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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 4 04:01:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:01 |
| samP | Hi all for Masakari | 04:01 |
| sagara | Hi | 04:01 |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:01 |
| samP | sagara: Hi | 04:01 |
| samP | tpatil: Hi | 04:02 |
| samP | let's start | 04:02 |
| samP | #topic bugs/issues | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs/issues (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:02 | |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1779752+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 04:03 |
| tpatil | samP: I have noticed you have approved 3-4 patches. Zuul is failing for one patch, We will fix this issue soon | 04:03 |
| tpatil | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590735/ | 04:03 |
| tpatil | Zuul requirements-check job is failing, we will look into this issue | 04:03 |
| tpatil | To merge these patches, we need another +2 | 04:04 |
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| tpatil | samara: Can you please review these patches? | 04:04 |
| samP | My bad, I think we have to put requirement job for non-voting | 04:04 |
| tpatil | sorry, it mean sagara | 04:04 |
| tpatil | I mean sagara | 04:05 |
| samP | As in here, | 04:06 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/588157/3/.zuul.yaml | 04:06 |
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| sagara | tpatil: OK, I'll check it from now | 04:06 |
| tpatil | sagara: As I'm included in co-author, I'm not approving these patches | 04:07 |
| sagara | tpatil: OK, understood that | 04:08 |
| samP | I think first we have to import zuul jobs as proposed in here, | 04:10 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592980/ | 04:10 |
| samP | Then make requirements-check voting to false | 04:11 |
| tpatil | samP: We will do the needful | 04:12 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:12 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591557/ | 04:13 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562973/ | 04:13 |
| samP | Both LGTM. Thanks. | 04:14 |
| samP | I would like to backport them to rocky. | 04:14 |
| tpatil | samP: We will do the needful | 04:14 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:15 |
| samP | Any other patches/bugs to discuss/ | 04:15 |
| samP | if any please bring them up anytime. | 04:16 |
| samP | let't move to next topic | 04:16 |
| samP | #topic PTG | 04:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:16 | |
| samP | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-ptg-stein | 04:16 |
| samP | Thanks for adding topics | 04:17 |
| tpatil | I have proposed few topics which I would like to see in Stein release | 04:17 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks. | 04:19 |
| tpatil | samP: Are you planning to merge masakari-monitors functionality in openstack-dev resource agents? | 04:19 |
| samP | I guess we both added functional tests, so I'm gonna remove mine | 04:19 |
| tpatil | functional tests for openstacksdk | 04:20 |
| samP | tpatil: ah.. yes. Then that is a different one | 04:20 |
| tpatil | adding functional tests in masakari and openstacksdk is almost same | 04:20 |
| tpatil | not openstack-dev resource agents, I mean to say openstack resource agents | 04:21 |
| samP | tpatil: About openstack resource agents, I would like to discuss this topic on PTG | 04:22 |
| tpatil | The reason to ask this questions is becoz, we are planning to add support in ansible and devstack for masakari-monitors | 04:23 |
| samP | tpatil: In that case, we will use masakari-monitors. With considering current functionality of the masakari monitors, | 04:24 |
| tpatil | We can have this kind of discussion during PTG | 04:24 |
| samP | openstack resource agents are not a 100% replacement for masakari monitors | 04:25 |
| samP | I would like to discuss this with aspiers about this on PTG | 04:25 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:26 |
| samP | I will try put more details into etherpad before PTG | 04:27 |
| samP | Really sorry, but I only attend on Monday(9/10) and Tuesday(9/11) for PTG | 04:28 |
| samP | Are you will be there on Tuesday for masakari meeting? | 04:30 |
| tpatil | samP: I think two days are long enough to discuss all topics | 04:30 |
| samP | tpatil: MF, we officially have one day :) | 04:32 |
| samP | However, I am available on Monday also, if anyone wants to discuss | 04:33 |
| samP | We can use free area | 04:33 |
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| samP | That's all the topics from my side | 04:34 |
| tpatil | Next meeting, in Denver, it will be 10:00 P.M. If required I can join. But I think most of us will be in Denver so we can skip next meeting | 04:34 |
| samP | Ah, yes. I think we have already agree to sikp next meeting.. | 04:35 |
| samP | Let's skip the next meeting, since all of us in PTG. | 04:35 |
| samP | Or, if anyone needs to discuss any issues, please send the email to openstaci-dev with [masakari] | 04:36 |
| samP | we can re-consider about the next week meeting | 04:37 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:37 | |
| samP | Any other items to discuss/ | 04:37 |
| samP | If not, we can conclude today's meeting. | 04:38 |
| tpatil | No other topics to be discussed from my end | 04:39 |
| samP | ah we have to take, Team Photo on PTG | 04:39 |
| samP | I will put details into etherpad | 04:39 |
| samP | tpatil: Thanks | 04:40 |
| tpatil | Looking forward to see you all in PTG | 04:40 |
| samP | OK then, C U all in PTG | 04:41 |
| samP | save travel! | 04:41 |
| samP | Thank you all for your time. | 04:41 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 04:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 4 04:42:00 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-09-04-04.01.html | 04:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-09-04-04.01.txt | 04:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-09-04-04.01.log.html | 04:42 |
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| dkushwaha | #startmeeting tacker | 08:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 4 08:02:37 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkushwaha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:02 |
| dkushwaha | #topic Roll Call | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:02 | |
| phuoc | o/ | 08:02 |
| joxyuki | hi | 08:03 |
| dkushwaha | hi phuoc, joxyuki | 08:03 |
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| phuoc | hi | 08:03 |
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| dkushwaha | it seems less team members are available | 08:05 |
| dkushwaha | lets wait for couple of minutes | 08:05 |
| longkb | o/ Tacker folks :D | 08:06 |
| dkushwaha | hi longkb | 08:06 |
| trinaths | Hi | 08:06 |
| dkushwaha | hi trinaths | 08:06 |
| dkushwaha | ok lets start.. | 08:07 |
| dkushwaha | #chair phuoc | 08:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dkushwaha phuoc | 08:07 |
| dkushwaha | #topic Announcements | 08:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:07 | |
| nguyenhai93 | hi | 08:07 |
| dkushwaha | OpenStack rocky release in last week. | 08:08 |
| dkushwaha | #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/ | 08:08 |
