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samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:02 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 8 04:02:08 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:02 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:02 |
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samP | Hi all for masakari | 04:02 |
tpatil | Hi | 04:02 |
shilpasd | Hi | 04:02 |
nitinuikey | Hi | 04:02 |
samP | #topic Critical bugs or patches | 04:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Critical bugs or patches (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:02 | |
samP | Any critical bugs or patches? | 04:03 |
tpatil | LP Bug : 1839715 | 04:03 |
tpatil | #link : https://launchpad.net/bugs/1839715 | 04:03 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1839715 in masakari "masakari fails if hypervisor name does not match nova service name" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Liam Young (gnuoy) | 04:03 |
tpatil | Patch is already up : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675734/ | 04:04 |
tpatil | I have added my comment on this patch | 04:04 |
tpatil | please check | 04:04 |
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samP | tpatil: thanks, I will check your comment | 04:05 |
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samP | if any other issues, please bring them up any time | 04:09 |
samP | #topic Train work items | 04:09 |
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samP | I think we have review all the docs work. | 04:10 |
samP | I am reviwing them now. | 04:10 |
shilpasd | yes, but there is one comment from horizon PTL saying need change in summary for masakari doc https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681198/4//COMMIT_MSG | 04:11 |
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shilpasd | from his point of view, even if it is done from point of view of operators, the masakari doc is not equal to an operator document., so suggesting change in summary | 04:12 |
shilpasd | his suggestion ""Reorganize masakari documentation"" | 04:12 |
samP | IMHO, this is about operating masakari. | 04:13 |
samP | as for this patch, reorganize masakari documentation would also fine, I think | 04:15 |
shilpasd | so will change as suggested, thanks | 04:16 |
samP | shilpasd: np, thanks | 04:16 |
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shilpasd | samP: also need your review for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673562/, which fixes LP bug 1838418 | 04:16 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1838418 in masakari "Instances are not cleanup properly after functional tests finished execution" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838418 - Assigned to Shilpa Devharakar (shilpasd) | 04:16 |
samP | Final RC deadline is 10/11. Let's try to merge the docs before that. | 04:17 |
tpatil | Ok | 04:17 |
samP | shilpasd: thanks. I have just approved it. | 04:18 |
shilpasd | samP: thank you | 04:18 |
samP | Any other Train related items? | 04:19 |
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tpatil | #link : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670680/ | 04:19 |
tpatil | noauth middleware support | 04:20 |
tpatil | Mainly used by developers | 04:20 |
tpatil | Pretty straight forward patch | 04:20 |
tpatil | we can merge it in Train release | 04:20 |
samP | tpatil: thanks. Approved. | 04:21 |
tpatil | samP: Thanks | 04:21 |
samP | tpatil: np | 04:21 |
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samP | if no other items, let's move to AOB | 04:22 |
samP | #topic AOB | 04:22 |
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samP | About summit and PTG | 04:22 |
samP | Unfortunately I will not be able to join. | 04:23 |
tpatil | I won't be able to make it this time as well | 04:24 |
samP | However, I can join remotely for any session. especially for project update session. | 04:24 |
tpatil | When is the project update session planned? | 04:25 |
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tpatil | and who will present it? | 04:25 |
samP | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule/events/24387/masakari-project-update-november-2019 | 04:26 |
tpatil | Ok, During this session, we will need to explain the audience what's done in Train and what is the future roadmap | 04:27 |
samP | tpatil: That would be fine. | 04:28 |
tpatil | ok | 04:28 |
tpatil | But since I'm not attending this session, we will need to change the speaker | 04:29 |
samP | tpatil: Sure, please email Kendall Nelson about it. | 04:29 |
tpatil | Ok, Will do | 04:31 |
tpatil | I will suggest Nitin's name and if Shilpa is interested, I can suggest her name too | 04:33 |
samP | tpatil: thanks. | 04:33 |
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nitinuikey | tpatil: ok | 04:34 |
shilpasd | sure, we coordinately will do | 04:34 |
shilpasd | tpatil: thanks | 04:34 |
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samP | shilpasd: nitinuikey: Let's discuss further in our next meeting about the session content. | 04:36 |
samP | shilpasd: nitinuikey: Thanks for doing this. | 04:36 |
nitinuikey | samP:sure | 04:36 |
shilpasd | yes | 04:36 |
samP | Any other items to discuss? | 04:37 |
samP | if not we could finish today's meeting here. | 04:37 |
tpatil | no more topics from my side | 04:37 |
samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:38 |
samP | Please use openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org ML or #openstack-masakari @freenode IRC for further discussions. | 04:38 |
samP | Thank you all for attending today's meeting | 04:39 |
samP | #endmeeting | 04:39 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 8 04:39:16 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:39 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-10-08-04.02.html | 04:39 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-10-08-04.02.txt | 04:39 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-10-08-04.02.log.html | 04:39 |
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slaweq | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 8 14:00:59 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
slaweq | hi | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:01 |
njohnston | o/ | 14:01 |
mlavalle | o/ | 14:01 |
amotoki | o/ | 14:01 |
ralonsoh | hi | 14:01 |
haleyb | hi | 14:01 |
bcafarel | \o | 14:01 |
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slaweq | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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slaweq | Shanghai PTG: | 14:02 |
lajoskatona | hi | 14:02 |
slaweq | planning etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Shanghai-Neutron-Planning - just a reminder, if You have any ideas about topic for ptg, please add them to this etherpad | 14:02 |
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rubasov | hi | 14:02 |
slaweq | ptg schedule is now ready: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/z9iLyv8e/pvg-ptg-sched-2 | 14:03 |
slaweq | we have full 3 days for Neutron | 14:03 |
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slaweq | and the last one: | 14:04 |
slaweq | we have accepted one neutron related session for forum: https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule/events/24412/neutron-stadium-projects-the-path-forward | 14:04 |
slaweq | and that's all related to the PTG | 14:05 |
slaweq | next announcements topic is "Train departure" :) | 14:06 |
