Wednesday, 2018-09-05

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mugsie#startmeeting designate11:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  5 11:03:42 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at
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mugsie#topic roll call11:03
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dimanmugsie: hi11:05
mugsiehey diman11:05
mugsieI think it may just be us :/11:06
mugsie#topic Open Discussion11:06
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mugsieFor the PTG, I didn't get us a dedicated room - most people on the team who will be there will be spread across different groups. we will be able to book rooms ad-hoc ss needed11:07
mugsieas needed*11:07
dimanwell, I'm afraid I cannot make it to ptg...11:07
mugsiediman: yeah, a lot of the designate contributors can't11:08
dimanmugsie: wanted to ask regarding
dimanseems like gate job fail here and there11:08
dimanwith something like gzip: /home/zuul/workspace/logs/ara: No such file or directory etc11:09
mugsieoh, that just got fixed11:09
mugsie(there was a bad update to ara)11:10
dimanah, alright, will do recheck than11:10
mugsiei need to test somethign in today as well11:11
dimanmugsie: do you have any feedback about
mugsieit looks good, I just want to test the format of the notifies it sends11:11
dimanok, can attach my tcpdump, but we already run this in production :)11:13
mugsieah, OK :)11:13
mugsieyeah, I am not sure how we can add an actual test for this :/11:13
mugsieI would like to have a test to make sure we actually send it as we do more development11:14
dimanyes, extra test is always a good idea)11:14
dimanI'll double-check why did test failed at
dimanbecause the same tests in our ci succeed11:17
mugsieoh? even the unit tests?11:18
mugsiethey should be self contained :/11:18
dimanmugsie: but, if you happen to have any feedback, let me know so I'll fix this sooner :)11:18
dimanyes, those 3 unit tests11:18
mugsieOK, i will look today11:19
dimanmugsie: thanks)11:19
* mugsie finally has a decent dev env in the office to actually run these tests11:19
dimanmugsie: are you coming to summit in Berlin btw?11:19
mugsieI am11:19
mugsieit is a short trip from me11:20
mugsiethough not as short as yours :)11:20
diman15 mins drive, kkk :)11:20
mugsieany other topics?11:22
dimanI guess, no. I'll write a tempest test for last PR if gate finally gets green :)11:23
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mugsiegreat :)11:24
mugsieOK, have a great day11:24
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dimanmugsie: you too!11:25
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jungleboyj#startmeeting Cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  5 16:00:48 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at
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geguileohi! o/16:01
jungleboyjI just realized that I had been kicked out of channels for a couple days now.16:01
smcginnisjungleboyj: Welcome back. ;)16:02
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jungleboyjThanks.  Desk is set up and I am trying to get settled in.16:02
jungleboyjOk.  Lets get started.16:03
jungleboyj#topic announcements16:03
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jungleboyjNot a lot to announce.16:03
jungleboyjThe usual note about the PTG planning etherpad:
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jungleboyjHave a good list of topics there.  I will work tomorrow on trying to schedule times for the discussion.16:05
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smcginnisReally good list.16:06
jungleboyjShould the Placement discussion be during the Nova cross project discussion or just something for Cinder and we pull cdent jaypipes and efried in?16:06
smcginnisIf we can fit it in before the cross project session, and those folks are available, that might be useful.16:06
e0nesmcginnis: +116:06
erlonjungleboyj, I thought we should do a pre discussion before16:07
efriedfor sake of our schedules, might be better during cross-project16:07
efriedis there a consideration of doing it M/T?16:07
jungleboyjM/T ?16:07
efriedMonday or Tuesday16:07
efriedas opposed to when you know the Nova folks are going to be glued to the Nova room.16:07
jungleboyjefried:  Oh.  :-)16:08
geguileoerlon: a pre discussion would be good, to see what we think the benefits are or could be in the future16:08
erlonIt would be good to  line up things before putting it to a more broad audience16:08
jungleboyjgeguileo: erlon  Yeah, we definitely want to have it as a Cinder only discussion for some period of time.16:08
smcginnisAre folks around Tuesday that we could try to pull something together before the project vertical stuff starts?16:09
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geguileoI'll be around16:09
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  I will be around.16:10
jungleboyjgeguileo: and e0ne ?16:10
erlonsmcginnis, from the list of attendees, most people will be since from Monday16:10
e0neMonday will be better for me16:10
jungleboyjLooks like it.16:10