| longkb | o/ nguyenhai93 :D | 08:08 |
| trinaths | congratulations | 08:08 |
| dkushwaha | We are now in Stein | 08:08 |
| trinaths | ok | 08:09 |
| dkushwaha | in Rocky, Tacker contributions ranked 37 in review, and 53 in commits | 08:10 |
| dkushwaha | #link http://stackalytics.com/?release=rocky&metric=marks | 08:10 |
| dkushwaha | #topic BPs | 08:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BPs (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:11 | |
| trinaths | http://stackalytics.com/?release=rocky&metric=marks&module=tacker-group | 08:11 |
| dkushwaha | I have started drafting spec for resources force delete feature | 08:11 |
| trinaths | ok. can you give the link | 08:12 |
| dkushwaha | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/force-delete-resources | 08:12 |
| dkushwaha | trinaths, thanks | 08:12 |
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| dkushwaha | in this week i will submit the patch | 08:12 |
| phuoc | that's great :) | 08:12 |
| longkb | dkushwaha: I thinks it would be RFE rather than blueprint | 08:13 |
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| dkushwaha | longkb, we need it for all resources(VNF, VNFFG etc..), so I think it will be good to have BP | 08:14 |
| longkb | +1 dkushwaha. Please go ahead :D | 08:15 |
| dkushwaha | #topic python3-first | 08:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "python3-first (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:15 | |
| dkushwaha | we have multiple patches for python3-first | 08:16 |
| dkushwaha | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:python3-first+status:open+(projects:openstack/tacker++OR+project:openstack/python-tackerclient+) | 08:16 |
| dkushwaha | All these are small patches, Please review it, so that it can be merged soon. | 08:16 |
| dkushwaha | phuoc, joxyuki longkb trinaths ^^ | 08:17 |
| phuoc | yes, I will look at them | 08:18 |
| longkb | +Infinity phuoc :D | 08:18 |
| dkushwaha | phuoc, Thanks | 08:18 |
| nguyenhai93 | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:%255E.*tacker.*+topic:python3-first+status:open+author:%22Nguyen+Hai%22 | 08:19 |
| trinaths | ok | 08:19 |
| nguyenhai93 | I think no problem for those patches | 08:19 |
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| dkushwaha | #topic BP: reservation-vnf | 08:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BP: reservation-vnf (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:20 | |
| dkushwaha | joxyuki, Do you any update on that? | 08:20 |
| dkushwaha | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/reservation-vnfm | 08:20 |
| joxyuki | dkushwaha, yes, but I still work on it. | 08:21 |
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| joxyuki | it will be updated in 2 week. | 08:21 |
| dkushwaha | joxyuki, ok. | 08:21 |
| dkushwaha | joxyuki, thanks | 08:22 |
| dkushwaha | #topic Open Discussion | 08:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:23 | |
| dkushwaha | phuoc, do you have something to talk ? | 08:23 |
| phuoc | I have plan to support kuryr-kubernetes in Tacker | 08:24 |
| dkushwaha | phuoc, link please | 08:24 |
| phuoc | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/kuryr-kubernetes-integration | 08:25 |
| phuoc | here it is | 08:25 |
| dkushwaha | phuoc, great | 08:26 |
| dkushwaha | phuoc, ok , I will review it | 08:26 |
| phuoc | I will support upgrade Tacker template to newest ETSI TOSCA https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583074 | 08:27 |
| dkushwaha | phuoc, you mean with heat-translator and tosca-parser side too? | 08:28 |
| phuoc | yes, I think I have some knowledge about them, I hope I can put my effort to do it :) | 08:29 |
| dkushwaha | phuoc, Thnks, This will be very helpful to move forward quickly. | 08:30 |
| dkushwaha | trinaths, nguyenhai93 longkb anything else | 08:32 |
| dkushwaha | ? | 08:32 |
| longkb | Nothing from me :) | 08:32 |
| nguyenhai93 | no from me | 08:32 |
| trinaths | nothing from my end. :) | 08:32 |
| dkushwaha | Ok | 08:33 |
| dkushwaha | Folks, we have to plan our PTG | 08:33 |
| dkushwaha | Please put your idea in etherpad for this vPTG | 08:34 |
| dkushwaha | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tacker-PTG-Stein | 08:34 |
| trinaths | sure | 08:34 |
| dkushwaha | please lat me me know, when we can schedule. | 08:34 |
| dkushwaha | please suggest, I will create google poll for that, and will schedule accordingly | 08:36 |
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| phuoc | thank dkushwaha :) | 08:36 |
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| phuoc | hi bhagyashris_ | 08:37 |
| bhagyashris_ | Hi phuoc | 08:37 |
| dkushwaha | is it ok to plan sometime in between 19 to 21 Sep ? | 08:37 |
| phuoc | we are planning Tackerr PTG, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tacker-PTG-Stein | 08:38 |
| dkushwaha | hi bhagyashris_ | 08:38 |
| joxyuki | ok for me | 08:38 |
| phuoc | if you have something to talk, you can talk here | 08:38 |
| phuoc | or update thatt pad | 08:38 |
| bhagyashris_ | dkushwaha: Hi | 08:39 |
| dkushwaha | joxyuki, Thanks | 08:39 |
| phuoc | dkushwaha, it's fine for me | 08:39 |
| bhagyashris_ | Joxyuki: Hi, | 08:40 |
| joxyuki | bhagyasris_, hi | 08:40 |
| bhagyashris_ | Thank for this https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tacker-PTG-Stein actually I was waiting for this link | 08:40 |
| dkushwaha | phuoc, thanks | 08:40 |
| bhagyashris_ | :) | 08:40 |
| nguyenhai93 | ah, one more thing | 08:41 |
| nguyenhai93 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572984/ | 08:41 |
| nguyenhai93 | this patch is very long time ago | 08:41 |
| nguyenhai93 | it should be handled. | 08:41 |
| nguyenhai93 | also, Tacker should move to storyboard | 08:42 |
| trinaths | the patch still fails. | 08:42 |
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| dkushwaha | nguyenhai93, just commented on that | 08:44 |
| dkushwaha | nguyenhai93, I tried it on my local env, but it was success there | 08:44 |
| bhagyashris_ | i would like to share we can add the link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tacker-PTG-Stein in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Stein/Etherpads that will be useful to all not sure how to add | 08:44 |
| dkushwaha | Thanks bhagyashris_ I will add it | 08:45 |
| bhagyashris_ | ok :) | 08:46 |
| dkushwaha | #action dkushwaha will add PTG etherpad link in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Stein/Etherpads | 08:46 |
| dkushwaha | nguyenhai93, Ok, I will check that patch again | 08:47 |
| dkushwaha | #action dkushwaha will create google poll for vPTG and share it on mail | 08:48 |
| dkushwaha | Thats all from my side. | 08:49 |
| nguyenhai93 | thanks | 08:49 |
| dkushwaha | anything else.. | 08:49 |
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| dkushwaha | ok | 08:50 |
| dkushwaha | Thanks Folks , closing this meeting | 08:50 |
| bhagyashris_ | Just one query where will discussion conduct in the PTG | 08:50 |
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| bhagyashris_ | I mean any room assign for tacker discussion | 08:51 |
| dkushwaha | I will share channel name, like bluejeanse | 08:51 |
| dkushwaha | bhagyashris_, ^^ | 08:51 |
| bhagyashris_ | ok | 08:51 |
