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samP#startmeeting masakari04:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 17 04:00:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)"04:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'masakari'04:00
samPHi all for masakari04:00
samPtpatil: niraj_singh: hi04:00
samPLet's start,04:00
samP#topic Bugs/Patches04:01
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samPAny bugs or patches need to discuss?04:01
samP#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487430/04:02
patchbotpatch 487430 - masakari - Add db purge support04:02
samPLGTM, please address the latest comments. Then we can merge this.04:02
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tpatilall comments are addressed04:03
tpatilI have voted +204:03
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tpatilneed another +204:03
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tpatilshould the max rows is zero instead?04:05
samPtpatil: It seems to me, there are some minor comments from Abhishek and Kwan04:05
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samPtpatil: yep, are those addressed?04:05
tpatilAbhishek comments are trivial. Since the patch was uploaded in 2017, since in the copyright 2017 is mentioned04:05
tpatilhence in the copyright 2017 is mentioned04:06
tpatilAnother comment from Louis is comparing with line 183, should the max rows is zero instead?04:06
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tpatilIMO, max_rows -1 will delete all records based on age_in_days04:07
samPtpatil: agree on abhishek's comment.04:07
tpatilyou mean 2018 is correct?04:07
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samPtpatil: My understanding is 2017 is correct in this case, cause patch was submitted on 2017/04:09
tpatilsamP: OK04:09
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tpatilmax_rows zero is invalid value04:10
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samPtpatil: you are correct about second comment04:10
samPtpatil: -1 is LGTM04:10
samPtpatil: thanks04:10
tpatilI will request Pooja to reply to these comments and then someone should review the patch again04:11
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samPtpatil: since we discussed here, I will put +2 and link to this discussion. That will merge the patch04:12
tpatilsamP: Sounds good to me. Thank you04:12
samPtpatil: NP.04:13
tpatilanother patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560237/04:13
patchbotpatch 560237 - masakari-specs - Add Rocky specs repo04:13
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tpatilIs it ok to move the template.rst from respective releases folder to specs folder?04:13
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tpatilFor example, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560237/1/doc/source/specs/queens/implemented/queens_template.rst04:14
patchbotpatch 560237 - masakari-specs - Add Rocky specs repo04:14
samPtpatil:  it used to be a symbolic link04:14
tpatilshould be placed inside https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560237/1/doc/source/specs/queens_template.rst04:14
patchbotpatch 560237 - masakari-specs - Add Rocky specs repo04:14
tpatilyes, it should be a symbolic link04:15
Dinesh_Bhor_samP: Yes, you are right. I will fix this.04:15
tpatilDinesh_Bhor: Thank you04:15
samPDinesh_Bhor_: thans04:15
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samPsorry, little disruption..04:18
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samPtpatil: Dinesh_Bhor_ : replace the *template.rst in implemented/ with symbolic link to *template.rst in /spec/queens04:19
samP ^^ am I correct/04:19
tpatilor we can simple put actual queens template.rst inside specs instead of specs/queens04:20
tpatilWhat do you guys prefer?04:20
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Dinesh_Bhor_There should have respective template for each release if we decide to add/remove any tags to format.04:21
Dinesh_Bhor_s/format/spec format.04:21
samPtpatil: well, nova have templates in nova-specs/specs and link them to other places04:21
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tpatilI'm asking to follow on nova path itself04:22
samPtpatil: I prefer nova way of handling things04:22
Dinesh_Bhor_okay. I will fix this similar to nova04:23
samPDinesh_Bhor_: thanks04:23
samPAny other bug/patches need to discuss?04:24
tpatilTalking about openstaacksdk release, we will need to submit patch to release newer version of openstacksdk by ourselves04:25
tpatilunder openstack/releases04:26
samPtpatil: Sorry, I couldn't discuss this with release team yet..04:26
samPtpatil: do we have do it our self??04:26
tpatilWe can push patch similar to this one : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533624/04:27
patchbotpatch 533624 - releases - Release python-openstacksdk 0.10.0 (MERGED)04:27
samPtpatil: Normally, some one form release liaison of the project or PTL submit those patches...AFAIK04:29
samPtpatil: May be it is different in sdk project.04:29
samPand Motoki san is a SDK core. (I think)04:30
samPAny way I will ask right after this meeting.04:30
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tpatilsamP: Thank you04:30
amotokisamP: I am OSC core. I am not a core of SDK bu helping SDK project.04:31
samPamotoki: Hi, motoki-san04:31
samPamotoki: We need a new version of sdk to released04:32
amotokisamP: with masakari support?04:32
samPamotoki: No, with latest fix for proxy04:33
amotokisamP: mordred is the PTL of OpenStackSDK. he is the right contact.04:33
samPamotoki: sure, I will contact him right after this meeting with details. Thanks04:34
amotokisamP: if you have questions, I can help.04:34
samPamotoki: sure, That's really nice. I will tag you04:35
samPtpatil: I will get back to you with details.04:36
tpatilsamP: OK04:36
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samPamotoki: Thank you in advance..!04:37
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samP#topic Discussion Points04:37
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samPtpatil: Any update on ansible support?04:38
tpatilniraj_singh is working on it04:38
tpatil#link : https://github.com/NirajSingh90/openstack-ansible-os_masakari04:38
niraj_singhmasakari ansible specs merged. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556756/04:38
patchbotpatch 556756 - openstack-ansible-specs - Add specs to create masakari role (MERGED)04:38
samPtpatil: niraj_singh: Thanks.04:39
tpatilso far, it's possible to install masakari-api and masakari-engine04:39
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tpatilNiraj is working on deploying masakari-monitors on compute node04:40
samPtpatil: niraj_singh: great news! Thanks for implementing this.04:41
niraj_singhCurrently Evrar form ansible want to include this github repo into openstack-ansible this week.04:41
