for validation | 14:31 |
| boden | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523471/ rehomes to the quotas api def and is the first in a series of api defs that would require us to statically define resource attr maps for extensions that build them dynamically.. others that do this include; tagging, standardattrdescription, etc. | 14:32 |
| boden | and finally there's a discussion in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522311/ regarding where attribute extensions for sub-resource should live | 14:33 |
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| boden | so if folks to try to take a peek at those sometime in the future that’d be helpful.. I’d like to queue up a release of neutron-lib, but we need to get some patches landed first | 14:33 |
| boden | that’s what I have, unless there are comments | 14:33 |
| jlibosva | boden: thanks for updates | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | thanks for the update. I'll try to chime in this week | 14:34 |
| jlibosva | I'll leave some time if somebody wants to ask a question or comment | 14:34 |
| jlibosva | seems like there are none :) | 14:35 |
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| jlibosva | #topic On demand agenda | 14:35 |
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| jlibosva | does anybody have a topic to discuss here? | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | I have one | 14:35 |
| jlibosva | stage is yours | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | unfortunatelly, davidsha and ralonsoh have been reassigned by Intel to priorities ither than OpenStack and Neutron | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | we thank them for all their efforts in Neutron | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | and wish them good luck | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | thanks folks for all your contributions, you will be missed | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | in the meantime, I will be reshuffling the bugs deputy rotation | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | because they were scheduled next week and the one after | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | I also have one thing | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | just a reminder that we're almost done migrating our tempest tests to neutron-tempest-plugin repo - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506672/ | 14:39 |
| jlibosva | so soon, you won't find the bits in neutron repo anymore | 14:39 |
| jlibosva | that's all | 14:39 |
| hoangcx_ | mlavalle: I am waiting for your help on VPNaaS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506012/. Hope to get your time on it to be able to continue. | 14:39 |
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| mlavalle | hoangcx_: I was just looking at it | 14:40 |
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| mlavalle | I'll review it slowly over the next couple of days | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | and I also asked armax to take a look a few days ago | 14:40 |
| hoangcx_ | mlavalle: ++ Wow. Thank you very much :) | 14:41 |
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| jlibosva | anybody has anything else to discuss here? | 14:41 |
| hoangcx_ | mlavalle: I need to get PTL action/help with inclusion patch. That's all from me | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | ack | 14:42 |
| jlibosva | unless anybody has anything else then we can get some precious time back | 14:42 |
| jlibosva | I just want to say that I looked at google maps at the PTG location and it seems there is a railway right next to the venue so those who attended in Denver can get some memories back | 14:43 |
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| jlibosva | thanks everybody for coming :) | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | ahhh, it's a tradition now | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 14:43 |
| slaweq_ | :) | 14:43 |
| bcafarel | :) | 14:43 |
| jlibosva | #endmeeting | 14:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 5 14:43:51 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-12-05-14.00.html | 14:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-12-05-14.00.txt | 14:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-12-05-14.00.log.html | 14:43 |
| annp | thanks | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | jlibosva: thanks for your great facilitation | 14:44 |
| jlibosva | it's always a pleasure :) | 14:44 |
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| slaweq_ | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 5 15:00:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:00 |
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| slaweq_ | hello | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | o/ | 15:00 |
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| slaweq | I think we will wait few minutes for other people | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | cool | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | I'll be back in a couple of minutes | 15:01 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: sure | 15:01 |
| davidsha | In a meeting but I'll try to keep up! | 15:01 |
| slaweq | hi davidsha :) | 15:01 |
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| davidsha | Hi! | 15:02 |
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| slaweq | reedip: are You around? | 15:02 |
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| slaweq | ok, I think we can start | 15:04 |
| slaweq | #topic RFEs | 15:04 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:04 |
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| slaweq | last time when I checked this one, old patch was abandoned | 15:05 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh will not continue this work for sure so maybe we should mark it as unassigned and find someone else | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 15:05 |
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| slaweq | ok, so it's unassigned for now - maybe there will be someone interested | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | my impression is that we need to go through all the RFEs and reasses priorities | 15:06 |
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| slaweq | ok, we will go through it now | 15:06 |
| slaweq | there is not too many of them | 15:06 |
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| slaweq | next one | 15:07 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:07 |
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| slaweq | it's very similar problem here | 15:08 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh was working on it | 15:08 |
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| slaweq | but he will not be able to finish specs for nova and neutron: | 15:08 |
| slaweq | Nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502306/ | 15:08 |
| slaweq | Neutron: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508149/ | 15:08 |
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| slaweq | I think we should also unassign him from it | 15:09 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: what You think? | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | yes | 15:09 |
| slaweq | ok, done | 15:09 |
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| slaweq | ok, next one | 15:10 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596611 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596611 in neutron "[RFE] Create L3 IPs with qos (rate limit)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:10 |
| slaweq | this one is much better | 15:10 |
| slaweq | server side patch is merged | 15:11 |
| slaweq | agent side patch waits for review: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521079/ | 15:11 |
| slaweq | I was reviewing it already | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | yeah, we are in good shape here | 15:11 |
| slaweq | but I also want to test it locally so I just deployed devstack with it and I will test it | 15:11 |
| slaweq | there is also OSC patch for that: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517845/ | 15:12 |
| slaweq | so please review it in meantime | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | and expect another patch with docs | 15:12 |
| slaweq | yes but it's not in review yet AFAIK | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | no, he hans't pushed it yet | 15:12 |
| slaweq | but I think this one can be finished in Queens :) | 15:13 |
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| slaweq | and the last one | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | 'yes | 15:13 |
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| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1692951 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1692951 in neutron "[RFE] DSCP mark on the outer header" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Ali Sanhaji (ali-sanhaji) | 15:13 |
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| slaweq | patch is still in review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501267/ | 15:14 |
| slaweq | and it looks like there is nothing happen on it since some time | 15:14 |
| slaweq | AFAIR it was (almost) done already | 15:14 |
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| slaweq | is author of this patch around? | 15:15 |
| slaweq | do You know his IRC nickname? | 15:15 |
| fouadben | hi, its nike name is alisanhaji | 15:16 |
| slaweq | thx fouadben | 15:16 |
| slaweq | so it looks that he isn't here now | 15:16 |
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| slaweq | I will try to catch him and talk about this one | 15:17 |
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| slaweq | #action slaweq will talk with alisanhaji about help on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1692951 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1692951 in neutron "[RFE] DSCP mark on the outer header" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Ali Sanhaji (ali-sanhaji) | 15:18 |