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slaweq | according to the https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html this week is week of last RC releases if needed | 14:06 |
slaweq | I don't think we need to release rc2 for anything, except midonet which we already did last week | 14:07 |
bcafarel | yes deadline is Thursday for last minute release-breaking fixes to get in a rc2 | 14:07 |
slaweq | but if You know about any patches which would require such rc2 for any project, please speak about it now :) | 14:07 |
slaweq | or ping me or amotoki on irc later | 14:08 |
bcafarel | coast looks clear from currently open stable/train backports (nothing critical in progress) | 14:08 |
amotoki | note that it applies to all stadium projects. it is not only for neutron repo. | 14:09 |
slaweq | amotoki: exactly :) | 14:09 |
slaweq | bcafarel: thx for info | 14:09 |
haleyb | so i guess it's time to tag the stable branches? we should take a look at the open changes this week bcafarel | 14:09 |
amotoki | haleyb: is it about stable branches like stein or older ones? | 14:10 |
bcafarel | haleyb: I was writing a similar message :) yes I plan to check queens/rocky/stein status today or tomorrow | 14:10 |
haleyb | stein and older, just so there are new tags for downstream | 14:10 |
haleyb | bcafarel: +1 | 14:11 |
slaweq | thx haleyb and bcafarel for taking care of it | 14:11 |
slaweq | and the most important announcement: | 14:12 |
slaweq | next week is Train release week finally | 14:12 |
slaweq | :) | 14:12 |
bcafarel | I will miss all the train jokes in 2 weeks | 14:13 |
slaweq | :) | 14:13 |
slaweq | and one last announcement from me for today: | 14:13 |
slaweq | few days ago we merged https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685917/ - so now "mechanial" changes can be approved with 1 x +2 | 14:13 |
slaweq | any other announcements from the team? | 14:14 |
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slaweq | ok, let's move on | 14:15 |
slaweq | #topic Blueprints | 14:15 |
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slaweq | We don't have yet milestone Ussuri-1 created so there is no list of targeted BPs | 14:16 |
slaweq | but maybe anyone wants to talk about any BP now? | 14:16 |
slaweq | any updates maybe? | 14:16 |
mlavalle | I recently sent an email to wwriverrat | 14:17 |
mlavalle | whom I don't see around | 14:17 |
mlavalle | about his blueprint for multiple segments per host in routed networks | 14:17 |
mlavalle | I am interested in continuing that work | 14:18 |
mlavalle | so I amy add it soon to the the next milestone dasboard | 14:18 |
slaweq | mlavalle: thx for update and for volunteering to work on this | 14:19 |
davidsha | For the DSCP + Neutron Classifier integration, I'm just working through refactoring based on comments atm. | 14:20 |
slaweq | davidsha: so this one we probably also should add soon to the next milestone dashboard, right? | 14:21 |
davidsha | Please! | 14:21 |
slaweq | davidsha: sure, I will | 14:21 |
davidsha | Thanks | 14:22 |
slaweq | ok, I think we can move on than | 14:23 |
slaweq | thx for updates about BPs | 14:23 |
slaweq | #topic Community goals | 14:23 |
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slaweq | amotoki: I think that generating pdf docs goal is done now, right? | 14:24 |
slaweq | all patches on list https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:build-pdf-docs+(status:open+OR+status:merged)+(project:%255Eopenstack/neutron.*+OR+project:%255Eopenstack/networking-.*) are merged | 14:24 |
amotoki | we finished the PDF docs goal :) | 14:24 |
amotoki | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2006099 | 14:24 |
ralonsoh | well done | 14:25 |
slaweq | \o/ | 14:25 |
bcafarel | \o/ | 14:25 |
davidsha | \o/ | 14:25 |
slaweq | great work amotoki - thx a lot | 14:25 |
njohnston | \o/ | 14:25 |
slaweq | so I will remove this goal from agenda for next meetings, ok? | 14:25 |
mlavalle | Nice! | 14:25 |
amotoki | thanks all for detail feedback :) | 14:25 |
amotoki | yeah, we can drop it | 14:25 |
slaweq | thx | 14:26 |
slaweq | according py3 goal, I updated recently etherpad for stadium projects: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_stadium_python3_status | 14:27 |
slaweq | according to our completion criteria, networking-odl should be already done as voting jobs as switched | 14:27 |
lajoskatona | slaweq: yesh, as we discussed last week | 14:27 |
slaweq | for networking-bagpipe, I proposed patch to switch neutron-tempest-plugin job to py3: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685702/ | 14:28 |
slaweq | and with this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686990/ it should be also fine | 14:28 |
amotoki | AFAIK, legacy-networking-bagpipe-dsvm-fullstack still depends on py27 too. | 14:28 |
slaweq | amotoki: but it is non-voting job, right? | 14:29 |
amotoki | yes, it is non-voting. the job itself is broken now, so it does not matter. | 14:29 |
slaweq | I want for now focus only on voting jobs | 14:30 |
slaweq | as I'm not e.g. bagpipe expert and I don't have time to fix non-voting jobs for this project :/ | 14:31 |
njohnston | +1 | 14:32 |
amotoki | agree | 14:32 |
slaweq | so, please review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686990/ and than https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685702/ if You have some time :) | 14:32 |
slaweq | and also, I saw that haleyb did very important patch for neutron already: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686833/ | 14:33 |
haleyb | might as well get it started :) | 14:33 |
slaweq | thx haleyb for that - it's small patch for human big step for humanity ;) | 14:33 |
njohnston | networking-ovn is also moving forward: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686987/ | 14:33 |
haleyb | there is still the py27 job defined elsewhere, that's about it | 14:34 |
haleyb | i'll probably get one out for octavia as well | 14:34 |
bcafarel | this one is common job definition so it will probably stay last? | 14:34 |
amotoki | I think tox-py27 will be dropped when a project template for ussuri is defined. | 14:34 |
slaweq | yes, py27 is comming from template defined by qa team | 14:34 |
njohnston | just as an FYI, not everything is dropping pu27 support. Since tempest is branchless it will need to operate on py27 for some time yet, and so the same extends to neutron-tempest-plugin | 14:36 |
slaweq | I think we should create some new etherpad to coordinate removal of such jobs from all stadium repos | 14:36 |
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amotoki | njohnston: yes, templest plugins should work with stable branches, so we need py35 and py27 supports. | 14:37 |
slaweq | njohnston: in neutron-tempest-plugin we are running jobs on py27 for stable branches, and we will keep that still | 14:37 |
slaweq | but jobs for train and master are running on py3 | 14:37 |
slaweq | in overall, I think we are in good shape for supporting py3 and dropping support for py2 in Ussuri | 14:39 |
slaweq | ok, lets move on | 14:39 |
slaweq | according to ipv6 only deployments there is no too much progress in last week | 14:39 |
slaweq | gmann proposed new job for neutron-tempest-plugin https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686043/ - I have to review it and check what is missing there still | 14:40 |
slaweq | nothing else on this topic for today | 14:40 |
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slaweq | #topic Bugs | 14:40 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:40 | |
