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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:01 |
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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 11 04:01:25 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:01 |
| samP | Hi all for Masakari | 04:01 |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:01 |
| samP | tpatil: hi | 04:01 |
| tashiromt | Hi | 04:01 |
| samP | tashiromt: hi | 04:01 |
| shilpasd | Hi | 04:01 |
| samP | shilpasd: Hi | 04:02 |
| samP | #topic Critical Bugs and patches | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Bugs and patches (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:02 | |
| samP | Any critical bugs or patches | 04:02 |
| samP | if not let's jump into work item updates. If any please bring them up anytime in this meeting. | 04:04 |
| samP | #topic Train Work Items | 04:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Train Work Items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:04 | |
| samP | Please share any updates on Train Work Items | 04:04 |
| tpatil | 1. Devstack support for hostmonitor | 04:05 |
| tpatil | configuration of IPMI is in progress | 04:05 |
| tpatil | samP: If you have any document how to configure IPMI, please share with us. Also we need some env. to try these configurations | 04:06 |
| samP | tpatil: At this point I do not have any document for that. However, I can share the note on how to configure those. | 04:08 |
| tpatil | samP: That will help, Thanks | 04:09 |
| samP | About the env., let's discuss internally. I might be able to allocate some nodes for you. | 04:10 |
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| tpatil | samP: Thanks | 04:10 |
| tpatil | 2. Improving Documentation | 04:13 |
| tpatil | Identified two areas | 04:13 |
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| tpatil | a) Installation document for OS specific distributions | 04:13 |
| tpatil | b) Configuration options are missing for masakari-monitors | 04:14 |
| tpatil | We will start working on these two areas first | 04:15 |
| samP | thanks. I remember someone submitted a document for masakari-monitors | 04:16 |
| samP | However, it didn't merge. I think the patch is bit old, but still out there | 04:17 |
| samP | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/489095/ | 04:18 |
| tpatil | Ok, That's good. We will use this | 04:19 |
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| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:19 |
| tpatil | We will use this patch as a reference and start working on it | 04:19 |
| tpatil | Need to check how to link masakari-monitors documentation with masakari | 04:20 |
| tpatil | #link https://docs.openstack.org/masakari/latest/ | 04:20 |
| tpatil | if the above patch is merged, how to reflect those changes on the main documentation page | 04:21 |
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| samP | if I remember correctly, we have to setup doc jobs | 04:23 |
| tpatil | Yes, I can see one for masakari-monitors as well | 04:24 |
| tpatil | #link : https://docs.openstack.org/masakari-monitors/latest/ | 04:24 |
| tpatil | So it shouldn't be an issue | 04:24 |
| samP | In doc jobs, sphinx build without error, it will put the build htmls to public doc. | 04:25 |
| samP | tpatil: yes, I think is not an issue | 04:25 |
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| tpatil | That's all update from my side | 04:28 |
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| tpatil | about Train work items | 04:28 |
| samP | tpatil: Thanks | 04:30 |
| samP | No update from my side. | 04:30 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:30 | |
| samP | Any other items to discuss? | 04:30 |
| tpatil | nothing from my side | 04:31 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:32 |
| samP | OK then, Let's finish today's meeting | 04:33 |
| samP | Thank you all! | 04:33 |
| tpatil | samP: Thanks | 04:34 |
| samP | Please use openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org ML or #openstack-masakari @IRC freenode for further discussions | 04:36 |
| samP | Thanks again. | 04:36 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 04:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 11 04:36:31 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-06-11-04.01.html | 04:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-06-11-04.01.txt | 04:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-06-11-04.01.log.html | 04:36 |
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| dkushwaha | #startmeeting tacker | 08:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 11 08:05:01 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkushwaha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:05 |
| dkushwaha | #topic Roll Call | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:05 | |
| dkushwaha | who is here for Tacker weekly meeting? | 08:05 |
| hyunsikyang | Hi:) | 08:06 |
| hyunsikyang | I am here! | 08:06 |
| dkushwaha | hello hyunsikyang | 08:07 |
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| dkushwaha | lets wait for other members | 08:08 |
| hyunsikyang | ok:) are you planning to attend next meeting? | 08:08 |
| hyunsikyang | I mean Summit. | 08:09 |
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| dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, yes | 08:09 |
| dkushwaha | we needs to start thinking for CFP | 08:09 |
| hyunsikyang | At this time, I have personal issue.. I can not attend.. maybe! But, one of our member will be there | 08:11 |
| hyunsikyang | If I solve my issue, I can attend. anyway! Let's see | 08:11 |
| hyunsikyang | Anyway thank you for your review about prometheus and mine (fenix)! | 08:12 |
| dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, oh. Ok, so IMO you can plan/submit topic for sessions first. And later if it got selected, you can decide to visit as per your situation | 08:13 |
| hyunsikyang | Ah Ok:) | 08:13 |
| dkushwaha | Seems no other Folks are available for meeting today | 08:14 |
| hyunsikyang | yes.. Cuz my team member also have other issue today. | 08:15 |
| dkushwaha | i see | 08:15 |
| hyunsikyang | Can we talk about CFP briefly? | 08:15 |
| hyunsikyang | in the tacker channel? | 08:15 |
| hyunsikyang | or here? | 08:15 |
| dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, sure, but as of now, i dont have any topic for CFP. | 08:15 |
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| dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, if you have something to discuss, then we can continue here, otherwise, we can discuss later on Tacker channel as wekk | 08:16 |
| dkushwaha | %s/wekk/well | 08:16 |
| hyunsikyang | Ah ok. I just ask you about summit session. | 08:17 |
| hyunsikyang | Because, last time, some people asked me about tacker after presentation. So.. | 08:17 |
| hyunsikyang | I just want to know about your plan for Summit. | 08:18 |
| dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, from my side, I will have two PTL sessions(project update, project onboarding). | 08:19 |
| dkushwaha | other than that I can plan max 3 other sessions | 08:19 |
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| hyunsikyang | you mean that total 5? | 08:20 |
| dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, yes | 08:20 |
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| dkushwaha | that is max limit | 08:20 |
| hyunsikyang | ah! | 08:20 |
| dkushwaha | other than 2 PTL sessions, it will depend on selection of session | 08:21 |
| hyunsikyang | ok. good | 08:21 |
| dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, as we have noting else to discuss, so lets close this meeting | 08:22 |
| hyunsikyang | ah ok!:) | 08:22 |
| dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, Thanks for joining :) | 08:22 |
| dkushwaha | #endmeeting | 08:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 11 08:22:50 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2019/tacker.2019-06-11-08.05.html | 08:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2019/tacker.2019-06-11-08.05.txt | 08:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2019/tacker.2019-06-11-08.05.log.html | 08:22 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 11 16:00:29 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | Hi there | 16:00 |
| haleyb | o/ | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | Today we are going to have a brief meeting, since I have a hard stop at 30 minutes after the hour | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:02 | |
| njohnston_ | o/ | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | #undo | 16:02 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | before going on, let open Grafana http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:03 | |
| mlavalle | mlavalle to debug neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario failures (bug 1830763) | 16:03 |
| openstack | bug 1830763 in neutron "Debug neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario failures" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1830763 - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:03 |
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| mlavalle | I made a little bit of progress here. | 16:04 |
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| mlavalle | The test case that fails the most is test_connectivity_though_2_routers | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | and I can reproduce it in my local environment | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | so I am debugging it, although to definite root cause has been determined yet | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | so I will continue working on this | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | #action mlavalle to debug neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario failures (bug 1830763) reproducing most common failure: test_connectivity_through_2_routers | 16:07 |
| openstack | bug 1830763 in neutron "Debug neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario failures" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1830763 - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | next is slaweq to check logs with failed test_dvr_ha_router_unbound_from_agents functional test | 16:08 |
| mlavalle | he checked logs: http://logs.openstack.org/78/653378/7/check/neutron-functional/c5ac6a3/testr_results.html.gz | 16:08 |
| mlavalle | and it seems it was a slow VM the test was running on | 16:09 |
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| mlavalle | since we have a shortened meeting today, let's go straight to | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | #topic Grafana | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:09 | |
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| njohnston_ | looks like the midonet co-gating job is broken as of Sunday | 16:10 |
| haleyb | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664614/ | 16:10 |
| haleyb | i just proposed that, might help with some of it | 16:10 |
| haleyb | doh, and it's going to need an update, wigh | 16:11 |
| haleyb | s/wigh/sigh | 16:11 |
| haleyb | i will hack at it... | 16:13 |
| mlavalle | njohnston_: yeap | 16:13 |
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| mlavalle | it also seems to me that we had a little bit of misbehavior today with neutron-tempest-plugin-scneario-linuxbridge | 16:14 |
