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| fungi | just a heads-up that i may be late for the image-encryption meeting at 13:00 (have an early-morning errand) | 12:05 |
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| mhen | #startmeeting image_encryption | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 19 13:00:49 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mhen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: image_encryption)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'image_encryption' | 13:00 |
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| mhen | #topic Roll Call | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: image_encryption)" | 13:01 | |
| redrobot | 👋 | 13:02 |
| mhen | greetings! | 13:02 |
| redrobot | Happy Monday, mhen! | 13:03 |
| mhen | likewise ;) | 13:04 |
| mhen | just you and me today? | 13:05 |
| redrobot | I think so ... unless moguimar is around? | 13:05 |
| moguimar | o/ | 13:05 |
| moguimar | o/ | 13:06 |
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| mhen | yay, welcome moguimar! | 13:06 |
| moguimar | hey | 13:06 |
| efried | o/ | 13:06 |
| moguimar | sorry, I was busy playing with the Secret Consumers code xD | 13:06 |
| moguimar | distracted* | 13:06 |
| mhen | I already started wondering whether my performance last week was so bad I scared people off... :D | 13:06 |
| redrobot | 😂 | 13:07 |
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| * mhen is honored to substitute Luzi again this week | 13:07 | |
| mhen | okay shall we start then? | 13:07 |
| moguimar | yep | 13:07 |
| mhen | #topic Barbican secret consumer API | 13:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Barbican secret consumer API (Meeting topic: image_encryption)" | 13:07 | |
| mhen | so how is the consumer API implementation coming along? | 13:08 |
| moguimar | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674302/ | 13:08 |
| patchbot | patch 674302 - barbican - [WIP] Secret Consumers - 9 patch sets | 13:08 |
| moguimar | I think the model + alembic migrations are solid | 13:08 |
| moguimar | need reviews | 13:08 |
| moguimar | and I just found out there are a lot other files that I have to touch too | 13:09 |
| moguimar | in order to mimic container consumers | 13:09 |
| moguimar | but I'm in a good flow now with it =D | 13:09 |
| moguimar | so no big worries about the many files | 13:10 |
| mhen | moguimar, that's great! Thanks for the update! | 13:10 |
| redrobot | moguimar++ | 13:10 |
| mhen | #action mhen & Luzi, review Secret Consumers patch set | 13:11 |
| mhen | #topic Pending discussion points in abandoned Nova spec | 13:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pending discussion points in abandoned Nova spec (Meeting topic: image_encryption)" | 13:11 | |
| mhen | so the Nova spec was abandoned due to not getting a spec freeze exception for Train | 13:11 |
| mhen | there are still a bunch of unanswered questions/concerns which were raised in gerrit | 13:11 |
| mhen | since the review is now abandoned, is it still appropriate to post answers there? | 13:12 |
| mhen | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/608696/ | 13:12 |
| patchbot | patch 608696 - nova-specs - Spec for the Nova part of Image Encryption (ABANDONED) - 11 patch sets | 13:12 |
| redrobot | can you re-open and rebase for U branch? | 13:12 |
| * redrobot is not sure how Nova does specs | 13:12 | |
| mhen | I'm not sure either, Luzi might now more ^^' | 13:13 |
| mhen | *know | 13:13 |
| mhen | efried, can you comment on that? | 13:15 |
| efried | yes | 13:16 |
| efried | restore the spec (Restore button in the gerrit UI) and then propose a new patch set with the file moved to the backlog/ directory - or wait a couple weeks until we have an official name for U, then takashin will populate the directories for that name, and then you can propose it directly to U. | 13:17 |
| mhen | efried, are the old comments and patch sets kept in both cases? (so that we can directly follow up on pending discussions/questions) | 13:18 |
| efried | yes. And if you're lucky, gerrit is smart enough to understand that you've renamed the same file (rather than deleting and creating) so you can still see the delta from one PS to another | 13:18 |
| efried | but | 13:18 |
| efried | I would recommend doing the rename in one PS and any deltas in a separate one. | 13:19 |
| efried | Probably in the opposite order, actually. | 13:19 |
| efried | because then I can definitely look at the diff across those two patch sets and see what's been changed per what comments | 13:19 |
| efried | and then the rename PS is *only* a rename. | 13:19 |
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| mhen | great, I will note that down. Thanks for the clarification and tips! | 13:20 |
