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dkushwaha | #startmeeting tacker | 08:02 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:02 |
dkushwaha | #topic Roll Call | 08:02 |
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dkushwaha | who is here for Tacker weekly meeting? | 08:02 |
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joxyuki | hello | 08:03 |
takahashi-tsc | Hi. | 08:03 |
k-keiko | Hi | 08:03 |
nnsingh | Hi | 08:03 |
dkushwaha | hi all | 08:04 |
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hyunsikyang | hi | 08:04 |
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dkushwaha | hi hyunsikyang | 08:06 |
dkushwaha | #chair joxyuki | 08:06 |
openstack | Current chairs: dkushwaha joxyuki | 08:06 |
dkushwaha | joxyuki, do you have something to discuss? | 08:07 |
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joxyuki | VNF package spec was merged and niraj pushed couple of patches. | 08:08 |
joxyuki | kindly request you to review them. | 08:08 |
dkushwaha | joxyuki, nice. | 08:09 |
dkushwaha | I was on leave last whole week, so didn't check much, but have seen couple of WIP patches. | 08:09 |
dkushwaha | #topic Open Discussion | 08:10 |
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joxyuki | dkushwaha, posted a comment on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666496/ | 08:12 |
patchbot | patch 666496 - tacker - Adds support force delete for NS - 7 patch sets | 08:12 |
joxyuki | what do you think about it? | 08:13 |
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dkushwaha | joxyuki, not understand your comment | 08:16 |
dkushwaha | there ns is {'ns': {'attributes': {'force': True}}} | 08:17 |
dkushwaha | so kwargs={'ns': {'ns': {'attributes': {'force': True}}} | 08:17 |
dkushwaha | why to delete manually | 08:17 |
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joxyuki | dkushwaha, oh, sorry. I mean, "don't we need to set force_delete flag to mistral workflow created here?", otherwise, vnf deletion works without force flag. | 08:19 |
joxyuki | So, there is possibility that NS is forcely deleted but some VNFs are stucking. | 08:20 |
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joxyuki | in this case, users can manually delete stucking VNFs with force flag. | 08:20 |
joxyuki | But are you expecting this opration? | 08:21 |
dkushwaha | joxyuki, i think, I am passing it in expected way in line #923, but let me check it again | 08:23 |
joxyuki | currently force_delete flag is ignored in workflow of NS deletion. https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/tacker/nfvo/drivers/workflow/workflow_generator.py#L255 | 08:23 |
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tpatil | Just wanted to update about the vnf packages implementation progress | 08:26 |
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tpatil | We are writing the unit/functional tests now. Restful apis are implemented | 08:27 |
tpatil | we will update the existing patches by Thursday | 08:28 |
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tpatil | If you face any problems in setting up the env, please let us know. once the unit and functional tests are implemented, we will add the required documentation. | 08:29 |
tpatil | that's all I wanted to update here. Thank you. | 08:29 |
dkushwaha | joxyuki, I got your point, and yes it seems issue. | 08:30 |
dkushwaha | joxyuki, will update the patch. | 08:30 |
dkushwaha | thanks for your quick comment | 08:30 |
dkushwaha | tpatil, thanks for update. will review the patches | 08:31 |
tpatil | dkushwaha: Thanks | 08:31 |
dkushwaha | joxyuki, Please review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673404 | 08:33 |
patchbot | patch 673404 - tacker - Make non-admin's VIM accessible for admin - 1 patch set | 08:33 |
joxyuki | got it. I can do it tomorrow. | 08:33 |
dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, do you have some update from your side? | 08:34 |
dkushwaha | joxyuki, thanks | 08:34 |
hyunsikyang | I uploaded code as a WIP. | 08:34 |
hyunsikyang | and I finished test. But I think,, I should upload some test code | 08:35 |
hyunsikyang | right? | 08:35 |
hyunsikyang | And I will uploade user guide for this spec soon seperately | 08:36 |
dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, yes, adding test cases with feature is the best practice. you can also put them in separate patch set | 08:36 |
hyunsikyang | ok. | 08:37 |
dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, could you please share the link of your WIP patch(i think i missed it) | 08:38 |
hyunsikyang | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674761/ | 08:39 |
patchbot | patch 674761 - tacker - [WIP] Adding Multi-Interface for Containerized VNF... - 6 patch sets | 08:39 |
hyunsikyang | here | 08:39 |
dkushwaha | hyunsikyang, ok | 08:39 |
dkushwaha | thanks | 08:39 |
hyunsikyang | you're welcome | 08:40 |
dkushwaha | Do we have something to discuss? otherwise we can close this meeting | 08:41 |
