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mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 12 14:00:34 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 14:00 |
haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
tidwellr | hi | 14:00 |
liuyulong | hi | 14:00 |
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wwriverrat | o/ | 14:02 |
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mlavalle | good morning everybody | 14:02 |
mlavalle | goor early morning to you wwriverrat | 14:02 |
mlavalle | good evening liuyulong | 14:02 |
mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 14:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:03 | |
mlavalle | Reminding everybody that we are on our way to the Train-2 milestone the week of July 22 - 26 | 14:04 |
mlavalle | #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html | 14:04 |
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mlavalle | Also remember that the Shanghai Call For Papers deadline is July 2nd | 14:06 |
mlavalle | liuyulong and I are exploring partnering in a port forwarding talk | 14:06 |
mlavalle | it's a feature we haven given enough exposure to | 14:06 |
mlavalle | any other announcements? | 14:07 |
mlavalle | ok | 14:07 |
mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 14:07 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:08 | |
mlavalle | First of I have https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1824571 | 14:08 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1824571 in neutron "l3agent can't create router if there are multiple external networks" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 14:08 |
mlavalle | I thought I had fixed this one a couple of weeks ago | 14:08 |
mlavalle | however it still, under certain conditions, throws the execption, although functionality is not affected | 14:09 |
mlavalle | so I lowered the priority from critical and I'll fix it over the next couple of days | 14:09 |
mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1831534 | 14:10 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1831534 in neutron "[l3][dvr] with openflow security group east-west traffic between different vlan networks is broken" [High,In progress] - Assigned to yangjianfeng (yangjianfeng) | 14:10 |
liuyulong | It will be basically fixed in such way. | 14:10 |
mlavalle | we have a proposed fix here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663008/ | 14:11 |
mlavalle | liuyulong: seems on the right path, right? | 14:11 |
haleyb | so i guess we should close https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1831706 as a duplicate of that? | 14:12 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1831706 in neutron "[DVR] Modify `in_port` field of packets which from remote qr-* port" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to yangjianfeng (yangjianfeng) | 14:12 |
liuyulong | We need some DVR and OVS experts. | 14:12 |
liuyulong | Yes, we can track the issue in one bug. | 14:12 |
mlavalle | yes it seems so. in fact same person assigned to both | 14:12 |
mlavalle | ok, will take a look at the patch soon | 14:13 |
liuyulong | I'm testing the current code, it works. But we need more carefully about this to avoid unexcepted aggression. | 14:13 |
mlavalle | will you leave a note in the patch once your testing is done, liuyulong? | 14:14 |
liuyulong | The first version https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663008/4 can work with openflow security group. | 14:14 |
liuyulong | But when the openvswith agent disable the firewall, it will not. | 14:15 |
liuyulong | So current patch is mainly aim to this direction. | 14:15 |
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liuyulong | mlavalle, Jianfeng is my colleague. : ) | 14:16 |
mlavalle | ah cool | 14:16 |
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liuyulong | I talked with Slawek last week | 14:17 |
liuyulong | I wander if we can add some 'vlan' based tenant network test cases. | 14:17 |
liuyulong | At present, it seems unlikely that it is achievable. | 14:18 |
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mlavalle | ok | 14:19 |
mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1774459 | 14:19 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1774459 in neutron "Update permanent ARP entries for allowed_address_pair IPs in DVR Routers" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 14:19 |