| bhagyashris_ | Thank you :) | 08:51 |
| dkushwaha | #endmeeting | 08:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 4 08:51:53 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-09-04-08.02.html | 08:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-09-04-08.02.txt | 08:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-09-04-08.02.log.html | 08:51 |
| trinaths | bye | 08:52 |
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| slaweq_ | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 4 16:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| slaweq_ | hi | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 16:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 16:00 |
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| slaweq_ | ok, let's start | 16:00 |
| slaweq_ | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| slaweq_ | mlavalle to check another cases of failing neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_dns_integration.DNSIntegrationTests.test_server_with_fip test | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | I did | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | I checked other ocurrences of this bug | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | I found that not only happend with the DNS integration job | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | but in other jobs as well | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | also found that the evidence points to a problem with Nova | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | which never rumes the instance | 16:02 |
| slaweq_ | did You talk with mriedem about that? | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | it seems to me the compute manager is mixing up the events from Neutron and the virt layer | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | I pinged mriedem ealier today.... | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | but he hasn't responded. I assume he is busy and will pong back later | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | I will follow up with him | 16:03 |
| slaweq_ | ok, good that You are on it :) | 16:03 |
| slaweq_ | thx mlavalle | 16:03 |
| slaweq_ | #action mlavalle to talk with mriedem about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1788006 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1788006 in neutron "Tests fail with "Server [UUID] failed to reach ACTIVE status and task state "None" within the required time ([INTEGER] s). Current status: BUILD. Current task state: spawning."" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:03 |
| slaweq_ | I added action just to not forget it next time :) | 16:04 |
| mriedem | mlavalle: sorry, | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | yeah, please keep me honest | 16:04 |
| mriedem | forgot to reply | 16:04 |
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| mriedem | i'm creating stories for each project today | 16:04 |
| slaweq_ | hi mriedem | 16:04 |
| mriedem | oh sorry thought we were talking about the upgrade-checkers goal :) | 16:04 |
| slaweq_ | no, we are talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1788006 | 16:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1788006 in neutron "Tests fail with "Server [UUID] failed to reach ACTIVE status and task state "None" within the required time ([INTEGER] s). Current status: BUILD. Current task state: spawning."" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | mriedem: when you have time, please look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1788006 | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | mriedem: we think we need help from a Nova expert | 16:05 |
| * mriedem throws it on the pile | 16:05 | |
| mlavalle | mriedem: Thanks :-) | 16:05 |
| slaweq_ | thx mriedem | 16:05 |
| slaweq_ | ok, so let's move on to next actions now | 16:06 |
| slaweq_ | mlavalle to check failing router migration from DVR tests | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | I am working on that one right now | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | the migrations failing are always from HA to {dvr, dvr-ha, legacy} | 16:07 |
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| mlavalle | it seems that when you set the admin_state_up to False in the router.... | 16:07 |
| slaweq_ | yes, but that's related to other bug I think, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1789434 | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1789434 in neutron "neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_migration.NetworkMigrationFromHA failing 100% times" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | the "device_owner":"network:router_ha_interface" never goes down | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | yeah, that is what I am talking about | 16:08 |
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| mlavalle | I have confirmed that is the case for migration from HA to DVR | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | and from HA to HA-DVR | 16:09 |
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| mlavalle | I expect the same to be happening for HA to legacy (or Coke Classic as I think of it) | 16:10 |
| mlavalle | I intend to contnue debugging | 16:10 |
| slaweq_ | but that check if ports are down was introduced by me recently, and it was passing then IIRC | 16:10 |
| mlavalle | it is not passing now | 16:10 |
| slaweq_ | so was there any other change recently which could cause such issue? | 16:10 |
| slaweq_ | yes, I know it is not passing now :) | 16:10 |
| mlavalle | I was about to ask the same.... | 16:11 |
| mlavalle | the ports status remains active all the time | 16:11 |
| haleyb | so the port doesn't go down, or the interface in the namespace? as in two routers have active ha ports | 16:11 |
| mlavalle | the test is checking for the status of the port | 16:12 |
| slaweq_ | mlavalle: haleyb: this is patch which adds this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/589410/ | 16:12 |
| mlavalle | that's as far as I've checked so far | 16:12 |
| slaweq_ | migration from HA tests were passing then | 16:12 |
| haleyb | ok, so the port, strange | 16:13 |
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| slaweq_ | yes, that is really strange | 16:14 |
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| mlavalle | well, that's what the test checks | 16:14 |
| mlavalle | the status of the port | 16:14 |
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| slaweq_ | yes, I added it to avoid race condition during migration from legacy to ha, described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1785582 | 16:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1785582 in neutron "Connectivity to instance after L3 router migration from Legacy to HA fails" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:15 |
| mlavalle | I remember and logically it makes sense | 16:16 |
| slaweq_ | but if router is set to admin_state_down, its ports should be set to down also, right? | 16:16 |
| slaweq_ | but mlavalle You can at least repoduce it manually, right? | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | I haven't tried manually yet. That is my next step | 16:17 |
