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| melwitt | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 14 14:00:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| melwitt | hello everybody | 14:00 |
| * dansmith gurgles | 14:00 | |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
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| artom | o/ | 14:00 |
| gibi | \o | 14:00 |
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| * melwitt imagines dansmith is a zombie | 14:00 | |
| tssurya | o/ | 14:01 |
| dansmith | BRAIIINS | 14:01 |
| efried | ō/ | 14:01 |
| melwitt | *gasp* | 14:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:01 |
| melwitt | let's start | 14:01 |
| melwitt | #topic Release News | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
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| melwitt | #link Rocky release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Rocky_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
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| melwitt | we just had the r-2 milestone last week, and I've updated the release schedule with the denver ptg dates september 10-14 | 14:02 |
| melwitt | #info released nova, python-novaclient, osc-placement, and os-traits | 14:02 |
| melwitt | #link nova https://review.openstack.org/573495 | 14:02 |
| patchbot | patch 573495 - releases - rocky: release nova 18.0.0.0b2 (MERGED) | 14:02 |
| melwitt | #link python-novaclient https://review.openstack.org/573453 | 14:02 |
| patchbot | patch 573453 - releases - rocky: release python-novaclient 10.3.0 (MERGED) | 14:02 |
| melwitt | #link osc-placement https://review.openstack.org/573456 | 14:02 |
| patchbot | patch 573456 - releases - rocky: release osc-placement 1.2.0 (MERGED) | 14:02 |
| melwitt | #link os-traits https://review.openstack.org/573454 | 14:02 |
| patchbot | patch 573454 - releases - rocky: release os-traits 0.7.0 (MERGED) | 14:02 |
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| melwitt | #link Rocky review runways: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-rocky | 14:03 |
| melwitt | current runways: | 14:03 |
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| melwitt | #link runway #1: Certificate Validation - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-validate-certificates (bpoulos) [END DATE: 2018-06-15] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/nova-validate-certificates | 14:03 |
| melwitt | #link runway #2: Neutron new port binding API for live migration: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/neutron-new-port-binding-api (mriedem) [END DATE: 2018-06-20] Starts here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558001/ | 14:03 |
| patchbot | patch 558001 - nova - Wait for network-vif-plugged before starting live ... | 14:03 |
| melwitt | #link runway #3: Libvirt file backed memory: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-file-backed-memory (zcornelius) [END DATE: 2018-06-26] starts here https://review.openstack.org/571030 | 14:03 |
| patchbot | patch 571030 - nova - Refactor libvirt get_memory_used_mb() (MERGED) | 14:03 |
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| melwitt | I've started a thread on the dev ML for runways mid cycle feedback, so please chime in there if you have some thoughts on runways | 14:04 |
| melwitt | #link runways feedback thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131476.html | 14:04 |
| melwitt | I think that's all I have for release news and runways. anyone else have anything to add? | 14:04 |
| melwitt | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:05 | |
| melwitt | no critical bugs in the link | 14:05 |
| melwitt | #link 47 new untriaged bugs (up 3 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 14:05 |
| melwitt | #link 14 untagged untriaged bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:05 |
| melwitt | #help need help with bug triage | 14:05 |
| melwitt | #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags | 14:05 |
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| melwitt | Gate status: | 14:06 |
| melwitt | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:06 |
| melwitt | #link nova-cells-v1 gate failure http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131480.html | 14:06 |
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| melwitt | you probably noticed the failures of the nova-cells-v1 job yesterday/early today, the fix has merged so it's now safe to recheck changes that failed from it | 14:06 |
| melwitt | 3rd party CI: | 14:07 |
| melwitt | #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 14:07 |
| melwitt | anything else for bugs or gate status or 3rd party CI? | 14:07 |
| melwitt | #topic Reminders | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:08 | |
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| melwitt | #link Rocky Subteam Patches n Bugs https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:08 |
| melwitt | also, I will be out next week, just FYI | 14:08 |
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| melwitt | and I think mriedem is out wed-fri next week | 14:08 |
| melwitt | does anyone have any other reminders to call out? | 14:08 |
| mriedem | yup | 14:09 |
| melwitt | #topic Stable branch status | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:09 | |
| melwitt | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z | 14:09 |
| melwitt | not too many queens backports (noyce) | 14:09 |
| melwitt | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 14:09 |
| mriedem | probably just haven't been fixing bugs on master... | 14:10 |
| melwitt | :( wah wah | 14:10 |
| mriedem | i know we have several open bug fixes on master that will need to be backported | 14:10 |
| * melwitt nods | 14:10 | |
| melwitt | we have a fair number of pike backports proposed, need to review some of those | 14:11 |
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| melwitt | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 14:11 |