| mhen | I will discuss with Luzi whether we go the backlog route or wait for U | 13:21 |
| efried | If you have trouble restoring (it's possible only the author can restore? Not sure) let me know and I can do it for you. | 13:21 |
| mhen | efried, will take you up on your offer if necessary, thanks :) | 13:22 |
| efried | if our time zones don't overlap, leave a comment on the review and I'll do it asap. | 13:23 |
| mhen | we'll address the pending discussion points as soon as we conclude the restore process then | 13:25 |
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| mhen | #topic Renaming of 'os_encrypt_format' | 13:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Renaming of 'os_encrypt_format' (Meeting topic: image_encryption)" | 13:27 | |
| mhen | so there was some feedback on the Glance spec regarding our proposed image metadata attribute called 'os_encrypt_format' and its naming | 13:27 |
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| mhen | it's supposed the main identifier for the selected encryption method, e.g. 'GPG' | 13:27 |
| mhen | our spec proposes to use the set of os_encrypt_ attributes to find and select a suitable driver to compute the specified encryption | 13:27 |
| mhen | (similar to how secret orders are handled by Barbican in regards to driver selection) | 13:27 |
| mhen | so it's not the only attribute relevant for driver selection (_type and _cipher are also important) but the one with the most weight to it | 13:28 |
| mhen | concern was raised that _format might be a bad naming choice, which I do agree with | 13:28 |
| mhen | calling it _driver would be too specific I think, since the other os_encrypt_ attributes still play a role in driver selection | 13:28 |
| mhen | any suggestions or opinions on this? | 13:28 |
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| mhen | ... seems like there's no strong opinion on this one yet :) | 13:34 |
| mhen | I think I'll simply discuss this with Luzi again and we will come up with an alternative suggestion | 13:35 |
| mhen | #topic Open discussion | 13:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: image_encryption)" | 13:36 | |
| redrobot | mhen++ | 13:36 |
| mhen | Anything else to discuss? | 13:36 |
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| fungi | i'm around now, skimming scrollback real quick | 13:40 |
| fungi | but i didn't have anything to bring up | 13:40 |
| mhen | hey fungi :) | 13:40 |
| fungi | i second efried's suggestion to use `git mv` in a separate patchset from any content editing you do | 13:43 |
| fungi | also don't rebase the change if you can help it, or if you do rebase then doing that in a separate patchset with no edits (other than merge conflict resolution) too is helpful | 13:44 |
| fungi | but generally don't rebase a change unless it's in merge conflict with master or parented to a different change which has been updated | 13:44 |
| mhen | okay thanks for the heads-up! | 13:47 |
| mhen | anything else? | 13:48 |
| mhen | let's wrap this up then! | 13:49 |
| fungi | thanks mhen! | 13:49 |
| mhen | thanks for participating and have a wonderful week! | 13:49 |
| mhen | #endmeeting image_encryption | 13:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 13:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 19 13:50:02 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/image_encryption/2019/image_encryption.2019-08-19-13.00.html | 13:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/image_encryption/2019/image_encryption.2019-08-19-13.00.txt | 13:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/image_encryption/2019/image_encryption.2019-08-19-13.00.log.html | 13:50 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 19 21:00:10 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
| tidwellr | hi | 21:00 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 21:00 |
| mlavalle | ok, it seems that we are still in the summer lull | 21:03 |
| amotoki | hi | 21:03 |
| mlavalle | slawek and haleyb are off this week | 21:03 |
| mlavalle | so let's get going | 21:04 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 21:04 |
| bcafarel | yep, well deserved rest for them :) | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:04 | |
| mlavalle | the end of the cycle is coming fast. T-3 will be the week of September 9th | 21:04 |
| mlavalle | The PTL self nominations will start next Monday | 21:05 |
| mlavalle | August 26th | 21:05 |
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| mlavalle | This also means that the PTG is not that far into the future, so we have an etherpad open so we can start proposing topics to be discussed in Shanghai: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Shanghai-Neutron-Planning | 21:07 |
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| mlavalle | any other announcements? | 21:07 |
