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| mkrai | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 03:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mkrai. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| mkrai | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2017-12-19_0300_UTC Today's agenda | 03:00 |
| mkrai | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| mkrai | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
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| kiennt26 | o/ | 03:02 |
| kiennt26 | hi | 03:02 |
| mkrai | Hi kiennt26 | 03:03 |
| mkrai | Thank you for joining the meeting | 03:03 |
| mkrai | It seems we are only two in the meeting | 03:03 |
| mkrai | Let's have a short update from both of us | 03:03 |
| mkrai | kiennt26: Would you like to go first? | 03:03 |
| kiennt26 | mkrai: yeah, ok. | 03:04 |
| mkrai | Thank you | 03:04 |
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| kevinz | o/ | 03:04 |
| kiennt26 | last week, i have worked on blueprint Use privsep | 03:04 |
| kiennt26 | hi kevinz | 03:04 |
| mkrai | Hi kevinz | 03:04 |
| kevinz | sorry I'm late | 03:04 |
| mkrai | I am glad you're here today | 03:04 |
| kevinz | Hi kiennt26 mkrai | 03:04 |
| kiennt26 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511430/ | 03:04 |
| mkrai | kiennt26: is giving an update now | 03:04 |
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| kevinz | OK | 03:04 |
| kiennt26 | mkrai, kevinz: I have proposed a patch to implement blueprint use-privsep | 03:05 |
| kiennt26 | the above link, could you test and review it? :) | 03:05 |
| mkrai | kiennt26: Thank you for it | 03:05 |
| mkrai | Yes sure I will review it | 03:06 |
| kevinz | kiennt26: I will review too:-) | 03:06 |
| mkrai | kiennt26: Anything else from your side? | 03:06 |
| kiennt26 | My 2nd work is publishing Zun-tempest-plugin's documentation. The patch was landed. | 03:06 |
| kiennt26 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527886/ | 03:06 |
| mkrai | Great. With that the migration is completed I assume? | 03:07 |
| kiennt26 | mkrai: yeah, i think :) | 03:07 |
| kiennt26 | That's all from me last weak. | 03:07 |
| mkrai | kiennt26: Thank you | 03:08 |
| mkrai | kevinz: Would you like to provide an update? | 03:08 |
| kevinz | yeah sure | 03:08 |
| kevinz | I'm working on volume attach for capsule. Now the function is finished. I will submit a patch after fix some UT error | 03:09 |
| mkrai | kevinz: I saw that the multi-attach support is merged in Nova now | 03:09 |
| mkrai | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125356.html | 03:09 |
| mkrai | That might help you | 03:10 |
| kevinz | mkrai: Good news. I will follow this | 03:10 |
| kevinz | mkrai: Now only support one attach | 03:10 |
| kevinz | in zun | 03:10 |
| mkrai | kevinz: Great | 03:10 |
| kevinz | also I'm looking at virtual-kubelet | 03:11 |
| kevinz | https://github.com/virtual-kubelet/virtual-kubelet | 03:11 |
| kevinz | which we can use with kubernetes-connector | 03:11 |
| mkrai | #link https://github.com/virtual-kubelet/virtual-kubelet | 03:11 |
| mkrai | I don't know much about it | 03:12 |
| mkrai | How is it used with k8s-connector? | 03:12 |
| mkrai | And then zun? | 03:12 |
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| kevinz | This project will make ACI or AWS as the kubernetes backend | 03:13 |
| kevinz | So the same with Zun. We can use this project to register a node in Kubernetes. | 03:13 |
| mkrai | That node is an Openstack node? | 03:13 |
| kevinz | in general, make zun cluster as a single node in Kubernetes | 03:14 |
| mkrai | Ok got it | 03:14 |
| kevinz | The node is K8s node. | 03:14 |
| mkrai | kevinz: If possible, I would like to have a diagram for this support | 03:14 |
| mkrai | That will make things easier to understand | 03:14 |
| mkrai | How k8s, zun, k8s-connector all are connected sort of diagram | 03:15 |
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| kevinz | OK, I will compile one after meeting :-) | 03:15 |
| kiennt26 | mkrai: +1 | 03:15 |
| mkrai | Great. Thank you for this kevinz :) | 03:15 |
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| mkrai | I will mark an action for it | 03:16 |
| kiennt26 | kevinz: looking for it, thank you! | 03:16 |
| mkrai | kevinz: Is it ok? | 03:16 |
| kevinz | mkrai: kiennt26: my pleasure | 03:16 |
| kevinz | That's all from my side | 03:16 |
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| mkrai | #action kevinz to create a diagram explaining the k8s-connector feature | 03:16 |
| mkrai | kevinz: Thank you for all your hard work :) | 03:16 |
| mkrai | Ok so my turn now! | 03:16 |
| kevinz | mkrai: yw | 03:16 |
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| mkrai | So I have been working on the clear container support in ZUn | 03:17 |
| mkrai | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499534/ | 03:17 |
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| mkrai | Now that there is new Kata containers, the patch is in question | 03:18 |
| mkrai | I posted a comment saying that this can be merged for now and later replace with kata containers | 03:18 |
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| mkrai | Kata containers will take time to be ready | 03:18 |
| mkrai | I also posted a patch to add a document on how to use CC with Zun | 03:18 |
| mkrai | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527611/ | 03:19 |
| mkrai | I will update this patch today | 03:19 |
| mkrai | So that's all I did last week | 03:19 |
| mkrai | Any questions on the same? | 03:19 |
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| kiennt26 | mkrai, kevinz : Zun-tempest-plugin still 404. | 03:20 |
| kiennt26 | I have pushed a patch to fix it | 03:20 |
| kiennt26 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527851/ | 03:20 |
| kevinz | mkrai: Not yet. Maybe come up with some questions after review the patch | 03:20 |
| mkrai | kiennt26: Ok I will review it | 03:20 |
| mkrai | I guess this is critical patch | 03:21 |
| mkrai | kevinz: Thank you! | 03:21 |
| kevinz | kiennt26: me too | 03:21 |
| kiennt26 | mkrai, kevinz : thank you :) Hope this patch will fix our problem. | 03:21 |
| kevinz | mkrai: yw | 03:21 |
| mkrai | kiennt26: sure, Thank you! | 03:22 |
| mkrai | Anything else to discuss? | 03:22 |
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| kiennt26 | Nothing from me. | 03:22 |
| kevinz | That's all from my side | 03:22 |
| mkrai | Ok thank you all for joining the meeting :) | 03:22 |
| mkrai | See you next week! | 03:22 |
| mkrai | #endmeeting | 03:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 03:23 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 19 03:23:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-12-19-03.00.html | 03:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-12-19-03.00.txt | 03:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-12-19-03.00.log.html | 03:23 |
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| tpatil | samP: Ping? | 04:01 |
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| samP | hi | 04:01 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo : Hi | 04:01 |
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| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: hi | 04:01 |
| tpatil | samP: Hi | 04:01 |
| samP | could you please start the meeting | 04:01 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:02 |
| tpatil | #startmeeting Masakari | 04:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 04:02:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:02 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Hi all | 04:02 |
| rkmrHonjo | Hi. sorry, I left this meeting at 13:45. | 04:02 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: Hi | 04:02 |
| samP | Hi all, | 04:02 |
| rkmrHonjo | s/left/leave/ | 04:02 |
| tpatil | #topic High priority items | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High priority items (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:02 | |
| samP | sorry for long absent | 04:02 |
| tpatil | samP: How was your vacation? | 04:03 |
| samP | tpatil: It was good, but too busy | 04:03 |
| samP | with family | 04:03 |
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| rkmrHonjo | haha | 04:04 |
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| tpatil | samP: That must be fun | 04:04 |
| tpatil | No high priority item for discussion | 04:05 |
| samP | yeh..kind of | 04:05 |
| tpatil | moving ahead | 04:05 |
| tpatil | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 04:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:05 | |
| tpatil | No new bugs reported in LP | 04:05 |
| tpatil | #topic Discussion points | 04:07 |
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| tpatil | Horizon Plugin | 04:07 |
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| tpatil | Niraj has proposed initial cookie cutter patch | 04:07 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528647/ | 04:07 |
| tpatil | Zulu jobs Is failing, he will fix this problem | 04:08 |
| tpatil | s/zulu/zuul | 04:08 |
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| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:08 |
| tpatil | Install guide document (in progress) | 04:08 |
| tpatil | All patches were merged, I will delete this topic from agenda in the next meeting | 04:09 |
| samP | except masakari-monitors | 04:09 |
| samP | I will review that soon | 04:09 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: thanks. | 04:09 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:operators_guide | 04:09 |
| tpatil | sorry, I will mention this point in the agenda then | 04:09 |
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| samP | Are those docs are hosted in public? | 04:10 |
| tpatil | Recovery method customization | 04:10 |
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| tpatil | smaP: you mean, similar to this one https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/unreleased.html | 04:11 |
| samP | tpatil: yes. | 04:12 |
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| samP | is that automated or do we have to do something? | 04:12 |
| samP | tpatil: sorry, I mean here vv | 04:13 |
| samP | #link https://docs.openstack.org/queens/ | 04:13 |
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| tpatil | samP: Not sure, maybe it requires some additional changes | 04:14 |
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| tpatil | as I don't see Masakari project is listed here https://docs.openstack.org/queens/admin/ | 04:14 |
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| samP | tpatil: true. let's check what else we have to do to host them on docs.openstack.org | 04:16 |
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| tpatil | Anyone interested to find out this info? | 04:16 |
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| samP | #link https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/release.html | 04:17 |
| samP | I guess me or someone in release team have to do it. | 04:18 |
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| samP | For now I will take this task.. | 04:18 |
| tpatil | samP: thank you | 04:18 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: thanks. | 04:18 |
| tpatil | #action : samP will submit a patch to publish masakari documentation release | 04:19 |
| tpatil | Recovery method customization | 04:19 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458023/ | 04:19 |
| tpatil | Please review the specs | 04:20 |
| samP | tpatil: sure I will | 04:20 |
| tpatil | Queens Work Items | 04:20 |
| tpatil | I don't see there are any changes in the work items | 04:21 |
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| tpatil | Ansible support for Masakari | 04:21 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor will work on this item. No progress yet | 04:22 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | I am working on this. Soon I will let you know my findings. | 04:22 |
| samP | Really sorry that I was not able to publish sample masakari playbooks before I go to vacation. | 04:23 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: Thank you | 04:23 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: tpatil: I will do it soon | 04:23 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | samP: No problem, Thank you | 04:23 |
| tpatil | Call Force down API when host-failure will be notified | 04:23 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526598/ | 04:24 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thank you for reviewing. But, I have question. I'll write it on gerrit after that.(Sorry, I don't finished to confirm nova codes yet.) | 04:25 |
| rkmrHonjo | s/finished/finish/ | 04:25 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: OK | 04:25 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks. | 04:26 |
| tpatil | samP: Do you want to discuss about BM HA (ironic + nova)? | 04:26 |
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| samP | tpatil: No progress. sorry | 04:27 |
| tpatil | #topic AOB | 04:27 |
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| tpatil | Migrate from launchpad to Storyboard | 04:27 |
| tpatil | No progress yet | 04:28 |
| samP | tpatil: For my best understanding, no community wide movement for this item | 04:28 |
| tpatil | Anyone has anything else for discussion? | 04:28 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:28 |
| samP | tpatil: yep, about PTG | 04:29 |
| samP | I am not sure whether I can attend to this PTG | 04:30 |
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| samP | How many of you going there? and I think session dead line is closed or very near now | 04:31 |
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| samP | I will check for session and room availability at PTG | 04:32 |
| tpatil | Dinesh and I will attend PTG | 04:32 |
| samP | tpatil: OK | 04:32 |
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| samP | or we could have a virtual mid-cycle meetup | 04:32 |
| samP | Let's discuss this on ML | 04:33 |
| tpatil | samP: Sure | 04:33 |
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| tpatil | If there is no topics left for discussion, let's end this meeting | 04:35 |
| samP | nothing from my side | 04:36 |
| rkmrHonjo | me too. | 04:36 |
| tpatil | Thank you, All | 04:36 |
| samP | tpatil: thank you for handling the meeting | 04:36 |
| tpatil | #endmeeting | 04:36 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Thank you all | 04:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 19 04:36:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-12-19-04.02.html | 04:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-12-19-04.02.txt | 04:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-12-19-04.02.log.html | 04:36 |
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| tpatil | samP: No problem | 04:36 |
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| chenying | #startmeeting karbor | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 09:01:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chenying. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: karbor)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'karbor' | 09:01 |
| chenying | hi | 09:01 |
| jiaopengju | hi | 09:02 |
| jiaopengju | hi chenying | 09:02 |
| chenying | hi | 09:02 |
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| chenying | There is no topic today. Do you have any topic want to discuss? | 09:02 |
| jiaopengju | no yet :) | 09:03 |
| chenying | #topic Open Discussion | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: karbor)" | 09:03 | |
| chenying | I have release karbor python-karborclient karbor-dashborad a new version in queens cycle. | 09:03 |
| chenying | I plan to release them to 1.0.0 version at the end of this cycle. | 09:04 |
| jiaopengju | good job | 09:04 |
| chenying | Thanks. | 09:04 |
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| chenying | You also do a good job. | 09:04 |
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| jiaopengju | I am struggling with openstack ansible :( | 09:05 |
| jiaopengju | I will ask more help from ansible group | 09:06 |
| jiaopengju | To ensure we can finish this job before the end of this cycle | 09:07 |
| chenying | We may need ask for helps from other guys. | 09:07 |
| chenying | Sound good. | 09:07 |
| chenying | I have submitted all the patches about json schema. | 09:07 |
| jiaopengju | nice :) | 09:07 |
| chenying | Next step, we may need pay more attention to bugfix. | 09:08 |
| jiaopengju | it seems we have step 2 of json schema | 09:08 |
| jiaopengju | remove the original validation? | 09:09 |
| chenying | Yes. I will submit a patch about it. | 09:09 |
| jiaopengju | ok | 09:09 |
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| chenying | So all guys in karbor team did great job in queen cycle. Lots of bp and features have been finished in this sycle. | 09:11 |
| chenying | we may need do some work about bugfix, doc, api example in the next step | 09:12 |
| jiaopengju | yes, the doc and api examples are really needed to update | 09:13 |
| chenying | Yes. | 09:15 |
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| chenying | If we don't have any more topic to discuss, so I will end this meeting. We can discuss in karbor irc channel? | 09:15 |