| melwitt | and not too many for ocata | 14:11 |
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| melwitt | #link ocata 15.1.3 released on 2018-06-11 https://review.openstack.org/571522 | 14:11 |
| patchbot | patch 571522 - releases - nova: release ocata 15.1.3 (MERGED) | 14:11 |
| bauzas | shit, I forgot the meeting | 14:11 |
| * bauzas waves super late | 14:11 | |
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| melwitt | anything else for stable branch status? | 14:12 |
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| melwitt | #topic Subteam Highlights | 14:12 |
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| melwitt | we skipped the cells v2 meeting this week. anything you'd like to highlight dansmith? | 14:12 |
| dansmith | nay, just the cellsv1 gate thing you already mentioned | 14:13 |
| mriedem | and, | 14:13 |
| melwitt | k | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | tssurya is working on a poc for the alternatives to the handling a down cell spec it sounds like | 14:13 |
| mriedem | which is going to be a late priority for rocky i think | 14:13 |
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| tssurya | right\ | 14:13 |
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| melwitt | k, let's take a look at that | 14:14 |
| mriedem | we probably need to sh* or get off that pot pretty soon though | 14:14 |
| mriedem | like, week after next | 14:14 |
| mriedem | once people are back | 14:14 |
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| melwitt | yeah | 14:14 |
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| dansmith | yep | 14:15 |
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| melwitt | okay, let's make sure we prioritize handling of a down cell when we're back | 14:15 |
| melwitt | scheduler subteam, efried? | 14:15 |
| efried | We discussed the performance issue brought up by edmondsw in the reshape spec -- #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572583/ -- and decided to go with update_provider_tree getting None for allocs and raising MigrationNeeded if it decides a migration is needed. Spec has been updated accordingly, but there's still a question as to whether we should allow reshapes to happen only on startup or on every periodic. Need dan | 14:15 |
| patchbot | patch 572583 - nova-specs - Spec: Handling Reshaped Provider Trees | 14:15 |
| efried | On reshape, we also brought up the patch for #link placement direct https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572576/ | 14:16 |
| patchbot | patch 572576 - nova - Provide a direct interface to placement | 14:16 |
| efried | which has been updated and is now ready for review. | 14:16 |
| mriedem | i'll hit that again | 14:16 |
| * cdent shows up | 14:16 | |
| efried | Then we got status on the other major efforts in play, namely: | 14:16 |
| efried | #link consumer gens https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567678/ -- this is undergoing active review & revision, merging by stages | 14:17 |
| patchbot | patch 567678 - nova - placement: always create consumer records (MERGED) | 14:17 |
| efried | bottom of that series is now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565405/ | 14:17 |
| patchbot | patch 565405 - nova - placement: Allocation.consumer field | 14:17 |
| efried | #link nrp-in-alloc-cands https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559480/ -- likewise undergoing active review. | 14:17 |
| patchbot | patch 559480 - nova - Return all nested providers in tree | 14:17 |
| efried | This one is a bit tougher because of time zone pain. We (Jay and I) need to stay on making sure we review this every day so we don't lose days. | 14:18 |
| efried | #link placement extraction https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362766/ | 14:18 |
| patchbot | patch 362766 - nova - Optional separate database for placement API | 14:18 |
| efried | This series is ready for review as well - I think cdent queued it up for a runway? | 14:19 |
| cdent | I did, yeah | 14:19 |
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| cdent | gibi found an important issue on the release note, but it is otherwise good | 14:19 |
| efried | Then we talked about priorities and setting some, but decided that was more appropriate for.... this meeting. | 14:19 |
| efried | <eom> | 14:19 |
| * mriedem notes jay is on PTO | 14:19 | |
| efried | Oh, and cdent needs a new n | 14:20 |
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| melwitt | okay, lots of good info and progress there | 14:20 |
| cdent | I sent that keyboard in for repair, which is why I'm late here | 14:20 |
| bauzas | no excuse, you now have intelligent loudspeakers | 14:21 |
| efried | btw, we still need an official new chair for those meetings. | 14:21 |
| efried | And someone to update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaScheduler which is a few weeks behind at this point. | 14:21 |
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| mriedem | efried: sounds like you just volunteered | 14:22 |
| * efried has been assiduously avoiding | 14:22 | |
| efried | I've been hoping cdent would do it. | 14:23 |
| efried | He's been running the meetings | 14:23 |
| mriedem | maybe talk it over after *this* meeting | 14:23 |
| cdent | only because nobody else has. | 14:23 |
| cdent | mriedem++ | 14:23 |
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| melwitt | on the priorities setting, did you want to talk about that now or maybe start a dev ML thread about it? I had thought the reshape/upgrade/migration is most important | 14:24 |
| efried | I can speak to priorities from a sched point of view, but outside of that... nominate mriedem? | 14:25 |
| melwitt | oh, I thought when you said it, it was in the context of the placement subteam priorities | 14:25 |
| efried | I think we're pretty clear on those within the subteam. mriedem brought up overall release priorities | 14:26 |
