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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ofagent: Add a missing push_vlan action https://review.openstack.org/88224 | 07:30 |
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| veena | VMs are not reachable via GRE tunnel using openvswitch. Stderr: 'ovs-ofctl: -1: negative values not supported for in_port\n' | 08:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Start ping listener also for postgresql https://review.openstack.org/92792 | 08:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Ensure core plugin deallocation after every test https://review.openstack.org/92793 | 08:42 |
| kevinbenton | marun: ping | 08:42 |
| marun | pong | 08:42 |
| marun | kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92793/ | 08:42 |
| marun | this is the real fix | 08:42 |
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| marun | review welcome :) | 08:42 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I like your intent, but I think we need to focus on big problems rather than nibbling away. | 08:43 |
| marun | kevinbenton: otherwise we're adding complexity without much benefit | 08:43 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I see very little memory being consumed by the mocks that you're replacing | 08:44 |
| marun | kevinbenton: My next target is sqlalchemy - after that patch it's 40% of the remaining leakage. | 08:45 |
| marun | kevinbenton: does that make sense? | 08:46 |
| kevinbenton | marun: so I shouldn't even bother correcting them? | 08:46 |
| marun | kevinbenton: to what end? | 08:46 |
| marun | kevinbenton: do you have a measure for the impact you're addressing? | 08:46 |
| marun | kevinbenton: have you been using tracemalloc? | 08:47 |
| marun | kevinbenton: there are a crapload of things to fix in neutron, especially the tests. it's easy to work on things that don't matter if we don't measure first. | 08:47 |
| kevinbenton | marun: no, I modified mock to watch for persistence across tests | 08:48 |
| marun | kevinbenton: That is a starting point, for sure. | 08:48 |
| marun | kevinbenton: But without visibility on how much that persistence actually costs, how do you know that it's important to work on? | 08:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Test2 https://review.openstack.org/92791 | 08:49 |
| kevinbenton | marun: I already worked on it. The fixes are in there. I can strip out the forgetfulmock bit | 08:49 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I'm game if you want to focus on ensuring that tests don't share mocks. | 08:50 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: I do think that's important - too many test dependencies are due to inadvertent sharing. | 08:50 |
| kevinbenton | marun: i was looking at that plugin caching too, why was that done in the first place? Will your change come at a time cost? | 08:52 |
| marun | kevinbenton: no, there is no penalty in time | 08:52 |
| marun | kevinbenton: it takes less tiem | 08:52 |
| marun | kevinbenton: and if we do want to share, we need to use the fixtures library to do it properly | 08:53 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I think it was done out of ignorance, frankly. | 08:53 |
| kevinbenton | marun: share what? | 08:53 |
| marun | kevinbenton: share state | 08:54 |
| marun | kevinbenton: e.g. share instantiated plugins between tests | 08:54 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I don't think it was plugin 'caching' so much as carelessness. | 08:54 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: oh. I saw the code for it and assumed that someone had to have a reason to jump through those hoops. | 08:56 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: I think I had the same reaction at one point, but 3gb+ of memory usage said otherwise ;) | 08:57 |
| marun | kevinbenton: incidentally, I had to change a couple of tests in ml2 that you worked on | 08:57 |
| kevinbenton | marun: yeah, I noticed the sqlalchemy usage when I was poking around with objgraph and pdb | 08:58 |
| marun | kevinbenton: sqlalchemy is still a problem, but I think we're just doing it wrong. | 08:58 |
| marun | kevinbenton: we shouldn't be building db state and throwing it away on each test. | 08:59 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: we should be able to use fixtures and transactions instead and I think that will reduce the memory usage dramatically | 08:59 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: but why would that lead to high memory usage? | 09:02 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I don't actually know, I've been focused on the mock leakage up until now | 09:03 |
