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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Dec 7 14:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hi njohnston | 14:00 |
| njohnston | How are you doing mlavalle? Happy Friday! | 14:01 |
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| mlavalle | same to you, njohnston | 14:01 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: hi, I have another 2 RFE to discuss in future driver meetings | 14:01 |
| Chenjie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1803494 | 14:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1803494 in neutron "[RFE] Add l2pop support for floating IP resources" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) | 14:01 |
| Chenjie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1806316 | 14:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1806316 in neutron "[RFE] Add RPC query API to l2pop for FDB resync" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) | 14:01 |
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| mlavalle | Chenjie: ack | 14:02 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: Thank you so much! | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | haleyb indicated that he might be a little late | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: you around? feeling better? | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: ping | 14:03 |
| rubasov | o/ | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | hey rubasov | 14:04 |
| rubasov | hello | 14:04 |
| rubasov | I'm just here to listen to learn how this goes | 14:04 |
| amotoki | hi | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | so slaweq sent an email last night indicating he was sick | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | so he is very unlikely to attend today | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | amotoki is here :-) | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | and I know haleyb will be here, although a little late | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | let's give him a few minutes to achieve quorum | 14:06 |
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| mlavalle | yamamoto is also sick today, so he won't attend | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | it must be the cold weather in the northern hemisphere | 14:08 |
| njohnston | yes, so many are sick | 14:08 |
| amotoki | I am staying a southern island in Japan this week for an event and it is much warmer than Tokyo by 10~15 degree :) | 14:09 |
| amotoki | I need to care myself when I return to Tokyo tomorrow | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | although, at least today, it is not that cold in Wroclaw (where slaweq lives). it is about 10C (51F) | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | well, today Tokyo is ~9C (50F) | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | not that cold | 14:11 |
| amotoki | It still sounds cold to me :p | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 14:11 |
| amotoki | it is 25~28C here | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | by all means, amotoki, please take care of yourself when you go back to Tokyo | 14:11 |
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| amotoki | thanks | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | Let's give haleyb 3 more minutes and then we start discussing Chenjie's RFE, which is where we left off last week | 14:13 |
| njohnston | I just sent haleyb a message in a side channel | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | njohnston: he sent me an email earlier today indicating he had to run some errands | 14:14 |
| njohnston | ah ok | 14:14 |
| slaweq | hi, sorry for being late | 14:14 |
| slaweq | I'm feeling bit better so I can attend our meeting | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: are you sure? we understand if you need to rest | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | #topic RFEs | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:15 | |
| slaweq | no, it's fine. I rest all day :) | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | Great! | 14:15 |
| amotoki | slaweq: good to hear that you are getting better :) | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | so let's start here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1793653 | 14:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1793653 in neutron "[RFE] Enable other subprojects to extend l2pop fdb information" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) | 14:16 |
| njohnston | slaweq: Glad you'redoing better! | 14:16 |
| slaweq | thx guys | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: I read it carefully yesterday and overall it makes sense to me | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | I have a a couple of questions, though: | 14:17 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: thanks! | 14:18 |
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| mlavalle | 1) For this to work, there must a corresponding change in a subproject, I suspect in this case networking-bgpvpn, right? | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: ^^^ | 14:19 |
| haleyb | sorry i'm late, darn laptop | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: no problem. thanks for showing up | 14:20 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: yes,it should be networking-bgpvpn in this case. | 14:23 |
| Chenjie | mlavalee: sorry for late reply. I didn't see your question. | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: has that changed been approved in that subproject or is it under consideration? I looked in Gerrit and couldn't find anything: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/networking-bgpvpn+owner:%22ChenjieXu+%253Cchenjie.xu%2540intel.com%253E%22 | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: of course I'm assuming you are the person implementing that change | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: so what is the status on the bgpvpn side? | 14:25 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: It has not been proposed to make the change in bgpvpn. | 14:25 |