| slaweq_ | or ports status is fine during manual actions? | 16:17 |
| slaweq_ | ahh, ok | 16:17 |
| slaweq_ | so I will add it as action for You for next week, ok? | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | of course | 16:17 |
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| mlavalle | as I said earlier, keep me honest | 16:17 |
| slaweq_ | #action mlavalle continue debugging failing MigrationFromHA tests, bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1789434 | 16:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1789434 in neutron "neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_migration.NetworkMigrationFromHA failing 100% times" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:18 |
| slaweq_ | thx mlavalle | 16:18 |
| slaweq_ | slaweq to report a bug about timouts in neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge | 16:18 |
| slaweq_ | that was next one | 16:18 |
| slaweq_ | I reported it https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1789579 | 16:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1788006 in neutron "duplicate for #1789579 Tests fail with "Server [UUID] failed to reach ACTIVE status and task state "None" within the required time ([INTEGER] s). Current status: BUILD. Current task state: spawning."" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:19 |
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| slaweq_ | but it's in fact duplicate of issue mentioned before https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1788006 | 16:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1788006 in neutron "Tests fail with "Server [UUID] failed to reach ACTIVE status and task state "None" within the required time ([INTEGER] s). Current status: BUILD. Current task state: spawning."" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:19 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 16:19 |
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| slaweq_ | so let's move forward | 16:19 |
| slaweq_ | next was | 16:19 |
| slaweq_ | mlavalle to ask Mike Bayer about functional db migration tests failures | 16:19 |
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| mlavalle | I also suspect that some of the failures we are getting in the DVR multinode job are also due to this issue with Nova | 16:19 |
| mlavalle | and the others are due to router migration | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | I conclude that from the results of my queries with Kibana | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | now moving on to Mike Bayer | 16:20 |
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| mlavalle | I was going to ping him | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | but the log that is pointed out in the bug doesn't exist anymore | 16:21 |
| mlavalle | and I don't want to ping him if I don't have data for him to look | 16:21 |
| slaweq_ | ok, I will update bug report with fresh log today and will ping You | 16:21 |
| slaweq_ | fine for You? | 16:21 |
| mlavalle | so let's keep our eyes open for one of those failures | 16:22 |
| mlavalle | as soon as I have one, I'll ping him | 16:22 |
| mlavalle | yes | 16:22 |
| slaweq_ | ok, sounds good | 16:22 |
| mlavalle | I will also update the bug if I find one | 16:22 |
| slaweq_ | if I will have anything new, I will update bug | 16:22 |
| slaweq_ | :) | 16:22 |
| slaweq_ | ok | 16:22 |
| slaweq_ | last one from last week was | 16:22 |
| slaweq_ | slaweq to mark fullstack security group test as unstable again | 16:22 |
| slaweq_ | Done: https://review.openstack.org/597426 | 16:22 |
| slaweq_ | it's merged recently so fullstack tests should be in better shape now | 16:23 |
| slaweq_ | and that was all for actions from previous week | 16:23 |
| slaweq_ | let's move to next topic | 16:23 |
| slaweq_ | #topic Grafana | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:23 | |
| slaweq_ | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:24 |
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| slaweq_ | FYI: patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595763/ is merged so in graphs we have now also included jobs which were TIMED_OUT | 16:25 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:26 |
| slaweq_ | speaking about last week, there was spike around 31.08 on many jobs | 16:26 |
| slaweq_ | it was related to some infra bug, fixed in https://review.openstack.org/591527 | 16:26 |
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| njohnston | Just to note, I have a change to bump the "older" dashboards versions and to bring them in line with slaweq_'s format: https://review.openstack.org/597168 | 16:28 |
| mlavalle | yeah I can see that | 16:28 |
| slaweq_ | thx njohnston for working on this :) | 16:28 |
| mlavalle | ok, so in principle we shouldn't worry about the spike on 8/31 | 16:28 |
| slaweq_ | yep | 16:29 |
| slaweq_ | and speaking about other things I think we have one main problem now | 16:29 |
| slaweq_ | and it's tempest/scenario jobs issue which we already talked about | 16:29 |
| mlavalle | the nova issue? | 16:30 |
| slaweq_ | yes | 16:30 |
| mlavalle | ok, I'll stay on top of it | 16:30 |
| slaweq_ | this is basically most common issue I found when I was checking for job results | 16:30 |
| slaweq_ | and it is quite paintfull as it happens randomly on many jobs so You need to recheck jobs many times and each time different job fails :/ | 16:31 |
| slaweq_ | because of that it is also not very visible on graphs IMO | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | but the same underlying problem | 16:31 |
| slaweq_ | yes, from what I was checking it looks like that, culprit is the same | 16:32 |
| slaweq_ | ok, but let's talk about few other issues which I also found :) | 16:32 |
| slaweq_ | #topic Tempest/Scenario | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest/Scenario (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:33 | |
| slaweq_ | so, except this "main" issue I found few times that same shelve/unshelve test was again failing | 16:33 |
| slaweq_ | examples: | 16:33 |
| slaweq_ | * http://logs.openstack.org/71/516371/8/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/bb2ae6a/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:33 |
| slaweq_ | * http://logs.openstack.org/59/591059/3/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/72dbf69/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:33 |
| slaweq_ | * http://logs.openstack.org/72/507772/66/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/aff626c/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:33 |
| slaweq_ | I think mlavalle You were checking that in the past, right? | 16:33 |
| mlavalle | yeah I think I was | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | how urgent is it compared to the other two I am working on? | 16:34 |
| slaweq_ | not very urgent I think | 16:34 |
| slaweq_ | I found those 3 examples in last 50 jobs or something like that | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | ok, give me an action item, so I remeber | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | I don't want it to fall through the cracks | 16:35 |
| mlavalle | on the understanding that I'll get it to it after the others | 16:35 |
| slaweq_ | do You remember bug report for that maybe? | 16:35 |