| slaweq | that's all RFEs which I have for today | 15:18 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: there is also one not approved yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649517 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649517 in neutron "qos policy attached to network, qos_policy_id is reflecting on neutron net-show , but not on the port with neutron port-show" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | how about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508149/ | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | I think it is up for discussion in the drivers meeting | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | I was looking at it last Thursday | 15:20 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes it is, I hope it will be discussed this week :) | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | I think we will get to it this week | 15:20 |
| slaweq | about Your question, specs which You ask for is for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] | 15:20 |
| slaweq | which was assigned to ralonsoh | 15:21 |
| slaweq | but he will not be able to continue this as he told me | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | well, I would like to continue with that | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | not necessarily this cycle | 15:21 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: that would be great | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | but for h next one | 15:21 |
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| mlavalle | we need to wait for the Nova guys anyway | 15:21 |
| slaweq | "h next one"? it will be few years I think ;) | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | so I'll assign it to me, with the unserstanding that it will be for next cycle | 15:22 |
| slaweq | ok, thx a lot | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 15:22 |
| slaweq | anything else to add about RFEs? | 15:23 |
| slaweq | or we can go forward? | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | let's move one | 15:24 |
| slaweq | ok | 15:24 |
| slaweq | #topic Bugs | 15:24 |
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| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1662109 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662109 in neutron "tempest scenario test_qos fails intermittently" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:24 |
| armax | hi | 15:25 |
| slaweq | to be honest I didn't check it last few weeks and I don't know if it is still an issue | 15:25 |
| slaweq | hi armax | 15:25 |
| armax | I was deputy during last week | 15:25 |
| armax | I don’t have a formal report to share | 15:25 |
| slaweq | I think You are late one hour as now it's qos meeting :) | 15:25 |
| armax | but I managed to stay on top of all the bugs that came in | 15:25 |
| armax | oh shoot | 15:25 |
| armax | :) | 15:25 |
| armax | sorry | 15:26 |
| slaweq | but You are welcome here also | 15:26 |
| armax | I see the same people :) | 15:26 |
| slaweq | neutron meeting was one hour ago | 15:26 |
| armax | that’s ok I am like in 3 meetings at once, I was only going to make a short appearance :) | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | armax: LOL | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | you are 1 hour late | 15:26 |
| armax | :( | 15:26 |
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| mlavalle | but still we enjoy your company | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | so please stay armax | 15:27 |
| slaweq | LOL | 15:27 |
| armax | eh | 15:27 |
| slaweq | so, about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1662109 I think I will have to check if it still happens | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662109 in neutron "tempest scenario test_qos fails intermittently" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:28 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq check if https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1662109 is still an issue in the gate | 15:28 |
| slaweq | next one is also related to failing tests: | 15:28 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1733649 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1733649 in neutron "fullstack neutron.tests.fullstack.test_qos.TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs.test_dscp_marking_packets(openflow-native) failure" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:28 |
| slaweq | and I am also assigned to it | 15:28 |
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| slaweq | I was checking agent and server logs from such failed run and I didn't found anything wrong there | 15:29 |
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| slaweq | I suspect that it can be "changed" tcpdump output and it not match regex in https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/common/agents/l2_extensions.py#L121 | 15:30 |
| slaweq | so I added there log line and I want to monitor and check logs once again if it will happen again | 15:30 |
| slaweq | unless someone has got maybe any other idea about that :) | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | it's a good idea | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | the tcpdump change merged yesterday, right? | 15:32 |
| slaweq | today morning | 15:32 |
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| slaweq | (my morning) | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | it might be my yesterday | 15:32 |
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| slaweq | yes | 15:32 |
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| slaweq | ok, next one | 15:33 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1676877 | 15:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1676877 in neutron "Increase "TestQosPlugin.test_update_policy_rule" coverage" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 15:33 |
| slaweq | reedip is doing that | 15:33 |
| slaweq | but it's not going too fast | 15:33 |
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| slaweq | reedip is probably not here now so we will don't have any update from him | 15:34 |
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| mlavalle | maybe ask in the bug? | 15:34 |
| slaweq | I think I should first review proposed patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456773/ | 15:35 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456773/ | 15:35 |
| slaweq | next one | 15:36 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1726732 | 15:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1726732 in neutron "[qos]set running vms ingress-bandwidth-limit, then delete running vm,but ovs queue is still residual" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Zachary Ma (mazengxie) | 15:36 |
| slaweq | patch for this one is in review: | 15:36 |
| slaweq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515566/ | 15:36 |
| slaweq | please look at this one | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | I remember that one | 15:36 |
| slaweq | for me it looks good now | 15:36 |
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| mlavalle | I think it is close to merge | 15:36 |
| slaweq | I hope so | 15:37 |
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| mlavalle | Ihar made some comments last week, I believe | 15:37 |
| slaweq | but I think that all are already addressed | 15:37 |
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| slaweq | there is fullstack test added to it also | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | will take a look | 15:38 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:38 |
| slaweq | so moving on | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | it could be the first patch you merge tomorrow | 15:38 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: maybe :) | 15:38 |
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| slaweq | next one | 15:38 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1730605 | 15:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1730605 in neutron "neutron qos bindlimit by ovs is not accurate" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Zachary Ma (mazengxie) | 15:39 |
| slaweq | this one also has got patch made by Zachary | 15:39 |
| slaweq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519573/ | 15:39 |
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| slaweq | IMHO this patch is good as this is covered by functional tests | 15:39 |
| slaweq | garyk wants some unit tests for it also so maybe author will need to add some tests there | 15:40 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: would be good if You could look also on this one | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | yes | 15:40 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:40 |
| slaweq | next one | 15:41 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1639186 | 15:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639186 in neutron "qos max bandwidth rules not working for neutron trunk ports" [Low,Confirmed] | 15:41 |
| slaweq | this one is not easy to fix | 15:42 |
| slaweq | and I don't think it will be fixed soon :/ | 15:42 |
| slaweq | it is not assigned to anyone currently | 15:42 |
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| mlavalle | what is the issue? | 15:42 |
| slaweq | rate limit for trunk ports doesn't work | 15:43 |
| slaweq | it is because "internal" port types are used for trunk ports | 15:43 |
| slaweq | and QoS is not working on "internal" ports | 15:43 |
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| slaweq | and it also not works on patch ports | 15:43 |
| slaweq | sorry, patch ports are used for trunk and this is exactly reason of this issue | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | ahh, ok | 15:44 |