| mlavalle | not sure it's really a proble yet, but we shlud probably keep an eye on it | 16:15 |
| mlavalle | and then also functional tests seem unhappy | 16:16 |
| njohnston_ | Another quick question - I see the designate scenario job is voting in the check queue but it is absent from the gate queue, should we think about adding it to gate? Was it removed for a reason? | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | I don't remember if it has ever voted in the gate queue | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | I am not sure we need it in the gate | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | why do you think it should be there? | 16:17 |
| njohnston_ | I don't feel strongly about the designate job one way or another but it seemed like an anomalous status so I thought I'd see if others have inions | 16:17 |
| njohnston_ | *opinions | 16:17 |
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| mlavalle | I don't see a reason but if other come up with a good one, I wouldn't oppose it | 16:18 |
| njohnston_ | sounds good to me | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's look at functional now | 16:19 |
| mlavalle | #topic fullstack/functional | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "fullstack/functional (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:19 | |
| mlavalle | We have a new critical bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1832307 | 16:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1832307 in neutron "Functional test neutron.tests.functional.agent.linux.test_ip_lib.IpMonitorTestCase. test_add_remove_ip_address_and_interface is failing" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | this is with python2.7 | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | any takers? | 16:21 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:23 |
| mlavalle | in the case of fullstack, we have a couple of test cases failing: | 16:23 |
| mlavalle | neutron.tests.fullstack.test_l3_agent.TestHAL3Agent. test_ha_router_restart_agents_no_packet_lost | 16:23 |
| mlavalle | There is a patch to mark it unstable: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/660592/ | 16:24 |
| mlavalle | so take a look | 16:25 |
| mlavalle | and then we also have neutron.tests.fullstack.test_l3_agent.TestLegacyL3Agent. test_north_south_traffic | 16:25 |
| mlavalle | any comments? | 16:26 |
| haleyb | i think we should merge the patch for the unstable job at least | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | I agree | 16:27 |
| njohnston_ | agreed | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's go to | 16:28 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open discussion | 16:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:28 | |
| mlavalle | anything else we should discuss today? | 16:28 |
| haleyb | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/640812/ | 16:28 |
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| haleyb | This was a proposed change by njohnston_ to make the ovn-tempest job voting in the neutron queue | 16:29 |
| mlavalle | yes I saw it | 16:29 |
| haleyb | i missed we even had it there... | 16:29 |
| njohnston_ | The OVN co-gating job is much more reliable now that it was | 16:29 |
| njohnston_ | *than | 16:29 |
| haleyb | i looked over 30 days and it was pretty good | 16:29 |
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| mlavalle | talk to dalvarez to remove his -1? | 16:31 |
| haleyb | ack | 16:31 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: it's bottom of hour, don't want to keep you | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | closing meeting | 16:32 |
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| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 11 16:32:37 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-06-11-16.00.html | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-06-11-16.00.txt | 16:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-06-11-16.00.log.html | 16:32 |
| njohnston_ | thanks! | 16:32 |
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| clarkb | anyone else here for the infra meeting? we will get started momentarily | 18:59 |
| corvus | o/ | 18:59 |
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| mordred | o/ | 19:00 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:00 |
| fungi | aloha | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 11 19:01:22 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2019-June/006399.html | 19:01 |
| clarkb | That is the agenda I sent out yesterday. We'll have a couple extra items compared to that that showed up late | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| clarkb | I'm going to be out next week so we will need a volunteer to run the meeting next week | 19:02 |
| clarkb | Also we started enforcing SPF failures on our mailman listserver | 19:02 |
| clarkb | I think fungi has decided that qq.com does have valid servers in their policy so we should only be dropping the invalid sources now | 19:03 |
| fungi | yup | 19:03 |
| fungi | so far it's really knocked the spam volume waaaaay down | 19:03 |
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| clarkb | yay, here is hoping we can stop blackholing the list admin addrs | 19:04 |
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| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:05 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-06-04-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:05 |
| clarkb | corvus was going to do something with the storyboard slow log data | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | corvus: ^ did that end up happening? | 19:06 |