| mlavalle | slaweq_: don't worry, I'll find it. for the time being just mention the shelve / unshelve issue in the AI | 16:36 |
| slaweq_ | mlavalle: ok | 16:36 |
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| slaweq_ | #action mlavale to check issue with failing test_attach_volume_shelved_or_offload_server test | 16:36 |
| mlavalle | thanks :-) | 16:37 |
| slaweq_ | thx mlavalle | 16:37 |
| slaweq_ | ok, let's move on | 16:37 |
| slaweq_ | I also found one more example of another error: http://logs.openstack.org/96/596896/2/check/tempest-full-py3/95eba41/testr_results.html.gz | 16:37 |
| slaweq_ | it was some error during FIP deletion | 16:37 |
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| slaweq_ | but rest api call was done to nova: 500 DELETE https://10.210.194.229/compute/v2.1/os-floating-ips/a06bbb30-1914-4467-9e75-6fc70d99427f | 16:39 |
| slaweq_ | and I can't find FIP with such uuid in nova-api logs nor neutron-server logs | 16:40 |
| slaweq_ | do You maybe know where this error may be? | 16:40 |
| mlavalle | mhhh | 16:41 |
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| mlavalle | so a06bbb30-1914-4467-9e75-6fc70d99427f is not in the neutron server log? | 16:41 |
| slaweq_ | no | 16:42 |
| slaweq_ | and also there is no any ERROR in neutron-server log: http://logs.openstack.org/96/596896/2/check/tempest-full-py3/95eba41/controller/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 16:42 |
| slaweq_ | which is strange IMO because this error 500 came from somewhere, right? | 16:42 |
| mlavalle | right | 16:42 |
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| slaweq_ | it's only one such failed test but it's interesting for me :) | 16:42 |
| mlavalle | indeed | 16:43 |
| mlavalle | maybe our fips our plunging into a black hole | 16:43 |
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| slaweq_ | in tempest log: http://logs.openstack.org/96/596896/2/check/tempest-full-py3/95eba41/controller/logs/tempest_log.txt | 16:44 |
| slaweq_ | it's visible in 3 places | 16:44 |
| slaweq_ | once when it's created | 16:44 |
| slaweq_ | and then when it's removed | 16:44 |
| slaweq_ | with erro 500 | 16:45 |
| * mlavalle looking | 16:45 | |
| mlavalle | yeahbut it responded 200 for the POST | 16:46 |
| mlavalle | and the fip doesn't work either | 16:47 |
| mlavalle | the ssh fails | 16:48 |
| slaweq_ | because it was not visible anywhere in neutron IMO so it couldn't work, right? | 16:48 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 16:48 |
| slaweq_ | maybe that is also culprit of other issues with not working FIP | 16:49 |
| slaweq_ | let's keep an eye on it and check if on other examples similar things will pop up | 16:49 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:49 |
| slaweq_ | next topic | 16:50 |
| slaweq_ | #topic Fullstack | 16:50 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq_: http://logs.openstack.org/96/596896/2/check/tempest-full-py3/95eba41/controller/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_Sep_02_23_25_07_989880 | 16:50 |
| mlavalle | the fip uuid is in the neutron server log | 16:51 |
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| slaweq_ | so I was searching too fast, and not whole log was loaded in browser :) | 16:51 |
| slaweq_ | sorry for that | 16:51 |
| mlavalle | np | 16:51 |
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| mlavalle | I'll let you dig deeper | 16:52 |
| slaweq_ | but delete was also fine: http://logs.openstack.org/96/596896/2/check/tempest-full-py3/95eba41/controller/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_Sep_02_23_25_30_966952 | 16:52 |
| slaweq_ | I will check those logs once again later | 16:53 |
| mlavalle | right, so it seems the problem is more on the NOva side | 16:53 |
| slaweq_ | maybe :) | 16:53 |
| slaweq_ | let's back to fullstack for now | 16:53 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:53 |
| slaweq_ | test_securitygroups test is marked as unstable now so it should be at least in better shape then it was recently | 16:54 |
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| slaweq_ | I will continue debugging this issue when I will have some time | 16:54 |
| slaweq_ | I think that this is most common issue in fullstack tests and without failing this one, it should be good with other things | 16:55 |
| mlavalle | great! | 16:55 |
| slaweq_ | I have one more question about fullstack | 16:55 |
| njohnston | excellent | 16:55 |
| slaweq_ | what You think about switching fullstack-python35 to be voting? | 16:55 |
| slaweq_ | it's following exactly failure rate of py27 job: http://grafana.openstack.org/d/Hj5IHcSmz/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=22&fullscreen&orgId=1&from=now-7d&to=now | 16:55 |
| njohnston | at this point should I change it to be fullstack-py36 before we commit it? | 16:56 |
| slaweq_ | or maybe we should switch neutron-fullstack to be py35 and add neutron-fullstack-python27 in parallel? | 16:56 |
| slaweq_ | njohnston: ok, so You want to switch it to py36 and check few more weeks how it will be? | 16:56 |
| mlavalle | I like that paln | 16:57 |
| njohnston | at least a week, yes | 16:57 |
| slaweq_ | that is good idea IMO | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | can we swicth it this week? | 16:57 |
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| mlavalle | that way we get the week of the PTG as testing and if everything goes well, we can pull the trigger in two weeks | 16:58 |
| njohnston | yes, I will get that change up today | 16:58 |
| slaweq_ | great, thx njohnston | 16:58 |
| slaweq_ | #action njohnston to switch fullstack-python35 to python36 job | 16:58 |
| slaweq_ | ok, lets move quickly to last topic | 16:58 |
| slaweq_ | #topic Open discussion | 16:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:58 | |
| slaweq_ | FYI: QA team asked me to add list of slowest tests from neutron jobs to https://ethercalc.openstack.org/dorupfz6s9qt - they want to move such tests to slow job | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:59 |
| slaweq_ | Such slow job for neutron is proposed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583847/ | 16:59 |
| njohnston | sounds smart | 16:59 |
| slaweq_ | I will try to check longest tests in our jobs this week | 16:59 |
| slaweq_ | second thing I want to annonce is that I will cancel next week's meeting due to PTG | 17:00 |
| slaweq_ | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 4 17:00:06 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-09-04-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-09-04-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-09-04-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 17:00 |
| slaweq_ | ok, we are out of time :) | 17:00 |
| slaweq_ | thx for attending | 17:00 |
| slaweq_ | and see You around o/ | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | slaweq_: maybe send a message to the ML canceling next week's meeting | 17:00 |
| slaweq_ | mlavalle: yes, I will | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | not that hordes of people are going to show up | 17:00 |
| slaweq_ | LOL | 17:01 |
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| * fungi peers around | 19:00 | |
| corvus | mrmph | 19:00 |