| marun | kevinbenton: but it sure as heck has a huge speed penalty | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Ensure core plugin deallocation after every test https://review.openstack.org/92793 | 09:04 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: so why did that test have to change to avoid tearDown and setup? | 09:07 |
| marun | kevinbenton: why would you want to setup/teardown unnecessarily? | 09:07 |
| marun | kevinbenton: every time it happens, all the db models have to be created and then thrown away | 09:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Yongli He proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Use six.moves cStringIO instead of cStringIO https://review.openstack.org/73937 | 09:07 |
| kevinbenton | marun: oh, I assumed something I your change broke it so it had to be fixed in this patch | 09:08 |
| marun | kevinbenton: it did break, actually | 09:08 |
| marun | kevinbenton: and the fix was making it more sane | 09:09 |
| marun | kevinbenton: by chance :) | 09:09 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: the fix is fine, I was just curious why it broke | 09:10 |
| marun | kevinbenton: feel free to apply the fix and revert :) | 09:10 |
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| marun | (revert that file I mean) | 09:10 |
| kevinbenton | marun: I'm on a tablet at the moment | 09:11 |
| marun | kevinbenton: maybe I screwed up? | 09:11 |
| marun | kevinbenton: nope, they are broken without persistent plugin instances | 09:12 |
| marun | kevinbenton: out of curiosity, why did you think that the best way to test things would be to teardown and setup again?: | 09:12 |
| kevinbenton | marun: I'm incompetent :-) | 09:13 |
| marun | kevinbenton: :p | 09:13 |
| marun | kevinbenton: nonsense. we all make mistakes - the only way to learn | 09:14 |
| kevinbenton | marun: i recall thinking it would be good to have them in the same class for nice organization | 09:14 |
| marun | kevinbenton: fair enough | 09:14 |
| marun | kevinbenton: hard to tell if something is wrong when unit tests execution time is commonly in the seconds | 09:15 |
| marun | kevinbenton: (a good unit test should be in the hundredths of a second btw) | 09:15 |
| kevinbenton | marun: I don't see why that test requires persistence in the old state, what am I missing? | 09:21 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I have to sleep | 09:21 |
| marun | kevinbenton: Feel free to investigate, but the fix is required to get the tests working properly. | 09:22 |
| marun | kevinbenton: actually, I do know why... | 09:33 |
| marun | kevinbenton: the problem is that teardown is not sufficient to wipe things clean | 09:34 |
| marun | kevinbenton: the test machinery ensures that other cleanup methods are run in addition to tearDown | 09:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Start ping listener also for postgresql https://review.openstack.org/92792 | 13:37 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: hi | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Remove explicit dependency on amqplib https://review.openstack.org/92149 | 14:03 |
| prad_ | can i get some core reviews on this please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91474/ | 14:04 |
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| HenryG | salv-orlando: hi | 14:17 |
| salv-orlando | =hi NeryG | 14:18 |
| salv-orlando | hi HenryG | 14:18 |
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| HenryG | salv-orlando: I know you won't be at the summit, but I want to try and meet up with some people there who are working on the DB migration efforts. We could try to get closer to converging on a solution. | 14:20 |
| HenryG | salv-orlando: So I was wondering if you have any updates on your thoughts for a solution? | 14:20 |
| salv-orlando | Definetely. That would be great. | 14:20 |
| salv-orlando | I think Anna shared something today. She's the one who's being most of the work so far | 14:21 |
| salv-orlando | I have not yet read her email. | 14:21 |
| HenryG | Which email is that? | 14:21 |
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| avishnoi | anybody up for query related to lbaas ? | 14:30 |
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| pcm_ | avishnoi: FYI most of the LB team is in a LBaaS IRC meeting right now, | 14:41 |
| avishnoi | pcm_: thanks!, will ping after some time then | 14:42 |
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| pcm_ | avishnoi: Try at the top of the hour (20 mins) | 14:42 |
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| avishnoi | pcm_: sure | 14:43 |
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| larsks | Has anyone seen the error "NameError: global name 'DEVICE_OWNER_ROUTER_INTF' is not defined" coming from neutron-metadata-agent? | 14:53 |
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| HenryG | salv-orlando: Just to be clear, do we still want to eventually remove auto-generation of DB? (review 40296) | 14:55 |