mlavalle | We have a patch here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/651905/ | 14:19 |
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tidwellr | this looks to be in good shape, I was going to give it another pass before giving it my +1 again | 14:20 |
mlavalle | yeah, I'll do the same unless haleyb wants to be over it, since he already +2ed it | 14:21 |
mlavalle | go over it ^^^^ | 14:21 |
haleyb | i can look again | 14:21 |
mlavalle | cool, thanks | 14:21 |
mlavalle | any other bugs we should disucss today? | 14:22 |
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mlavalle | I take that as a no :-) | 14:23 |
mlavalle | #topic Routed Networks | 14:23 |
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mlavalle | This is a very popular topic from this meeting's past that is making a roaring comeback thanks to wwriverrat | 14:24 |
wwriverrat | lol... roar like a kitten | 14:24 |
mlavalle | as you all know, we have a spec in progress: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657170 | 14:24 |
mlavalle | and a patch that mostly covers the linuxbridge implementation: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/623115/ | 14:25 |
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mlavalle | I spent time this past weekend looking at the code from the OVS perspective and it seems to me not much is needed from that perspective | 14:26 |
mlavalle | so I am deploying it in a dev environment in my home office | 14:26 |
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mlavalle | and will make sure everything works from OVS's perspective | 14:27 |
wwriverrat | there *may* be more than the alembic migration for that. | 14:27 |
mlavalle | I also had a chat with ralonsoh (who usually attends this meeting) and he will look at it from the sr-iov perspective | 14:27 |
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ralonsoh | mlavalle, I'm still reading the spec and the SRIOV code | 14:27 |
mlavalle | again, at first glance, not much change is needed if at all | 14:27 |
mlavalle | ralonsoh: thanks. no rush | 14:28 |
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wwriverrat | for migration, I know we have some script link attached to the bug and maybe to to the review | 14:28 |
mlavalle | so we will have this topic in this meeting until we merge this feature | 14:28 |
wwriverrat | I started this to get some ideas out onto a sharable location: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_Mult-segment_support | 14:29 |
mlavalle | ahhh, fantastic | 14:29 |
wwriverrat | as for dev I'm at a decision fork. would like some feedback | 14:29 |
wwriverrat | one fork may break everthing, the other will be softer but not quite right | 14:30 |
wwriverrat | Code in question: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/cbee0f9f88ff34f70ff19590471b5405e06ff2a9/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/agent/_agent_manager_base.py#L62-L68 | 14:30 |
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mlavalle | right, we are touching an RPC interface | 14:33 |
mlavalle | I will leave a comment in the patch with my 2 cents soon | 14:33 |
mlavalle | \and I encourage others to do the same | 14:34 |
wwriverrat | something in there definitely has to change in order to achieve the one->many (network->segments) | 14:34 |
mlavalle | yes | 14:34 |
mlavalle | I remind the team that we would like to merge this by Train-2 | 14:36 |
mlavalle | anything else on this topic today? | 14:36 |
tidwellr | one loosely related item | 14:37 |
tidwellr | I've ressurected https://review.opendev.org/#/c/486450/ which would give us the ability to do floating IP's and other potentially interesting things on routed networks | 14:38 |
mlavalle | thanks for that | 14:38 |
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tidwellr | wwriverrat: I'd especially love your feedback on this | 14:39 |
wwriverrat | +1 | 14:39 |
mlavalle | I will take a look at the revised version this week | 14:39 |
wwriverrat | I see klindgren has already given a +1 in the past too. I'll look deeper | 14:39 |
tidwellr | I've re-worked it, so klindgren's +1 may or may not be valid anymore :) | 14:39 |
wwriverrat | sure. I'll poke him today to have him take another gander. me2 | 14:40 |
mlavalle | tidwellr, wwriverrat: are you guys planning to go to Shanghai? we could partner on a routed networks update presentation there | 14:41 |
wwriverrat | would love to, but not holding my breath | 14:41 |