| slaweq | so there was proposal to use veth instead of patch ports but armax have got arguments against it | 15:44 |
| slaweq | and there should be some other solution found | 15:45 |
| slaweq | so, next one | 15:46 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1724729 | 15:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1724729 in neutron "ovs-lib not support qos type egress-policer for ovs-dpdk" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:46 |
| slaweq | for this one I have patch already: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513398/ | 15:46 |
| slaweq | please review it | 15:46 |
| slaweq | and thx davidsha for Your review of it as DPDK expert | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | yes, it shows up in my radar screen | 15:46 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: thx | 15:46 |
| davidsha | Np! | 15:47 |
| slaweq | and the last one | 15:47 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1732852 | 15:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1732852 in neutron "neutron don't support Router gateway rate limit " [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:47 |
| slaweq | this one is "tricky" | 15:47 |
| slaweq | I proposed patch which changed documentation to say that it will work on router gateway port only if "ovs_use_veth" will be set to True | 15:48 |
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| slaweq | the reason is the same as for trunk ports - rate limiting don't work on "internal" ports | 15:48 |
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| slaweq | Ihar wants to talk about it and maybe do something like force ovs_use_veth to be true if QoS is enabled but I didn't check yet how it could be done | 15:49 |
| slaweq | do You have any idea how it could be fixed maybe? | 15:50 |
| mlavalle | nope | 15:50 |
| slaweq | so currently it's only mentioned in docs what should be done to make it work | 15:50 |
| slaweq | IMHO it is the best "workaround" of this issue | 15:51 |
| slaweq | but I'm not sure now if there will be no same issue for FIP QoS also | 15:51 |
| slaweq | I want to check it on devstack locally | 15:51 |
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| slaweq | anyone has something to add? | 15:52 |
| slaweq | or we are moving on? | 15:52 |
| mlavalle | nothing from me | 15:52 |
| slaweq | ok, so that was all bugs related to QoS | 15:53 |
| slaweq | #topic Open Discussion | 15:53 |
| slaweq | anyone wants to talk about something? | 15:53 |
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| slaweq | I don't have anything | 15:53 |
| mlavalle | yesterday I received a request from Zachary | 15:54 |
| mlavalle | to be added to the Neutron busg team | 15:54 |
| mlavalle | which I granted | 15:54 |
| slaweq | he is doing many things related to QoS in last weeks | 15:54 |
| mlavalle | since you, slaweq are closer to his time zone, would you ask him if he can be added to the bugs deputy rotation? | 15:55 |
| mlavalle | and let me know | 15:55 |
| slaweq | sure I will try to catch him tomorrow and will ask | 15:55 |
| slaweq | no problem | 15:55 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 15:55 |
| mlavalle | that's all I had | 15:55 |
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| slaweq | so I think we are done and we have few minutes back :) | 15:56 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:56 |
| mlavalle | next meeting is on the 19th, correct? | 15:56 |
| slaweq | right | 15:56 |
| mlavalle | ack | 15:56 |
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| slaweq | ok, I think there is nothing more to add | 15:57 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:57 |
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| slaweq_ | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 5 15:58:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-12-05-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-12-05-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-12-05-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 5 16:00:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| ihrachys | what's up! | 16:00 |
| jlibosva | o | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:00 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, you came bare hands? | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | :) | 16:01 |
| slaweq_ | hi | 16:01 |
| jlibosva | :] | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:01 |
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| ihrachys | "ihrachys to disable connectivity fullstack tests while we look for culprit" | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | and | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | "ihrachys to disable dscp qos fullstack test while we look for culprit" | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | both merged | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/523517 and https://review.openstack.org/523518 | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | I was thinking about backporting but that will require to first backport the decorator. do we want to go this way? | 16:02 |
| jlibosva | I don't think it should be a priority | 16:02 |
| jlibosva | I'd try to stabilize master and then think about stable branches | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | next is | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | "jlibosva to look at test_securitygroup(linuxbridge-iptables) failure in fullstack" | 16:04 |
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| ihrachys | that was some "test_securitygroup(linuxbridge-iptables) with RuntimeError: Process ['ncat', u'20.0.0.11', '3333', '-w', '20'] hasn't been spawned in 20 seconds" failure | 16:04 |
| jlibosva | I need more time for both. There was no obvious failure so I'm trying to reproduce | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | ack | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | I assume second you mean "jlibosva to look at test_securitygroup(linuxbridge-iptables) failure in fullstack" | 16:05 |
| jlibosva | the reason it wasn't spawned might be that it uses tcp connection and that couldn't be established | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | eh | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | "jlibosva to look at test_l2_agent_restart fullstack failure" | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | ok next was "ihrachys to disable legacy jobs for neutron master" | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | that's for tempest api / scenario jobs | 16:05 |
| jlibosva | I briefly looked at that one too but will still need more time. I suspect that 20 seconds might not be enough to restart all agents and come back | 16:05 |
| jlibosva | in previous debugging, we saw it took 30 seconds to just start an agent, so it could be a clue | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | ack | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | for legacy jobs, we merged this: https://review.openstack.org/523514 | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | disabling them for master | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | and we even landed the patch cleaning up tempest in-tree test classes (we will discuss that later), so it works fine | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | those were all action items we had so far | 16:07 |
| jlibosva | regarding that | 16:07 |
| jlibosva | it seems we still have a legacy api job in gate Q | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | hm... where? | 16:07 |
| jlibosva | don't we need this as well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521349/ ? | 16:08 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, that would merge after we move the jobs into stable branches | 16:08 |
| jlibosva | at the gate report from removing the in-tree tempest but if you want to talk about that later, we can discuss that later | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | Miguel is working on it | 16:08 |
| jlibosva | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506672/ | 16:08 |
| jlibosva | aah, ok, sorry | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | but still it seems the api job is there ^^ | 16:09 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, oh that's ouch | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, maybe it's still voting in gate | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | I may have killed it in check queue only | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | I will follow up on it | 16:09 |
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| jlibosva | ack | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | thanks | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | I don't really know what is going on :) | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to make sure legacy tempest jobs are gone in gate queue | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | thanks for the notice! | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | ahhh, that explains why I saw it last night | 16:10 |
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| ihrachys | I will figure it out | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:10 |
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| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | I gotta wash my eyes. I can't see scenarios at 100% | 16:11 |
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| jlibosva | I don't see it at all | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | oh I think that's because they are gone | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | because of project-config change | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | I forgot to update grafana | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | meh, I suck | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to update grafana for new non-legacy job names | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | it sounded too good to be true right! | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | :) | 16:13 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 16:13 |