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| salv-orlando | HenryG: totally. | 14:56 |
| HenryG | salv-orlando: ok, good | 14:57 |
| mayu | salv-orlando: hi, Is there extra requirement for third-party ml2 driver except for tempest ? | 14:58 |
| HenryG | salv-orlando: Do you know how bad (expensive?) it is to have empty/unused tables in the DB? This could be a factor in deciding the solution, and I don't know the answer. | 14:58 |
| samuelbercovici | blogan: ping | 15:01 |
| salv-orlando | To my knowledge an empty unused table is not causing any problem. | 15:01 |
| blogan | samuelbercovici: here | 15:01 |
| samuelbercovici | is it ok here or we can move to neutron-lbaas | 15:02 |
| blogan | sure | 15:02 |
| rm_work | is there a #neutron-lbaas ? | 15:02 |
| mayu | anteaya: ping | 15:03 |
| mayu | anteaya: Is there extra requirement for third-party ml2 driver except for tempest ? | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | hello | 15:03 |
| mayu | anteaya: it's a long time since last meet | 15:04 |
| enikanorov | avishnoi: what's up? | 15:04 |
| avishnoi | enikanorov: Hii | 15:04 |
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| enikanorov | avishnoi: do you have questions about lbaas? | 15:05 |
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| avishnoi | enikanorov: have one query about lbaas | 15:05 |
| enikanorov | select * from pools ? | 15:05 |
| avishnoi | so i am developing lbaas plugin driver for sdn controller | 15:05 |
| enikanorov | cool | 15:05 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ping | 15:05 |
| mayu | anteaya: cool | 15:05 |
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| salv-orlando | hi kevinbenton | 15:05 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: you marked this bug as ‘fix committed’ https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1314850 | 15:06 |
| avishnoi | current design is kind of async design, where we create resources (like pool etc) and if that fails we later update the status right ? | 15:06 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: patch is still in review! | 15:06 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: too optimistic | 15:06 |
| anteaya | mayu: yes it has been a while | 15:06 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91497/ | 15:06 |
| anteaya | mayu: have you read this file? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/doc/source/third_party.rst | 15:06 |
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| salv-orlando | I made a mix up with the other patch in the bug report. Thanks for telling me. | 15:07 |
| anteaya | mayu: and I have a change up that we will be discussing at summit before it is included: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77376/1 | 15:07 |
| mayu | anteaya: how to make a seesion persistent to a specific site ? | 15:07 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i wouldn’t be apposed to you reviewing that patch so it could get committed… :-) | 15:08 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: 2-line change | 15:09 |
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| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: doing that now | 15:09 |
| anteaya | mayu: http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html | 15:09 |
| anteaya | mayu: what do you mean? | 15:09 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: thanks | 15:12 |
| mayu | anteaya: my ci is almost ready, I don't know whether extra requirements had been added since I have been here for a long time | 15:13 |
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| mayu | anteaya: I have not been here for a long time | 15:13 |
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| mayu | anteaya: I agree with you that third-party ci should using utc time for real status | 15:14 |
| anteaya | mayu: the requirements were added the 16th of January: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/log/doc/source/third_party.rst | 15:14 |
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| anteaya | mayu: thanks, but it isn't a requirement yet | 15:15 |
| anteaya | but I thought I would let you know that the change is in review | 15:15 |
| anteaya | mayu: I'm guessing you won't be at summit? | 15:15 |
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| mayu | anteaya: yes | 15:16 |
| anteaya | that is a shame | 15:16 |
| anteaya | I'm looking forward to meeting you | 15:16 |
| mayu | anteaya: welcome to china | 15:17 |
| anteaya | :D | 15:18 |
| anteaya | haven't been out of kowloon yet | 15:18 |
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| mayu | anteaya: you mean that you stay in hongkong ? | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | mayu: yes, for the icehouse summit | 15:25 |
