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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 6 15:00:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
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| gagehugo | ping eeiden fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne redrobot | 15:01 |
| * fungi is around and of course also in tc office hour again | 15:02 | |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 15:02 |
| * gagehugo remembered about dst this week | 15:02 | |
| gagehugo | fungi: any updates on your end? or anything from the summit? | 15:03 |
| fungi | er, nope, not that i can remember anyway | 15:03 |
| gagehugo | heh | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | I'll give it a few more mins to see if anyone else shows up, otherwise I don't have anything either | 15:04 |
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| gagehugo | fungi: thanks! | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 6 15:11:23 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-12-06-15.00.html | 15:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-12-06-15.00.txt | 15:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-12-06-15.00.log.html | 15:11 |
| fungi | thanks gagehugo! | 15:11 |
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| melwitt | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 6 21:00:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| melwitt | hello team, welcome to the nova meeting | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:00 |
| melwitt | hm, this might be a short one with just us | 21:01 |
| melwitt | let's make a start | 21:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:01 |
| melwitt | #topic Release News | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| melwitt | #link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule | 21:01 |
| melwitt | milestone 2 is coming up early next year Jan 10 | 21:01 |
| melwitt | and soon people are going to start going on holiday PTO | 21:01 |
| melwitt | so I was wondering if anyone thought it would be a good idea to do another spec review day next week ahead of s-2 spec freeze? | 21:02 |
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| melwitt | I sent a mail to the ML but no responses | 21:02 |
| melwitt | so it seemed like maybe people don't think it's needed | 21:02 |
| mriedem | i am ambivalent | 21:03 |
| mriedem | runways aren't getting attention, | 21:03 |
| mriedem | i don't know where we are with stuff we've already approved, | 21:03 |
| mriedem | or themes set out at the ptg | 21:03 |
| melwitt | ok | 21:03 |
| mriedem | so i'm a big meh on spending a lot of time reviewing more specs, especially when a lot of people don't review them | 21:03 |
| melwitt | that's fair | 21:04 |
| dansmith | I'm kinda -0.9 on spec days in general, but definitely not interested in spending one of the days of my last week this year on it | 21:04 |
| dansmith | also seems like we've got a lot of things approved already, and not much going through the gate, but I could be wrong | 21:05 |
| mriedem | the gate is f'ed | 21:05 |
| melwitt | mriedem: based on what you said though, I'll put together an etherpad with our approved blueprints so we can start tracking (I had been originally going to wait until spec freeze). and also on there put all the items for the themes | 21:05 |
| dansmith | seems like it has been effed for a while | 21:05 |
| mriedem | so yes, half our time is spent rechecking things, if they even get reviewed | 21:05 |
| melwitt | ok, I appreciate the input. I'll reply to myself on the ML that we're gonna not do a spec review day | 21:06 |
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| melwitt | and I don't know the latest on what's going on with the gate, so I'll look to see if there's some way I can help there | 21:07 |
| melwitt | thanks for mentioning it | 21:07 |
| melwitt | #link Stein runway etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein | 21:08 |
| melwitt | #link runway #1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/initial-allocation-ratios (yikun) [END 2018-12-10] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/initial-allocation-ratios+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 21:08 |
| melwitt | #link runway #2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/local-disk-serial-numbers (mdbooth) [END 2018-12-14] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/local-disk-serial-numbers+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 21:08 |
| melwitt | #link runway #3 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migration-force-after-timeout (yikun) [END 2018-12-19] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/live-migration-force-after-timeout+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 21:08 |
| mriedem | #1 is approved, except docs patches at the end | 21:09 |
| mriedem | which ta da need review | 21:09 |
| mriedem | so we could drop it from the runway queue if we care | 21:09 |
| mriedem | or just recheck it the rest of the week | 21:09 |