| jiaopengju | ok | 09:15 |
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| chenying | #endmeeting | 09:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 09:23 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 19 09:23:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-12-19-09.01.html | 09:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-12-19-09.01.txt | 09:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-12-19-09.01.log.html | 09:24 |
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| jlibosva | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 14:00:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | Hello friends | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:00 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 14:00 |
| hichihara | hi | 14:00 |
| boden | howdy | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:01 | |
| mlavalle | howdy boden, from Texas | 14:01 |
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| jlibosva | We're now working towards Q3 milestone | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html#q-3 | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | the date is set to Jan 25 | 14:02 |
| annp | hi | 14:02 |
| jlibosva | this is the last meeting in 2017 as there won't be a meeting next week on Dec 25 | 14:02 |
| * mlavalle will send a message to the ML | 14:03 | |
| jlibosva | I see you put it to agenda :) so I'm going according it | 14:03 |
| slaweq | hello | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | next announcement is rather a reminder to not forget to register for the PTG | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 14:03 |
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| jlibosva | and those were all announcements from me or wiki page | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | does anybody want to announce anything? | 14:04 |
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| hichihara | When does meeting of 2018 start? Jan 2? | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | yes | 14:04 |
| hichihara | I got it | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | I will indicate that in the message to the ML | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | might be a slow one, though | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | we need to make sure as I think the meetings are based on even and odd weeks | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | jlibosva: ahhh, right | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | so depending what is this week :) | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | it's 51 | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | so I guess mlavalle was right, it's Jan 2 | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | yeah, so we can resume on Januay 2nd | 14:06 |
| bcafarel | so week 1 should be on Tuesday :) | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | yes | 14:06 |
| annp | :) | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | ok, thanks :) anything else? | 14:06 |
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| jlibosva | let's jump to blueprints then | 14:07 |
| jlibosva | #topic Blueprints | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:07 | |
| jlibosva | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/queens-3 | 14:07 |
| jlibosva | does anybody have anything related to blueprints? any issues or blockers? | 14:08 |
| annp | For logging, I'd like to change entry point of logging plugin | 14:08 |
| annp | from "logapi" to "log" | 14:08 |
| jlibosva | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528977/ ? | 14:08 |
| amotoki | sorry for interrupt. the week of Dec 25 2017 is ISO week 52, and the week of Jan 2 2018 is ISO week 1, so we will have regular rotation of even/odd. | 14:09 |
| annp | Could you please have a look? | 14:09 |
| amotoki | "ncal -w -3" helps me | 14:09 |
| annp | Jlibosva: yes. | 14:09 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: I think that's correct. That means we have odd week now and we'll start with odd week, no? | 14:09 |
| amotoki | jlibosva: right | 14:10 |
| amotoki | jlibosva: most years has 52 ISO weeks | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: thanks for bringing this up | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | regarding the patch from annp - do we have any promise towards trunk chasers we should keep compatibility in the master or we good to change it? | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | by me the patch is fine but maybe there is some policy? | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | IMO, we can change | 14:11 |
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| annp | jlibosva, mlavalle, thanks. :) | 14:12 |
| jlibosva | ok, now we need to decide whether it's logging or just log :) | 14:12 |
| amotoki | +1 to change. even if there are trunk chasers, the feature is not complete | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: you got it | 14:12 |
| annp | amotoki: +1 | 14:13 |
| jlibosva | ok, seems like we have an agreement here | 14:13 |
| jlibosva | any other blueprints need attention? | 14:13 |
| annp | jlibosva: thanks | 14:14 |
| jlibosva | it seems there are none so let's move on | 14:14 |
| jlibosva | #topic Starter Approved RFEs | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Starter Approved RFEs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:14 | |
| jlibosva | there is one RFE at the wiki | 14:14 |
| jlibosva | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1653932 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1653932 in neutron "[rfe] network router:external field not exported" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 14:14 |
| jlibosva | if you feel like working on rfe, this is a very good candidate | 14:15 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: do you want to add anything to this rfe? | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | you did great. Thanks! | 14:15 |
| jlibosva | ok, let's move on then | 14:16 |
| jlibosva | #topic Bugs | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:16 | |
| jlibosva | slaweq sent out the bug deputy report to ML | 14:16 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125718.html | 14:16 |
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| slaweq | yes, if You want me to add something, just ask :) | 14:17 |
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| jlibosva | sounds like there is nothing burning there at this point, right? | 14:17 |
| slaweq | it looks so | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | there was a critical bug last week, I think | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | hang on | 14:18 |
| slaweq | but there was few which I need help on prioritize | 14:18 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: i updated the review after some testing | 14:18 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: there was high for sure: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1738612 | 14:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1738612 in neutron "Floating IP update breakes decomposed plugins" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Gary Kotton (garyk) | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | I was talking about the one haleyb pointed out | 14:19 |
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| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520249/ | 14:19 |
| haleyb | bug 1732294 | 14:19 |
| openstack | bug 1732294 in neutron "Probable DOS in linuxbridge" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1732294 - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 14:19 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: but it wasn't reported last week :) | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: thanks! | 14:20 |
| haleyb | that required a lot of extra work to deal with restarts since it left stale chains and rules around | 14:20 |
| haleyb | of course there are no existing tests... :( | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: are you planning to add tests? | 14:21 |
| haleyb | is it fixed if we don't add tests? :) i'll try to add some unit tests quickly | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | Thanks :-) | 14:22 |
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| HoloIRCUser2 | O/ | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: thanks for the great report! | 14:22 |
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| jlibosva | slaweq++ :) | 14:23 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: jlibosva: you welcome :) | 14:23 |
| jlibosva | next week seems like yamamoto is a bug deputy but let's nope we won't get many reports over the holidays :-p | 14:23 |
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| jlibosva | #topic Docs | 14:24 |
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| jlibosva | boden: hi :) | 14:24 |
| * mlavalle will keep fingers crosssed | 14:24 | |
| boden | hi, nothing new on the docs front | 14:24 |
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| jlibosva | alright :) thanks, we can move fast today | 14:25 |
| jlibosva | #topic OSC | 14:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSC (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:25 | |
| jlibosva | amotoki: hi :) | 14:25 |
| amotoki | I think VPNaaS OSC support is ready for review | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | ah great | 14:25 |
| amotoki | VPNaaS is being back to the stadium thoguh the governance patch merge faield due to the docs jobs :( | 14:26 |
| jlibosva | congrats to all involved getting it back :) | 14:26 |
| amotoki | VPNaaS OSC support and log support are good candidates for queens client. | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | that's hoangcx_, yamamoto and others | 14:27 |
| amotoki | if there are any other client support for queens, let us know here. | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: do you have the links handy? | 14:27 |
| amotoki | vpnaas: https://review.openstack.org/439978 | 14:27 |
| amotoki | log support https://review.openstack.org/409819 | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 14:28 |
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| amotoki | that's all from me this week | 14:28 |
| jlibosva | wow, the log patch celebrated one year birthday recently :) | 14:28 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: thanks for updates | 14:28 |
| amotoki | any bot to celebrate an anniversary of a patch? :) | 14:29 |
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| mlavalle | that's a good idea, LOL | 14:29 |
| jlibosva | lol | 14:29 |
| jlibosva | ok, moving to the next topic | 14:30 |
| jlibosva | which is | 14:30 |
| jlibosva | #topic neutron-lib | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "neutron-lib (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:30 | |
| jlibosva | boden: hi again :) | 14:30 |
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| boden | hi | 14:30 |
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| boden | so nothing new from last time… I would like to mention that we haven’t landed any lib patches in quite some time; a month or so | 14:31 |
| boden | I wonder if we shouldn’t consider expanding the +1W rights on lib | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | boden: I will take a look this week on neutron-lib patches | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | I will make a point of reviewing at least once a week | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | let's do that for a few weeks | 14:33 |
| boden | mlavalle: ack thanks… but I think longer term we need more than just you reviewing from a +W perspective | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 14:33 |
| amotoki | I tend to agree expanding +W right of neutron-lib is worth considered. | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | I agree | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | I didn't mean I was opposing that | 14:33 |
| boden | whats the right forum to discuss that?? an RFE? | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | do you have candidates in mind? | 14:34 |
| amotoki | folks who understand neutron-lib policy well are worth considered like stable team. | 14:34 |
| amotoki | boden is a good candidate to me :) | 14:34 |
| hichihara | +1 | 14:34 |
| reedip-holo | +1 :) | 14:34 |
| boden | IMO minally it seems the neutron core team should have +W rights | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | boden: you have +W in nuetron-lib, right? | 14:35 |
| boden | mlavalle I do not, only neutron-drivers team does | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | I'll fix that today | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | I wasn't aware | 14:36 |
| boden | ok | 14:36 |
| jlibosva | it's good you've brought this up boden , I also thought you have the powers :) | 14:36 |
| boden | looking for the ACL link | 14:36 |
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| boden | I will find it a ping it to the neutron room | 14:37 |
| amotoki | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/neutron-lib,access | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1187,members | 14:37 |
| boden | ah yes thanks | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | I see boden there | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | and I'll make sure the Neutron core team can +W in neutron-lib | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | ooh, it's specific to +W | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | I see now | 14:37 |
| hichihara | cool | 14:38 |
| boden | Label Workflow Exclusive neutron-drivers-core | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | boden: will fix it | 14:38 |
| boden | ok | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | thanks for bringing it up | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 14:38 |
| boden | thanks for listening :) | 14:38 |
| boden | finally I will just mention I have a few NeutronLibImpact patches out there to consume some of the callback event payloads | 14:39 |
| boden | we don’t have to digress, just FYI | 14:39 |
| boden | and thats all from me, unless questions | 14:39 |
| * mlavalle is already looking at that one | 14:39 | |
| boden | cool | 14:40 |
| boden | thanks | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | seems like there are no questions | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | thanks boden :) | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | #topic Open Agenda | 14:40 |
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| jlibosva | I don't see any topic at the wiki page | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | does anybody have anything to dicuss? | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | discuss* | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | I have one | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | but will wait for others to speak up first | 14:41 |
| slaweq | I wanted to ask once again about neutronclient status as there is couple quite new patches for it currently | 14:41 |
| slaweq | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-neutronclient | 14:41 |
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| slaweq | AFAIR someone wanted to discuss it on ML but I didn't see any email about that (maybe I missed it) | 14:42 |
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| amotoki | slaweq: good point. it is about neutron CLI future. | 14:43 |
| amotoki | we are still accepting patches on OSC plugins and python bindings. do you see several patches on 'neutron' CLI? | 14:43 |
| slaweq | what about patches like for example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526984/ | 14:44 |
| slaweq | or https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526981/ | 14:44 |
| amotoki | patches from hongbin are both about python bindings | 14:44 |
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| amotoki | so they are no problem to be merged. | 14:45 |
| slaweq | amotoki: ok | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: you happy? | 14:45 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I think so, thx | 14:45 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: thanks for the wisdom :-) | 14:46 |
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| jlibosva | mlavalle: perhaps you want to bring your topic now? :) | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | I just wanted to thank each and everyone of you for your hard work during 2017 | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | It is a privilege to belong to this team | 14:47 |
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| mlavalle | It is a humbling experience the amount of learning I get from you all | 14:48 |
| boden | +1 | 14:48 |
| jlibosva | ++ | 14:48 |
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| mlavalle | everyday | 14:48 |
| hichihara | ++ | 14:48 |
| amotoki | ++ | 14:48 |
| slaweq | ++ | 14:48 |
| hoangcx_ | ++ | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | I wish you all a great holidays season | 14:48 |
| annp | ++ | 14:49 |
| hichihara | mlavalle: you too :) | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | if in your country or system of beliefs you don't have a holiday over the next copuiple of weeks, please invent one | 14:49 |