slaweq | bcafarel was bug deputy last week | 14:40 |
slaweq | and he send report which is available at: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/009970.html | 14:40 |
slaweq | it seems like quite week | 14:41 |
slaweq | bcafarel: any bugs You want to highlight now? | 14:41 |
bcafarel | yes, not too many bugs and most have fixes in or in progress | 14:41 |
bcafarel | only one I had doubts on is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1846494 | 14:41 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1846494 in neutron "neutron-openvswitch-agent and IPv6" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:41 |
bcafarel | and some nice PTL came in to comment :) | 14:42 |
slaweq | thx :) | 14:42 |
bcafarel | also I saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1794569 from week before was reopened, tested on ocata this time (dvr issue) | 14:42 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1794569 in neutron "DVR with static routes may cause routed traffic to be dropped" [Undecided,New] | 14:42 |
bcafarel | One RFE in discussion also for the interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1846285 | 14:44 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1846285 in neutron "[RFE] routed network for hypervisor" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:44 |
bcafarel | and that's it for the highlights | 14:44 |
slaweq | thx bcafarel | 14:44 |
slaweq | according to this rfe, I wanted to ask mlavalle if You can take a look at it | 14:44 |
slaweq | as You are routed networks expert here :) | 14:44 |
mlavalle | I am actually looking at it right now | 14:45 |
bcafarel | I have to catch on latest updates, it is in my toread tabs :) | 14:45 |
slaweq | mlavalle: thx a lot | 14:45 |
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slaweq | any other bugs anyone wants to talk about today? | 14:46 |
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slaweq | ok, I take that as "no" | 14:47 |
slaweq | #topic On Demand agenda | 14:48 |
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slaweq | on demand agenda is empty for today | 14:48 |
slaweq | but maybe You have anything else to talk about? | 14:48 |
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njohnston | I have one thing | 14:48 |
njohnston | With other responsibilities I'd like to give someone else a chance to act as the oslo liaison | 14:49 |
njohnston | It takes very little work - just another IRC meeting to attend | 14:49 |
bcafarel | when is the meeting? | 14:50 |
ralonsoh | njohnston, I'll ping you latter to know what is needed | 14:50 |
ralonsoh | what this person needs to do | 14:50 |
njohnston | Mondays; 1500 UTC | 14:51 |
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njohnston | ralonsoh: Sure thing | 14:51 |
njohnston | Once you hear, ping slaweq if you want to volunteer | 14:51 |
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ralonsoh | ok | 14:51 |
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njohnston | that's all for me | 14:52 |
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slaweq | thx njohnston for Your work on this so far | 14:53 |
slaweq | and thx bcafarel and ralonsoh for (potentially) volunteering for this role :) | 14:53 |
slaweq | anything else You want to talk today? | 14:54 |
bcafarel | :) reading https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Oslo atm, it has some details on role | 14:54 |
ralonsoh | bcafarel++ | 14:55 |
slaweq | thx bcafarel for the link | 14:55 |
slaweq | I think we can finish this meeting now | 14:55 |
slaweq | thx for attending and have a great week! | 14:55 |
slaweq | o/ | 14:55 |
slaweq | #endmeeting | 14:56 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:56 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 8 14:56:00 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:56 |
davidsha | o/ | 14:56 |
ralonsoh | bye | 14:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2019/networking.2019-10-08-14.00.html | 14:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2019/networking.2019-10-08-14.00.txt | 14:56 |
lajoskatona | o/ | 14:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2019/networking.2019-10-08-14.00.log.html | 14:56 |
njohnston | o/ | 14:56 |
rubasov | o/ | 14:56 |
bcafarel | o/ | 14:56 |
amotoki | o/ | 14:56 |
mlavalle | o/ | 14:56 |
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ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 8 15:01:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:01 |
ralonsoh | hello | 15:01 |
slaweq | o/ | 15:01 |
davidsha | o/ | 15:01 |
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ralonsoh | #topic RFEs | 15:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:02 | |
ralonsoh | I would like to add davidsha RFE to this section | 15:02 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1476527 | 15:02 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1476527 in neutron "[RFE] Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Igor D.C. (igordcard) | 15:02 |
ralonsoh | I think this cycle we'll be able to push this feature in neutron | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | davidsha, do you think so? | 15:03 |
davidsha | ralonsoh, yup! | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | btw, you didn't update the spec | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | this is the first thing we need to approve | 15:04 |
ralonsoh | davidsha, are you going to push an update this week? | 15:04 |
davidsha | kk, I was going to get the refactor done first in case it resulted in the spec being updated | 15:04 |
ralonsoh | ok | 15:04 |
ralonsoh | because we should build this from the basement | 15:04 |
davidsha | +1 | 15:05 |
ralonsoh | once the spec is approved, we can start merging the code | 15:05 |
ralonsoh | perfect, I'll wait for this | 15:05 |
ralonsoh | (this week??) | 15:05 |
davidsha | yup, I'll get the spec done tomorrow | 15:05 |
ralonsoh | perfect! | 15:05 |
ralonsoh | thanks davidsha | 15:05 |
ralonsoh | so next section | 15:06 |
ralonsoh | we don't have more RFEs | 15:06 |
ralonsoh | #topic Bugs | 15:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:06 | |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1845176 | 15:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1845176 in neutron "Removing of QoS queue in neutron-ovs-agent fails due to existing references" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:06 |
ralonsoh | this one usually happens during the FT tests | 15:07 |
ralonsoh | this is because when a qos register is going to be removed, all queues should be removed first | 15:07 |
ralonsoh | I'll take a look at this one this week | 15:07 |
ralonsoh | ok, next one | 15:08 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1845161 | 15:08 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1845161 in neutron "Neutron QoS Policy lost on interfaces" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Nguyen Duy Binh (binhnd) | 15:08 |
ralonsoh | qos lost in interfaces when migrating or rebbot | 15:08 |
ralonsoh | I need to review this one better | 15:08 |
ralonsoh | the network backend is OVS | 15:09 |
ralonsoh | and this is testing only ingress max BW | 15:10 |
davidsha | Ya, it looks like maybe the QoS extension isn't being runn when the interfaces are being recreated on a hard reboot? | 15:10 |
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ralonsoh | this is set in the interface, if I'm not wrong (policyng, not shapping) | 15:11 |