| mlavalle | it's not xmas yet | 16:13 |
| jlibosva | but at least you get that good feeling for a short time :) | 16:13 |
| jlibosva | lol | 16:13 |
| mlavalle | lol | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | ok so other than that, fullstack that we'll have a closer look now | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | #topic Fullstack | 16:14 |
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| ihrachys | fullstack goes sideways in 60-80% failure rate range | 16:14 |
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| ihrachys | we have quite some fullstack related bugs | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=fullstack&orderby=status&start=0 | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | 14 total | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | some are not gate-failures of couse | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | let's walk through them | 16:15 |
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| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1728948 | 16:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1728948 in neutron "fullstack: test_connectivity fails due to dhclient crash" [High,New] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar) | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | I believe that's one of ton of bugs that jlibosva is looking into | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | I guess it should be Confirmed since we see it all the time | 16:16 |
| jlibosva | I should be looking at it, I haven't yet :) | 16:16 |
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| ihrachys | it shouldn't affect gate now right? | 16:16 |
| jlibosva | yeah, confirmed makes snese | 16:16 |
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| jlibosva | I don't know, I would expect it affects other tests using dhcp | 16:17 |
| jlibosva | it might be an issue with the dhclient script I copied from dhclient repo | 16:17 |
| slaweq_ | maybe we should set all other tests to not use dhcp? | 16:17 |
| jlibosva | I need to dig deeper | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | but I mean, we disabled the tests with the decorator | 16:18 |
| jlibosva | were those the only tests using dhcp? | 16:18 |
| jlibosva | I need to check | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | ok. anyway, seems like you will have more after you look closer. | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1733649 | 16:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1733649 in neutron "fullstack neutron.tests.fullstack.test_qos.TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs.test_dscp_marking_packets(openflow-native) failure" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | slaweq_, I think you made some progress there. can you brief us on where it stands? | 16:19 |
| jlibosva | maybe test_dhcp_agent will also be affected | 16:19 |
| slaweq_ | yes | 16:19 |
| slaweq_ | so I couldn't reproduce it locally | 16:19 |
| slaweq_ | I pushed patch with some additional logs but it was also fine each time when I rechecked | 16:19 |
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| slaweq_ | I was also checking logs from failed jobs and for me everything on L2 agent and server side looks fine | 16:20 |
| slaweq_ | I suspect that it can be issue with tcpdump output which don't match regex for some reason | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | good. I think you can put it on backburner and we will wait when it triggers your log message. | 16:20 |
| slaweq_ | so there is already merged patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525156/ which adds logging of tcpdump | 16:20 |
| slaweq_ | sorry but what is backburner? | 16:21 |
| mlavalle | leave it aside for a while | 16:21 |
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| mlavalle | it's an expression | 16:21 |
| slaweq_ | ah, ok :) | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | thanks mlavalle, I should have known not to use it :) | 16:21 |
| slaweq_ | so yes, I will wait now for such failed test and will check it then | 16:21 |
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| ihrachys | there was an old https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1687074 but I am not sure if it is still an issue | 16:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1687074 in neutron "Sometimes ovsdb fails with "tcp:127.0.0.1:6640: error parsing stream"" [High,Confirmed] | 16:22 |
| slaweq_ | I will remember it now, sorry for my english :) | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, you suspect latest ovsdbapp may have it fixed? | 16:23 |
| jlibosva | I saw it very recently | 16:23 |
| jlibosva | let's check logstash | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | with the newest library? | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | yeah I see it lately | 16:24 |
| jlibosva | that's what I'm not sure | 16:24 |
| jlibosva | maybe it was today :) | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | in master | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | this is q: http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message%3A%5C%22error%20parsing%20stream%5C%22 | 16:24 |
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| ihrachys | most of hits are successes though | 16:25 |
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| ihrachys | for what I understand, we get random crap from ovsdb socket there | 16:26 |
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| jlibosva | I can't see one in fullstack though | 16:26 |
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| ihrachys | it would be nice to see full contents of socket when it happens | 16:27 |
| jlibosva | all the failures come from functional tests | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, yeah that's true | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | hm | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | eventlet? | 16:27 |
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| jlibosva | but I'm 100% I saw it recently in fullstack | 16:27 |
| jlibosva | *sure | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | though in fullstack, we also patch test runner and agents, and functional test runner should be patched too, so it is probably the same from eventlet perspective | 16:28 |
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| ihrachys | otherwiseguy, are you around | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | ok let's move on but otherwiseguy feel free to reply later | 16:30 |
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| ihrachys | I think we may need otherwiseguy on that bug since it seems rather close to ovsdbapp | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | next is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1673531 | 16:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1673531 in neutron "fullstack test_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigkill(GRE and l2pop,openflow-native_ovsdb-cli) failure" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 16:31 |
| jlibosva | agreed | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | I haven't made any progress since the last time here. need more time. | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1721796 | 16:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721796 in neutron "wait_until_true is not rootwrap daemon friendly" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar) | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | (I skip Wishlist bugs) | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, is that one still valid with new oslo.rootwrap? | 16:32 |
| * jlibosva ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 16:32 | |
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| jlibosva | is the new rootwrap already released, bumped and used? | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | yes | 16:33 |
| jlibosva | ok, I'll keep an eye on this one | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | in master for sure. | 16:33 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, ok. I would close and revisit if it pops up again. :) | 16:33 |
| jlibosva | problem is that there is no easy string to check | 16:33 |
| jlibosva | sounds good | 16:33 |
| slaweq_ | as I'm checking fullstack results quite often I will also be aware of this one | 16:34 |
| jlibosva | thanks | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1487548 | 16:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1487548 in neutron "fullstack infrastructure tears down processes via kill -9" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | I totally forgot about that one | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | I had a primitive test patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499803/ | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | but there is some work to do there | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | making sure that if a process doesn't die gracefully we still kill it forcefully | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | honestly though, I may not get on that one in next weeks. shouldn't be a high priority. | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | maybe even deserves Wishlist | 16:37 |
| jlibosva | agreed | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | since nothing is broken | 16:37 |
| slaweq_ | ihrachys: I can help on this one if You want | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | ok I moved to wishlist | 16:37 |
| jlibosva | also I think we already have a code that sends 15 and if it doesn't exit, it does 9 | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | slaweq_, nah I think if you have cycles on fullstack it's better to e.g. help jlibosva with two issues he already tracks | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, not for all agents I believe | 16:38 |
