Tuesday, 2018-06-05

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samP#startmeeting masakari03:00
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openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  5 03:00:27 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.03:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.03:00
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samPHi all for masakari03:00
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samPHi all,03:00
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samPFrom today meeting will start at 0300UTC03:01
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samPLet's start03:01
samP#topic High priority items03:01
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samPJust push a patch to release python-masakariclient03:02
samP#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572244/03:02
samPIt has some validation error, I will fix it.03:02
samPThis will release 5.1.003:02
samPAny other high priority items?03:03
samPif not lets move to bug and patches03:04
samP#topic Bug/Patches03:04
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samPAny critical bugs or patches to discuss?03:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1773132 in masakari "masakari-engine runs recovery twice for one notification when disconnection with rabbitmq" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:05
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tpatilLooking at the code, I have marked this bug as confirmed03:06
tpatilI will fix this issue03:06
samPThis problem could happen.03:07
tpatilbasically we will need to get the notification from db and compare the previous status with the current one and take decision to skip processing03:07
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samPtpatil: thanks. Do we have any exceptions for rabbit mq delivery failures?03:09
tpatilon masakari-aPI side, yes03:10
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tpatilbut after publishing, masakari-api return success status to the caller03:10
tpatiland if masakari-engine doesn't get the message for long time, then this situation could occur03:11
samPtpatil: correct03:11
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tpatilthis situation is rare though03:11
samPfor Host failure, this would not be a critical issue.03:12
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samPah..can't say for sure. I take my statement back03:13
samPtpatil: thanks for fixing this. Let's discuss once we have patches03:16
tpatilsamP: Sure03:16
samPAny other bugs?03:16
samPor ptches03:16
samPif not let's move to discussion03:17
samP#topic discussion03:17
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1773765 in masakari "There is a possibility that 'running' notification will remain" [Undecided,New]03:17
tpatilThe issue is almost same as the previous one03:17
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tpatilsince host evacuation is lengthy process, it could fail in between and the status would remain as running instead of "failed".03:18
samPalmost same, but not duplicate.03:18
tpatilBut in production environment,this situation could only occur in case of power failure03:19
samPor the network failure03:19
samPis it possible to check evacuation status from nova side/03:20
tpatilsince we cannot predict how much time its going to take to finish processing host failure notifications, it's difficult to rerun based on running status in the periodic tasks03:20
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samPtpatil: agree03:21
samPNeed to check about evacuation, but live migration have cancel feature.03:21
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samPSecond thought, even we have cancel feature, better to wait till it finish or become error03:23
tpatilIn that case, masakari will need to store the request id and query based on it. But does nova support this feature? need to check03:25
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tpatilneed to check instance actions and figure out the status based on the request if03:26
samPwell we could listen to nova notifications03:26
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tpatilyes, that's another option too03:26
tpatilbut in case of power/network failure, this won't happen, correct03:26
samPtpatil: correct03:26
tpatilI mean we wouldn't get notifications from nova03:27
samPIn such failure, we cant say for sure that we can get those notifications03:27
samPBest option is to leave this to operator to handle03:28
tpatilone thing is for sure, we will need to query nova to find out whether evacuation succeeded or failed and then maybe we can take some decision to process notifications with running status in periodic tasks03:29
samPtpatil: agree03:29
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samPI will update bug report with my findings03:31
tpatilwe can certainly add some code in the periodic task to notify operators that some notifications which are in running status are taking longer time to process than expected (configurable using new config option)03:32
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samP+ warning log is useful too03:33
tpatilit will log warning messages and then operator will need to figure out the issue by themselves03:33
samPtpatil: got it03:34
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samPI think that would be fine for immediate fix03:35
tpatilOk, We will fix this issue03:35
samPIt is better if we can load this config without restarting masakari-api03:36
samPtpatil: thanks03:37
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tpatilconfig option will be needed in masakari-engine03:38
samPtpatil: sorry, you are correct.03:38
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samPAny other bugs or patches?03:40
samPPlease bring them up any time.03:40
samP(1) Horizon Plugin03:40
samPNeed to review...03:40
tpatilNiraj will upload a new PS today03:41
tpatilthen we should start reviewing Add segment panel patch03:41
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samPI have the check to release deadline for horizon plug-in for Rocky03:41
samPtpatil: sure, thans03:41
samPAny way we better merge main patches before Rocky-303:42
samPI will let you know the exact dates for this.03:42
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samP(2) Ansible support for Masakari03:43
tpatilRocky 3 milesone release date is Jul 23 - Jul 2703:43
samPtpatil: yep.03:43
tpatilNiraj is working on fixing functional tests03:44
tpatilthen he will added documentation to install masakari-api and masakari-engine03:44
samPtpatil: Thanks03:44
tpatilnext action is to write masakari-monitor role03:44
tpatil fixing functional tests and adding documentation will be done in this week03:45
samPtpatil: yep, which might cause some troubles.03:45
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tpatiland then we will focus on masakari-monitor role03:45
samPtpatil: got it. thanks for fixing tests and add docs03:45
samPtpatil: got it03:46
samP#topic AOB03:47
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samPI'm working on rpm packaging03:47
samPHere is the test packaging which is failing currently..03:48
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samP#link https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/sampntt/masakari/03:48
samPI will fix this soon, and propose this to RDO.03:48
samPThen we can use dnf or yum to install masakari packages...03:48
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samPThat's all form my side03:49
samPany updates?03:49
tpatilrecovery workflow customization03:49
tpatilneed to review specs03:49
samPtpatil: ah, sorry I miss that03:50
samPtpatil: I will review that03:50
tpatilThank you03:50
samPNeed to renew the agenda on wiki...03:51
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tpatilI will add my agenda items before the next meeting03:51
samPAnd need to update masakari wiki too..03:51
samPtpatil: thanks that would be helpful03:52
tpatilAny updates about project mascot?03:52
samPtpatil: not yet.03:52
samPI will ping them03:52
tpatilOk, thanks03:52
samPAny updates?03:55
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samPor we could finish today's meeting03:55
tpatilNothing from my end for now03:55
samPtpatil: thanks03:55
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samPPlease use openstack-dev ML with [masakari] or IRC #openstack-masakari @freenode for further discussion03:56
samPThank you all...03:56
Dinesh__BhorThank you all03:56
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samPthanks all...03:56