takahashi-tsc | Our activities update. Now we evaluate scaling action and faced issues that mgmt_driver does not work. | 08:41 |
takahashi-tsc | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/576670/ | 08:42 |
patchbot | patch 576670 - tacker - when scale vnf , mgmt driver doesn't work - 4 patch sets | 08:42 |
takahashi-tsc | Above patch progress is now stopping... We will take over or make new patch for fix it, | 08:42 |
dkushwaha | takahashi-tsc, thanks for heading up for this fix | 08:45 |
dkushwaha | this is the long pending work item from vnf-scaling BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/vnf-scaling | 08:46 |
dkushwaha | Thanks Folks for joining this meeting. | 08:48 |
dkushwaha | Closing this meeting now | 08:48 |
joxyuki | thanks folks | 08:49 |
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dkushwaha_ | it seems i lost my connection | 08:51 |
dkushwaha_ | takahashi-tsc, thanks for heading up for this fix | 08:51 |
dkushwaha_ | this is the long pending work item from vnf-scaling BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/vnf-scaling | 08:52 |
takahashi-tsc | This fix is needed for our actual use case. We start to develop and I think we make the patch by this weekend or next week. | 08:52 |
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dkushwaha_ | takahashi-tsc, nice | 08:53 |
dkushwaha_ | Thanks Folks for joining this meeting. | 08:54 |
dkushwaha_ | Closing this meeting now | 08:54 |
joxyuki | #endmeeting | 08:54 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 20 08:54:42 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:54 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2019/tacker.2019-08-20-08.02.html | 08:54 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2019/tacker.2019-08-20-08.02.txt | 08:54 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2019/tacker.2019-08-20-08.02.log.html | 08:54 |
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ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 20 16:00:11 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
ralonsoh | hello everyone | 16:00 |
ralonsoh | both Miguel and Slawek are on PTO/other meetings | 16:00 |
ralonsoh | I'll need your help here today! | 16:00 |
njohnston | o/ | 16:01 |
ralonsoh | hi njohnston ! | 16:01 |
njohnston | not sure how many others are going to be here... :-) | 16:02 |
ralonsoh | Miguel asked me to do the meeting | 16:02 |
njohnston | but I'll help however I can | 16:02 |
ralonsoh | thanks! | 16:02 |
ralonsoh | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ci-meetings | 16:02 |
ralonsoh | ok, let's go | 16:02 |
ralonsoh | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:02 |
ralonsoh | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:02 |
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ralonsoh | according to the log, Miguel should be debbging this | 16:03 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1838449 | 16:03 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1838449 in neutron "Router migrations failing in the gate" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:03 |
ralonsoh | I'll try to ping him this evening (for me) or tomorrow | 16:03 |
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ralonsoh | next topic | 16:03 |
ralonsoh | #topic Stadium projects | 16:04 |
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ralonsoh | Python 3 migration | 16:04 |
ralonsoh | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_stadium_python3_status | 16:04 |
ralonsoh | njohnston, any update? | 16:04 |
njohnston | so the last job for bagpipe merged | 16:04 |
njohnston | but in the neutron team meeting amotoki said he would doublecheck other jobs | 16:04 |
njohnston | just to make sure | 16:05 |
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ralonsoh | did you delete it from the etherpad? | 16:05 |
njohnston | I believe I did that, but things might have changed in the intervening months, not sure | 16:05 |
njohnston | I'd like to leave it until amotoki is happy | 16:05 |
ralonsoh | we can wait until the next week for the feedback from amotoki | 16:05 |
njohnston | I don't see either yamamoto or lajoskatona online | 16:06 |
njohnston | for odl and midonet feedback (respectively) | 16:06 |
amotoki | njohnston: AFAIK bagpipe tox.ini has some jobs with basepython as python27. that's what I would like to clean up. | 16:06 |
amotoki | I will add info to the etherpad. | 16:06 |
njohnston | thank you very much amotoki | 16:06 |
ralonsoh | thanks amotoki ! | 16:06 |
ralonsoh | so today no feedback from midonet or odl | 16:07 |
amotoki | yw | 16:07 |
ralonsoh | ok, I think we can move to tempest-plugins migration | 16:07 |
ralonsoh | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_stadium_move_to_tempest_plugin_repo | 16:07 |
njohnston | fwaas tempest plugin migration is done, three cheers for slaweq for pushing that over the finish line while I was distracted | 16:08 |
ralonsoh | we have two pending patches | 16:08 |