| boden | lol | 14:49 |
| jlibosva | :D | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | and enjoy it | 14:49 |
| bcafarel | :) | 14:49 |
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| amotoki | good idea :) | 14:49 |
| hichihara | :) | 14:49 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: thanks! and don't work too hard over the holidays | 14:49 |
| annp | :) | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | and I wish you all a very succesful 18 | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | 2018 | 14:49 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: thanks :) | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | that's it | 14:50 |
| slaweq | thanks :) | 14:50 |
| jlibosva | I also wish the best in 2018 to all of you | 14:50 |
| jlibosva | this is the last meeting this year, so thanks for keeping coming :) | 14:50 |
| annp | thanks. happy holiday season :) | 14:50 |
| hichihara | Thanks great PTL :) | 14:50 |
| jlibosva | see you all next year, I'm about to close this meeting | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:51 |
| jlibosva | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 19 14:51:48 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-12-19-14.00.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-12-19-14.00.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-12-19-14.00.log.html | 14:51 |
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| amotoki | o/ | 14:52 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq: I'll be a few minutes late | 14:54 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: no problem | 14:54 |
| slaweq | thx for info | 14:54 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 15:01:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:01 |
| slaweq | hello | 15:01 |
| slaweq | welcome on last QoS meeting this year :) | 15:01 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle will be few minutes late so I think we can wait for him | 15:02 |
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| slaweq | hi mlavalle | 15:04 |
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| mlavalle | o/ | 15:04 |
| slaweq | it looks that we are only two on meeting :/ | 15:04 |
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| mlavalle | let's do a quick one | 15:04 |
| slaweq | ok | 15:04 |
| slaweq | so first topic is | 15:05 |
| slaweq | #topic RFEs | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:05 | |
| slaweq | we have one new rfe bug reported: | 15:05 |
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| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1727578 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:05 |
| slaweq | it's even not triagged yet | 15:05 |
| slaweq | and I didn't have time to read it yet | 15:06 |
| reedip-holo | Hi | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto already chimed in | 15:06 |
| slaweq | reedip-holo: hi | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | it would be great if you can take a look at it | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | hey reedip-holo | 15:07 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I will read it carefully tomorow | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | thanks :-) | 15:07 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq will look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1727578 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:07 |
| slaweq | next one | 15:07 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649517 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649517 in neutron "qos policy attached to network, qos_policy_id is reflecting on neutron net-show , but not on the port with neutron port-show" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 15:07 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: it's still waiting for drivers team :) | 15:07 |
| reedip-holo | It's still stuck | 15:07 |
| slaweq | will be drivers meeting this week? | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | it was discussed during last meeting | 15:08 |
| slaweq | ah, so I missed logs from it | 15:08 |
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| mlavalle | the team didn't see a strong reason to implement it | 15:09 |
| reedip-holo | ?? | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | I will update it later today | 15:10 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: ok, thx | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | and yo can respond there | 15:10 |
| slaweq | ok | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | but the point was | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | that you can always look at the port | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | and the show it's network | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | then^^^ | 15:11 |
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| mlavalle | and see if it is the same policy | 15:11 |
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| mlavalle | right? | 15:11 |
| slaweq | yes, You can | 15:11 |
| reedip-holo | But that's not the exact thing achieved in this RFE, I guess | 15:11 |
| slaweq | but it was more for the case when port inherits policy from network | 15:11 |
| slaweq | and don't have own policy | 15:11 |
| slaweq | then it is not clear that port have got any policy attached | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | in that situation..... | 15:12 |
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| slaweq | unless user will not do network-show for each port which he have | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | will the policy-id shown in the port will be the same as in the network? | 15:13 |
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| slaweq | this patch which reedip-holo did adds additional field to port | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | I know | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | but currently | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | before the patch | 15:13 |
| slaweq | before this patch there will be no policy-id if it is inherited from network | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | what happens if the port inherited it's network policy? | 15:14 |
| slaweq | this field is empty | 15:14 |
| reedip-holo | Yep as slaweq said | 15:14 |
| slaweq | for port | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | so we need to clarify that in the rfe | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | we misunderstood | 15:14 |
| slaweq | reedip-holo: will You write it there? | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | so I will post a response from the last meeting | 15:15 |
| reedip-holo | Ok I will | 15:15 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | and then reedip-holo can reply | 15:15 |
| reedip-holo | Ok ok | 15:15 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yep, thx | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | cool | 15:15 |
| reedip-holo | Ok :) | 15:15 |
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| mlavalle | and it's at the top of the list | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | so we will discuss again this Friday | 15:16 |
| reedip-holo | Ok gr8 | 15:16 |
| slaweq | good, thx :) | 15:16 |
| slaweq | so moving to next one | 15:17 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596611 | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596611 in neutron "[RFE] Create L3 IPs with qos (rate limit)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:17 |
| slaweq | this is FIP QoS | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | yes | 15:17 |
| slaweq | it is almost merged :) | 15:17 |
| slaweq | remaining patches waiting for review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/floating-ip-rate-limit+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | I have a couple of questions | 15:17 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: shoot | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | 1) you tested the agent side and it works, right? | 15:18 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes, I tested it on my devstack and it looked that it works | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:18 |
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| mlavalle | 2) in the docs patch, he states that if a policy with no limit rules is attached to a FIP, it will do nothing | 15:19 |
| slaweq | at least on tc side everything looked good on my side | 15:19 |
| slaweq | yes, it is done in same way like it was some time ago for ports/network | 15:19 |
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| mlavalle | but can't we check that in the server and return BadRequest | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | ? | 15:20 |
| slaweq | but later we added validation mechanism when policy is attached for port or network | 15:20 |
| slaweq | I think we should but I think it can be next step maybe | 15:20 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq: I agree. I just don't want to leave that in the docs | 15:21 |
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| mlavalle | or at least clarify that it will be fixed | 15:21 |
| slaweq | IMHO it should be like that for now as it is true | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | makes sense? | 15:21 |
| slaweq | I agree that it can be clarify that it will be changed | 15:21 |
| slaweq | yes :) | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | ok, cool | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | we are good | 15:22 |
| slaweq | and also I pointed in this docs patch that some update of qos internal document should be also updated | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | did he agree to that? | 15:22 |
| slaweq | it is not done still so IMO we should wait for that | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:22 |
| slaweq | AFAIR he told something about completly new document for FIP QoS | 15:23 |
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| slaweq | I don't know if it is necessary but maybe his right :) | 15:23 |
| slaweq | ok, next one? | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | done | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | said couple of questions | 15:25 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle | 15:25 |
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| slaweq | so moving on | 15:26 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 | 15:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] | 15:26 |
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| slaweq | this one has no volunteer currently | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | is there a patchset already? | 15:26 |
| slaweq | and nothing changed since last time about it | 15:26 |
| reedip_ | I think this wAS taken up by ralonsoh | 15:26 |
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| reedip_ | wasnt it? | 15:26 |
| reedip_ | if there is some info, I can tke it up | 15:27 |
| slaweq | reedip_: it was | 15:27 |
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| slaweq | but later also hichihara was working on it | 15:28 |
| slaweq | but his patch is abandoned for now | 15:28 |
| slaweq | and ralonsoh patch for LB was reverted probably because there was something wrong with it | 15:29 |
| slaweq | but I'm not sure about that | 15:29 |
| reedip_ | ok.... | 15:29 |
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| slaweq | if You would have anyone who wants to start working on it, that would be great :) | 15:29 |
| reedip_ | I can get working on it | 15:30 |
| slaweq | reedip_: that would be great | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | thanks reedip_ | 15:30 |
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| slaweq | if You will need anything, just ask me on irc | 15:30 |
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| reedip_ | yeah sure :) | 15:30 |
| slaweq | thx reedip_ | 15:31 |
| slaweq | so last rfe which I have for today | 15:31 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1692951 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1692951 in neutron "[RFE] DSCP mark on the outer header" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Ali Sanhaji (ali-sanhaji) | 15:31 |
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| slaweq | I was trying to catch author of this patch on IRC but I couldn't | 15:31 |
| slaweq | but I was talking with tmorin and he told me that author should continue his work on it | 15:32 |
| slaweq | It was almost ready as I remember | 15:32 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: what You think if I would continue work on this patch if author will be still not available for week or two? | 15:33 |
| slaweq | because I would like to finish it if it would be possible | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | go for it | 15:33 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: ok, thx | 15:33 |
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| slaweq | so I will keep an eye on it | 15:34 |
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| slaweq | so, next topic is | 15:34 |
| slaweq | #topic Bugs | 15:34 |
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| slaweq | there is couple of QoS related bugs reported | 15:35 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1662109 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662109 in neutron "tempest scenario test_qos fails intermittently" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:35 |
| slaweq | recently I was trying to find on logstash if it is still an issue | 15:35 |
| slaweq | but it looks that test results from this job are not indexed on logstash | 15:35 |
| slaweq | I couldn't find any results from it :/ | 15:36 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: maybe You can help on checking this logs on logstash? and if job is configured properly? | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: ok, I will take a look | 15:37 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: thx | 15:37 |
| slaweq | it's neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario job | 15:37 |
| slaweq | I can send You query which I was trying on logstash if You want | 15:38 |
| slaweq | but that can be after meeting I think | 15:38 |
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| slaweq | next one | 15:39 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1733649 | 15:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1733649 in neutron "fullstack neutron.tests.fullstack.test_qos.TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs.test_dscp_marking_packets(openflow-native) failure" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:39 |
| slaweq | this is also related to failing tests (fullstack) | 15:39 |
| slaweq | so I added some additional logs of tcpdump output but this issue didn't happen since few days | 15:39 |
| slaweq | so I'm just checking every morning if I will find something | 15:40 |
| slaweq | not too much to add here | 15:40 |
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| slaweq | next one | 15:40 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1736674 | 15:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1736674 in neutron "sg rules are sometimes not applied" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:40 |
| slaweq | that is also assigned to me | 15:41 |
| slaweq | and it has patch ready to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527965/ | 15:41 |
| slaweq | I would be grateful if You could look on it | 15:41 |
| reedip_ | in my To DO list now | 15:42 |
| slaweq | it's related to qos because DSCP marking packets in linuxbridge agent breaks security groups rules in iptables | 15:42 |
| slaweq | reedip_: thx | 15:42 |
| slaweq | next one is also about failing fullstack test | 15:42 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1737892 | 15:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1737892 in neutron "Fullstack test test_qos.TestBwLimitQoSOvs.test_bw_limit_qos_port_removed failing many times" [High,Confirmed] | 15:42 |
| slaweq | I found that it happen few times so I reported it as bug | 15:43 |
| slaweq | but I haven't got time to debug it yet | 15:43 |
| slaweq | any questions or we can go to next one? | 15:44 |
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| reedip_ | we can move on | 15:45 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: are You still with us? :) | 15:45 |
| slaweq | so next | 15:45 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1676877 | 15:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1676877 in neutron "Increase "TestQosPlugin.test_update_policy_rule" coverage" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: yes | 15:45 |
| slaweq | reedip_: mlavalle reviewed Your patch today | 15:46 |
| slaweq | reedip_: please check his comments | 15:46 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: great :) | 15:46 |
| reedip_ | I would tomorrow... | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | I'm ok with the code | 15:46 |
| reedip_ | I am tired today ( its 2115 here ) | 15:46 |