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gongysh#startmeeting tacker08:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  5 08:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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gongysh#topic roll call08:00
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gongyshwho are here for tacker meeting?08:00
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gongyshYanXingAn, hi08:00
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gongyshphuoc, helo08:02
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gongyshdangtrinhnt, joxyuki hi08:03
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gongyshdkushwaha_, helo08:03
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gongyshLi_Jiale, hi08:04
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gongysh#topic bp08:06
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gongyshphuoc,  how is the action "heat-translator' newer release?08:06
phuocgongysh, I have some problem, that need update new version of heat08:07
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phuocbecause that problem causes delay other patches08:08
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phuocI disable unit tests about alarm monitoring: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57228808:08
phuocI hope next week, everything can work fine08:08
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gongyshphuoc, I think we can update heat-translator to do version choose, instead of just update it into newer heat template version.08:11
YanXing_anhi, phuoc, it's great if this problem is fixed at next week, before 6.1808:11
phuocgongysh, YanXing_an, I hope so08:12
phuocbecause the version of heat is 2013, it is very old08:12
gongyshphuoc, I think let the heat-translator to allow version choose is more acceptable to reviewers.08:13
gongyshphuoc, we can merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572288 first to let tacker ci pass.08:14
phuocgongysh, yes08:14
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gongyshYanXing_an, have you registered bp for a service account to access tenant's vim credentials?08:15
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YanXing_angongysh, not yet08:15
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gongyshYanXing_an,  ok, will you do it before 6.18 hackthon?08:16
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YanXing_angongysh, yes, will prepare the code08:16
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gongyshby the way. if you guys can join the hackerthon in beijing in person or remotely, welcome08:18
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YanXing_angongysh, If i have no time, Li Jiale will help me08:18
gongyshYanXing_an, nice.08:18
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gongyshwe can just fill in the name and remark join remotely.08:19
dkushwaha_gongysh, what is this hackathon ?08:19
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gongyshbug smash.08:19
gongyshthe guys get together and write code or documents for openstack projects.08:19
YanXing_anopen infra, including OpenStack, Ceph, K8S, Kata08:20
dkushwaha_gongysh, it seems most of the contents in Chinese only08:20
gongyshdkushwaha_, you can join remotely.08:20
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dkushwaha_gongysh, yea, but how to join, unfortunately I am not able to read it08:21
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YanXing_andkushwaha_, just reviewing or fix bugs online with your PC :)08:23
dkushwaha_gongysh, Ok, I will translate, and will check if i can join :)08:23
gongyshI can collect gifts from organizers for you and give them to you when we meet next summit.08:23
gongyshjust fit in your name after mine or yanxing an's08:24
dkushwaha_gongysh, Sure :)08:24
gongyshand coding on those days. June 19 and June 20.08:25
gongyshcoding for tacker.08:25
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gongyshwe will collect patch numbers of the participants.08:26
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gongyshok. this is for china openinfra bug smash days.08:26
gongysh#topic open discussion08:26
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gongyshdo you have any thing to talk?08:26
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phuocI think we can talk about Placement policies08:28
gongyshphuoc, sure08:28
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1774356 in tacker "tox docs fails with ../contributor/api/modules.rst:document isn't included in any toctree" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Trinh Nguyen (dangtrinhnt)08:30
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phuocDinesh is not here08:30
gongyshdangtrinhnt, hi08:30
dangtrinhntgongysh, hi08:31
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gongyshwill you fix it?08:31
joxyukiphuoc, do you have any questions or comment on the patch?08:31
dangtrinhntgongysh, I fixed it in this patch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/177435608:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1774356 in tacker "tox docs fails with ../contributor/api/modules.rst:document isn't included in any toctree" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Trinh Nguyen (dangtrinhnt)08:31
dangtrinhntthat I meant :)08:32
phuocjoxyuki, that patch looks good to me08:32
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gongyshdangtrinhnt,  we had better one patch one bug.08:33
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gongyshdo not fix two different bugs in one patch.08:33
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dangtrinhntlet me create another patch08:33
phuocI have a question about monitoring VNF, when placement policies is applied08:33
gongyshdangtrinhnt,  thanks08:33
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phuocbecause currently in Tacker, when a VDU is marked down, stack will be deleted and respawn08:35
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phuocit can be problem, when we only need to respawn a VDU08:35
joxyukiphouc, yes. So we, I and Dinesh, are planning to support VDU respawn in next release.08:37
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phuocjoxyuki, thanks08:37
dkushwaha_joxyuki, +108:38
phuocI hope Heat can support that use cases too08:38
YanXing_anyou mean, respawn one VDU's all VMs?08:38
phuocand we don't need more effort xD08:38
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joxyukiYanXing_an, what do you mean? can a VDU have multiple VMs?08:39
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phuocYanXing_an, because in current implementation in Tacker, we respawn all VDUs in a stack08:39
YanXing_anjoxyuki, yes08:39
gongyshanything else?08:40
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dangtrinhntgongysh, this is the fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572305/08:40
joxyukiok, we have to study that case.08:40
phuocjoxyuki, thank you ^^08:40
YanXing_anif one VDU has more than one VM, we need import one policy to decide respawn which one, or just respawn the failed VM08:41
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joxyukiunderstood. the latter is enogh I think.08:42
joxyukienogh -> enough08:43
gongyshany more?08:43
YanXing_annone from my side08:44
gongysh ok08:44
gongyshlets end this meeting08:44
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mlavalle#startmeeting networking14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  5 14:00:34 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'14:00
rubasovhi everyone14:00
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mlavalleNice attendance today!14:02
mlavalle#topic Announcements14:02
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mlavalleAs usual, our agenda is here:14:03
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mlavalle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings14:03
mlavalleTHe big announcement today is that this week is the Rocky-2 milestone14:03
mlavalleIf amotoki is fine with it, we will be cutting it towards Wednesdat at end of day14:04
slaweqplease remember about tag in neutron_tempest_plugin repo also :)14:04
amotokimlavalle: yeah, it is on my radar and I will prepare it14:05
slaweqwe talked about that last week14:05
mlavallewill do slaweq, thanks for reminding us14:05
amotokislaweq: why do we need to tag the tempest plugin?14:05
amotokitempest is branch-less. tests in neutron-tempest-plugin should cover all branches including the master branch14:06