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clarkb | did the midonet test jobs end up getting fixed? I noticed them because they were a large chunk of e-r failures for package installations | 16:08 |
ralonsoh | clarkb, I think midonet is still failing in the CI | 16:09 |
ralonsoh | I'll ping yamamoto | 16:09 |
ralonsoh | ok so we have two patches | 16:09 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/652099 | 16:09 |
patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652099/ - neutron-tempest-plugin - Move neutron-dynamic-routing BGP tests from stadium - 32 patch sets | 16:09 |
ralonsoh | for dynamic routing | 16:09 |
ralonsoh | and | 16:09 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/649373 | 16:09 |
patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/649373/ - neutron-tempest-plugin - Migrate neutron-vpnaas tests to neutron-tempest-pl... - 6 patch sets | 16:09 |
ralonsoh | for vpnaas | 16:10 |
njohnston | regarding midonet, I don't know if there was a successor to https://review.opendev.org/674313 after it was abandoned | 16:10 |
patchbot | patch 674313 - neutron - Fix networking-midonet CI job run on Neutron check... (ABANDONED) - 4 patch sets | 16:10 |
njohnston | tidwellr: can you comment on the neutron-dynamic-routing change? | 16:11 |
tidwellr | njohnston: sure | 16:11 |
njohnston | the vpnaas one has not been updated in 4 months so I think that is getting stale | 16:11 |
tidwellr | for some reason we are uncovering some race conditions that cause test failures | 16:12 |
ralonsoh | njohnston, I would like to take care of the last one, but not this week | 16:12 |
ralonsoh | but let's ping mlavalle for this, because he is the owner | 16:12 |
ralonsoh | ok, something else in this topic (Stadium projects)? | 16:13 |
tidwellr | there are also some weird setup and tear down things going on with the neutron-dynamic-routing change. I've tried to avoid creating separate jobs to address this since that adds a lot of overhead, but that may be the best way forward for now | 16:13 |
ralonsoh | tidwellr, but what is still failing in this patch? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652099 | 16:14 |
patchbot | patch 652099 - neutron-tempest-plugin - Move neutron-dynamic-routing BGP tests from stadium - 32 patch sets | 16:14 |
tidwellr | these failures are related to those race conditions in the tests themselves | 16:15 |
ralonsoh | ok, I see | 16:16 |
tidwellr | there is an auto-scheduling mechanism that the tests asserting unscheduling of BGP speakers don't account for | 16:16 |
tidwellr | not sure why it's an issue all of a sudden, we haven't had problems with this in the neutron-dynamic-routing jobs before | 16:17 |
tidwellr | the stars have aligned I suppose | 16:17 |
ralonsoh | as you said, the test execution ordering maybe | 16:17 |
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tidwellr | that wouldn't cause the things I'm seeing | 16:18 |
tidwellr | the test unschedules a BGP speaker and the auto-scheduler puts it back before the test gets to assert peering status if offline | 16:19 |
tidwellr | that's not related to test ordering, that's a problem with the tests themselves | 16:19 |
ralonsoh | you are talking about https://logs.opendev.org/99/652099/32/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dynamic-routing-bgp-basic/f5ab227/testr_results.html.gz | 16:19 |
ralonsoh | test_check_advertised_multiple_tenant_network | 16:19 |
tidwellr | correct | 16:20 |
tidwellr | that race condition is what is causing this failure | 16:20 |
ralonsoh | tidwellr, I'll try to take a look at this tomorrow morning | 16:21 |
tidwellr | I think I can fix it,it involves changing the assertions made by the test | 16:21 |
tidwellr | I've been on vacation and drowning in other things recently | 16:22 |
ralonsoh | no problem | 16:22 |
tidwellr | but I'm getting back on track this week so I can move this forward | 16:22 |
ralonsoh | thank you! | 16:22 |
ralonsoh | ok, so no more agenda on this topic, let's move to the next one | 16:23 |
ralonsoh | #topic Grafana | 16:23 |
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ralonsoh | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:23 |
ralonsoh | I was on PTO last week | 16:23 |
ralonsoh | are you aware of something abnormal last week? | 16:24 |
njohnston | wow, has nothing run through the gate since Sunday? That seems unlikely. | 16:24 |
ralonsoh | hmmm or we didn't merge anything or the jobs are stuck | 16:25 |
njohnston | looks like the postgres periodic job is having an issue | 16:25 |
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njohnston | also I don't like how 25% to 50% is the new normal for the functional jobs these days | 16:26 |
njohnston | at least since 8/16 | 16:26 |
ralonsoh | njohnston, you are right, it's quite high | 16:26 |
njohnston | the tox-cover job shows the same curve I believe | 16:27 |
ralonsoh | njohnston, the functional failures are py27 | 16:27 |
ralonsoh | not py3 | 16:27 |