ralonsoh | hmmm I need to investigate this | 15:11 |
ralonsoh | but according to c#4, this is not happening always | 15:11 |
ralonsoh | you need to repeat this operation some times | 15:12 |
ralonsoh | ok, I'll take this one but not today or tomorrow | 15:12 |
davidsha | Ya, it's whats making me think that maybe it's skipping the QoS backend driver. | 15:12 |
davidsha | There is a patch submitted also | 15:12 |
davidsha | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684457/1 | 15:12 |
ralonsoh | I see where this is going | 15:13 |
ralonsoh | handle_port | 15:13 |
ralonsoh | if no change -> do nothing | 15:13 |
ralonsoh | but, of course, the interface qos must be applied again | 15:13 |
ralonsoh | I'll review this patch tomorrow | 15:14 |
davidsha | Ya, we had an issue before when we changed the behavior to "do nothing if no change" | 15:14 |
davidsha | Restarting the service would wipe the state of the port | 15:15 |
ralonsoh | this should be affecting only Train | 15:15 |
davidsha | kk | 15:16 |
ralonsoh | because this change (mine) was added last cycle | 15:16 |
ralonsoh | I remember adding this check: if no change, return | 15:16 |
ralonsoh | I think we need to check something else | 15:16 |
davidsha | kk, I'm thinking of a similar, older version of this, the solution back then was just apply every time. | 15:17 |
ralonsoh | yes | 15:17 |
ralonsoh | but what I don't know is what is happening when the port is deleted | 15:17 |
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ralonsoh | because if the port is recreated | 15:17 |
ralonsoh | ... | 15:17 |
ralonsoh | never mind | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | the port is never deleted | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | only unbound and the bound again | 15:18 |
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davidsha | that isn't necessarily triggering the handle_port call then is it? | 15:19 |
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ralonsoh | no, if I'm not worng, those are the qos agent api callbacks | 15:19 |
ralonsoh | anyway, I'll take a look at this this week | 15:21 |
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ralonsoh | something else related to bugs? | 15:21 |
davidsha | I think, handle_notifcation is the api callback, no, nothing from me. | 15:21 |
ralonsoh | yes, this is the api callback | 15:22 |
ralonsoh | the other method are the agent interface calls | 15:22 |
davidsha | yup, handle and delete port | 15:23 |
ralonsoh | ok, let's move | 15:23 |
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ralonsoh | #topic Open Discussion | 15:23 |
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ralonsoh | I have nothing in the agenda | 15:23 |
ralonsoh | do you? | 15:24 |
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davidsha | Nothing important, I put this patch up just to make sure I don't lose it again: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/687256/ | 15:24 |
lajoskatona | Hi | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | I'll add it to the etherpad | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | btw, davidsha | 15:25 |
davidsha | It's an improved CLI for the classifie | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | check the etherpad and add the list of patches under your RFE, if you want | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_qos_meeting_chair | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | lajoskatona, hi | 15:25 |
lajoskatona | More a question or a note: we plan to make guaranteed minimum bandwidth feature work with ovn, and any suggestion can be helpful | 15:26 |
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ralonsoh | lajoskatona, that means OVN needs to support min-bw | 15:28 |
ralonsoh | lajoskatona, although this qos rule won't do anything | 15:28 |
ralonsoh | the min-bw won't be applied on the backend | 15:28 |
lajoskatona | ralonsoh: even min-bw is not wokring with ovn, right now? | 15:28 |
ralonsoh | lajoskatona, I need to check but this is the same as OVS | 15:29 |
lajoskatona | ralonsoh: I see now in the code that only bandwidth-limit is there, ok so first it should be added to ovn qos-driver | 15:30 |
ralonsoh | lajoskatona, the problem is we need to introduce the qos code in the plugin project | 15:30 |
ralonsoh | yes | 15:30 |
ralonsoh | that's the point | 15:30 |
lajoskatona | ralonsoh: thanks, I check as well to have more details | 15:30 |
ralonsoh | btw, I don't know the status of QoS in OVN project | 15:30 |
ralonsoh | ok, something else in the agenda? | 15:31 |
davidsha | nothing from me | 15:32 |
lajoskatona | ralonsoh: side question: is there some "official" SIG like meeting or similar between OVN and networking-ovn (~neutron) team? | 15:32 |
ralonsoh | let me check that | 15:32 |
ralonsoh | slaweq, do you know that? ^^ | 15:32 |
lajoskatona | ok, thanks | 15:32 |
lajoskatona | Sorry for trolling the meeting | 15:32 |
ralonsoh | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Networking_OVN_and_ML2+OVS+DVR_Convergence_Team_Meeting | 15:32 |
slaweq | lajoskatona: there is meeting once in the month | 15:32 |
slaweq | exactly what ralonsoh just linked :) | 15:33 |
slaweq | nothing else for now | 15:33 |
lajoskatona | slaweq: thanks, good to know | 15:33 |
lajoskatona | ah, I see the link now | 15:33 |
lajoskatona | thnks for the info | 15:33 |
ralonsoh | lajoskatona, if you have plans to introduce qos to ovn, ping me to join those meetings | 15:34 |
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lajoskatona | ralonsoh: thanks, I will ping you, and as I know our company plans rubasov will be there as well :-) | 15:34 |
ralonsoh | perfect | 15:35 |
ralonsoh | something else?? | 15:35 |
ralonsoh | thank you all | 15:36 |
davidsha | Thanks! | 15:36 |
ralonsoh | and see you in 25 mins in the CI meeting | 15:36 |
ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
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ralonsoh | bye | 15:36 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 8 15:36:27 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:36 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2019/neutron_qos.2019-10-08-15.01.html | 15:36 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2019/neutron_qos.2019-10-08-15.01.txt | 15:36 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2019/neutron_qos.2019-10-08-15.01.log.html | 15:36 |
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slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 8 16:00:10 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
slaweq | welcome back :) | 16:00 |
ralonsoh | hi | 16:00 |
njohnston | o/ | 16:00 |
ralonsoh | (3 meetings in a row) | 16:01 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: yes | 16:01 |
slaweq | that's a lot | 16:01 |
slaweq | but fortunatelly this one is the last one | 16:01 |
slaweq | so lets start and do this quick :) | 16:01 |
bcafarel | o/ | 16:01 |
slaweq | Grafana dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:01 |
slaweq | please open ^^ now | 16:01 |
slaweq | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:02 | |
slaweq | there is only one action from last week | 16:02 |
slaweq | slaweq to fix networking-bagpipe python3 scenario job and update etherpad | 16:02 |
slaweq | I did this patches as I mentioned before on neutron meeting alread | 16:02 |
slaweq | *already | 16:02 |
slaweq | now patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686990/ is in gate already - thx for reviews | 16:03 |