| slaweq_ | ok | 16:38 |
| jlibosva | I mean that the functionality is implemented :) | 16:38 |
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| ihrachys | yeah. ok, I will have another look, maybe it already works as needed. | 16:38 |
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| ihrachys | I think we have enough work to do not to look through a recent log | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | I have one more thing regarding fullstack | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | shoot | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | so I saw we are getting timeouts .. I think that's cause we have way too many jobs | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | one way to simplify testing matrix would be eliminating the ovsdb and openflow interfaces | 16:41 |
| jlibosva | we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503076/ | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | oh well. yeah, it fell through cracks... :) | 16:42 |
| jlibosva | and we can do similar to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506713/ with openflow I think | 16:42 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: do you plan to work on that one or maybe we could find somebody to continue the work | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | there was some environment setup dependency on cli that I couldn't immediately figure out before I was distracted | 16:43 |
| jlibosva | I think we should also prioritize that one to q3 | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | having someone looking into it instead of me would definitely help :) | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | iwamoto asked about status so maybe he would be interested | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | also I am interested :) | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | another thing | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | I thought about improving fullstack by putting the environment building to class level, so env will be built for all tests in a class just once | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, ok I commented in gerrit that IWAMOTO can take it over | 16:45 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: thanks | 16:45 |
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| jlibosva | that can also save some time | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | like tempest? | 16:46 |
| jlibosva | and last thing - it takes time to create the DB, we can have something like an empty DB dump that would fill the DB with tables instead of using alembic | 16:46 |
| jlibosva | right, like tempest | 16:46 |
| mlavalle | good ideas jlibosva | 16:47 |
| jlibosva | the DB dump would need to be regenerated on each model changes, similarly to updating head hash | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, sharing env may affect stability, if there is some cross dependency. but it's worth a try. | 16:47 |
| jlibosva | should I file rfes against fullstack or wishlist bugs? | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, you suggest to check in dump in git? | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, wishlists are fine I believe; rfes are for user visible changes. | 16:47 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: yes, dump with empty tables | 16:47 |
| jlibosva | ack, thanks | 16:48 |
| jlibosva | I'll try to write something down | 16:48 |
| jlibosva | I had this in my head for a while | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to post wishlist bugs for fullstack improvements (reuse db dump; reuse env per class) | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | let's briefly look at tempest plugin since we have little time | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | #topic Tempest plugin | 16:49 |
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| ihrachys | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-tempest-plugin-job-move | 16:49 |
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| ihrachys | so as I learned today, I need to clean up gate from legacy before we can land the patch removing tempest code from neutron tree | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | assuming it's done, grafana is fixed, and neutron tempest code is dropped; what are next steps. | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | chandankumar, ^ | 16:50 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: we need to fix the plugins | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | I believe one vector is moving those legacy jobs for stable branches and then removing them in project-config / openstack-zuul-jobs / ... | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | chandankumar, which plugins. you mean for stadium projects? | 16:51 |
| chandankumar | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-tempest-plugin-job-move | 16:51 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: sorry | 16:51 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: since we have now working neutron tempest plugin, we need to think about stadium projects having intree tempest plugin | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | there are two in the list - midonet and dynamic-routing | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | others are not stadium and I would not waste time on fixing them. interested parties can chime in. | 16:52 |
| mlavalle | how about networking-sfc? | 16:52 |
| chandankumar | what about neutron-vpnaas and dynamic routing | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | vpnaas is in not stadium | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | dynamic-routing, I mentioned it already | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, it's not in the list. I assume it means it's fine. chandankumar correct? | 16:53 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: yup | 16:53 |
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| mlavalle | bcafarel was asking about it a few weeks ago | 16:53 |
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| ihrachys | chandankumar, do you plan to respin for comments, or we should find owners from subprojects to take over the patches? | 16:54 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: yup i need to respin the patches | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | ok feel free to ask for help if needed | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, as for your patches moving / removing jobs, where are we on those? | 16:54 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: just blocked on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521346/ | 16:54 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: I created this one for master: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525345/ | 16:55 |
| chandankumar | if you check the last comment, we are blocked on how to install neutron tempest plugin | 16:55 |
| chandankumar | so that we can it in ci, other reviews are similar | 16:55 |
| mlavalle | I am thinking that maybe I should break it in pieces | 16:55 |
| chandankumar | some of them does not have devstack plugin | 16:55 |
| chandankumar | mlavalle: ihrachys https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:switch_to_neutron_tempest_plugin+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 16:56 |
| mlavalle | one for fullstack, one for functional and maybe one for linuxbrdge | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | chandankumar, having it in a single place (the new tempest plugin repo) would be the best no? | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | then you would just include the plugin in the job | 16:56 |
| mlavalle | and one for the rest | 16:56 |
| mlavalle | otherwise, the chances of a job failing are high | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, is it because you have more work to do on some of those? if not, I think a single piece is fine. | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | ok, fine | 16:57 |
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| ihrachys | mlavalle, oh you mean the fact that it blows up the gate size? | 16:57 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: you mean one devstack plugin for neutron tempest plugin? | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | chandankumar, yes | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | I think that's what yamamoto suggested | 16:57 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: sure i will look into that tomorrow | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | well, those jobs tend to fail frequently | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | chandankumar, thanks! | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | so one single patch might be difficult to merge | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, yeah I get your point now. some are not voting like fullstack so probably doesn't matter as much. | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | ok, cool | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | so next step is to create the dependent patches for the other repos | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | let's split indeed. especially api / scenarios since you will need to backport the rest but not those into stable | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | to remove the jobs from there | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | and then backport as you mention | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | that's the update in this regard | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | we don't have time to discuss scenarios in details | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | I will just drop here a link to the patch that should fix linuxbridge flavor: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523319/ | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | please review :) | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | and... that's it for today | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | I will update in channel regarding fip scenrio test | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | thanks folks for working on the most boring things in neutron project! you are superheroes. :) | 17:01 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 5 17:01:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 5 18:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| lbragstad | #link https://hangouts.google.com/call/-WQa70V_B5iL-Tw3jiSqAAEE | 18:00 |
