Wednesday, 2013-11-13

jog0anteaya: so a big chunk of the gate instability is from neutron00:01
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gatuushelp plz: neutron.agent.l3_agent Timeout: Timeout while waiting on RPC response - topic: "ipsec_driver", RPC method: "get_vpn00:05
gatuus_services_on_host" info: "<unknown>"  ??00:05
jog0as seen on http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/00:06
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Optionally delete namespaces when they are no longer needed  https://review.openstack.org/5611400:10
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Optionally delete namespaces when they are no longer needed  https://review.openstack.org/5611400:15
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gatuusVPNaaS anyone?00:51
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gatuusneutron vpn-service-list (Enter) :01:00
gatuusid                                   | name          | router_id                            | status         |01:00
gatuus+--------------------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------------+----------------+01:00
gatuus| 1f56e857-6d0e-49ba-af18-fc718d70ba4f | VPNTestingONE | 46d8277f-4fce-42b7-84a0-31634d32da6b | PENDING_CREATE01:00
gatuuspending create why?? =(01:01
gatuusget_vpn_services_on_host" info: "<unknown>  .  has something to do with it?01:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Remove the warning for Scheduling Network  https://review.openstack.org/5579302:12
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openstackgerritDong Liu proposed a change to openstack/neutron: After bulk create send DHCP notification  https://review.openstack.org/5516403:22
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* anteaya checks elastic-recheck04:37
anteayagatuus: let's use paste.openstack.org for code output and then post the url of the paste in channel04:37
anteayagatuus: then the code is in one place and is easier for someone to see it04:38
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anteayajog0: I confirm 4 neutron bugs are contributing to gate instability currently (based on the elastic-recheck status page)04:57
anteayasalv-orlando: is working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/122400104:58
anteayarkukura: is working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/123548604:58
anteayaand armax has both https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1239637 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/124425504:59
anteayaso they are all assigned and all four have activity on them05:00
anteayaI wonder what the best approach is, should we focus on one bug and gather resources, like attention, discussion and reviews and then move onto the next?05:00
anteayawhat would help you the most in addressing these bugs salv-orlando, rkukura and armax?05:01
openstackgerritJoe Mills proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Midonet to support port association at floating IP creation  https://review.openstack.org/5579205:09
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openstackgerritÉdouard Thuleau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add l3 quota flags in the config file sample  https://review.openstack.org/5607606:24
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/5468006:38
openstackgerritÉdouard Thuleau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add missing quota flags in the config file sample  https://review.openstack.org/5607606:46
openstackgerritÉdouard Thuleau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add missing quota flags in the config file sample  https://review.openstack.org/5607606:48
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sgrangood morning07:25
sgranI'm just curious what's going on with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40381/07:25
sgranI'm writing a LBaaS driver, and I don't want to do too much more before I see what's happening with that07:26
openstackgerritEvgeny Fedoruk proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Adding more tests and fixes driver as a result  https://review.openstack.org/5415507:28
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anteayamorning sgran07:39
sgrangood morning07:40
anteayahave you spoken with obondarev?07:40
sgranI have not07:40
sgranI've just now asked here :)07:40
anteayagood place to begin07:41
anteayalet's see if obondarev is about07:41
anteayaand might be able to share their thoughts07:41
sgranthat would be cool07:41
anteayait looks like the patch is close to being approved07:41
sgranyes, my concern is that it's been in that state for about 2 weeks07:42
anteayaah ha07:42
doudeobondarev: Hi07:42
anteayalet's ping a couple reviewers and find out what is necessary to get it merged07:42
sgranI've got another patch working, but with lots of duplicated code from the haproxy driver07:42
sgranif that gets merged, I can refactor mine07:42
sgranbut I'm in a bit of a holding pattern for now07:43
sgranit's ok, I always have lots of other stuff to do :)07:43
anteayawhat happens if you pull down this patch and create a dependency on it07:43
sgranbut I'm getting to the point where I need to get on with it07:43
anteayasgran: do you know how to do that?07:43
sgranoh, sure07:43
anteayaright07:43
anteayahow would you feel about that suggestion?07:43
sgranbut the point is to see which way things go first07:43
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anteayalet me see what I can do to ping some of the other reviewers07:44
anteayaZhiQiang Fan doesn't have an irc nick listed in their Foundation Profile07:45
anteayaif anyone knows this person, please ask them to join IRC and update their Foundation Profile with their nick07:45
anteayaneither does Xiang Hui, so same request for that person07:46
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enikanorovhi folks07:47
anteayahi enikanorov07:47
enikanorovwhat review were you discussing?07:47
anteayahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/40381/07:47
anteayayou have already voted07:47
sgrananteaya: it's not a huge rush :)07:47
anteayathank you for that07:47
enikanorovyeah, that one expects core reviewrs for quite a long time07:48
anteayasgran: I am feeling there is a lack of momentum on many of the reviews07:49
anteayathe stats for reviews indicate a long wait for reviews07:49
anteayaand I am not seeing a lot of internal discussion amoung developers07:49
enikanorovpre/after summit period. I think things start getting better soon07:49
anteayaand there is less cross-project discussion in this project compared to others07:49
anteayaI think these are contributing factors to the lack of working tempest tests in neutron07:50
anteayaenikanorov: this project is slower to get started than others07:50
anteayanova, infra, qa, and tripleo are all back into discussion and work mode07:50
anteayaplus some reviewers are not on irc07:51
anteayaI think that is a problem07:51
anteayaI am not pointing fingers07:51
anteayaI came in here to help07:51
anteayathese are some of the things I am seeing07:51
anteayaif we are going to make progress on working tempest tests for icehouse-1, the culture of waiting needs to be addressed07:52
anteayaand I am trying to help that07:53
enikanorovit's supposed that tempest tests should allow core reviewers to +2 with more confidence07:54
enikanorovand hence, faster07:54
anteayaright07:55
anteayaso lack of tests lowers our confidence and drags out the entire process07:55
anteayaso we are stuck in the mud until we address it07:55
anteayamy focus is progress on tempest tests, but I think there are larger, addressable issues07:56
anteayathe first and most important is communication07:56
anteayaI am finding that neutron people don't know who other neutron people are07:56
anteayathat makes it hard to ping someone to talk07:56
enikanorovwell, I think you could raise this point at neutron meeting07:57
anteayathank you07:59
anteayaI'll add that to the agenda07:59
obondarevanteaya: hi08:06
obondarevanteaya: can update on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40381/08:07
obondarevhave an agreement with markmcclain that it should be merged early in icehouse08:08
obondarevmarkmcclain: hi08:09
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anteayaenikanorov: what do you think? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Neutron_Tempest08:14
anteayaobondarev: hello08:15
anteayagreat thank you08:15
anteayaobondarev: awesome thanks, is there anything you are waiting for? of if the code is ready it can go in?08:15
anteayaso markmcclain if you want to email me the list of folks who have indicated interest in the code sprint, I can take over management of that list08:18
enikanorovanteaya: first three bullets seem reasonable, the last one i think is of less importance. I think most of folks who are into openstack for 2+ months know the names08:18
anteayahmmm, they why don't people talk to each other more?08:18