njohnston | so right now the neutron-functional-python27 job is at 38% fail but the py3 neutron-functional job is at 35% | 16:28 |
njohnston | so I disagree that this is py27-only | 16:28 |
ralonsoh | let me see the historical of neutron patches and CI results | 16:29 |
ralonsoh | if I see a pattern there, I'll open a bug | 16:30 |
njohnston | thanks! | 16:30 |
ralonsoh | (sorry but I didn't review that in advance) | 16:30 |
ralonsoh | how do I write an action?? | 16:30 |
njohnston | np, I didn't either (although I was surprised we were having a meeting) | 16:30 |
njohnston | do #action ralonsoh to do this and that | 16:30 |
ralonsoh | #action ralonsoh to review the CI (functional tests), search for error patterns and open bugs if needed | 16:31 |
ralonsoh | njohnston, do you have time today (or tomorrow) to take a look at the postgress-full errors? | 16:32 |
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ralonsoh | ok, let's move to the next topic then | 16:34 |
ralonsoh | #topic fullstack/functional | 16:34 |
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ralonsoh | there is nothing in the agenda | 16:34 |
ralonsoh | do you want to add something here? | 16:34 |
njohnston | I think we covered it already | 16:35 |
ralonsoh | perfect | 16:35 |
njohnston | I'll try to get a look at the postgres errors yes | 16:35 |
ralonsoh | next topic then | 16:35 |
ralonsoh | #topic Tempest/Scenario | 16:35 |
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njohnston | #action njohnston to look at errors in the neutron-tempest-postgres-full periodic job | 16:35 |
ralonsoh | slawek opened a bug for nova last week | 16:35 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1839961 | 16:35 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1669468 in devstack "duplicate for #1839961 tempest.api.compute.servers.test_novnc.NoVNCConsoleTestJSON.test_novnc fails intermittently in neutron multinode nv job" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to melanie witt (melwitt) | 16:35 |
ralonsoh | looks like this a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1669468 | 16:36 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1669468 in devstack "tempest.api.compute.servers.test_novnc.NoVNCConsoleTestJSON.test_novnc fails intermittently in neutron multinode nv job" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to melanie witt (melwitt) | 16:36 |
ralonsoh | and there is a patch merged | 16:36 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675721/ | 16:36 |
patchbot | patch 675721 - devstack - Set console server host/address in nova-cpu.conf f... (MERGED) - 4 patch sets | 16:36 |
ralonsoh | I'll comment this in slawek's patch | 16:36 |
njohnston | and multinode scenario failure are down to below 50% which is great | 16:37 |
ralonsoh | you are better than me reviewing this grafana dashboard (I usually wait for slawek to send me the bugs hehehehe) | 16:38 |
njohnston | :-) long years of ops experience | 16:38 |
ralonsoh | so, something else on the dashboard? | 16:39 |
njohnston | nothing from me | 16:39 |
ralonsoh | perfect! | 16:39 |
ralonsoh | ok, so last topic | 16:39 |
ralonsoh | #topic Open discussion | 16:39 |
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ralonsoh | I had a fantastic PTO! | 16:40 |
ralonsoh | last week | 16:40 |
ralonsoh | that's all from me | 16:40 |
njohnston | congrats! I had a fantastic one the week before. | 16:40 |
ralonsoh | hehehe | 16:40 |
njohnston | So you and I, neither of us is going to Shanghai, right? | 16:41 |
ralonsoh | right | 16:41 |
njohnston | I'll ping mlavalle again for arrangements for remote participation | 16:41 |
ralonsoh | yes, that will be very useful | 16:41 |
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njohnston | ok that's all from me | 16:42 |
ralonsoh | ok, sorry for being so newbie chairing this meeting, that's my first time | 16:42 |
ralonsoh | thank you all | 16:42 |
njohnston | o/ | 16:42 |
ralonsoh | see you in #openstack-neutron | 16:42 |
ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 20 16:42:43 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:42 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-08-20-16.00.html | 16:42 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-08-20-16.00.txt | 16:42 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-08-20-16.00.log.html | 16:42 |
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corvus | o/ | 18:59 |
clarkb | Hello there. Anyone else here for the meeting? | 19:00 |
fungi | moshi-moshi | 19:00 |
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clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 20 19:01:11 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
ianw | o/ | 19:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2019-August/006452.html Our Agenda | 19:01 |
clarkb | thank you ianw for running the meeting last week | 19:01 |
clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
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clarkb | This wasn't on the agenda but you have a handful of hours left to vote on the openstack U naming poll if you would like to do so before it ends | 19:02 |
clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:03 |
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clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-08-13-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:03 |
clarkb | I didn't see any actions in the meeting notes | 19:03 |
clarkb | ianw: ^ anything to point out here before we move on? | 19:03 |
ianw | no it was fairly quiet | 19:03 |
clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:04 |
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clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:04 |
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clarkb | I've made some minor progress on having gitea timeout requests. | 19:04 |
clarkb | #link https://github.com/cboylan/gitea/commit/d11d4dab34f769f3ba4589bb938a2dbd09ff8b3a | 19:05 |
clarkb | It turns out that gitea's http framework is not directly compatible with golang's http lib beacuse they use a context type that doesn't conform to the standard | 19:05 |
clarkb | They do drag along the underlying http stdlib request's context though so we can update that and get it to do things | 19:05 |
corvus | oh "neat" | 19:06 |
clarkb | However the http.TimeoutHandler is a bit more robust than what I have there and I'm not sure how much of that I can replicate within the macaron framework so this might get clunky (probably largely due to my lack of go knowledge) | 19:06 |
clarkb | in any case that now builds and seems to work in the job we have. Next I need to exercise that it times out long requests as expected | 19:07 |
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clarkb | corvus: ya my understanding of the correct way to implement that is to have a context type that implements the standard interface while adding the bits you want in addition to that | 19:08 |
clarkb | corvus: then you can use stdlib handlers like the timeout handler but also track application specific info | 19:08 |
clarkb | instead they track the request as an attribute of the context object and that request object has the standard matching context object | 19:08 |
clarkb | I was also thinking that I might want to file an issue with them and share what I have so far and see if they can point me in a better direction if one exists | 19:09 |
clarkb | any other opendev specific items to talk about before we move on? | 19:10 |
fungi | too bad github doesn't have a "wip" flag for pull requests | 19:10 |
corvus | the gitea folks use [wip] in the summary (much like we do) | 19:11 |
fungi | ahh, heh | 19:11 |
fungi | then yeah, seeking their input with what you already have sounds like a great option | 19:12 |
clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:14 |
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clarkb | corvus: should we talk about the intermediate registry here? | 19:15 |
clarkb | aiui the swift backend for the intermediate docker registry loses blobs | 19:15 |
clarkb | and then our jobs that rely on working docker images fail because tehy can't get the layer(s) they need | 19:15 |
corvus | oh yeah | 19:15 |
corvus | we're seeing this even in moderate use of the intermediate registry | 19:16 |
corvus | especially if there's a patch series | 19:16 |
corvus | (it could be happening with image promotion too, we may just not notice as much) | 19:16 |
corvus | the logical thing to do would be intensive debugging of the problem resulting in a patch to docker | 19:16 |
fungi | so the registry itself is losing track of the swift objects? i'd be surprised if swift is losing those itself | 19:17 |
corvus | afaict, the registry is inserting 0-byte objects in swift | 19:17 |
fungi | ouch | 19:17 |
corvus | no idea what's up with that | 19:17 |
corvus | the nice thing is it's easy to verify we're seeing the same problem (all zero byte objects have the same sha256sum value :) | 19:17 |
fungi | indeed | 19:18 |
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corvus | there's a lot of things we would like the registry to do which it doesn't -- authentication only for writes, pass-through to dockerhub, support for pass-through to multiple registries... | 19:18 |
corvus | so i'm seriously inclined to solve this by writing a new registry shadowing system from scratch | 19:19 |
clarkb | I remember pulp saying they support docker image registries as one of their archives | 19:19 |
clarkb | (that might be another option to look at) | 19:19 |
corvus | ooh, well remembered | 19:20 |
clarkb | https://pulpproject.org/ for those that may not be familiar | 19:20 |
clarkb | https://docs.pulpproject.org/plugins/crane/index.html is something pulp points at | 19:21 |
clarkb | that may be too simple for what we want though (crane not pulp) | 19:21 |
corvus | yeah, we do need to write to it | 19:21 |
clarkb | if anyone else knows of alternative options they are probably worth sharing. Like what does openshift run? | 19:22 |