| * kmalloc sleeps. | 18:00 | |
| lbragstad | retrospective ^ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | link | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/b/jrpmDKtf/keystone-retrospective | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | retrospective board ^ | 18:01 |
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| lbragstad | henrynash: o/ | 18:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:01 |
| knikolla | o/ | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | #link https://hangouts.google.com/call/-WQa70V_B5iL-Tw3jiSqAAEE retrospective hangout | 18:01 |
| henrynash | hi | 18:01 |
| spilla | o/ | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/b/jrpmDKtf/keystone-retrospective retrospective board | 18:01 |
| cmurphy | running a little late | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125178.html for those who didn't see it yet | 18:02 |
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| lbragstad | feel free to join on the hangout for the retrospective | 18:03 |
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| lbragstad | thanks for coming to the retrospective! | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:43 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-12-05-18.00.html | 18:43 |
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| clarkb | anyone here for the infra meeting? | 19:00 |
| ianw | yes | 19:00 |
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| jeblair | o/ | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 5 19:01:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| fungi | ahoy mateys | 19:01 |
| dmsimard | \o | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| frickler | o/ | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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| pabelanger | o/ | 19:02 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 19:02 |
| clarkb | The way I organized the agenda I didn't plan for this to be an announcement but it totally is. I've asked dmsimard and frickler to join us as infra roots. We'll be using the virtual sprint for control plane upgrade to onboard them and go through what that all entails | 19:02 |
| clarkb | welcome and I at least am very excited to have additioanl help :) | 19:02 |
| pabelanger | welcome! | 19:03 |
| clarkb | we will get into details for virtual control plane upgrades later | 19:03 |
| clarkb | er virtual sprint | 19:03 |
| jeblair | dmsimard, frickler: condolences^Wcongrats! :) | 19:03 |
| dmsimard | yay | 19:03 |
| dmsimard | Thanks :D | 19:04 |
| clarkb | we should see patches up for adding users/keys soon I expect and we can merge those as a prep step for the virutal sprint | 19:04 |
| fungi | thanks dmsimard and frickler!!! | 19:04 |
| fungi | your (hopefully continued!) assistance is much appreciated | 19:04 |
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| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-11-28-19.00.txt Minutes from last meeting | 19:05 |
| clarkb | there was an action to email about the jenkins user being removed from the gerrit CI group but I think we determined that gerrit doesn't remove the preexisting votes from chagnes afterall? | 19:05 |
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| jeblair | ya, seems like an announcement would be underwhelming and unecessary in that case | 19:06 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ any thing you want to add to that? or are we good to just treat it as unnecessary? | 19:07 |
| fungi | not really, i started looking into scripting vote removal from active changes | 19:07 |
| fungi | it wouldn't be hard, but maybe a little consensus on whether it's worth doing would help | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | zuul will currently handle them properly. That leaves reviewers as the primary target I guess? | 19:08 |
| fungi | there's at least an api call we can use to delete a reviewer (and thus their vote) from a change, so i can iterate over open changes with existing verify -1 from the jenkins user fairly easily | 19:08 |
| fungi | something like 5k changes when i queried last week | 19:08 |
| fungi | that seems high | 19:09 |
| fungi | maybe it was more like 2.5k? | 19:09 |
| fungi | i'd have to dig it out of the channel log | 19:09 |
| clarkb | if we can help make reviewers' lives easier it is probably worth doing | 19:09 |
| clarkb | as is I think gerrit will show a -1 if jenkins -1'd but Zuul +1'd when viewing changes in the list view | 19:09 |
| fungi | yeah, i mean other than a couple hours (probably) of my machine iterating in a loop it's only a few minutes of effort | 19:09 |
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| fungi | it will, however, in recent gerrits like the version we're running, leave a comment on each of them, and thus trigger zuul to process that event | 19:10 |
| fungi | so maybe i should do it during a quiet-ish period | 19:10 |
| clarkb | seems reasonable | 19:11 |
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| pabelanger | agree | 19:12 |
| fungi | #action fungi delete jenkins account -1 verify votes from open changes in gerrit and announce it | 19:12 |
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| jeblair | a fun weekend activity! | 19:12 |
| fungi | indeed | 19:12 |
| clarkb | ok moving on because the next topic is a fun one | 19:13 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:13 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524024/ Top level project hosting | 19:13 |
| clarkb | I don't expect that this spec is ready for approval, but it is a fairly important one and getting eyeballs on it would be a good thing | 19:13 |
| jeblair | this is still pretty new -- i only posted it last week | 19:13 |
| mordred | o/ - sorry I'm late | 19:13 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya mostly want to call attention to it for reviewing | 19:14 |
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| jeblair | but i've been trying to point people at it | 19:14 |
| fungi | it's good to have the reminder--it's a really big change for us conceptually as well as technically | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | yup the tl;dr is how do we change the things we do to better serve non openstack project hosting | 19:14 |
| jeblair | i don't want to rush things such that we make bad decisions, but i'd also like to move forward as quickly as possible | 19:15 |
| clarkb | we have for a long time hosted non openstack projects but its always been fairly tightly coupled to the openstack brand and such | 19:15 |
| fungi | related, the kata containers community was officially announced to news outlets today, and we have a temporary lists.katacontainers.io server we'd like to fold into a common server with the lists for our other communities | 19:15 |
| jeblair | yeah, ^ means this is already happening to some extent | 19:16 |
| pabelanger | so, would kata containers fall into this spec? | 19:16 |
| fungi | yup | 19:16 |
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| clarkb | pabelanger: yes | 19:16 |
| pabelanger | as I understand it, they are only using github.com right now | 19:16 |
| fungi | that will probably be a relatively minor import, though i did build lists.k.i using xenial to make sure our puppetry is working (so that upgrading lists.o.o is less of a wildcard for the upcoming sprint) | 19:16 |
| pabelanger | okay cool | 19:17 |
| dmsimard | FWIW we might want to consider *moving* their repos as far as github is concerned instead of "importing" them | 19:17 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: I think thats where they have been and so are comfortable there, but have said they will work with us to make zuul and nodepool work for their needs (which will expose them to gerrit and maybe we can convert them >_>) | 19:17 |
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| dmsimard | I had to ask github support to redirect github.com/dmsimard/ara to github.com/openstack/ara when I got the repository created | 19:18 |
| dmsimard | github handles redirectories over git clone and http properly when it's a move | 19:18 |
| dmsimard | s/redirectories/redirects/ | 19:18 |
| fungi | yeah, i would wait for the dust to settle a little on the kata side before we expect them to start engaging with us on ci-related workflow questions | 19:18 |
| dmsimard | (wow) | 19:18 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: there are weird technical problems with that iirc | 19:18 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: yah, I was mostly curious where the line was for admin acccess to that org in github, not sure if we (-infra) manage that, or some other team | 19:18 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: like you have to be an admin of both sides | 19:18 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: I would assume it would be -infra | 19:18 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: the foundation has not seen fit to require new projects to use gerrit, so it's not clear to me that any moving/importing/whatever will happen there | 19:18 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: huh, the initiating party can initiate the transfer without being admin on the other side iirc | 19:19 |