| melwitt | okay, I see | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | you want to do that now or in open discussion? | 14:26 |
| mriedem | i have generic thoughts | 14:26 |
| efried | which of course need to include placement priorities. I think there's some concern that a) we've got too many things going to be able to finish, and b) we're not completely clear what those things are. | 14:26 |
| mriedem | efried: exactly | 14:26 |
| efried | Open discussion sounds more appropriate. | 14:27 |
| melwitt | agreed, let's do open discussion | 14:27 |
| melwitt | next subteam, notifications, gibi? | 14:27 |
| gibi | there was no meeting this week but I sent a status mail | 14:27 |
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| gibi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131357.html | 14:27 |
| gibi | EOM | 14:27 |
| melwitt | cool, thanks | 14:28 |
| melwitt | anything for subteams? | 14:28 |
| melwitt | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:28 |
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| melwitt | no items in the agenda. does anyone in the room have anything for stuck reviews? | 14:28 |
| melwitt | #topic Open discussion | 14:29 |
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| melwitt | overall priorities. mriedem you have some generic thoughts? | 14:29 |
| mriedem | so in the last few releases when we got into the 3rd milestone, | 14:30 |
| mriedem | i eventually started an etherpad of the approved but not yet completed blueprints, | 14:30 |
| mriedem | and i found this email from queens http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/125953.html | 14:30 |
| mriedem | which is the general idea | 14:30 |
| mriedem | the queens blueprint tracking status etherpad is in there, but mostly empty because i removed stuff as it burned down or was deferred out of queens | 14:30 |
| mriedem | but that helped me get an overall view of what we've agreed to do and what status all of those thing were in | 14:31 |
| mriedem | b/c even though some bps have been approved by now, they are either blocked, stalled or don't even have code up yet | 14:31 |
| mriedem | from that list, i think we can get an idea of what the absolute must get done in rocky things are | 14:31 |
| mriedem | and once we know that, prioritize / make a plan for getting them done | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | we have about 6 weeks to FF | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | so, my recommendation would be to start making an etherpad to track our currently approved but not yet merged blueprints and their status | 14:32 |
| melwitt | okay, I can use this as a guide to make something similar for rocky | 14:32 |
| mriedem | or a board in storyboard if you're so inclined | 14:32 |
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| mriedem | since the etherpad is really just a kanban board of sorts | 14:33 |
| mriedem | up to you | 14:33 |
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| melwitt | I like etherpad, so I think I'll do that. I'll create that today | 14:34 |
| mriedem | i don't think this conflicts with runways, because those are still a good "this is what's ready for review and people should be reviewing these things" tool | 14:34 |
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| melwitt | yeah, okay. so I'll get that created and then we can all take a look and shake out the priorities from that | 14:35 |
| mriedem | sounds good | 14:35 |
| melwitt | cool, thank you | 14:35 |
| mriedem | efried: dansmith: work for you? | 14:35 |
| mriedem | cdent: ^? | 14:35 |
| mriedem | gibi | 14:35 |
| mriedem | all hands | 14:35 |
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| efried | Sounds great to me. | 14:35 |
| cdent | wfm | 14:35 |
| dansmith | sure | 14:35 |
| gibi | +1 | 14:35 |
| gibi | melwitt: there is a section in the notification status mail with blocked or no progress bps that could help creating the etherpad | 14:36 |
| mriedem | that's also generally available in launchpad | 14:36 |
| mriedem | since there would be on changes posted for a given bp | 14:37 |
| mriedem | all hail launchpad! | 14:37 |
| dansmith | but launchpad isn't cool anymore | 14:37 |
| cdent | and there will be a long lost placement update tomorrow which should help add some what's up with placement and priorities context | 14:37 |
| mriedem | my mom says it's cool | 14:37 |
| cdent | yeah, but your mom says you're cool | 14:37 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I think you should keep all your blueprints in a brown paper sack | 14:37 |
| efried | burrrrned | 14:37 |
| mriedem | https://frinkiac.com/gif/S05E18/281864/285818/QlVUIE1ZIE1PTSBTQVlTCiBJJ00gQ09PTC4= | 14:38 |
| melwitt | heh | 14:38 |
| mriedem | for our non-simpsons knowing friends | 14:38 |
| melwitt | gibi, cdent: cool, I'll take a look at those updates. thanks | 14:38 |
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| melwitt | alright, anything else for open discussion before we wrap up? | 14:38 |
| dansmith | I do | 14:39 |
| dansmith | I would like to make a shameless plea to get this +Wd so we can let it soak in the gate for a while before the release: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566696/ | 14:39 |
| patchbot | patch 566696 - nova - Use oslo.messaging per-call monitoring | 14:39 |
| mriedem | ++ - see the dnm patch at the end of the series that tested it | 14:39 |
| mriedem | shows the heartbeats hitting during pre_live_migration | 14:39 |
| efried | put it in a runway, or it's dead to me. | 14:39 |
| mriedem | it's not a bp | 14:40 |
| efried | your funeral | 14:40 |
| melwitt | I'll take a look at it if someone else doesn't beat me to it | 14:40 |
| * cdent collapses | 14:40 | |
| dansmith | thanks | 14:40 |
| melwitt | anyone have anything else for open discussion? | 14:41 |
| cdent | I just wanted to say thanks for the mass of +2 on placement related stuff earlier this week | 14:42 |
