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| diablo_rojo | #startmeeting fc_sig | 07:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 7 07:01:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is diablo_rojo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fc_sig' | 07:01 |
| mattoliverau | oh or we can run it through quickly here :) | 07:01 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 07:01 |
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| diablo_rojo | Yeah thinking super expedited meeting. | 07:01 |
| mattoliverau | kk | 07:01 |
| * diablo_rojo wants to get back to diablo III and we will mostly all be there next week | 07:02 | |
| diablo_rojo | Except you mattoliverau :( | 07:02 |
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| diablo_rojo | gmann, cmurphy around? | 07:02 |
| mattoliverau | yeah :( | 07:02 |
| diablo_rojo | #topic Guide for Contributing Organisations | 07:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Guide for Contributing Organisations (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:03 | |
| * diablo_rojo skips homework section since she's sure we mostly have all been focused on summit prep | 07:03 | |
| mattoliverau | but honeslty newborns are hard and the toddler is a monster.. I wish I could come just to get away.. but yeah the wife needs me here.. its kinda crazy hecktic | 07:03 |
| mattoliverau | I've checked ask.o.o, nothing new. | 07:04 |
| diablo_rojo | No grandparents around that could take the toddler so the wife and baby could have some alone time while you disappear for a week? | 07:04 |
| diablo_rojo | cool | 07:04 |
| diablo_rojo | So, you pushed a new patch | 07:04 |
| mattoliverau | nope there away :( | 07:04 |
| mattoliverau | both sets | 07:04 |
| mattoliverau | worst week for it ever. | 07:04 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Meeting_Agenda Agenda that I didn't link to before.. | 07:04 |
| mattoliverau | a week or so later would have been fine | 07:04 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578676/ Matt's patch | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | anyway, yeah the patch | 07:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Well hopefully we will see you in Denver? | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | I had a go at addressing all the comments and added some more meat to the non-technical section. | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, so long as SUSE sends me. Cause I really want to be thre! | 07:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Looks like there are already comments, but I am tempted to get this merged and then upload a patchset for it. | 07:06 |
| diablo_rojo | mattoliverau, let me know if I can help at all. Happy to help write abstracts and put you as the presenter ;) | 07:06 |
| mattoliverau | ;) | 07:06 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, there are some really good comments. so maybe we can merge as is. I'll start a follow up to address the others. So we can continue to improve | 07:06 |
| diablo_rojo | If I go ahead and merge this now, think you can have a new patchset up by EOD tomorrowish? | 07:07 |
| mattoliverau | note though, that to land it and to pass the tests, it needs to have a link from the main page (or from somewhere) so atm when it lands it'll be live, not hidden behind having to know the url | 07:07 |
| mattoliverau | yeah sure. | 07:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh right, we can link it from the main index of ops guide, code & docs and non code guides I think | 07:08 |
| mattoliverau | I don't think having it live is really an issue. just wanted to make sure it was pointed out, in case others thought it wouldn't be. | 07:08 |
| diablo_rojo | we can do that in the follow up too. | 07:08 |
| mattoliverau | by live i mean, there will be a link to it somewhere. | 07:08 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah its good to note. | 07:09 |
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| diablo_rojo | If we can get the new patchset up and have a link to this from that main list of contrib guides I am find with merging it now I think | 07:09 |
| diablo_rojo | new patch | 07:09 |
| diablo_rojo | not patchset I mean | 07:09 |
| mattoliverau | it currently linked form somewhere.. to pass tests. | 07:10 |
| mattoliverau | or so it would build | 07:10 |
| mattoliverau | or whatever was the blocker, can't remember. Let me go check where it is. | 07:10 |
| diablo_rojo | Looks like you added it to the main index | 07:10 |
| diablo_rojo | which seems fine to me. | 07:11 |
| mattoliverau | yeah | 07:11 |
| mattoliverau | cool | 07:11 |
| diablo_rojo | I might put it above the contributing/index in the new patchset but I think this place makes the most logical sense | 07:11 |
| diablo_rojo | since its not specific to any specific type of contribution | 07:11 |
| mattoliverau | oh yeah good thought | 07:11 |
| diablo_rojo | Okay so I will go ahead and +2 +W with a comment saying you'll have a new patch up tomorrow with fixes? | 07:12 |