enikanorovobondarev: will you be interested in code sprint?08:18
enikanorovanteaya: well, i think we're communicating if it's needed. plus those regular meetings subteams are having08:19
enikanorovmost of us work within our companies and we have our own teams to communicate to08:20
enikanorovand some times we just want to write the code :)08:20
anteayayeah08:20
anteayaI can see that08:20
anteayawhich works for what you want08:21
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anteayabut creates large gaps in areas that are important to other projects08:21
doudeobondarev: ping08:21
enikanorovwell, it always good if someone is willing to fill such gap08:22
anteayawe all have to fill the gap08:23
anteayabecause if you are convinced the gap doesn't affect you, you aren't paying attention to what is happening with the rest of openstack08:23
anteayaneutron working in isolation is a real problem08:24
anteayacommunication styles influence the kind of code that is written08:24
anteayaright now neutron developers don't want to work with other projects08:24
anteayaand neutron code doesn't work with other projects08:24
anteayaand the only way to address that is to have the people writing the neutron code talking to people in other opentstack projects08:25
anteayaonly after neutron developers work with other projects will they be able to write code that interacts well with other projects08:26
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5616308:26
anteayaobondarev: are there any road blocks to merging 40381? or can it go in after two cores +2 it?08:30
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obondarevanteaya: the patch is ready for review, just waiting for core reviewers as you said08:35
openstackgerritJiajun Liu proposed a change to openstack/neutron: remove openvswitch plugin dependency from ovs_lib module  https://review.openstack.org/5521008:35
anteayaobondarev: awesome thank you08:35
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anteayaI will see if salv-orlando and markmcclain can find time in the next day or so for a review apiece08:36
anteayathanks for letting me know08:36
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obondarevenikanorov: need to know more about the code sprint first08:37
anteayasure08:38
obondarevdoude: pong08:38
anteayaI am planning it and need to pull together a budget08:38
anteayaI am looking at the 2nd week of January (after linux au) in Montreal, QC, Canada08:38
doudeobondarev: I saw your review on small fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56076/4 but I don't understand your comment08:39
doudeCan you explain me ?08:39
anteayaright now I have about 14 names of interested people, not commitments yet since people need to get approval, find funds and such08:39
anteayathe goal is to meet and work for 3 days and address the situation with neutron tempest tests, get the tests in existance passing08:40
anteayaand work on writing new tempest tests (that are also good tests)08:40
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anteayasalv-orlando markmcclain sdague and mtreinish all hope to attend (again waiting for approvals)08:40
anteayathe event is vendor neutral so I will be issuing white t-shirts for people showing up with logo shirts08:41
obondarevdoude: oh, these are just minor nits: I think 'negative value' is more clear than 'minus'. But probably it's just my lack of english knowledge:)08:41
anteayaand I need to submit my budget to the foundation since I want the money for the event to come from the foundation08:41
anteayaMark doesn't have any budget for it since this went from idea to announcement on the Friday of summit08:42
anteayabe we talked and he is supportive, so if I can get a reasonable budget to him in a timely fashion I feel that he will do his best to have the foundation sponsor it08:42
anteayaobondarev: does that information help?08:43
doudeobondarev: ha Ok! My poor english too could not answer this comments. But I juste use same sentence as in file https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/quota.py#L4108:44
obondarevanteaya: Yes, thanks for the info, I'm very interested in this too08:45
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anteayaobondarev: great send me an email at anteaya@anteaya.info subject "Neutron Tempest code sprint" so I can add you to the list08:46
anteayahey jorisroovers08:46
openstackgerritÉdouard Thuleau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Linux device name can have '@' or ':' characters  https://review.openstack.org/5427308:46
obondarevanteaya: sure, thanks!08:46
anteayaI will do a follow up email to those interested requesting specifics like shirt size and meal requirements and such08:46
anteayajust say hi in this one and that will do08:46
anteayathank you for being interested08:46
openstackgerritÉdouard Thuleau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Linux device name can have '@' or ':' characters  https://review.openstack.org/5427308:47
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jorisroovershi anteaya08:52
jorisrooversalready up or still awake?08:52
anteayahad a nap that became 8 hours of sleep way too early in my evening and up now08:53
anteayagoing to try to shut my eyes for the golden time between 4 and 708:53
anteayaso I am soon off to bed again08:53
jorisroovers:-)08:53
anteayaobondarev doude and enikanorov are up, perhaps you can introduce yourself to them and work on running tox tests against the services in your devstack08:54
anteayaif you get stuck ask in here or in -dev08:54
anteayaI'll be back in a few hours08:54
anteayasound okay, jorisroovers?08:54
jorisrooversyep08:54
jorisrooversI need to take care of some other stuff today as well08:55
jorisrooversso I'll see when I can make some time, but sounds perfect, thanks!08:55
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anteayathank you08:55
anteayaokay, off now, back later08:56
anteayathanks08:56
openstackgerritberlin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support advanced NVP IPsec VPN Service  https://review.openstack.org/5520709:02
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement testing of migrations  https://review.openstack.org/4859409:26
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krast1anteaya: thx~ weechat is useful09:28
rossella_santeaya: hi, I'd like to join you guys in Montreal in January, where can I find more info?09:33
openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add testing of migrations from oslo  https://review.openstack.org/4692709:39
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Update lockutils and fixture in openstack.common  https://review.openstack.org/4755709:45
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openstackgerritDong Liu proposed a change to openstack/neutron: After bulk create send DHCP notification  https://review.openstack.org/5516409:48
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wenjianhnneed review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45400/609:52
wenjianhnthe above patch only added a unit test09:52
wenjianhnAdded test_handle_router_snat_rules_add_rules09:53
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Delegate port creation to the plugin driver  https://review.openstack.org/4139610:31
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openstackgerritDazhao Yu proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Calculate stateless IPv6 address  https://review.openstack.org/5618410:43
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Move Loadbalancer Noop driver to the unit tests.  https://review.openstack.org/5618710:58
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anteayakrast1 glad it works for you12:31
anteayarossella_s: glad to have you12:31
anteayastart by reading the neutron log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2013-11-13.log12:32
anteayatimestamp: 2013-11-13T08:38:2012:32
anteayawhere I explain to obondarev what is happening so far and how to indicate your desire to be involved12:33
anteayaif you have additional questions let me know, happy to help12:33
rossella_santeaya: thanks12:34
rossella_sI think I'm on the list already, I volunteered during the summit12:35
rossella_sI will wait for the follow up email then ;)12:36
anteayarossella_s: awesome, I need to contact a provider of accomodation, I hope to do that today and at least know where we have a grouping of rooms12:37
anteayathat is my next step12:37
rossella_sgreat, thanks for taking care of this and let me know if I can help!12:37
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anteayaawesome thank you12:46
anteayarossella_s: where are you based?12:46
* anteaya hopes for Montreal12:46
rossella_santeaya: far away, barcelona12:47
anteayathat is okay12:47
anteayaI might get you to help me compose and email to the group together with me12:47
anteayawe can use an etherpad12:47