corvus | i believe we learned that running openshift container registry does require running it in openshift | 19:24 |
clarkb | ah | 19:24 |
corvus | https://docs.openshift.com/container-platform/3.5/install_config/install/stand_alone_registry.html#install-config-installing-stand-alone-registry | 19:24 |
clarkb | Alright we probably won't solve that problem in the meeting. But wanted to call it out as it seems like the kind of problem where someone might already know of a preexisting solution (surely we aren't the only people that want to run a docker registry that reliably serves data) | 19:25 |
corvus | i mean, it'd be better for everyone if docker registry did support swift without flaws | 19:25 |
clarkb | ++ | 19:25 |
corvus | but my enthusiasm for fixing that bug without addressing all the other things is limited | 19:26 |
corvus | (also, to be fair, i'm not sure we've eliminated the possibility that skopeo is to blame) | 19:27 |
corvus | (it seems highly unlikely though) | 19:27 |
corvus | i don't think the logging available is adequate | 19:27 |
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clarkb | Anything else on this topic or should we moev on? | 19:29 |
clarkb | sounds like that is it. | 19:30 |
clarkb | #topic Storyboard | 19:30 |
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clarkb | diablo_rojo: fungi: you were both distracted with meetings all last week, but anything to bring up re storyboard | 19:30 |
fungi | i got nuthin' | 19:31 |
diablo_rojo | I remembered to bother mordred twice about db stuff but I don't think he had time to do anything yet | 19:32 |
diablo_rojo | mordred, shall I keep poking? | 19:32 |
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diablo_rojo | I didn't have anything else | 19:32 |
clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:33 |
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clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/201808-infra-server-upgrades-and-cleanup | 19:33 |
clarkb | job logs are now in swift | 19:33 |
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clarkb | I think that leaves tarballs on static.o.o ? | 19:34 |
clarkb | corvus had set up afs based tarballs.opendev.org | 19:34 |
fungi | well, it also leaves a bunch of our static sites content | 19:34 |
fungi | security, governance, releases, and so on | 19:34 |
clarkb | fungi: oh I thought that was all on files.openstack.org now | 19:34 |
clarkb | DNS says I'm wrong | 19:34 |
fungi | governance.openstack.org is an alias for static.openstack.org. | 19:34 |
fungi | et cetera | 19:34 |
fungi | also we still have some logs on static.o.o until they age out | 19:35 |
clarkb | /srv/static has ci election governance logs lost+found mirror old-docs-draft old-pypi release release.new releases reviewday security service-types sigs specs status tarballs tc uc | 19:35 |
clarkb | fungi: ya ~4 weeks iirc | 19:36 |
clarkb | One option is to upgrade the server with a much simpler lvm setup as we'll not need to worry about massive impact to job results | 19:36 |
clarkb | or we can try to push that content onto files.o.o instead | 19:36 |
fungi | some of those are dead (mirror, old-pypi, old-docs-draft, ...), some are just redirects (ci), some are mapped into subtrees of the same vhosts (governance, sigs, tc, uc) | 19:37 |
fungi | so the list looks more daunting than it really is | 19:37 |
ianw | i don't mind taking an action item to audit it all and report back with a list of work? | 19:37 |
fungi | also, yeah, we can pvmove everything left onto a single volume, for starters, and then swap it for a smaller volume if we wanrt | 19:38 |
clarkb | ianw: that would be great | 19:38 |
fungi | thanks ianw! | 19:38 |
corvus | also, i think all the mechanicas are worked out, so moving them to afs probably wouldn't be too difficult | 19:38 |
corvus | mechanics even | 19:38 |
clarkb | #action ianw audit static.openstack.org webserver content and create a list of work to either get off the server or upgrade the server now that job logs are not hosted there (or won't be in 4 weeks) | 19:38 |
ianw | ++ that was what i thought when i had a quick poke a couple of weeks ago, but will take a more systematic look | 19:39 |
fungi | right, the fiddly bits will be redirecting or mapping openstack tarballs since they're published without a namespace prefix, doing something akin to root-marker with stuff like the governance site which is published by stitching together multiple repos... | 19:39 |
clarkb | The other related item on this is getting wiki-dev working | 19:40 |
clarkb | fungi: ^ I doubt you had much time for that last week. Anything to point out there? | 19:40 |
fungi | ianw: if you want to start by just tossing it all into an etherpad i'm happy to flag some stuff in the list too | 19:40 |
fungi | yeah, there's some wiki-dev updates actually | 19:41 |
fungi | first, i've updated the cname for wiki-dev.openstack.org to point to the new wiki-dev03 server for ease of testing. it's not like the old one was in perfect shape either | 19:41 |