| slaweq | reedip_: sure :) | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | I just think the commit message doesn't reflect all the code does | 15:46 |
| reedip_ | okie dokie | 15:47 |
| slaweq | ok, next one is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1736792 | 15:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1736792 in neutron "DSCP marking QOS policy applied to port not properly updating OVS flow table" [Medium,New] | 15:47 |
| slaweq | it was reported for Newton release | 15:48 |
| slaweq | so I think that we should first check if it's still an issue for master | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | good idea :-) | 15:49 |
| slaweq | I will add it to my list of todos but if someone would have time to check it, would be great | 15:49 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq check if https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1736792 is still an issue on master | 15:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1736792 in neutron "DSCP marking QOS policy applied to port not properly updating OVS flow table" [Medium,New] | 15:49 |
| slaweq | next #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1724729 | 15:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1724729 in neutron "ovs-lib not support qos type egress-policer for ovs-dpdk" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:49 |
| slaweq | patch is in review: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513398/ | 15:50 |
| slaweq | please review if You will have some time | 15:50 |
| reedip_ | TO do List | 15:51 |
| slaweq | reedip_: thx | 15:51 |
| slaweq | ok, and the last one for today #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1732852 | 15:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1732852 in neutron "neutron don't support Router gateway rate limit " [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:51 |
| slaweq | this is not new one | 15:51 |
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| slaweq | patch for docs is already merged | 15:52 |
| slaweq | but it's kind of workaround only | 15:52 |
| slaweq | in future we should probably think how to fix it in better way :) | 15:52 |
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| slaweq | any questions to those bugs? | 15:53 |
| slaweq | reedip_: mlavalle ? | 15:53 |
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| mlavalle | none from me | 15:54 |
| slaweq | ok | 15:55 |
| slaweq | so last topic for today | 15:55 |
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| slaweq | #topic Open Discussion | 15:55 |
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| slaweq | I don't have anything | 15:55 |
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| slaweq | do You have something to add? | 15:55 |
| mlavalle | me neither | 15:55 |
| reedip_ | Sorry I disconnected | 15:55 |
| reedip_ | Nothing from my side | 15:56 |
| reedip_ | Seems my PC is more sleepy than me | 15:56 |
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| slaweq | ok, so Merry Christmass and Happy New Year | 15:56 |
| slaweq | next meeting will be in 2018 :) | 15:56 |
| slaweq | reedip_: :D | 15:56 |
| reedip_ | Happy New Year and Merry Christmas... We would be having Q3 soon so enjoy the holidays | 15:57 |
| reedip_ | :D | 15:57 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:57 |
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| slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 19 15:57:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-12-19-15.01.html | 15:57 |
| slaweq | bye | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-12-19-15.01.txt | 15:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-12-19-15.01.log.html | 15:57 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 16:01:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | hi | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from prev meeting (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| haleyb | hi | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | "jlibosva to post wishlist bugs for fullstack improvements (reuse db dump; reuse env per class)" | 16:01 |
| jlibosva | hi | 16:01 |
| jlibosva | I did a few minutes ago | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | haha | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | links? | 16:02 |
| jlibosva | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1739075 | 16:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1739075 in neutron "fullstack: Improve test suite by creating environment per test class" [Wishlist,New] | 16:02 |
| jlibosva | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1739078 | 16:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1739078 in neutron "fullstack: Use a pre-built database schema" [Wishlist,New] | 16:02 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, is 'rfe' tagneeded? | 16:03 |
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| jlibosva | I did tag it as rfe since it's an enhancement and not a real bug | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | we have Wishlist for that alredy | 16:03 |
| jlibosva | but dunno :) | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | 'rfe' would trigger drivers discussion | 16:03 |
| jlibosva | ok, I'll remove the rfe tags | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | + | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | and we want to avoid those guys | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | yeah they are the worst | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 16:04 |
| jlibosva | removed :) | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | ok thanks for the reports! moving on | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | "haleyb to post patch disabling east-west tests" | 16:04 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527992/ merged | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | great | 16:05 |
| haleyb | there is another change that seems related | 16:05 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528795/ | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | is it the reason why dvr flavor failed on setup? | 16:06 |
| haleyb | yes it could be, i just noticed this morning so haven't looked closely | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | I think it is. I saw dvr job failing after ~20mins of setup without triggering tempest | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | since the patch passes dvr job it should be ok | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | I +2d, thanks for the link | 16:07 |
| haleyb | frickler: ^^ ? | 16:07 |
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| frickler | yes, that was the latest reason I saw for dvr failure | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | thanks frickler ! | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | #topic Tempest plugin | 16:08 |
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| ihrachys | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-tempest-plugin-job-move | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | there is still some cleanup work to do | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | though I saw Chandan posted a governance patch marking it as completed here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524605/2 | 16:09 |
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| ihrachys | I think we should first clean up than claim victory | 16:09 |
| frickler | I have a question there related to stable branches | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | shoot | 16:10 |
| frickler | the jobs using tempest plugin are failing on stable branches for neutron-dynamic-routing | 16:10 |
| frickler | is the intention to use tests from neutron repo instead for that instead? | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | I don't think they are supposed to be used for any stable branches | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | yes, new repo = queens+ | 16:11 |
| frickler | e.g. https://review.openstack.org/528990 | 16:11 |
| frickler | so I'd cancel these cherry-picks and do unmodified backports of the "original" legacy jobs? | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | yeah. for stable you just move legacy jobs as is, using in-tree tests | 16:12 |
| frickler | k | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | I remember Chandan said he will update subproject patches consuming new repo but I don't see updates except for midonet that is all red anyway: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521342/ | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | what we need to do with all subprojects is to switch to new paths and install plugin using devstack plugin that was merged in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526044/ | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | should we ask project owners to take over those patches? | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | that's a good idea | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | we have midonet, vpnaas and dynamic-routing that are stadium projects | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | it looks like frickler drives d-r | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | with midonet, yamamoto can help | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | with dynamic-routing garyk can help | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | who's vpnaas point of contact | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | hoangcx | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | hoangcx_ | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, would you mind if I ask you to reach out to yamamoto and hoangcx about those two patches? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521341/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521342/ | 16:19 |
| frickler | mlavalle: do you need help with https://review.openstack.org/522931? master is working, so I think having this new patch for stable/pike seems the right approach | 16:19 |
| mlavalle | not a problem | 16:19 |
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| ihrachys | frickler, I believe that's another topic we should discuss now. mlavalle had master patch doing the same that we may want to move forward first. | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525345/ | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | yes | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | once that merges, I'll take care of the cherrypicks | 16:20 |
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| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/522931 should be abandoned | 16:21 |
| frickler | ah, I hadn't seen that one, o.k. | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, do you have a patch ready that rips of duplicate jobs from gate? | 16:21 |
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| mlavalle | ihrachys: no, I will do that next | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | I think we should prioritize it right now because x2 number of jobs => unstable gate | 16:22 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | ok cool | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | #action mlavalle to send patch(es) removing duplicate jobs from neutron gate | 16:22 |
| frickler | if you ping me once they are ready, I can push them on the infra side | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | you already have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516724/ for -api so maybe makes sense to reuse it | 16:22 |
| mlavalle | frickler: thanks. will do | 16:23 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: yes, I will expand that | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | ok cool | 16:23 |
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| ihrachys | and also once we migrate subprojects to new imports we should be able to kill tempest remainings in neutron tree (the base class etc.) | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | seems like that's all there is for migration | 16:24 |
| frickler | a bit related: the neutron-api test on devstack-gate currently is doing nothing because the tests it tries to run are removed from neutron repo | 16:24 |
| frickler | this is to use the plugin job instead: https://review.openstack.org/529000 | 16:24 |
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| ihrachys | frickler, yeah good catch | 16:25 |
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| ihrachys | frickler, gerrit suggests it needs a respin | 16:26 |
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| ihrachys | not sure if that's correct though | 16:26 |
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| ihrachys | ok now let's move from migration issues to looking at new patches for the plugin | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin+status:open | 16:27 |
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| chandankumar | ihrachys: hello | 16:27 |
| frickler | ihrachys: yes, I'll rebase | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | chandankumar, heya, we were discussing remaining migration bits for new tempest plugin for neutron. we decided that subproject owners will take over patches you have for vpnaas, midonet, and dynamic-routing | 16:28 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: sure | 16:28 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: but i have one questions | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | shoot | 16:29 |
| chandankumar | other neutron dependent projects have also their intree tempest plugins are they also moving to new repo or merging in the same neutron tempest plugin? | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | each repo may have its own plugin, it's ok | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | but for stadium projects, we may consider adopting their tests too | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, what do you think? | 16:30 |
| chandankumar | then it will be so many plugins repo again | 16:30 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: i was thinking to merge all in the neutron tempest plugin | 16:30 |
| chandankumar | one tempest plugin to rule them all | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I also thin we can adopt their tests | 16:31 |
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| mlavalle | bcafarel has been asking about that | 16:31 |
| chandankumar | ihrachys: for telemetry projects i have merged aodh, ceilometer, panko in one project telemetry-tempest-plugin | 16:31 |
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| ihrachys | I think it's a matter of will and effort. from my perspective it makes sense that stadium extensions are part of neutron api and hence covered by unified plugin. | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | but it's probably a question for drivers | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | because it involves definition of neutron api and stadium structure etc. | 16:33 |
| mlavalle | we can discuss in the next drivers meeting | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | + | 16:33 |
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| chandankumar | ihrachys: l2gw tests are moved to a new repo tempest plugin as it does not comes under neutron deliverables | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | #action mlavalle to report back about result of drivers discussion on unified tempest plugin for all stadium projects | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | chandankumar, yes, anything not in stadium is out of discussion :) | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | l2gw won't re-join the stadium | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | I had a conversation about it in Sydney | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | ok back to plugin patches... | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | let's look at the patch adding dns test: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520233/ | 16:35 |
| chandankumar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510525/ was a patch to move l2gw under stadium but it got abandoned | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | I had a concern there about us importing code from designate plugin here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520233/11/neutron_tempest_plugin/scenario/test_dns_integration.py@36 | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | this is needed to get access to all the helpers that inspect dns zones | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | I suggested to maybe keep the test inside designate plugin but frickler replied that the functionality under test is in neutron repo | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | so I guess we are good to go with it? of course assuming that designate tempest plugin changes will be gated against the job right? | 16:37 |
| mlavalle | I am good with it | 16:37 |
| frickler | there's a patch up for that already: https://review.openstack.org/522950 | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | frickler, it's not voting. is it going to change? or you think it's not a risk? | 16:38 |