| dmsimard | anyway, if it's important github support can fix that | 19:19 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: I don't think those things have been decided yet | 19:19 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: good point | 19:19 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: but probably good feedback for the spec especially if we want to have an opinion on it | 19:19 |
| fungi | jbryce mentioned in #openstack-tc that there's potential interest in the kata community using more of our ci infrastructure, but yeah it's not been positioned as a requirement afaik | 19:19 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: yah, I can add some comments around it for git servers section | 19:19 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: and if they use gerrit, would they end up using the review.openstack.org (openstack branded) gerrit ? sorry, don't meant to fork the discussion | 19:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: I think if the project uses gerrit then infra needs admin on their github org for sure ... | 19:20 |
| clarkb | mordred: well we've also talked about decoupling infra completely from github in other places iirc | 19:20 |
| clarkb | and individual projects would be responsible for their own mirroring if that is something they want | 19:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: we might need it anyway so we can manage and deal with the zuul github app ... but I do think we should make it clear that for anyone existing more strongly on github we're NOT in the business of doing admin tasks on github orgs other than zuul app and replication-from-gerrit | 19:20 |
| clarkb | (I do think it is worth writing down what our perspective on the needs is though) | 19:20 |
| jeblair | if kata is able to be a project on github and not use our infrastructure, then it's clear it isn't subject to the tc, which is where we derive our authority to impose consistency. so, for the moment at least, i see this as an effort to create a welcoming community that projects can choose to collaborate in. | 19:21 |
| fungi | dmsimard: for services we can't make cleanly multi-domain (e.g. gerrit) the current proposal mostly punts but i would personally like to do a hitless transition to a non-encumbered domain name as the primary hostname for stuff like that | 19:21 |
| mordred | oh - nevermind - I was thinking about hook errors, but those are on the github app, not on the org using it - so we don't actuallyneed admin there for that | 19:21 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 19:21 |
| jeblair | fungi: yes, clarkb mentioned something like that in a comment. i haven't responded yet, but my thought is: yes, we should move all hosting to a non-openstack branded domain, and this spec is forward-compatible with that. | 19:22 |
| jeblair | i'm happy to add a pgraph to that intent to the spec | 19:22 |
| dmsimard | There's still the OpenStack logo at the top left but that's a detail :) | 19:22 |
| fungi | dmsimard: some possible names for the common infrastructure have been floated in the past, but i would rather not muddy the current proposal with an inevitable name-choosing bikeshed | 19:22 |
| clarkb | jeblair: that would be nice to make sure we don't do anything that conflicts with that | 19:22 |
| * dmsimard nods | 19:23 | |
| fungi | dmsimard: we would presumably do some rebranding of the interface in general to un-openstack it | 19:23 |
| clarkb | jeblair: basically here is the desireable end state, we don't need to get there in this spec but lets make sure we don't conflict with it either | 19:23 |
| jbryce | personally, i don't think you have to scrub every reference to openstack even for separate projects. just like there are apache.org references for ASF projects that are not http server | 19:23 |
| jeblair | yep. i think it will take more effort to get there, but we can get kata and zuul on on a path that will converge with that by doing these things now. | 19:23 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ++ | 19:23 |
| fungi | jbryce: i agree, it'll be a tactical choice as to which ones are important to do that with and which ones might be nice to have if we ever get around to them | 19:24 |
| jeblair | jbryce: agree -- and some of these things (lists / git servers) have more of a branding impact than others (code review, ci hosting), so best to focus on the big fish. | 19:24 |
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| fungi | yeah, primary focus is to stop scaring potential users of the product, secondary focus is to stop scaring potential developers for it | 19:25 |
| jeblair | fungi: heh, s/scaring/confusing/ maybe? but yeah. :) | 19:25 |
| fungi | well, really primary is to stop confusing marketers and pundits ;) | 19:25 |
| fungi | but yes | 19:25 |
| jeblair | i've started working on implementing the mailing list portion -- mostly because it requires the largent amout of unknown (to me) work. | 19:26 |
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| clarkb | do we think it would be worthwhile to get kata's input on the spec? | 19:27 |
| jeblair | that will help us keep things moving while we revise the spec, and if i run into any problems, we can change course early | 19:27 |
| clarkb | I worry that it may be information overload for them, but may be valuable to have their input too as they are probably a primary early consumer | 19:27 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, i think so. even if they say "we only care about lists for now" it would be good to start opening lines of communication | 19:27 |
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| fungi | getting anyone's input is cool, and input from the kata community can't hurt, but it's also a lot of building things we know we need in such a way that we hope some of it will be useful to various new communities the foundation takes on | 19:28 |
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| clarkb | jbryce: ^ maybe you can point them at the spec? | 19:28 |
| jbryce | clarkb: yep. happy to | 19:28 |
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| jbryce | they're pretty slammed right now, but i can also just try to get their feedback this week while some of them are in austin and then i will bring it back to the spec | 19:28 |
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| jeblair | and if they have questions about what it all means, i'm happy to walk through it over email or something, by way of introducing them to our community. | 19:29 |
| jeblair | (what is an infra-spec and what does it mean?) | 19:29 |
| jbryce | also, just fyi, on the github org, we made sure that some foundation people have admin rights there as a start. i think the rest of it will be worked out along the way | 19:29 |
| jbryce | jeblair: awesome. thanks! | 19:29 |
| clarkb | anything else we want to add while we are here? | 19:31 |
| jeblair | maybe we can pencil in the idea of getting it ready to vote by next week? | 19:31 |
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| clarkb | we can make that the goal. Will the vast majority of us have time to review it in a weeks time? | 19:31 |
| fungi | jeblair: that seems fine. maybe aggressive but the sooner the better in my opinion | 19:31 |
| clarkb | (I can) | 19:31 |
| fungi | i'll set aside time to go back over it again | 19:32 |
| clarkb | lets aim for that and do our best to review it before then | 19:32 |
| jeblair | ping me if you leave a comment and i'll respond faster -- also happy to chat about it in irc if you have questions that don't fit as review comments. | 19:32 |
| clarkb | #agreed review project hosting spec this week so that we can bring it up for approval votes next week | 19:33 |
| clarkb | (if you strongly disagree with that please speak up) | 19:33 |
| clarkb | or disagree at all I guess | 19:33 |
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| clarkb | alright we do have other items on the meeting agenda so lets keep this moving | 19:34 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | are there any zuul v3 items we want to bring up? those that were on the agenda from last week were all addressed over the last week I think | 19:35 |
| jeblair | i don't think there's much to say here, other than we merged a bunch of branch-related fixes which are all in production as of friday | 19:35 |
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| clarkb | #topic General topics | 19:36 |
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| clarkb | I'd like us to commit to a virtual sprint for control planes upgrade today if possible. Holidays and travel and all that stuff are appraoching quickly and getting this out of the way will make life easier for everyone | 19:37 |
| clarkb | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/mz3gyl7kn62d | 19:37 |
| clarkb | based on the table at ^ I think either next week or the first week of the yaer are looking like our best options | 19:37 |
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| pabelanger | I plan to finish up the audit of our servers and list them out at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-sprint-xenial-upgrades | 19:38 |
| clarkb | do we think doing this next week is too soon from a planning perspective? | 19:38 |
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| pabelanger | I don't think next week leaves much time to schedule long lived server upgrades, but not sure atm what that is | 19:39 |
| clarkb | I think my preference would be to do it next week so that we have an early start and can pick up the crumbs later in the month as necessary | 19:39 |
| dmsimard | how many servers are we talking about ? only seeing 20 logstash workers so far | 19:39 |
| pabelanger | for that, I am leaning towards R-8 | 19:39 |