| mriedem | i'll also mention reshaper was dropped for the 2nd time | 21:09 |
| melwitt | yeah :( | 21:10 |
| dansmith | if #1 is still in the gate and has un-reviewed stuff, I say leave it in the runway | 21:10 |
| melwitt | I need to poke bauzas about responding to the -1 on the patch | 21:11 |
| melwitt | dansmith: yeah, might as well | 21:11 |
| melwitt | ok, so we really need to review what's in the runways. I'll review the docs patches and take a look at the other runways too | 21:12 |
| melwitt | anything else for release news? | 21:13 |
| melwitt | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:13 | |
| melwitt | no critical bugz | 21:13 |
| melwitt | #link 58 new untriaged bugs (up 4 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 21:13 |
| melwitt | this count ^ was 64 yesterday, so big ol thanks for mriedem for doing a bunch of triage | 21:13 |
| melwitt | #link 12 untagged untriaged bugs (up 3 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 21:14 |
| melwitt | and thanks to all for staying vigilant on tagging bugs. we need to triage those tags | 21:14 |
| melwitt | #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags | 21:14 |
| melwitt | #help need help with bug triage | 21:14 |
| melwitt | Gate status | 21:14 |
| melwitt | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 21:15 |
| melwitt | 64% classification rate for the integrated gate | 21:15 |
| mriedem | might be time for a summary email to the ML from clarkb | 21:16 |
| melwitt | yeah, I was just thinking the same | 21:16 |
| mriedem | b/c between zuul restarts, slow nodes, and lots of other issues i don't know what's on fire | 21:16 |
| mriedem | beyond everything | 21:16 |
| clarkb | well its all on fire :P | 21:16 |
| mriedem | jinx | 21:16 |
| clarkb | I've been mostly looking at tripleo resets recently as they have higher cost | 21:17 |
| mriedem | can we just like, not run CI on tripleo? | 21:17 |
| melwitt | haha | 21:17 |
| clarkb | but integrated gate continues to show py3 test flakyness and neutron functional is perpetually unhappy | 21:17 |
| mriedem | if i were to conjure sdague of old, | 21:17 |
| mriedem | we'd probably be making things non-voting | 21:18 |
| clarkb | the slow nodes dont help but arent the only bugs, its more that they are really great at showing whhere we are inefficient | 21:18 |
| mriedem | yes the n-api things were good to find | 21:18 |
| dansmith | I have some patches up for those rpc things | 21:18 |
| dansmith | but we're still waiting for the first run | 21:18 |
| mriedem | same for the client inits | 21:19 |
| dansmith | should have those by tomorrow (eek) | 21:19 |
| melwitt | gr8t | 21:19 |
| clarkb | but noted I should write an email | 21:19 |
| mriedem | thanks | 21:19 |
| clarkb | will try to get to that after lunch | 21:19 |
| melwitt | clarkb: yeah, your email last time was awesome. thank you for doing it | 21:19 |
| dansmith | are we like, moving on here? | 21:20 |
| melwitt | #link patch to help with slow node failures https://review.openstack.org/623282 | 21:20 |
| melwitt | I was looking for links | 21:20 |
| melwitt | *patches | 21:21 |
| mriedem | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/623246/ | 21:21 |
| mriedem | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/623265/ | 21:21 |
| melwitt | thank you | 21:21 |
| melwitt | ok | 21:21 |
| melwitt | 3rd party CI | 21:21 |
| melwitt | #link 3rd party CI status http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 21:21 |
| melwitt | new link for this apparently | 21:22 |
| melwitt | ooh, this one's a lot faster | 21:22 |
| melwitt | ok, anything else on bugs, gate, CI? | 21:22 |
| melwitt | #topic Reminders | 21:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:22 | |
| melwitt | #link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking | 21:23 |
| melwitt | anyone else have any reminders? | 21:23 |
| melwitt | ok | 21:23 |
| melwitt | #topic Stable branch status | 21:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:23 | |
| melwitt | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z | 21:23 |
| melwitt | bunch of reviews needed | 21:24 |
| melwitt | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z | 21:24 |
| melwitt | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 21:24 |
| melwitt | we release rocky recently but not queens and pike. so we can consider doing a queens and pike release | 21:24 |
| melwitt | I think we should, but have to flush out the reviews | 21:25 |
| melwitt | I'll spend some time on stable reviews this week | 21:25 |
| melwitt | anything else for stable? | 21:25 |
| melwitt | #topic Subteam Highlights | 21:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:26 | |
| melwitt | I think efried_cya_jan is off on PTO | 21:26 |
| edleafe | yep | 21:26 |
| efried_cya_jan | true story | 21:26 |
| edleafe | I can summarize | 21:26 |
| melwitt | ok, great | 21:26 |
| edleafe | oh, you want to do it? | 21:26 |
| efried_cya_jan | no, please go ahead | 21:26 |
| edleafe | We discussed the motion to move os-resource-classes to its own OpenStack repo | 21:26 |