e0neI'll have a lot of horizon-specific things on Tuesday16:10
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smcginniserlon: Yeah, the question is if they will actually be available. Monday is already crazy for me. I can probably make Tuesday, but we can try to find a time that works best for everyone.16:11
jungleboyjWould have to be Monday afternoon for me as I am flying in Monday morning.16:11
erlonsmcginnis, hmm, got it16:11
smcginnisjungleboyj: Maybe get a schedule poll to see what times work the best overall for placement folks and interested Cinder folks?16:11
smcginnisIt's a crazy week. ;)16:12
efriedI know cdent is unavailable Monday16:12
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Ok, I will put that together and send out an e-mail to the mailing list.16:12
efriedAnd we have a different cross-projecty thing (placement/blazar) scheduled for Tuesday at 10am16:12
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jungleboyjDoes anyone have a link to how you reserve another room on Monday/Tuesday?16:14
jungleboyjIf not I will try to find it.16:15
smcginnisNot sure how far ahead you can do that. It's through the ptgbot.16:15
jungleboyjOh ... Wah Wah Wah.16:15
smcginnisLooks like maybe you can already?16:15
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Ok, I will play with it.16:16
jungleboyjAnything more on PTG planning?16:17
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jungleboyjOk, moving on.16:18
jungleboyjI assume everyone saw that Rocky was officially released.  Thank you to everyone who participated and helped make the release happen.16:19
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_pewp_jungleboyj ( *՞ਊ՞*)ノ16:19
jungleboyjThat is really all I had for today.16:19
jungleboyj#topic Open Discussion16:19
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smcginnisSkipping some things?16:20
geguileojungleboyj: mmmm I did have a couple of topics on the agenda...16:20
gansoI have one too (for open discussion)16:20
jungleboyjOh, that is where the Agenda went.16:21
jungleboyjI thought I had set up the Agenda at the end of the last meeting and didn't realize it got moved to a Stein etherpad.16:21
jungleboyjSorry, been lost in moving the last week.16:21
jungleboyj#topic Berlin Forum Sessions16:21
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geguileoMaybe we should start creating an etherpad for this and brainstorm ideas for it?16:22
jungleboyjgeguileo: Not a bad idea.16:23
jungleboyjPerhpas a topic we can have for the PTG?16:23
jungleboyjStart creating that.16:23
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smcginnisIt's coming up quick.16:23
smcginnisMight be nice to have something started at least so we can add things during the PTG that we know we will need to follow up on.16:23
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geguileosmcginnis: +116:24
erlonsmcginnis, +116:24
e0nesmcginnis: +116:24
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  ++16:24
jungleboyjgeguileo:  Thanks for bringing that up.  Good idea.16:25
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jungleboyjAnything else on that topic?16:26
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jungleboyj#action jungleboyj to add a reminder to the PTG etherpad to do this.16:27
jungleboyj#topic Cinderlib functional tests at the gate16:27
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geguileoIn a previous meeting:
geguileowe said people would start having a look into cinderlib and I would start looking at adding it to some of our jobs16:28
geguileoin the least obstrussive way16:28
geguileonon voting, and not consuming much time on the gate16:29
* jungleboyj vaguely remembers that.16:29
geguileoYeah, it has been a while since that16:29
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geguileoSo I would like to bring it up on the meeting to see how people felt16:29
geguileoThe idea is that some jobs (ie: LVM and Ceph) would clone cinderlib16:30
geguileoand run its functional tests16:30
smcginnisJust for the record, I'm still opposed to it.16:30
geguileothey take less than a minute to run on an already deployed system16:30
e0neI still doesn't understand a value of it without scheduler and manager16:30
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  To Cinderlib or to running its tests?16:30
geguileosmcginnis: your opposition is against the idea of cinderlib or something else?16:30
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e0neat least, volume manager does a lot of thing before ad after calling drivers16:31
smcginnisjungleboyj: cinderlib and our making it semi-"official" by running gate tests with it.16:31
jungleboyjOk ...16:31
geguileosmcginnis: so you would be against making it official then?16:31
geguileothen I guess that is a bigger topic, and probably better discussed during the PTG16:33
jungleboyjgeguileo: ++16:33
e0negeguileo: why not to try use api-scheduler-volume with in-memory queue or something else instead of rabbitmq?16:33
jungleboyjWe touched on that issue at the Forum I think but need to get all of us in the same room to discuss it sounds like.16:33