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| clarkb | anyone here for the infra meeting? I apparently need to finish rejoining channels after being kicked from them | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 4 19:01:31 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| AJaeger | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| ianw | o/ | 19:02 |
| clarkb | The PTG is less than a week a way. I know a good chunk of us will be there. I think we can go ahead and cancel next weeks Infra meeting as a result | 19:02 |
| clarkb | we'll be in the help room instead | 19:02 |
| fungi | we'll be in the helproom at that time, i guess (or at lunch) | 19:03 |
| corvus | or both | 19:03 |
| fungi | timezone conversion says we can help lunchishly at that time | 19:03 |
| corvus | i mean, i'm eating lunch now | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| pabelanger | o/ | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-08-28-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:04 |
| clarkb | Last week was actually a fairly "quiet" meeting overall. I think many of us were (and still are) heads down on the bridge.openstack.org migration | 19:05 |
| clarkb | May as well talk about that then. | 19:05 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:05 | |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:06 | |
| clarkb | The review topic of update-cfg-mgmt and puppet-4 continue to have changes that need review | 19:06 |
| clarkb | corvus has helped me get a set of changes up to manage clouds.yaml on nodepool nodes and on bridge.openstack.org. They are tested and I think passing tests now so we can probably take the plunge when ready | 19:07 |
| clarkb | this is a necessary pre step to running the cloud launcher playbook against our clouds again | 19:07 |
| corvus | i'll +3 after lunch^Wmeeting | 19:07 |
| Shrews | clarkb: i think i saw one fail (timeout) | 19:07 |
| * diablo_rojo sneaks in late | 19:07 | |
| clarkb | Shrews: darn ok, will have to take a look then | 19:07 |
| clarkb | Once those changes are in and happy I'll unwip my change to deploy the cloud launcher playbook on bridge.openstack.org | 19:08 |
| clarkb | at that point we should be in a good spot to add new clouds or cloud regions again (I had to manually run the launcher to set up the new vexxhost region) | 19:08 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: has also proposed a change to run our ansible with mitogen | 19:08 |
| corvus | it looks like we should be able to get the per-project ssh keys feature into zuul soon -- maybe we can land that this week and restart with it. then it'll be ready for us to experiment with zuul-driven CD at ptg. | 19:09 |
| corvus | pabelanger: are the timings from the test output useful with mitogen, or do you think we need to run it in production to see if it's effective? | 19:09 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/597297/ Adds mitogen to our ansible for hopeful performance improvements | 19:09 |
| clarkb | corvus: my hunch is we may need to see it in production since I think one of the ways it is helpful is mitigating network latencies | 19:10 |
| clarkb | corvus: the gains in a small localized test env may be minimal compared to our multicloud control plane | 19:11 |
| pabelanger | corvus: I think we need more hosts to see how it scales. I can try and look at tests in system-config to see if I can see any differences however | 19:11 |
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| fungi | mordred will probably be interested in the pbr entry on mitogen's importer wall of shame too | 19:11 |
| corvus | clarkb: we do have network latencies in the tests... | 19:11 |
| clarkb | corvus: we do but it si all in the same cloud region isn't it? | 19:11 |
| corvus | clarkb: yes -- much like our control plane | 19:11 |
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| clarkb | in any case I'm willing to try it in production. I do note that I don't think we can use python3.5 on xenial with mitogen which changes my thoughts on python3 migration for ansible somewhat (assuming we stick with mitogen) | 19:13 |
| corvus | i'm not eager to use mitogen. i think we have enough work cut out for us as it is, and i've heard mixed reports on its effectiveness. unless it's like two orders of magnitude better, i'd rather we just focus on the stuff in the spec3. | 19:14 |
| corvus | i'm not going to -2 it or anything, but i'd prefer not to +2 it either, and instead defer it until later. unless there's some reason we need to incorporate it now. | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | thats fair, the current cycle is about an hour long which isn't terrible | 19:15 |
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| corvus | clarkb: we should (have) increase(ed) the size of bridge and run with more forks | 19:15 |
| corvus | if speed is what we're after, let's start with the basics | 19:15 |
| corvus | we couldn't even run without ooming before, i don't know why (mitogen or no) we wouldn't run into the same problem this time. | 19:16 |
| pabelanger | yah, this was mostly to see if we could get better performance with current bridge.o.o, but also okay to skip to later | 19:16 |
| corvus | as a staw-man: i'm happy to click the button in the web ui to tell rax to embiggen the existing node | 19:17 |
| clarkb | corvus: we don't appear to have memory pressure issues on the new bridge (at least with the current number of forks) http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=65004&rra_id=all is the cacti info | 19:17 |
| corvus | clarkb: cool. then we should increase the number of forks until we do :) | 19:17 |
| clarkb | but that instance is quite small, not opposed to increasing the number of forks and then the ram if we hit the memory limits before the runtime improvements stop | 19:17 |
| fungi | i don't think node embiggening is a thing in rax any longer | 19:18 |
| fungi | at least not for pvhvm flavors | 19:18 |
| corvus | fungi: bummer | 19:19 |
| fungi | i'm checking now | 19:19 |
| clarkb | nova supports resizing at least | 19:19 |
| corvus | we *should* be able to launch a new bridge, but i don't know what we don't know about that. | 19:20 |
| clarkb | corvus: things like clouds.yaml definitely were (and technically still are) managed by hand | 19:20 |
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| clarkb | ianw: is the change to make ansible more non root friendly on bridge.o.o still outstanding? | 19:21 |
| clarkb | ianw: pabelanger is it worth talking about that here if so? might help reach an agreement? | 19:21 |
| fungi | #link https://support.rackspace.com/how-to/upgrading-resources-for-general-purpose-or-io-optimized-cloud-servers/ | 19:21 |
| fungi | tl;dr is you can add more disk and you can create a new bigger server | 19:21 |
| corvus | fungi: :( | 19:22 |
| ianw | clarkb: yep | 19:22 |
| ianw | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596630/ | 19:22 |
| fungi | oh, there's a thing at the bottom about "auto scale" | 19:22 |
| clarkb | ah looks like pabelanger +1'd it to not be a -1 | 19:23 |
| fungi | which seems to have something to do with load balancing | 19:23 |
| clarkb | I guess I just need to rereview it today then | 19:23 |