niraj_singhmeans openstack namespace04:42
samPniraj_singh: got it.04:42
niraj_singhso currently i am working on the docs and other files.04:42
niraj_singhso that they can review it.04:42
samPniraj_singh: understand. Thanks.04:43
tpatilEven if the docs are not complete, it should be possible to move your GitHub repo code into open stack GitHub repo04:43
samPtpatil: correct. Is it become a sub repo of OSA project?04:44
tpatilI think it will be separate project similar to https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova04:45
samPtpatil: niraj_singh: yep, it is a separate repo as you said. But it repo owns to OSA team04:46
samP#link https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/rocky/openstack-ansible.yaml04:48
tpatilThat's correct. All patches will be reviewed by OSA team. We cannot approve any patches04:48
samPtpatil: yep, but we could review them from Masakari prospective04:49
samPniraj_singh: Let us know if you need any help on this.04:49
Dinesh_Bhor_yes, we need to.04:49
niraj_singhsamP: We also need to add pacemaker for this role.04:50
tpatilapprove meaning +2/-2, we will definitely review patches04:50
niraj_singhi will need help on that part.04:50
samPtpatil: thanks. got it.04:51
tpatilniraj_singh: There is already a pacemaker role that we can reused, correct?04:51
samPcan you please send the link to that?04:51
samPniraj_singh: ah..OK04:52
samPniraj_singh: seems like we need to update this role a bit for latest04:53
tpatilit's not part of openstack git repo04:53
samPtpatil: yep, it is not.04:54
niraj_singhthere is another one https://github.com/devgateway/ansible-role-pacemaker04:54
samPsince I could not find any Licence for above code, we can only refer this code.04:54
tpatilIs it used by any of the projects from OpenStack?04:54
samPAFAIK, we dont have pacemaker role in OSA.04:55
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samPor you could ask cluster LAB ML04:56
samPI think it is better to ask in cluster LAB ML for any details about ansible role for pacemaker and corosync04:57
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samP#link https://clusterlabs.org/04:58
samPtpatil: thanks. same above04:58
tpatilsamP: OK04:58
samPWe only have 2 mins left.04:58
samPI am planning to submit patches for RPM packaging and Ubuntu packaging04:58
samPWill let you know more details.04:59
samPnee to finish this meeting...04:59
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samPPlease use #openstack-masakari on Freenode or openstack-dev ML with [masakari] for further discussions05:00
samPThanks all05:00
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slaweq_#startmeeting neutron_ci16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 17 16:00:30 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci'16:00
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slaweq_jlibosva: haleyb: are You there? :)16:01
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jlibosvaI am here16:01
haleybhi, but i need to run home so will miss :2016:01
slaweq_yes :)16:02
slaweq_ihar: new nick?16:02
haleybassign me all the bugs :)16:02
slaweq_haleyb: sure16:02
jlibosvaall the bugs, not just the Neutron ones16:02
slaweq_ok, let's start16:02
slaweq_#topic Actions from previous meetings16:03
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slaweq_haleyb to continue testing why router migrations tests fails16:03
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slaweq_haleyb: any update on this one?16:04
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slaweq_ok, so I guess not, let's move on then16:05
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slaweq_next one was16:05
slaweq_haleyb to continue testing why router migrations tests fails16:05
slaweq_slaweq will check old gate-failure bugs16:05
slaweq_so, again I didn't have time to go through this list yet16:05
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slaweq_but I will try to do it this week16:06
slaweq_#action slaweq will check old gate-failure bugs16:06
slaweq_next one16:06
slaweq_yamahata to fix issues with openstack-tox-py35-with-neutron-lib-master periodic job16:06
yamahataI think it's fixed and it can be confirmed health check16:07
slaweq_yes, I saw that periodic jobs are passing now16:07
slaweq_thx a lot for help16:07
slaweq_ok, next one16:08
slaweq_haleyb will mark router migration tests are unstable16:08
slaweq_I think it was done already16:08
mlavalleI +2ed that patch yesterday16:08
patchbotpatch 561322 - neutron-tempest-plugin - Mark DVR/HA migration tests unstable (MERGED)16:08
slaweq_it is this one probably16:09
slaweq_so it's done16:09
slaweq_and last but not least16:09
slaweq_agreed after meeting with mlavalle :)16:09
slaweq_mlavalle to makes ovsfw scenario job voting16:09
mlavallethat was taken care of by jlibosva16:09
slaweq_I think that jlibosva did it and it's now voting16:09
jlibosvayep it is voting now16:10
slaweq_thx jlibosva16:10
mlavallejlibosva: I told you, he was going to come after me ;-)16:10
slaweq_today I also pushed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561930/ related to this one16:10
patchbotpatch 561930 - openstack-infra/project-config - Change label for neutron-tempest-ovsfw to "voting"16:10
jlibosvahehe :)16:10
slaweq_to change job name in grafana16:10
slaweq_ok, so that's all about actions from previous week16:11
slaweq_#topic Grafana16:11
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slaweq_I checked today graphs from last 7 days and it looks quite good16:12
jlibosvaI like how dvr-multinode goes down after router migration tests are skipped :)16:12
slaweq_except problems with pip 10 and lower-constraints which caused (almost) all tests failing all the time for last few days16:12
slaweq_but those problems should be already fixed and jobs are getting better today again16:13
slaweq_jlibosva: yes, dvr-multinode job is much better now :)16:13
iharwhy gate tempest jobs so bad? is it because not many patches merged?16:13
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slaweq_ihar: might be - please not that in last 3 days nothing was merged probably16:14
slaweq_because of this issue with lower-constraints job and ryu package16:14
jlibosvayeah, we had one patch merged on 14th and then 2 patches merged today16:14
jlibosvaand that's it16:15
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iharyeah. that's what I am saying, maybe that's because the number of data points is so low so average was skewed by an outlier.16:15
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slaweq_ok then :)16:15
slaweq_do You have anything to add?16:16
slaweq_or we can go to talk about some specific job types?16:16
jlibosvalooks like we're good here16:16
slaweq_ok then16:17
slaweq_#topic Functional16:17
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slaweq_today I saw failure like http://logs.openstack.org/67/556667/20/check/neutron-functional/71b2acc/logs/testr_results.html.gz in functional tests16:17