e0negeguileo: +1, it would be good to discuss it at the PTG16:33
geguileoe0ne: that would mean actually running the full Cinder service16:34
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geguileoe0ne: which isn't so great for other things like ansible, a CSI plugin, custom applications...16:34
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jungleboyjI have very mixed feelings about this.  Can see the benefits but also have concerns.16:35
geguileojungleboyj: smcginnis any chance you could air your biggest concerns now?16:36
jungleboyjMy concern is the lack of control over what other consumers could do with cinderlib.16:37
e0negeguileo: honestly, it doesn't use cinder. it uses only cinder drivers and few more things16:37
smcginnisThere was another meeting that wasn't linked to where we talked about this and I did. But basically I don't think cinderlib is the right approach and is exposing our driver interface and making an internal thing public.16:37
e0nesmcginnis: +116:37
smcginnisAnd containerizing cinder is easier and safer than extracting bits and pieces.16:37
geguileoOK, I remember that discussion and I think I presented some counter arguments, but we can discuss it more at the PTG16:39
erlongeguileo, I think that if we could have more use cases and pratical examples would help to make it have more sense16:39
geguileoerlon: custom applications, ansible, Ember-CSI, ovirt...16:39
erlonmy first reaction and still, is that it is something nice to have16:39
erlonbut, I still couldnt thing in the real scenarios16:40
jungleboyjerlon:  ++16:40
jungleboyj#chari smcginnis16:40
jungleboyj#chair smcginnis16:40
openstackCurrent chairs: jungleboyj smcginnis16:40
geguileoI think we can leave the topic until the PTG16:41
jungleboyjJust had some people show up to work on the house so I will be in and out a bit.16:41
smcginnisI've been drafted!! :D16:41
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Yep.  So I can make sure they don't drop the hot tub through the roof.16:41
jungleboyjSo, I think we are in agreement to discuss this more at the PTG?16:41
smcginnisOK, I think we've probably gotten as far as we can today. Let's talk at the PTG.16:41
erlonjungleboyj, +116:42
smcginnisgeguileo: I haven't checked, but can you make sure it's on the planning etherpad?16:42
geguileosmcginnis: it is, but I'll add as the first sub-topic this discussion16:42
smcginnisgeguileo: Thanks16:42
smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:43
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smcginnise0ne: Did you say you had something for now?16:43
e0nesmcginnis: no, it was jungleboyj16:43
gansoI have16:43
smcginnisganso: OK, go ahead.16:43
gansodoes everybody agree we can move forward with and ?16:44
jungleboyjgeguileo:  Thanks for adding it to the etherpad.16:45
e0neganso: it makes sense16:45
smcginnisLooks like the work was done on the cinder side. Need a show of support on those other patches?16:45
smcginnisganso: What is the tempest job failure about?16:46
e0neganso: this one  has -1 from CI :(16:46
gansocinder side is ready. We've agreed last release to enable the online extend test to be able to see which backends report that they support (by default) but they actually don't16:46
erlonsmcginnis, e0ne, I think that is something not related to the patch16:46
erlonhave rechecked it, lets see if pass16:47
gansoe0ne: yea I may need to recheck that, possibly was a random failure16:47
erlonlogs are gone :(16:47
e0neerlon, smcginnis: there are no logs already :(16:47
smcginnisI think probably should not happen. The only safe default is LVM, and if other backend the user can override TEMPEST_EXTEND_ATTACHED_VOLUME.16:47
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gansosmcginnis: do you think it shouldn't happen because it will break LVM?16:48
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  That makes sense.16:48
e0nesmcginnis: good catch16:48
erlonsmcginnis, the idea there was to broadly test attached_extend support on other backends16:49
smcginnisNo, existing code it checks that it is using LVM and libvirt.16:49
erlonwhich currently are not tested16:49
gansoI am not sure I follow16:49
smcginnisI suppose this does make third party CI automatically start testing this unless they explicitly disable the new config options, but they can also do that with TEMPEST_EXTEND_ATTACHED_VOLUME.16:49
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erlonsmcginnis, yes, that is the point, if they fail the tests, they will have the ability to disable16:50
smcginnisganso: It already tests extend_attached if LVM is the backend and libvirt is being used.16:50
gansosmcginnis: I'm assuming we want to start testing this automatically for 3rd party CI16:50
erlonbut currently, people not even know if that really works16:50
smcginniserlon: Will they know after this when third party CIs just disable the test?16:51
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erlonsmcginnis, yes, the operators will have the option to just disable the test or go and fix it16:52