| frickler | ihrachys: well, it is not voting yet on the neutron side either | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | ah right | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | so it will inherit once we flip in neutron? | 16:39 |
| frickler | but I'd envision changing both, once it proves stable, yes | 16:39 |
| mlavalle | we talked about that a few weeks ago, didn't we? | 16:40 |
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| ihrachys | ok. one risk is that currently designate job is not in neutron gate at all. so we may break the dns driver and in result block your gate and plugin gate | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, we haven't discussed the tempest cross-import details | 16:40 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:41 |
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| haleyb | we will also need a dashboard update right? | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, yeah true | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | #action frickler to post patch updating neutron grafana board to include designate scenario job | 16:41 |
| frickler | yes, I can do that | 16:42 |
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| ihrachys | anyway, as for the test itself, I think it's ok to land. we can revisit voting later. | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | ok other patches in the queue just need reviewer love but seem innocent to skip them | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:43 |
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| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | we have dvr-scenario at 100% but it should resolve with brian's and frickler's patches | 16:44 |
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| ihrachys | I am eager to see result after both land | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | besides that, there is linuxbridge scenario and fullstack | 16:45 |
| jlibosva | I saw another failure in dvr-scenario related to trunk | 16:45 |
| jlibosva | I think it might be a race between ovs firewall and trunk handler. I need to investigate further | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, how did you see it if it's supposedly broken? do you have a link to a bug? | 16:45 |
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| ihrachys | I guess it's not 100% failure because of devstack-gate issue | 16:46 |
| jlibosva | I saw it here http://logs.openstack.org/92/527992/2/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/166eee3/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:46 |
| ihrachys | same test fails in slightly different but similar way for linuxbridge too: http://logs.openstack.org/88/526488/5/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/66f8835/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:47 |
| frickler | yes, I saw that a couple of times, too. maybe also mark that one as unstable? | 16:47 |
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| jlibosva | the dvr one fails with SSH failure probably because of an issue in trunk plugging | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | we first need to make sure there is a bug report for the failure | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1722644 for dvr job | 16:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1722644 in neutron "TrunkTest fails for OVS/DVR scenario job" [High,Confirmed] | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | though the error message is different there | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | I haven't seen that one for a while | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | so we probably should close it and create a new one | 16:48 |
| jlibosva | this is my suspected culprit http://logs.openstack.org/92/527992/2/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/166eee3/logs/subnode-2/screen-q-agt.txt.gz#_Dec_14_18_31_25_801432 | 16:48 |
| jlibosva | I'll do that | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to close bug 1722644 and open a new one for trunk connectivity failures in dvr and linuxbridge scenario jobs | 16:49 |
| openstack | bug 1722644 in neutron "TrunkTest fails for OVS/DVR scenario job" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722644 | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, thanks! | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, this seems ovs specific, so maybe two bugs for dvr and linuxbridge respectively | 16:50 |
| jlibosva | I see | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, you will post a disabling patch right? | 16:51 |
| jlibosva | ok | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to disable trunk scenario connectivity tests | 16:52 |
| * mlavalle back | 16:53 | |
| ihrachys | another failure in linuxbridge is test_ip_prefix_negative here: http://logs.openstack.org/88/526488/5/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/66f8835/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | I don't think we have a bug for that reported either | 16:53 |
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| slaweq | I think that my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527965/ fixes this one | 16:53 |
| frickler | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1736674 | 16:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1736674 in neutron "sg rules are sometimes not applied" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:54 |
| slaweq | frickler: thx, I just wanted to post link to it :) | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | riiight | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | ok let's review it then :) | 16:55 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | I see linuxbridge is green for this patch, good ;) | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | #topic Fullstack | 16:55 |
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| ihrachys | we have little time so let's review it quick | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | fullstack job is same 80% as it was for a while | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | example: http://logs.openstack.org/65/527965/4/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/12b03b9/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:55 |
| slaweq | recently I found new issue on fullstack: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1737892 | 16:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1737892 in neutron "Fullstack test test_qos.TestBwLimitQoSOvs.test_bw_limit_qos_port_removed failing many times" [High,Confirmed] | 16:56 |
| slaweq | but I haven't got time to check it yet | 16:56 |
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| ihrachys | ack | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | not enough details to suggest anything there yet. I assume agent log is clean? | 16:57 |
| slaweq | to be honest I didn't check it yet | 16:57 |
| slaweq | I just reported issue on launchpad | 16:57 |
| slaweq | but I will try to debug it ASAP if anyone else will not take it :) | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | I bet no one will | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | :) | 16:58 |
| slaweq | yes, so I will try to debug it :) | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | ok there is little time, but I will take it on myself to report the security group failure | 16:59 |
| slaweq | it's qos and fullstack so it's what I like most :D | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to report sec group fullstack failure | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | no meeting next week? | 16:59 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: You can add action for me that I will check this issue with qos and fullstack | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, your desires are unconventional ;) | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, yeah absolutely | 17:00 |
| slaweq | :) | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | meaning no meeting? | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | #action slaweq to debug qos fullstack failure https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1737892 | 17:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1737892 in neutron "Fullstack test test_qos.TestBwLimitQoSOvs.test_bw_limit_qos_port_removed failing many times" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, sure. we will have shutdown as expected | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | cool | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | next time Jan 2 right?\ | 17:01 |
| ihrachys | I will send an email, I hope 1/2 is fine with most | 17:01 |
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| ihrachys | we are out of time, thanks everyone for all the hard work! | 17:01 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 19 17:01:41 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-12-19-16.01.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-12-19-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-12-19-16.01.log.html | 17:01 |
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| slaweq | thx | 17:02 |
| slaweq | bye | 17:02 |
| jlibosva | o/ | 17:02 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 18:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
| raildo | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 18:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | davidalles: ^ | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 18:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:00 |
| ruan__he | o/ | 18:00 |
| davidalles_ | hello | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | we have all sorts of stuff to talk about today | 18:00 |
| cleong | hi | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | just a quick couple of announcements, gagehugo is gonna give a quick vmt update, then we'll get into the specs | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | we'll give folks a couple minutes to join | 18:01 |
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| lbragstad | alright - let's get started | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | #topic announcements: feature proposal freeze | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements: feature proposal freeze (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:03 | |
| lbragstad | #info Feature proposal freeze for Queens is this week | 18:03 |
| *** sambetts is now known as sambetts|afk | 18:03 | |
| lbragstad | for what we've accepted for this release, i don't think anything is in jeopardy | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | unified limits, application credents, project tags, and system scope all have implementations that are up and ready for review | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | which means we will have a busy milestone for reviews, but glad to see things proposed | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | in addition to that | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | #info All targeted/expected specifications have merged | 18:04 |
| hrybacki | good job to all the folks doing hard work to make that happen | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | +2 | 18:04 |
| gagehugo | yay | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | so - as far as what we discussed at the PTG and the Forum/Summit, we're consistent in our roadmap and our specification repository | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | which is a really good thing | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | especially now that unified limits merged | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455709/ | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | thanks cmurphy kmalloc wxy for pushing that through and capturing the details we got from sdake | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | sdague* | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | (sorry sdake!) | 18:06 |
| sdake | lbragstad it happens | 18:06 |
| sdake | (all the time:) | 18:06 |
| gagehugo | lol | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | :) | 18:07 |
| cmurphy | woot | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | tons of things are up for review for those looking to review some code | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | new features too that need to be played with | 18:07 |
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| lbragstad | and without a doubt, some client stuff that still needs to be done based on the new feature work | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | (unified limits, application credentials, for sure) | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | there are no shortages of work, that's for sure :) | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | thanks again to folks for shaping up the release, things are looking good | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | #topic VMT coverage | 18:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "VMT coverage (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:09 | |
| lbragstad | gagehugo: o/ | 18:09 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:09 |
| gagehugo | so fungi and lhinds have looked over the vmt doc for keystonemiddleware and documented their findings here | 18:10 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystonemiddleware-ta | 18:10 |
| gagehugo | so now I think the idea is that the keystone team and them meet to finalize it | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | sounds like we need to review their findings | 18:11 |
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| gagehugo | yeah | 18:11 |
| gagehugo | s/finalize/review and finalize/ | 18:11 |
| gagehugo | we can setup a meeting after the holidays if that works | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | that sounds good to me | 18:11 |
| gagehugo | also there are drafts for keystoneauth and oslo.cache | 18:11 |
| gagehugo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:keystone-vmt | 18:12 |
| kmalloc | gagehugo: thanks! I appreciate you working so hard on this | 18:12 |
| gagehugo | kmalloc :) anytime | 18:12 |
| gagehugo | it's been an interesting process | 18:12 |
| gagehugo | that's all I got for that update | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | cool | 18:12 |
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| lbragstad | thanks gagehugo | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | #topic specification review and discussion | 18:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specification review and discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:13 | |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: ruan__he davidalles_ o/ | 18:13 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323499/ | 18:13 |
| davidalles | here we are | 18:13 |
| davidalles | Enterprise objective in telecom Cloud is to be able to Audit and Remediate the list of users and their roles on multiple openstack deployments inside one country via dedicated processed run outside from openstack IaaS | 18:13 |
| kmalloc | uhm. | 18:13 |
| davidalles | As a consequence we want to implement inside the IaaS regions the Identity and Access Management features so that local keystones are the source of truth on ‘per-openstack deployment’ basis | 18:13 |
| kmalloc | my -2 disappeared from a patch. | 18:14 |
| kmalloc | hold on i need to go chat w/ infra. brb | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: doh! | 18:14 |
| hrybacki | still there kmalloc | 18:14 |
| davidalles | currently what is missing is the proper way to synchronize the reference for projects | 18:14 |
| davidalles | on the various openstack deployments | 18:14 |
| jdennis | this is essentially an attempt to federate diverse clouds runining different version of opentstack | 18:15 |
| kmalloc | nvm - terrible gerrit UI, old patches don't show scores. | 18:15 |
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| davidalles | ==>synchro is run from one external tool | 18:15 |
| davidalles | which will use the standard keystone APIs | 18:15 |
| davidalles | except for the keystone/createProject where we would like to 'force' the project's ID: | 18:15 |
| davidalles | same openstack ID on all deployment | 18:16 |
| ruan__he | when we talk about an external tool, it's a module which coordinates multiple Openstack | 18:16 |
| davidalles | correct | 18:16 |
| * knikolla sorry for being late | 18:16 | |
| ruan__he | if we have this feature, the module will be able to create projects of different openstack with the same id | 18:16 |
| ruan__he | this is what we call "synchronization" | 18:17 |
| jdennis | shouldn't this be an upstream project to work out all the details of federated disjoint clouds? | 18:17 |
| ruan__he | it could be, I've presented this work to LOCC yet | 18:17 |
| ruan__he | but, don't we need to do that step by step? | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | davidalles: ruan__he when we talked, it sounded like you had some restrictions you had to adhere to? | 18:18 |
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| davidalles | my request on keystone team is to start step-by-step: allowing to synchronize the project’s ID across sites | 18:19 |