| edleafe | The consensus (without jaypipes present) was that simpler was better, so we went with cdent's repo | 21:26 |
| edleafe | edleafe agreed to do the necessary paperwork with infra | 21:27 |
| edleafe | #link Add os-resource-classes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/621666/ | 21:27 |
| edleafe | We discussed the nova-to-placement traffic reduction series now starting at | 21:27 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615646/ | 21:27 |
| edleafe | Also discussed this contribution from zzzeek: | 21:27 |
| edleafe | #link data fixture cleanup https://review.openstack.org/#/c/621304/ | 21:27 |
| edleafe | Under bugs, we talked about: | 21:27 |
| edleafe | #link ensure aggregates under load https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1804453 | 21:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1804453 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "maximum recursion possible while setting aggregates in placement" [Undecided,New] | 21:27 |
| edleafe | This only shows under a heavy recursive loop; agreed to discuss further after the meeting | 21:27 |
| edleafe | EOM | 21:27 |
| melwitt | cool, thanks | 21:27 |
| melwitt | I spoke to jaypipes in #openstack-placement yesterday about the os-resource-classes proposal and he is OK with it though not preferred approach | 21:28 |
| melwitt | so I'll be acking those patches | 21:28 |
| edleafe | It did seem a bit heavy for something that shouldn't be changing very often | 21:29 |
| melwitt | yeah, I saw pros and cons with either way | 21:29 |
| melwitt | ok, next API, no notes from gmann | 21:30 |
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| melwitt | anything else for subteams? | 21:30 |
| melwitt | #topic Stuck Reviews | 21:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:30 | |
| melwitt | no items in the agenda, so I assume we skip it | 21:30 |
| melwitt | #topic Open discussion | 21:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:30 | |
| melwitt | I have one item here | 21:30 |
| melwitt | (melwitt): hallway track from summit - operator contributed patch to add extend volume support for RBD https://review.openstack.org/613039. Question: specless blueprint or spec needed? | 21:31 |
| mriedem | libvirt volume driver feature parity is traditionally specless bp | 21:31 |
| melwitt | ah, good point | 21:31 |
| gaudenz | hi I'm the operator in question. I'm here to today if you have any questions specific. I added a response on the review. | 21:31 |
| mriedem | we do have tempest testing for that feature though, so as i've said to him before, i'd want to see the ceph job passing on that change with that test enabled | 21:32 |
| gaudenz | Other similar changes have been done in the past without a spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554679/ | 21:32 |
| mriedem | gaudenz: spec != blueprint | 21:32 |
| melwitt | gaudenz: right. this will be a specless blueprint. so all you need to do is create a launchpad blueprint with the summary and link it to the patch | 21:32 |
| mriedem | and that was like 15 LOC | 21:32 |
| melwitt | I can help with running the ceph job on the change with extend volume enabled | 21:33 |
| gaudenz | melwitt: I can do that. So just a summary on launchpad to be able to link any other changes (tempest?) that would be needed? | 21:33 |
| gaudenz | Or is there an approval process for specless blueprints too? | 21:34 |
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| mriedem | we'd approve it after this meeting, | 21:34 |
| melwitt | gaudenz: yes. you'll mention the blueprint in the commit message of any changes related to it | 21:34 |
| mriedem | tempest already has a test, | 21:34 |
| mriedem | the ceph job doesn't run it | 21:34 |
| gaudenz | So I would need to do a change to tempest to enable this. right? I guess that should be fairly easy to do. | 21:35 |
| melwitt | gaudenz: I'm familiar with the ceph job so I can add the patch for having the ceph job run the already existing tempest test | 21:35 |
| mriedem | in fact, the ceph job test blacklist used to be in nova but i forget where it moved | 21:35 |
| melwitt | gaudenz: or I can just show you what to do | 21:35 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/devstack-plugin-ceph/blob/master/tempest_blacklist.txt | 21:35 |
| gaudenz | melwitt: yes would be appreciated. | 21:35 |
| mriedem | the extend test is probably marked slow... | 21:35 |
| mriedem | anyway, move that to -nova | 21:36 |
| melwitt | ok, cool. thanks | 21:36 |
| melwitt | alright, that's all from the agenda | 21:36 |
| melwitt | anything else people want to talk about before we call it? | 21:36 |
| melwitt | ok, thanks everyone | 21:37 |
| melwitt | #endmeeting | 21:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 6 21:37:27 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-12-06-21.00.html | 21:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-12-06-21.00.txt | 21:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-12-06-21.00.log.html | 21:37 |
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