gansosmcginnis: if their CI start failing after that patch lands they just have to disable the test or fix their reporting capabilities (which is the ideal fix) and all is fine16:52
jungleboyjSeems like that is likely to just cause issues.16:52
jungleboyjSeems like we should start by having them explicitly enable it and then re-address after we do or don't see people start enabling it.16:53
smcginnisSo if they are using devstack, they can just set TEMPEST_EXTEND_ATTACHED_VOLUME=False, but if they are just running tempest against a full deployment to test their own stack then the operator can set the config option.16:53
erlonjungleboyj, you mean 'show issues' :)16:53
jungleboyjerlon:  Maybe.16:53
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smcginnisIs my last summary right? ^^16:53
gansosmcginnis: yes16:54
gansosmcginnis: what you said is addressed here
smcginnisSo the second patch doesn't really make any difference for third party CI, just for someone just running it themselves.16:54
gansosmcginnis: no, it does. The test does not run automatically today16:55
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gansosmcginnis: the 2nd patch makes it run automatically16:55
* ganso hopes is not confusing the 1st with the 2nd16:55
smcginnisganso: Actually, the second patch defaults it to false, so the first patch makes it run automatically, but then the introduction of the additional config option disables it, right?16:56
smcginnisMaybe I have the order of patches confused.16:56
gansolol yea I was referring the 1st one as the tempest one that adds the config option, and the 2nd one would be the devstack one16:56
smcginnisganso: OK, thanks. I think I've got it now.16:57
smcginnis* <3 minutes left16:57
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smcginnisShouldn't depends-on ?16:58
jungleboyjDown to 2 minutes.16:59
smcginnisWe can probably wrap.16:59
gansosmcginnis: no, they are not handled by the same config option16:59
* erlon is lost16:59
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Are your questions answered or do we need to work this offline?16:59
gansosmcginnis: one is "extend_attached_volume_support", which relates to the new capabilities16:59
gansosmcginnis: the other is "extend_attached_volume" which dictates if the tests should be run17:00
gansoso they are independent17:00
jungleboyjAnd that is time.17:00
jungleboyjLets wrap up the discussion in the channel.17:00
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erlonbotton line is, We have a feature that drivers thing they support while some might not do so. The question is, should we cause those to fail and point the errors?17:00
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smcginnisI'm lost now too, but we can figure it out later.17:00
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jungleboyjerlon:  You are at the PTG?17:01
erlonjungleboyj, yes17:01
jungleboyjerlon:  Add it to the schedule.17:01
erlonIll add this to the topis17:01
jungleboyjerlon: Thank you!17:01
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* fungi looks around19:00
SotKanyone around for a storyboard meeting?19:00
SotK#startmeeting storyboard19:01
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SotK#link Agenda19:01
SotK#topic Announcements19:01
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SotKsearchlight and freezer this time19:02
fungiyep, those happened19:02
fungialso slogging19:02
fungiand apparently we've learned that patrole moved to storyboard.o.o months ago but never let anyone know they needed bugs migrated19:03
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SotKheh, I'm glad that things are continuing apace19:04
SotK#topic Migration Updates19:05
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SotKanything to update diablo_rojo?19:05
diablo_rojoNothing new besides those two that migrated last week19:06
diablo_rojoOh, and it looks like there is a QA subproject migrating soon19:06
diablo_rojoThat's about all I have there.19:07
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diablo_rojoYep thats the one19:09
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SotKcool, hopefully others start moving a bit post-ptg19:12
SotK#topic PTG19:12
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SotK#link PTG Etherpad19:13
diablo_rojoYeah I think we will have some more interest after19:13
diablo_rojoI started adding topic there19:13
diablo_rojoFeel free to add19:13
diablo_rojoAnd I will also schedule us for Tuesday afternoon via ptg bot.19:13
SotKthanks :)19:14
SotKI will try to consider things to add to the list19:14
diablo_rojoI won't be able to start us until 20:00 UTC19:15
diablo_rojoWill that still work for you SotK ?19:15
SotKyeah that'll be fine19:15
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diablo_rojoI have to cover the team photos for a half hour after lunch but then I'll be able to kick things off19:16
diablo_rojoOne other PTG thing.19:16
SotKsounds good19:16
diablo_rojoPeople want a tutorial during lunch.19:16
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diablo_rojoAny things I should cover besides like making boards, worklists (regular & automatic), stories & tasks.19:17