| diablo_rojo | Sound alright mattoliverau? | 07:12 |
| mattoliverau | make a comment about it on the change | 07:12 |
| mattoliverau | yup, dooo iiiit | 07:12 |
| mattoliverau | no one else if here to stop us and you already have one from dhellmann ;) | 07:13 |
| diablo_rojo | Donezo | 07:14 |
| diablo_rojo | So! | 07:14 |
| mattoliverau | #action mattoliverau to create a follow up patch addressing the current comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578676/ | 07:14 |
| diablo_rojo | Beat me to it :) | 07:14 |
| mattoliverau | ;) | 07:14 |
| diablo_rojo | Okay moving on! | 07:14 |
| diablo_rojo | #topic First Contact SIG Goes to Berlin | 07:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "First Contact SIG Goes to Berlin (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:14 | |
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| diablo_rojo | Just reminders of relevant sessions | 07:15 |
| mattoliverau | Anything I can help prep here, even if I wont be there? | 07:15 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/22888/first-contact-sig-q-and-a-meet-and-greet Meet & Greet | 07:15 |
| mattoliverau | ahh good idea | 07:15 |
| diablo_rojo | ummmmm not that I can think of really, but I can start a hangout or something if you want to join the contrib guide & contrib portal sessions | 07:16 |
| diablo_rojo | Meet and greet too actually | 07:16 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/22838/making-the-contributor-portal-more-useful Making the Contributor Portal More Useful | 07:16 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/22726/the-contributor-guide-ops-feedback-session Contrib Guide Ops Feedback | 07:16 |
| mattoliverau | cool, I'll try and figure out the time difference and let you know if it's possible :) | 07:16 |
| diablo_rojo | sounds good :) | 07:17 |
| diablo_rojo | The meet and greet one would be fun | 07:17 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, a remote matt, we need one of the robots | 07:17 |
| diablo_rojo | I would bring you starbucks but I don't think it will pass through the internets well enough | 07:17 |
| mattoliverau | *those | 07:17 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 07:17 |
| diablo_rojo | Like the uber people | 07:17 |
| diablo_rojo | like uber ride share but people holding tablet with other peoples faces | 07:18 |
| diablo_rojo | or smth | 07:18 |
| mattoliverau | lol exactly | 07:18 |
| diablo_rojo | Anywho, for those reading logs, we would love to see you at any/all of those sessions! | 07:18 |
| diablo_rojo | Anything else on this topic? | 07:18 |
| mattoliverau | tonyb: thats you ;) | 07:19 |
| mattoliverau | :P | 07:19 |
| mattoliverau | nope | 07:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Lol | 07:19 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, too | 07:19 |
| * diablo_rojo waves to fungi | 07:19 | |
| * diablo_rojo waves to tonyb | 07:19 | |
| diablo_rojo | Okay | 07:19 |
| diablo_rojo | #topic Open Discussion | 07:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:19 | |
| mattoliverau | I got nothing else I can think off | 07:20 |
| diablo_rojo | I'll leave it open for a few minutes to see if anyone else drops by with anything to discuss | 07:20 |
| mattoliverau | of | 07:20 |
| diablo_rojo | But yeah, I got nothing else | 07:20 |
| mattoliverau | apparently I can't type or use english anymore.. if what you'd call what I use english :P | 07:20 |
| mattoliverau | cools, then you get an early mark to go back to your game^Cbed | 07:21 |
| diablo_rojo | I've never been good at English either really | 07:21 |
| diablo_rojo | typing is hard too | 07:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Game for a little bit, bed soon :) | 07:21 |
| mattoliverau | nice :) | 07:22 |
| mattoliverau | I'll go save the wife from the monsters then | 07:22 |
| diablo_rojo | Still have early morning meeting tomorrow | 07:22 |
| mattoliverau | :( sorry, thanks again for taking this meeting time bullet! | 07:22 |
| mattoliverau | Anyway, we can end the meeting then, night | 07:24 |
| diablo_rojo | Sounds good to me. | 07:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Have a good evening with the kiddos :) Need more pictures of the baby at some point :P | 07:25 |
| mattoliverau | oh yeah.sorry, I'll get on that :) | 07:26 |
| diablo_rojo | #endmeeting | 07:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 07:26 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 7 07:26:52 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-11-07-07.01.html | 07:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-11-07-07.01.txt | 07:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-11-07-07.01.log.html | 07:26 |
| diablo_rojo | Its in the meeting logs now mattoliverau ;) | 07:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Written in stone | 07:27 |