rossella_syes12:48
rossella_slet's do that :)12:48
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anteayarossella_s: great thanks12:51
anteayarossella_s: what are you working on right now, and how can I help you?12:51
rossella_santeaya: thanks for offering your help…since I don't know much about tempest I am adding some unit test to the floating ip test case. I am almost done. Maybe you could have a look at the code review when I'll send it12:53
anteayaI can look yes, learning more about tempest myself12:53
anteayaare you also in -qa?12:54
anteayano you aren't, can you /join #openstack-qa, please?12:54
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dimssalv-orlando, anteaya - update from that nova/neutron change from yesterday - i may have stabilized gate-tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-large-ops - 4 straight SUCCESS runs so far - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56075/12:56
anteayaw00t!12:57
anteayadims you rock12:57
dimsanteaya, let's see if it sticks!12:58
sc68calHey, is there any documentation on how to set up eavesdrop and anything else for a subteam meeting? Trying to see if I can get the IPv6 subteam meeting on IRC on thursdays12:58
dimssc68cal, better to ask on #openstack-infra for pointers (i don't know)13:00
anteayadims: I see 2 good jenkins runs and a good smokestack run, how do I get to see four straight SUCCESS runs?13:00
sc68caldims: thanks13:00
anteayasc68cal: I am infra13:00
dimshttp://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiIgYnVpbGRfbmFtZTpcImdhdGUtdGVtcGVzdC1kZXZzdGFjay12bS1uZXV0cm9uLWxhcmdlLW9wc1wiIEFORCBtZXNzYWdlOlwiRmluaXNoZWQ6XCIgQU5EIGJ1aWxkX2NoYW5nZTpcIjU2MDc1XCIiLCJmaWVsZHMiOltdLCJvZmZzZXQiOjAsInRpbWVmcmFtZSI6Ijg2NDAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJ0aW1lIjp7InVzZXJfaW50ZXJ2YWwiOjB9LCJtb2RlIjoiIiwiYW5hbHl6ZV9maWVsZCI6IiIsInN0YW1wIjoxMzg0MzQ3MTMxNDgxfQ==13:00
anteayasc68cal: so where is the meeting taking place?13:00
anteayaif it is in either -meeting or -meeting-alt the meetings are logged by meetbot13:01
sc68calanteaya: shooting for Thurs 2100UTC in alt13:01
sc68calsince the slot is open13:01
anteayajust use the meeting commands13:01
anteayasc68cal: okay add yourself to the calendar so the slot is reserverd13:01
anteayattx filed a bug on the calendar filing which I took so I am looking for easier ways to do this in future13:02
sc68calanteaya: OK - I added it to the wiki, is there doc for adding to the calendar13:02
sc68calsorry to take up your time13:02
anteayano, I moved in here since the need is large in neutron13:02
anteayacan you link me to the wiki page you changed so I can see where you are13:03
anteayamorning and no food yet, so foggy brain still13:03
sc68calsure, no worries13:04
dimsanteaya, count is upto 5 runs now13:04
sc68calanteaya: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Neutron_IPv6_sub-team_Meeting13:05
anteayadims yay, can you hit me with a url shortened version13:05
anteayathe weechat can handle line wrapping for urls13:05
anteayaat least I haven't found out how to do it13:05
rdohi all, anyone know the status of the hybridOVS driver future? e.g. a VIF driver that can implement security groups but doesn't rely on a Linux bridge?13:06
dimsanteaya, http://bit.ly/HXCxdq13:07
anteayadims thanks13:07
anteayardo hi there13:07
pasquier-srdo, you mean security groups implemented by openflow rules?13:08
anteayardo do you have a blueprint, code or an etherpad about it?13:08
pasquier-srdo, there is a blueprint => https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ovs-firewall-driver13:08
anteayadims go you!13:08
salv-orlandodims: that would be good. I honestly did not expect the keystone round trips to be that bad13:10
salv-orlandobut that would definitely relieve pressure13:10
anteayamorning/afternoon salv-orlando13:10
salv-orlandoit's 1 PM here, I've been busy doing expenses and stuff in the mornign13:10
anteayayay expenses, I have to do that too13:11
anteayabest part of a trip13:11
rdoanteaya pasquier-s sorry, phone rang.. yeah, on about perhaps security groups implemented by OVS flows instead of iptables13:12
anteayasalv-orlando: can you add https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40381/ to your list of patches to review soon?13:12
anteayaseems the code is ready to go after you and markmcclain have a look, and if you agree it is good13:13
anteayasgran is waiting on it to merge13:13
anteayaso (s)he can do a patch that builds on it13:13
dimssalv-orlando, yeah me too13:13
rdothanks pasquier-s that's what I'm looking for13:14
anteayaI don't know what genders people are so I err on the side of both unless I know differently13:14
openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Sync models with migrations  https://review.openstack.org/5541113:20
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anteayasc68cal: I am assuming you followed all that?13:24
anteayanow to ensure you know the meeting commands13:24
anteayado you have access to that info or can I help you find it?13:25
anteayaokay folks icehouse-1 is on December 5th: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule13:25
sgrananteaya: in this case, I am a he, but yeah, always a safe way to do it :)13:25
anteayasgran: great, thanks for letting me know13:26
anteayaicehouse-1, 16 working days including today - or 3 weeks13:26
anteayaanything targetted for icehouse-1 had better have a plan to be started or be started by the end of this week13:27
sgrannod, thanks13:27
* anteaya emphasises testing13:28
sgranI have a plan - it's jsut a question of whether I can get the code ready in time :)13:28
anteayasgran: no problem13:28
anteayasgran: if you hit any obstacles or need to discussing timing please mention it, so I can do what I can to help13:28
anteaya*discuss13:28
sgranthank you, much appreciated.  I'm sure I will have things I need help with :)13:29
anteayagreat13:30
anteayaI am going to try to get in a morning walk, will read scrollback/logs when I return13:30
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sgranhmm, I do have one question about the LBaaS agent13:45
sgranit seems to cache information about devices in memory13:45
sgranI have not tested, so I might be wrong, but intuitively, that says to me that there will be problems scaling it laterally13:45
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mesteryanteaya: Any update on the Tempest Summit in Montreal in January? I haven't seen emails about it yet.14:05
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sc68calanteaya: sorry, had to step away for a second14:12
sc68calreading now14:12
sc68calthanks for the help14:13
mesterysc68cal: Reading the logs, were you able to secure a spot for the IPV6 meeting?14:14
sc68calmestery: Hey! Yeah, anteaya helped me over in infra - sounds like it's a manual process14:14
* mestery nods.14:14
sc68cal2100 UTC on Thursdays - since nobody objected14:14
mesteryBut it's fairly easy.14:14
mesteryCool.14:14
sc68caljust need to keep the momentum up, otherwise it just slides back under the waves14:15
mesteryYup.14:15
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openstackgerritÉdouard Thuleau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add missing quota flags in the config file sample  https://review.openstack.org/5607614:48
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anteayamestery: I have a venue tentatively booked, I want to get a handle on a block of rooms14:56
anteayamestery: and you are correct time for an email to the list14:56
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anteayarossella_s: if you are still around can you start an etherpad for the email to the list, just write down everything you know and then post the link in channel. I will work with you on the edits and we will get something posted today14:57
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anteayaof course I hope discussion results from the etherpad as well14:57
mesteryanteaya: Awesome, thanks!14:58
rossella_santeaya: let me do that. I don't know much though but I will write what I know14:58
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anteayarossella_s: thank you14:58
anteayamestery: :D thanks for the reminder14:58
anteayasgran can you elaborate on your concerns and perhaps include link to blueprint, patch or bug report so we can all discuss?14:59
rossella_santeaya: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/hcdlXNDHZx15:00
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anteayarossella_s: awesome thank you!15:04
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Optionally delete namespaces when they are no longer needed  https://review.openstack.org/5611415:13
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anteayarossella_s: what do you think?15:26
anteayamestery: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/hcdlXNDHZx15:26
anteayaany input?15:26
rossella_santeaya: LGTM15:27
anteayarossella_s: great thanks15:29