diablo_rojoI feel like there is a lot of stuff I could cover but I don't want to bore people for 10 minutes19:17
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fungiyeah, i would keep to the basics19:18
SotKme too, that sounds like a good list19:19
fungiwith prominent repetitive mention of the documentation19:19
SotKmaybe some using boards/worklists (ie showing the manual ordering for regular ones) too19:19
diablo_rojofungi, you wanna narrate while I do things? Or vice versa? I can probably do it alone, but I dunno what the setup will be if I'll have to hold a mike while computering...thats not so easy19:19
diablo_rojofungi, yeah thats a good idea19:19
fungihappy to narrate if you have a basic outline of what you plan to do in what order19:20
diablo_rojofungi, I can put one together today/tomorrow and we can go over it Sunday morning or something?19:20
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fungiwfm, i've got no real plans before the tc stuff sunday afternoon19:20
diablo_rojoCool, thats what I was banking on :)19:22
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SotKany other ptg stuff?19:23
diablo_rojoDon't think so19:23
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diablo_rojoTiming, etherpad and lunch things were all I had19:23
SotKI assume there will be a hangout link nearer the time?19:23
diablo_rojoSotK, yeah. I can probably generate one ahead of time, just havent gotten around to it yet19:24
diablo_rojoAlso reminds me to put speaker/mic on my packing list19:24
SotK:D please do19:24
SotKbut there is no rush for a link, obviously19:24
SotK#topic In Progress Work19:25
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SotKI reviewed your patch diablo_rojo, and also fatema's api patch19:26
diablo_rojoSotK, awesome19:26
SotKI'm afraid I noticed more spots where we use the name that I didn't notice earlier19:26
diablo_rojoYeah I saw comments, haven't gotten around to updating yet.19:26
SotKgood :)19:26
diablo_rojoHopefully will by the end of the week19:26
diablo_rojoNo worries :) I appreciate the comments19:27
SotKI think the project groups by name patches are all ready for review now19:27
diablo_rojoSotK, excellent19:28
* diablo_rojo adds to review list19:28
SotKalso, it'd be good if someone could +A please :)19:28
diablo_rojofungi, ^^19:28
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fungiyep, those seem to be worky19:30
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SotK is a tiny patch to fix something that I didn't notice in the UI patches we've merged so far where comments are all ugly and grey now19:31
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fungi!/story/1759730 looks good19:33
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SotKI'm hopeful that by PTG I'll have a patch for alleviating the "rendering 1000 comments at once is bad" bug too, I was just feeling more creative than annoying-bugfixy this weekend19:34
* diablo_rojo looks19:34
SotKthanks :)19:35
diablo_rojoSotK, we appreciate all of what you do :) Creative & bug-fixy alike.19:36
SotKif anyone fancies making comment on the direction that this WIP story detail layout patch is going I'd welcome it, but its not really priority atm:
SotKheh, I'm glad19:36
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* diablo_rojo opens 59919419:38
SotKanything else in progress?19:39
diablo_rojoSo for some weird reason I am currently unable to view logs..19:39
diablo_rojoI updated my browser and cleared my cache and nada19:39
* diablo_rojo will have to look into that later19:39
SotKyou might need to accept the cert on
SotKI have to do it semi-regularly I find19:40
diablo_rojoAh yep that did it- I've never hit that before.19:40
SotKgood :)19:41
SotK#topic Open Discussion19:41
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diablo_rojoooOOoo I like the tags in the new view19:41
diablo_rojolooks like some of the events formatting is a tad screwwy, but I like it overall.19:42
fungii'm trying to calculate "launchpad doomsday" (when our story 2000000 will collide with a bug 2000000 in lp)19:42
SotKyeah, the events are still a bit WIP19:42
fungitrending the last 100k bugs or so to see what the current rate of growth is19:42
fungiwe're about 200k away from collision19:42
clarkbthere is a realtively not terrible hack we could do should we hit doomsday. Add a trailing zero to all existing bugs, rewrite old numbers to new number and hand wave around where they collide (you have to use new url)19:46
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diablo_rojoNew urls might be painful, but a necessary evil I guess19:48
SotKthat would work, except annoying for pre-doomsday links in gerrit19:48
SotKI don't have any better ideas though19:48
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clarkboh Ieant do redirects for old numbers19:51
clarkbthat will onlu break where they collide19:51
SotKoh I see19:51
SotKyeah that makes sense19:51
diablo_rojoOh okay thats less painful19:51