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| Chenjie | mlavalle: I think the change will be proposed after this RFE merged. | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: has there at least been any discussion with them? | 14:26 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: sorry, I don't know. I can ask. | 14:27 |
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| mlavalle | Chenjie: second question 2) Have you deployed the proposed Neutron patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599319) with bgpvpn (with a corresponding change to register a fdb extending function) and shown it works? | 14:30 |
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| Chenjie | mlavalle: Sorry, I didn't test this with BGPVPN. I just test the RFE with a simple case written by myself. | 14:32 |
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| Chenjie | mlavalle: I just sent an email to ask whether the bgpvpn side will be upstreamed. | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: mhhhh. can you clarify that. so when we are talking about bgpvpn, aren't we talking about https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn? | 14:35 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: yes, I can. We are talking about this project. | 14:37 |
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| mlavalle | Chenjie: so there is nothing to be upstreamed. This project is already "upstreamed" in the the open | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: and that means a corresponding change has to be proposed to https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn, correct? | 14:39 |
| Chenjie | https://github.com/starlingx-staging/stx-networking-bgpvpn | 14:40 |
| amotoki | what is the relationship between networking-bgpvpn and stx-networking-bgpvpn? | 14:40 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: the change in this project should be upstreamed to project networking-bgpvpn | 14:40 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: stx-networking-bgpvpn is based on networking-bgpvpn | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: is it a fork? | 14:41 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: stx-networking-bgpvpn is downstream. | 14:41 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: yes. | 14:42 |
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| amotoki | looking at the repo, stx-netwokring-bgpvpn is a fork, not a downstream. | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: so the corresponding change has to be upstreamed to https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn, correct? | 14:43 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle:yes, but I don't know will they propose to upstream those changes. I just sent an email to ask about that. | 14:44 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: I think that this type of repo will disappear in the near future. The idea is that StarlingX converges with OpenStack master in gneral | 14:45 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: yes! | 14:45 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: yeah, my undestanding is same | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | the plan is for this convergence to take place sonn after te end of Stein | 14:45 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: thank you for your information! | 14:47 |
| amotoki | it seems we first need to discuss a RFE for a specific user-visible feature like l2pop support in bgpvpn. the current RFE we are discussing is about how to achieve this. | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: I am hesitant to make this change in the Neutron side if we don't have the buy in from the the upstream networking-bgpvpn team | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | why make this change in Neutron when the the bgpvpn upstream might say it won't work for some reason | 14:48 |
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| mlavalle | ? | 14:49 |
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| Chenjie | mlavalle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1803494 | 14:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1803494 in neutron "[RFE] Add l2pop support for floating IP resources" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) | 14:49 |
| slaweq | but IMO even if bgpvpn will not use it, can't it be used by other projects as well? Maybe some 3rd party projects? | 14:50 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: this RFE can alse be a use case for RFE "Enable other projects to extend l2pop fdbs" | 14:50 |
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| Chenjie | mlavalle: this RFE just propose to make changes in neutron. | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: yes.... but in principle why add a feature that doesn't have an approved use case yet..... | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | having said that, I buy the posibility that this latest RFE might be such use case: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1803494 | 14:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1803494 in neutron "[RFE] Add l2pop support for floating IP resources" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | but now we need to take a look at this one | 14:53 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: that's ok with me. | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | Chenjie: let me be clear, I am not trying to shut dowan your RFE. I also wear a StarlingX hat, as you know | 14:54 |
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| mlavalle | I want StarlingX to succeed | 14:54 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: during this period, I think I can ask about the opinions of BGPVPN team. | 14:54 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: yes, I understand. | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | here's what I propose to go forward | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | 1) Let's review this latest RFE | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | 2) I volunteer to facilitate a conversation with the networking-bgpvpn team. I want to hear what they have to say | 14:56 |