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slaweq_and I think that I saw same issue at least one more time last week16:18
slaweq_maybe it's not big problem yet but I wanted to mention about it16:18
jlibosvathat might mean the firewall blink is not fixed16:18
jlibosvaI'll have a look16:19
slaweq_or at least there is some corner case when it is failing16:19
slaweq_thx jlibosva16:19
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slaweq_#action jlibosva take a look on failing ovsfw blink functional test16:19
slaweq_ok, next topic16:20
slaweq_#topic Fullstack16:20
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slaweq_nothing very urgent on my side for fullstack currently16:20
slaweq_but I found today one failed security groups test  http://logs.openstack.org/12/470912/38/check/neutron-fullstack/ba16b38/logs/testr_results.html.gz so I will take a look on it during the week16:21
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slaweq_#action slaweq will check failed SG fullstack test16:21
slaweq_do You have anything to add according to fullstack?16:22
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slaweq_so next topic16:23
slaweq_#topic Scenarios16:23
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slaweq_as jlibosva told already dvr-multinode job is getting better with skipped migration tests :)16:24
slaweq_let's see this week what failure rate it will have without those tests16:24
slaweq_other scenario jobs looks quite good now IMO16:24
* ihar thrilled16:24
jlibosvawe still have the trunk failing occasionally that I'm looking at. I deployed multinode dvr environment and I'm not able to reproduce the issue locally. I ran the tests probably around 100 times16:24
slaweq_I know that it wasn't so common failure reason for this job so it might be hard to reproduce16:25
slaweq_jlibosva: it might be hard to reproduce it locally :/16:26
jlibosvait never failed for me16:27
slaweq_did You checked logs from such failed job? Do You have any idea what could be the problem there?16:28
jlibosvaI suspect wrong order of rpc messages about remote security group and prepare_port_filter. the logs contain error where vlan tag can't be found in ovsdb for given subport/trunk16:29
jlibosvathat means ovs firewall cannot get correct zone to be used in conntrack as the zone number corresponds with the local vlan tag of given port16:29
jlibosvaso then all traffic is dropped16:29
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jlibosvawhich would explain the SSH connection issue16:29
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jlibosvabut I can't find a reason why the vlan tag is not present in the ovsdb16:30
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slaweq_maybe You should add some additional debug logs in agent and wait for new failure to check it?16:31
jlibosvait also seems that the scenario job doesn't have indexed console output in logstash16:31
jlibosvayeah, I plan to log snapshot of openflows per ovs firewall action, so we can see the state of openflows at the time of failure16:32
slaweq_yeah, I was talking about some time ago but when I didn't need it anymore I forgot about it :/16:32
slaweq_ok, so You will continue work or this, right?16:33
iharjlibosva: why isn't it in logstash?16:33
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jlibosvaihar: I do not know :)16:33
iharyou mean console.html not indexed?16:33
iharor whatever it is named now16:33
jlibosvait's now the job-output.txt or something like that16:33
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jlibosvabut yeah, that one16:34
iharweird. I can take a look at that one16:34
slaweq_it's job-output.txt.gz16:34
jlibosvaihar: first step would be to make sure I'm not lying :)16:34
iharyeah sure :)16:34
iharI will keep you honest and shame in public if you aren't!16:34
iharslaweq_: add an action16:35
slaweq_#action jlibosva will check if job output are indexed in logstash16:35
jlibosvaslaweq_: ihar :)16:36
slaweq_ihar: here You go :)16:36
jlibosvaslaweq_: ihar will check16:36
slaweq_ah, sorry16:36
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jlibosvaI mean, I just checked and I still cannot see it16:36
slaweq_#action ihar will check if job output are indexed in logstash16:36
iharyes sir16:37
slaweq_ok :)16:37
slaweq_so, moving on?16:38
slaweq_#topic Rally16:38
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slaweq_as from grafana it looks that rally is fine now16:38
slaweq_so I think that we don't need to talk about it too much :)16:39
slaweq_at least You have something to add here16:39
iharthere was an email from rally folks about openstack plugin being spun off rally. shouldn't affect us but worth being aware.16:39
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iharapparently rally is more than openstack :)16:40
slaweq_thx ihar16:40
mlavallegood to know16:41
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slaweq_ok, so can we move to next topic then?16:42
mlavalleI'd say so16:42
slaweq_#topic Periodic16:42
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slaweq_here I just wanted to mention that it looks fine currently16:42
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slaweq_looks that yamahata's fix works fine :)16:43
slaweq_thx once again yamahata16:43
slaweq_and the last topic is16:44
slaweq_#topic Gate16:44
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slaweq_here I also don't have anything to talk for today - except this tempest job which ihar mentioned before it looks good IMO16:45
slaweq_do You want to talk anything here?16:45
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slaweq_or do You anything else to talk about today?16:46
iharI don't. I think if the chair believes there is nothing to cover we can as well skip sections and leave the rest for open discussion16:46
slaweq_#topic Open Discussion16:47
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slaweq_so do You want to talk about something else related to CI?16:47
jlibosvaI don't have anything16:47
iharI have nothing16:48
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slaweq_mlavalle: ?16:48
slaweq_ok, so thank You16:48
jlibosva11 minutes back, yay :)16:48
slaweq_and enjoy Your free 11 minutes :)16:48
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mlavallegood job slaweq_16:49
jlibosvathanks, bye16:49
openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr 17 16:49:00 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:49
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mlavalleCI seems to be under control. Thanks for your hard work16:49
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clarkbhello anyone here for the infra meeting?19:00
clarkblooks like someone fixed the topic19:00
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clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