fungi | (also because i got tired of editing my /etc/hosts on multiple clients) | 19:42 |
fungi | i thought openid was broken but it's actually working better than it did on the old wiki-dev01 | 19:42 |
fungi | the reason i didn't realize that is up in the top-right corner of https://wiki-dev.openstack.org/ the drop-down is doing language selection instead of login | 19:43 |
fungi | so need to figure out how to get that to point to the right thing | 19:43 |
clarkb | oh a theming bug I guess? | 19:43 |
fungi | #link https://wiki-dev.openstack.org/wiki/Special:OpenIDLogin | 19:43 |
fungi | well, so it may be related to the next thing | 19:43 |
fungi | #link https://review.opendev.org/675713 Put image data in a parallel path to source code | 19:44 |
fungi | the old wiki-dev deployment was puppeting the installation onto a cinder volume we'd attached | 19:44 |
fungi | and then having mediawiki store its static content (image uploads and so on) into subtrees of that installation path | 19:45 |
ianw | ahh, was going to say i had a few broken images, so that fixes that? | 19:45 |
fungi | well, it's the first step in fixing it, yeah | 19:45 |
fungi | we were essentially mixing configuration-managed stuff with mw-managed stuff in the same tree | 19:45 |
fungi | so with the proposed change i want mediawiki to start managing its persistent file content into a separate path (which we can put in a cinder volume) and not have to cart around crufy from configuration-managed bits previously on other machines | 19:47 |
clarkb | sounds liek a great idea | 19:47 |
fungi | er, cruft | 19:47 |
fungi | i've already got the new volume in place and formatted/mounted | 19:47 |
fungi | on the new wiki-dev03 | 19:47 |
fungi | so once that change lands i'll rsync over the images tree and whatever else needs to go there | 19:47 |
fungi | and that will allow us to completely blow away the config-managed stuff any time we want and redeploy without risking loss of precious files | 19:48 |
fungi | also a related change... | 19:48 |
fungi | #link https://review.opendev.org/675733 Update to 1.28.x branch | 19:49 |
fungi | we'd already manually upgraded production wiki.o.o to 1.28 | 19:49 |
clarkb | seems like config management should reflect that then | 19:49 |
fungi | so this brings the wiki-dev configuration management in line with production | 19:49 |
fungi | which also both need badly to be upgraded some more, but... | 19:50 |
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clarkb | as a timecheck we have about 10 minutes left and a few more items on the agenda. Anything else urgent on this subject before we move on? | 19:50 |
fungi | having -dev at least on the same version will facilitate that | 19:50 |
fungi | yeah, we can move on | 19:50 |
fungi | anyway, reviews of those two changes most welcome | 19:50 |
clarkb | We been having flaky afs publishing from mirror-update.opendev.org | 19:50 |
clarkb | ianw it occured to me that that host may be running the bionic openafs build which we know is broken? | 19:50 |
clarkb | ianw: maybe the proper fix there is to install from our ppa if we haven't already? | 19:51 |
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ianw | it's worth checking but i think it is using the latest | 19:52 |
clarkb | ok for those that might not be aware we've had vos releases fail or run for weeks at a time resulting in slow updates to the rsync'd mirrors we have | 19:52 |
clarkb | ianw and I were working on it yesterday. I need to catch up on that after the meting | 19:52 |
ianw | ii openafs-client 1.8.3-1~bionic | 19:53 |
fungi | not the broken prerelease then | 19:53 |
clarkb | rules that out then | 19:53 |
clarkb | Other items really quickly: | 19:54 |
clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675537 New backup server | 19:54 |
ianw | i think we keep an eye at this point; it might have been around the time i was restarting to get some audit data | 19:54 |
clarkb | ianw ^ has a new backup server ready to go if we can get reviews on that | 19:54 |
ianw | yeah, just wanted eyes because it's non-regular semantics with that host keeping it out of ansible, as we discussed | 19:54 |
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clarkb | ianw also updated dib with what we think will fix limestone ipv4 issues | 19:54 |
clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677410/ DIB fix for limestone ipv4 issues | 19:54 |
ianw | i can do a release and rebuild in a bit for that | 19:55 |
clarkb | ianw: note there was a tripleo job failing on that change | 19:55 |
clarkb | and apparently it was a known failure they had yet to fix | 19:55 |
clarkb | we might consider making that job non voting? | 19:55 |
ianw | if it doesn't work, there are options but i think they'll require us updating how glean writes config in one way or another, comments in that change | 19:55 |
clarkb | And finally feel free to start adding ideas for PTG topics on the etherpad | 19:56 |
clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenDev-Shanghai-PTG-2019 | 19:56 |