slaweq | and with that https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685702/ can also be merged | 16:03 |
njohnston | good catch there | 16:03 |
slaweq | njohnston: it wasn't me but CI :) | 16:03 |
bcafarel | still good catch on the fix :) | 16:03 |
slaweq | thx | 16:03 |
slaweq | ok, lets move on | 16:04 |
slaweq | #topic Stadium projects | 16:04 |
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slaweq | according python 3 migration we already talked 2 hours ago | 16:04 |
slaweq | but I think that now, as we are in Ussuri cycle, we should prepare new etherpad to track dropping of py2 jobs from various repos | 16:04 |
slaweq | what do You think about it? | 16:05 |
ralonsoh | I'm ok with this | 16:05 |
ralonsoh | just to track it | 16:05 |
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slaweq | yes, exactly | 16:06 |
ralonsoh | (btw, this should be fast) | 16:06 |
njohnston | sounds good | 16:06 |
slaweq | I will prepare it for next week | 16:06 |
slaweq | #action slaweq to prepare etherpad to track dropping py27 jobs from ci | 16:06 |
slaweq | according to tempest-plugins migration | 16:06 |
slaweq | we recently finished step 1 for neutron-dynamic-routing | 16:07 |
slaweq | thx tidwellr | 16:07 |
slaweq | so we are only missing removal of tempest tests from neutron-dynamic-routing repo | 16:07 |
bcafarel | step 2 patch is usually easier | 16:08 |
slaweq | and we are still missing neutron-vpnaas | 16:08 |
slaweq | bcafarel: indeed | 16:08 |
lajoskatona | o/ | 16:08 |
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slaweq | anything else regarding stadium projects? | 16:09 |
bcafarel | maybe check with mlavalle if he still plans to work on it? last update on patch is some time ago now | 16:09 |
bcafarel | (regargind vpnaas) | 16:09 |
slaweq | bcafarel: IIRC he told me recently that he will work on this | 16:10 |
bcafarel | ok so nothing to do for us then :) | 16:10 |
slaweq | but I will ping him if there will be no any progress in next few weeks | 16:10 |
slaweq | ok, lets move on then | 16:11 |
slaweq | #topic Grafana | 16:11 |
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slaweq | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:11 |
njohnston | zero unit test failures since Saturday! | 16:12 |
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njohnston | wow we write some awesome code. :-) | 16:12 |
ralonsoh | fore sure!!! | 16:12 |
ralonsoh | for sure!! | 16:12 |
slaweq | njohnston: it looks for me more like some issue with data for the graphs | 16:13 |
njohnston | slaweq: pessimist. ;-) but how can we tell how large any discrepancy might be? | 16:14 |
slaweq | njohnston: tbh I don't know | 16:14 |
slaweq | maybe it's just we didn't have any jobs running in gate queue during the weekend? | 16:15 |
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njohnston | slaweq: I was looking at the check queue unit test graph | 16:15 |
slaweq | because for check queue graphs looks more "natural" | 16:15 |
slaweq | njohnston: ok, so for check queue it seems that it indeed could be that all tests were passing | 16:16 |
slaweq | as in number of runs graph there are some values | 16:16 |
slaweq | lets keep an eye on those graphs for next days and if values will still be 0, we will probably need to investigate that :) | 16:18 |
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njohnston | sounds good | 16:19 |
slaweq | from other things failure rates looks quite good | 16:19 |
slaweq | I have one additional thing to add regarding grafana | 16:20 |
slaweq | we have dashboard for neutron-tempest-plugin: http://grafana.openstack.org/d/zDcINcIik/neutron-tempest-plugin-failure-rate?orgId=1 | 16:20 |
slaweq | but it's unmaintained for now | 16:20 |
njohnston | oh, neat | 16:20 |
slaweq | and as we are adding more and more jobs to this project | 16:20 |
slaweq | I think we should update this dashboard | 16:20 |
slaweq | even if we will not check it often, it may be useful to check from time to time if we have any issues there or not | 16:21 |
slaweq | as currently I think that we probably have quite often failing fwaas scenario job | 16:21 |
slaweq | but I don't have it on dashboard to check that for sure | 16:21 |
slaweq | any volunteer to update this dashboard? | 16:21 |
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njohnston | I'll do it | 16:22 |
slaweq | njohnston: thx a lot | 16:22 |
njohnston | #action njohnston Update the neutron-tempest-plugin dashboard in grafana | 16:22 |
slaweq | that's all about grafana on my side | 16:23 |
slaweq | do You have anything else to add/ask? | 16:23 |
ralonsoh | no | 16:23 |
njohnston | no | 16:23 |
slaweq | ok, so lets move on | 16:23 |
slaweq | I was looking today for any examples of failed jobs from last week | 16:24 |
slaweq | and I didn't found too much to investigate | 16:24 |
slaweq | (which is good :)) | 16:24 |
slaweq | I only found one such issue | 16:24 |
slaweq | #topic Tempest/Scenario | 16:24 |
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slaweq | SSH failure: https://storage.gra1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_9c2/664646/6/check/tempest-ipv6-only/9c2f68f/testr_results.html.gz | 16:24 |
ralonsoh | with ip[v6? | 16:25 |
slaweq | lets check it now if there are maybe any obvious reasons of failure | 16:25 |
ralonsoh | no, ipv4 | 16:25 |
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slaweq | job is ipv6-only but IIUC this means that all services are using IPv6 to communicate | 16:25 |
slaweq | but vms can use IPv4 still | 16:25 |
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slaweq | from console-log: | 16:29 |
slaweq | udhcpc (v1.23.2) started | 16:29 |
slaweq | Sending discover... | 16:29 |
slaweq | Sending discover... | 16:29 |
slaweq | Sending discover... | 16:29 |
slaweq | Usage: /sbin/cirros-dhcpc <up|down> | 16:29 |
slaweq | No lease, failing | 16:29 |
slaweq | it seems that fixed IP wasn't configured on instance at all | 16:30 |
slaweq | so it could be problem in dhcp agent or ovs agent | 16:30 |
ralonsoh | ovs? | 16:30 |
njohnston | I wonder if the DHCP requests ever got to their destination | 16:32 |
slaweq | njohnston: that we can check by downlading devstack.journal.xz.gz and checking it in journalctl tool locally | 16:32 |
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ralonsoh | slaweq, sorry but where can we see the dnsmasq logs in devstack.jouirnal? | 16:38 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: if You do like is described in http://storage.gra1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_9c2/664646/6/check/tempest-ipv6-only/9c2f68f/controller/logs/devstack.journal.README.txt.gz | 16:38 |
slaweq | You can than check this journal log file and look for e.g. dnsmasq entries there | 16:38 |
ralonsoh | no no, I mean an example of dnsmasq log register | 16:39 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: I see in this file e.g. something like | 16:40 |
slaweq | Oct 07 22:23:25 ubuntu-bionic-rax-ord-0012196912 dnsmasq-dhcp[29182]: DHCPDISCOVER(tap4319b184-00) fa:16:3e:8a:0d:b8 | 16:40 |
slaweq | Oct 07 22:23:25 ubuntu-bionic-rax-ord-0012196912 dnsmasq-dhcp[29182]: DHCPOFFER(tap4319b184-00) 10.1.0.10 fa:16:3e:8a:0d:b8 | 16:40 |
slaweq | Oct 07 22:23:25 ubuntu-bionic-rax-ord-0012196912 dnsmasq-dhcp[29182]: DHCPREQUEST(tap4319b184-00) 10.1.0.10 fa:16:3e:8a:0d:b8 | 16:40 |
slaweq | Oct 07 22:23:25 ubuntu-bionic-rax-ord-0012196912 dnsmasq-dhcp[29182]: DHCPACK(tap4319b184-00) 10.1.0.10 fa:16:3e:8a:0d:b8 host-10-1-0-10 | 16:40 |