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| oneswig | I propose no Scientific SIG meeting today. The Summit is closing in and I think everyone is busy preparing for it / travelling to it. | 11:01 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 7 16:00:48 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| yikun | hello | 16:00 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Courtesy ping: jungleboyj diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon tpsilva ganso patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh felipemonteiro lpetrut lseki _alastor_ whoami-rajat yikun rosmaita | 16:01 |
| walshh_ | hi | 16:01 |
| e0ne | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-stein-meetings | 16:01 |
| rajinir | o/ | 16:01 |
| rosmaita | looks like etherpad problems again, at least for me | 16:01 |
| enriquetaso | o/ | 16:01 |
| e0ne | rosmaita: it works for me now | 16:02 |
| enriquetaso | rosmaita: it works for me too | 16:02 |
| rosmaita | helps to have the correct url! | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: :-) The Wiki should be updated though. | 16:02 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:03 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (;-_-)ノ | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | Ugh .... | 16:03 |
| * jungleboyj left my coffee upstairs. | 16:03 | |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: does it mean that we'll have a short meeting? | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Short meeting would be good. But I now have my coffee as well. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, lets get started. | 16:04 |
| * jungleboyj gets back under my blanket first. | 16:05 | |
| jungleboyj | #topic announcements | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:05 | |
| jungleboyj | So, at least rosmaita noticed this. | 16:05 |
| rosmaita | :) | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | The previous Stein agenda etherpad was corrupted during last week's meeting. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | So, I have created a new one. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-stein-meetings | 16:06 |
| xyang | hi | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | The old content isn't pretty but should all be there. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:06 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (*ï¾ŸÍ âˆ€ Í )ﾉ | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | So, that is that. Don't know why we keep having issues there but I think that failure may have had something to do with the etherpad system issues they were having last week. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | Next announcement is a reminder to review/add notes to the Berlin Forum etherpads. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Berlin2018 | 16:07 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: about those Etherpad, why is there only 1 link per hour, when there are multiple sessions at the same time? | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | That is coming up next week. If you can share your thoughts in the etherpads it would be appreciated. | 16:08 |
| geguileo | sorry, not Etherpad, the wiki | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: I was wondering that too. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | I know ours are linked. I am thinking the other people haven't add theirs. | 16:09 |
| geguileo | is it the one they think it's most important? | 16:09 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: mine isn't XD | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | Which one is that? | 16:09 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: the usage outside openstack | 16:09 |
| geguileo | but I see that on Wednesday there are multiple entries per hour | 16:09 |
| geguileo | so I'll just modify the Wiki | 16:10 |
| geguileo | (if I can) | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: That is the way it should be. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | Weird, I swear I put that link in there. | 16:10 |
| rosmaita | jungleboyj: do all our sessions have "Cinder" in the title? | 16:10 |
| geguileo | maybe somebody else discarded your changes :-( | 16:10 |
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| jungleboyj | geguileo: Possibly. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: I believe they do. | 16:11 |
| rosmaita | good planning! | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | I will double check our other links. | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Also, just a node that we will not have this meeting next week due to the Summit. | 16:13 |
| * smcginnis passes through while getting ready to go | 16:13 | |
| * jungleboyj waves at smcginnis | 16:13 | |
| jungleboyj | Ok. I think that is all I had for announcements. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Is you phone working in Germany? | 16:14 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic Cinder Outing Planning for Berlin | 16:14 |