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| anteaya | and I have been to hkg airport several times since | 15:25 |
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| anteaya | it is becoming one of my favourite airports | 15:25 |
| mayu | anteaya: too many people | 15:26 |
| mayu | anteaya: actually I have never been there hk. | 15:27 |
| anteaya | thre are a lot of people that is true | 15:28 |
| anteaya | I don't expect every person in china to have been to hk | 15:28 |
| anteaya | :D | 15:28 |
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| mayu | anteaya: it is late, see you | 15:30 |
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| anteaya | mayu: see you | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | mayu: nice to chat | 15:32 |
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| HenryG | markmcclain: hi | 15:45 |
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| marun | armax: ping | 16:04 |
| marun | armax: I've left a comment on the review. Feel free to ping me if you'd like to discuss. | 16:10 |
| marun | kevinbenton: ping | 16:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Remove httplib2 from requirements https://review.openstack.org/92870 | 16:19 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: pong | 16:25 |
| marun | kevinbenton: Hi Kevin | 16:25 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I'd like to apologize for being grumpy last night. | 16:26 |
| kevinbenton | marun: what’s up? | 16:26 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I was wondering if you're interested in using tracemalloc to doublecheck my assumptions about memory usage. | 16:26 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: no need to apologize, you were right about it not being that important | 16:27 |
| kevinbenton | marun: I won’t be able to over the next couple of days (getting ready for the summit) | 16:28 |
| kevinbenton | marun: but after that, yes | 16:28 |
| marun | kevinbenton: ok, fair enough. | 16:28 |
| marun | kevinbenton: whenever you'd like. It took me a little while to get my head around it, but I'm pretty slow. | 16:28 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: i just got up, i will try your patch shortly and give feedback | 16:28 |
| marun | kevinbenton: appreciated! | 16:29 |
| kevinbenton | marun: last time i tried tracemalloc, i was having issues getting it installed on my dev machine | 16:29 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: ubuntu or fedora? | 16:29 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: ubuntu | 16:29 |
| kevinbenton | marun: 12.04 | 16:29 |
| marun | kevinbenton: were you using the ppa or attempting to install from source? | 16:29 |
| marun | kevinbenton: ubuntu's packaged python deviates enough from source python that the ppa is the way to go. Fedora is saner. | 16:31 |
| marun | that -> so that | 16:31 |
| kevinbenton | marun: i think it was ppa and i ran into an error | 16:31 |
| kevinbenton | marun: let me look | 16:31 |
| marun | kevinbenton: no rush, don't mean to distract. | 16:32 |
| marun | kevinbenton: btw, I found docker really helpful in getting a working system. | 16:32 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: i think it was this one https://launchpad.net/~ionel-mc/+archive/pytracemalloc-1.0 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed a change to openstack/neutron: [2/3] Clean up Neutron resources upon tenant deletion https://review.openstack.org/92600 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed a change to openstack/neutron: [1/3] Clean up Neutron resources upon tenant deletion https://review.openstack.org/92599 | 16:32 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I think that's the one in the docs. | 16:33 |
| marun | kevinbenton: well, no need to debug now but happy to help post-summit. | 16:33 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: probably conflicting with the other stuff i’ve done to this development machine over the last few months :-) | 16:33 |
| marun | kevinbenton: yeah, docker makes that easier :) | 16:34 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: i do need to switch to docker | 16:34 |
| kevinbenton | marun: it’s in a vm now, but that doesn’t really help when i have so many useful things built up on it that i can’t replace it easily | 16:34 |
| marun | kevinbenton: yeah, that's a tricky thing. | 16:34 |
| marun | kevinbenton: transitioning to docker wasn't too hard for me since I've been using puppet+vagrant for a while now to manage disposable vm's | 16:35 |
| marun | kevinbenton: i was flushing vm's with enough regularity that I got in the habit of capturing persistent changes in git or puppet scripts to survive rebuilds | 16:35 |