| corvus | i ended up sticking the files in afs for the storyboard team to work with | 19:06 |
| clarkb | awesome | 19:06 |
| corvus | i ran a simple report and mordred gave suggestions on using a tool to do more investigation if warranted | 19:06 |
| clarkb | It sounded like SotK knew where to look in storyboard given what the slow log was telling us | 19:06 |
| corvus | i guess we should shut off the slow query log now though | 19:06 |
| corvus | before it fills the disk | 19:06 |
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| fungi | or at least truncate the existing one and gather new data now that a few changes landed over the weekend to smiplify a few queries | 19:07 |
| corvus | oh cool, given that, yeah | 19:07 |
| clarkb | sounds like a plan, thanks | 19:08 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:08 | |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:09 | |
| clarkb | ianw has some ansiblification work we'll talk about a bit later. Other than that any progress on other portions of this effort? | 19:09 |
| clarkb | sounds like no? Given that lets move on to the next topic | 19:11 |
| clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDev (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:11 | |
| clarkb | This is where I've spent a good chunk of my time recently in a round about way. I've wanted to rebuild gitea06 which we wanted to build on our control plane images built by nodepool. This led me to digging into why nodepool wasn't reliably building images an dthen why it wasn't reliably uploading images | 19:12 |
| fungi | and now it is! | 19:12 |
| clarkb | I ended up clearing out /opt/dib_tmp on the nodepool builders to free up disk space so thatimages could build again. In that process I rebooted the builders to clear out stale mounts as well, and that restarted nodepool which updated openstacksdk | 19:13 |
| clarkb | new openstack sdk couldn't upload to rax which was fixed by downgrading sdk and then mordred figured it out and fixed it properly in sdk so next release should be good | 19:13 |
| clarkb | oh also discovered we had leaked a bunch of images in the process which I've worked to clean out of the clouds | 19:13 |
| clarkb | and now ya I think nodepool is a lot happier and we should be ready to boot a gitea06 :) | 19:13 |
| fungi | after which time we get to find out what's involved in transplanting a gitea database? | 19:14 |
| clarkb | fungi: yup | 19:14 |
| * fungi hopes it's just mysqldump and source | 19:15 | |
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| clarkb | fungi: also possibly the git content as well so that we don't have to rely on slow replicatio nfor that | 19:15 |
| mordred | clarkb: the patches landed, so I submitted a release request | 19:15 |
| clarkb | mordred: cool we should probably plan to restart nodepool services once the new release is installed on the nodepool nodes | 19:15 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:15 |
| mordred | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664585/ for anyone who is interested | 19:16 |
| fungi | hopefully there aren't more regressions hiding in the recent sdk release we haven't found yet | 19:16 |
| clarkb | nodepool was updated to exclude the broken releases as well | 19:16 |
| corvus | as i understand it, this one was hard to find since it's particularly challenging to deploy a "rackspace" in testing. | 19:17 |
| clarkb | ya | 19:17 |
| clarkb | and it ended up being a really obtuse thing too | 19:17 |
| mordred | yah | 19:17 |
| clarkb | (type was wrong in a json document and srever only responded with a 400) | 19:17 |
| clarkb | Any other opendev related updates? | 19:19 |
| clarkb | #topic Storyboard | 19:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Storyboard (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:21 | |
| clarkb | We talked about db slow log data collection and recent improvements to that already | 19:21 |
| clarkb | Are there any other updates to bring up re storyboard? | 19:21 |
| fungi | new feature merged over the weekend to allow auto-assigning of groups to security stories | 19:21 |
| fungi | er, not assigning | 19:22 |
| fungi | so projects can have groups mapped to them, and if those groups are flagged as security type then they get automatically subscribed to any story marked "security" | 19:22 |
| fungi | there is also a distinction now between security stories and just normal private stories | 19:23 |
| clarkb | That means people will be able to see them but won't get email notifications yet right? | 19:23 |
| SotK | s/subscribed/added to the ACL for/ for clarity | 19:23 |
| fungi | er, that right | 19:23 |
| fungi | if the security checkbox is checked on creation, the story automatically starts out private and can't be made public until after creation | 19:23 |
| fungi | which is a nice extra bit of safety | 19:24 |
| clarkb | and we deploy from master too right? So these db fixes and new features should show up as they merge? | 19:24 |
| fungi | yep. we have yet to exercise those changed features on the storyboard.openstack.org deployment but they should be available now | 19:25 |
| clarkb | excellent | 19:25 |
| clarkb | Anything else? | 19:26 |
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| fungi | some of the changes related to that series cleaned up and refactored the queries used for private story matching | 19:26 |
| fungi | so hopefully at least some performance improvement there | 19:26 |
| fungi | there was also at least one unrelated change which merged that should have improved one of the db queries, i think, but now i forget which it was | 19:27 |
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| clarkb | Ok lets move on | 19:28 |