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openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 17 19:01:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
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clarkb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:01
clarkb#topic Announcements19:02
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clarkbI don't have any19:02
corvusthat's one19:02
clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:03
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-04-10-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting19:03
clarkbThere were no officially recorded #actions but mordred and pabelanger were palnning to update some specs19:03
clarkbI know mordred didn't get to it I think combination of pip and meetings and dib updates meant that many of us were distracted by the fire of the day19:04
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clarkbbut we can talk about that more during priority efforts19:04
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ianwi was going to write a third-party spec, but yeah, have been pip-ing and dib-ing19:04
clarkb#topic Specs approval19:04
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clarkbSimilarly I havne't even looked at the specs repo for other specs recently19:05
corvusomg, pip and dib are typographic vertical mirror images19:05
fungieveryone's been pipping the dibs and dibbing the pips so far this week19:05
clarkbanyone have a spec they want to call out for review before we move on?19:05
clarkb#topic Priority Efforts19:06
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clarkbGood news is I hear fungi fixed storyboard bug updates via gerrit its plugin magic19:07
clarkb#topic Storybaord19:07
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clarkbI'm leaving the typio19:07
fungiyeah, seems like the implicit configuration piggybacking on commentlinks stopped working for some reason19:07
fungidocs say it was deprecated but it just flat out stopped being considered i think19:08
fungionce i was able to translate the docs into human, i figured out the explicit config for it19:08
fungianyway, as of the production gerrit restart on saturday it's working agani19:08
clarkbfungi: was that the only known issue between gerrit and storyboard? the other behavior is working as expected?19:09
corvusoh, so it's not tied to commentlinks now, it's an explicit option?19:09
corvuscool.  that sounds like an improvement :)19:09
fungiand now that i see how to interpret the plugin documentation, there are some other behaviors we could turn on if we want19:09
fungi#link https://gerrit.googlesource.com/plugins/its-storyboard/ its-storyboard configuration docs19:10
fungi#link https://gerrit.googlesource.com/plugins/its-storyboard/+/stable-2.13/src/main/resources/Documentation/quick-install-guide.md#its_connection_its_connectionconnection-configuration its-storyboard configuration docs19:12
fungianyway, that's all there is to say about that, i think19:13
clarkbany other storyboard updates? looks like migrations are proceeding and that was a blocker for some projects iirc so yay19:13
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fungiright, openstackclient and openstacksdk migrated last week19:13
fungias did the tripleo validations subteam19:13
fungitripleo is struggling to figure out how their task tracking workflows (which previously involved considering tripleo one giant fluid project on lp_ maps to per-repository task tracking in storyboard19:14
fungii was going to start tinkering with search engine indexability next, but mordred pointed out that the angularjs upgrade he's working on comes with a feature to do that automagically19:15
clarkbfungi: interesting the js gives bots what they need to index properly?19:15
fungiserver-side javascript client that prerenders page content19:15
fungisomething called "universal pages"19:16
fungi#link https://universal.angular.io// Server-side rendered javascript19:17
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fricklerwe may need to look at performance some time, https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/list?status=active&tags=blocking-storyboard-migration just took like 40 seconds to load for me19:17
fungiyeah, a few people have noted that storytag-based queries are starting to take forever19:17
fungii have a feeling there's an inefficient db operation there somewhere19:18
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clarkbok anything else before we move on?19:19
fungiprofilnig that is probably a little beyond my skillset though19:19
fungier, profiling19:19
funginope, nothing from me at least19:19
clarkb#topic Modernizing Config Management19:19
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* cmurphy lurks19:20
clarkbI'm sort of operating under the assumption that this will be the next priority effort. Whether that is puppet4/5 or ansible or mordred's to be written use containers spec19:20
clarkbgiven the rate of fires showing up over the last week I don't think we've really had any time to write down the thoughts on this in order to compare them directly19:20
clarkbI'd like to shoot for next week but depending on how pip 10 related stuff goes I can see that being difficult too :/19:20
fungimaybe we can switch to pip-based configuration19:20
clarkbbut if you are involved with one of the proposals updating the existing specs would be helpful so that we can compare them directly with up to date info across the board19:21
cmurphyi've started finishing up the last bits of http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/puppet_4_prelim_testing.html19:21
clarkbI don't really want to have a dig in conversation on this stuff until we have that information available (and hopefully everyone can read through it at least once before we do the major considering)19:22
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clarkbcmurphy: cool, do we need a next step spec for an actual migration plan that we can compare to the others?19:22
clarkb"this is what a puppet4 migration looks like in infra" type of doc19:22
cmurphyclarkb: yeah i started working on that a while ago https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449933/19:23
patchbotpatch 449933 - openstack-infra/infra-specs - Rename and expand Puppet 4 Preliminary Testing19:23
cmurphyand then decided to aim lower first19:23
cmurphyand then got very very distracted19:23
clarkbcmurphy: cool, probably want to make sure that is up to date if anything has changed. Let me know if you need someone else to do that19:23
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cmurphyclarkb: sure, will prioritize it this week19:24
clarkbpabelanger: mordred: like I said not surprised that fires and other obligations kept people away from updating specs. Let me know if you need help or otherwise ENOTIME19:24