anteayamestery: ?15:29
anteayaanyone else?15:29
sgrananteaya: no blueprno blueprint as yet.  I wanted to talk about it to firm up my ideas first15:33
openstackgerritenikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Move Loadbalancer Noop driver to the unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/5618715:34
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sgranbut the basic idea I have is that services should be able to scale horizontally, so it should be possible to run more than one agent to configure your expensive, highly resilient hardware load balancer15:35
sgranso that if one API server dies, the other(s) can continue on15:36
mesteryanteaya: Looks good, gathering a list of folks from my side who I want to attend this.15:36
sgranin memory caches are one anti-pattern I that makes this difficult15:36
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sgranI see the agent_manager doing things like storing a list of known devices in self.devices, which is what concerned me15:43
anteaya+1 for scaling horizontally15:49
anteayamestery: awesome15:49
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Preserve floating ips when initializing l3 gateway interface  https://review.openstack.org/5219915:50
anteayasgran: what would be some alternates to in memory caches?15:50
sgranactive/passive patterns, locking, scheduler assignments, ...15:51
sgranie, for more than one, you could configure and/or mark one as active, with others as failover15:51
sgranor you could have the agents coordinate and lock when theyre doing changes15:51
sgranor, you could have the scheduler select one as primary and try to use it first, and only use the others if that one is stale15:52
sgranor, I'm sure there's others :)15:52
sgranI can see that having 2 LBaaS agents configuring the same LB differently could be interesting, so you want to avoid that15:53
anteayaall good thoughts15:55
sgranI can see that there needs to be some stickiness for the haproxy on-host agent, since the LB is on the same host as the agent, so if you lose the agent you lose the LB15:55
anteayasgran: would you be willing to start an etherpad capturing these thoughts?15:55
sgranbut I'm not convinced it needs to be in the generic top-level driver15:55
sgransure, maybe not this minute15:55
anteayathen I could point people at it and we can get the ideas on thet table15:55
sgrancrappy conference wifi :)15:55
anteayasgran: fair enough15:55
anteayayup15:55
anteayawhat conference?15:55
sgranlets see what I can do15:55
anteayathanks15:56
sgranhttp://velocityconf.com/velocityeu201315:56
anteayaah ilya is there15:56
anteayaprobably how I heard about it15:56
anteayahave you met him yet?15:56
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anteayarossella_s: can you check your nick at the bottom of: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/hcdlXNDHZx15:58
anteayaI want to ensure it is correct before I send15:59
rossella_santeaya: yes it is, thanks15:59
sgranI think I just went to a talk given by Ilya16:01
anteayasgran: what did you think?16:02
anteayarossella_s: awesome thanks, I will post to the ml16:02
sgrananteaya: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/multiple_LBaaS_agents16:02
sgranhe is quite good, I think :)16:02
sgranwifi suddenly started working nicely, so I brain dumped16:02
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anteayathanks for the etherpad, it looks good16:03
sgranplease feel free to poke16:03
anteayabest use of an etherpad16:03
anteayailya is one of the smartest people I know16:03
anteayahe was the first to say hello to me at my first tech meeting16:03
anteayahe is the reason I went to the second one16:03
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anteayaI'm going to encourage people to put there author name on etherpads16:04
anteayahelps the discussion if I know who I am talking to/with16:04
anteaya*their16:04
sgranI've made a comment on the review (I know, after asking for it to be merged, I raise an objection.  Go me)16:05
anteayasgran: object now16:06
sgranthere.  I've added my name16:06
anteayasgran: thanks16:06
anteayasgran: who to you need to talk to to address your concern?16:06
anteayaare they in irc?16:06
sgranI'd just like some feedback that my concerns are valid, first :)16:07
sgranif they are, I'm happy to talk about and/or implement ways to get around them16:07
anteayasgran sorry up in the top right corner of the etherpad you see a coloured sqare with the number 216:11
anteayaclick it to see a drop down list of who is viewing the etherpad at the same time as you16:12
anteayaawesome thanks16:12
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sgranno sweat :)16:12
anteayaand yes adding other info to the etherpad helps16:12
anteayaand there is a history button as well16:12
anteaya:D16:12
sgran:)16:12
anteayaobondarev: are you around?16:15
anteayasgran has some concerns on 4038116:16
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sgrananteaya: thanks for your help.  I think I'm dropping off for a bit here16:31
sgranmy IRC client is in a screen, so please leave any comments for me and I'll pick them up later16:32
anteayasgran: can do16:32
anteayahave fun at the conference16:32
sgranthanks :)16:32
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manishgI am planning to help out with unit tests for neutron.  It would be great to know which areas have less coverage (or no coverage at all) and which tests cases are already in progress (to avoid duplication of effort).  What would be a good place to start to get this info?  Any pointers are appreciated.16:41
anteayamanishg: welcome16:49
anteayayou ask some very good questions16:49
anteayaI don't have that information yet16:49
anteayabut I need to have that don't I16:49
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anteayamanishg: in the meantime can you review this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45400/6/neutron/tests/unit/test_l3_agent.py16:52
anteayamanishg: if you could read this ml post: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/018671.html16:53
anteayaand suggest a docstring to be included in that test in the patch, that would be awesome!16:53
manishganteaya, sure will do.  I understand that our unit test coverage for neutron is less than desirable so I was planning to write more (if more info is available I will get started on those - if not, I'll figure out what's there and write accordingly).  I will read the ml post + review the patch.  thanks for the links :)16:54
anteayathank you16:54
anteayaand thanks for the offer16:54
anteayaI need to get better information so I can help you16:54
anteayaI will share when i have some16:55
anteayalet me know your progress and thoughts as you go along16:55
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anteayaw00t! just got off the phone with a contact who will draw me up a tentative budget for rooms17:17
anteayaload off my back17:17
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anteayahi gatuus18:06
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gatuushey hi!18:06
anteayayou asked a question and by the time I responded to you, you were gone18:07
anteayaI don't know the answer to your question unfortunately18:07
anteayabut I wanted to tell you about paste.openstack.org18:08
gatuusohh really!? can you please repeat18:08
anteayaif you didn't know about it18:08
gatuusok18:08
anteayajust to let you know that using paste helps someone to view all your code in one spot18:08
anteayareduces the noise of the channel18:08
anteayamaybe you could paste the output and ask again18:08
anteayaand I can help you find someone who can answer you18:09
gatuusahh ok, yes18:09
gatuushold on18:09
gatuusthanks18:09
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gatuusHere it is18:25
gatuusmy comment in "paste" format, can you please review it?18:25
gatuushttp://paste.openstack.org/show/52483/18:25
gatuusIt's about VPNaaS problem that I have18:25
gatuusthanks18:25
gatuusget_vpn_services_on_host to be exact18:28
* anteaya clicks18:30
anteayanicely done gatuus18:31
anteayalet's head over to the neutron bugs and see if someone has filed something that might be related18:31
gatuushaha thanks, and sorry for my ahh.. that18:32
anteayahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron18:32
anteayano worries, glad to talk to you about it18:32
anteaya422 bugs is a lot of bugs18:32
gatuushoa.. yes18:33
anteayahere are the bugs filtered on VPNaaS:18:33
anteayahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron?field.searchtext=VPNaaS&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_pac18:33
anteayakage=18:33
anteayaonly 318:33
anteayaany that look related gatuus?18:33
gatuusyes18:33
gatuuswell18:34
anteayawhich one?18:34
gatuusAhh, wait18:34
* anteaya waits18:35
gatuusahh sorry not a bug, just questions on https://ask.openstack.org18:36
gatuusthe same issue there with 3 persons18:36