fungilately bugs have been added to lp at a rate of roughly one every 416 seconds19:52
fungiwhich is far slower than i anticipated19:52
fungiunless my math is off (i need to double-check my figures) that gives us until the middle of 202119:53
diablo_rojoWonder what that says about the quality of OpenStack? compared to other projects?19:53
diablo_rojoOh cool, 2021 is aways away19:54
SotKyour maths matches my rough estimate19:54
fungiwell, in spot-checking bug creation dates, i also noticed that many if not a mahority of the bugs being opened on lp are for openstack projects19:54
fungiso in theory the rate of bug accumulation on lp might slow noticeably as we move more projects to sb.o.o19:55
diablo_rojoThat's kind of what I guessed, but I am glad we have actual data to kind of back it up19:55
fungithe potential slowing for lp is based solely on anecdata19:56
fungibut at least we seem to have more breathing room than i was worried we might19:57
SotKyeah, 2021 feels like a decent amount of space19:57
* diablo_rojo was thinking months-ish19:58
SotKok we're about out of time19:59
SotKcatch us in #storyboard :)19:59
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diablo_rojoThanks SotK!20:00
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notmyname#startmeeting swift21:00
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notmynamewho's here for the swift team meeting21:00
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rledisezhi o/21:01
notmynamegood evening rledisez21:01
rledisezgood evening to you :)21:01
rledisezwell, good afternoon for you i guess21:01
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notmynamemattoliverau is out this week, of course. I haven't seen kota_. not sure what clayg and timburke and tdasilva are up to21:02
notmynameoh hi kota_!21:02
notmynamegood morning21:02
kota_just waking up21:02
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notmynamenext week is the ptg, so I wanted to make sure everyone is feeling ok about it21:03
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notmynamethe etherpad still feels a little limited to me. however, the attendance list is pretty short too21:04
notmynamerledisez: kota_: do either of you have any questions or concerns about next week?21:05
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kota_when you guys get in to denver?21:06
rlediseznotmyname: not for now21:06
notmynameI get there on sunday21:06
rledisezkota_: me and alecuyer will land tuesday afternoon21:06
notmynameah, ok21:06
kota_I'll be since sunday afternoon21:06
tdasilvai'll be there on Monday morning21:06
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kota_ok, thanks! I'll be able to find you around days ;)21:07
notmynameis there any topic that you'd like to talk about that isn't written in the etherpad yet?21:08
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zaitcevWhat Etherpad?21:09
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tdasilvait would be cool to discuss maybe review PUT+POST21:09
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zaitcevI didn't touch it in a while, but officially it's ready.21:10
notmynametimburke: zaitcev: we're just talking about the ptg topics. making sure we're feeling ok with what's written down to talk about and we're all ready21:10
tdasilvazaitcev: are you going to the PTG?21:11
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notmynametdasilva: yeah, I think with the smaller group, we may be able to have some productive group review time21:11
zaitcevtdasilva: I should be there, yes.21:11
notmynametimburke: do you think we should put the multi-keymaster stuff on there?21:13
timburke*shrug* it's low-priority for me. sounds like having me focus on s3 and py3 would be a better use of time21:15
notmynameI wrote it down so we can explicitly ignore it if we choose to :-)21:16
notmynamewho asked about proxyfs status?21:16
zaitcevI did.21:17
notmynameok, cool21:17
zaitcevnotmyname: I'm just curious.21:17
notmynameyeah, I think we could say a little about it21:17
notmynameok, I don't want to keep this meeting going longer than needed21:18
notmynameis there anything else we need to discuss about the ptg (other than "update the etherpad")?21:18
notmynameany specific questions?21:18
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notmynameI'm sure we'll all end up spending a lot of time together like normal, but we should try to do an "official" dinner together later in the week when everyone is there21:19
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notmynameI don't see any more ptg questions21:20
notmynameis there anything else we need to bring up this week in the meeting? something you'd like answered or help with before we see each other next week?21:20
notmynameI'll take the silence as a no :-)21:22
zaitcevLooks like no.21:22
notmynamethanks for coming to the meeting this week21:22
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notmynameI'm looking forward to seeing you in denver next week21:22
notmynamethank you for your work on swift21:22
kota_me too!21:22
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