tidwellr | not sure yet if I'm going | 14:42 |
mlavalle | after these two changes, routed networks will be feature complete and that merits a Summit presentation | 14:42 |
wwriverrat | I'll start the sell to the travel budget folk | 14:42 |
mlavalle | I'll put together a talk overview and send it to you for your feedback | 14:43 |
wwriverrat | awesome | 14:43 |
mlavalle | ok, moving on | 14:44 |
mlavalle | #topic On demand agenda | 14:44 |
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mlavalle | anything else to discuss today? | 14:44 |
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mlavalle | ok, thanks for attending | 14:45 |
mlavalle | o/ | 14:45 |
mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:45 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:46 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 12 14:45:59 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
wwriverrat | \o/ | 14:46 |
ralonsoh | bye | 14:46 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-06-12-14.00.html | 14:46 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-06-12-14.00.txt | 14:46 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-06-12-14.00.log.html | 14:46 |
tidwellr | bye | 14:46 |
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amotoki | haleyb: I left a comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1831726 I hope it answers the open questions. | 14:51 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1831726 in neutron "neutron-cli port-update ipv6 fixed_ips Covering previous" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:51 |
amotoki | haleyb: I am not sure we need more document on 'neutron' CLI as it is deprecated. | 14:51 |
amotoki | sorry, I used a wrong channel. I thought I was in #-neutron..... | 14:52 |
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jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 12 16:01:02 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:01 |
whoami-rajat | Hi | 16:01 |
smcginnis | o/ | 16:01 |
geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:01 |
m5z_|mszwed| | hi :)_ | 16:01 |
walshh_ | hi | 16:01 |
xyang | hi | 16:01 |
davidsha | Hey | 16:01 |
_erlon_ | hey | 16:01 |
jungleboyj | @1 | 16:01 |
jungleboyj | @! | 16:01 |
_pewp_ | jungleboyj ( ・ω・)ノ | 16:01 |
lseki | o/ | 16:02 |
_alastor_ | o/ | 16:02 |
davee__ | o/ | 16:02 |
jungleboyj | courtesy ping: | 16:02 |
jungleboyj | jungleboyj whoami-rajat rajinir lseki carloss pots woojay erlon geguileo eharney rosmaita enriquetaso e0ne smcginnis davidsha walshh_ xyang hemna _hemna eharney | 16:02 |
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enriquetaso | hi o/ | 16:02 |
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eharney | hi | 16:02 |
woojay | hi | 16:02 |
andrewar_ | hey, all | 16:03 |
e0ne | hi | 16:03 |
carloss | hi | 16:03 |
jungleboyj | Hey everyone. | 16:03 |
jungleboyj | Happy Wednesday. | 16:03 |
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jungleboyj | Looks like we have a good crowd so lets get started. | 16:04 |
jungleboyj | #topic announcements | 16:04 |
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jungleboyj | Just the usual reminder to work on reviewing specs and new drivers as we start approaching Milestone-2. | 16:04 |
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jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:train-drivers | 16:05 |
jungleboyj | I need to take a quick look but think the RSD driver is more or less ready to go. | 16:05 |
jungleboyj | I also have a number of patches to unsupport or remove drivers. | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cinder+branch:master+topic:train-driver-removal | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cinder+branch:master+topic:ci_unsupported | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | Please take a look when you have a chance. | 16:06 |
rajinir | o/ | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | Would be good to get those through before more merge conflicts come up. | 16:07 |
jungleboyj | Also, a reminder about the CI requirement for python 3.7 | 16:07 |
jungleboyj | #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html#t-cinder-py37-ci-running | 16:07 |
jungleboyj | Will start proposing removal patches for those not in compliance right after Milestone-2. | 16:08 |
jungleboyj | Think that is all I have for reminders/announcements | 16:08 |