| marun | kevinbenton: docker just makes the rebuilds cheaper (and execution much faster) | 16:36 |
| kevinbenton | marun: does it work with OSX as the parent? | 16:36 |
| marun | kevinbenton: there's something called boot2docker that uses a minimal docker-only vm | 16:36 |
| marun | kevinbenton: there's still a speed penalty but it's as good as you can get on os x | 16:37 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I have a beefy server to run docker for now, but honestly I want to move it into the cloud before too long. | 16:37 |
| marun | kevinbenton: now that everyone's going aws the speed penalty of virtualization io might actually be bearable there | 16:37 |
| marun | aws -> ssd | 16:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed a change to openstack/neutron: [2/3] Clean up Neutron resources upon tenant deletion https://review.openstack.org/92600 | 16:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed a change to openstack/neutron: [1/3] Clean up Neutron resources upon tenant deletion https://review.openstack.org/92599 | 16:38 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: doesn’t it get kinda pricey to run a decent instance in AWS all of the time? | 16:39 |
| marun | kevinbenton: i don't work all the time, so don't need to run it all the time :) | 16:39 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: that’s what i do when i need to run a full set of tests in a hurry | 16:40 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I'm not saying we're there yet - a home hex core server is definitely faster and cheaper for now. | 16:41 |
| marun | kevinbenton: but I don't think we're that far off. | 16:41 |
| kevinbenton | marun: i start up the biggest instance possible | 16:41 |
| marun | kevinbenton: tests for neutron? | 16:41 |
| kevinbenton | marun: and it can chew threw the neutron unit tests in a few minutes | 16:42 |
| kevinbenton | marun: yeah | 16:42 |
| marun | kevinbenton: a few minutes? wow | 16:42 |
| marun | kevinbenton: it still takes ~11m on my local server | 16:42 |
| kevinbenton | marun: 32 vcpus and 60GB ram :-) | 16:42 |
| marun | what's the hourly cost? | 16:43 |
| kevinbenton | marun: $1.68. don’t want to forget to stop that one :-) | 16:43 |
| marun | hah | 16:43 |
| marun | kevinbenton: if only they'd start billing by partial hours... | 16:43 |
| kevinbenton | marun: largest compute instance | 16:43 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: yeah | 16:44 |
| kevinbenton | marun: just break your work into nice hour-sized chunks ;-) | 16:45 |
| marun | kevinbenton: hah | 16:45 |
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| armax | marun: here | 16:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Erik Colnick proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support 'infinite' dhcp_lease_duration https://review.openstack.org/92453 | 16:49 |
| marun | armax: does the comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92793/ make sense? | 16:51 |
| armax | hang on replying... | 16:51 |
| armax | wouldn't we need to pass self.safe_reference instead? | 16:52 |
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| armax | marun: I think I found a few other | 16:52 |
| armax | s | 16:52 |
| marun | armax: So cases where the plugin reference is being passed around, potentially creating circular references? | 16:53 |
| marun | armax: it doesn't appear to be causing problems, but I'm guessing those references don't | 16:54 |
| marun | involve mocking. | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Fix H302 violations https://review.openstack.org/88578 | 16:54 |
| armax | marun: that's what I figured | 16:54 |
| armax | but I wonder if it'd be good to sweep them regardles | 16:55 |
| armax | s | 16:55 |
| marun | armax: I think it would be good, yes. Maybe as a follow-up? | 16:55 |
| armax | marun: sounds good | 16:55 |
| armax | marun: I'll take care of those | 16:55 |
| marun | armax: do you want to submit it? | 16:55 |
| marun | armax: great. :) | 16:55 |
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| marun | armax: and if you want to +2 my patch to speed yours along, so much the better ;) | 16:56 |
| BillTheKat | I am trying to get IPV6 working in havana and I am starting with modifiing dhcp.py. I notice that whenever a network contains a subnet with ip_version = 6, the spawn_process in dhcp.py does not get called for that network. Can anyone explain why? | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: lbaas on a network without gateway https://review.openstack.org/84058 | 16:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Reference new get_engine() method from wsgi.py https://review.openstack.org/91497 | 17:29 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: ping | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Remove duplicate module-rgx line in .pylintrc https://review.openstack.org/92224 | 17:39 |