clarkbI'd like to keep moving so that we have time to talk about some of those fires and just do a quick sanity check on where we are at on them19:25
clarkb#topic General Topics19:25
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clarkbwe'll start with frickler's question about advertising irc highlights for infra folks19:26
clarkbone suggestion is to put it in the topic which isn't a bad idea since its close to where peolpe would be expected to use the highlights19:26
fricklerI just wanted some feedback on whether folks want that or rather want to stay more hidden19:26
clarkbI just worry the topic is quite full already19:26
corvus19:27 -!- Topic for #openstack-infra: Discussion of OpenStack Developer and Community Infrastructure | docs http://docs.openstack.org/infra/ | bugs https://storyboard.openstack.org/ | source19:27
corvus          https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/ | channel logs http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/19:27
fricklerhow to place it into the topic would be a seperate question19:27
corvusfor reference ^19:27
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frickleror maybe where else to document it19:27
ianwdo we really miss that many questions coming along in #openstack-infra?  infra-root, etc certainly calls attention for people who know it, but not sure people are not getting help without it19:28
fricklermaybe a mention in the top yellow box on https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/ would be enough, too19:28
corvusianw: agreed19:28
corvusfrickler: or https://docs.openstack.org/infra/ ?19:29
corvusor both :)19:29
fungii don't always read scrollback, but when i do i try to follow up with people</dos equis commercial>19:29
fricklerianw: not miss them, but certainly my responses may be delayed by an hour or more19:29
corvusthat's the first link in the topic19:29
clarkbya updating the docs seems like a good first step19:30
corvuswe could put basically the same yellow box in both docs19:30
clarkbthe docs are linked in the topic so if follwoing from topic to docs you hopefully find it19:30
fricklero.k., I can propose a patch for that19:30
fricklerand with that I'd be o.k. to continue, when I added the topic, there wasn't much else listed19:31
clarkbsounds like a plan then, thanks19:31
fricklerbut now we have other topics to handle I guess19:31
fungipeople wait until the last minute to add topics19:31
* fungi is part of the problem19:31
clarkbalso fires19:32
clarkbThe next item on the list was reorganizing the openstack-ci storyboard group to drop zuul specific projects and move them into a zuul specific group (from fungi)19:32
fungithis should be real fast19:32
fungii asked in #zuul and there seemed to be some interest in putting the zuul family of repositories in a zuul project group for ease of overview19:32
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corvusi'm +1 on creating/adding them to zuul group.  i'm +/-0 on removing them from openstack-ci19:33
fungijust trying to figure out whether i should drop any or possibly all of them from the openstack-ci project group (we may also want to rename that at some point?)19:33
corvusmaybe +019:33
fungifor example, zone_zuul-ci.org maybe ought to appear in both project groups19:33
clarkbI think I'm leaning towards the change if only to make it a little more clear there is a distinction now19:33
clarkband there are different groups responsible for each (even if membership overlaps)19:33
fungii honestly don't know how many people rely on sb project grouping anyway19:34
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clarkbfungi: maybe not in sb directly but the projects.yaml file I think gets viewed in weird ways in places19:34
clarkbbut I also don't think it is a major issue19:34
fungikeeping zuul-jobs in both project groups may also make sense, but e.g. zuul-base-jobs (which openstack's deployment doesn't use) probably is fine being only in the zuul project group19:34
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clarkbdoesn't seem to be any strong opinions either way19:37
fungiokay, i'll take a stab at this under the impression that we can mostly move zuul repos to a new zuul project group but that there are a handful of repos we might want to stick in both for convenience19:37
fungiand with that i have nothing else on this topic19:37
clarkbPip 10 released over the weekend19:37
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clarkbas expected this created problems for a non zero number of jobs. In some cases pip has been pinned to version 9 to get around this in others we've worked to accomodate the new version behaviors19:38
clarkbBring this up because i think we need to be careful where we pin pip19:38
fungiin some cases pip has also inadvertently been pinned as a side effect of image generation problems and pauses19:38
clarkbits ok if openstack specifically wants to pin pip but places that we produce code or artifacts that are consumed outside of openstack likely shouldn't rely on that19:39
fungibut yes, capping pip should in general be viewed as a sad compromise we need to unwind as early as we can19:39
clarkbzuul-jobs and dib in particular are places were I think we need to be careful to roll forward and continue to function rather than pinning pip19:39
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ianwfrom devstack pov, i think the main job is pip10 safe, but i need to look into some sadness in the "platform" (!xenial) jobs -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561597/19:39
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clarkbI've not gone looking too hard yet but on the infra side of things we should probably dig through puppet logs and see if we have any failures related to this as well19:41
corvusianw: do we not need a venv fix for devstack?19:41
fungicurious how we're dealing with, e.g., the python-psutil ubuntu package not being uninstallable by pip19:41
fungiin devstack context i mean19:41
clarkbright now aiui we are relying on pip pins19:42
ianwcorvus: i don't think we *need* it ... that's not to say it is not a good idea19:42
ianwfungi: so in that package's case, we don't actually need that package installed19:42
fricklerfyi I tried to list all the qa + infra issues here19:42
frickler#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pip10-mitigation19:42
fungiianw: great news ;)19:42
corvusi thought clarkb showed us that pip10 requires a venv.  but ianw jut linked to a change which lifts the pin and the only failing jobs are "platform" jobs19:43
corvusso i'm missing something :)19:43
clarkbcorvus: ianw in the general case we can't control what distros package with (distutils or not) or what python system packages other packages we need will depend on19:43
fungicorvus: _if_ we can avoid preinstalling any python libraries via distro packages that have been built with distutils (some are built with setuptools instead) then pip 10 is able to "upgrade" from those fine19:43
