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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 04:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jun 14 04:04:39 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 04:04 |
| akhil_jain | Hi, ekcs | 04:04 |
| ekcs | Hi. Topics kept here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 04:05 |
| ekcs | hi akhil_jain ! | 04:05 |
| ekcs | how’s it been? | 04:05 |
| imsurit | Hey everyone | 04:05 |
| ekcs | hi imsurit ! | 04:05 |
| akhil_jain | everything ok! | 04:05 |
| ekcs | great to hear akhil_jain | 04:06 |
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| akhil_jain | Hows everything on your side | 04:06 |
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| akhil_jain | Do we have any topic to decide, today? | 04:07 |
| akhil_jain | discuss* | 04:07 |
| ekcs | things are alright! trying to prioritize things. always tough tension between new features vs maintenance vs driving adoption. | 04:08 |
| ekcs | I don’t have a specific topic for today. You? | 04:08 |
| akhil_jain | seems tense work :) | 04:08 |
| akhil_jain | Same, nothing from my side | 04:09 |
| ekcs | ok cool. | 04:10 |
| ekcs | I think I’m going to devote more time to documenting congress use cases and demos for the SIGs. | 04:10 |
| akhil_jain | thats great | 04:11 |
| ekcs | oh one update from me is that as I dug into adding more methods for congress-json to authenticate to external APIs, I found that the custom header fields already supported is enough to support bearer token and basic http auth. | 04:11 |
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| ekcs | so I think that’s not as high priority now. kubernetes service accounts are bearer token so already possible. | 04:12 |
| ekcs | Though there is some questions around support for authenticating with SAML sources. If a concrete need arises then i can prioritize that. | 04:14 |
| ekcs | so today congress-json can support getting data from APIs authenticating using keystone, basic http auth, and bearer token. some new code would be needed to support OAUTH or SAML. | 04:15 |
| ekcs | that’s an update from me. | 04:15 |
| akhil_jain | thanks for sharing i will try to use it and let you know if i fail | 04:15 |
| ekcs | oh just to be clear it’s independent of what you’re looking at. | 04:16 |
| ekcs | I think what you’re looking at is external service authenticating webhook INTO congress. I’ve been looking at congress authenticating INTO external service. | 04:17 |
| akhil_jain | oh right! got it | 04:17 |
| ekcs | yup! | 04:18 |
| ekcs | ok anything else on your mind? | 04:18 |
| akhil_jain | nope, nothing new for today | 04:19 |
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| ekcs | ok cool! | 04:19 |
| ekcs | I’m thinking if we should move back to weekly meeting just shorter. maybe we can think about that and discuss at some point. | 04:20 |
| akhil_jain | yes, i am ok with that | 04:20 |
| ekcs | oh imsurit didn’t see that you’re back. did you have anything you wanted to discuss? | 04:20 |
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| imsurit | ekcs: no its ok. | 04:21 |
| ekcs | ok cool. would you like to say a liitle bit about yourself and your interests? | 04:22 |
| imsurit | yeah sure. I have been involved in openstack as a Nepali translator since 2013. | 04:23 |
| imsurit | professionally I am a system admin who has to work in cloud every now and then | 04:23 |
| ekcs | oh wow that’s great! | 04:23 |
| akhil_jain | that's cool! imsurit | 04:24 |
| ekcs | imsurit: do you have any interest in congress policy-based management project? | 04:25 |
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| imsurit | ekcs: I am not much resourced to know about that. | 04:26 |
| imsurit | is it something like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy-based_management | 04:27 |
| ekcs | haha ok no problem! wasn’t sure if you were stopping by for the meeting. | 04:28 |
| ekcs | yes that’s the concept! | 04:28 |
| ekcs | here’s a decent intro: | 04:28 |
| ekcs | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/summits/denver-2019/congress-project-update-policy-triggers-for-your-cloud | 04:28 |
| ekcs | that I gave at the most recent summit. | 04:29 |
| imsurit | ekcs: sure will give you my opinion on our next meeting. I am always hanging around here | 04:29 |
| imsurit | I hope thats ok | 04:30 |
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| ekcs | ok awesome! yea there are many situations where congress can help automate decision making in clouds. when you have more thoughts we’d love to hear. | 04:31 |
| ekcs | we’re happy to help explore potential problems you have and see how congress may be able to help. | 04:31 |
| imsurit | thanks :) | 04:32 |
| ekcs | feel free to email the mailing list or me personally at ekcs.openstack@gmail.com or just discuss next time we meet on irc =) | 04:32 |
| imsurit | IRC FTW!!!! | 04:33 |
| ekcs | great. feel free to ping me any time =) | 04:33 |
| imsurit | will do that. Thanks again | 04:33 |
| ekcs | ok so I think that’s about it for today then. | 04:33 |
| ekcs | of course imsurit | 04:33 |
| ekcs | let’s continue next time then | 04:34 |
| imsurit | great meeting you and akhil_jain | 04:34 |
| imsurit | have a great weekend | 04:34 |
| ekcs | yup happy friday imsurit and akhil_jain ! | 04:35 |
| akhil_jain | have a great weekend guys, Bye! | 04:35 |
| ekcs | bye! | 04:36 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 04:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jun 14 04:36:12 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2019/congressteammeeting.2019-06-14-04.04.html | 04:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2019/congressteammeeting.2019-06-14-04.04.txt | 04:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2019/congressteammeeting.2019-06-14-04.04.log.html | 04:36 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jun 14 14:00:10 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:00 |
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| haleyb | hi | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | let's wait 1 more minute | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's get going. we need the minimum legally required quorum | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | #topic RFEs | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:05 | |
| mlavalle | well, maybe not.... anyways. let's start discussing it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1824856 | 14:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1824856 in neutron "[RFE] Add new state "ERROR" for HA routers" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:05 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 14:06 |
| yamamoto | sorry late | 14:06 |
| davidsha | hey | 14:06 |
| davidsha | also sorry | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | we have one RFE for today: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1824856 | 14:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1824856 in neutron "[RFE] Add new state "ERROR" for HA routers" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:07 |