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slaweqyes, but having tags would be good to run it agains e.g. some stable branch of neutron, no?14:06
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amotokitempest tests check API consistency, so they should work for all supported branches14:07
amotokithis is the reason that tempest is branchless now14:07
amotokitagging might works to record snapshot but it is not for some stable branches14:08
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mlavalleI think amotoki has a good point. We can continue this point in the channel if needed14:09
amotokiso I didn't include neutron-tempest-plugin for rocky-1.14:09
amotokimlavalle: slaweq: yeah, we can clarify more context later14:10
mlavalleany other announcements?14:10
slaweqok, we will talk later14:10
mlavalleI take the silence as a no14:11
mlavalle#topic Blueprints14:11
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mlavalleThese are the blueprints we are tracking for Rocky-214:12
mlavalle#link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/rocky-214:12
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mlavalleFirst of all, I will be rolling the unfinieshed blueprints to Rocky-3 this week14:13
amotokiregarding policy-in-code, I resumed my work this week. I will post an update this week (after long delay)14:13
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mlavalleSo I will be pinging some of you during the week14:14
mlavalleamotoki: Thanks. Do you think we are on track to finish in Rochy?14:14
amotokimlavalle: I believe so14:14
mlavallethat's cool14:14
amotokiI must complete it :)14:15
mlavallebcafarel: did you have a chance to look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/subnet-onboard?14:15
mlavalleis this something you can help with?14:15
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bcafarelmlavalle: just a quick look for now (it's getting closer to the top of my tabs-todo-list), but yes that's one I can take :)14:16
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mlavallegreat, I just changed the assignee. Thanks!14:17
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bcafarelthanks for finding it for me :)14:18
mlavallerubasov showed to slaweq and me in Vancouver a PoC of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/strict-minimum-bandwidth-support14:18
mlavallethat he an lajoskatona_ put together14:18
mlavalleWe were very impressed14:19
mlavalleI think the next step is to push over the next few days patches for review14:19
rubasovit was lajoskatona_ totally, I'm just getting involved with the implementation14:19
mlavallecool, we will be looking forward for the patches14:20
lajoskatona_Actually it is still just hacking, to see if the whole can be done with nova and placement14:20
mlavalleI ask the team to review them when you have a chance14:20
amotokirubasov: anyway it shows we are working successfully as community :)14:20
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mlavalleand they are up in Gerrit, of course14:20
lajoskatona_A plus porlbme that I got a project task to work in Chine for June,so from my side I will have less time for it14:21
rubasovbut I'll be here until then and continue what Lajos started14:21
* gibi was pretty annoyed about this internal change14:21
lajoskatona_From our side now we plane to see with Gibi if we can boot a VM with bandwidth, and paralelly start to upload for review (as WIP?) the patches14:21
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gibiI have the nova patches up :)14:22
mlavalleGreat! Thanks for the progress and update gibi, rubasov and lajoskatona_ !14:22
gibibut we found couple of thing in the first integration trial I have to fix14:22
lajoskatona_Yeah, and th nova side is already under review :-)14:23
mlavalleboden: any comments on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-lib-decouple-db?14:23
bodenmlavalle hi14:23
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bodenthere are a number of patches in the queue and more waiting on those… would ask if folks get time to please help the reviews along when they can :)14:24
mlavalleThis is the Gerrit topic:14:24
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/neutronlib-decouple-db,n,z14:24
bodenmlavalle and FYI I think we will have to rehome a few more things into lib for this work, but need to get ^ patches in first14:25
bodenthat’s all from me on this topic14:25
mlavalleThanks for the update14:25
mlavalleRegarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/live-migration-portbinding14:25
mlavalleI have a series of patches that start here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414251/14:26
mlavalleI have addressed all the comments14:26
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mlavalleand also spent time over the past few days looking at Stadium projects that might be impacted by it14:27
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mlavalleOnly found that nerworking-odl might be impacted14:28
mlavalleBy the fact that we are changing the ports port_binding relationship to a list and changing its name to port_bindings14:28
mlavalleso I submitted a patch to take care of the impact: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572212/14:29
mlavallewhich I will fix /refine today14:29
mlavalleI will also send a message to the ML warning projects outside the Stadium about the change and possible impact14:30
amotokiactive networking-odl folks seems to be aware of the change :)14:30
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mlavalleboden: I will ping you later today to talk about your employer's projects14:31
mlavalleI think ther might be some impact14:31
bodenmlavalle ack14:31
mlavalleFinally, regarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/port-forwarding14:31
mlavalleslaweq: and I have been reviewing the patches:14:32
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535647/14:32
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53385014:33
mlavalleI think great progress is being made there14:33
mlavalleencourage the team to help with reviews14:33
slaweqyes, I will look at them soon :)14:33
mlavalleAlso I want to mention that the spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/extend-logging-to-fwassv2.014:34
mlavallemerged last week. Thanks to amotoki and the other reviewers14:34
mlavalleso now let's look at the code14:34
mlavalleAny other blueprints we should discuss?14:35
mlavalleok, let's move on then14:35
mlavalle#topic Bugs14:35
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mlavalleThis is the update boden sent to the ML about last week: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131082.html14:36
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mlavalleLet me highlight:14:37
mlavalle#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177425714:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1774257 in neutron "neutron-openvswitch-agent RuntimeError: Switch connection timeout" [Undecided,New]14:37
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mlavalleI will look at it but would appreciate help from other folks triaging it14:38
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slaweqlet me find something maybe related to this issue14:39
* mlavalle stands by14:39
slaweqmaybe it's related to this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ovsdbapp/+bug/176989714:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1769897 in ovsdbapp "DbListCommand taking too long when there's too many records" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Daniel Alvarez (dalvarezs)14:39
mlavalleoh, yeah, I'll make a note in the new bug and investigate the possible connection14:40
slaweqpatches for this one are already merged so maybe will be solved :)14:41
mlavalleamotoki: since you are in their timezone, could you draw attention from the VPNaaS team to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1773282?14:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1773282 in neutron "errors occured when create vpnservice with flavor_id:Flavors plugin not Found" [Undecided,New]14:41
mlavalleSee if they can help triaging it14:42
amotokimlavalle: sure. it is in my todo list14:42
mlavalleTnaks you14:42
mlavalleboden: anything else you might want to highlight?14:43
mlavalleI will look at the RFEs in the list14:43
bodenmlavalle negative14:43
mlavalleThis week's deputy is janzian, but I think he replaced a couple of weeks ago garyk, who had a personal emergency, right?14:44
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mlavallemanjeets_, bcafarel: would you be interested in being our bugs deputy this week?14:45