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| davidalles | (then we may open a refactoring for this external tool for IAM & ACM) | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | i am against the standard APIs being used for that. | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | ftr | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | this should be a system-scoped/admin only option IMO | 18:19 |
| ruan__he | kmalloc, this feature existed before | 18:20 |
| kmalloc | not in v3 | 18:20 |
| kmalloc | it has never existed in v3 | 18:20 |
| davidalles | sounds before noone fully expressed a need to 'port it' to v3? | 18:20 |
| davidalles | sounds no one fully.. | 18:20 |
| kmalloc | no, we explicitly decided that we didn't want it in v3, it was brought up | 18:21 |
| kmalloc | and it was decided that v3 100% controlls all ids. | 18:21 |
| davidalles | ah, it is different! | 18:21 |
| ruan__he | for which raison you want 100% control? | 18:21 |
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| kmalloc | for a lot of reasons, mostly centering around the fact that we had issues with guaranteeing no conflicts for generated/derived resources | 18:22 |
| kmalloc | aka, mapping ending for users. | 18:22 |
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| davidalles | [I understand that Cern company also have the same request because the same requirement]: How do you identify one alternative approach | 18:23 |
| kmalloc | it prevents malicious use / issues creating a project that could then generate for mapped users a known set of IDs from a different IDP or to surreptitiously own a domain/project prior to the IDP being linked | 18:23 |
| davidalles | to comply to the requirement? | 18:23 |
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| ruan__he | if it only option, it will not change the standard usage | 18:23 |
| rmascena | I believe that the revocation events + role assignments controls should become way more difficult to deal with with we enable that change, so I believe that we should specify in that spec, how we are gonna deal with that kind of sync evens on that scenario | 18:23 |
| kmalloc | so, if you want this, I am going to tell you it cannot be in the standard APIs. | 18:23 |
| kmalloc | it must be done as a privileged (cloud admin/system scope) | 18:24 |
| kmalloc | it means a cloud admin/system scope is needed to do this work, not a "domain admin" | 18:24 |
| kmalloc | the issue is around domain-admins who can create projects. | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | even so - we should still think about the ramifications of the revocation argument | 18:24 |
| kmalloc | and similar effects. | 18:24 |
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| cmurphy | why does this need to be part of the API instead of synchronizing the project table? | 18:24 |
| davidalles | Agreed: let's enforce this via 'system scoping' only because this is a Cloud Service Provider privilege | 18:25 |
| jdennis | cmurphy: because the are entirely different clouds | 18:25 |
| knikolla | why not use k2k with a mapping which guarantees project -> project mappings. | 18:25 |
| hrybacki | ^^ does everyone understand this is their use case? | 18:25 |
| kmalloc | now. that said, the best option is to navigate allowing an external authority on project IDs similar to federated auth, that can be sync'd. | 18:25 |
| kmalloc | but that is new tech. | 18:25 |
| davidalles | ... I understand that K2K is a synchro on Authentication, not authz | 18:25 |
| kmalloc | and i don't know how that works. | 18:26 |
| hrybacki | davidalles: ruan__he can you explain (high level) your project and how it differs from the way the cores are used to working with OpenStack? | 18:26 |
| kmalloc | k2k is basically SAML2 between keystones. | 18:26 |
| ruan__he | ok, we set up a upper layer to coordinate multiple independant openstack | 18:26 |
| kmalloc | it is AuthN with AuthZ still being based upon the SP side of the handshake (RBAC) | 18:26 |
| davidalles | I understand that standard usage of openstack deployments are independent cloud and customers are consuming various clouds in 'hybrid way' (from one or multiple CSP) | 18:27 |
| ruan__he | admin manipulate directly on the upper layer, and the upper layer in charge of send requests to each openstack | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | but it's expected to be able to use the same token between each cloud? | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | so it's more like different regions in a single deployment, right? | 18:28 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: yes, that is what they are going for. I don't know of anyone else that has tried this | 18:28 |
| kmalloc | things we also need to explicitly cover: what happens if cloudX has the same ID already as CloudY for a project. -- this is something we can't really fix (nor should we) but it is a major security concern [in your upper layer] | 18:28 |
| hrybacki | single openstack per region | 18:28 |
| hrybacki | being synced/controlled by an 'over the top layer' of custom software | 18:28 |
| kmalloc | if you're using the same token across different clouds, i am a hard -2 on all this. | 18:28 |
| kmalloc | we're not adding that support upstream in keystone. | 18:28 |
| davidalles | Here for Telco cloud with multiple sites, the CSP is responsible for the creation of the customer accounts (projects on all sites, allocating the users and configuring their permissions) | 18:28 |
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| knikolla | with k2k you can trivially get a token for the other side. | 18:29 |
| kmalloc | it is just way way way too much exposure. | 18:29 |
| ruan__he | as a security expert, the same project with different project ID in each openstack is a security concern ! | 18:29 |
| kmalloc | k2k is explicitly setup and you're getting a token issued by the otherside. | 18:29 |
| kmalloc | so revocations/project checks/etc are all managed on the SP side. | 18:29 |
| davidalles | and because the CSP is the Telco operator it is forced to comply to local regulation with hard IAM process and strong Audit & Compliance management | 18:30 |
| hrybacki | kmalloc lbragstad -- how do we handle very large consumers of OpenStack that want to push bounds? I think the 'opt in' approach here makes this a 'enter at your own risk' Perhaps there is a process around 'experimental' features? | 18:30 |
| lbragstad | we used to mark APIs as experimental, but we haven't done that in a while | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | we also don't do extensions | 18:31 |
| kmalloc | hrybacki: simply put, I'm going to say if you want to use the same token on multiple clouds, you're doing a ton of synchornization already, all IDs must be in sync, so my stance is I am not conceding any thing besides project IDs via system scope | 18:31 |
| davidalles | 'experimental' for CSP usage at 'system scoping' would be a very nice balance for use: and our openstack editor will support this with/out support exception. | 18:31 |
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| davidalles | but on my side I am not requesting to synchronize all the IDs on all the resources | 18:32 |
| ruan__he | kmalloc, we have tested K2K, it has a performance issue for our requirement | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | is it possible to get bugs opened for those performance issues? | 18:32 |
| kmalloc | you're probably moving into realms where you're solving how to sync the backends for keystone behind the scenes. i don't want every resource to have the "submit an API request with an ID to make a special resource" | 18:32 |
| davidalles | reminder: only need to be able to control the assignment on 'per-keystone deployement' | 18:32 |
| kmalloc | ruan__he: how about proper SSO [OIDC] or SAML to the individual keystone's | 18:33 |
| kmalloc | ? | 18:33 |
| kmalloc | rather than "just take a token issued by keystone A to keystone B | 18:33 |
| knikolla | ruan__he: only when you get a token, you can reuse it for the lifetime of it with zero impact on performance | 18:33 |
| kmalloc | " | 18:33 |
| lbragstad | davidalles: that can be done with roles assignments on shadow-users, right? | 18:33 |
| knikolla | kmalloc: i agree, this sounds like a federation scenario | 18:33 |
| jdennis | I am really concerned about all the other id's, this just feels like an opportunity for difficult to debug synchronization issues. | 18:33 |
| davidalles | all the other resources (and their IDs) are in the 'project scoping' | 18:34 |
| kmalloc | jdennis: i think this is something that needs to be built into the backend in the write phase, a driver. not on top of the APIs. | 18:34 |
| davidalles | then no request on them | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | davidalles: ruan__he is it possible to see what happened with your performance findings? | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | if there are things that aren't performant from a federation perspective upstream, we should fix those | 18:35 |
| ruan__he | if we make this feature as an option, we can show you later how we achieve this federation | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | it sounded like you tried k2k already but hit performance road blocks? | 18:36 |
| ruan__he | lbragstad, we worked on k2k 2 years before, and then we decided to go to another approach | 18:36 |
| lbragstad | were the issues that drove you to another approach performance related? | 18:36 |
| jdennis | but you're asking to expose an API that may have significant issues, what do we do when the API is present and the problems are found? | 18:36 |
| ruan__he | another important point is that, it's not only about the federation of 2-3 openstack, but about maybe more than 10! | 18:37 |
| davidalles | This requirement is on the shoulders of the CSP, to comply to regulations and hard OPS process | 18:38 |
| kmalloc | jdennis: i really feel like this whole thing needs to be a driver. | 18:38 |
| davidalles | and exactly we are dealin,g with tenS of telco datacenters | 18:38 |
| kmalloc | jdennis: so it can coordinate centrally and provide acks/etc. | 18:38 |
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| kmalloc | rather than a soft "we'll try and do it via public APIs" | 18:38 |
| lbragstad | davidalles: who is the CSP in this case? just so everyone can level set on terms | 18:39 |
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| lbragstad | ruan__he: if we're federating 10 different deployments and it trips up because performance is bad, then we should try to fix those performance issues | 18:39 |
| davidalles | The CSP is the Telco itself: both IaaS provider | 18:39 |
| ruan__he | kmalloc, maybe a driver will be a good choice, but at least we should start by making it as an option? | 18:40 |
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| davidalles | of the multiple Telco DC and the customer who deploys the workloads | 18:40 |
| kmalloc | the benefit is a driver can be developed out of tree you can build in all the logic to cooridnate the project-id sync. | 18:40 |
| kmalloc | and if you're liking it, we can consider it for in-tree. | 18:40 |
| kmalloc | or it could be on a feature branch | 18:40 |
| ruan__he | we can contribute to this feature firstly, and in charge of developping a driver later | 18:41 |
| * lbragstad thinks that could lead to interop issues | 18:41 | |
| kmalloc | so, let me be really clear, a "new API" is a big hurgle | 18:41 |
| kmalloc | hurdle | 18:41 |
| kmalloc | we cannot ever remove an API | 18:42 |
| kmalloc | so. | 18:42 |
| davidalles | to ALL: is a driver-logic acceptable when you accessed that 'V3 must control the generation of IDs; driver is installed by the CSP | 18:42 |
| davidalles | ... the 'system scoping' in other way | 18:42 |
| ruan__he | it's not a new API, but an option for a existing API | 18:42 |
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| kmalloc | the driver is below the API, so - the "make a project" generates an ID in the manager/controller layer | 18:42 |
| hrybacki | kmalloc: are modifications to an existing api considered a new api? | 18:42 |
| jdennis | no new API's, especially one that could be problematic | 18:42 |
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| kmalloc | ruan__he: it is NOT an option for an existing API | 18:43 |
| kmalloc | hrybacki: i'm going to -2 changes to the project_api for specifying the ID. | 18:43 |
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| kmalloc | this really needs to be a system-scope thing if we're doing it. | 18:43 |
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| kmalloc | i'm willing to be open to that. | 18:43 |
| kmalloc | just not a modification of the current project_api. | 18:44 |
| kmalloc | now.... | 18:44 |
| hrybacki | let's help ruan__he and davidalles develop a plan that is congruent with the core's thoughts | 18:44 |
| davidalles | driver could be acceptable: but could this be done as experiental in Queen? | 18:44 |
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| davidalles | because RedHat company is out distro editor and they are working on 'per Long Term Support' basis: Queen then 'T' version | 18:45 |
| kmalloc | davidalles: it is something that would be best on a feature branch of out of tree as expirimental- we've largely moved away from in-tree expirimental (though lbragstad could say I'm wrong and we can do that again, i'd be ok iwth it) | 18:45 |
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| kmalloc | so in driver logic, as a quick rundown of how it would work: | 18:45 |
| kmalloc | API request to make new project is received. the id is generated at the manager/controller layer | 18:45 |
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| kmalloc | the driver would check/sync the project ID to the participating clouds (with ACKs) -- this is not via public APIs though another mechanism to guarantee uniquness and acks / cloud was down and needs to get created ids after it comes back up cases | 18:46 |
| kmalloc | driver would then store the project id locally. | 18:46 |
| cmurphy | ++ | 18:47 |
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| lbragstad | so - we developed k2k specifically for this | 18:47 |
| kmalloc | you need to handle the sync logic, and the "catchup from downtime" logic in the external service / keystone-comes-back-on-line. | 18:47 |
| jdennis | kmalloc: acks being "yes, I can accept this id"? | 18:47 |
| kmalloc | jdennis: correct. or "I accepted and stored locally" | 18:47 |
| lbragstad | if there are performance issues with k2k, then it'd be good to see what those are and go fix those | 18:47 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: ++ | 18:47 |
| knikolla | lbragstad: ++ | 18:47 |
| kmalloc | jdennis: probably a combination of "i can and did accept" | 18:48 |
| lbragstad | because that means there are still issues in that implementation and it's not useable for what we designed it for | 18:48 |
| kmalloc | and I 100% get the desire for the same project_ids across deployments | 18:48 |
| kmalloc | i think that is a fine thing to strive towards, i worry about public apis to do the sync | 18:48 |
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| ruan__he | I haven't understand how the driver can garrantee the same projecd ID? | 18:48 |
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| kmalloc | ruan__he: the driver can modify the values stored. we only display the id in the response | 18:49 |
| cmurphy | at the manager layer it would have to query the other cloud to get the ID and then use that instead of generating its own | 18:49 |
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| kmalloc | so you could even ask "hey external service, issue me a unique-uuid-that-is-not-conflicted" you can do that | 18:49 |
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| ruan__he | it seems to be a good temporal solution in short term | 18:50 |
| davidalles | yep: seams possible: on site 'Y' or 'X', this request would result in 'the centralized ID generator knows the ID to be given because already allocate on site '1' | 18:50 |
| kmalloc | you're still dealing with something that is sync'd between sites, but if it is just a store of IDs you can do high-performance lookup table | 18:51 |
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| kmalloc | and that should avoid the legal troubles of syncing the actual keystone data | 18:51 |
| kmalloc | since it's all random (cryptographically generated) IDs and nothing else. | 18:51 |
| kmalloc | now, that said, it would still be a requirement that the IDs are UUID-like in form, since other projects require that. | 18:52 |
| kmalloc | (e.g. nova) | 18:52 |
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| kmalloc | i am very very concerned with changing the APIs and/or adding a new API. | 18:53 |
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| lbragstad | is it possible to get the performance metrics where k2k starts to become unusable? | 18:53 |
| knikolla | also look into https://github.com/openstack/mixmatch | 18:53 |
| kmalloc | but i would like to also fix k2k | 18:53 |
| knikolla | if you decide to go k2k | 18:53 |
| kmalloc | if there are real performance issues. | 18:53 |
| kmalloc | it seems like this is exactly what k2k is meant to fix. | 18:53 |
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| ruan__he | but if the modification of api doesn't impact others, I don't think that it will be an issue | 18:53 |