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gatuusbut probably I could open a new one.. =S18:36
anteayahmmmm, okay18:37
anteayacan you do that please and link to the questions about it on ask.o.o?18:37
anteayadoes anyone know when neutron last had a bug day?18:37
anteayawill 422 bugs it is time to cull them18:38
gatuusok I'll do it right now18:38
anteaya*with18:38
beaglesjog0, much belated pong18:38
anteayagatuus: thanks18:38
gatuusok18:38
jog0beagles: now I forgot why I pinged you, but I think it was about neutron testing18:39
beaglesjog0, k18:39
jog0and bug fixing18:39
anteayain that case welcome beagles18:39
beagles:)18:39
jog0as in we  neutron is destabilizing gate at the moment and I thought I saw you had some interest in getting neutron less flakey18:40
beaglesdisclaimer: I'm making my way through jet lag induced insomnia so I apologize in advance18:40
beaglesjog0, yes that is correct18:40
jog0beagles: \o/18:40
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Use information from the dnsmasq hosts file to call dhcp_release  https://review.openstack.org/5626318:41
jog0anteaya is working on help originzie the neutron efforts on this so18:41
jog0anteaya: ^ I found one more  (unless you found him already)18:41
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beaglesjog0, I started in on Friday last week, but whereas I was traveling from Saturday morning till Sunday night and a holiday on Monday (which I did a fair impression of the living dead) and Tuesday is meeting day....18:42
beaglestoday is my first day back to really work on it :)18:42
beaglesanteaya and I have already been introduced18:42
jog0beagles: awesome in that case, ignore me18:43
jog0and happy hacking18:43
beaglesjog0,  my focus is actually on getting neutron to a state where nova-networking can be deprecated... it is a fairly broad-reaching goal, but the tests are and obvious immediate goal in that direction :)18:44
beaglesjog0, thanks!18:44
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jog0beagles: excellent, that is a broad-reaching goal but a very important one18:45
jog0beagles: if there is anything you need to help you with that don't hesitate to ask18:46
beaglesjog0, great! Besides the tests, I'm getting some work breakdowns and more detailed descriptions of what needs to be worked out this week18:47
beaglesjog0, a preliminary list will be available this week...18:48
beaglesactually... I'm just keeping a running list at the moment here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-neutron-nova-parity-prelim-outline18:50
beagles"thinking out loud" as it were18:50
anteayabeagles I am about to take a jet lag induced nap myself so you are in good company18:50
beaglesheh18:51
anteayanice recruiting jog0 \o/18:51
beaglesmy flight from HK to Newark got turned around over Tokyo for a mechanical problem.. so I left Hong Kong twice :)18:51
beaglesit didn't help the whole lag thing18:51
beaglesinsofar that I was more tired anyways18:51
anteayabeagles: we have been introduced before? I'm sorry I am forgetting18:52
anteayadid we meet in the neutron room?18:52
anteayamy brain is so foggy18:52
beaglesrussellb, introduced us out in the hallway18:52
anteayaoh from Halifax18:52
anteayayeah sorry18:52
beaglesSt. John's, NL .. but I'll forgive that :)18:53
anteayawasn't thinking of you as beagles18:53
anteayaouch18:53
beaglesNewfie, not Haligonian18:53
anteayaI owe you a drink for that18:53
beaglesyeah, my irc handle on my badge was b3nt_pin18:53
jog0beagles: that list looks good but missing at least one item18:53
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beaglesjog0, it's missing "n" items :)18:53
jog0the three high level goals are:18:54
beaglesjog0, but which one are you referring to?18:54
anteayabeagles: fungi might have been on your flight, no bathroom water discovered over Japan?18:54
jog0* Make sure neutron's has a default open source usable driver (something that works at even medium scale, which is not the case today)18:54
anteayayeah18:54
beaglesanteaya, yup18:54
anteayasame flight18:55
anteayawow18:55
jog0* Feature Parity with nova-network along with a migration path18:55
jog0* Pass all tempest all the time18:55
jog0none of these are there today18:55
jog0anteaya: does that sound about right to you? ^18:55
beaglesjog0: that's a good set of principals18:57
beaglesor principles18:57
beaglesugh18:57
anteayait all sounds good18:57
anteayawe need those items18:57
anteayanot sure if anything is missing18:57
anteayaor if there is a prefered order18:58
anteayabut I think we need what we have to work before we add more18:58
jog0anteaya: yes!18:58
beaglesabsolutely18:58
jog0anteaya: I think thats the first step, make sure neutron passes its existing subset of tempest all the time18:58
beaglesi feel that a small set of easy-to-remember principles is important18:58
anteayabeagles: agreed18:59
anteayajog0: oh I love having a first step18:59
jog0anteaya: although it may turn out that the first step, may be really hard and involve major redesign19:00
jog0*may*19:00
beaglesI've added a link to the pad for perusal: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E9CiG8fmcn0FMI15zpE0dRQ1CcFhXV8TxL7mU7vgWv8/edit?usp=sharing19:01
anteayagiven the depth, breadth and length of time this has been an issue19:01
anteayaif major redesign didn't constitute 1 of the first 3 steps19:01
anteayaI would say we haven't gotten to the heart of the issue19:01
beaglesit was brought up in an IRC meeting long ago but didn't get much play...19:01
anteayawe need to bring it up again then19:02
anteayaI am going to need that nap though before I can consume that google doc19:03
anteayabeagles: did you sign up for the Montreal code sprint yet?19:03
beaglesanteaya, not yet, I need to figure out logistics.19:04
anteayalet me know how I can help19:04
anteayawe need you there19:05
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beaglesack19:12
beaglesI haven't had lunch19:14
beagles3 appointments, returning kids to school, work and dog hustbandry19:14
beaglesor husbandry19:14
beaglesor whatever19:14
beaglesday19:14
beaglesshot19:14
beaglesto19:14
beagleshell19:14
anteayaha ha ha19:15
anteayamanishg: okay so to find out about neutron test coverage, from inside the neutron root directory run `tox -ecover`19:16
anteayamanishg: this was my output: http://paste.openstack.org/show/52500/19:16
anteayabut as you can see it finished without errors19:16
anteayathen open up cover/index.html in a browser19:17
anteayaand view the results19:17
manishganteaya, thanks.  will do!  will also start looking into docstrings like you mentioned.19:17
beaglesOMG that was actually supposed to go to another window...19:17
beagleslook at me, whining in public :)19:17
beaglesoh my19:18
anteayamanishg: great thanks19:19
anteayalet me know how you make out19:19
anteayabeagles: :D19:19
anteayaI love the random19:19
anteaya:wq19:19
anteayamakes my day19:19
anteayaokay nap time19:23
jroovershi anteaya, enjoy your nap19:26
jrooverslemme not when you are back :-)19:26
jroovers*know19:26
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jasonvI have a question regarding the Cisco Nexus plugins. Is anyone around that can help out?19:46
HenryGjasonv: depends on the question19:48
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jasonvOk, I'm trying to set this up, but I'm not finding much in the way of documentation, so I am taking some blind stabs in the dark19:49
jasonvI have 3 controller nodes in an HA configuration that will be running the Neutron API19:50
jasonvAnd then my compute hosts are connected using bond interfaces to two Nexus 3k switches19:50
jasonvNow in the documentation it references ncclient and a couple python libraries19:50
jasonvare these needed on the controllers or the compute nodes?19:51
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HenryGjasonv: sorry, was AFK a while20:21
HenryGjasonv: only the controller(s)20:22
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jasonvGreat20:24
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HenryGjasonv: I have no experience with using bond interface to Nexus.20:26
jasonvThat's fine, I'm pretty sure I have that down. That part of the config seems to be documented20:27
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HenryGjasonv: Good, I just looked it up and it seems straightforward20:30
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove release_lease from the DHCP driver interface  https://review.openstack.org/5628521:12
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS: Fix discrepancy between status and admin_state_up  https://review.openstack.org/5503221:18
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Move Loadbalancer Noop driver to the unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/5618721:21
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jasonvHenryG: One more questiuon if you have time. When I do the config to include the ports the devices are plugged into, do I need to include the controllers along with the compute nodes.21:31