mlavalleall the team members take turns of one week doing this14:46
manjeets_i can do this week14:46
mlavallecool manjeets_. after the meeting I'll point you to the documentation14:46
mlavalleand you can always ping me in the channel if you need help14:46
janzianThanks manjeets_!14:46
amotokiregarding the summit week, I forgot to check most bugs. a bit follow-up.14:46
amotokiAfter looking thru bugs of the week of the summit week, most bugs looks minor.14:46
mlavallecool, thanks for the update14:47
amotokionly bug 1772874 looks worth mentioned.14:47
openstackbug 1772874 in neutron "attr_ops.verify_attributes() wrongly reject binding:host_id in _fixup_res_dict()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177287414:47
bcafarelI will check documentation too, for a later rotation14:47
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mlavallebcafarel: thanks. feel free to add your name to the rotation in the wiki when you are ready14:47
amotokiit seems related to rpc workers and I think we need to investigate it morbe as wsgi and rpc-worker effort.14:48
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mlavalle#topic Docs14:48
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mlavalleany updates on this topic boden ?14:48
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bodenno, but I was able to attend a doc meeting since before the summit… I will get back into gear with that14:49
bodenwasn’t able to attend14:49
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mlavalleok, cool14:50
mlavalle#topic neutron-lib14:50
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mlavallesince we got your attention, boden, any comments on neutron-lib14:50
bodensince we already talked about getting some eyes on the lib patches (during blueprints) I will just mention the release14:51
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bodenwe did release 1.15.0 last week14:51
bodenit didn’t contain a whole lot of code though14:51
bodenand its my understanding there’s a need for another release14:51
bodenthat’s all the exciting news I have14:51
mlavalleboden: there were a couple of patches that landed to late to make it to 1.15.014:52
mlavalleThey are needed to keep making progress with https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/174982014:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1749820 in neutron "Unpredictable response on invalid query parameters" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Hongbin Lu (hongbin.lu)14:52
mlavallewhich is in our milestone dashboard14:53
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bodenmlavalle ya, I’m fine with another release as long as we ensure things look good before doing so14:53
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mlavallegreat, hongbin will propose the patch and will keep you in the loop14:53
hongbinmlavalle: thanks for raising this14:54
amotokiwe really appreciate hongbin for fixing tricky topics :)14:54
mlavalle#topic CLI / SDK14:54
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mlavalleany updates on this topic?14:55
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amotokino special update on CLI/SDK stuffs, but in the summit discussion, openstacksdk may host more APIs in Stein or later.14:55
amotokiwe are ahead the community and we can guide the community.14:55
amotokithis is just FYI.14:55
mlavalleThat's great14:55
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mlavalle#topic Open discussion14:56
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mlavalleAnything else we should discuss today?14:56
amotokiI would like to say great thanks to Ihar!14:57
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bcafarelseconding that ^14:58
mlavalleyeah, he has always been a great contributor and insightful reviewer14:58
mlavalleour dorrs will always be open to him14:58
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myratwhat's up guys14:59
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mlavalleThanks for attending. See you next Monday14:59
myrati wanna try devstack in my laptop in vm14:59
manjeets__thank you !14:59
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slaweq_welcome on another meeting :)15:00
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slaweq_#startmeeting neutron_qos15:00
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rubasovhi again15:00
slaweq_now welcome on another meeting :)15:00
mlavallehi there15:00
slaweq_hi rubasov and mlavalle15:01
slaweq_hi lajoskatona_15:01
slaweq_#topic RFEs15:01
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myratwith configuration ram 2 gb processor i3 2 quad15:01
mlavallewelcome lajoskatona_. You did a great job putting together the PoC :-)15:01
lajoskatona_mlavalle: thanks15:01
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slaweq_myrat: I think that You should ask about Your problem on #openstack channel maybe15:02
slaweq_myrat: this is meeting about neutron QoS now15:02
myratoh okay thanks15:02
slaweq_yes lajoskatona_, great job with PoC, thx a lot15:02
slaweq_let's go quickly through different RFEs15:03
slaweq_first one is:15:03
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/172757815:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Triaged]15:03
slaweq_I have no idea if zhaobo6 is working on it currently15:03
slaweq_mlavalle: do You have any informations about it?15:03
mlavallethere is a patch up for review15:04
slaweq_nice, I didn't know15:04
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slaweq_do You have link somewhere?15:04
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558986/15:05
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mlavalleAuthor needs some guidance15:05
mlavalleso let's try to take a look over the next few days15:05
slaweq_mlavalle: sure, thx for link15:05
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slaweq_I will try to look at it15:05
slaweq_next one is:15:06
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157898915:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:06
slaweq_and I don't have any update about this one still15:06
* mlavalle asked amotoki to point the VPN team to the previous patch15:06
slaweq_if someone is interested in working on it - feel free to get it :)15:07
amotokimlavalle: ack :)15:07
slaweq_thx mlavalle - I will take a look from QoS pov15:07
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slaweq_ok, next one15:08
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/156096315:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress]15:08
amotokihonestly I haven't checked how qos stuff works for ipsec interfaces yet.15:08
slaweq_rubasov: lajoskatona_: do You want to give an update about it?15:08
rubasovI just got back to the office from a week of vacation so all my update is what I said on the previous meeting15:09
slaweq_rubasov: lucky You :)15:09
mlavallerubasov: did you have a nice vacation?15:09
rubasovyes, thank you15:10
lajoskatona_slaweq_: We started to integrate together Gibi's patches to see the whole chain together15:10
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rubasovVancouver is beautiful not just from the conference center15:10
lajoskatona_slaweq_: we have some issues around binding now15:10
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lajoskatona_slaweq_: and plan to upload the pathces as wip to review.openstack.org15:10
mlavallesuper cool!15:11
slaweq_ok, please sent it that we can take a look also15:11
lajoskatona_slaweq_: after that I hope it will be easier to discuss the difficulties :-)15:11
lajoskatona_slaweq_:ok thanks15:11
slaweq_lajoskatona_ sure15:11
slaweq_thx a lot15:11
slaweq_ok, so I guess we can go to the next one then15:12
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175704415:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1757044 in neutron "[RFE] neutron L3 router gateway IP QoS" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)15:12
slaweq_this one is new15:12
slaweq_it's not yet approved by drivers team15:13
slaweq_so mlavalle can You take care of it? :)15:13
slaweq_it's not yet approved but patches are already send to review: # link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1757044+(status:open+OR+status:merged)15:13
mlavalleThis is a follow up to what has a;ready implemented, right?15:13
mlavallefor the time being I marked it as rfe-confirmed15:14
mlavalleI will take a look later this week and likely move to rfe-triaged to get it disucssed during the fdrivers meeting15:15
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slaweq_and the last one on my list for today is15:16