| * mriedem notes we've all moved to aix bashing in -nova | 14:42 | |
| cdent | we merged a lot of stuff | 14:42 |
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| cdent | including some big milestones | 14:42 |
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| efried | Oh, yah, we should brag some | 14:42 |
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| efried | That's appropriate for open discussion. | 14:42 |
| mriedem | brag once the docs land... :) | 14:42 |
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| cdent | mriedem buzzkillington | 14:43 |
| efried | yeah, geez | 14:43 |
| mriedem | the III | 14:43 |
| melwitt | cool cdent, that's nice to hear :) | 14:43 |
| dansmith | mriedem: Harshing the mellow since 2012 | 14:43 |
| mriedem | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtLONl4cNc ? | 14:43 |
| efried | what am I watching?? | 14:44 |
| cdent | that video is good for my currently standing desk | 14:44 |
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| cdent | efried: srsly? how old are you? | 14:44 |
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| mriedem | end? | 14:45 |
| efried | I was apparently 6 when this was happening. | 14:45 |
| dansmith | ffs, end | 14:45 |
| cdent | heh | 14:45 |
| melwitt | okay, fun time over. thanks everyone | 14:45 |
| melwitt | #endmeeting | 14:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 14 14:45:32 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:45 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-06-14-14.00.html | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-06-14-14.00.txt | 14:45 |
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| lhinds | rollcall: eeiden fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne | 15:00 |
| lhinds | see who's around | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:01 |
| fungi | around, but also starting rtc office hour right now | 15:01 |
| lhinds | hey gagehugo fungi | 15:01 |
| lhinds | we can just skim over items | 15:02 |
| lhinds | #startmeeting security | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 14 15:02:11 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:02 |
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| lhinds | #topic bandit | 15:02 |
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| lhinds | so I still need to discuss with ian and others on how to integrate 3rd party plugins (openstack tests) | 15:03 |
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| lhinds | nickthetait is not here to update on his migration issue / PR | 15:03 |
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| lhinds | anything from you gagehugo on bandit? | 15:03 |
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| gagehugo | lhinds nah, I've been neglecting reviews, I have a bunch of emails of changes to get caught up on | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | emails of bandit pull requests* | 15:04 |
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| lhinds | no worries! | 15:05 |
| lhinds | #topic ossn | 15:05 |
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| lhinds | so I think as far as OSSN, its only nick that has an item, so we can skip on from there | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | looks like it | 15:05 |
| lhinds | #topic OSSA | 15:05 |
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| lhinds | fungi: any OSSA matters need help / raising? | 15:06 |
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| fungi | looking to see if there are any public ones coming due | 15:07 |
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| lhinds | thx fungi | 15:07 |
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| fungi | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1742102 Simple user can disable compute | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1742102 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Simple user can disable compute" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 15:09 |
| fungi | that ones close to done i think | 15:09 |
| fungi | still waiting on the pike backport to merge | 15:09 |
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| lhinds | sounds heavy! | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | hmm | 15:10 |
| lhinds | k , thanks fungi | 15:10 |
| lhinds | gagehugo: anything else on the agenda you want to pick over? | 15:10 |
| fungi | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1757482 IP address for a router interface allowed outside the allocation range of subnet | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1757482 in neutron "IP address for a router interface allowed outside the allocation range of subnet" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:11 |
| fungi | has some movement as of a few minutes ago | 15:11 |
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| fungi | otherwise nothing new | 15:11 |
| lhinds | ok, thanks fungi | 15:11 |
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| gagehugo | lhinds no | 15:13 |
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| lhinds | gagehugo: me too. | 15:13 |
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| lhinds | so I thinik we can close for now, I will hopefully have some more on bandit next week | 15:13 |
| lhinds | thanks gagehugo fungi ! | 15:14 |
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| lhinds | #endmeeting | 15:14 |
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| fungi | thanks to you too! | 15:14 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 14 15:14:16 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-06-14-15.02.html | 15:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-06-14-15.02.txt | 15:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-06-14-15.02.log.html | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | thanks | 15:14 |
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