| fungi | oh, and i approved the project-config change today where karbor is moving to sb | 19:28 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:28 | |
| fungi | that's all i had | 19:28 |
| clarkb | fungi: mordred: any updates or things we can help with wiki and status upgrades? | 19:28 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/201808-infra-server-upgrades-and-cleanup | 19:29 |
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| fungi | looks like puppet may not be updating on wiki-dev, i need to dig into why | 19:30 |
| fungi | no mention of puppet or ansible in its syslog | 19:31 |
| fungi | oh, right | 19:31 |
| fungi | i keep looking at the original server not the replacement | 19:31 |
| mordred | clarkb: nope - I'm just failing at working hours at the moment - nothing about it will be difficult best I can tell right now | 19:32 |
| fungi | i think i'm now into trying to reconcile some missing upstream git repos for various mw extensions | 19:32 |
| mordred | (something something selling a house is more work than moving out of an apartment something something) | 19:32 |
| clarkb | mordred: I recommend you don't skip out on closing day (the people we bought our house from tried to) | 19:33 |
| clarkb | alright next up is the https opendev mirror situation | 19:33 |
| mordred | hah. yeah - nope, I'm ready to sign those papers and get that cash money | 19:33 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663854/ and parents to deploy more opendev mirrors | 19:34 |
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| mordred | (they walk in to the room with the entire purchase price in a box of $20s right?) | 19:34 |
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| corvus | it can take a while if you have to go to a bunch of atms | 19:34 |
| clarkb | we are still observing the afs failures (cache related?) against the dfw opendev mirror | 19:34 |
| clarkb | I think ianw intended on deploying a small number of extras to see if we can reproduce the behavior on them | 19:34 |
| clarkb | the change above and its parents should get us there | 19:35 |
| ianw | yeah, that's annoying; the hosts for that are up and ready | 19:35 |
| clarkb | This is mostly just a call for reviews and notification that the afs stuff is still happening | 19:35 |
| clarkb | ianw: oh cool, are they in dns and everything? | 19:35 |
| fungi | i approved all of the stack except the one that puts them into production | 19:36 |
| ianw | clarkb: umm, have to check the reviews but it's all out there | 19:36 |
| clarkb | k | 19:36 |
| clarkb | Next up is github replication | 19:36 |
| ianw | i guess i'll have to get onto building openafs from upstream and we can roll that out to a host and see if it's more stable ... | 19:36 |
| clarkb | ianw: ++ | 19:36 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-April/005007.html | 19:36 |
| corvus | mostly i wanted to find out if our attempt to get out of the business of dealing with github was working? it seems that many folks are interested in replicating to github, and they seem to be asking for our help in doing it. are people happy with this status quo? | 19:37 |
| clarkb | I think the biggest problem we've run into so far is people that want a repo org transfer but don't want us to have temporary admin on the remote side | 19:37 |
| mordred | I found a workaround for that which works | 19:38 |
| clarkb | When we do get our user added as admin the process seems to go pretty smoothly | 19:38 |
| mordred | that maybe we should update our docs to do? | 19:38 |
| fungi | well, and that people who want repo org transfers need our help to do it (unless we add volunteers to the gh admins group who want to take that over) | 19:38 |
| clarkb | fungi: which I think we intend on doing with openstack/ ? | 19:38 |
| fungi | yeah | 19:38 |
| mordred | which is - a) transfer repo to openstackadmin b) transfer repo to $otherhuman c) stop caring | 19:38 |
| mordred | $otherhuman can then transfer to their org | 19:39 |
| fungi | clarkb: i think that's the only one which matters in our case anyway | 19:39 |
| clarkb | mordred: and all of the redirects still work ya? | 19:39 |
| mordred | yes | 19:39 |
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| clarkb | cool. Given that maybe we should enlist some openstack volunteers, and write that process down then get out of hte business entirely :) | 19:39 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:39 |
| fungi | likely we need to ask the openstack tc to drum up some volunteers to take over management of the openstack org on gh now | 19:39 |
| corvus | in absolute terms, our interaction with github has increased dramatically, but it sounds like folks think this is a fairly time-limited thing still, and we should ramp down to zero soonish (like, this year)? | 19:40 |
| corvus | or what clarkb just said :) | 19:40 |
| clarkb | corvus: ya and for example with the repo renames we just did we didn't have to touch github at all which was great | 19:40 |
| fungi | i would like to ramp down to 0 much sooner than the end of this year | 19:40 |
| fungi | this month would be nice | 19:40 |
| corvus | okay, that mostly involves working with the tc to set that up. yeah? | 19:41 |
| mordred | and the opendevzuul app has moved to opendevorg - so there's no conflict there between that and a tc-delegated team managing the openstack gh org | 19:41 |
| clarkb | Considering jroll's preexisting involvment maybe we should hand over volunteer enlistment to jroll? | 19:41 |
| fungi | also we ought to figure out a timeline for getting gh out of our gerrit replication config | 19:41 |
| mordred | we should probably make an opendevadmin account and make the opendevorg org owned by opendevadmin | 19:41 |
