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| abhishekk | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 26 14:00:26 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | looks like everyone is here today | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | lets start | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | #topic Updates | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| abhishekk | PTL nominations for Victoria cycle has started from today, and the last day for the nomination is 31st March | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | Interested members can submit there nominations within above time frame | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | With all your support, I am going to nominate myself again for this cycle | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | \o/ | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | 2nd update is we will be having Virtual PTG this time | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | kindly go through the discussion regarding the same | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2020-March/002854.html | 14:04 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | I have created a planning etherpad for glance, you can add your topics in this etherpad | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Glance-Victoria-PTG-planning | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | I will publish this etherpad through mail as well | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | Next week, or later we will discuss possible times and possible mode of meeting for this virtual meeting | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | any questions? | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, o/ | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | cool, moving ahead | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | #topic release/periodic jobs update | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release/periodic jobs update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:07 | |
| abhishekk | Final release for non-client libraries - 2 weeks away | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | For glance-store we need to get s3 support patch in before this | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | actually, i think it's next week? | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | the patch is in good shape | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | let me recheck | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | yep, next week | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | ok, so even more critical to get that reviewed | 14:09 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, getting close to the end of cycle crunch. | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk and jokke_ how are you set for time? | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | that patch has one +2 already from jokke_ | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | i can take a quick look, but not sure i can do a thorough review | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's good | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | yup, did couple of circles around it and I thing it's fine for now | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | great | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | I am also through for the patch | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | A couple follow up items, but nothing I thought was too critical. | 14:10 |
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| abhishekk | From client perspective we are good and everything important is merged | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: indeed, I was perfectly fine him following up with the couple of small things due to the time constrains ... the behaviour is ok | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | I will propose release notes patches for both store and client tomorrow | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | and then will propose release patch on monday morning | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | great | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | and the client deadline is not just yet, so if there is anything needed, we still have bit time with that | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:13 |
| smcginnis | Are there any feature changes we've merged on the service side that we need to make sure are in the client? Single store delete? | 14:13 |
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| abhishekk | smcginnis, that is already in | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: iirc that merged already in client | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | we should be all up to date as of now | 14:13 |
| smcginnis | Perfect! | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | we don't have anything for the client at the moment | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | the s3 store does not need anything form client side, nor does the decompression plugin | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | Regarding periodic jobs, couple of timeouts | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | but no subunit parser errors since last two weeks | 14:14 |
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| abhishekk | I will monitor the logs for timeouts later today | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: that sounds very good at this point of the cycle, so definite improvements with that subunitparser update | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | very nice | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, yes, it is | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | The original bug is closed now, I will mark it closed for glance as well | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:16 |
| smcginnis | Glad that has at least improved. | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | ++ | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead, rosmaita you are next | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | #topic deprecate admin_role | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "deprecate admin_role (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:16 | |
| rosmaita | yeah, so a question came up in the openstack questions thing | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | #link https://answers.launchpad.net/glance/+question/689450 | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | that person was having trouble configuring a policy file | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | turns out they were unaware of the sneaky glance admin_role option | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | i think that's a holdover from pre-policy days in bexar | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | and we should get rid of it | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/714626 | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | so i put up a spec lite to deprecate it | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | this way, all policy config will be done in one place | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | there's an alternative on the spec-lite if we don't want to remove it | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | but i think removal is best | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | (i will now pause for comments/questions) | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | But I think we should deprecate it now and remove it in next cycle 1st milestone | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | yes, that's what i meant by removal | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | Sounds good to me. | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | I'm not exactly convinced we should, knowing how many people refuses to change their ways and how many things in our API needs adminness, I'd prefer either defaulting to None or something in those lines. I do agree that the current default value can be problematic. Although I'd check if tempest has test for any of that because if they do we will just never be able to change that | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | ack, you added one line in the last | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | well, we could send an email to the ML asking if anyone is aware of that option | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | So changing the default value to something sensible, if we can would at least avoid us being yet again stuck with deprecated thing we can't get rid of due to QA | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | hmm, need to check tempest side | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | i doubt they make use of it | 14:22 |
| smcginnis | Even if it takes more than one release, it would at least be a good signal to everyone that that is not the preferred way to do things now. | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | besides, it matches what's in the default policy config | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | so that's why most people don't notice it | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | agree with smcginnis | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: it's not matter of more than one release, QA made very clear that default values can't be changed if they are included in tests (look default image visibility) | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: it's not exposed in devstack, so there's no way for tempest to use it | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | True, but at least eventually we can move away from it once all currently supported releases have had it deprecated. | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: ok, great, that's hopefull | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | I will reconfirm this and add comment on the patch | 14:26 |
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| jokke_ | so can we change that default value away from admin before release to get rid of that confusion now and we can then probe input if anyone is actually using/aware of it for deprecation? | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | moving into Open discussion | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | as in can we do both the deprecation and the alternative approach to speed up addressing the actual issue? | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | not sure | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | not ideal IMO | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | tell you what though | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | i can mention that in the deprecation release note | 14:28 |
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| abhishekk | That could be the good idea | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | that you should change it to some weird value and if something breaks, you are depending on it | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | s/the/a | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | maybe a good place to utilize the fancy upgrade test? | 14:30 |
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| jokke_ | to check if that value is actually set and alert we're trying ot get rid of it | 14:30 |
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| abhishekk | we should avoid this test at the moment I guess, we are just two weeks away from the release :P | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | i guess we could, but usually the deprecation note is thought to be sufficient | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | also, what abhishekk said | 14:31 |
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| rosmaita | i have time to do a quick release note, but not to get the upgrade check done and tested | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | because i think all we have right now is the stub? | 14:32 |
| abhishekk | and I started hating mocks and stubs since this morning | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | :D | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | :P | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | I guess jokke_ agrees to my last statement :D | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk did not believe me how impossible it is to make meaningful unit tests for the decompression plugin before he spent few hours trying :P | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | :P | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | oh btw!! | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | In the end I have mocked every function of that decompression class including inbuilt open method and even though that test was giving weird results | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | #topic Open discussion | 14:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:35 | |
| jokke_ | yes this one | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | so I found something disturbing while testing the decompression plugin | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | we need to refactor web download | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | what it is? | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | I don't know yet what in there blows and sucks at the same time but if you try to use it in python 3 against https:// url, it will blow up due to enventlet cert thingie | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | ohhh | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | yuck | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | so someone (me) has been very stupid when originally designing that plugin and how it actually does the fetch | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | Will have a look tomorrow morning first thing | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | thanks for the pointer | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | The other thing, i'm pretty confident that the decompression plugin PS is now ready to go ... we've been going back and forth with abhishekk on that and beating the horse dead frm pretty much every angle. It should be solid | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | I am confident about that now | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | I will give another try as a followup for unit test but not much confident above that | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | so smcginnis or rosmaita kindly have a look at that patch | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/714113 | 14:42 |