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| jungleboyj | So, now that etherpad is working I have started a list of who is interested in doing dinner in Berlin. | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | It sounds like there is a lot going on Wednesday night. | 16:17 |
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| jungleboyj | So, I am thinking trying to do something after the Marketplace Mixer might be the best? | 16:17 |
| e0ne | +1 | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | Or try to do something Monday night if everyone is there at that point. | 16:17 |
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| geguileo | jungleboyj: Red Hat has a gathering on Monday | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | Does anyone have a preference there? | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. | 16:19 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: the Marketplace Mixer is on Wednesday? | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | Tuesday. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Pub Crawl is on Wednesday and I have some other commitments then anyway. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | So. Lets shoot for Tuesday. Does that sound good for everyone? | 16:22 |
| * geguileo thinks this is madness... He has parties/gatherings M,T,W | 16:22 | |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Often more than on a night. :) | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | s/on a night/one a night/ | 16:22 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: yup | 16:22 |
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| geguileo | jungleboyj: Tuesday is as good as any other day, I guess | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Would that work for you? | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: You have been to the Summit before. Right? ;-) | 16:23 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: yeah, I have, but any day we want to do the dinner, I have something already XD | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | Tuesday night the ops folks are hoping to get together too, but none of the other nights are any better as far as conflicts I think. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | We have e0ne and geguileo on the list and smcginnis would try to come. Guessing eharney would be interested. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | Well, I am going to propose Tuesday since it is as good a day as any for people. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | I will find a location and put ti in the etherpad. | 16:26 |
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| jungleboyj | I will add details in there after I find a location. If you can make it please confirm that so I know if I need to make a reservation. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Sound like a plan? | 16:26 |
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| geguileo | sounds good | 16:27 |
| e0ne | +1 | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | I will also send a note to the Mailing list. | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. That was all I had for topics. | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | whoami-rajat: Are you here? | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | Guess not. Just taking a quick look at the bugs here. | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | Good. 1795098 has been fixed. | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1782714 | 16:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1782714 in Cinder "Properties of an attached volume are lost after live migration" [Medium,New] | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | No progress on that one. | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | Did the info from Viktor ring any bells geguileo ? | 16:31 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: I didn't read them... Sorry :-( | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. I might be able to try to recreate/look at the problem but not for a couple of weeks. | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | At least I have an environment to do some more interesting tests with. | 16:32 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: I'll read the comments after the meeting and refresh my memory on the matter | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Thanks. | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1793364 | 16:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1793364 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "mysql db opportunistic unit tests timing out intermittently in the gate (bad thread switch?)" [High,Confirmed] | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | Multiple people have seen that issue but the bug has gone quiet. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Maybe a side effect of the thing you are fixing with threading? | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Oh, maybe not now that I've looked again. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | Occurrences were the worst the first couple of days of the month. Hasn't been happening so much the last couple of days. | 16:35 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: The old threading changes? | 16:35 |