| corvus | fungi: i guess we could do all that. but it sounds like for now we can probably increase forks and kick the reprovisioning can down the road. | 19:23 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596630/ Change to make ansible on bridge.openstack.org useable as not root user | 19:23 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: yah, other eyes would be good there. Not going to block | 19:23 |
| corvus | ansible runs as root; zuul is going to run ansible as root.... is doing this worthwhile? | 19:24 |
| clarkb | corvus: I'm a fan of it as we often run ansible commands from puppetmaster (and now bridge) as not root | 19:25 |
| clarkb | we can su every time we want to run it I guess | 19:25 |
| fungi | the idea was for if we're still going to have humans running launch-node.py | 19:25 |
| corvus | clarkb: huh, i always did "sudo ansible" on puppetmaster | 19:25 |
| fungi | as the vast majority of the things the launch-node.py script covers doesn't need elevated privileges on the management bastion | 19:26 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya that was where I ran into it first on bridge.openstack.org | 19:26 |
| clarkb | I'm fine either way, forcing root will require some docs updates. Continuing to allow the admin group to run ansible commands requires ianw's change | 19:27 |
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| fungi | i mean, we were able to run launch-node.py previously by just being in the puppet group, and then later when we switched to using ansible for the cron we made the inventory admin-group-writeable so we still didn't need to sudo launch-node.py | 19:27 |
| fungi | up until a very recent change to get rid of the admin group | 19:28 |
| corvus | when i run ansible as corvus on puppetmaster it just hangs. dunno what it's doing. | 19:28 |
| clarkb | corvus: it may be generating an inventory for you if you've not done it before | 19:29 |
| fungi | so this was mainly a request to restore that property in a way that doesn't offend anyone's sensibilities (apparently the admin group existing rubs some folks the wrong way) | 19:29 |
| clarkb | I can't remember if it uses the global cache if run as a regularl user or not | 19:29 |
| ianw | hanging usually to me indicates the inventory, and probably that is root only at this point and it's going off doing ... something? | 19:29 |
| corvus | clarkb: that sounds like a fabulous reason to run it as root :) | 19:29 |
| pabelanger | I personally find shared history as root user a little confusing, but not a deal breaker | 19:30 |
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| pabelanger | that was the main bonus I liked about user with sudo | 19:30 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: we can still user + sudo in the current setup fwiw | 19:31 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: the proposed change allows user without sudo. | 19:31 |
| fungi | i just personally get especially uneasy when i'm running things as root or via sudo somewhere with as many sensitive contents as the management bastion | 19:31 |
| corvus | ansible cron runs as root, zuul will run ansible as root; if we make all the bits necessary to run ansible and launch-node read/writable to all of us -- is there really much of a point to that? | 19:31 |
| pabelanger | Right, that too. would need to check how I did launch-node.py in the past | 19:31 |
| corvus | fungi: i hear that -- everything about the bastion makes me uneasy :) | 19:32 |
| clarkb | ya I'm mostly wtih fungi. Many years of only using sudo/root when necesary | 19:32 |
| corvus | but is the proposed change actually safer? | 19:32 |
| fungi | if the idea is that zuul and/or the ansible cron will take over launching new servers for us, then i'll no longer be uneasy with the fact that i might typo a root-privileged command that needed almost no root access | 19:32 |
| clarkb | corvus: the ansible commands themselves shouldn't be, but if it helps keep us from just sudoing everything that doesn't immediately work then maybe? | 19:33 |
| clarkb | its mostly a discipline thing and not one we've had problems with ime | 19:33 |
| corvus | i guess what i'm saying is -- the change is really about making all the currently-root-needing things not need root. and there is nothing else on the server other than the root-needing things. | 19:33 |
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| clarkb | corvus: well the ansible stuff only needs root beacuse that is how we've set it up (the invocation side at least) | 19:34 |
| clarkb | but that is a bigger change to move invocation side off of root to only being root on the remote | 19:35 |
| fungi | i'm okay switching to using sudo if that's the plan going forward. we also had a rocky past with things like envvars not getting passed through to those scripts but i guess they're all being put in command-line options now so that shouldn't be as much of an issue | 19:35 |
| clarkb | (and effecitlvey gives you root on the invocation side if you choose so may be a noop) | 19:35 |
| corvus | clarkb: (it still needs to become_true on bridge itself to self-manage, but yes, agreed) | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | what is we decided to revert the admin removal change? Then things go back to just working. | 19:36 |
| pabelanger | if* | 19:36 |
| clarkb | maybe we can follow up after the meeting with ianw a bit more? we have 24 minutes of meeting allotment left and it would be good to move on to PTG things if we can | 19:36 |
| fungi | seems like the admin group was objectionable because it used to be a standard group on ubuntu and then they deprecated it in more recent releases | 19:36 |
| ianw | honestly if we're going to do it, i'd rather we have an "ansible" group to avoid confusion over this in the future. one group, one thing seems logical | 19:37 |
| fungi | and for whatever reason having a group named "admin" is a mistake | 19:37 |
| fungi | yeah, we used the "puppet" group for this in the past | 19:37 |
| pabelanger | right, that was my main suggestion just to rename root to sudo, we'd get the new admin group for bionic. | 19:37 |
| pabelanger | or even us adm | 19:38 |
| pabelanger | use* | 19:38 |
| corvus | in this particular instance, i'm unconvinced that an admin-like-group system is better. if someone feels strongly about it and wants to drive that, i'm not opposed. but it sounds like a time sink with little upside. especially if, at the end of the day, we're going to end up doing "sudo ansible ..." anyway. | 19:38 |
| fungi | i don't want to drag this out. if most of us have no objection to doing it all as root/via sudo i'll adapt | 19:39 |
| clarkb | corvus: I think the only thing we would want to do is update our docs (for launch node in particular) to reflect that change in process. But otherwise I agree I think we can move forward with forcing use of root | 19:39 |
| corvus | maybe i just need more convincing :) | 19:39 |
| clarkb | but ya lets move on so that we can go over ptg things really quickly | 19:39 |
| corvus | k | 19:39 |
| clarkb | and can pick this up again after in #openstack-infra if we want | 19:39 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:39 |