| knikolla | it's a k2k proxy with caching. | 18:53 |
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| hrybacki | I would still like to hear a ack/nack on the idea of running this as an experimental feature (for record) | 18:54 |
| lbragstad | that's my concern... we built something to solve this already, but we're going to try and solve it again by changing our API | 18:54 |
| kmalloc | ruan__he: you're missing the point. APIs are not allowed to be "config based behavior" in keystone. | 18:54 |
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| kmalloc | so, once we land a change it's forever | 18:54 |
| kmalloc | and we need to support it | 18:54 |
| knikolla | and we pledged to never remove v3. | 18:54 |
| kmalloc | we already built things for this, if they aren't working for perf reasons, i want to fix that | 18:54 |
| ruan__he | kmalloc, i get the point, that's why I called it an option | 18:55 |
| kmalloc | if they don't work for functional reasons. | 18:55 |
| kmalloc | then i want to supply more functional support, but adding/changing APIs is a large hurdle if it could be done behind the scenes cleanly and not impacting interop/security of the APIs (user-facing UX) | 18:55 |
| jdennis | ruan__he: there no such thing as an option, it's either in the API or not | 18:55 |
| lbragstad | the concern for an optional solution is that it can changed across deployments (which is something we've been trying to not do openstack-wide) | 18:55 |
| kmalloc | jdennis: ++ | 18:55 |
| lbragstad | it just makes interoperability really hard for consumers moving between clouds | 18:56 |
| kmalloc | i've -2'd a number of things that are "optional" proposed to keystone. Keystone should work 100% the same (API wise) across all deployments of that release. | 18:56 |
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| davidalles | ... OKi... because I am not a source code specialist: is this driver mechanism already available: can we use it inside the existing Queen code | 18:56 |
| ruan__he | kmalloc, but at the same time, we should improve keystone for new use cases | 18:57 |
| davidalles | without any source code modification ... ? or even on previous versions? | 18:57 |
| kmalloc | davidalles: you can load any driver via keystone's config | 18:57 |
| kmalloc | you could subclass the current one and write your logic over the top | 18:57 |
| kmalloc | so supply a driver and say "load this driver" | 18:57 |
| ruan__he | kmalloc, the way we use openstack becomes much more wide then before | 18:58 |
| cmurphy | there is some minimal documentation here https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/latest/contributor/developing-drivers.html | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | #link https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/latest/contributor/developing-drivers.html | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | bah - cmurphy beat me to it! | 18:58 |
| davidalles | understood: thanks.... Ruan, how to measure the work effort to develop the driver? staff*weeks and what's the level of knowledge to do it? | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | one minute remaining | 18:59 |
| davidalles | and how to share with out partner? | 18:59 |
| lbragstad | we can move to -keystone to finish this up if needed | 18:59 |
| hrybacki | apologies for the lack of open discussion | 18:59 |
| davidalles | brauld: are you there? | 18:59 |
| lbragstad | but the infra folks we need the meeting room soon :) | 18:59 |
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| cmurphy | i wrote an assignment driver myself, it only took a couple of days | 18:59 |
| cmurphy | a resource driver would not take that much work | 18:59 |
| kmalloc | drivers are easy imo | 18:59 |
| lbragstad | let's move to openstack-keystone | 18:59 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
| hrybacki | thanks folks | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 19 19:00:00 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-12-19-18.00.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-12-19-18.00.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-12-19-18.00.log.html | 19:00 |
| davidalles | OKi, so the conclusion it: BP is --2 | 19:00 |
| davidalles | external work at drver level:) | 19:00 |
| clarkb | anyone here for the infra meeting? | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | yes, you and me ;) | 19:00 |
| fungi | infra things double-plus good | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | fungi: squared? | 19:00 |
| ianw | and me :) | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 19:01:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| clarkb | We will be skipping next week's meeting on the 26th of December | 19:01 |
| clarkb | I won't be around and don't really expect anyone else to be around | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | Related to that we should probably be very slushy next week in the changes we make as I expect there won't be many of us around for significant periods of time | 19:02 |
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| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:03 | |
| clarkb | fungi modified the jenkins votes in gerrit | 19:03 |
| jeblair | there is no jenkins, only fungi | 19:03 |
| fungi | i did indeed. spammed the whole community. it was glorious | 19:03 |
| AJaeger | yeah! | 19:03 |
| clarkb | and at least one person asked about it so it didn't go compeltely unnoticed | 19:04 |
| fungi | i got plenty of comments through various channels | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-12-12-19.01.txt Minutes from last meeting | 19:04 |
| clarkb | that was the only action item from last time | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
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| clarkb | We don't have any current specs up for approval, but thank you to everyon that read and reviewed the top level project hosting spec, that spec is now in and currently being worked on | 19:05 |
| jeblair | there's still a work item up for grabs | 19:05 |
| jeblair | talk to me if you want to help | 19:05 |
| fungi | git servers, right? | 19:05 |
| jeblair | yep | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | #info talk to jeblair if you want to help with work items on the top level project hosting spec | 19:06 |
| clarkb | also everyone should feel free to review the changes that go up fro that :) | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:06 | |
| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Zuul v3 (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:07 | |
| clarkb | There are one and a half zuul v3 topic that are on the agenda. The first is closing down the zuulv3 issues etherpad and moving more towards typical bug tracking | 19:07 |
| clarkb | considering that we are no longer in firefighting mode I am in favor of this | 19:07 |
| jeblair | ++ | 19:07 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:08 |
| fungi | absolutely | 19:08 |
| mordred | also - thank god for not being in firefighting mode | 19:08 |
| * fungi hangs up asbestos suit | 19:08 | |
| jeblair | we should probably ask folks to file general job problems against their best guess as to the jobs repo involved -- openstack-zuul-jobs, zuul-jobs, project-config | 19:08 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ++ | 19:08 |
| jeblair | please don't file "my job doesn't work" against zuul itself :) | 19:08 |
| fungi | ... individual project repo | 19:09 |
| AJaeger | we still have some backlog for Zuulv3 - like the docs jobs that mordred has been working on... | 19:09 |
| AJaeger | but those are smallish fires ;) | 19:09 |
| ianw | in storyboard or launchpad? | 19:09 |
| clarkb | but ya if we can all take ~15 minutes to migrate the items we are familiar with I expect that will go quickly | 19:09 |
| jeblair | storyboard | 19:09 |
| fungi | AJaeger: these are more fires related to other efforts which have involved zuul jobs, not zuul v3 imposed breakage, right? | 19:09 |
| clarkb | ianw: the projects we care about are in storyboard so I think there | 19:09 |
| ianw | a few people have turned up an said "i have a bug not a story", so we might like to make that clear | 19:09 |
| jeblair | a bug is just a sad story | 19:10 |
| fungi | hah | 19:10 |
| fungi | i've also suggested in the past we might want a custom reporting view for the storyboard webclient which is a "bug/defect reporting" interface | 19:10 |
| jeblair | we should replace the etherpad content with a big "report bugs here" thing | 19:10 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/zuulv3-issues please take a moment to migrate the items you are familiar with on this etherpad to storyboard and try to be specific about using the correct repo (zuul-jobs, openstack-zuul-jobs, project-config, etc) | 19:10 |
| fungi | the current work in progress for custom reporting urls likely makes that a lot saner | 19:11 |
| AJaeger | fungi, we fix the problem that repos that need required-projects in docs publishing are failing to publish - so, that's a migration fallout | 19:11 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: oh, yep definitely | 19:11 |
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| fungi | i was thinking you meant teh pti-related docs job work | 19:11 |
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| clarkb | The other half an issue is how many changes are required to create new projects. This is lsited under general topics but I think zuul v3 is the major reason for this so maybe we want to talk about it in this context instead | 19:12 |
| AJaeger | fungi: but mordred added some more goals into it as well - like the pti work. so, those are related. | 19:12 |
| clarkb | hrm no dmsimard here | 19:12 |
| AJaeger | fungi: solving the docs publishing is a side effect of the PTI work | 19:12 |
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| fungi | got it | 19:12 |
| clarkb | but basically you have to create the project in gerrit first, then in zuul, then add jobs to it | 19:13 |
| clarkb | and that is because zuul needs to load the project from its source before it can do anything with it | 19:13 |
| jeblair | did we merge mordred's fix to bring this back down to 2 changes? | 19:13 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528375/ documents the process | 19:14 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I'm not aware of that change so I don't know | 19:14 |
| clarkb | is this the idea where we'd do zuul after gerrit in the ansible cron? | 19:14 |
| jeblair | AJaeger's change which you linked documents the 2 change process | 19:14 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yep | 19:14 |
| fungi | solving the need to split adding a project to zuul and adding jobs for the project (in project-config) isn't solvable without altering how zuul handles validating configuration changes right? | 19:15 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ah ok, the meeting agenda item still said 3 | 19:15 |
| jeblair | and yes, that change merged | 19:15 |
| mordred | clarkb: I think we did | 19:15 |
| mordred | yah | 19:15 |
| jeblair | #link 2 change process https://review.openstack.org/528744 | 19:15 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb, jeblair : I think the topic was added *before* mordred did his change, so I consider this void and propose to move on | 19:16 |
| jeblair | fungi: yep. if we consider that a problem, then it's a much different problem. | 19:16 |
| clarkb | I don't expect we'll be able to improve the number of changes much beyond that, are there other things we can do the make the process easier (documentation like AJaeger's change helps I'm sure) | 19:16 |
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| jeblair | we probably *could* but they would be more than simple bugfixes | 19:17 |
| fungi | seems hairy and fraught with possible security implications | 19:17 |
| AJaeger | let's merge my change for now - I had too many people just send on and think we need to be louder about it | 19:17 |
| jeblair | like extending zuul to dynamically evaluate main.yaml (crazy!) or not adding projects to project-config and only doing in-repo config. | 19:17 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ya I think we improved docs we can table this and see how it goes | 19:18 |
| jeblair | ++ | 19:18 |
| fungi | the latter solution of the two seems more likely to be viable, and only loses us the ability to have an explicit system-required project-template | 19:18 |
| fungi | (which could probably be resolved somewhat safely by implementing support for implicit project-templates?) | 19:19 |
| jeblair | oh, there was a change for that... did it merge? | 19:19 |
| clarkb | implicit project templates meaning every project gets system-required template regardless of any explicit config? | 19:19 |
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| clarkb | also new projects are an excellent place to start with in repo configs :) | 19:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 19:20 |
| fungi | if that's already a thing, then maybe we don't need a second project-config change for projects who want to define jobs in-repo | 19:20 |
| jeblair | yeah, tobiash had a change | 19:20 |
| mordred | neat | 19:20 |
| jeblair | i'm having trouble finding it | 19:21 |
| jeblair | https://review.openstack.org/513368 | 19:21 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/513368 implicit project-templates in zuul | 19:21 |
| jeblair | still open but has a +2 from me | 19:21 |
| fungi | so... soon to become possibly simpler to add new projects | 19:22 |
| clarkb | cool, sounds like there is work in progress ( and some done) to make this whole project addition process easier | 19:22 |
| clarkb | any other zuulv3 related items? | 19:23 |
| jeblair | yeah, i think considering that generally the only thing we expect a new project to do in project-config is add system-required, if we drop that, we could get down to one change | 19:23 |
| jeblair | with no loss in functionality | 19:23 |
| jeblair | or substantial change in polices | 19:23 |
| mordred | oh yeah - that change. I thought I'd reviewed that | 19:23 |
| jeblair | mordred: i think you expressed pleasure about it | 19:23 |
| jeblair | which is like a review | 19:24 |
| clarkb | not hearing about other zuulv3 things so moving on | 19:25 |
| clarkb | I'm going to skip dmsimard's other topic in hopes that dmsimard joins us soon and talk about the control plane upgrades first | 19:25 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:25 |
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| clarkb | as I mentioned in an email on friday I think we were reasonably successful with the control plane upgrade sprint | 19:26 |
| fungi | i have a sort of zv3-related topic i didn't put on the agenda and was saving for open discussion | 19:26 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 19:26 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ok I expect we will have time at the end of the meeting | 19:26 |
| fungi | though it's sort of related to the upgrade sprint as well | 19:26 |
| clarkb | oh well then maybe talk about it now ;) | 19:27 |
| jeblair | it is conveniently related to all agenda topics | 19:27 |
| clarkb | I did want to mention I thought jeblairs idea of each of us trying to knock out a service per week or so would be nice | 19:27 |
| fungi | basically we still have some v2-specific servers hanging out there and not only are they potentially wasting resources now but they're somewhat of a liability | 19:27 |
| clarkb | keeps the momentum going and we don't ignore the problem until the next rush | 19:27 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: +1 | 19:28 |
| clarkb | fungi: at htis point it is just zuul.openstack.org and nodepool.openstack.org right? | 19:28 |
| jeblair | clarkb: cool... i should get started -- i haven't done one this week :) | 19:28 |
| fungi | e.g., rackspace decided to do the reboot-based migration of zuul.o.o a day later than they told us, so it came up with the service running and commenting on changes for several days | 19:28 |
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| jeblair | zuul.openstack.org has an http redirect, and nodepool.o.o is still our zookeeper server? | 19:28 |
| pabelanger | for nodepool.o.o we need to decide how to migrate zookeeper into zk01.o.o/zk02.o.o/zk03.o.o | 19:28 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair: yes | 19:28 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yes. I think for zuul.o.o we can just cname to zuulv3.openstack.org? | 19:28 |
| ianw | clarkb: openstackstatus/etherpad/ethercalc should all be ready-ish to go | 19:29 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: we should | 19:29 |
| fungi | wondering if we can safely remove the zuul.o.o a/aaaa records and replace with a cname to zuulv3.o.o for now | 19:29 |
| fungi | if so, that should allow us to drop the redirect/delete the old server? | 19:29 |
| pabelanger | replacement zookeeper is up and running, we just need to confirm it works as expected (plus migrate) | 19:29 |
| jeblair | fungi: can we add a vhost on zuulv3.o.o to keep the redirect rule? | 19:29 |
| fungi | jeblair: ahh, good point, or a catch-all redirect on the zuulv3 vhost | 19:29 |