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| mlavalle | Chenjie: does it make sense^^^^? | 14:57 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle:it makes sense to me. | 14:57 |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: thank you for your proposal! | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | any other thoughts, amotoki, haleyb, slaweq, njohnston, rubasov? | 14:58 |
| haleyb | none from me | 14:58 |
| slaweq | sounds good to me | 14:58 |
| njohnston | sounds good to me | 14:58 |
| amotoki | sounds good | 14:58 |
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| mlavalle | ok, thanks for attending. Have a great weekend! | 14:59 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: which stadium projects do we cover by neutron RFEs? | 14:59 |
| amotoki | we sometimes cover fwaas RFEs. how aobut networking-bgpvpn? | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: I think is a project by project. I'll ask tmorin | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| slaweq | thx, have a good weekend :) | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Dec 7 15:00:11 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-12-07-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-12-07-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-12-07-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| rubasov | bye | 15:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:00 |
| * slaweq is going to rest again :) | 15:00 | |
| Chenjie | mlavalle: thank you so much! | 15:00 |
| ttx | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
| amotoki | thanks! | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Dec 7 15:00:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:00 |
| ttx | ohai! | 15:00 |
| Chenjie | guys, thank you! | 15:00 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 15:00 |
| ttx | been a while.... where did smcginnis pack the pinglist | 15:00 |
| armstrong | o/ | 15:00 |
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| ttx | fungi, evrardjp maybe? | 15:01 |
| fungi | ohai | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:01 |
| ttx | Agenda around line 192 | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | I don't see a list in the etherpad | 15:01 |
| * fungi was sucked into openstack-discuss | 15:01 | |
| ttx | sort of a wormhole | 15:02 |
| fungi | indeed | 15:02 |
| ttx | #topic how to fix karma-subunit-reporter 0.0.4 tag | 15:02 |
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| ttx | So I've been importing release history for some rarely-released QA deliverables | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | in the past we've just ignored malformed tags | 15:02 |
| ttx | karma-subunit-reporter has a "v0.0.4" | 15:03 |
| ttx | So I should only mention 0.0.3 and be done ? That might result in someone proposing 0.0.4 next and confusion? | 15:03 |
| * ttx is actually tempted to release a 0,0,5 | 15:04 | |
| fungi | ahh, 2-year-old tag pushed by a human | 15:04 |
| ttx | yes, pre-release-repo | 15:04 |
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| diablo_rojo | how vintage | 15:04 |
| ttx | dhellmann: what do you suggest? | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | so v0.0.4 is the latest release? | 15:05 |
| ttx | yes | 15:05 |
| fungi | yes | 15:05 |
| fungi | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/karma-subunit-reporter | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | I guess we could retag it, then | 15:05 |
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| fungi | note that our release pipeline regex wouldn't have matched that tag anyway | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | we could ignore it, re-tag it, or tag a new version | 15:05 |
| fungi | the tag pipeline would have because it fires for any signed tag regardless of content | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | maybe using a new version number would be better | 15:06 |
| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/622919/ | 15:06 |
| ttx | dhellmann: yeah, that's what I was thinking | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | less confusing than having 2 packages with the "same" version | 15:06 |
| ttx | looks like my technique to match tags and commit SHAs is not valid, too | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | we have a tool in the releases repo to import existing history | 15:08 |
| ttx | I used git show-ref --tag | 15:08 |
| fungi | how does that not work? | 15:08 |
| ttx | dhellmann: do we? the tools I found did seem to do something else, or not work for _independent | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | at least we used to | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | tools/build_tag_history.sh looks relevant | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | although that's clearly importing older stuff | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | ah, tag_history_from_git.py | 15:09 |
| ttx | fungi: the validation complains for example that Version 0.1.4 in openstack/devstack-tools is on commit '1384ec992db4ea1692e66427dfa56edfe9a75528' instead of 'f77cebc8dc8994f6a76bb3f46dd0f2ff2d678244' | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | you might want to modify that to make it just pull everything into the independent file | 15:09 |
| ttx | while show-ref gives: | 15:10 |
| ttx | f77cebc8dc8994f6a76bb3f46dd0f2ff2d678244 refs/tags/0.1.4 | 15:10 |
| fungi | huh, i'm going to dig into that | 15:10 |
| fungi | oh! | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | a signed tag gets a git object of its own | 15:10 |
| fungi | i get it | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | unsigned tags dono't | 15:10 |
| ttx | dammit git | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | this was exciting to learn about when I was writing reno :-) | 15:10 |
| ttx | I'm too old for that sh%t :) | 15:10 |
| fungi | yes, show-ref <obj> for a tag gives you a hash of the tag, not the commit it wraps | 15:10 |
| fungi | i misunderstood what you were looking for there for a moment | 15:11 |
| ttx | Anyway, moving on... (still if someone has the magic git command that displays the SHA I want, I'll take it) | 15:11 |
| ttx | #topic networking-arista release job errors | 15:12 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: look in tools/tag_history_from_git.py for the git show command that uses | 15:12 |