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/170846015:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1708460 in neutron " [RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Fouad Benamrane (ftreqah)15:16
slaweq_for this one specs is still waiting for review:15:16
slaweq_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445762/15:16
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* mlavalle will take a look this week15:16
slaweq_please add it to Your list of reviews :)15:16
slaweq_any questions or something to add about RFEs?15:17
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mlavallenot from me15:18
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slaweq_ok, so lets go on to next topic15:19
slaweq_#topic Bugs15:19
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slaweq_I don't have any new bug on my list to discuss15:19
slaweq_there are still two opened bugs since long time:15:19
mlavalleThat's good15:19
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/163918615:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1639186 in neutron "qos max bandwidth rules not working for neutron trunk ports" [Low,Confirmed]15:20
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/173285215:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1732852 in neutron "neutron don't support Router gateway rate limit " [Low,New]15:20
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slaweq_for first one I removed targe milestone which was set to Pike-215:20
slaweq_second one is related to router's gw port so it's somehow related to this new RFE's https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175704415:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1757044 in neutron "[RFE] neutron L3 router gateway IP QoS" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)15:21
mlavalleI was about to point that out15:21
slaweq_but this is related to attaching QoS policy "on L2 level" to port15:21
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mlavalledo we need that?15:22
slaweq_maybe if it will be done properly in this new RFE then we will just be able to e.g. block attaching QoS policy to that kind of ports15:22
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slaweq_and then this one we will be able to close15:22
slaweq_but I'm not sure for now15:22
slaweq_let's wait for LIU Yulong with his RFE maybe15:23
mlavallesounds good15:23
slaweq_any other bug related to QoS You want to discuss today?15:23
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mlavallenot from me15:24
slaweq_ok, great15:24
slaweq_so last topic15:24
slaweq_#topic Open Discussion15:24
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slaweq_I don't have anything for today but maybe You have something15:24
mlavalleme neither15:25
mlavallejust a question15:25
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mlavalleI have noticed that when You write You, it always starts with capital Y15:25
mlavalleis that how it is done in Polish?15:26
mlavallebecause in English, it is just you15:26
slaweq_no, but I always though that it's like it should be in english15:26
slaweq_ok, I will remember to not write it with capital letter then15:26
mlavallekeep it up ;-)15:26
slaweq_thanks :)15:26
mlavalleno, no, I wans't correcting you15:26
mlavalleI was just curious15:27
slaweq_that's fine :)15:27
mlavalleplease keep doing it15:27
slaweq_ok - I will do it for You ;)15:27
mlavalleit's kind of nice15:27
slaweq_ok, so thx for attending and I will give You 30 minutes back :D15:28
slaweq_see You on next meeting15:28
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slaweq#startmeeting neutron_ci16:00
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slaweqhello on yet another meeting today :)16:00
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mlavallehi there16:01
slaweqhi haleyb16:01
slaweqand hi mlavalle again :)16:01
slaweqI think we can start16:01
slaweq#topic Actions from previous meetings16:02
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slaweqslaweq continue debugging fullstack security groups issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/176782916:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1767829 in neutron "Fullstack test_securitygroup.TestSecurityGroupsSameNetwork fails often after SG rule delete" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)16:02
slaweqI couldn’t reproduce this one locally but it looks from logs that it might be same issue as other bug and patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572295/ might help for this16:02
slaweqand it is related to the next action:16:03
slaweqslaweq will check fullstack multiple sg test failure: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177400616:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1774006 in neutron "Fullstack security group test fails on _test_using_multiple_security_groups" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)16:03
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slaweqit looks for me that both have got same reason16:03
slaweqpatch for it is proposed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572295/16:03
mlavallethis last one was mentioned by boden in his deputy email, right?16:03
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slaweqthat's this one :)16:04
slaweqplease review it soon as fullstack is on high failure rate because of it16:04
slaweqlast action from last week was:16:05
slaweqslaweq to propose scenario job with iptables fw driver16:05
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slaweq_sorry I was disconnected16:06
slaweq_so last action from previous week was16:06
slaweq_slaweq to propose scenario job with iptables fw driver16:06
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slaweq_I did patch for neutron:16:07
slaweq_Patch for neutron https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571692/16:07
slaweq_and to update grafana:16:07
Guest89407Minere bitcoin BTC via CPU  https://getcryptotab.com/718967 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzqQN3kL4g&t=166s16:07
slaweq_Patch for grafana: https://review.openstack.org/57238616:07
mlavalleI +2ed the Neutron patch yesterday16:07
mlavalleI assumed haleyb might want to look at it. That's why didn't W+16:08
haleybmlavalle: i will look now/right after meeting16:08
slaweq_it is still waiting for patch in devstack repo16:08
slaweq_so no rush with this one :)16:08
slaweq_ok, next topic then16:09
slaweq_#topic Grafana16:09
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slaweq#topic Grafana16:09
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slaweqso looking at grafana it looks that fullstack is in bad condition recently16:10
mlavalleI saw a timeout earlier today16:11
slaweqwhat timeout?16:11
mlavalleand also, over the weekend, several of my multiple port binding patches failed fullstack with https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/fullstack/test_l3_agent.py#L32516:13
slaweqthis one which You sent might be related to patch on which it was running: http://logs.openstack.org/59/572159/2/check/neutron-fullstack/630967b/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:14
slaweqso let's talk about fullstack now :)16:14
slaweq#topic Fullstack16:14
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mlavallebtw, did you notice the Microsoft logo in github?16:14
slaweqbasically what I found today is that we have two main reasons of failures16:14
slaweqSecurity groups failure, two bugs mentioned before reported - so should be fixed with my patch16:15
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* slaweq looking at github16:15
haleybmlavalle: we will be assimilated and all be writing win10 drivers soon :)16:15
mlavalleoh joy, Visual Basic... yaay!16:16
slaweqand we will have to rewrite openstack to C# :P16:16
slaweqok, getting back to fullstack now :)16:17
slaweqthere is also second issue often:16:17
slaweqIssue with test_ha_router_restart_agents_no_packet_lost16:17
slaweqBug is reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1775183 and I will investigate it this week16:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1775183 in neutron "Fullstack test neutron.tests.fullstack.test_l3_agent.TestHAL3Agent. test_ha_router_restart_agents_no_packet_lost fails often" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)16:17
slaweqexample of failure: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569083/16:17
slaweqsorry, ^^ is link to patch which introduced this failing test16:18
slaweqexample of failure is in bug report16:18
slaweqI don't know if my patch which disabled ipv6 forwarding is not working good or if test is broken16:18