jungleboyj | #topic Cherry Pick to stein: Fix shell upload-to-image with no volume type | 16:09 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Cherry Pick to stein: Fix shell upload-to-image with no volume type (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:09 | |
jungleboyj | Hmmm, doesn't look like LiangFang is here | 16:09 |
jungleboyj | Think that was just a review request. | 16:09 |
jungleboyj | I put my vote on it. | 16:09 |
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jungleboyj | Anyone have anything else there? | 16:09 |
hemna | I'll take a look at the rsd driver again | 16:10 |
jungleboyj | hemna: ++ Cool. Thanks. | 16:10 |
jungleboyj | Next ... | 16:10 |
jungleboyj | #topic Shanghai PTG | 16:11 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Shanghai PTG (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:11 | |
jungleboyj | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-June/007079.html | 16:11 |
jungleboyj | That e-mail went out yesterday. | 16:11 |
jungleboyj | So, we get to endure another long summit/PTG. It isn't clear, however, I think there is some overlap between summit and PTG. | 16:12 |
jungleboyj | So, maybe it is a day shorter. Not sure. | 16:12 |
jungleboyj | Not happy that they are talking about teams having to share rooms. That never worked well in the past. | 16:12 |
jungleboyj | *Sigh* | 16:12 |
smcginnis | Yeah, I think the middle day is split. | 16:12 |
e0ne | Summit: Nov 4-6, 2019 | 16:12 |
hemna | ugh | 16:12 |
e0ne | PTG: November 5-8, 2019 | 16:12 |
e0ne | :( | 16:12 |
hemna | another weekend PTG ?! | 16:12 |
smcginnis | Oh, two day overlap. | 16:12 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: Oh, that is better. | 16:13 |
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smcginnis | hemna: Looks like that's Mon-Fri | 16:13 |
hemna | ok, I hadn't looked on the cal. yet. | 16:13 |
jungleboyj | Given that the last day or so of the Summit was less useful. | 16:13 |
jungleboyj | So, I am just trying to get a feel as to if we could have a productive PTG. | 16:14 |
jungleboyj | Who thinks they have a chance of being in Shanghai? | 16:14 |
jungleboyj | Lenovo is planning to have me there. | 16:14 |
hemna | I'm less than 50/50 | 16:14 |
hemna | probably a no | 16:15 |
jungleboyj | Ok. | 16:15 |
whoami-rajat | I think i will be there this time. | 16:15 |
jungleboyj | :-( And doing remote will be rough with time differences. | 16:15 |
jungleboyj | whoami-rajat: That is good news! | 16:15 |
smcginnis | I *think* I'l be there. | 16:15 |
hemna | yah probably impossible to do remote | 16:15 |
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jungleboyj | smcginnis: You better be. | 16:16 |
smcginnis | I doubt we can stream using Hangouts. | 16:16 |
enriquetaso | :( | 16:16 |
m5z_|mszwed| | there is a small chance that I'll be there | 16:16 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok. I am working on getting Zoom. | 16:17 |
_erlon_ | smcginnis: we can stream, I thing is who will be able to join :) | 16:17 |
jungleboyj | I also have a VPN service that claims to work in China. | 16:17 |
_erlon_ | Ill probably be there too | 16:17 |
_erlon_ | ow, there's the firewall thing :/ | 16:17 |
* jungleboyj is not looking forward to being behind the great firewall. | 16:17 | |
hemna | yah, pretty much makes networking to the outside world useless | 16:18 |
_erlon_ | is there someone in China that can tell us what work what does not? | 16:18 |
whoami-rajat | smcginnis: the issues faced while preparing for denver summit gave me a good lesson to be probable everytime :) | 16:18 |
hemna | I have NordVPN, they claim to work inside china | 16:18 |
jungleboyj | _erlon_: Yes, I have coworkers there. | 16:18 |
smcginnis | _erlon_: Nothing Google or most social media. Unless you are on a mobile with a US sim card. | 16:19 |
davee__ | expressVPN and NordVPN work in China to outside world | 16:20 |
jungleboyj | Ugh, I guess PIA VPN is not longer guaranteed to work. | 16:20 |
smcginnis | I've heard VPNs that work can suddenly stop if they add more restrictions. | 16:20 |
enriquetaso | the big deal with stream, it's the sounds... | 16:20 |
smcginnis | I suppose we can still record and just publish after getting back over the wall. | 16:21 |
whoami-rajat | smcginnis: but then remote attendees can't have doubts and discussions real time | 16:21 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yeah, may have to do that. | 16:22 |