slaweq | (it's for other port for sure, but from this job) | 16:40 |
slaweq | but I don't see there anything related to resource from this failed test | 16:42 |
slaweq | any volunteer to check that carefully? | 16:42 |
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ralonsoh | slaweq, I can take it | 16:42 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: thx | 16:43 |
slaweq | action ralonsoh to check root cause of ssh issue in https://storage.gra1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_9c2/664646/6/check/tempest-ipv6-only/9c2f68f/testr_results.html.gz | 16:43 |
slaweq | #action ralonsoh to check root cause of ssh issue in https://storage.gra1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_9c2/664646/6/check/tempest-ipv6-only/9c2f68f/testr_results.html.gz | 16:43 |
slaweq | ok, that was all from my side for today | 16:43 |
slaweq | anything else You want to talk about today? | 16:43 |
njohnston | nothing from me | 16:44 |
ralonsoh | nothing | 16:44 |
slaweq | ok, thx a lot for attending | 16:46 |
slaweq | I will give You almost 15 minutes back :) | 16:46 |
slaweq | see You online and on the meeting next week | 16:46 |
slaweq | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:46 | |
ralonsoh | see you! | 16:46 |
slaweq | o/ | 16:46 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 8 16:46:39 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-10-08-16.00.html | 16:46 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-10-08-16.00.txt | 16:46 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-10-08-16.00.log.html | 16:46 |
lajoskatona | o/ | 16:47 |
njohnston | o/ | 16:47 |
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corvus | o/ | 19:00 |
* fungi looks around | 19:00 | |
ianw | o/ | 19:01 |
clarkb | anyone here for the infra meeting | 19:01 |
clarkb | sorry got distracted for a minute | 19:01 |
clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 8 19:01:17 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2019-October/006489.html Our Agenda | 19:01 |
clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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clarkb | The OpenStack release happens in ~1 week. I don't think we have anything in flight we need to be concerned about impacting that, but figured I would mention it | 19:02 |
fungi | yeah, i think we're in a good spot | 19:02 |
fungi | job activity has died down a bit now that openstack's in its rc period too | 19:03 |
clarkb | I'm also going to be afk tomorrow. Trying to find the salmon while they are around this fall. | 19:03 |
clarkb | Anything else to announce? | 19:04 |
corvus | i think i will be around | 19:04 |
corvus | but i could disappear through the weekend | 19:04 |
clarkb | corvus: you need a laptop powered by hamster wheels | 19:04 |
fungi | i'm on hand all week | 19:04 |
corvus | depending on the whims of the electric utility provider | 19:04 |
fungi | no plans | 19:04 |
fungi | granted, electricity and internet access here are always a gamble | 19:05 |
clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:06 |
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clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-10-01-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:06 |
clarkb | There were none. Lets just keep moving to get into the bulk of the agenda | 19:06 |
clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:06 |
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clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:06 | |
clarkb | mordred has reported that review-dev is actually running from the docker image | 19:07 |
clarkb | I don't think mordred is here today to talk about that more though | 19:07 |
corvus | ooh cool | 19:07 |
clarkb | It might be useful to start drafting up a plan to convert the production server though if anyone happens to see mordred | 19:07 |
corvus | so i guess next step is to switch out the folgers crystals on review.o.o | 19:07 |
clarkb | ya I think so | 19:07 |
clarkb | Are there any other config management updates from the last week? | 19:08 |
clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:09 |
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clarkb | I have not yet written the email etherpad for opendev governance. Keep getting distracted by visa things and zuul and nodepool and glean | 19:10 |
* clarkb scribbles a note to block the world out on thursday and write a draft | 19:10 | |
clarkb | fungi: is this a good place to talk about the management of storyboard groups or should we do that under the storyboard topic? It sort of straddles these subjects | 19:11 |
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fungi | maybe storyboard | 19:11 |
clarkb | Ok the last topic I know of re opendev was whether or not we should consider podman over docker. | 19:12 |
fungi | though this might be a good time to talk about dns/ssl for services hosted in opendev when their domains aren't in our dns management workflow? | 19:12 |
clarkb | fungi: that is udner the static.o.o topic | 19:12 |
clarkb | (its on the agenda we'll get to it) | 19:12 |
fungi | ahh, okay. sure it came out of that discussion anyway | 19:12 |
clarkb | I have no objection to using podman over docker though it would make me happier if podman was more willing to fix bugs in behaviors. Seems they prefer to try and mimic docker behavior of existing functionality as much as possible | 19:13 |
fungi | what is the recommended way to install podman on non-rh distros these days? | 19:13 |
corvus | the podman/docker thing isn't urgent -- i mostly brought it up for 2 reasons 1) to get feedback on whether the toolset is robust enough to be considered a complete replacement. that soft of knowledge helps me know where to focus zuul efforts. and 2) perhaps that ecosystem, being a bit more open, might be more aligned with our values. | 19:14 |
fungi | does its lack of current inclusion in debian/ubuntu pose any challenges? | 19:14 |
corvus | fungi: i reckon we'd have to use the ppa for now | 19:14 |
fungi | got it | 19:14 |
corvus | fungi: but istr you said it's on its way into debian? | 19:14 |
clarkb | fungi: depends on the distro. For ubuntu there is a PPA that tracks development. For suse its in the main repos aiui. Arch has it on the user package repo | 19:14 |
corvus | from what i can see, there is heavy red hat and suse involvement in development of the tools and libraries | 19:14 |
fungi | corvus: yeah, it seems to be getting worked on. still that's at best winding up in ubuntu 20.04 lts but maybe later still | 19:14 |
corvus | we already rely on the ppa for several other things, and i've been happy with that so far | 19:15 |
clarkb | skopeo in particular | 19:15 |
fungi | we rely on the ppa containing podman, or just ppas in general? | 19:15 |
fungi | aha, skopeo is in there then? | 19:15 |
corvus | er, weird typo like 10 lines up ^ s/that soft of knowledge/that sort of knowledge/ | 19:16 |
clarkb | yes skopeo is part of the podman suite of tools | 19:16 |
clarkb | and comes from that particular ppa | 19:16 |
fungi | cool | 19:16 |
fungi | just to be clear, we're talking about use of podman instead of docker for setting up the services we run as a part of opendev, right? | 19:17 |
clarkb | fungi: yes | 19:17 |
clarkb | gitea (and soon gerrit) for example | 19:17 |
corvus | there's a podman-compose tool, so that's pretty straightforward | 19:17 |
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corvus | biggest technical win is podman can run containers without a root-level daemon | 19:18 |