slaweqI will debug it this week16:18
slaweqif I will not find anything for 1 or 2 days I will send patch to mark this test as unstable16:19
mlavalleah ok, so no need to worry bout from the pov of my patches16:19
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mlavallebte, looking at that failure prompted me to propose this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572159/16:20
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slaweqthx mlavalle :)16:20
mlavallebecause now we are restarting other agents, not only L216:21
slaweqbut as You can see in http://logs.openstack.org/59/572159/2/check/neutron-fullstack/630967b/logs/testr_results.html.gz there is no process_name attribute there :)16:22
slaweqso this failure is because of You :P16:22
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mlavallehang on, let me look at something?16:23
slaweq#action slaweq to debug failing test_ha_router_restart_agents_no_packet_lost fullstack test16:23
slaweqmlavalle: sure16:23
mlavalleslaweq: here https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/fullstack/base.py#L91 we call the agent restart method, right?16:25
mlavallewhich I think is this one: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/fullstack/resources/process.py#L8416:25
mlavalleam I wrong?16:26
slaweqnot exactly16:27
slaweqit's OVSAgentFixture16:27
slaweqwhich inherits from ServiceFixture16:27
slaweqand this one not inherits from ProcessFixture16:27
slaweq(don't ask me why)16:27
mlavalleahhh, ok16:27
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slaweqI have no idea if that is intentional of maybe simple bug16:28
mlavalleso it is not going to have process_name attribute16:28
slaweqyes, it's intentional16:28
slaweqso You should do something like16:28
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slaweqand should be good16:28
mlavalleok, thanks16:28
slaweqprobably :)16:28
mlavallewill try that16:29
mlavallelet's give it a try16:29
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slaweqso that's all about fullstack tests what I have for today16:29
slaweqanything else to add?16:29
mlavallenot from me16:30
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mlavalleso weird to see the Microsoft logo all the time16:30
slaweqI think that scenario jobs and rally and in (surprisingly) good shape now16:30
slaweqmlavalle: LOL :)16:30
slaweqbut where You see this logo?16:31
slaweqI have normal github logo at top of page16:31
mlavallego to the top of https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/fullstack/resources/process.py#L8416:31
mlavalleevery github page has it now16:31
slaweqI have still github logo16:31
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slaweqso maybe it's not changed around all CDN's nodes which they use16:32
mlavalleare you signed in?16:32
mlavallethen is is the CDN's16:32
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slaweqmaybe :)16:33
slaweqok, going back to meeting ;)16:33
slaweqrally job is on 0% of failure recently16:33
slaweqI don't know what happened that it's like that but I'm happy with it :)16:33
mlavalledon't jinx it16:34
mlavalledon't event mention it16:34
slaweqok, I will not do it anymore16:34
slaweqso what I want to talk about is:16:34
slaweq#topic Periodic16:34
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slaweqI found that many periodic jobs were failed during last week16:35
slaweq* openstack-tox-py27-with-oslo-master - issue http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/openstack-tox-py27-with-oslo-master/031dc64/testr_results.html.gz16:35
slaweq* openstack-tox-py35-with-neutron-lib-master - failure from same reason as openstack-tox-py27-with-oslo-master - http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/openstack-tox-py35-with-neutron-lib-master/4f4b599/testr_results.html.gz16:35
slaweq* openstack-tox-py35-with-oslo-master - today failure from same reason: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/openstack-tox-py35-with-oslo-master/348faa8/testr_results.html.gz16:35
slaweqall those jobs were failing with same reason16:35
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slaweqI think that I also saw it somewhere in unit tests16:36
slaweqand I think that we should report a bug and someone should take a look on it16:36
slaweqdid You saw it before?16:36
mlavalleYes' Ive seen it a couple of cases in the check queue16:36
mlavalleone of them with py3516:36
slaweqso that would explain why UT on grafana are also spiking to quite high values from time to time - I bet that it's probably this issue mostly16:37
mlavalleif you file the bug, I'll bring it up on Thursday during the OVO meeting16:37
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slaweqok, I will file a bug just after meeting and will send it to You16:38
slaweq#action mlavalle to talk about issue on unit tests on OVO meeting16:38
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slaweqother periodic jobs' failures are not related to neutron but to some problems with volumes16:39
slaweqso that was all what I have for today in my notes16:40
slaweq#topic Open discussion16:40
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slaweqanything else to add/ask?16:40
mlavallenot from me16:40
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slaweqhaleyb do You have anything You want to talk?16:40
slaweqif not then we can finish earlier today16:41
haleybno, don't think i have any ci issues16:41
* slaweq is really fast today ;)16:41
slaweqok, so thx for attending16:41
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jun  5 16:41:36 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:41
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-06-05-16.00.html16:41
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-06-05-16.00.txt16:41
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mlavalleenjoy the rest of your weeks16:41
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clarkbhello infra, anyone here for the meeting?19:00
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clarkba couple people mentioned they won't be able to make it but we have a few things to talk about so may as well get started19:01
clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  5 19:01:21 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:01
clarkb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:01
clarkb#topic Announcements19:01
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clarkbI don't really have any announcments19:02
clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:03
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-05-29-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting19:03
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clarkbDon't see any explicit actions on the last meeting notes, but the change to talk to opendaylights gerrit is still up. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570087/19:04
clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572451/ Is another item that we talked about last week. Basically start talking to kata projects with zuul19:05
fungiwere we waiting for something before approving that?19:05
fungi570087 i mean19:05
clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570087/ Talk to opendaylight's Gerrit with our zuul19:05
clarkbfungi: we needed them to give our account stream access perms19:05
fungioh, right19:06
clarkbI believe zxiiro took care of that19:06
fungithanks zxiiro!19:06
zxiironp :)19:06
fungiso i can just approve it then19:06
clarkbI think so19:06
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clarkb#topic Specs approval19:07
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clarkbI haven't really had time to catch up on the state of specs post summit. I don't think mordred has pushed up the new config mgmt future spec yet but promises me the draft was oepn in vi locally :)19:07
clarkbare there any specs we should be looking at?19:07
fungii can't see mordred's screen from here, unfortunately19:08
anteayaI love it when updates include what files mordred has open on his laptop19:08
clarkb#topic Priority Efforts19:09
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clarkbLet's start with storyboard.19:09
clarkb#topic Storyboard updates19:09
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fungiopenstack-helm and magnum are migrating on friday19:09
clarkbI think we got storyboard web client installing properly on the web server finally19:09
fungiyeah, that too19:09
fungiit's updating normally now from what we can tell19:10