| mordred | so that there is no remaining overlap | 19:41 |
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| clarkb | corvus: ya I think jroll is our contact on the tc to do that | 19:41 |
| corvus | mordred: ++ | 19:41 |
| corvus | okay, how about i take on the 'work with jroll' task | 19:42 |
| clarkb | corvus: wfm | 19:42 |
| clarkb | #action corvus work with jroll to get openstack github org self managed | 19:42 |
| corvus | i'll suggest that he enlist some volunteers to take over operation of the openstackadmin account, continuing the usage policy ianw & co established | 19:42 |
| fungi | sounds great to me | 19:42 |
| mordred | I can create an opendevadmin user - but I am not set up to do the 2fa setup any time in the next 2 weeks - so it might be an easier task for someone else - or else we can wait until I'm less snowed under and I'll volunteer to do the whole thing | 19:42 |
| clarkb | whoever sets up that account remember to make it an owner of the org(s) | 19:43 |
| clarkb | mordred: my guess is 2 weeks is probably a fine timeline for that | 19:43 |
| corvus | k. i'll make sure to mention we need to retain access until the opendevadmin thing is set up :) | 19:43 |
| mordred | k. I'll take the task then | 19:44 |
| clarkb | #action mordred set up github opendevadmin account for the opendevorg org and zuul app | 19:44 |
| mordred | that said - the people taking over don't have shared shell access to a vm with a shared secrets file that they can use to managed shared access to an admin account | 19:44 |
| clarkb | mordred: could encrypt it with all of their gpg keys or something like that | 19:45 |
| corvus | yeah, the discussion may involve more work than just a simple handoff | 19:45 |
| mordred | yeah - just saying - the openstackadmin design as it is now works for the infra team ... but yeah ^^ that | 19:45 |
| clarkb | This is our 15 minute time check. I think we need to keep moving to get through the agenda | 19:45 |
| corvus | i'm good | 19:45 |
| mordred | and for the record - I'm fine with however the new owners want to do things | 19:45 |
| clarkb | Next up we have fungi's topic for requesting spamhaus pbl exceptions when we boot new servers that send email | 19:45 |
| fungi | pretty simple reminder | 19:46 |
| fungi | rackspace has blanketed basically all of their ipv4 address space with spamhaus policy blocklist entrues | 19:46 |
| corvus | we could put a print() in launch.py | 19:47 |
| clarkb | Maybe we should add a note for doing that to launch node's ya that | 19:47 |
| clarkb | corvus: I think that reminder would help me remember :) | 19:47 |
| fungi | so when we boot a machine there which will be sending e-mail to a variety of people, need to query the pbl for its v4 address | 19:47 |
| fungi | https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/104.239.149.165 | 19:47 |
| clarkb | I can write that change really quick after lunch if others think it will be useful | 19:47 |
| ianw | ++ | 19:47 |
| fungi | and then there is a dance you have to perform involving getting a one-time code sent to a responsible e-mail address | 19:47 |
| fungi | and feed that back into the site | 19:48 |
| fungi | i usually use infra-root@o.o for that | 19:48 |
| clarkb | k I can add that info to the print output | 19:48 |
| fungi | probably any address would work, but if it winds up getting readded for some reason i don't know if switching e-mail addresses may cause them to decide to not grant a new exception | 19:49 |
| clarkb | well clouds do reuse IPs so we may run into that just in our normal operation of replacing servers | 19:49 |
| clarkb | but we can figure that out if we get into that situation | 19:49 |
| fungi | (spam reporting back to spamhaus for messages from an address in the exception list can cause the exception to get removed) | 19:50 |
| clarkb | Next up I wanted to make a quick reminderthat I'm going to replace certs that expire soon this week. I'll probably start the renewal process on thursday | 19:50 |
| clarkb | and I'll be getting 2 year certs for those | 19:50 |
| fungi | i ran into it in the wake of the ask.o.o server replacement, folks were unable to create new accounts because their e-mail providers were discarding/rejecting the account confirmation e-mails from it | 19:51 |
| clarkb | which will hopefully give us plenty of time to switch over to LE over time | 19:51 |
| clarkb | fungi: ah | 19:51 |
| clarkb | And last item we have is ianw's backup server and client config with ansible | 19:51 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662657/ | 19:51 |
| ianw | i just wanted to float a few things past the peanut gallery | 19:52 |
| clarkb | Looks like ianw plans to boot a new backup server running bionic and has questions if 1) we would like to keep not running config mgmt there once deplyoed and 2) if we want 2 servers | 19:52 |
| ianw | i plan to bring up a new server once the reviews are in on that ... rax ord still preferred home? | 19:52 |
| clarkb | we might consider vexxhost if mnaser is comfortable with that to give us geographic and provider redundancy | 19:53 |
| clarkb | but I think we do want at least geographic redundancy so ord seems like a good spot | 19:53 |
| ianw | yeah, the ansible is intended to automate key and user management, so adding a server should just be an entry in the inventory | 19:54 |
| ianw | i don't think we want to deal with stuff at rest in two places ... but we could | 19:54 |
| corvus | the main reason not to run config management regularly is extra protection in case of an error or compromise. granted, i come from a *very* conservative sysadmin background when it comes to such things. :) | 19:54 |
| fungi | i second that preference though | 19:55 |