| marun | kevinbenton: pong | 17:42 |
| kevinbenton | marun: found why that UT quit working | 17:43 |
| kevinbenton | marun: left a comment on the review | 17:43 |
| marun | kevinbenton: looking... | 17:43 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: uh | 17:44 |
| marun | kevinbenton: can you explain why it's necessary to add a cleanup when it's already done for every test? | 17:44 |
| marun | kevinbenton: cleanups are only ever run on unittest teardown, so adding an explicit call would just duplicate what is already being done. | 17:45 |
| kevinbenton | marun: calling self.tearDown() from that test didn’t seem to be invoking it | 17:46 |
| marun | kevinbenton: of course it wasn't invoking it | 17:46 |
| kevinbenton | marun: why? | 17:46 |
| marun | kevinbenton: functions registered by addCleanup are called after teardown by the test infrastructure | 17:47 |
| marun | kevinbenton: they are never invoked simply because tearDown is called | 17:47 |
| marun | kevinbenton: (another reason explicitly invoking tearDown to try to mimic test tearDown isn't particularly useful) | 17:47 |
| kevinbenton | marun: i see | 17:47 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: https://github.com/testing-cabal/testtools/blob/master/testtools/testcase.py#L276 | 17:48 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: so where are those _cleanups called? | 17:53 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: https://github.com/testing-cabal/testtools/blob/master/testtools/runtest.py#L113 | 17:55 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: so, setUp, test method, teardown, then cleanups | 17:55 |
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| marun | _run_setup, _run_test_method, _run_teardown, _run_cleanups | 17:57 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I'm sure there are better docs, I'm just used to looking at the source | 17:57 |
| kevinbenton | marun: i see. i didn’t even notice we were using unittest | 17:57 |
| kevinbenton | marun: the similar api fooled me | 17:57 |
| kevinbenton | marun: https://docs.python.org/2/library/unittest.html#unittest.TestCase.doCleanups | 17:57 |
| kevinbenton | marun: weren’t* | 17:57 |
| kevinbenton | marun: didn’t notice we weren’t* using unittest | 17:58 |
| marun | kevinbenton: the behavior is largely the same though the test methods may differ | 17:58 |
| marun | kevinbenton: the cleanup behavior doesn't differ | 17:59 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: well that is an important difference | 17:59 |
| marun | kevinbenton: the testtools docs aren't bad actually | 17:59 |
| kevinbenton | marun: “This method is called unconditionally after tearDown(),” | 17:59 |
| marun | http://testtools.readthedocs.org/en/latest/for-test-authors.html | 17:59 |
| marun | kevinbenton: what is an important difference? | 17:59 |
| kevinbenton | marun: invoking tearDown() with unit test calls the cleanups | 18:00 |
| marun | kevinbenton: why do you think they differ in that regard? | 18:00 |
| marun | kevinbenton: does 'called unconditionally' imply that calling tearDown calls the cleanups? | 18:00 |
| kevinbenton | marun: doesn’t it? | 18:01 |
| marun | kevinbenton: to me that reads 'called unconditionally by unittest after unittest calls tearDown' | 18:01 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: | 18:04 |
| kevinbenton | http://paste.openstack.org/show/79630/ | 18:05 |
| kevinbenton | marun: here is the output http://paste.openstack.org/show/79632/ | 18:06 |
| marun | kevinbenton: huh | 18:07 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: good to know | 18:08 |
| kevinbenton | marun: so i suppose we just can’t support that workflow really at all using testtools | 18:09 |
| kevinbenton | marun: which is okay becuase it’s kind of hacky | 18:09 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: yeah, if I was the reviewer on that patch, where setup and teardown were called in a method, I would not have approved. | 18:11 |
| kevinbenton | marun: and it looks like my garbagey unit tests were the only place where self.tearDown() is called | 18:11 |
| kevinbenton | marun: so all is well | 18:11 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: but I can see why you thought it was safe. as you've pointed out, unittest and testtools differ fundamentally on this issue | 18:12 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: all being a relative term ;) | 18:13 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: or well, for that matter | 18:13 |
| kevinbenton | marun: so back to your patch… is it safe to assume the previous test will have correctly cleaned up the core plugin? | 18:13 |