diablo_rojoLooks like Keystone has kicked things off on the dev list discussing things since I finally got around to test migrating them to the dev site19:10
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fungiand today's tripleo weekly newsletter indicates they're evaluating it19:10
clarkbTC is looking at using it for tracking community goals as well? or did I misread that discussion19:11
fungiand something about the ui squad looking at tracking specs/epics in there19:11
fungino, the tc has been doing that for a cycle already19:11
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clarkbah gotcha19:11
clarkbthere is recent talk about migrating stuff to it though? just older items maybe?19:11
fungithey're talking about whether to try to move the previously gerrit-tracked lists of goal completion artifacts into storyboard for historical purposes19:11
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diablo_rojoclarkb, yeah older items I think19:11
fungibut current goal completion is already being tracked in sb19:11
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fungii think that's all for sb updates this week?19:14
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clarkbhow is outreachy going?19:14
clarkbhas that started yet?19:14
diablo_rojoclarkb, she is just getting started- finished finals a week or so ago.19:14
fungii saw our intern pop into #storyboard briefly last week19:15
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* diablo_rojo has a todo to reach out and see if she needs anything since last week19:15
fungimay 30, had some tox questions it seems19:15
clarkbcool, thanks for the update. Sounds like good progress and hopefully with web client being deployed reliably we'll start seeing those new patches soon :)19:15
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clarkb#topic Future Config Management19:15
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clarkbas mentioned earlier I don't think the latest iteration of the spec for this is up yet, but Monty promises it is in progress :)19:16
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clarkbany thoughts/cocnerns related to this particular after decompressing from summit?19:16
fungii've seen a lot of patches from cmurphy for puppet 4 uplift19:17
cmurphyya i'm starting to run out of things to do19:17
cmurphyreviews welcome19:17
fungithough i haven't had a chance to review them, so not sure how that's going19:17
clarkb#info cmurphy's puppet 4 uplift changes need reviews19:17
fungisounds like nobody else has either. sorry! :/19:17
clarkbI was trying before summit things happened19:17
clarkbits mostly a matter of getting testing dnoe and updating manifests right?19:18
cmurphyi've found a lot of the modules don't have any beaker tests at all, not sure how much time i want to spend on writing them :/19:18
clarkbif the updates are trivial (which many I've seen have been) we probably don't need to add tests19:18
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clarkbI'll do my best to dig into that soon (hopefully today)19:19
cmurphywe can migrate them one at a time so i feel like we can do the -dev servers first as canaries instead of writing complete tests19:19
clarkbthat seems reasonable19:20
ianwi can take a look too ... i've found writing the rspec tests quite helpful in bringing up xenial support in a few cases, for sorting out initial issues19:20
fungithat sounds like a swell plan19:20
cmurphyianw: ++ i was looking at adding tests for puppet-askbot and found it does not work on xenial yet :/19:20
clarkb#info writing rspec tests has been useful for finding out if puppet manifests run on Xenial19:21
ianwcmurphy: i have a review set out for that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558991/ & down19:22
cmurphyianw: :D19:22
cmurphyi'll take a look19:22
ianwthanks, upgrading that has been on my todo, there's some discussion on it on openstack-dev somewhere19:23
cmurphyis wiki.o.o properly puppetized yet? that one might end up being tricky if not19:23
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clarkbcmurphy: I don't think so :/19:23
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ianw#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129078.html19:24
fungiit's not, no19:24
ianw^ re the askbot19:24
fungiwiki-dev.o.o is using the puppet-mediawiki module we have, at least19:24
fungihowever it's not fully functional yet (some odd interaction between the openid plugin and some other plugin, maybe mobile view?)19:25
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fungiwiki.o.o is a cname to wiki-upgrade-test.o.o (don't ask, long story) which is not puppeted19:25
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cmurphysome easy reviews here https://review.openstack.org/571022 will let us close out http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/puppet_4_prelim_testing.html i think19:25
fungiso anyway, i guess on a positive note you can't break wiki.o.o by updating puppet-mediawiki at least19:26
clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/571022 will close out http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/puppet_4_prelim_testing.html19:26
clarkbalright anything else before we move on?19:27
cmurphyfungi: i guess that's probably true19:27
clarkbmordred: last chance re config management before we move on to othertopics19:28
mordred(sorry, in flight, a little late getting to altitude)19:28
mordredno - move on - I've got it open in my editor but still not finished. sorry for the delay19:28
clarkbmordred: no problem at least I too feel generally delayed the last week and a half19:28
clarkb#topic General Topics19:29
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clarkbpabelanger: you around?19:29
clarkbpabelanger: was going to mention things like Gerrit 2.15 upgrade and transitioning test resources to bionic19:29
clarkbpabelanger: do you want to fill us in there or should I?19:30
pabelangerI'm sure most people have heard, but over the next few months, I expect my level of upstream work to be less. So, I can't sign up to do the gerrit / bionic tasks right now.  I'd figure we should see if anybody else can do it19:31
pabelangerfor bionic, that is migrating PTI jobs from xenial to bionic. Which should be not that bad19:32
fungithanks for all your hard work over the years, and glad it doesn't sound like you're leaving us completely at least19:32
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pabelangerand for gerrit, I think coming up with a plan with clarkb and fungi to decide if we do database migration now or later19:32
pabelangerfungi: yah, not leaving, just tasked with downstream things now19:32
clarkbThe major tasks I identified we'd probably need new volunteers for are the Gerrit upgrade, bionic transition of testing, general control plane upgrade push, and moving our zuul and nodepool install to the new zk cluster. I don't think we need volunteers for all that right now but if you are interested let me or other infra roots know19:32
clarkbpabelanger: ya we need someone to research that and maybe even test it. I tried to do some research and it seems like we might be able to do the db migration incrementally19:33
clarkbbtu that needs testing and verification (but if that is possible we may have a less painful upgrade path)19:33
pabelangerI'll be able to do some work, just not drive it sadly19:33
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fungii'm hoping some of our regulars who aren't around for the meeting might decide they're interested in one (or both) of those19:35
fungitoday's is not an especially crowded meeting19:35
clarkb#info Gerrit upgrade, Bionic transition for test platform, control plane upgrade, and Zuul/Nodepool zk cluster migration need new volunteer(s) to drive the work19:35
clarkbpabelanger: and yes thank you for all the hard work. Very much hope you'll be back at it soon19:36
clarkbif anyone is interested in these tasks feel free to reach out to myself19:36
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clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571520/ update job config requirements for PTI jobs to allow them to live in project repos19:37
clarkbThis is an item that came about after being pinged quite a bit for trivial project-config changes that were blocking various projects that could otherwise be in repo19:37
clarkbajaeger wasn't able to join us during the meeting but asked that we get group consensus on it before moving forward19:38
clarkbto me this sort of feature is one of the major reasons zuulv3 happened. I think we shoudl take advantage of that feature19:38