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| ttx | We had a number of job fails this week, I think that's the only one still open though | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | arista isn't an official project, and it looks like someone is manually uploading releases and then pushing tags | 15:12 |
| ttx | #link http://logs.openstack.org/47/47808fbdc25422e35d3448236bdb4123407f4242/release/release-openstack-python/b3d41d9/ | 15:12 |
| ttx | dhellmann: so I guess my question is... should we care at all ? | 15:12 |
| ttx | And if yes, is there a quick way to tell that we should not care | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | we could let them know | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | but otherwise I don't think we need to care | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | unfortunately we get email about all failures, not just the official repo ones | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | so I usually check the officialness first if I don't know off the top of my head | 15:13 |
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| ttx | agree on the "not caring", I'm just wondering how to quickly tell. I guess it's just a grep away | 15:14 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:14 |
| fungi | other than client-side procmail automation i'm not sure how to go about sorting the wheat from the chaff there | 15:15 |
| ttx | ok, that is all I had | 15:15 |
| ttx | #topic open discussion | 15:15 |
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| fungi | or having a separate release pipeline for official openstack projects | 15:15 |
| ttx | Anything else ? | 15:15 |
| ttx | fungi: I suspect that could be resolved by opendevving | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | I've noticed diablo_rojo lurking about the meetings ;-) -- should we be doing some mentoring to train her up as a release manager? | 15:16 |
| ttx | if you use a zuul opendev tenant for all things not official? | 15:16 |
| ttx | dhellmann: acute eyes | 15:16 |
| ttx | dhellmann: we should! Also she might take over the release highlights collection process | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | ok, I can sign up for that | 15:17 |
| ttx | Although she is a bit sleepy at release meeting time | 15:17 |
| ttx | /dcc send diablo_rojo caffeine | 15:17 |
| diablo_rojo | :) Yes please :) | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | I'm sure we can find a better time to pair up on a few reviews | 15:18 |
| fungi | ttx: yeah, separate tenants are likely to happen in the future | 15:18 |
| diablo_rojo | ttx, yes please | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | diablo_rojo : let's talk offline about your monday/tuesday schedule, since those are my release review days | 15:18 |
| diablo_rojo | dhellmann, sounds good | 15:18 |
| ttx | I'm on point on Wednesdays, fwiw | 15:19 |
| ttx | We use review days so that we can more easily ignore relmgt work on other days | 15:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Makes sense to me. | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | it'll be good to have someone doing reivews in a later tz, too | 15:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Monday/Tuesday are usually lighter days for me so that works. | 15:20 |
| * ttx looks up base docs to send as preparatory pre-mentoring reading | 15:20 | |
| diablo_rojo | West coast represent! | 15:20 |
| diablo_rojo | ttx, anne may have sent me all that already ;) But send over what you've got in case I missed anything | 15:20 |
| ttx | https://releases.openstack.org/#references is probably good reading | 15:20 |
| ttx | don't hesitate to flag things that look incoherent, sometimes process moves and docs stay still | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:21 |
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| ttx | Like the process doc is not even mentioning release highlights | 15:22 |
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| diablo_rojo | Will do! | 15:22 |
| ttx | "oops" | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | this team is run by a bunch of slackers | 15:23 |
| ttx | Yes, can't wait until they are all replaced with capable hands | 15:23 |
| ttx | dhellmann: they might see through that ruse though | 15:23 |
| * diablo_rojo will never forget that the release team was late for their first team photo | 15:24 | |
| dhellmann | ttx: sssh | 15:24 |
| ttx | anyway... anything else to discuss in meeting? | 15:24 |
| diablo_rojo | by like...20 min | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | wow, gauntlet thrown | 15:24 |
| ttx | By definition, the release is never late | 15:24 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo: i wonder if you could help get the release team better integrated into the contributor guide? | 15:24 |
| ttx | It's everyone else that is too early or too late | 15:24 |
| fungi | you'd be well-placed to gauge what's missing from their contributor onboarding as you're going through it, after all | 15:25 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, yeah something I can look into once I know more of the things :) | 15:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Definitely can do that. | 15:25 |
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| * fungi apologizes if he seems to be volunteering you for things, given how busy you already are | 15:26 | |
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| diablo_rojo | Though hopefully smcginnis and tonyb have already done most of that being involved with OUI | 15:26 |
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| fungi | great point | 15:26 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, I do the same to you lol | 15:26 |
| fungi | touché! | 15:26 |
| ttx | Alright I think we can close then | 15:27 |
| fungi | thanks for chairing, ttx! | 15:27 |
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| diablo_rojo | thanks ttx! | 15:27 |
| ttx | Have a great end of week! | 15:27 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Dec 7 15:27:33 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-12-07-15.00.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-12-07-15.00.txt | 15:27 |
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