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| jeblair | ++ | 19:29 |
| fungi | assuming zuulv3.o.o is the default vhost though, it may "just work" anyway? | 19:30 |
| jeblair | and then, when we redeploy on zuul.o.o, which we should do soon (maybe after the puppet-openstackci stuff lands?) we can do the same in reverse. | 19:30 |
| clarkb | #agreed add vhost to zuulv3.o.o and redirect zuul.openstack.org to zuulv3.openstack.org then when we redeploy zuul.openstack.org we can do the same in reverse | 19:30 |
| clarkb | something like ^ | 19:30 |
| clarkb | that will allow us to delete existing zuul.openstack.org | 19:30 |
| pabelanger | wfm | 19:31 |
| jeblair | yeah -- whatever allows us to accomplish that :) | 19:31 |
| fungi | i can safely test whether a redirect is needed or abusing the default vhost is sufficient | 19:31 |
| fungi | and then we can move formward with better information | 19:31 |
| fungi | er, forward | 19:31 |
| clarkb | for nodepool/zookeeper my reading of zk docs is that we can't easily do an online migration of data from existing single node cluster into new 3 node cluster | 19:31 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: did you find out if we can add zk* to the current nodepool.o.o zk system? | 19:31 |
| jeblair | oh :( ^ | 19:31 |
| clarkb | we can take a downtime stop old zk, copy all data to the other nodes then start zk on other nodes and point nodepool services to new cluster | 19:31 |
| jeblair | and zuul | 19:32 |
| clarkb | ya | 19:32 |
| pabelanger | yah, that's basically what I found too | 19:32 |
| clarkb | or we could take a downtime and just build new state on new cluster | 19:32 |
| fungi | so no expand/contract for migrating clusters i guess | 19:32 |
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| clarkb | fungi: not with the version we have aiui, the next version would allow it if you can ninja interactive management socket commands | 19:32 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: we'd need to build / upload images for that | 19:32 |
| fungi | was it just that it's unsafe to have an even number of cluster members, or were there additional issues? | 19:32 |
| tobiash | how long do image rebuilds and uploads take in openstack land? | 19:33 |
| fungi | sounds like the challenge ran deeper. okay | 19:33 |
| pabelanger | which we could start now with images, if we move 1 builder to new zookeeper | 19:33 |
| clarkb | fungi: the way I understand it is the existing 3 node cluster has quorum and numbers, so will win out if we join the old node to it | 19:33 |
| fungi | ahh | 19:33 |
| jeblair | clarkb: what if we do one at a time? | 19:33 |
| clarkb | fungi: the way you work around that is with the management socket stuff where you say "these N nodes are from the other side of quorum" | 19:33 |
| jeblair | tobiash: it used to take a day? but i think it got faster... | 19:33 |
| fungi | tobiash: a few hours at this point i think, but i haven't looked in a while so don't have hard numbers | 19:34 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I couldn't find any docs that said that would work it was all either do the shutdown and start or do the newer management stuff | 19:34 |
| tobiash | so just rebuilding takes probably too ling | 19:34 |
| tobiash | s/ling/long | 19:34 |
| pabelanger | yah, we can do an image in 60mins build / upload with nb04 I think | 19:34 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: we could even move both builders, continue to just use old images on old side and then switch over | 19:34 |
| pabelanger | nb03 is much longer due to network limits | 19:34 |
| jeblair | tobiash: yeah, long enough that if we did that, we'd want to start up a builder ahead of time like pabelanger suggested | 19:34 |
| clarkb | we'd just want to do that in a shortish period of time | 19:34 |
| fungi | clarkb: and couldn't incrementally add the new cluster members to the "old" cluster of one? | 19:34 |
| pabelanger | yah, if we want to use old images for a day or so, we can do that | 19:35 |
| mordred | the data isn't too huge, yeah? so a downtime to export/import data wouldn't be super long most likely? | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | might be a good test too | 19:35 |
| clarkb | fungi: I couldn't find any documentation on how to do that | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | of zookeeper | 19:35 |
| clarkb | mordred: correct its mostly about coordinating all the things I think | 19:35 |
| fungi | so zk basically has a predetermined cluster size you can't expand later i guess? | 19:35 |
| mordred | we could schedule that for whenever our next gerrit project rename downtime might be | 19:35 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya that was the sense I got like you didn't want to add data until you had a quorum | 19:36 |
| fungi | thanks, good to keep in mind for future scaling plans | 19:36 |
| clarkb | its also possible I just didn't find the relevant docs or they haven't been written :) | 19:36 |
| fungi | i guess clustering with zk doesn't eliminate the need for forklift migrations | 19:37 |
| clarkb | mordred: or we just pcik a slow day and do it separately | 19:37 |
| mordred | yah | 19:37 |
| clarkb | (to reduce things in flux) | 19:37 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 19:37 |
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| clarkb | I know a lot of people are not around that first week of january but I will be here to do things like this if we want | 19:37 |
| fungi | speaking of upcoming outages, we still need to do the mysql charset migration for gerrit right? | 19:38 |
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| clarkb | fungi: yes | 19:38 |
| clarkb | (but its also getting close to feature freeze and release and all that) | 19:38 |
| clarkb | so anything we decide on we should run by the release team | 19:38 |
| fungi | yup | 19:38 |
| fungi | similarly, we need an outage to fix nova-specs | 19:38 |
| fungi | and of course pending project rename(s) | 19:39 |
| AJaeger | and there's a rename request for some months which needs an outage | 19:39 |
| fungi | wonder how many of these things we can safely roll together | 19:39 |
| clarkb | for the project rename front we said last week? or was it week before last we just need to write down what the new process is in zuulv3 land | 19:39 |
| clarkb | I have not had time to look at that with the psrint and other stuff going on | 19:39 |
| clarkb | if someone else wants to do that the help is much appreciated :) | 19:40 |
| fungi | mostly to do with order of operations merging changes? | 19:40 |
| clarkb | ya basically keeping zuul happy as things move | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | (remove project from zuul, stop gerrit, rename things, start gerrit, add back to zuul with new name or similar) | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | pabelanger: were you still planning on sorting out the zk stuff? | 19:42 |
| fungi | etherpad-based maintenance plans have been effective in the past | 19:42 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: which stuff is that? | 19:42 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: deciding on which upgrade ethod we want to do and writing it down | 19:43 |
| mordred | fungi: we're going to need to figure out how to land the change to the project's zuul.yaml file to do the project rename there ... | 19:43 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: Oh, Yup. I can do that | 19:43 |
| clarkb | #action pabelanger write down zookeeper migration doc/plan | 19:43 |
| mordred | OR - get around to implementing the patch to remove the need for the name field in a project stanza in in-repo configs | 19:43 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: I think with that we can give release team accurate data on "this is the impact when can we move ahead" | 19:44 |
| fungi | mordred: oh, yep, great point | 19:44 |
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| mordred | otherwise we're going to need to force-merge things | 19:44 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: agree | 19:44 |
| mordred | so maybe we should write the remove name patch | 19:44 |
| jeblair | mordred: ++ i think we can/should get that change in before 3.0 | 19:44 |
| mordred | since we want it anyway | 19:44 |
| fungi | mordred: maybe we'll get lucky this time and the project being renamed doesn't have any in-repo jobs yet | 19:44 |
| fungi | but that does make it more complicated if they do | 19:44 |
| mordred | fungi: well - unfortunatley, I have a repo rename ot add to the list - and it has in-repo jobs | 19:44 |
| pabelanger | oh yes | 19:45 |
| clarkb | mordred: do we want to say fixing that feature is a prereq for renames then write down the process with that in mind? | 19:45 |
| pabelanger | forgot about that | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | mordred: so, remove in-repo jobs first, rename, readd? ;( | 19:45 |
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| mordred | oh. OH GOD - I just realized another issue ... | 19:45 |
| mordred | required-projects | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | oh fun ;( | 19:45 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think you may be self nomimating yourself to write down this stuff :) | 19:45 |
| fungi | or we configure zuul to ignore in-repo job configs from that project and have a no-op job phase for it until the in-repo configs are fixed | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | do we need "aliases", to tell zuul about renames? | 19:45 |
| clarkb | but ya there are enough corner cases that we should write down a plan and consider these issues | 19:45 |
| fungi | ahh, yes any projects requiring that project are also a liability | 19:46 |
| mordred | fungi: I think required-projects entries are the larger issue | 19:46 |
| fungi | maybe this is the point at which we declare we will no longer support renaming git repositories? ;) | 19:46 |
| mordred | sincethose could be quite literally anywhere | 19:46 |
| fungi | (only half-joking) | 19:46 |
| clarkb | mordred: fungi can I pencil you in for doing that? (since you are doing it now anyways) | 19:46 |
| fungi | clarkb: sure | 19:46 |
| mordred | yah | 19:47 |
| clarkb | #action mordred and fungi sort out issues with project renames in a zuulv3 world and write down process for renaming projects | 19:47 |
| fungi | you can at least pencil me in for drafting the announcement taht we've decided renaming git repos is too complex to support from now on ;) | 19:47 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ha | 19:47 |
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| AJaeger | ++ | 19:47 |
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| mordred | the new rename method is to retire the old repo and import it with a new name | 19:48 |
| clarkb | just so we don't forget I know things are slowing down due to holidays but lets try to keep the momentum up on the xenial upgrades. I plan to review ianw's changes for ether* to help out there | 19:48 |
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| clarkb | I'll also likely work to upgrade logstash.openstack.org this week | 19:48 |
| fungi | how do we feel about advance notification timeframe for the gerrit xenial upgrade? | 19:49 |
| ianw | mordred: we started an etherpad at the last rename point -> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rename-2017-10-20 . i'm still happy to summarise what *actually* happens into documentation | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | we also need to discuss git.o.o, I jus checked and they are not upgraded to 7.4 yet. We seem to not run yum update daily | 19:49 |
| fungi | are we still concerned about people with "special" firewall rules for the gerrit server's ip addresses? | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | so, we likley need to do rolling updates there | 19:49 |
| ianw | but i imagine initially we should just etherpad it out, and then see what happens in real life | 19:49 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: that sounds like a bug | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: most likely yes | 19:49 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: get daily updates working then do rolling restarts | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 19:49 |
| fungi | ianw: if we budget a lengthy outage for zuul, i think that's a fine plan | 19:50 |
| mordred | fungi: probably so ... should we consider shifting the gerrit server to a cloud that lets us create a long-lived neutron port? | 19:50 |
| clarkb | re Gerrit, I was thinking after ptg might be best just with everything zuul related and release happening between now and then | 19:50 |
| mordred | like, I know on vexxhost, for instance, one can create a port, then attach that port to the server (like floating ips, but without nat) - so we could have the dns entries point to the standalone port and not to the one that just happens to be attached to the vm | 19:51 |
| fungi | mordred: i'm more inclined to tell people that occasional ip address changes are a way of life and if you need access to the gerrit ssh api and a week warning that its ip address is changing isn't sufficient for you to get your corporate firewall overlords to adjust an exception in their egress filters, it's not our problem | 19:51 |
| mordred | fungi: "welcome to cloud" | 19:51 |
| clarkb | also https does work and most corps allow https out | 19:51 |
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| jeblair | remember also gerrit needs reverse dns on v4 and v6, and 64GB of ram | 19:52 |
| fungi | right, i expect this to mostly be an issue for third-party ci systems which need the ssh event stream | 19:52 |
| clarkb | oh right it is a mail server so reverse dns is important | 19:52 |
| fungi | at least until we can integrate mqtt support into zuul ;) | 19:52 |
| clarkb | also we should do review-dev first | 19:52 |
| mordred | well, we can get the reverse done at vexxhost too - but we can also keep it where it is | 19:52 |
| jeblair | fungi: then we can deal with firewalls and the mqtt port? | 19:52 |
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| clarkb | make sure java 8 doesn't break anything then settle on a review.o.o plan | 19:53 |
| fungi | jeblair: yep! | 19:53 |
| pabelanger | I'd like to help with gerrit update this time around if possible | 19:53 |
| pabelanger | I haven't done one yet | 19:53 |
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| * mordred nominates pabelanger to do all the upgrading | 19:53 | |
| fungi | jeblair: except we are also working on websockets proxying for mqtt | 19:53 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: sweet, I can help walk through it on review dev if you want | 19:53 |
| fungi | so maybe not if they allow https | 19:53 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: great | 19:53 |
| jeblair | fungi: cool, so everyone's okay except the folks with MITM corporate proxies that don't support ws:// :) | 19:54 |
| clarkb | but ya I think we should likely get review-dev where we want it. updated database, updated charset, updated to xenail then schedule production | 19:54 |
| clarkb | if we roughly schedule now and say production after PTG that still gives us through end of january to have ~1 month of notice | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | and I'm happy to work with pabelanger to get review-dev side going | 19:55 |
| pabelanger | +1 | 19:55 |
| fungi | would be nice to also not have it linger so long that it impacts our ability to upgrade the gerrit release early next cycle | 19:55 |
| clarkb | ya though this is all prerequisite work for 2.14 anyways | 19:56 |
| fungi | i'm assuming we want to decouple the distro upgrade and service upgrade | 19:56 |
| clarkb | so if we get it done on review-dev we can then sort out the 2.14 upgarde there | 19:56 |
| fungi | upgrade distro first obviously since it's a prereq | 19:56 |
| clarkb | (prereq because 2.14 needs java8) | 19:57 |
| clarkb | we are almost out of time | 19:57 |
| clarkb | #topic open discussion | 19:57 |
| fungi | i just mean i'm assuming we want to run gerrit 2.13 on xenial for at least a little while in production and not do xenial+2.14 all in one go | 19:57 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya | 19:57 |
| fungi | (or 2.15+ by then) | 19:57 |
| clarkb | also did we lose the bot? | 19:57 |
| clarkb | oh hey we did | 19:58 |
| fungi | 1941 <-- openstack (~openstack@openstack/openstack) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | 19:58 |
| clarkb | I'm guessing it was the http url fix that did it | 19:58 |
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| fungi | yeah, i forgot that would restart it automatically | 19:58 |
| clarkb | well thats about it for time. Enjoy the holidays and you can find us in #openstack-infra | 19:59 |
| fungi | but it did indeed merge during the meeting | 19:59 |
| jeblair | thanks! | 19:59 |
| fungi | i'll go clean up channel topics now | 19:59 |
| AJaeger | thanks, fungi! | 19:59 |
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| clarkb | fungi: thanks that allows me to find lunch | 20:00 |
| pabelanger | good year! | 20:00 |
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