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| smcginnis | That's what I jumped to, but looks like maybe something different. | 16:36 |
| geguileo | it looks like it's happening on Manila as well, so it should be related to all those backup thread changes... | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | should not? | 16:36 |
| geguileo | and it's in Nova as wel... | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | Right. So, would rather get the live migration issue looked at and see if anyone else figured out the unit test timeout. :-) | 16:38 |
| geguileo | it is when doing db_sync on unit tests!! :-O | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | Because of course unit tests should be modifying databases. :D | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | Yuck. | 16:39 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: :) | 16:39 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: I have checked the comments on the migration bug | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Cool. | 16:39 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: everything is as I said on comment #7 | 16:39 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: his bug is not a bug, but the one I thought could be a bug, is | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Ok. so we do have something that needs fixing there. | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:40 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: yup, but I'll tell him that it is not a bug (what was reported) and open a new one | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Ah, sounds good. | 16:41 |
| geguileo | with what's actually the bug, ro after migration becomes rw | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Cool. Thanks for finding that. | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, so that covers the bugs. | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | Anything for Open Discussion? | 16:43 |
| e0ne | see you next week i Berlin! | 16:44 |
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| jungleboyj | Sounds like a good plan. And watch the dinner planning etherpad for details there. | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | Glad a few of you finally get short travel. | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:45 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok. Looks like we can wrap up the meeting. | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | Look forward to seeing some of you next week. | 16:46 |
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| jungleboyj | For those of you who can't make it, you get an hour back next week. Use it wisely. :-) | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | Travel safe everyone and thanks for making the meeting! | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 7 16:46:56 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-11-07-16.00.html | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-11-07-16.00.txt | 16:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-11-07-16.00.log.html | 16:47 |
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| fungi | no storyboard meeting this week. find some of us at the summit next week, or in the #storyboard any old time | 19:12 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 7 21:01:02 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:01 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:01 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:01 |
| kota_ | hello | 21:01 |
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| rledisez | hi o/ | 21:01 |
| mattoliverau | O/ | 21:01 |
| notmyname | welcome | 21:02 |
| notmyname | not sure if clayg or tdasliva or zaitcev are around... | 21:02 |
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| clayg | thanks for the ping | 21:02 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:02 |
| notmyname | welcome :-) | 21:02 |
| notmyname | the openstack summit in berlin is next week. I'll be there. mattoliverau and kota_ will be there too, right? | 21:03 |
| kota_ | right | 21:03 |
| kota_ | I'll be since Monday, then fly out at Friday afternoon | 21:03 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:04 |
| mattoliverau | nope, I wont be there :( | 21:04 |
| notmyname | ah, ok | 21:04 |
| notmyname | I'll be there on tuesday and i fly out on friday | 21:04 |
| mattoliverau | too soon for the baby. | 21:04 |
| notmyname | i understand :-) | 21:04 |
| notmyname | I'll be cschwede will be there :-) | 21:04 |
| kota_ | got it | 21:04 |
| notmyname | oh, and rledisez, right? | 21:04 |
| rledisez | notmyname: yes, i'll be there | 21:04 |