clarkb | it still needs root if you do certain things but ya no daemon and can run without root if you restrict your feature set | 19:18 |
corvus | that's also the biggest technical change; some more attention to uids may be required. but that's pretty straightforward. | 19:18 |
fungi | yeah, i can't speak to the feature/bug parity between them, but from a which-one-is-more-openly-maintained perspective it sounds like a clear win | 19:18 |
clarkb | I guess the next step here for me is to install it locally and start using it over docker for a bit | 19:19 |
corvus | tristanC is experimenting with swapping it in to the zuul-quick-start job | 19:19 |
fungi | awesome | 19:19 |
corvus | which happens to have really good coverage of how we use docker/docker-compose, so we can learn some there | 19:19 |
corvus | and of course, we can do the same in our system-config testing | 19:19 |
corvus | i'm reading the consensus as 'cautious support for more experimentation' | 19:20 |
clarkb | ++ | 19:20 |
fungi | sounds right to me | 19:21 |
clarkb | anything else on the opendev subject? | 19:21 |
fungi | just stuff we've got other topics for already | 19:21 |
clarkb | k lets move on to them then | 19:21 |
clarkb | #topic Storyboard | 19:21 |
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clarkb | fungi: want to fill us in on storyboard group management? | 19:22 |
fungi | not a lot to cover since last week. so far it's mostly been investigation of the current crufty automation we have for project and project-group creation | 19:22 |
fungi | it's sort of a poster child for "what not to do" here | 19:22 |
fungi | puppet exec calling a utility script in the storyboard repo which pokes values directly through the orm into the db | 19:23 |
fungi | so best that we build a solution from scratch which can handle that and the group creation/project association bits via rest api interaction | 19:23 |
clarkb | that seems like a much safer interface to interact with :) | 19:24 |
fungi | plan for now is a module which we can call from ansible, using the python-storyboardclient sdk to interact with it to align resources between what's in sb and whats in project-config | 19:24 |
fungi | and deprecate the old overloading of the storyboard-db-manage utility | 19:25 |
corvus | is python-sbclient sufficiently developed? | 19:25 |
fungi | if it's not, then i'll be plumbing additional api calls through it | 19:25 |
fungi | though i may just look at what boardtty's doing | 19:25 |
fungi | i guess that's going direct to the rest api? | 19:26 |
corvus | tbh, i'm not convinced of the utility of it, since the rest api is so simple. boartty just does raw rest | 19:26 |
fungi | that does sound like a great option in that case | 19:26 |
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clarkb | the gitea module in ansible is probably a good example for direct http interaction with apis? | 19:26 |
corvus | (and at some point, the sb developers started to feel the same way so it lagged -- i honestly have no idea what the situation is now) | 19:26 |
clarkb | (specifically use a python module to avoid fork overhead, but then do simply python requests?) | 19:27 |
fungi | clarkb: thanks for the reminder, yes the gitea interaction we have in ansible is how i want to model it | 19:27 |
corvus | clarkb: yeah, and the approach i like with those kinds of modules is to make them callable from the command line as well as ansible, so it's easy to develop/test without ansible | 19:27 |
fungi | sounds like a plan | 19:28 |
clarkb | Anything else related to storyboard? | 19:28 |
diablo_rojo | I think fungi covered it | 19:29 |
fungi | yeah, nothing new since my update last week | 19:29 |
fungi | i hope to start punching at the keyboard to make the group management module in the coming days | 19:29 |
clarkb | sounds good thanks | 19:29 |
clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:29 |
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diablo_rojo | Thanks clarkb | 19:29 |
clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/201808-infra-server-upgrades-and-cleanup | 19:30 |
clarkb | fungi: any progress with the wiki? | 19:30 |
fungi | nope | 19:30 |
clarkb | Let's talk static.o.o then | 19:30 |
clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/683852 Review spec | 19:30 |
fungi | always happy to help bring other volunteers up to speed on the wiki too ;) | 19:30 |
clarkb | we brought this spec up wtih the TC last week | 19:30 |
clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-org-dns | 19:30 |
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clarkb | this DNS management etherpad came out of those discussions | 19:31 |
mordred | clarkb: o/ I'm here for a half a second | 19:31 |
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clarkb | Do we need or want to update the spec to take into account what we've decided we can do with dns? | 19:31 |
clarkb | in which case would getting agreement on dns chagnes from the foundation be step 0? | 19:32 |
mordred | clarkb: yes - review-dev is running the image - but it's been manualled - next step there is to finish the cfg-mgmt change to make sure we're rolling it out properly | 19:32 |
corvus | to be clear we should decide that now-ish :) | 19:32 |
corvus | this is basically a tc+fungi+corvus developed proposal for the infra/opendev team(s) to review | 19:32 |
ianw | i'll be happy to update the spec to cover that etherpad | 19:33 |
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clarkb | After reading it yesterday and clarifying the intent behind it (the foundation didn't ask us to stop managing dns for example) I think I'm in favor of this change. In particular I like that it provides a bridge to show how well dns management can work from the existing system | 19:33 |
clarkb | to give us things like LE support | 19:33 |
corvus | if we like it; yeah, let's update the spec. strictly speaking, i'm not sure foundation agreement/approval is required since we're actually doing *less* openstack dns than we are now, but certainly a heads up/consultation would be good. we are friendly and talk. jimmy was part of that discussion too. he did request a writeup, so just sending that etherpad along would be good i think. | 19:34 |
clarkb | and ya I agree I think we don't awnt to go down the road of opdnev.org/docs/foo and a few months later grow the ability to support docs.foo.org | 19:34 |
clarkb | will likely make users unhappy unless they wanted the opendev.org domain in the first place | 19:35 |
fungi | yep, from my perspective it's mostly that we can precreate a bunch of cnames in openstack.org (and starlingx.io) for stuff and then probably never (or almost never) need to care about what the dns for those domains again | 19:35 |
clarkb | fungi and I can bring it up with the foundation (I can do that immediately after this meeting) | 19:36 |
clarkb | does anyone object from out end? | 19:36 |
clarkb | s/out/our/ | 19:36 |
corvus | and yes, while this is not ideal (openstack-infra hat: i think the openstack project should have more direct involvement in its domain management), i think this helps us achieve our goals with opendev: opendev systems management doesn't rely on any resources which have restricted contribution channels. it lets us make a sort of "hosting platform" for static content and let projects manage the | 19:36 |
corvus | public-facing dns for that. | 19:36 |