| smcginnis | Will do | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | cool | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | thanks | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | thank you | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | thanks | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | I have one question, what is the deadline to submit cycle highlights? | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | and the ps from half an hour ago contains docs and ren for it | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | reno | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | i think april 9 | 14:43 |
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| smcginnis | Yep | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, smcginnis ack | 14:43 |
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| abhishekk | I guess we are good for today | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012873.html | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | do we have anything else to discuss? | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | actually april 10 | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | nothing from me at least | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, thank you | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | me neither | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | Nothing from me. | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | cool, thank you all | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | have a nice weekend | 14:45 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! You too. | 14:45 |
| smcginnis | Stay safe. | 14:45 |
| smcginnis | And not too bored. | 14:45 |
| abhishekk | yes that's the priority | 14:45 |
| abhishekk | we are in 21 days lockdown | 14:45 |
| abhishekk | and today is just 2nd day of it | 14:45 |
| abhishekk | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 26 14:46:05 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-03-26-14.00.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-03-26-14.00.txt | 14:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-03-26-14.00.log.html | 14:46 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 26 15:00:16 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:00 |
| fungi | ohai | 15:00 |
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| gagehugo | #topic Open Discussion | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:04 | |
| gagehugo | It's been a quiet week | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | not sure if everyone is just hiding inside | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | fungi: do you have any updates? | 15:04 |
| fungi | oh, yep | 15:05 |
| fungi | so there's this git commit footer we've used traditionally in openstack to indicate when a change has a potential security impact | 15:05 |
| fungi | "SecurityImpact" | 15:05 |
| fungi | and we've got a gerrit hook script which fires on new changes with that in the commit message | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | ah | 15:06 |
| fungi | it was designed to send e-mail notifications to the openstack-security ml | 15:06 |
| fungi | but doesn't seem to have been doing so for many, many years | 15:06 |
| fungi | we've also not had any complaints, nobody's brought it to our attention and we just stumbled across the fact that it's not been working | 15:07 |
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| gagehugo | haah | 15:07 |
| fungi | so for now we're leaving it broken | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | haha* | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | ah ok | 15:07 |
| fungi | but i just wanted to make a record of that decision. we can try to fix it up, it will require some changes to our new gerrit deployment mechanism (which is why we happened to notice at all) | 15:08 |
| fungi | so if it's something folks want to have restored to working order it should be possible, but we'd rather wait to do that until we're done with the current storm of gerrit deployment changes and pending upgrades | 15:09 |
| fungi | so we don't have to fix things more than once | 15:09 |
| fungi | but also, if nobody really has a need for it, we'd like to drop it | 15:09 |
| fungi | (again not urgent, just something to mull over) | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | Could send out an email to fish for interest | 15:10 |
| fungi | the commit message tag does at least still continue to see use | 15:11 |
| fungi | there was a nova change merged a couple of weeks ago with it | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | ah ok | 15:12 |
| fungi | but even without the notification hook, that's still a useful pattern if for no other reason than filtering in gerrit queries for review dashboards or looking through commit histories | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | I see | 15:14 |
| fungi | other than that, i don't think we have a lot on the infra or vmt side | 15:17 |
| fungi | not since last week anyway | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | Been adjusting to working from home full time | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | so I don't really have too much | 15:17 |
| fungi | we're ~6 weeks from when a large number of stale embargoes will be expiring and some (in some cases very old) reports will become public | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | That's a good point, I'll mark that date on the agenda | 15:18 |
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| fungi | pretty sure that's may 9 | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:20 |
| fungi | no, my bad | 15:20 |
| fungi | may 27 | 15:20 |
| gagehugo | heh ok | 15:20 |
| fungi | this is what i put in all of the existing reports which were private at the time i went through them all: This embargo shall not extend past 2020-05-27 and will be made public by or on that date if no fix is identified. | 15:21 |
| fungi | so we're two months out from that still | 15:21 |
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| gagehugo | time flies though | 15:22 |
| fungi | i also added this comment to all of them: | 15:22 |
| fungi | In keeping with recent OpenStack vulnerability management policy changes, no report should remain under private embargo for more than 90 days. Because this report predates the change in policy, the deadline for public disclosure is being set to 90 days from today. If the report is not resolved within the next 90 days, it will revert to our public workflow as of 2020-05-27. Please see | 15:22 |
| fungi | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012721.html for further details. | 15:22 |
| fungi | i'll go through and add reminders to them soon | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | ok, thanks fungi | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | Do you have anything else for this week? | 15:26 |
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| fungi | i do not, no | 15:30 |
| fungi | just overbooked on this timeslot as usual, sorry again about the delayed responses :/ | 15:31 |
| gagehugo | thanks again fungi, have a good rest of the week | 15:31 |
| gagehugo | no worries :) | 15:31 |
| fungi | thanks gagehugo, you too! | 15:31 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 26 15:31:17 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-03-26-15.00.html | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-03-26-15.00.txt | 15:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-03-26-15.00.log.html | 15:31 |
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