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| clarkb | The PTG is next week | 19:39 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-ptg-denver-2018 PTG planning document | 19:40 |
| clarkb | The PTG runs Monday to Friday. On Monday and Tuesday the infra team is aprt of the helproom at the PTG. I will be there helping people with infra related items as they come up | 19:40 |
| clarkb | if you are attending the PTG and have time Monday and Tuesday please join us | 19:41 |
| clarkb | Then Wednesday and Thursday we will have dedicated infra time in our own room | 19:41 |
| clarkb | Friday is a free day, but the openstack TC is having open meetings in the afternoon that people may be interested in | 19:41 |
| clarkb | I'm open to trying to do some sort of team activity on that day if others are interested (maybe we do breakfast off site so people can get back to the TC meetings) | 19:42 |
| clarkb | that is the high level overview, should be very similar in format to Dublin with exception of the snow storm | 19:42 |
| clarkb | Oh, team bier garten outing. Looking at a schedule of official ptg activities Monday night would be easiest. does that work? | 19:43 |
| fungi | so in other words, _nothing_ like dublin ;) | 19:43 |
| * fungi remembers the format for dublin was "blizzard" | 19:44 | |
| clarkb | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/fgry72wu42qw availability for biergarten outing. Monday would be best based on PTG event scheduling. Please let me know if that doesn't work | 19:44 |
| clarkb | I'll go ahead and pencil in Monday now and send details to the infra list later this week if I hear no objections | 19:44 |
| clarkb | That leaves us with working out an agenda. If you have things you want to work on at the PTG that are not already on the etherpad please add them | 19:45 |
| clarkb | I'm goign to try and categorize and organize them a bit so that when we show up wednesday we can peel them off of the list | 19:45 |
| corvus | i'm arriving on monday, so will join the help-room asap. bier monday sounds great. :) | 19:45 |
| corvus | so does tuesday. and wednesday. and thursday. | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | I won't be at the PTG this time around, but hope to participate remotely. | 19:46 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: we'll miss you | 19:46 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: re remote participation did you have a specific format in mind (eg a phone call with speakerphone on? or asterisk call from corvus' laptop? or?) | 19:46 |
| clarkb | might be good to sort that out before we all get on places | 19:47 |
| clarkb | *planes | 19:47 |
| corvus | yeah, i'm hoping that our work on the config mgmt stuff should mostly be writing a bunch of changes, so remote participation may be effective. | 19:47 |
| clarkb | corvus: ++ | 19:47 |
| pabelanger | yah, if people remember to log into asterisk, that would behelpful, but mostly going to be watching irc | 19:47 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: good to know, I'll try to make a point of treating irc as an extension of the room | 19:48 |
| pabelanger | yah, I'll keep an eye out for etherpad too | 19:49 |
| clarkb | One thing worth noting is that I think this is a good opportunity for us to get feedback on the winterscale effort from openstack and some of the newr projects. I hear that airship and starlingx will be there | 19:49 |
| clarkb | info on what sort of services various projects feel should be under the generic branding vs their own in particular. Will have to resurrect my etherpad strawman breakdown | 19:50 |
| clarkb | The helproom may also have a less openstack vibe to it. Unsure at this point but keep that in mind too | 19:50 |
| clarkb | Any other PTG questions, concerns, thoughts? | 19:51 |
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| fungi | we've had some people recently pop up on the ml and in irc wanting to contribute to the team. any idea if we have new infra-curious folks attending? | 19:52 |
| fungi | there always seem to be at least one or two | 19:53 |
| clarkb | fungi: I've not heard of any beyond the non openstack projects at the foundation being there and possibly going to use some of that time to work out infra related things | 19:53 |
| fungi | would be nice if those projects wanting to use our services also wanted to help maintain them | 19:54 |
| fungi | so maybe! | 19:54 |
| clarkb | indeed | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:55 | |
| clarkb | Alright anything else? | 19:55 |
| ianw | i just got notification on a ticket we have some more linaro resources in their london cloud | 19:55 |
| ianw | will look into that today. moving the builder there would probably work out well | 19:55 |
| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599270/ Switch unmodified readthedocs jobs to warning job | 19:56 |
| clarkb | ianw: neat, keep in mind that until clouds.yaml and cloud launcher stuff is automated on bridge.o.o some of the new region bring up is still manual (I manually ran cloud launcher against vexxhost sjc1 for example) | 19:56 |
| ianw | this adds a warning job for outstanding rtd publishers that aren't actually working. actually a lot of them are infra projects | 19:56 |
| ianw | if everyone could check their readthedocs login, and anything they own that is an infra project needs to have openstackci user added as an admin | 19:56 |
| fungi | reminder that the stein cycle signing key is up for switching into production too | 19:57 |
| ianw | i'm happy to help update the jobs, but can't do that until we have permission | 19:57 |
| clarkb | huh I don't think I've ever configured rtd for an infra project | 19:57 |
| ianw | clarkb: ++ thanks for reminding me on that | 19:57 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/599092 Replace the old Rocky cycle signing key with Stein | 19:57 |
| * AJaeger would appreciate some regular review on config repos. Especially clarkb and ianw help a lot - but more reactive. Could some of you regularly review, please? | 19:58 | |
| fungi | there's a process documentation update and corresponding releases site change under the same topic:artifact-signing | 19:58 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ++ that is a good reminder. I try when I have downtime to look at the open list in project-config but with everything else going on sometimes that doesn't happen | 19:58 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: if you find over beer some ideas next week on what to do, I would appreciate it (I won't be at PTG but booked tickets for Berlin ;) | 19:59 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: I hear they have beer in berlin too :) | 20:00 |
| clarkb | And we are at time. | 20:00 |
| clarkb | THanks everyone. See you back here in two weeks | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 4 20:00:24 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-09-04-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-09-04-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-09-04-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
| fungi | clarkb: i heard berlin mostly just has bier instead | 20:01 |
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| martial | FYI skipping the Scientific SIG today | 21:04 |
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