ianw | (other than, you know, intense debugging of legacy areas of networkmanager) | 19:56 |
clarkb | I expect planning for that will start in earnest much closer to the event | 19:56 |
clarkb | ianw: it is odd that the bug has been around for so long too | 19:56 |
clarkb | its clearly a fairly major problem they've had for a long time | 19:57 |
clarkb | I guess if the kernel is manageing the interface NM doesn't want to step on its toes | 19:57 |
clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:57 |
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clarkb | we have about 2.5 minutes for anything else | 19:57 |
ianw | speaking of the afs thing before | 19:57 |
ianw | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:openafs-reccomends | 19:57 |
shadiakiki | o/ hey there. I had sent a few emails on the mailing list about server sizing | 19:58 |
ianw | that was related to us not installing the correct openafs packages on new servers | 19:58 |
clarkb | shadiakiki: hello. I've been trying to keep up with responses (as has ianw looks like) | 19:59 |
shadiakiki | Just want to ask if it's a subject that's of interest for you in terms of cost savings | 19:59 |
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clarkb | shadiakiki: as ianw pointed out I think we tend to end up undersizing servers more than we oversize them | 19:59 |
shadiakiki | Thanks Clark. You guys have been very responsive. It's fantastic | 19:59 |
ianw | shadiakiki: hello! for mine, i'd say we're always open to contribution :) | 19:59 |
clarkb | our gitea backends and zuul executors could all be bigger probably. Thinking out loud here, it might be moer useful for us to see where we should run larger instances | 20:00 |
ianw | in this respect, i think that with our new trend towards containerising that might be the best place to start looking at this | 20:00 |
shadiakiki | Awesome! I founded my startup a few weeks ago to solve the issue of sizing for large infra. It'll be great if I can communicate with you guys from time to time | 20:00 |
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clarkb | and we are at time | 20:01 |
clarkb | Thank you everyone | 20:01 |
fungi | it's good to note that while we try to be careful and cost-wise in how we use donated server resources, we're also a very small team with limited time to invest in complex solutions if the return on investment is minor | 20:01 |
fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:01 |
clarkb | feel free to continue discussion in #openstack-infra | 20:01 |
clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 20 20:01:17 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-08-20-19.01.html | 20:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-08-20-19.01.txt | 20:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-08-20-19.01.log.html | 20:01 |
shadiakiki | Ok thanks guys! | 20:01 |
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martial | #start-meeting Scientific-SIG | 21:01 |
martial | #startmeeting Scientific-SIG | 21:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 20 21:01:53 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is martial. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:01 |
martial | Hello and welcome to another session of the Scientific SIG meeting | 21:02 |
martial | Few topics of conversation today as it has been a little quiet with the summer | 21:02 |
martial | but the plans of this conversation are simple: Shanghai meeting and PTG | 21:04 |
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martial | FYI, the Scientific SIG plans to meet in Shanghai, and to hold its usual two back to back meetings | 21:04 |
rbudden | hello | 21:04 |
martial | first being a conversations for everybody to discuss status and meet the community | 21:05 |
martial | Hi Bob | 21:05 |
martial | second the lighting talk session | 21:05 |
martial | we will share a couple Etherpads in the near future to populate hose | 21:05 |
martial | I will be among the people that will unfortunately not be in Shanghai | 21:06 |
martial | but Stig will and will guide the conversations efficiently as always | 21:07 |
martial | Other set of information: the PTG will be happening right after the Summit | 21:07 |
martial | once again the Scientific SIG is planning to have 1/2 day to 1 day to discuss next steps | 21:08 |
martial | If you are going and are staying for the PTG, feel free to stop by and talk to the people present ;) | 21:09 |
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martial | and on that, a small amount of content for Today's meeting, so I will open to AOB | 21:10 |
martial | well it is that time of the year :) | 21:20 |
martial | Thanks Bob for joining; on those good words, until next time | 21:20 |
martial | #endmeeting | 21:20 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-08-20-21.01.html | 21:20 |
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rbudden | take care | 21:27 |
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