| kevinbenton | marun: what if someone overrides setup and doesn’t call super? | 18:13 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: so their plugin isn’t cleaned up at teardown | 18:13 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Drop service* tables only if they exist https://review.openstack.org/69433 | 18:14 |
| marun | kevinbenton: if the plugin isn't cleared, the test will fail. | 18:14 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: | 18:14 |
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| marun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92793/2/neutron/tests/base.py | 18:14 |
| kevinbenton | marun: i’m looking at it | 18:15 |
| marun | see line 78 | 18:15 |
| kevinbenton | marun: thinking if someone overrides setup | 18:15 |
| kevinbenton | marun: doesn’t call the super function | 18:15 |
| kevinbenton | marun: cleanup_core_plugin won’t be added | 18:15 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: or would the unit test not even work since it didn’t call setup up to the base? | 18:16 |
| marun | kevinbenton: but really, line 73 should do it. | 18:17 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: line 73 ensures that the manager's reference to the plugin is nullified, as the old setup used to do. | 18:17 |
| marun | kevinbenton: line 78 is the check for whether the plugin was gc'd | 18:17 |
| marun | kevinbenton: if they don't call base setup an error will be raised | 18:17 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: ok, so the test would have to be pretty strange to avoid calling cleanup_core_plugin | 18:19 |
| marun | kevinbenton: it would have to try really hard. | 18:19 |
| marun | kevinbenton: and core reviewers should hopefully be able to catch that. | 18:19 |
| kevinbenton | marun: well you did remove the underscore implying that cleanup_core_plugin is free game for overriding ;-) | 18:19 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: ping | 18:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: pong | 18:23 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I don't think underscore vs non-underscore make a difference in python | 18:23 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: that string you are asking for is already dumped because it’s the exception | 18:23 |
| marun | kevinbenton: at least where external clients are not involved, as in testing. | 18:24 |
| kevinbenton | marun: it’s a social contract | 18:24 |
| kevinbenton | marun: otherwise meaningless :-) | 18:24 |
| marun | kevinbenton: single underscore implies that subclasses can override | 18:24 |
| marun | kevinbenton: no underscore implies a public contract | 18:24 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Right, because you reraise the exception. Okay. | 18:24 |
| marun | kevinbenton: since when does it make sense to have a public contract for a test case/ | 18:24 |
| marun | ? | 18:24 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: i misunderstood the underscore then | 18:25 |
| kevinbenton | marun: i thought it implied you shouldn’t override it because the signature could change later | 18:25 |
| marun | kevinbenton: there is no restriction in python on overriding | 18:26 |
| marun | kevinbenton: at least not from what i understand | 18:26 |
| marun | kevinbenton: but maybe I'm just calcified the wrong way :/ | 18:26 |
| marun | kevinbenton: feel free to comment on the review and I'll fix. | 18:26 |
| kevinbenton | marun: i know that. but i thought the underscores were just used as cues that you are embarking on a dangerous journey | 18:26 |
| marun | kevinbenton: what you say makes sense in general. I'm not sure how important it is to follow in test cases given that reuse is not a focus, but as you say it probably makes sense to be consistent. | 18:27 |
| kevinbenton | marun: PEP8 - _single_leading_underscore: weak "internal use" indicator. E.g. from M import * does not import objects whose name starts with an underscore. | 18:28 |
| kevinbenton | marun: doesn’t say anything about subclassing | 18:28 |
| kevinbenton | marun: so i misunderstood it | 18:28 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: how do i do a fixed width column? | 18:28 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: I think something like %07d would work. I won’t hold you to that thought. Just a thought. | 18:29 |
| kevinbenton | marun: if you wanted to deter subclasses from override, i suppose you would do the double-underscore for name mangling | 18:29 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: make that %7d so that it doesn’t include leading zeroes. | 18:30 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: so that means take up 7 spaces, right? | 18:30 |
| carl_baldwin | And I just pulled 7 out of thin air. | 18:30 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: right. | 18:31 |