| clarkb | being conservative with our backups seems reasonable | 19:56 |
| fungi | also keeping backups in a different provider from where the bulk of our control plane currently resides seems like a prudent choice in case that provider has a sudden and unexpected change of heart | 19:56 |
| corvus | agreed. if we have to pick one, i'd pick vexxhost. then rax-ord as a second site. | 19:56 |
| ianw | ok, we can keep the disabled policy | 19:56 |
| fungi | hoping that would never happen, but you have to have contingency plans | 19:56 |
| corvus | our original backup hosts were rax-ord and hpcloud | 19:57 |
| ianw | ok, i can reach out to mnaser and figure out where we might do it | 19:57 |
| corvus | so, erm, that plan has already served its purpose once. | 19:57 |
| fungi | except the hpcloud backup server kept getting deleted | 19:57 |
| fungi | i mean before the last time it got deleted of course | 19:57 |
| corvus | yeah. none of this is theoretical. :( | 19:57 |
| clarkb | We are just about out of time | 19:58 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:58 | |
| clarkb | Anything else really quickly that we want to call out before we have lunch/breakfast/dinner | 19:58 |
| corvus | clarkb: wow, someone's hungry! :) | 19:58 |
| fungi | #link https://review.opendev.org/664675 Replace the old Stein cycle signing key with Train | 19:58 |
| clarkb | Very | 19:58 |
| fungi | would be nice to approve that today so i don't have to rewrite the date in the change i'm going to push to release docs | 19:59 |
| corvus | fungi: at some point we should figure out what that process means in the opendev world | 19:59 |
| fungi | i concur | 19:59 |
| fungi | but this one was slightly past due | 19:59 |
| corvus | yeah, now is not the time for that :) | 19:59 |
| fungi | sounds good for next week's agenda | 19:59 |
| fungi | i'll add it | 19:59 |
| clarkb | and we are at time | 20:00 |
| clarkb | Thank you everyone! | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 11 20:00:11 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-06-11-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-06-11-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-06-11-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:01 |
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| epei_ | test my login. | 20:39 |
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| epei_ | No IRC meeting today? | 20:50 |
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| trandles | Hi janders | 20:52 |
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| janders | g'day trandles! :) | 20:53 |
| janders | how are things? | 20:53 |
| trandles | Busy busy busy | 20:54 |
| trandles | My summer intern arrived yesterday, last week I was away at meetings, work is piling up ;) | 20:54 |
| janders | here we're approaching the end of financial year - and moving offices at the same time, so I can totally relate to that! | 20:55 |
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| trandles | Sounds like fun janders | 20:59 |
| martial | #start-meeting Scientific-SIG | 20:59 |
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| martial | #startmeeting Scientific-SIG | 20:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 11 20:59:47 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is martial. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 20:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 20:59 |
| martial | Hello friends :) | 21:00 |
| trandles | Hi martial | 21:00 |
| martial | the topics of today's meeting are not posted (apologies) but were discussed in our Slack | 21:00 |
| martial | to cover: 1) SC BoF submission 2) Private cloud advocacy paper for research computing - resource gathering 3) Shanghai OI summit | 21:01 |
| martial | #topic SC BoF submission | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SC BoF submission (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:01 | |
| martial | so to remind people that the Scientific SIG Slack | 21:02 |
| martial | is at https://join.slack.com/t/os-scientific-sig/shared_invite/enQtNjUwNzU3MTUxNjAyLWU4ZWM2YzU3ZmMzYmZhYmMwYWRiODFiZWM4NTBjZDkyNjUyYzA0MGYwNDZhZWY4ZTY1NmFiNWVlY2U3ZDc1MzI | 21:02 |
| martial | Also Super Computing 2019 Birds of a Feather submissions are open | 21:03 |
| martial | I believe Mike or Robert were offering to work on the submission this year? | 21:03 |
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| martial | not sure I see either of them just now | 21:04 |
| martial | ought to follow offline then | 21:05 |
| janders | I've attended a few ISCs but no SCs | 21:05 |
| janders | what's typical SIG presence at the SC? | 21:05 |
| martial | Last year we had a succesful "Cloud Infrastructure Solutions To Run HPC Workloads" | 21:05 |
| martial | #link https://sc18.supercomputing.org/presentation/?id=bof113&sess=sess374 | 21:06 |
| martial | janders: will be at ISC next week myself | 21:06 |
| martial | members of the Scientific SIG are often present at SC | 21:06 |
| martial | and we try to get a BoF session to discuss capabilities and help user talk to us about how we can help them | 21:07 |
| janders | makes perfect sense | 21:07 |
| martial | think of the "HPC using OpenStack" panel we try to offer at the different Open Infrastructure summits we attend | 21:07 |
| martial | for people that are going to be at SC19, we invite you to reach out to us (slack or email might be easier) | 21:08 |
| martial | to discuss attendance and possible participation at the panel | 21:09 |
| martial | trandles: coming this year? | 21:09 |
| trandles | I'll be at SC19 | 21:09 |
| martial | cool | 21:09 |
| janders | conviniently, first time for a long time, it seems there isn't a schedule clash between SC19 and the OI Summit Shanghai | 21:09 |