| notmyname | rledisez: are you bringing anyone with you? | 21:05 |
| rledisez | yes, after me, the oldest member of the swift team at OVH | 21:05 |
| rledisez | i mean, he's not old, you got me i think ;) | 21:05 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:06 |
| notmyname | ok, logistics wise, for this meeting... | 21:06 |
| notmyname | next week, we should cancel because of the summit | 21:06 |
| notmyname | week after that is the US thanksgiving week. I'll leave it questionable if we have that meeting or not | 21:07 |
| notmyname | week after that, i'll be on a sales trip and won't be able to host the meeting | 21:07 |
| notmyname | and that takes us to december | 21:07 |
| kota_ | wow | 21:07 |
| mattoliverau | wow, the end of year is coming up quick | 21:07 |
| notmyname | I know we haven't had a lot of major stuff to discuss during this meeting, but I like having this meeting as a place where we all are online at the same time and can at least say hi and hear what's going on from others | 21:08 |
| mattoliverau | +1 | 21:08 |
| kota_ | +1 | 21:08 |
| notmyname | I don't know what that means, given the logistics of the next few weeks, but that's my opinion on it :-) | 21:09 |
| notmyname | but for today, let's talk about some of the ongoing work :-) | 21:09 |
| mattoliverau | well let's skip next week, then take it as it comes. I'm happy to run a thanks giving one if need be if we just want a catchup/progress meeting. | 21:10 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: awesome. that sounds great. thanks | 21:10 |
| tdasilva | +1 | 21:10 |
| notmyname | s3api patches look nearly done! | 21:10 |
| kota_ | thanks mattoliverau | 21:11 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592231/ <-- tdasilva wants kota_ to look at this for a +A | 21:11 |
| patchbot | patch 592231 - swift - s3api: Include '-' in S3 ETags of normal SLOs - 4 patch sets | 21:11 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575838/ <-- kota and tdasilva have both +1'd it, but there's a request for timburke to squash another patch | 21:11 |
| patchbot | patch 575838 - swift - Listing of versioned objects when versioning is no... - 3 patch sets | 21:11 |
| notmyname | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575818/ is the only one without any reviews | 21:12 |
| patchbot | patch 575818 - swift - Support long-running multipart uploads - 6 patch sets | 21:12 |
| kota_ | It's in my radar, I'll try it in this week (or in Berlin) | 21:12 |
| kota_ | saying about p 592231 | 21:12 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592231/ - swift - s3api: Include '-' in S3 ETags of normal SLOs - 4 patch sets | 21:12 |
| tdasilva | if timburke is ok with it i'd be happy to send a new patchset for 575838 | 21:12 |
| timburke | yeah, i | 21:12 |
| tdasilva | kota_: thanks | 21:12 |
| timburke | 've been meaning to squash that in and fix up the commit message... | 21:12 |
| notmyname | when these s3api patches land, I want to cut a swift release (2.20) | 21:13 |
| tdasilva | timburke: ah ok, you got it then! | 21:13 |
| clayg | aww yeah, best swift evar | 21:13 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: are we also waiting on p 575818? | 21:13 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575818/ - swift - Support long-running multipart uploads - 6 patch sets | 21:13 |
| notmyname | clayg: you know it! | 21:14 |
| timburke | kota_: you might also be a good person to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613452/ -- i want to try to pull the auth bits out of S3Request... | 21:14 |
| patchbot | patch 613452 - swift - s3api: Move authenticator logic to separate module - 4 patch sets | 21:14 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: yeah, I'd prefer all of the listed s3api patches to be in for a release | 21:14 |
| tdasilva | ack | 21:14 |
| kota_ | timburke: hew, it looks a bit large refacotring... | 21:15 |
| timburke | yeah... there's a bit of prep work for trying to get an STS-like endpoint, which has its own, separate way of doing signatures :-( | 21:16 |
| timburke | i think the v4 stuff mostly Just Works, but v2 is ... different ... | 21:17 |
| kota_ | what's STS? | 21:17 |
| notmyname | secure token service? | 21:17 |
| timburke | https://docs.aws.amazon.com/STS/latest/APIReference/Welcome.html -- basically, a way of issuing temporary credentials | 21:17 |
| kota_ | oic | 21:17 |
| kota_ | sounds like keystone :P | 21:18 |
| timburke | yeah, the request made me think of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603529/ a bit, too -- a little different, though | 21:19 |
| patchbot | patch 603529 - swift - s3 secret caching - 10 patch sets | 21:19 |
| notmyname | rledisez: how's losf? anything to update us on? any new patches or learning? | 21:19 |
| rledisez | notmyname: not much, alecuyer has been thinking/working on extents optimization in XFS. I just made a small update on an SSYNC patch to add concurrency | 21:20 |
| rledisez | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613987/ | 21:21 |