fricklercorvus: note that this currently checked only the plain devstack job. things may still be failing for specific projects like glance19:43
clarkbso there may be specific scenarios where we can set things up such that they work19:44
clarkbbut others they don't19:44
ianwclarkb: ++ yes, it's whack-a-mole fix each issue19:44
clarkbone particular concern of mine is that our images use glean and not cloud init so avoid a large amount of system python that many other users will have19:44
corvusi'm still missing what changed between clarkb's pip10 failure and ianw's pip10 success19:44
clarkbso we can test on our images and say "it works. not a bug" but no one else will be able to run it sort of situation19:44
fungicorvus: so it's mainly an intersection of specific distro packages built on distutils and specific python packages we want to pip upgrade (primarily due to constraints version specifications)19:44
clarkbcorvus: I'm guessing they removed python-psutil from the installation list since ianw says it isn't required19:45
fungicorvus: ianw is saying the workaround for the python-psutil failure was to stop preinstalling the distro-packaged python-psutil (if i understood correctly)19:45
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ianwfungi / corvus: yes -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561426/19:45
corvusfrickler: ah, and that's a dep of 56159719:45
corvusgot it19:46
corvusso that fixes the current problem, clarkb's venv solution still may be better long-term because of the points he just raised19:46
clarkbcorvus: right19:46
clarkbhowever switching to venvs is likely also to be whack-a-mole of fixing random assumptions made in plugins and so on19:46
corvuscool... can we pretend i'm not devstack-core for a second and tell me what a 'devstack-platform' job is?19:46
fungiright, however we can manage to stop mixing distro package managers and pip is going to be more future-proof, i imagine19:46
clarkbI've already had to address some of that in ironic with grenade19:46
ianwcorvus: "platform" is just what i've called !xenial-based jobs19:47
corvusianw: so they may have other random python packages installed (a la what clarkb was saying earlier)19:47
ianwcorvus: that was the sentiment rougly expressed in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129384.html too19:47
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clarkbcorvus: yup and because the packagers are different they may use distutils on cetnos where ubuntu uses setuptools19:48
clarkband vice versa19:48
corvusokay, i think i grok19:48
ianwcorvus: yes, and so as a first approach small hacks, such as possibly manually removing a .egg-info file so pip continues to do what it was doing before, might work best19:48
clarkbI actually looked at the debian psutil package to see what sort of effort would be required to start untangling this at a distro level and I think it would not be easy19:49
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clarkbit is very package specific19:49
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ianwclarkb: yeah, in some cases i've had packagers add the flag that writes the manifest file out and it's all good ... let me find that bug19:50
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clarkbI do think we are making reasonable progress. Its just a lot of situation specific cases of determining what the best way forward is19:50
fungisome distros have switched most of their packages to use something akin to 'pip install .'19:50
clarkband trying to avoid getting cornered into needing pip9 long term19:50
fungias opposed to the problematic 'setup.py install'19:51
ianwclarkb: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1255206 for reference19:51
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1255206 in python-cffi "Consider adding installed-files.txt during build" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] - Assigned to ppicka19:51
clarkbBriefly before we run out of time I also wanted to follow up on the xenial initramfs situation since it is related19:52
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clarkbOur xenial images are continuing to use global pip 9 on boot because we aren't able to build working xenial images that have pip 10 due to initramfs changes that prevent xenial from booting on rax and I guess other clouds19:52
clarkbSo be prepared for potential new set of failures as soon as that gets fixed and we upload new xenial iamges19:53
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clarkbianw: pabelanger: sounds like you have it largely under control as far as debugging goes?19:53
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ianwclarkb: that might be a little strong :)19:54
fungithough worth noting, we got tox-based jobs in general working with pip 10 according to my ad hoc tests upgrading pip before invoking the rest of the job19:54
clarkbianw: well at least we've identified the probable source of the problem now ot identify why it broke it :)19:54
fungiclarkb fixed the one known issue there (where tox-siblings relied on pip internals)19:54
clarkbianw: lsinitramfs was where I ended up before needing to do meeting things (and comparing the output across builds)19:54
ianwbut i think we are narrowing down ...19:54
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clarkb#topic Open Discussion19:55
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clarkbBefore we run out of time anything else?19:55
ianwclarkb: cool, yeah i thought i compared the initramfs's yesterday, but now i'm not sure if was comparing apples and oranges with the versions i grabbed.  confirmation on that will be good19:55
clarkbI'm visiting the dentist tomorrow at 1900UTC so will be out and about for that19:55
fungii'm out all thursday19:56
fricklerjust mentioning that patchbot is an effort by notmyname. noticed it in #swift earlier and said I liked it19:56
frickleradmittedly might need further discussion where to run it, thought19:56
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clarkbI think there was concern about its chattyness at one time? I tend to just smartfilter things out in weechat if I need to19:57
fungiyeah, it keeps finding its way back onto the meeting channels. project-specific channels who have some consensus in favor are of course free to have whatever bots they want join their channels19:58
corvusi think bots that run in official channels should be driven through the community maintained infrastructure19:58
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clarkbya its nice to not lose features if someone can't keep running a bot for example19:59
fungithat i agree with19:59
clarkband we are at time20:00
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clarkbthank you everyone20:00
