Tuesday, 2021-10-12

yasufumhi, tacker team08:01
yasufum#startmeeting tacker08:03
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yasufumIs there any topic today?08:04
takahashi-tscI'd like to confim how to write topicas in Yoga PTG etherpad, and when should we finish to write them.08:06
takahashi-tscI think, yasufum want to make schedule...08:07
yasufumI’d appreciate if you update for proposal before the end of this week.08:08
yasufum#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-yoga-ptg08:08
takahashi-tscThanks, and we write the topics before "Day1", right?08:09
takahashi-tsclike hirofumi-noguchi.08:10
yasufumI understand your point.08:12
yasufumI’ve expected you add topics from day 1 as previous etherpad.08:14
yasufum#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-xena-ptg08:14
takahashi-tscWe write topics in Day1 section, and you(yasufum) move some topics to Day2 and Day3.08:16
takahashi-tscIs it correct?08:16
yasufumIt’s OK, but you can put your topic in day2 or 3 by yourself.08:19
yasufumIt’s FIFO basically.08:19
takahashi-tscUnderstood, thanks.08:20
yasufumWe can talk about the order of topics at the start of 1st day if it’s required.08:21
hirofumi-noguchiI understood too. I will move my topics below the day section.08:22
yasufumok, thanks08:24
manpreetkyasufum: Just a quick query in Yoga etherpad there is link for schedule (http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html)  where I could see tacker meetings on Tuesday, Thursday and Friday  is this correct.08:25
manpreetkOr this page is still updating?08:25
yasufumI’ve just found that some timeslots are reserved incorrectly. I have to update by my self.08:26
manpreetkThanks for sharing08:26
yasufumOur correct schedule is here. I’d update ptg’s page as described in this sheet. 08:29
yasufum#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/8tum5yl1bx4308:29
yasufumIs there any other comment?08:31
manpreetkThanks, nothing from my side.08:31
yasufumOK, seems nothing.08:33
yasufumSee you next week in vPTG session, bye!08:34
takahashi-tscthanks, bye!08:35
uehathanks, bye!08:35
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oneswig#startmeeting scientific-sig21:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Tue Oct 12 21:00:25 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
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oneswigI mean, ahoy...21:00
martialhello as well :)21:01
oneswigHey martial21:02
oneswig#chair martial21:02
opendevmeetCurrent chairs: martial oneswig21:02
oneswigI've been enjoying a hands-on week this week, how about you21:02
martialstill trying to figure out SC2121:03
martialbefore I forget the Etherpad link we discussed is at 21:03
martial#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/202110-PTG_ScientificSIG_LightingTalks21:03
oneswigNice, thanks martial21:04
martialit is very much a to fill blurb but it is ready21:04
oneswigHave you thought of a talk topic yet?21:05
martialfor the lighting talks? not yet21:06
oneswigI've recently done some work on storage performance benchmarking which might be worth sharing21:06
martialthat sounds really cool21:07
martialI just posted the link on our slack as well21:07
b1airohey gang. lurking - in another meeting as usual (and catching up on leave)21:07
oneswigHi b1airo, morning21:08
oneswig#chair b1airo21:08
opendevmeetCurrent chairs: b1airo martial oneswig21:08
martialwelcome Blair, any topic you are presenting ?21:09
oneswigb1airo: we are talking lightning talks21:09
trandleshi folks...also lurking21:09
oneswighi trandles (same question to you...)21:10
b1airoi could maybe volunteer Sean for a lightning talk21:10
b1airo(overview of our new OpenStack based "FlexiHPC" platform)21:11
trandlesUnfortunately not. I could drone on for an hour about what happens with a program manager quits and the new one comes in and halts everything because they have a different vision than the last person.21:11
oneswigtrandles: sympathies21:12
oneswigWhat about when you have two program managers?  It's like having two watches21:13
trandlesOh, I haven't experienced two program managers on the _same_ program. That doesn't sound like fun.21:14
oneswigIt's generally true that you can have too much of a good thing21:14
oneswigI don't think that's a topic for a lightning talk however21:15
oneswigThis week, Michal from our team is joining OpenInfra live to talk about scaling Neutron21:17
oneswigIt should be a good session21:18
oneswigI'm working through the OpenStack runes for using erasure coded pools with RBD (Glance, Cinder-Backup in this instance).  Surprisingly lightly documented...21:23
martialthe code it is strong with this one :)21:24
b1airois there anything particularly special in that regard oneswig ?21:28
oneswigJust unfamiliar with the magic needed to have an EC data pool and a replicated meta pool.21:30
trandlesI could nominate Chris Layton from ORNL to talk about their "birthright" computing concept and how they manage it. The idea is any scientist at ORNL is entitled to some amount of free quota in their cloud to use as they see fit.21:32
oneswigNice name for it.  Do you get more quota if you have more kids?21:33
trandlesThere's operational stuff there, like oversubscription, allowing folks to combine their birthright allocations to create larger projects, temporarily granting people an increased quota, and clawing back unused allocations.21:33
trandlesI think it's a neat concept. It gives people the ability to get work done at a scale larger than their laptop at zero cost to them. It also allows people to take risks and try things they might not be willing to try to write into a grant proposal.21:35
martialsounds very interesting indeed21:35
martialeveryone gets their own project?21:35
trandlesyes, everyone gets their own project21:37
oneswigThis was a use case that CERN articulated, and led to some feature requests around hierarchical projects and nested quotas.21:40
martialexactly what I was wondering: how do "users" collaborate on a common task, quota wise this must be add some complexity?21:41
oneswigAnything more to add today?21:50
martialnot much beside21:51
martialwe have posted the link to the Etherpad on Slack, please follow up there if you intend to do a lighting talk, we do not yet have an idea of time21:51
martial(given that we will be running on Google Meet again, so I can start/end when I want)21:51
oneswigOK, thanks martial21:53
oneswigLet's close it there21:53
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oneswigthanks all!21:53

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