jasonvex: [Nexus2:10.4.4.3]21:31
jasonv# Hostname and port used of the node21:31
jasonvcptfll01=portchannel:721:31
jasonvcptfll02=portchannel:921:31
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anteayajroovers: back21:45
jroovershi anteaya :-)21:46
anteayahey there21:46
jrooverssorry that I wasn't back earlier, some stuff going on21:46
anteayano worries21:46
anteayaglad you are here now21:46
mesterymarkmcclain: ping21:47
anteayajroovers: how are you doing?21:47
mesterymarkmcclain: I've been looking at bugs, and I've noticed a few cases where reviews are not updating in launchpad bugs. For example, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55221/ is not shown in the bug it's claiming to address (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1248374).21:47
jrooversdoing good, what about yourself?21:48
mesterymarkmcclain: Any idea what might be happening here? This is making it confusing while triaging bugs. :)21:48
jrooversI haven't had a whole lot of time to look more into neutron21:48
jrooversI was hoping we could continue what we had going here21:48
markmcclainmestery: looking21:49
mesterymarkmcclain: Thanks. Wondering if something isn't triggering now on the git commit message or something.21:50
mesterymarkmcclain: Another example is this one (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1184696) never had an update in launchpad when the fix was merged.21:51
markmcclainmestery: looks like the commit message is not formatted correctly21:51
mesterymarkmcclain: That's what I was suspecting, thanks for confirming. :(21:51
anteayamestery: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages#Including_external_references21:52
anteayajroovers: okay so you need to be able to run tests in the services in devstack21:53
anteayayou are running devstack in a vm, correct jroovers?21:53
anteayamarkmcclain: can I get you to email me the list of people that signed up for the code sprint in Montreal?21:53
jrooversok, so I'm currently running something else in a vm21:53
jrooversgimme couple of mins21:54
jrooversI'll ping you21:54
markmcclainanteaya: yes.. I'm working my way through my post summit action items21:54
anteayamarkmcclain: okay thanks21:55
anteayajroovers: k21:55
jrooversok anteaya, up and running21:57
mesteryThanks for the second set of eyes on my bug issues markmcclain, appreciate it.21:57
mesteryThanks for the pointer to the wiki for these items anteaya.21:57
anteayamestery: no problem, thedodd wrote those changes in accordance with an etherpad, a few months back22:01
anteayanot everyone became aware of the change22:01
anteayajroovers: okay so now I need you to learn how to run tests in the various services22:02
mesteryanteaya: I would suggest an email to openstack-dev to keep people aware. OTherwise, this could be a mess. :)22:02
anteayanavigate to /opt/stack/nova22:02
anteayaand execute `tox` please22:02
anteayathis will take a while to run22:03
anteayabut you need to know how to do it22:03
jrooversmm, command not found22:03
anteayamestery: one was sent22:03
anteayaat the time of the change22:03
anteayaI can dig it up22:03
mesteryanteaya: I for one missed this, and I think perhaps others might have too. Friendly reminders are always helpful sometimes to engineers who may be head down.22:04
anteayahttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-August/012945.html22:05
anteayathat is why I am in this channel22:05
jrooversok, sorry, fixed it with pip22:05
anteayamost folks ask in -infra where I have spent most of my time answering questions22:05
anteayaI am finding a lot of folks in this project don't ask in other channels when something is up, so I came to you22:06
anteayajroovers: okay22:06
mesteryanteaya: That's a broad assumption I would argue isn't true.22:06
anteayagreat22:06
anteayahappy to be proven wrong22:07
mesteryI don't think that's the right attitude either, but I understand where you're coming from to some extent.22:07
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anteayamestery: see http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2013-11-13.log22:08
anteayatimestamp: 2013-11-13T08:18:2422:09
anteayamestery: I am happpy to adjust my attitude when the facts warrent it22:09
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mesteryanteaya: I think it's best to agree to disagree here and move on. :)22:11
jrooversanteaya, having some issues with tox, http://paste.openstack.org/show/52561/22:11
anteayamestery: if you wish22:11
anteayamestery: and anytime you can prove me to the contrary, I welcome the proof I am wrong22:12
anteayaI am looking forward to it actually22:12
mesteryanteaya: I think you're misrepresenting my intentions here, I'm not trying to prove you wrong.22:13
anteayaI want you to22:14
anteayaI want to read the logs where folks from neutron are in infra, qa and nova asking questions22:14
anteayaabout features so they know what is happening with other projects22:14
anteayajroovers: please read: http://anteaya.info/blog/2013/09/01/installing-devstack-with-vagrant/22:15
anteayaand please install the dependencies listed22:15
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anteayasalv-orlando: was in qa today talking with sdague and jog0, that made me so happy22:16
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anteayafolks in this channel didn't even know how to add their name to an etherpad22:17
anteayaso I went over that today22:17
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove release_lease from the DHCP driver interface  https://review.openstack.org/5628522:17
anteayaand now folks who were paying attention added their name22:17
anteayahopefully anyone reading the neutron logs will have that info to22:17
anteaya*too22:18
anteayabut I will answer the question again if anyone asks22:18
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salv-orlandoanteaya, ok thanks. Do you think the infra and docs teams have already wiki pages set up to this aim? Sort of Openstack community FAQs. I think they have, even if I am not aware of those links22:20
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salv-orlandoanteaya: I was referring to the etherpad thing you mentioned - not the other thing you were discussing with mestery22:25
anteayasalv-orlando: most of that information tends to be learned from other people who know it, rather than documented22:25
anteayawe have etherpad docs but it is mostly how to install your own etherpad22:26
anteayahttp://ci.openstack.org/etherpad.html22:26
mesterysalv-orlando: I like where you line of thinking is going here.22:26
salv-orlandoanteaya: yes, that's how I learned it. I'm fine with that, but - just saying - especially new contributors are often afraid to ask this kind of questions22:26
salv-orlandonobody wants to be called a n00b22:26
anteayaI think that is kind of the point22:26
markmcclainanteaya: for onboarding/community inclusion might make sense to build a 101 list of tips and tricks22:26
salv-orlandoand I don't call people n00b ok :)22:27
anteayato create an environment that invites questions22:27
jroovers+22:27
anteayaasking people how they are doing22:27
jroovers+1 on the 101 guide22:27
salv-orlandomestery: you're such a n00b :)22:27
anteayaobserving their progress22:27
anteayaand following up22:27
* mestery chuckles to himself.22:27
anteayaI don't expect you to take it on yourself salv-orlando22:27
anteayabut to mentor others who can learn and mentor others22:28
anteayaif someone wants to write it up, great22:28
mesteryBut seriously salv-orlando, +1 on the 101 guide as jroovers indicates.22:28
salv-orlandoI don't expect either… I'm afraid22:28
anteayahopefully it can be a neutron team effort22:28
mesteryThat would be nice for n00bs :)22:28
anteayabut my focus is still going to be on getting people to ask questions22:28
anteayasure it would22:29
anteayaany volunteer to spear head the effort?22:29
mesteryIsn't most of this information not specific to neutron anteaya?22:29
anteayayes22:29
anteayait is communication skills22:29
mestery...22:29
anteayabeing curious enough about something someone else is doing to ask a question22:29
bswrchrdhey everybody, I'm sorry about asking a support question in the dev channel but I can't seem to find anyone in #openstack that has gotten the ML2 plugin to work with OVS...anyone have a sec to answer a few questions?22:31
anteayahi bswrchrd22:31
anteayawelcome22:31
mesterybswrchrd: Yes, what's going on?22:31
bswrchrdhey anteaya22:31
bswrchrdfirst one, with ML2 now I can't find any reference to whether the use of the linux bridges for iptables is depreciated...but with a default install they aren't being built..are they supposed to be there now//22:33
anteayajroovers: did installing the dependencies address the issue running tox in nova?22:33
jrooversanteaya: it looks like it22:34
jrooversthanks for that22:34
anteayajroovers: great22:34