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notmynamefungi: clarkb: frickler: FWIW, patchbot was rewritten and is more stable and easier to manage now. doesn't lurk in meeting channels (mostly, but even if I forget to /part it, it's not as chatty)20:26
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oneswig#startmeeting scientific-sig21:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 17 21:00:26 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
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oneswig#link agenda for today - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_April_17th_201821:00
oneswiggreetings trandles21:00
oneswigsee my mail?21:01
trandlesjust now, thx21:01
trandlesI'll give it a read and provide feedback ASAP (after this meeting of course ;) )21:01
oneswigexcellent!  Michael did a great job last week21:01
oneswigI saw you've got some contributions from the Sanger Centre in the UK - are they active users?21:02
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trandlesYeah, I think Sanger is (Matthew Vernon perhaps?)21:03
oneswigI liked your paper from FOSDEM, very useful and informative.21:03
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oneswigHow was the conference?21:03
trandlesOh, that's the paper from SC17 btw, I didn't realize FOSDEM republished it21:03
martialsorry I am late21:03
oneswigHey martial, no problem!21:03
oneswig#chair martial21:03
openstackCurrent chairs: martial oneswig21:03
trandlesWish I could have attended FOSDEM but alas...21:03
oneswigIt's just us and trandles currently21:04
oneswigtrandles: was Charliecloud presented by Reid at FOSDEM, or nobody?21:04
martialthat's cool21:04
trandlesnobody that I know of21:04
trandlesI just sent Reid the FOSDEM link21:04
martialTim, do you know if Bob and Mike are going to SC18 or OpenStack summit Berlin?21:05
trandlesI do not know21:05
trandlesI think that's up in the air at the moment21:05
martialI will reach out to them, and offer to redo the OpenStack BoF21:05
martialfor SC1821:06
oneswigI'd be going to Berlin OpenStack instead of SC1821:06
trandlesoneswig: It looks like someone named Georg Rath gave a scientific containers overview and provided several papers21:06
martialit is very unfortunate that both are exactly at the same time21:06
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trandlesI'm much rather go to Berlin but I have other program requirements for attending SC18 :(21:06
oneswigtrandles: handy link, thanks - I'll compare notes!21:07
trandlesmartial: is it ok if I send you something small via USPS for you to take to Vancouver on my behalf?21:07
martialyes of course21:07
martialI will send you my address21:08
trandlescool, thx21:08
oneswigtrandles: got some interest over here in the boot-to-ramdisk idea.21:09
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trandlesthe more the merrier21:09
oneswigOne of the team is looking at ways of updating the RAID controller firmware - it's boot-to-ramdisk or boot-from-volume21:09
trandlesI have to admit to having a tab opened to the storybook entry and another to the ironic spec wiki page and I haven't had a chance to actually work on it yet21:09
oneswigNo problem.  I'm on a train tomorrow & thursday - I could get a first draft up if you're snowed under.21:10
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trandlesis there an easy way to collaborate on the spec?  Maybe once it's been submitted?21:11
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oneswigAbsolutely - you commit, I commit, it's tennis...21:12
martialSince we have little people, this will have less impact (will post it on the forum/ML too), but Bob asked me to share: Workshop on Container-based systems for Big data, Distributed and Parallel computing (CBDP’2018) https://sites.google.com/view/cbdp18/home Co-located with Euro-Par 2018 http://europar2018.org August 27-28 2018, Torino, Italy21:12
oneswigtrandles: the main thing is to keep amending the same commit (and making sure we don't tread on each others toes)21:12
oneswigmartial: looks interesting21:12
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oneswigTurin is a lovely setting :-)21:13
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trandlesAnother trip I wish I could take.  Lucy and I are heading to Singapore and Thailand for two weeks, departing September 3, so Turin the week before is out.21:14
martialunless you leave from Italy :)21:14
oneswigSome people have all the fun.21:14
trandlesSo, oneswig, what do you have in the way of HPCAC round-up other than the container write-up?21:15
oneswigI think I'll be camping that weekend :-)21:15
oneswigAnother good year for the conference21:15
oneswigPlenty of focus this year on containerisation (hence the writeup)21:16
oneswig#link http://www.stackhpc.com/the-state-of-hpc-containers.html21:16
oneswigBut a couple of interesting talks on storage and AI as well.21:16
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martialpretty cool too21:17
oneswigThere's a huge focus on applying HPC techniques to AI, a study published by Baidu in particular seems to attract a lot of one-upmanship21:17
oneswigA new form factor for NVMe was described - the "ruler" - up to 32 TB on something that looks like (you guessed it) a ruler21:18
oneswigit takes up 4x PCIe lanes.  An AMD EPYC has 128 PCIe lanes => up to 1PB of NVMe in 1U (but no PCIe left for high-speed networking...)21:18
priteauA new blog post from oneswig, nice!21:19
priteauHi everyone21:19
oneswigThere was another interesting talk on high-density compute for exascale - liquid cooled21:19
trandlesIs RDMA to NVMe available in virtual machines?  Do any hypervisors support it?21:20
oneswigHi priteau, welcome!  Yep that's what I've been working on the last couple of days :-)21:20
martialHey Pierre, welcome :)21:20
priteauI will read it tomorrow while drinking my morning coffee ;-)21:21
oneswigtrandles: depends on what level the nvme is exposed.  I'd do it through an SR-IOV RDMA NIC in the instance.  The alternative would be NVME-over-fabrics into the hypervisor then p155ed up the wall by QEMU21:21
priteauSorry I can't stay longer for this meeting, but will read the logs21:21
oneswigThe issue with the former approach would be exposing a storage network to tenants (potentially)21:21
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trandlesyeah...but it makes me think you could provide burst buffer-like capabilities to VM-based applications21:22
oneswigThere's a huge, huge potential being opened up around that.21:22
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oneswigtrandles: what's the news on OpenHPC & Charliecloud?  I looked and saw the PR but there's nothing in the package repos yet21:24
trandlesit's another barrier being knocked down to HPC scale cloud-based scientific workloads21:24
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trandlesSo there was a review today for Charliecloud inclusion in OpenHPC21:24