jungleboyj | Anyway, the other problem is that it sounds like we are going to have quite limited attendance. | 16:22 |
jungleboyj | This is going to make it even more important to get people to the mid-cycle if possible. | 16:23 |
smcginnis | ++ | 16:23 |
jungleboyj | So, two questions to the team. Do we want to plan to have meetings at the PTG? | 16:24 |
jungleboyj | If so, for how long? | 16:24 |
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_erlon_ | Next APAC summit should be in South Corea, close to China, Japan and has internet :) | 16:24 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 16:24 |
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jungleboyj | I don't think we need to request more than 2 days based on recent experience. | 16:25 |
jungleboyj | We are usually done/burned out by the third day. | 16:26 |
whoami-rajat | jungleboyj: also depends on the topics proposed? | 16:26 |
jungleboyj | whoami-rajat: True. Unfortunately we need to request space long before we will know that. :-) | 16:26 |
whoami-rajat | jungleboyj: oh. | 16:27 |
* jungleboyj is concerned by the silence from everyone else. | 16:27 | |
jungleboyj | 🥌 | 16:27 |
_erlon_ | jungleboyj: yeap, but considering the last summit, that we had a good attendance, and 2 days was enough. Considering less people, 2 days should definitelly be enough | 16:28 |
jungleboyj | _erlon_: ++ | 16:28 |
davee__ | shhh, be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting cpmference attendees (in Elmer Fudd voice) | 16:28 |
jungleboyj | 🦖 | 16:28 |
jungleboyj | davee__: He he. | 16:28 |
jungleboyj | Ok, so what I am taking away from this is that people don't know if they are going to be in Shanghai. | 16:29 |
jungleboyj | No one is saying don't have a meeting. So, I will request 2 days of PTG time. If no one is going to show up I will cancel. | 16:29 |
whoami-rajat | jungleboyj: ++ | 16:30 |
e0ne | jungleboyj: +1. good plan | 16:30 |
_erlon_ | sounds good | 16:30 |
smcginnis | I'm sure there will be folks there, just a question of whether there will be enough to be useful. | 16:30 |
jungleboyj | I will again make a plea to joing the mid-cycle if at all possible given that that should be easier to attend than the Summit. | 16:31 |
davee__ | Hong Kong would have been SO Much easoer | 16:31 |
davee__ | easier | 16:31 |
andrewar_ | mid cycle is in NYC? | 16:32 |
jungleboyj | mid-cycle is in Raleigh. Let me get the link. | 16:32 |
jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-mid-cycle-planning | 16:32 |
andrewar_ | thnx | 16:33 |
jungleboyj | Ok. That was all I had on the agenda. | 16:33 |
jungleboyj | #topic open discussion | 16:33 |
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smcginnis | There is an Ops Meetup in NYC that might be useful for anywhere where that's a convenient location. | 16:34 |
jungleboyj | When is that? | 16:35 |
andrewar_ | sept 3,4 | 16:35 |
smcginnis | Thanks, I didn't have that handly. | 16:36 |
smcginnis | *handy | 16:36 |
andrewar_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-2nd-2019 | 16:36 |
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davee__ | is there a link that shows all of the future meetings/sessions for all projects? I am limited in how many I can attend in a year. | 16:36 |
smcginnis | davee__: The only official ones are the Summit/PTG events, with teams deciding on their own whether to have midcycles. | 16:36 |
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smcginnis | It used to be more regular before the PTG. | 16:37 |
jungleboyj | Yeah. I am not sure if other groups are doing the mid-cycle. | 16:37 |
davee__ | thanks for the clarification | 16:37 |
jungleboyj | The Ops Meetups are semi-official too though. Right? | 16:37 |
smcginnis | Yeah, but also organized independently by the Ops Meetup team. | 16:38 |
jungleboyj | Gothca. | 16:38 |
jungleboyj | *Gotcha | 16:38 |
smcginnis | Guess you just have to watch for announcements to figure out what's all happening. | 16:38 |
jungleboyj | So, any other topics for today? | 16:39 |
jungleboyj | Lots of silence. | 16:40 |
jungleboyj | I am taking that as a no then? | 16:40 |
davee__ | OK, I'll bite: No | 16:41 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 16:41 |
jungleboyj | Glad to know IRC is still working. | 16:41 |
* eharney just submitted an initial spec on volume rekey if people want something to look at | 16:41 | |