anteayanp22:34
mesterybswrchrd: iptables should work with ML2 for security groups. What mechanism drivers do you have loaded?22:34
jrooversI actually ran into a similar issue before, when trying to run run-tests.sh22:34
anteayait will take a while, grap a coffee/tea22:34
anteayajroovers: yeah, devstack doesn't install the OS dependencies22:34
jrooversrelated to this bug, I think https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/120372322:34
jrooversI already had those deps written down, didn't think about them for a sec22:35
bswrchrdmestery: openvswitch, linuxbridge right now22:35
anteayajroovers: yeah it is22:35
mesterybswrchrd: If this is with Icehouse, what VIF driver are you using? The security groups are tied to that as well.22:35
* mestery looks around at that for a bit ...22:35
anteayajroovers: lifeless has a tool to install dependencies but mordred has been focused on getting pbr and global requirements working for all the projects22:36
bswrchrdmestery:let me fess up a little, my issue is that I can't seem to get a dhcp IP but I can see traffic leaving the compute node, hitting the physical NIC, but it never gets to the br-tun bridge22:36
anteayaand now he is working on getting us on wheel, so I can see why that bug hasn't been addressed yet22:36
jrooversanteaya: sorry, pbr?22:36
bswrchrdmestery: icehouse is next, trying to get havana configured and working first :)22:36
mordredjroovers, anteaya: pbr won't really ever be able to solve those22:37
jrooverssorry, I was just asking what pbr is22:37
* jroovers is very new here22:37
mordredjroovers: welcome!22:38
anteayajroovers: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/pbr/22:38
anteayamordred wrote pbr22:38
mordredjroovers: pbr is a library we use to manage common setuptools needs22:38
* jroovers learned something (again!)22:38
anteayamostly to allow for introspection which setuptools doesn't allow22:38
anteayajroovers: asking will do that22:38
jroovers:-)22:38
mesterybswrchrd: OK, cool. So from your description, I'm thinking the local IP stack is dropping the packets for some reason, as they should be hitting that after the physical NIC.22:38
mordredanteaya: however, pbr won't ever do anything about that bug22:38
anteayaoh I know22:39
mordredoh, wait22:39
mordredactually22:39
anteayajust saying you were focused on that22:39
mordredI'm partially wrong22:39
bswrchrdmestery:yeah, that's what I am thinking to but alas I can't figure out where or better yet, why22:39
anteayaand global requrirements22:39
* anteaya listens22:39
mordredyeah. well, you also mentioned wheel support22:39
anteayayup22:39
mordredonce that's there, in some circumstances, it will help22:39
mesterybswrchrd: What does your tunnel configuration look like on both ends? PAsting that into paste.openstack.org would be great to see.22:39
bswrchrdmestery:yep, going now22:39
anteayamordred: that would be awesome22:39
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add log statements for policy check failures  https://review.openstack.org/5445722:40
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richardboswellmestery: http://paste.openstack.org/show/52572/22:43
richardboswellmestery:sorry, I got booted, nic changed back22:43
mesteryrichardboswell: No worries. Do you have the compute side as well?22:43
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richardboswellmestery: http://paste.openstack.org/show/52573/22:44
mesteryrichardboswell: You don't have GRE traffic blocked on the compute node by chance do you? Is this Ubuntu or Red Hat based distro? Check that out.22:46
anteayajroovers: ping when you are at the next step22:46
richardboswellmestery:ubuntu, let me check22:46
* anteaya wanders off for food22:47
jrooversanteaya, I was about the say, that the process seems to be blocked at some step in the beginning22:47
jroovershttp://paste.openstack.org/show/52575/22:47
jrooversit's been stuck there for quite a whole22:47
jroovers*while22:47
richardboswellmestery: i don't think it's blocked, e.g. I can deploy cirros and run udhcpd and see the dhcp requests traverse the gre tunnels the compute node to the network node22:49
richardboswellthe data dies at the br-tun on the network node22:49
anteayajroovers: the tests are running22:50
anteayatox uses testr to run the tests22:50
anteayathere is no output while each test is running22:50
anteayayou get all the output at the end of the test run22:50
jrooverswow22:50
jrooversthat is not what I would expect22:50
anteayaI suggest you get a coffee or tea and come back in 20 minutes22:51
anteayayup22:51
anteayawhich is why I am walking you through it22:51
jrooversyeah, really appreciate that btw22:51
anteayamy pleasure22:51
anteayait is the best way I have found to onboard people22:51
anteayaelse they get lost in the docs and quit22:51
jrooversI wish I had more time to really dive into this, unfortunetaly this is really a side thing for now22:51
salv-orlandomastery, richardboswell: sorry to pop in - I'm seeing you're using patch ports (which are still our default for br-int/br-tun)22:52
anteayaI hear you22:52
anteayajroovers: this is why this is a full time gig for me22:52
salv-orlandoin recent kernel versions the OVS module dropped support for patch ports.22:52
jroovers:-)22:52
richardboswellsalv:hmmm, awesome22:52
anteaya:D22:52
mesterysalv-orlando: Wasn't that 1.11? Either way, you can force veth ports in the config though.22:53
richardboswellsalv: that was my next question, is veth the way to go then?22:53
anteayamestery: veth - virtual eth0 ports?22:53
mesteryveth are the upstream linux kernel equivalent of OVS patch ports.22:53
salv-orlandoYes veths are good, but I do not know on top of my head which config option is22:53
mesteryLooking for the config option now ...22:54
anteayamestery: thanks22:54
anteayadidn't know that22:54
salv-orlandomestery: I think it was way earlier than 1.1122:54
jrooverson a side note, is there anyone here that has some knowledge about the LBaaS implementation?22:54
anteayajroovers: I'm out on that question22:55
anteayahopefully you find someone who knows22:55
richardboswellsalv-orlando: thanks, is it ovs_use_veth?22:55
jrooversno worries, it's not urgent at all22:56
salv-orlandomestery: perhaps you meant they were restored from ovs 1.9 onwards?22:56
salv-orlandorichardboswell, nope that's for plugging network interfaces such as dhcp in switches22:56
richardboswellsalv-orlando: got it22:56
salv-orlandocan you tell us your ovs and linux kernel versions?22:56
mesterysalv-orlando: I think I had the version wrong as you said earlier. Still can't find the config option BTW ...22:57
richardboswellsalv-orlando: Linux havanan 3.5.0-42-generic #65~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 20:57:18 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux22:57
salv-orlandomestery: are we sure there is a config options for that? See this bug - still open https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/104561322:57
richardboswellsalv-orlando: ovs is 1.10.222:57
mesterysalv-orlando: W22:57
beaglesmestery: are you referring to ovs_use_veth that richardboswell indicated above?22:57
mesterysalv-orlando: We're on the same page, I think it's not there yet.22:57
salv-orlandook, than it's not the patch part isse.22:57
mesterybeagles: That's for agent ports.22:58
beaglesoof right22:58
mesterysalv-orlando: I actually looked at that bug today, wondered about it. So, there is no way to use veth ports between bridges currently.22:58
salv-orlandoother typically issues are 1) br-tun having just a rule dropping all traffic22:58
salv-orlando2) br-int putting traffic directed to the DHCP port on the 'dead vlan'22:59
richardboswellmestery: that's what I thought also but I didn't know whether you guys had developed some type of magic to compensate22:59
salv-orlandoovs-ofctl dump-flows <bridge-name> will help you debugging that22:59
richardboswellsalv-orlando: rule as in iptables?22:59
salv-orlandoovs flow action22:59
richardboswelloh ok22:59
mesterysalv-orlando: I can take that bug up if it's worthwhile, I'll ping rkukura on that.23:00
anteayabeagles what is the difference between patch ports and agent ports?23:00
mesteryFYI: I have to step out now for a while, back later.23:00
* mestery wanders off.23:00
richardboswellhold on, let me run dump-flows23:00
mesteryrichardboswell: holding for a minute. :)23:01
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anteayamestery: while you are waiting perhaps you can tell me the difference between patch ports and agent ports?23:01
beaglesanteaya, it's more of a matter of the "use". The agents use veth to link vifs in namespaces to a vif in another (think of a patch cable to link devices on different shelves)... patch ports in this context are about linking different ovs bridges23:01
anteayaoh there's beagles23:01
mesterybeagles: Good explanation. And veth ports can do the same thing, but exist outside of OVS, where patch ports only exist.23:02