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| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 21:08 |
| mlavalle | #topic Blueprints | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:08 | |
| mlavalle | This is the dashboard that we are suing for Train-3: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/train-3 | 21:09 |
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| mlavalle | For https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-classifier-neutron-qos | 21:10 |
| mlavalle | We have this patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670050/ | 21:11 |
| patchbot | patch 670050 - neutron - [POC] Introduction of Neutron Classifier - 2 patch sets | 21:11 |
| mlavalle | please take a look when you have time | 21:11 |
| njohnston | I will get back tot he ethertype workt his week, had some distractions last week | 21:12 |
| mlavalle | I was updating it to good progress... | 21:13 |
| mlavalle | is that too optimistic? | 21:13 |
| mlavalle | ok, I will leave at that | 21:14 |
| mlavalle | any other updates? | 21:15 |
| njohnston | I'll be able to tell you next week ;-) | 21:15 |
| mlavalle | cool | 21:15 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on then | 21:16 |
| tidwellr | can we talk FIP's on routed networks at the end? | 21:16 |
| mlavalle | of course | 21:16 |
| tidwellr | sorry, broken record on that one :) | 21:16 |
| mlavalle | #topic Community goals | 21:17 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: do you have an update on PDF and docs? | 21:17 |
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| amotoki | we had a lot of discussions around PDF goal last week. | 21:18 |
| amotoki | most topics are common to most projects and I am using neutron as trial. | 21:19 |
| amotoki | I think we can move it forward in two or three weeks :) | 21:19 |
| amotoki | that's the update on pdf goal. | 21:20 |
| mlavalle | ok | 21:20 |
| mlavalle | Tnanks | 21:20 |
| amotoki | regarding py3 stuff, I think we are almost completed on networking-bagpipe last week | 21:20 |
| njohnston | For python 3 status in the stadium, networking-bagpipe has only one change left to merge - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/629174/ - and once that is done, all that is left is networking-midonet (yamamoto) and networking-odl (lajoskatona). | 21:21 |
| patchbot | patch 629174 - networking-bagpipe - Upgrade pylint to a version that works with python3 - 6 patch sets | 21:21 |
| amotoki | njohnston: some tox envs of netwokring-bagpipe still uses py27. I will clean up them after pep8 patch lands. | 21:22 |
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| njohnston | amotoki: thanks!! | 21:22 |
| mlavalle | bagpipe patch approved | 21:23 |
| njohnston | \o/ | 21:23 |
| amotoki | :) | 21:23 |
| mlavalle | are yamamoto and lajoskatona aware? | 21:23 |
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| njohnston | Yes, I believe so; lajoskatona provided an update at the neutron_ci meeting right before I went on PTO | 21:24 |
| njohnston | and I think yamamoto might have as well | 21:24 |
| njohnston | (memory is fuzzier on that) | 21:24 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 21:26 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 21:27 |
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| mlavalle | our bugs deputy was tidwellr | 21:27 |
| tidwellr | hi | 21:27 |
| mlavalle | here's the report: | 21:27 |
| mlavalle | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008589.html | 21:27 |
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| tidwellr | sorry for multiple copies of my update, SUSE email just switched some things on the back end now emails to the list aren't getting posted for some reason.... | 21:28 |
| tidwellr | so I tried every other email I had :) | 21:28 |
| clarkb | tidwellr: is that persisting? if so we should probably bring that up with fungi in #openstack-infra | 21:29 |
| clarkb | he was looking at a request from your mail server admins but they were giving us months old logs | 21:29 |
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| fungi | tidwellr: you had three posts, the first two were held in moderation because they weren't subscribed, the third one went straight to the list | 21:30 |
| tidwellr | clarkb: yeah, I know we opened a ticket on our end for admins to work through it, I'm not sure where that stands | 21:30 |
| tidwellr | fungi: you didn't see my 4th which was from my SUSE email :) | 21:30 |
| fungi | ahh, yeah then that one never made it to our mailserver | 21:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: which is what we suspected (that their secure mail gateway was eating them | 21:30 |
| clarkb | anyway #openstack-infra to debug further, don't mean to derail the meeting | 21:31 |