davee__ | good practice for being behind the Great Firewall | 16:41 |
jungleboyj | eharney: Cool. Thanks. | 16:41 |
eharney | will post my starting-to-work code today too | 16:41 |
jungleboyj | :-( | 16:41 |
smcginnis | davee__: Hah! | 16:41 |
jungleboyj | Ok. So, I will give people 18 minutes back. | 16:42 |
jungleboyj | Thank you for joining the meeting and working on Cinder. | 16:42 |
jungleboyj | Talk to you all next week. | 16:42 |
andrewar_ | ++ | 16:42 |
e0ne | see you next week! | 16:42 |
jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:43 |
enriquetaso | o/ | 16:43 |
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woojay | + | 16:43 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 12 16:43:03 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-06-12-16.01.html | 16:43 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-06-12-16.01.txt | 16:43 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-06-12-16.01.log.html | 16:43 |
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whoami-rajat | Thanks | 16:43 |
davidsha | thanks! | 16:43 |
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diablo_rojo | The storyboard meeting today has been cancelled, if you have any questions or things you want to chat about, please join us in #storyboard! | 18:42 |
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timburke | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 12 21:00:21 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
timburke | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
kota_ | o/ | 21:00 |
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alecuyer | o/ | 21:00 |
timburke | i know rledisez and mattoliverau won't be coming | 21:03 |
clayg | i'm here | 21:03 |
clayg | lot of good it'll do | 21:03 |
timburke | agenda's at | 21:03 |
timburke | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:03 |
timburke | #topic Train cycle goals | 21:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Train cycle goals (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:03 | |
timburke | the TC finalized some goals for the cycle | 21:04 |
timburke | this is mostly just an FYI; there shouldn't be too much work we need to do for them | 21:04 |
timburke | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/train/ipv6-support-and-testing.html | 21:05 |
timburke | we've already got an ipv6 dsvm job; i think it's just a matter of ensuring that it's compliant with what they're looking for | 21:05 |
zaitcev | py3 or bust | 21:05 |
timburke | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/train/pdf-doc-generation.html | 21:05 |
clayg | py3 ipv6 opendev is the future! | 21:05 |
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timburke | it sounds like the docs team has already done a lot of work to make it easy for us; should just be a matter of tweaking our docs job | 21:06 |
timburke | and finally | 21:06 |
timburke | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/train/python3-updates.html | 21:07 |
timburke | which explicitly says that someone else will be proposing the patches ;-) | 21:07 |
timburke | thanks coreycb! | 21:07 |
timburke | good news there is that we already target py37 | 21:07 |
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timburke | who has questions about the goals? | 21:08 |
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timburke | who can spare some time to make sure we're compliant with what the TC wants and push up some patches if we're lacking? | 21:10 |
clayg | whoooooo.. @timburke throwing down the guantlet | 21:11 |
kota_ | is it hurry? anyway, I should go to look at the decision because of storlets... | 21:11 |
timburke | no big hurry, i think. i can track them for now | 21:12 |
timburke | i just also know that there's a bunch of stuff we want to get done *for swift* and if we can get this squared away sooner, then i won't need to think about it any more :-) | 21:13 |
timburke | next up... | 21:13 |
timburke | #topic Shanghai PTG | 21:13 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Shanghai PTG (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:13 | |
timburke | diablo_rojo sent out http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-June/007079.html with a rough breakdown of the schedule | 21:14 |
timburke | basically, Monday - Tuesday for summit, Monday - Tuesday morning for forum, Tuesday afternoon - Friday for PTG | 21:15 |
kota_ | and the ptg page was up to date, https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 21:15 |