trandlesI had been told, erroneously, that it was already approved.21:24
trandlesThe review surfaced some questions.  Reid and Michael participated on the call and I haven't had a chance to debrief them21:25
oneswigAh - so not just yet?21:25
trandlesThe 20 second summary is that they think it's a go, but the issue hasn't been updated one way or the other in git21:26
oneswigThe user namespace stuff seems to be a concern, in that exposes new kernel code paths for probing from unprivileged users.  What's the view on that - are the low-hanging issues all found and fixed to LANL's satisfaction?21:27
trandlesWe believe so.21:27
trandleswe do mitigate some things21:27
trandlesa lot of the recent CVE's around user namespace haven't been with user namespace itself, but user namespace made it easier to attack another vulnerability21:28
trandlesso we disable namespaces not required for Charliecloud (i.e. everything but user and mount)21:28
oneswigMakes good sense but perhaps not for the general use case (or OpenHPC)?21:29
trandlesthe biggest one being network...but network is useless for our unprivileged use case because you still need real root privs to add the required network interface to the namespace to make it usable21:29
trandlesyou can't disable namespaces on the Cray kernel btw...21:30
oneswigRight - I saw that - unprivileged containers work for this use case but not for most others21:30
oneswigCray let you rebuild the CLE kernel??21:30
trandlesno, don't have to21:30
trandlesthey're shipping 4.421:31
oneswigAh OK - so this isn't about unsetting CONFIG_*_NS then?21:31
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trandleswe'd have to recompile and do that, unset the NS stuff, or get rid of the unshare system call, patch clone, etc...21:32
trandlesnamespaces are pretty deeply embedded in the 4.+ kernel21:32
oneswigWell you wouldn't want a half measure21:33
trandlesthe RHEL-based and upstream (in 4.something...) kernels include a /proc/ interface for specifying the allowed number of each namespace21:33
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oneswigWas there something about nested depth as well?21:34
trandlesnot sure about that one21:35
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trandleslook in /proc/sys/user/ btw...21:35
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oneswigtrandles: I'm on a mac21:35
trandleswhen you get the chance ;)21:35
jmlowewhew, finally caught one here after the change to daylight savings21:36
oneswigDoes OpenHPC already package either Shifter or Singularity?21:36
oneswigHi jmlowe21:36
trandlesSingularity is in OpenHPC AFAIK21:36
trandlesHi Mike21:36
martialhey Mike, welcome ;)21:37
oneswigThere was a question earlier - are you planning on attending either SC2018 or OpenStack Berlin?21:37
martial(yep that was me)21:37
jmlowebreaks my heart but I don't see how I can justify Berlin over SC1821:38
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martialwant to have a redo of the OpenStack BoF?21:39
martial(at SC18?)21:39
trandlesOne last comment on user namespaces.  We took our unprivileged approach because we didn't want to wade into the privilege escalation/de-escalation morass.  We rely on the kernel for security, which we already do implicitly.21:39
martialjmlowe: do you know if Bob is going to SC18 too?21:39
oneswigtrandles: I'm with you on that.21:39
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martialtrandles: Met with Ms Lovett last week at the Docker Federal summit21:41
trandlesoh good21:41
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trandlesyeah, that's another thing that's maybe not widely known yet, but some of us (LANL, NERSC, CSCS) have been talking with Docker since SC17.  We want them to take Charliecloud and Shifter and consider them reference implementations of acceptable HPC container runtimes.21:42
martialshe spoke about that, and your help. They have made a lot of progress I am told. I have to follow up with her, I would love her to do a couple presentations with us21:43
oneswigSeems wise to work from a common ecosystem, specialised where necessary21:43
martialnot ready to announce at DockerCon in June (I will be there)21:44
trandlesWe'd much rather go to a vendor-supported solution in the long term.21:44
martialI think she would be happy/interested to talk about their progress too21:45
trandlesI'm hoping to meet with her in May when I'm out in the Bay Area for other meetings.21:45
martialshe is in DC21:45
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trandlesHrm, Christian said he thought she'd be out west when I am.  I need to email them. ;)21:46
martialam sure if you are in the area she can be around21:47
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martialStig, should I ask her if she want to present to our group?21:49
martialafter all if the tech is builtin :)21:49
oneswigSeems like a good idea to me - but perhaps when they have something concrete to discuss?21:49
martialthat's cool :)21:50
oneswigA common runtime that meets these requirements (and scales to the simultaneous launch of 10,000 instances) would be excellent.21:51
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oneswigtrandles: on that note, have you looked at CRI-O or similar?21:51
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trandlesMichael has been looking at CRI-O, but I can't speak to where he's at in that effort.21:52
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oneswigHe mentioned something left-field - bproc was it?21:52
trandlesthat I don't konw21:52
oneswigI may have misheard him21:53
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oneswigTime is creeping up on us, was there more to cover?  (checks the agenda...)21:54
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oneswigI'm not sure there is.  I think the action is on martial to submit a BoF for SC2018, correct?21:55
oneswigAnd trandles and I will work on a spec for boot-to-ramdisk21:56
trandlesI promise21:56
oneswigAs do I :-)21:56
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martialyes Sir21:57
oneswigexcellent :-)21:57
trandlesmartial: if you send me your mailing address I'd appreciate it :)21:57
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martialTim, yes am going to do that now :)21:58
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oneswigAnyone else see this? https://insidehpc.com/2018/04/accelerating-ceph-rdma-nvme/21:59
oneswigBizarrely, iWARP based22:00
oneswigOK, time is upon us22:00
trandlesI had not, thanks for the pointer22:00
oneswiggoing going...22:00
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martialohhh really interesting22:00
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martialcool, thanks everybody :)22:00
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oneswigThank you, until next time...22:01
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