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fungi | it also gives us a fairly easy answer for "so your project doesn't control its domain but you want to have a whitelabeled opendev service on a subdomain of it" | 19:37 |
corvus | yep | 19:37 |
fungi | i guess that's more or less what you said too ;) | 19:37 |
fungi | cname these records to us and we'll do the rest | 19:38 |
clarkb | I'm not hearing any objections then. ianw maybe fungi and/or I can leave a comment on the spec with a request for a new patchset assuming the foundation has no objections either (and as corvus points out it shouldn't affect the fqdns they manage in that zone) | 19:38 |
fungi | s/we'll do the rest/you can do the rest through opendev/ | 19:38 |
corvus | fungi: or, you know, you can submit a patch to do the rest yourself too :) | 19:38 |
corvus | right that | 19:38 |
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ianw | clarkb: sure; although if it would be easier to have more exact details to explain it in the spec to point people too, then i'd need a bit to update it first | 19:39 |
fungi | i'm perfectly happy to go through and precreate all the cnames we want | 19:39 |
clarkb | ianw: I think the etherpad should cover what we need to explain to our co managers of that dns zone | 19:40 |
clarkb | but I guess there isn't a strict dependency there if you want to go ahead and start updating it | 19:40 |
fungi | though we may want to couple that with an audit of dns cruft entries we can clean up, since there's something like a 500 rr limit per zone in rackspace's dns platform | 19:40 |
fungi | so precreating a bunch of cnames may push us over that limit | 19:40 |
clarkb | fungi: many of our hosts are already cnames | 19:41 |
clarkb | we'll just end up changing their targets | 19:41 |
clarkb | then I guess we add the acme cnames | 19:41 |
ianw | right, i was thinking the level of "this is the names we'll need", so if higher level is ok then etherpad is ok | 19:41 |
fungi | yeah, but any where we want to move ssl to letsencrypt will need an additional cname each | 19:41 |
clarkb | those could push us over I suppose | 19:41 |
fungi | right, that's what i was considering as a risk | 19:41 |
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clarkb | fungi: ya in that case we should probably count the records we have now and estimate the total number of additions | 19:41 |
fungi | probably we should start with a list of which subdomain names we need to do this for | 19:42 |
clarkb | we'll also be deleting A and AAAA records | 19:42 |
clarkb | so it may end up balancing out | 19:42 |
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fungi | that's a great point | 19:42 |
fungi | A+AAAA vs 2xCNAME | 19:42 |
clarkb | we can sort those details out after the meeting | 19:43 |
fungi | sounds good | 19:43 |
clarkb | ianw was there other items to discuss around this spec? | 19:43 |
clarkb | sounds like no. Lets move on then | 19:45 |
ianw | i think that will suffice for now ... maybe we want to consider the volume generation on AFS but i think let's get this portion squared first since there's some momentum there | 19:45 |
clarkb | ++ | 19:45 |
clarkb | Next up is CentOS 8. I wanted to bring this up because we are continuing to struggle with Network Manager on ipv6 only clouds and we may want to point out to projects that the images exist once they are there to avoid late transitions like we've had with ubuntu in the past | 19:46 |
clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686474/ | 19:46 |
clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686749/ | 19:46 |
clarkb | are two glean changes that try to explicitly configure ipv6 for interfaces in NM to "trick" it into managing interfaces even if the kernel has gotten there first | 19:46 |
clarkb | I think they are actually ready at this point if people want to review them. We should also build a centos and fedora 29 image and boot them in FN and rax and ovh and ensure the various different setups work | 19:47 |
ianw | i've been out and haven't looked closely at that, sorry. it seems weird we're the only ones who have this problem (although from the old debian bug report, maybe we weren't) | 19:47 |
clarkb | I can help with getting test images built and booting on the various clouds (maybe we introduce a fault in the nodepool integration job then hold them and copy those images out) | 19:47 |
clarkb | ianw: ya I don't think we are the only ones | 19:47 |
clarkb | that bug has had a lot of traction over many years | 19:48 |
clarkb | ianw: and once we have centos8 images ready I think we should advertise that broadly and encourage people to start uplifting 7 to 8 to avoid the problems we've had with ubnutu | 19:50 |
fungi | i think it's more that there aren't a lot of folks continuously booting vast numbers of servers in the right kinds of environments | 19:50 |
clarkb | or at least start hitting the problems earlier | 19:50 |
fungi | and also that some projects (like cloud-init) may have worked around it with configuration | 19:50 |
ianw | i am merging the centos 8 stuff with review from cgoncalves; it is booting in integration tests, i don't expect too many issues | 19:50 |
clarkb | excellent | 19:51 |
ianw | we don't currently have an upstream .qcow2 image for the image-based builds, which some things use | 19:51 |
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ianw | cgoncalves has tested with his kickstart images, i believe, however | 19:51 |
clarkb | and we build it up from scratch | 19:51 |
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ianw | right, so yeah the first release will only be -minimal support | 19:52 |
ianw | also we took the path discussed on the infra list of not doing pip/virtualenv magic and leaving that up to jobs to configure | 19:53 |
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clarkb | that would be a good thing to note when we announce availability | 19:53 |
ianw | so it is a python-3 only image | 19:53 |
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clarkb | We are almost out of time. I wanted to point out I've started populating the ptg etherpad | 19:54 |
clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenDev-Shanghai-PTG-2019 | 19:54 |
ianw | i.e. "pip" and "virtualenv" don't exist ... that would be "pip3" and "python3 -m venv" | 19:54 |
clarkb | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ We have a schedule | 19:54 |
clarkb | ianw: good to know | 19:54 |
clarkb | There is also a published schedule now | 19:54 |
clarkb | I've not heard anything recently on my visa status. Not sure if a good or bad thing. Will wait patiently | 19:55 |
clarkb | I expect to hear back this week or next | 19:55 |
clarkb | And with that I'll open it up to all the things | 19:55 |
clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:55 |
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fungi | yeah, the embassy still has my passport, no word yet on whether they'll return it with a visa or without or demand more proof i should be allowed to visit | 19:56 |
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clarkb | And we are at time. Thank you everyone! | 19:59 |
corvus | clarkb: thanks! | 19:59 |
clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 8 19:59:46 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-10-08-19.01.html | 19:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-10-08-19.01.txt | 19:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-10-08-19.01.log.html | 19:59 |
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