Wednesday, 2021-03-31

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rosmaita#startmeeting cinder14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 31 14:00:58 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'14:01
rosmaita#topic roll call14:01
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rosmaita#endmeeting14:03
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"14:03
openstackMeeting ended Wed Mar 31 14:03:05 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:03
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2021/cinder.2021-03-31-14.00.txt14:03
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2021/cinder.2021-03-31-14.00.log.html14:03
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timburke#startmeeting swift21:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 31 21:00:21 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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timburkewho's here for the swift meeting?21:00
kota_hello21:00
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timburkeas usual, the agenda's at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift21:02
timburkemostly the same stuff as last week, but there's definitely some progress :-)21:03
timburke#topic PTG21:03
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timburkei finally got around to booking our room slots for next month21:03
timburkethey're a little more scattered than i'd meant (since i was late in doing it, things were fuller), but i updated the etherpad with the rooms & times21:04
timburke#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/swift-ptg-xena21:04
timburkespeaking of the etherpad, we all still need to add discussion topics ;-)21:04
mattoliveraucool, thanks for getting that done timburke21:04
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timburkei suspect there will be a decent bit of replication, sharding, relinker talk -- but if there are other things you're interested in, please add them!21:05
timburkespeaking of those...21:06
timburke#topic relinker21:06
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timburkeso we merged https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/781908 to prevent get_hashes from creating empty partitions...21:07
timburke...then fairly quickly discovered that the new checks for whether a suffix is valid or not were too strict (at least on py2)21:07
timburkethanks acoles for running that down yesterday and proposing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/784108 -- it's working its way through the gate now21:08
timburkeand if anyone sees a centos7 probe test failure on a patch in the next day or so, that may be why21:09
timburkethere are a couple other relinker patches i wanted to call attention too, though: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/769633 (for fanning out subprocesses to relink disks in parallel) and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/783731 (to track which partitions were actually updated when relinking and only rehash those ones)21:11
timburkethanks clayg for figuring out a mostly-sane way to mock out fork/wait for the disk parallelization21:11
timburkeso, things are moving; no immediate blockers21:13
timburkeany questions or comments?21:13
timburkeall right -- next up21:14
timburke#topic shrinking and sharding21:14
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timburkeacoles, i know we recently approved the repair and analyze commands patch, which was at the root of a chain or two21:15
timburkewhere are we now?21:15
acolesyes the repair command has merged https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/76562421:16
mattoliverau\o/21:16
acolesthanks mattoliverau and others ┬┤for reviews21:16
mattoliveraunps21:16
acolesthere's a couple of follow ups that I need to rebase, will do that tomorrow21:16
timburkesounds good21:17
mattoliverauI'm working through the new WIP extra ACTIVE states POC to see how that pans out for solving the quick shard shrink issue. Working through all the existing tests and want to write some more.21:17
acoleson shrinking...some progress on reporting tombstones https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/782832 but that's still WIIP21:17
timburkei was just about to ask mattoliverau about quick shard/shrinking :-) does it seem like more states are probably the way to go, then?21:19
mattoliveraumy WIP is: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/782903 but I haven't pushed up a new version yet. But will today, to at least get it off my computer.21:19
mattoliverauit is a little cleaner to be honest21:19
mattoliveraubecause were storing state with more info, which we can encode into timestamp offsets, but states where kinda made for that.21:20
mattoliverauIf anyone has any thoughts, better ideas then https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/swift-shrinking-active-age21:20
timburkecool. and acoles, i like the direction with tombstone counting -- it's nice that we get it pretty much "for free"21:20
mattoliverauOr just want more info. I'll make sure that etherpad is updated today21:21
acolestimburke: yep, on that one I need to work through all the plumbing21:21
timburkegreat. any blockers or discussion points for any of that work? or questions that others have about it?21:22
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mattoliveraufor anyone who wants to see acoles analyze in action, I have added a --analyze to my hacked up graph viewer script.21:23
mattoliverauhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/77506621:24
mattoliverauwhich pipes it through the analyze and then draws that patch on the graph in green.21:24
timburkecool. i've been meaning to try that out21:25
acolesmattoliverau: nice!21:25
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timburkethose are the main topics i had21:26
timburke#topic open discussion21:26
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timburkewhat else should we bring up this week?21:26
timburkei brought the same retry-failed functionality to func tests that we've had for a bit now with unit and probe tests: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/78309121:27
timburkehopefully that'll further reduce how often we need to recheck, and allow us to merge patches faster/more reliably21:28
acolesgreat21:29
mattoliverauNice21:29
mattoliverauI've been doing a bit of recon stuff lately, so have also gone and done this: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/783997 in the hopes to clean it up a little.21:30
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zaitcevI was tinkering with recon too, wanted to add --sharding. I'm surprised it didin't exist before, because the middleware has the support, just not the CLI.21:31
mattoliverauthanks for the review on that timburke21:31
timburkemattoliverau, happy to! i like the idea; it was probably overdue21:31
timburkezaitcev, good thought!21:31
mattoliverauyeah, I believe I had a patch to plumb through reconstructor somewhere too (from years ago) not sure it ever landed.21:31
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timburkeseems like we covered most of the things people wanted to talk about21:35
timburkedo people generally feel like they get enough value out of this meeting to block off the time every week? i sometimes feel like i'm mostly repeating myself from the week before, and wonder if an every-other-week cadence would be better21:36
zaitcevWe don't have another meeting point aside from IRC, don't we.21:36
zaitcevSo, I had to bring things up in the meeting at times, to the extent of editing the agenda wiki.21:37
timburkewhich is great! by all means, always feel free to add items to the agenda21:37
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acolestimburke: I'm ok with it, but we shouldn't feel we have to fill an hour - if there is nothing new, but it may still be good for people to have chance to touch base21:38
acolesat the same time, its pretty lat ein the evening for me so I'd be happy with a 2 week cadence21:39
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timburkewell, it's a discussion we can keep thinking about. i bet we'll talk about it again at the ptg, at the latest :-)21:40
timburkebut on that note21:41
timburkethank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift!21:41
timburke#endmeeting21:41
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