| dmsimard | is that a complete list ? | 19:39 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: ya I'm beginning to think we do what we can next week in a big push, then based on what we learn from that (systemd etc) we can properly schedule the hard ones | 19:39 |
| fungi | i'm up for hitting the easy stuff next week and if we have to delay some harder ones which need announcing we can push them off to a later week | 19:39 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: manifest/site.pp gives a good overview, but I'll finish up the list today | 19:39 |
| dmsimard | Are we suspecting that some things might not be possible, for example our current version of logstash on xenial ? | 19:40 |
| dmsimard | pabelanger: ack | 19:40 |
| fungi | which is basically what we did for the trusty upgrades too (hit the parallel and/or cookiecutter servers first, save the hard ones for last) | 19:40 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: yah, if we want to do the easy ones in R-11, then harder in R-8, that works | 19:40 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: what's your x/2 on r-10 mean? | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | dmsimard: I expect we will find some things don't work (I don't think that is one of them) mostly related to runtime versions and systemd | 19:40 |
| pabelanger | fungi: yup! | 19:40 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: yeah I just came up with a dummy example. I guess the first step is to test a fresh deployment on xenial before we start reinstalling things :D | 19:41 |
| clarkb | jeblair: my parents arrive in town mid week r-10 so I will be in and out | 19:41 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I will be around just maybe not the best for focused sprint work | 19:41 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: last time we did this, I think I upgraded about 45 servers in the week, from trusty to xenial. that was logstash, elastic-search, etc | 19:41 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: ya we tend to do new installs on new servers then migrate data as necessary and update dns | 19:41 |
| dmsimard | ack | 19:41 |
| clarkb | so we make sure things work before we switch over | 19:42 |
| pabelanger | I think wiki.o.o / wiki-test.o.o is going to be a harder one, we still need to get that enrolled back in to puppet, right? | 19:42 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: ya there will definitely be more difficult servers but I also don't think we need to get them done during the sprint to consider it a success | 19:42 |
| clarkb | sprint is good for knocking out the 80% cases and making progress and learning | 19:42 |
| dmsimard | +1 | 19:43 |
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| ianw | yeah they were unpuppeted when i did the backup server | 19:43 |
| fungi | pabelanger: not so much enrolled "back" in puppet, that server has never been configured using the puppet-mediawiki module | 19:43 |
| clarkb | with that in mind what do we think about starting next week like fungi suggests | 19:43 |
| clarkb | frickler: dmsimard ^ would that work for you? | 19:44 |
| fungi | pabelanger: there's a stalled effort (which i haven't found time to get back to) for building a working mediawiki server with the puppet-mediawiki module and moving our data into it | 19:44 |
| ianw | (btw the backup puppet could do with some automation re: deploying keys etc ... could be good part of this) | 19:44 |
| dmsimard | I purposefully didn't pick up much in my $job "sprint" which ends next friday so I should be okay. I'll hurry up and finish the stuff I need to this week. | 19:44 |
| Shrews | i can pitch in next week | 19:45 |
| frickler | next week isn't optimal for me, but I'll see what I can arrange | 19:45 |
| fungi | speaking of stalled upgrades, i got stuck trying to rebuild the subunit-worker server on xenial. i need to revisit that and see if i can recall where it's broken but i think it had to do with python dependency resolution complexity | 19:45 |
| frickler | need to discuss time of day then, too | 19:46 |
| clarkb | frickler: yes, I don't mind staying up late or waking early to sync up with you. I think dmsimard is already awake at all hours | 19:46 |
| dmsimard | lol | 19:46 |
| jeblair | frickler: what's your tz? | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | what do we want to do about infracloud? it is still Trusty, I am assuming we just let it live out its days now? | 19:46 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: thats sort of my opinion on it. Trusty is alive until april 2019 | 19:47 |
| frickler | UTC+1, but I don't mind staying up late for a bit | 19:47 |
| dmsimard | I'm eastern time zone (UTC -5 right now?) | 19:47 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: yah | 19:47 |
| dmsimard | I guess 18.04 is bound to ship with queens too. | 19:47 |
| clarkb | frickler: I think if you can arrange time that works for you let us know and I will likely be able to make room for it | 19:48 |
| fungi | i too am in utc -5 and can try to make a point of being up early-ish (for me anyway) next week | 19:49 |
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| dmsimard | I'm usually online no later than 2PM UTC | 19:49 |
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| fungi | frickler: i think yolanda and rcarrillocruz are in your tz; also ianw and jhesketh may also have some overlap with you | 19:49 |
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| fungi | it'll be afternoon for them during your morning | 19:50 |
| ianw | yeah, afternoons / evenings for me cross with utc | 19:50 |
| ianw | i'll presume myself / jhesketh (if available) can mostly take on evening support for anything that's not quite working out or taking too long | 19:51 |
| frickler | sounds like we will be working 24x7, then ;) | 19:51 |
| clarkb | frickler: ya :) | 19:51 |
| pabelanger | yah, we should also book #openstack-sprint for the week | 19:51 |
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| pabelanger | worked well last time | 19:52 |
| clarkb | how does this sound #agreed Next week, R-11, virtual sprint to upgrade control plane and onboard new roots. Dmsimard and frickler can work with existing infra-roots to schedule times that work for paired rooting ? | 19:52 |
| fungi | wfm | 19:52 |
| frickler | +1 | 19:52 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ++ pabelanger: ++ | 19:52 |
| clarkb | frickler: I expect between fungi and ianw and myself we can half a follow the sun sort of setup for you | 19:52 |
| dmsimard | +1 | 19:52 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 19:52 |
| ianw | ++ | 19:52 |
| clarkb | and dmsimard I expect to just be awake at all hours too :) | 19:52 |
| dmsimard | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 19:53 |
| clarkb | beacuse seriously I see him on irc before I wake up and after I go to sleep | 19:53 |
| fungi | he's got some strong coffee apparently | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | #agreed Next week, R-11, virtual sprint to upgrade control plane and onboard new roots. Dmsimard and frickler can work with existing infra-roots to schedule times that work for paired rooting | 19:53 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: can you reserve the irc channel? | 19:53 |
| dmsimard | kids aren't self sufficient yet, gotta feed them in the morning and send them to school :D | 19:53 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: will do | 19:53 |
| clarkb | I had a couple other items I wanted to discuss but they are low prioriry and we are almost out of time so ... | 19:54 |
| clarkb | #topic open discussion | 19:54 |
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| jlvillal | Review request: https://review.openstack.org/520297 Add clickable CRITICAL link in log files. Has one +2 at the moment. | 19:54 |
| jlvillal | :) | 19:54 |
| ianw | didn't we do that? | 19:54 |
| jlvillal | ianw: You did the +2 ;) | 19:54 |
| clarkb | seems like I've reviewed some variation of this | 19:54 |
| clarkb | I'll take a look | 19:54 |
| jlvillal | clarkb: It is a follow-up to the first patch | 19:54 |
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| jlvillal | I missed adding the link :( | 19:55 |
| ianw | oh, let's do that and also there's that dragonflow one out there | 19:55 |
| ianw | https://review.openstack.org/520320 | 19:55 |
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| clarkb | I can review both of those | 19:57 |
| jlvillal | Thanks | 19:58 |
| ianw | ok, we determined it deployed from master, so testing == checking after puppet :) | 19:58 |
| clarkb | ya | 19:58 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2017-December/002541.html mentions plans to focus the 2018 opendev event on ci/cd (that's us!) | 19:58 |
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| fungi | i'll have to make sure i arrange to attend that one | 19:59 |
| clarkb | would be good to find out when they roughly plan to host it | 19:59 |
| fungi | yup, jbryce will almost certainly keep us all posted | 20:00 |
| jlvillal | If anyone wants to see how pretty a CRITICAL log message looks like: http://logs.openstack.org/13/525713/1/check/ironic-tempest-dsvm-ipa-partition-uefi-pxe_ipmitool-tinyipa/b98dcf8/logs/screen-ir-api.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 20:00 |
| clarkb | was september this year | 20:00 |
| jeblair | fungi: that link doesn't work for me | 20:00 |
| jeblair | fungi: derp, nevermind | 20:00 |
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| jeblair | user error :) | 20:00 |
| clarkb | and that is it for time. Thank you everyone | 20:00 |
| fungi | the best kind of error | 20:00 |
| clarkb | you can find us in #openstack-infra | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 5 20:00:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-12-05-19.01.html | 20:01 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-12-05-19.01.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-12-05-19.01.log.html | 20:01 |
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