richardboswellmestery:http://paste.openstack.org/show/52576/23:02
anteayaoh okay, hmmm23:02
anteayamore words to look up but this helps, thanks23:03
richardboswellbeagles: that's the best description I have seen yet...thanks for that23:03
salv-orlandorichardboswell: your flow tables are fine - the problem must lie somewhere else.23:05
salv-orlandoYou said you are positive that you've seen the DHCP req going over the wire in the GRE tunnel and pop up in br-tun23:06
salv-orlandoon the network node, but being dropped there23:06
richardboswellmestery or salv-orlando: i've seen it leave the compute node and make to the physical NIC (in this case eth0) for the network node23:07
richardboswellbut tcpdump isn't seeing the packets at br-tun23:07
salv-orlandoand you've checked as mastery said that iptables is not dropping GRE traffic?23:07
anteayajroovers: if I remember this morning's conversation sgran might know about LaaS, I think23:08
richardboswellARRRRRGGGGGGG23:08
jrooversmy question is actually about HAProxy and dynamically adding servers23:08
jrooverssince the LBaaS implementation seems to do that, I thought I might get some insight here23:09
richardboswellok, dumb question, has anything changed with ML2 with regards to how the LibvirtHybridOVSBridgeDriver is supposed to created the Linux bridges and connect to the vifs?23:09
jroovershowever, I think I've already found something23:09
jroovershttp://alex.cloudware.it/2011/10/simple-auto-scale-with-haproxy.html23:09
anteayajroovers: go you23:09
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salv-orlandoit has if you're running with devstack. For something which is probably a bug plugs now the VIF in 'ovs' mode and not 'hybrid'23:10
beaglesanteaya, mestery brings up the most significant aspect.. (i feel it is anyways).. a patch port is implemented via ovs, where a veth pair is a core linux networking entity. This is a important distinction when you want to implement things that need to be independent of the presence of OVS. Just something to think about.23:11
richardboswellsalv-orlando: yeah, not running devstack, standard Ubuntu packages...is it a diff. driver then? and how are iptables rules assigned then?23:11
anteayayes, that distinction was what I was using for my way in23:11
anteayareading up on OVS now23:11
anteayaand thanks23:11
salv-orlandorichardboswell: Not sure I am following - are you referring to security groups now, or the thing about GRE being blocked23:12
richardboswellsalv-orlando: security groups...that's another conversation...23:14
richardboswellsalv-orlando: what would block the GRE packets if the flow rules are correct?23:14
salv-orlandofor the latter I'd just check the filter table to see if all inbound traffic, and then GRE as well, is dropped23:15
salv-orlandoif you're not running via devstack you should still see instance vifs plugged with the hybrid driver (qvo/qvb interfaces)23:15
salv-orlandooh well you got taps in your paste...23:16
salv-orlandocheck firewall_driver and security_group_api in your nova.conf23:17
richardboswellsalv-orlando: got it, thx, is there a config reference now for ML2+OVS by any chance?23:19
beaglesrichardboswell, to date I've found GRE a little interesting. I didn't think there was any standard iptables rule generation for allowing the gre traffic to flow and it was sort of left to deployment to handle23:19
jrooversanteaya, tests finished :-)23:19
beaglesrichardboswell, or are you guys talking about the solution and I'm late to the party :)23:20
anteayajroovers: please paste your output23:20
richardboswellbeagles: eh still working on a solution23:21
jrooversanteaya: http://paste.openstack.org/show/52583/23:21
beaglesrichardboswell, k23:21
* anteaya clicks23:22
anteayajroovers: why did you run sudo tox?23:22
anteayaand thanks for including the command in the paste23:23
beagles(paste reminds me I need to finish setting up my local mirrors)23:23
jrooversI got some permission errors if I didn't do that23:23
anteayajroovers: can I see the paste with the errors please?23:23
salv-orlandobeagles: I think that works for enabling inbound GRE traffic -> iptables -A INPUT -p 47 -j ACCEPT23:24
anteayayou should have to run sudo for tox to execute23:24
richardboswellbeagles: ok I think I may have found the issue, my grizzly iptables is configured to allow for GRE (-A INPUT -p gre -j ACCEPT) whereas I don't have that entry in my havana23:24
anteaya*shouldn't23:24
salv-orlandoXenServer had that rule built-in since version 6.0 for instance23:24
jroovershttp://paste.openstack.org/show/52584/23:24
salv-orlandorichardboswell: That would be the issue if your default rule is to drop everything23:24
* anteaya clicks23:24
anteayajroovers: were you root when you installed devstack?23:25
richardboswellsalv-orlando: yep23:25
richardboswellsalv-orlando: duh...excuse while I sit in the corner for a few minutes and see if that fixes it...23:26
jrooversanteaya: no I was not23:26
beaglesrichardboswell, yeah23:26
jrooversanteaya: but I might have ran tox before as root when the dependency issues were occuring23:27
jrooversnot sure23:27
anteayacan you show me a paste with the permissions for /opt/stack/nova/.tox/py27/log/py27-2.log23:27
jrooversanteaya, as it is a log file, that might be the issue23:27
beaglesjroovers, tox localizes the dependencies.. so sudo *shouldn't* be necessary I think23:27
* jroovers is working on the paste23:27
anteayajroovers: lets see the permissions on that file23:27
anteayabeagles: no sudo is not required with tox23:27
anteayawhich is why I am wondering what happened23:27
* beagles nods23:28
jrooversyeah, it is root owned http://paste.openstack.org/show/52589/23:28
anteayaokay23:28
anteayaso rm -rf .tox23:28
anteayaand run tox again, no sudo23:28
anteayaping if it hangs or errors out23:29
beaglesor "sudo rm -rf .tox" if necessary ;)23:29
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anteayabeagles: good point23:29
beaglesdon't mind me... just punch drunk from sleep deprivation :)23:30
jroovershaha, I figured that part out - without having to try it first without sudo ;-)23:30
* jroovers is not a total n00b ;-)23:30
anteayabeagles: good to have your input23:33
anteayaI on the other hand am a total n00b23:33
* anteaya puts on her n00b hat23:34
jrooversanteaya is good with the n00bs :-)23:34
anteaya:)23:35
anteayasince I am one23:35
* beagles feels it is important to learn something n00b every day.23:35
* jroovers +1's that23:36
richardboswellbeagles: ugh, ok, gotta run, thanks for the help...hopefully the rule update will fix it23:37
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anteayajroovers: are the tests running?23:44
jrooversaha, they just started23:44
jrooverstook a while to install dependencies23:45
jrooverspy27 installdeps: -r/opt/stack/nova/requirements.txt, -r/opt/stack/nova/test-requirements.txt23:45
jrooversthat line took a long time to complete23:45
jrooversanteaya, already having some errors though23:46
jroovershttp://paste.openstack.org/show/52595/23:46
jrooversincluding the always fun "broken pipe"23:47
jrooversbut the tests are still running I believe23:47
jrooversmm, although..., reading through that error output. Maybe I should have removed .testrpository as well23:48
anteayaanother permissions error: Permission denied: '/opt/stack/nova/.testrepository/tmpzsAU4a'23:48
anteayayeah stop the tests23:49
anteayadon't nuke .testrepository yet23:49
anteayalet's take a peek first23:49
jroovershttp://paste.openstack.org/show/52596/23:49
jrooversok23:49
jrooversthere seem to be more files/dirs in the nova dir that are owned by root23:50
jrooversthere doesn't seem to be anything intersting in .testrepository23:52
jroovershttp://paste.openstack.org/show/52597/23:52
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anteayajroovers: interesting23:57
anteayaokay I don't have a working devstack install to check against23:57
anteayawe have two options23:57
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anteayanuke .testrepository and try running tox again, no sudo23:57
anteayabring down that vm and re-install devstack paying particular attention to when you use sudo23:58
anteayayou should only have to sudo when installing the os dependencies23:58
anteayaif I remember correctly23:58
jrooverswell, I'm pretty sure I did not use sudo when installing devstack23:58
jrooversI've burned my fingers there before23:58
anteayaokay23:58
jrooversso, lessons already learned23:58
anteayamakes those lessons hard to forget23:59
anteayalet's remove .testrepository23:59
anteayaand try tox again23:59
jrooverswell, as long as they stick right23:59
jrooversok, will do23:59
anteayaI have no idea what will happen23:59
anteayalet's find out23:59
jrooversbut I'm gonna do that tomorrow23:59
jrooversit's getting quite late here23:59
jrooversgonna catch some sleep23:59
jrooverswill do that and report back in tomorrow23:59

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