| slaweq | so this was originally reported by jlibosva in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1574950 - but I took care of it recently and pushed it upstream | 14:08 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1574950 in openstack-neutron "HA router can become master but won't be reported in database" [Medium,New] - Assigned to amuller | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | This would be visible to the operator in the "status" attribute of the router, right? | 14:10 |
| slaweq | yes, as third possible state | 14:11 |
| slaweq | sorry, status :) | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | I think at some point we had something similar in mind, since the constant already exists: https://opendev.org/openstack/neutron-lib/src/branch/master/neutron_lib/constants.py#L402 | 14:13 |
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| slaweq | I wasn't even aware of this constant :) | 14:14 |
| yamamoto | how do you report error_message to api user? add the field to routers? | 14:15 |
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| yamamoto | mlavalle: it was used by vmware etc iirc | 14:17 |
| slaweq | yamamoto: yes, I think we can add some field like "status details" or something like that | 14:17 |
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| yamamoto | will it be machine-readable? or just for humans? | 14:20 |
| slaweq | yamamoto: what do You mean exactly? | 14:21 |
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| slaweq | are You asking about possible information in this new field? | 14:21 |
| yamamoto | something like sub-error-code, or some random text in natural language | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | well, it was added to Neutron here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/399505/ | 14:22 |
| slaweq | yamamoto: I was rather thinking about some text in natural language, maybe pass there directly error message from node on which it happend | 14:23 |
| slaweq | so e.g. info about "can't access file ..." or something like that | 14:23 |
| yamamoto | ok i got it | 14:24 |
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| liuyulong | All errors will be recorded, or there always be only one | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | and the constant was added for ha routers | 14:25 |
| slaweq | liuyulong: I don't think we should record all errors from the past | 14:25 |
| slaweq | so I was thinking about only last one | 14:26 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, I think the last one is the relevant one | 14:26 |
| liuyulong | Yes, this will be important, otherwise the database may not happy if we store large information | 14:26 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: but now this constant isn't used in neutron at all: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=ROUTER_STATUS_ERROR&i=nope&files=&repos= | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | oh I know | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | I pointed that out in the RFE | 14:27 |
| slaweq | yes, I see now, sorry :) | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | the way it was used was also related to ha routers | 14:27 |
| slaweq | yes, but it was used to show error on db level, during router creation | 14:28 |
| slaweq | and now we want to use during router's lifecycle :) | 14:29 |
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| liuyulong | So if the router is back to normal state, then we need to manually or automatically delete the error info? | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | I am good with this RFE | 14:30 |
| slaweq | liuyulong: I was thinking that it would be done automatically - in same way like now status is changed e.g. from BACKUP to ACTIVE and vice versa | 14:30 |
| liuyulong | Such as, a router admin state down-up can sometimes fix the router status. | 14:31 |
| yamamoto | mlavalle: there might not have been a neutron constant. but i remember some plugins were using "ERROR" for router status | 14:31 |
| liuyulong | yamamoto, l3_ha mode can now enter the ERROR state. | 14:33 |
| yamamoto | i'm fine with the RFE | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | yes, in the git history around this constant I see patches related to the decoupling of plugins from the neutron repo | 14:33 |
| liuyulong | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/l3_hamode_db.py#L421 | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | it was probably reintroduced by the patch above and then removed whent we adopted neutron-lib, which used another constant: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/489398/ | 14:34 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: oh, so ^^ looks that it's still there as in initial patch You linked earlier but now other constant is used :) | 14:35 |
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| mlavalle | the value is the same: "ERROR" | 14:35 |
| liuyulong | It should be fixed IMO, : ) | 14:35 |
| slaweq | yes, value is the same :) | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: what do you think? | 14:37 |
| slaweq | so in such case also we can put some detailed info in this new field :) | 14:37 |
| haleyb | +1 from me | 14:37 |
| liuyulong | slaweq, when or what's the proper time in the l3 agent side to automatically remove the error info? | 14:37 |
| slaweq | liuyulong: this error would come usually from neutron-keepalived-state-change so if this would be changed, it should be changed in Neutron's db also | 14:38 |
| liuyulong | So the original bugzilla bug says, neutron-keepalived-state-change may have some potential problem, so we will also rely on that to update the database? | 14:41 |
| slaweq | liuyulong: yes | 14:41 |
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| yamamoto | ERROR etc without prefix were originally for lbaas. i guess we can remove them at this point. | 14:43 |
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| liuyulong | One issue I can image is if neutron-keepalived-state-change does not spawned, error clean or store to DB? | 14:44 |
| slaweq | liuyulong: I think that now if it will not spawn, last status shouldn't be cleaned | 14:45 |
| liuyulong | Maybe I'm over concerned. : )_ | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | so let's move ahead with this RFE, then | 14:46 |
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| liuyulong | +1 | 14:46 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | That's it for today guys | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | thanks for attending | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | have a great weekend! | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jun 14 14:48:10 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:48 |
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| yamamoto | thank you | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-06-14-14.00.html | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-06-14-14.00.txt | 14:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-06-14-14.00.log.html | 14:48 |
| slaweq | thanks :) | 14:48 |
| slaweq | o/ | 14:48 |
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