| trandles | Probably on the full technical program | 21:10 |
| martial | I have reached out to Suse and asked about Nicolas Bock | 21:11 |
| martial | doing a quick follow up on this as I think about it | 21:11 |
| trandles | I can ping him too (he's local to me) | 21:11 |
| martial | please do | 21:11 |
| martial | with that, that is the status of the SC19 BoF; was hoping to see/talk to Mike/Bob | 21:12 |
| martial | #topic Private cloud advocacy paper for research computing | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Private cloud advocacy paper for research computing (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:13 | |
| martial | This is a call for participation to help your fellow stackers (and other private cloud users, including HPC) to explain the benefits (in value and cost) of a private dedicated cloud vs using public cloud | 21:14 |
| martial | we discussed this in particular during the Denver PTG | 21:14 |
| martial | we have a "hybrid-cloud-wp" channel on slack for people willing to participate | 21:15 |
| martial | the hope is to work toward a new edition of the SC book we did in the past | 21:15 |
| martial | and integrate it in there | 21:15 |
| martial | as well as update it every so often (6 months or so) | 21:15 |
| martial | if interested to participate, please reach out (email, slack) | 21:16 |
| martial | any input on this? | 21:16 |
| janders | I'd be interested in contributing to the new SC book | 21:17 |
| janders | probably not so much to the hybrid part - it's still very early days for us in that regard | 21:18 |
| martial | sounds like a plan; Stig was coordinating the previous iteration, so it would be good to work with him here as well | 21:18 |
| martial | we have to check with the foundation for deadlines imposed on us related to its publication | 21:19 |
| martial | as such, another thread to follow up on soon | 21:19 |
| martial | Last topic of the day? | 21:20 |
| martial | #topic Shanghai Open Infrastructure Summit | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Shanghai Open Infrastructure Summit (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:21 | |
| martial | Deadline is July 2nd | 21:21 |
| martial | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/ | 21:21 |
| janders | thank you for the reminder martial | 21:22 |
| martial | speaking of our usual "HPC on OpenStack", it would be good to know who is attending (same as SC) to coordinate a panel there as well | 21:23 |
| janders | do you know who's reviewing / can provide feedback on submissions from the SIG? | 21:23 |
| martial | We will also have the Scientific SIG meeting + lighting talks | 21:23 |
| janders | for Denver, it was Blair and Tim Bell | 21:23 |
| martial | I do not know; I tried to apply but I got the email from the digest AFTER the deadline | 21:24 |
| janders | I would be happy to contribute to the panel | 21:25 |
| martial | I will start a thread shortly to discuss this | 21:25 |
| martial | I do not know that all our usual panelists can attend | 21:25 |
| trandles | Sorry, on another conference call at the same time so attempting to split my attention. I'll email Nick Bock. I'm interested in contributing to the book too | 21:27 |
| martial | Thanks Tim | 21:27 |
| martial | Thanks Jacob | 21:27 |
| janders | idea regarding the panel | 21:27 |
| trandles | I will not be in Shanghai | 21:28 |
| janders | in Shanghai | 21:28 |
| janders | for those who are not allowed to go, what do you think about remoting people in with video? | 21:28 |
| trandles | Even video would be tough for me, notwithstanding the timezone issue ;) | 21:28 |
| janders | my specific concern was possible issues with travel approvals for those of us working for federal govt agencies (US, AUS, ...) | 21:29 |
| martial | I can send you a list of the non live questions and we can do a "best of Tim" | 21:29 |
| janders | but yeah timezone is a valid concern, too | 21:29 |
| martial | I know this one is going to be a little more difficult | 21:30 |
| martial | for those concerns indeed | 21:30 |
| janders | I think Shanghai is a great venue but political climate is getting more and more uncertain - we'll see where things are later in the year | 21:30 |
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| martial | what I can offer to do is email a few people and invite them to the slack channel I am creating right now for this topuc | 21:31 |
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| martial | done ois-shangai2019 | 21:32 |
| martial | need to coordinate within the next 10 days for submission in time | 21:32 |
| janders | agreed | 21:33 |
| janders | I've got an idea, can draft an abstract but it would be very helpful to know who to reach out to for feedback | 21:34 |
| janders | I shall ask in the slack channel | 21:34 |
| martial | join the slack channel, we will work with you there? | 21:34 |
| martial | also created sc19 in slack as well | 21:34 |
| martial | with that we are moving into the freeform / adlib section of the meeting | 21:35 |
| martial | #topic AOB | 21:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:35 | |
| janders | I don't have anything more for discussion today | 21:38 |
| martial | trandles | 21:38 |
| martial | ? | 21:38 |
| trandles | nope | 21:38 |
| martial | then, thank you gentlemen for your time and I am giving you back 20 minutes :) | 21:38 |
| trandles | \o/ | 21:39 |
| trandles | Thanks martial, janders | 21:39 |
| martial | #endmeeting | 21:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 11 21:39:19 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-06-11-20.59.html | 21:39 |
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