| carl_baldwin | It will be right-justified as well. | 18:31 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ping | 18:34 |
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| salv-orlando | hi kevinbenton | 18:43 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i was thinking about the truncated iptables-output. is there a case where the failing line number could be because of a previous line | 18:44 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: like a chain that was incorrectly defined or something? | 18:44 |
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| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: idk about any of this cases, but there are people who get to such a level a complexity tha thousand of rules go into the chain. anyway I think printing line numbers at least might be useful. | 18:45 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: well i already have the truncating logic in there. might as well start with that | 18:45 |
| salv-orlando | k | 18:46 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: just wanted to see if you knew of any cases off the top of your head that would suck there | 18:46 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: do you know of any? ^^ | 18:46 |
| salv-orlando | idk… maybe a -j to a non-existing chain… but you might then argue that the issue is not the rule, but the non-existing chain. Still, there would be nothing to gain there by printing everything | 18:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Log iptables rules when they fail to apply https://review.openstack.org/86810 | 18:48 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando, carl_baldwin: ok. latest is there ^^ | 18:48 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: running out to lunch. I will have a look later. | 18:49 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: no hurry | 18:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: blueprint tls-verify replaces httplib2 with requests https://review.openstack.org/92892 | 18:52 |
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| haleyb | kevinbenton: re iptables, if you have a rule like "-A foo -j bar" that causes a failure, it could be because either of those chains don't exist. If you only print what's around the failure you might not see the chain part | 19:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Make neutronclient parse keystone v3 endpoints correctly https://review.openstack.org/81767 | 19:17 |
| anteaya | marun: is this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88289/ related to the patch you were discussing earlier? | 19:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Make neutronclient parse keystone v3 endpoints correctly https://review.openstack.org/81767 | 19:18 |
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| marun | anteaya: that's separate - the full tempest run | 19:19 |
| anteaya | okay, just wondering since that patch seems to have stalled | 19:20 |
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| kevinbenton | haleyb: yeah, that’s what I was thinking. but i suppose for now we can just print what’s around it to see what type of failures we are getting | 19:47 |
| kevinbenton | haleyb: completely missing chains are so bad that I would hope that scenario would be caught in unit tests before it made it to deployments :-) | 19:48 |
| haleyb | kevinbenton: you would think, yes. Sorry, I did just -1 because of the scope thing, more to get some feedback on your thoughts there | 19:49 |
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| kevinbenton | haleyb: no prob. we’ll see what other feedback comes along | 19:56 |
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| salv-orlando | vpn team… this is for you: http://paste.openstack.org/show/79643/ | 20:00 |
| salv-orlando | a long list of bugs to triage | 20:00 |
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| enikanorov | salv-orlando: i wonder if I am the chosen one by paste.openstack.org to show me 503... | 20:06 |
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| salv-orlando | I'm getting errors as well | 20:06 |
| salv-orlando | I had to try twice before creating the paste | 20:06 |
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| salv-orlando | random question: do we have a RPC versioning protocol for removing methods | 20:30 |
| salv-orlando | this is re bug: 1314534 | 20:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Ensure changed_device_id is initialized in update_port https://review.openstack.org/92909 | 20:34 |
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| kfox1111 | running into a strange problem. I have to restart the l3-agent before floating-ip changes take affect. Know what might cause this? | 21:43 |
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