| patchbot | patch 613987 - swift - SSYNC: enable multiple SSYNC connections per job - 2 patch sets | 21:21 |
| rledisez | (it still misses some tests) | 21:21 |
| notmyname | cool. sounds like something that could be useful beyond losf too | 21:21 |
| notmyname | oh... speaking of ssync, timburke's been looking at something interesting | 21:22 |
| notmyname | so we've got this "bug" https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1510342 | 21:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1510342 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Reconstructor does not restore a fragment to a handoff node" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Bill Huber (wbhuber) | 21:22 |
| notmyname | "bug" because we intentionally wrote it that way to start with, but it should probably be changed | 21:23 |
| notmyname | and timburke's been thinking about how to fix it | 21:23 |
| timburke | i really want to track last-sync time, and be able to reconstruct to a handoff if one of the neighbors has been responding 507 for a while | 21:23 |
| notmyname | timburke: did you decide on the best place to store it? or should we discuss that here to get gut reactions from others? | 21:23 |
| kota_ | that's interesting idea to avoid race handoff writing maybe? | 21:24 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, where would you store that? on every frag.. and then do you need a qourum or go with the latest timestamp you find? | 21:25 |
| timburke | still not sure. either at the suffix or all the way down at the diskfile, but maybe both? *shrug* | 21:25 |
| rledisez | kota_: side note related to SSYNC and race conditions -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/611614/ | 21:25 |
| patchbot | patch 611614 - swift - Fix SSYNC concurrency on partition - 4 patch sets | 21:25 |
| notmyname | rledisez: I think you or alex should probably pay attention to the bug I linked and chat with timburke as he works on a patch. it probably affects ovh a bit | 21:26 |
| kota_ | rledisez: thx | 21:26 |
| rledisez | notmyname: yeah, i'll read the bug report carefully | 21:27 |
| timburke | mattoliverau: idea would be that each frag would track its last-sync with its neighbors independently | 21:27 |
| timburke | we could probably safely include the source when pushing a new frag to some remote, and new writes from the proxy ought to set it appropriately, but i think those could be later optimizations | 21:27 |
| rledisez | timburke: is it something that would travel with a partition? (during a rebalance) or you assume after a rebalance to restart from zero the tracking | 21:28 |
| mattoliverau | ahh ok, interesting | 21:28 |
| timburke | big thing is, i want a disk that gets unmounted but not removed from the ring to not (hugely) negatively affect the durability of objects that might have a frag on that disk | 21:28 |
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| timburke | rledisez: seems appropriate for it to travel with the part -- might even get us part of the way toward some of the ideas for tsync? like, we might be able to prioritize reverts following a rebalance with this extra info? not sure yet; still need to play with it | 21:30 |
| rledisez | timburke: it sounds reasonable, but are we trying to address the negligence of the operator? | 21:30 |
| notmyname | rledisez: lol @ "but can this patch fix operators that aren't doing smart things?" | 21:31 |
| timburke | rledisez: yeah -- i've got some customers that really don't like to have to think about their clusters | 21:31 |
| kota_ | lol | 21:31 |
| rledisez | ok, i guess i can stop worrying about my production now, you got it all ;) | 21:31 |
| timburke | "i can just check in like once a month and replace drives, right?" while not thinking much about how many failures can pile up hen you've got 2k, 3k drives in your cluster... | 21:32 |
| tdasilva | or simply can't afford a team the size of a public provider, smaller players need systems that are a bit smarter, IMHO | 21:33 |
| mattoliverau | rledisez: lol | 21:33 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: oh, ok, I suppose we can make it better for people other than rledisez :-) | 21:33 |
| notmyname | ok, what else do we need to bring up this week? | 21:34 |
| notmyname | anything else have a topic to mention? | 21:34 |
| notmyname | ok, I guess not then. :-) | 21:36 |
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| notmyname | thanks for coming today | 21:36 |
| notmyname | and thank you for your work on swift | 21:36 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:36 |
| kota_ | see you in Berlin | 21:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 7 21:36:32 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-11-07-21.01.html | 21:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-11-07-21.01.txt | 21:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-11-07-21.01.log.html | 21:36 |
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