| tidwellr | yeah, anyway by process of elimination I found the other email which is subscribed to the list :) | 21:31 |
| fungi | yup | 21:31 |
| mlavalle | so it seems we had a slow week as far as bugs and all the bugs have been loked at, correct? | 21:32 |
| tidwellr | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1840638 | 21:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1840638 in neutron "network/subnet resources cannot be read and written separated" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to zhanghao (zhanghao2) | 21:32 |
| tidwellr | we should get some eyes on this ^^^^ | 21:32 |
| tidwellr | it was filed early this morning | 21:32 |
| tidwellr | I haven't been able to do much triage on it yet | 21:33 |
| mlavalle | I will take a look tomorrow | 21:34 |
| mlavalle | thanks for bringing it up | 21:34 |
| tidwellr | I'm looking at it too | 21:34 |
| mlavalle | other than that, the rest seems to be under control, right? | 21:34 |
| tidwellr | yeah, everything else was either completely fixed or is under control | 21:35 |
| amotoki | Looking at the patch proposed, we are using writer context for get_network(s), so it looks like we need to clarify why we use the write context.... | 21:35 |
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| mlavalle | anything else ob bugs? | 21:37 |
| mlavalle | on bugs? | 21:37 |
| tidwellr | nothing from me | 21:38 |
| amotoki | me neither | 21:38 |
| mlavalle | ok, our deputy next week is Swami | 21:38 |
| mlavalle | I just sent him a reminder earlier today | 21:38 |
| mlavalle | if you can, please ping him internally, tidwellr :-) | 21:39 |
| tidwellr | will do :) | 21:39 |
| mlavalle | #topic neutron-lib | 21:40 |
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| mlavalle | I don't think boden is around, is he? | 21:40 |
| bcafarel | does not look like so | 21:41 |
| mlavalle | sometimes he sends me an email with what he wants me to cover in the meeting, but not this time around | 21:42 |
| mlavalle | anything else to say about neutron-lib | 21:42 |
| amotoki | FYI: neutron-lib 1.29.0 is waiting for approval https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676271/ | 21:42 |
| patchbot | patch 676271 - releases - New neutron-lib release - 1 patch set | 21:42 |
| mlavalle | ok, I just asked in the openstack-release channel for an approval | 21:44 |
| mlavalle | thanks amotoki | 21:44 |
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| mlavalle | #topic On demand agenda | 21:45 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr: please go ahead | 21:45 |
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| tidwellr | I know FIP's on routed networks isn't in the list of BP's we're targeting for T-3 | 21:46 |
| tidwellr | as long as the approach I'm proposing isn't objectionable to anyone, I think it's something we can easily tie off before feature freeze | 21:46 |
| mlavalle | I agree | 21:47 |
| mlavalle | let's do the following | 21:47 |
| tidwellr | it would just require a neutron-lib change, and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669395/ | 21:47 |
| patchbot | patch 669395 - neutron - [WIP][POC] Floating IP's for routed networks - 1 patch set | 21:47 |
| mlavalle | tomorrow I'll look at the spec | 21:47 |
| mlavalle | and if everything looks good, we can merge it | 21:48 |
| mlavalle | and then we go with the patch | 21:48 |
| mlavalle | does that work? | 21:48 |
| tidwellr | mlavalle: yes. thanks for your patience with me on this one, this one has really has gotten under skin | 21:49 |
| tidwellr | I'm pretty jazzed about doing something about this, if you couldn't tell ;) | 21:49 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for the enthusiasm :-) | 21:49 |
| amotoki | could you share the link for the spec? | 21:49 |
| tidwellr | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/486450/ | 21:50 |
| patchbot | patch 486450 - neutron-specs - Floating IP's for routed networks - 14 patch sets | 21:50 |
| mlavalle | ahhh you beat me to it | 21:50 |
| amotoki | thanks | 21:50 |
| mlavalle | anything else we should talk about today? | 21:51 |
| amotoki | none from me | 21:51 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks for attending | 21:52 |
| mlavalle | have a great week! | 21:52 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 21:52 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 21:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 19 21:52:19 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2019/networking.2019-08-19-21.00.html | 21:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2019/networking.2019-08-19-21.00.txt | 21:52 |
| tidwellr | o/ | 21:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2019/networking.2019-08-19-21.00.log.html | 21:52 |
| amotoki | o/ | 21:52 |
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