fungiwe need feedback from release, requirements and tc ideally19:38
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clarkbfungi: yup those were groups ajaeger brought up. If the infra team isn't opposed I can reach out to those groups19:38
fungii'm strongly in favor of the infra team ceasing to be police of the openstack pti, but having buy-in would be great19:39
* mordred thinks it's a great idea19:39
clarkbI've gone ahead and WIP'd it until we have external buy in. If you are in favor can you leave a positive vote on the change?19:39
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fungiespecially with us moving to a separate organization under the osf, expecting us to be intimately familiar with job policies for all the projects we host seems wrong19:40
clarkbthat way I can show those groups that infra itself is onboard pretty easily19:40
clarkbok, anteaya I think you are up with the limesurvey update19:41
anteayaokay thanks19:41
anteayaso its a thing https://survey.openstack.org/19:41
anteayaso if you go to https://survey.openstack.org/admin you should be able to log in via openstackid19:42
anteayaand create your own surveys19:42
clarkbare all surveys public?19:42
anteayagood question19:42
fungiat the moment my openid is the only superadmin but i can set anyone else's accounts up with full privileges to manage it through the webui19:42
anteayamy understand is that no, they are not public19:42
anteayabut that may be something I need to look more closely at in the settintgs19:42
fungiand yes, this should still be considered a sort of proof-of-concept until we try to use it for a few things and have a better grasp of what it can and can't do19:43
clarkbok I think its fine to have limtied surveys and open surveys. I was just curious if this had an opinion on that19:43
anteayacurrently one needs to recieve a token to take a survey19:43
clarkbfungi: gotcha19:43
fungi"beta" testing phase if you will19:43
anteayanow tokens can be sent to emails19:43
anteayaor reused, but if reused I think association with the submitter is lost19:43
fungiand anyone can log into the /admin interface with their openstackid and start creating surveys too19:43
anteayaI'm gathering feedback on how this all works19:44
anteayaand will be poking about myself now that it is alive19:44
fungia few known gotchas...19:44
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fungibiggest is that if you authenticate it autocreates an account for you (good!) but currently hard-codes the initial name and e-mail address in your profile to dummy values19:45
fungiwe could stand to have someone write a very simply php hook to pass those values dynamically from the apache envvars provided by mod_auth_openid19:45
fungiat least the documentation for limesurvey makes it look fairly extensible in that regard19:45
mordredI would offer to do that - but I think that would not e positive for anyone19:46
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fungialso yeah, it still needs some theming and whatnot (it's basically all the default ui options for the moment)19:46
anteayamordred: because it wouldn't be completed you mean?19:46
mordredfungi: any chance we could trick jimmy or friends into writing a hook?19:46
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mordredanteaya: well, and also I'm terrible at php19:46
anteayamordred, ah19:46
fungimordred: that was my first thought as well19:46
fungiat least we have a puppet class and instructions for setting up a limesurvey instance from scratch, so testing additions to it should be trivial for anyone with a vm to burn19:47
anteayaaslo docs patch for limesurvey admin is up19:47
anteaya#link limesurvey admin docs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571536/19:47
anteayaI need to respin to take in fungi and ianw's comments19:47
anteayathanks for providing them19:48
ianwmine was just minor and only if we need a respin, but i see fungi has added more substantive comments19:48
anteayaianw glad to have your review, thanks for taking the time to look at it :)19:49
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fungimy comments were really more the result me testing some theories about how to streamline the initial setup19:49
anteayathat's all I had on this19:50
anteayathank you19:50
clarkband tahnk you for helping get that running19:50
fungiyes, thanks anteaya!19:50
anteayathanks for letting me19:50
fungiand thanks to all who reviewed the patches19:50
anteayaand thanks for all the heavy lifting fungi19:50
fungionce we get the documentation change merged we can likely push a change to move the spec to completed19:50
clarkbfungi: sounds like a plan19:51
clarkb#topic Open Discussion19:51
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fungithough i expect the document will grow some basic pointers for people creating/running surveys19:51
anteayafungi, the limesurvey docs cover that really well19:51
clarkbthat should be fine, the service is up and useable and bulk of work is done19:51
clarkbbefore our hour is up anything else?19:51
anteayaummm, I've been planting my garden?19:52
clarkbsince it is a hot topic over the last couple days, I will mention that I don't think the infra team needs to do anything re github being bought. It is still a proprietary service run by a company that hasn't changed19:52
clarkbI'll happily point people to alternatives if they are interested in moving but we just mirror there19:53
clarkb(and that is something we've long grumbled about, but this doesn't change the factors of that grumbling imo)19:53
fungithere was an interesting announcement posted to the debian-devel-announce ml about creating a "data protection team" to act as a point of contact over gdpr questions/queries19:53
fungii'd link it here but the web archive seems to be lagging19:54
fungiahh, there19:54
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fungi#link https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/06/msg00000.html Data Protection team delegation19:54
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fungitopics to keep in mind, since i know we've sort of rhetorically asked ourselves what the gdpr means for the services we're running19:55
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mordredfungi: ++19:55
clarkbin general gerrit seems to be of the opinion that the data in git fits under the it can't be changed exemption and our service logs are rotated pretty aggressively in general. Which probably leaves accounts in $service specifically19:56
fungiusing openids helps a lot there too19:57
fungisince we're not maintaining databases of passwords at the moment19:58
clarkbthere has been confusion about what you can log and my reading of the rules is you can log for a reasonable period of time to debug issues in services19:58
mordredit does - ut we copy info from the openid into databases for some of the services (like gerrit) - might not be a bad idea to figure out how to remove such info if asked - or whether anything we copy in is covered19:58
anteayaso it looks like one of the requirements is appointing a point of contact for inquiries, yes?19:58
clarkbso unlike some of the patches pushed to openstack you don't have to remove all the info entirely19:58
clarkbyou just have to rotate it out in logs19:58
clarkbmordred: fungi there is also the potential argument (and I'm not a lawyer) that our four opens gives us a more global exemption19:59
mordredalso - as anteaya said - just a point of contact for people to ask for thinngs - even if the response is "that log will be rotated kthxbai"19:59
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clarkbsince the history or change is so important and that happens out side of git19:59
clarkbanteaya: mordred I think if you are a company you must do this20:00
anteayalooks like that is it20:00
anteayathanks clarkb20:00
clarkbits a bit more nebulous in the context of community run infrastrucutre but a reasonable thing to have either way20:00
mordredmaybe if anyone complains, we'll just forward them to jbryce :)20:00
clarkband we are at time20:00
clarkbthank you everyone20:00
mordredjbryce, the problem go-away maker20:00
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clarkbfeel free to pick up the conversation in the -infra channel or on the mailing list20:01
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jbrycemordred: point away20:11
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mordredjbryce: \o/20:14
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mordredjbryce: I'm gonna get you a t-shirt that says "the problem go-away maker"20:14
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