timburke | project onboarding is getting rolled into the PTG portion, which i think is a good move | 21:16 |
clayg | kota_: easier flight for you this go 'round? Have you been to Shanghai before? | 21:16 |
kota_ | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 21:16 |
timburke | (i'm actually kinda excited about using the PTG as a kind of extended onboarding session) | 21:16 |
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timburke | thanks, kota_ | 21:17 |
kota_ | clayg: this is my first time to Shanghai but I believe it's easier than U.S. and EU | 21:17 |
timburke | it sounds like space is going to be tighter than at prior PTGs | 21:17 |
kota_ | #link https://app.eventxtra.link/registrations/6640a923-98d7-44c7-a623-1e2c9132b402?locale=en/?aff=Shanghaih | 21:18 |
kota_ | that is registration. I don't know what's VIP access tho | 21:18 |
diablo_rojo_phon | I'm glad you're excited about that timburke :) | 21:18 |
diablo_rojo_phon | I am too | 21:18 |
timburke | so i wanted to remind people of it so i could start trying to figure out what kind of head count we expect | 21:18 |
diablo_rojo_phon | VIP includes a VIP party if I recall correctly? I guess that's a typical thing in China. | 21:19 |
timburke | if you already know you will or won't go, that's great! if not, please start thinking about that :-) | 21:19 |
kota_ | OIC. thnks diablo_rojo_phon | 21:20 |
timburke | again, no particular deadline yet, but i wanted to put it out there sooner rather than later | 21:20 |
timburke | does anyone know for sure one way or the other yet? i'll be going | 21:20 |
diablo_rojo_phon | No problem kota_ :) | 21:21 |
alecuyer | We'd like to make it with Romain, but I don't know that we have official approval yet. I'll see if we can get an answer before Romain is off for a few weeks :) | 21:21 |
timburke | again, that's fine. good to know that you're hoping to go :-) | 21:22 |
timburke | all right, let's move on to updates | 21:23 |
timburke | #topic storyboard migration | 21:23 |
*** openstack changes topic to "storyboard migration (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:24 | |
timburke | last week, i asked that you guys play around in the storyboard sandbox, form some opinions | 21:24 |
timburke | how'd that go? | 21:24 |
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zaitcev | my Firefox didn't like it | 21:25 |
zaitcev | and then I forgot | 21:25 |
kota_ | i got a cert issue with the browser, is that expected? | 21:25 |
zaitcev | after raging on the social media for 10 seconds | 21:25 |
kota_ | mine is chrome. | 21:25 |
diablo_rojo_phon | yeah we know the cert is not happy. | 21:26 |
diablo_rojo_phon | It's fine. | 21:26 |
kota_ | i see | 21:26 |
zaitcev | Yeah, it's a self-signed cert. They used to do it in 2001. | 21:26 |
diablo_rojo_phon | It's on our todo list | 21:26 |
zaitcev | I thought in 2019 everyone would just use Let's Encrypt | 21:26 |
diablo_rojo_phon | zaitcev: we'd love the help if that's a thing you could get going. | 21:27 |
diablo_rojo_phon | ;) | 21:27 |
clayg | 😍 | 21:27 |
clayg | diablo_rojo_phon: we're better at the raging on the socme than the helping ;) | 21:27 |
zaitcev | word | 21:27 |
clayg | still you know... it raises ~awareness~ | 21:28 |
timburke | well, there's further feedback, i guess ... submit a story for it | 21:29 |
timburke | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/list?status=active&project_group_id=57 | 21:29 |
diablo_rojo_phon | clayg: yes it's definitely easier to complain ;) I'm quite good at it myself. | 21:29 |
zaitcev | Last time I had to use Let's Encrypt, I forgot that I must provide the fullchain in place of the cert, because they have an intermediary, apparently. Took me hours. The error was less than self-explanatory... | 21:29 |
timburke | #topic py3 | 21:30 |
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timburke | i saw zaitcev did some reviews last night, thanks! | 21:30 |
zaitcev | that's all I'm doing anymore, you're too good at coding | 21:30 |
zaitcev | I started looking at this memcache thing and already there's 2 reviews to fix it | 21:30 |
timburke | yeah... sorry, i kept finding new and different ways it was broken | 21:31 |
zaitcev | I want to get a full conversion and then package RPMs | 21:31 |
zaitcev | then functests | 21:31 |
timburke | but the good news is, i think we're about ready to land tempurl after all those memcached patches! | 21:32 |
timburke | at least, y'know, once https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664459/ lands to fix the gate | 21:33 |
zaitcev | So, we only have tempauth (might as well collapse the middleware dir in tox.ini), reconstructor, small things like locale, and then general issues like memcached. | 21:33 |
zaitcev | er, tempurl | 21:33 |
timburke | zaitcev, it actually collapses all of common -- https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652928/6/tox.ini | 21:33 |
timburke | :-) | 21:33 |
zaitcev | I'll be mostly on PTO this week though. | 21:33 |
timburke | and reconstructor should be ready -- https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652819/ just has the lower-constraints failure | 21:34 |
timburke | who can take on test_locale? | 21:35 |
zaitcev | I think we should make Train even if we find on-disk incompatibility. But we need to start testing and find it, if it exists. | 21:35 |
zaitcev | I can, I'm sure. | 21:35 |
timburke | excellent, thanks zaitcev! | 21:35 |
zaitcev | ok, gtg | 21:35 |
timburke | thanks for coming | 21:36 |
timburke | so, i think we should be able to have unit tests ported by next week. i want to do a release as soon as i can after that | 21:36 |
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timburke | in fact, i think i'll start working on authors/changelog while someone reviews reconstructor :-) | 21:37 |
timburke | #topic lots of small files | 21:38 |
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timburke | alecuyer, how's it going? | 21:38 |
alecuyer | I had to work on another project at OVH so not much news from me. I have started today to work on comments you made (thank you and kota for the reviews!) | 21:39 |
alecuyer | and, before writing more tests, it should work with py3. I tried that and it doesn't work, one reason being that I can't get an "old enough" version of grpc (to work with eventlet) | 21:39 |
alecuyer | so my goal next week is to have a patch to use HTTP instead. (I have one but it's not complete) | 21:40 |
kota_ | oic. that would be problem | 21:40 |
clayg | HTTP FTW! | 21:41 |
alecuyer | Yes it will work :) | 21:41 |
kota_ | and the gate for losf got an error at lower-constraint, you know timburke? | 21:41 |
timburke | :-/ i don't quite like that py3 would become a blocker... but i know we were hoping to get it to use HTTP regardless | 21:41 |
timburke | kota_, yeah, that sounds right :-( | 21:42 |
kota_ | not sure that patch to update the chriptography version would resolve tho. | 21:42 |
timburke | it's the cryptography problem. i'm trying to get it through the gate on master, then we'll propose a merge to losf | 21:42 |
alecuyer | you think I should move on with the tests and address py3 later ? | 21:42 |
timburke | oh. hmm... | 21:42 |
kota_ | timburke: ok. I'll keep to watch it. probably we want to port it feature/losf sooner as possible | 21:43 |
timburke | alecuyer, i'm not sure. but i trust your judgment | 21:43 |
timburke | would we collectively be OK with having it be a py2-only feature at first? | 21:45 |
timburke | i just don't want you to have to go down a rabbit hole when you could be doing more interesting/better things | 21:45 |
timburke | kota_, fwiw all the lower-constraints failures i've seen on losf look just like the ones from master | 21:47 |
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kota_ | timburke: sounds good | 21:47 |
timburke | well, py2-only-ness is something for us to think about. it might also be that moving from gRPC to HTTP would be a good way to get one of us who hasn't been looking at losf much involved | 21:48 |
timburke | alecuyer, thanks for the update! | 21:49 |
timburke | #topic open discussion | 21:49 |
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timburke | who has something else to bring up? | 21:49 |
timburke | all right, i think that'll do then | 21:52 |
timburke | thank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift! | 21:52 |
timburke | #endmeeting | 21:52 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 12 21:52:15 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:52 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-06-12-21.00.html | 21:52 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-06-12-21.00.txt | 21:52 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-06-12-21.00.log.html | 21:52 |
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