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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/91560 | 01:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: NSX: ensure that no LSN is created on external networks https://review.openstack.org/92468 | 02:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/91560 | 02:24 |
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| hrzbrg | morning, I've created a three node setup with icehouse and vxlans (inspired by http://wiki.stackinsider.org/index.php/Native_Stack_-_Dual_Node_using_Neutron_VXLAN_-_Icehouse) now when I do neutron net-create it says "No tenant network is available for allocation" | 06:51 |
| hrzbrg | can someone explain this any further? it is quite generic to me | 06:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/92987 | 06:54 |
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| mwillms | hi - I am new to openstack but I am curious | 09:11 |
| mwillms | hello - anybody there to chat ? | 09:13 |
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| jlo28k | Hey guys I am having issues with RPC timeouts for router sync in L3 Agent anyone seen something like this ? | 11:04 |
| jlo28k | ip netns comes back empty, neutron-server sees everything good. | 11:04 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: ping | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Baodong (Robert) Li proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add IPv6 prefix delegation support in Neutron https://review.openstack.org/93054 | 15:09 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ping | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | hi kevinbenton | 21:33 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: the patch I am back-porting is the fixed version of the one that was reverted | 21:34 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: had the same title, maybe should have done a different one | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | ok | 21:34 |
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| salv-orlando | where it is? I can't find it anymore | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93118/ | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | ok, +1'ed | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | sorry can't approve | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | as I'm mentally unstable they did not want me in the stable team | 21:37 |
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| kevinbenton | that’s okay :-) | 21:37 |
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| marun | mestery: hi | 21:40 |
| marun | mestery: the monitor should always indicate that polling is required when the monitor is restarted | 21:41 |
| marun | mestery: it's possible that something in the agent is ignoring that advice, though. | 21:41 |
| mestery | marun: It in fact is doign that, yes. | 21:41 |
| mestery | marun: But what I see is that it detects the same ports, and thus never runs through eventually populating flows for the patch ports between br-int and the physical bridges. | 21:41 |
| marun | mestery: hmmm, so the monitor needs to be able to communicate to the agent that the local cache is invalid | 21:43 |
| mestery | marun: Yes, I'm looking at that now. | 21:43 |
| marun | mestery: wait, so the ports are retained but the flows are lost? | 21:44 |
| marun | mestery: is that an intentional 'feature' of ovs? | 21:44 |
| mestery | marun: That's a good question. | 21:45 |
| marun | mestery: or are we using temporary flows for some reason? | 21:45 |
| mestery | marun: Temporary flows? | 21:46 |
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| marun | mestery: is there an option to create flows that are persisted vs not, and are we accidentally using 'not' | 21:47 |
| * mestery heads over to #openvswitch to ask the expert on this. | 21:47 | |
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| mestery | marun: After discussion with blp on #openvswitch, it appears there is an option to have OVS save the flow table before a restart and reload it after a restart. | 21:52 |
| mestery | marun: I'm thinking that's the real ticket here, although we'll still hit this Neutron bug if OVS crashes and is restarted by a monitor process itself. | 21:52 |
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| marun | mestery: So the option doesn't ensure saving in the event of a crash? | 21:53 |
| marun | mestery: that suggests that an agent-level fix is required. | 21:54 |
| mestery | marun: Agreed. | 21:54 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: ping | 22:10 |
| salv-orlando | hi carl_baldwin | 22:11 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m reading again through your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90250 | 22:11 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: Not the inline comments but the overall comment about selecting an external gateway for a router. | 22:11 |
| carl_baldwin | Are you just talking about what subnet to pick the router’s IP from? | 22:12 |
| salv-orlando | basically ues | 22:12 |
| salv-orlando | ues/yes | 22:12 |
| salv-orlando | but then the other comment is about routing across these subnets | 22:12 |
| salv-orlando | because so far we have a single pool and we assume all IPs are reachable (e.g.: ping 172.24.4.228 from 172.24.4.225) | 22:13 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m not understanding the last comment yet. | 22:13 |
| salv-orlando | but if there are more pools perhaps you need routes for that… I don't know, I'm just speculating at the moment | 22:13 |
| salv-orlando | assume you have two ext subnets | 22:13 |
| carl_baldwin | Ah, I see. | 22:13 |
| salv-orlando | 192.168.1.0/24 and 172.24.4.1/24 | 22:14 |
| carl_baldwin | The purpose of the patch is to add the routes for the other subnets. | 22:14 |
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| salv-orlando | right so if one router gets 192.168.1.21 and another 172.24.4.24 it would be possible to ping each other | 22:14 |
| carl_baldwin | So that all IPs are reachable from all routers regardless of which subnet the router’s IP is allocated from. | 22:14 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: Yes, this patch makes it possible to ping each other directly. | 22:15 |
| salv-orlando | ok so that's one doubt sorted. | 22:15 |
| salv-orlando | I'm off to bed in a bit, the other comments are pretty much trivial | 22:15 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll try to clarify this point and I’ll resubmit another patch for you to look at later. | 22:16 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: thanks and good night. | 22:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make plugin deallocation check optional https://review.openstack.org/93140 | 22:30 |
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| marun | mestery, salv-orlando: please merge this asap ^ | 22:30 |
| marun | my memory leak fix increased unit test execution time by 50%, and the patch in question resolves that (albeit by avoiding a check for regressions by default) | 22:31 |
| salv-orlando | I saw that gc.collect and thought… | 22:31 |
| salv-orlando | "let's not -1 on this one, I'm sure it won't make any harm" | 22:32 |
| salv-orlando | bit my tongue | 22:32 |
| salv-orlando | I'll just wait for jenking to +1 | 22:32 |
| marun | salv-orlando: another lesson in why you should always -1 :p | 22:32 |
| salv-orlando | yeah | 22:32 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I wasn't paying attention to execution time. | 22:32 |
| marun | salv-orlando: top o' the hat to HenryG for pointing out the issue. | 22:33 |
| marun | top -> tip | 22:33 |
| salv-orlando | but can we do the gc.collect in teardownclass? | 22:33 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: teardownclass is bad | 22:34 |
| salv-orlando | ok never mind then, I saw tempest uses it a lot | 22:34 |
| marun | salv-orlando: doesn't play nice with testr and friends | 22:34 |
| marun | salv-orlando: (or so I hear0 | 22:34 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: given that tempest continues to use it, though, maybe i'm outdated | 22:35 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: so sorry to hear you won't be making it to summit | 22:37 |
| marun | salv-orlando: sessions won't be the same without your ascorbic wit! | 22:37 |
| salv-orlando | marun: on the other hand, probably they will be productive this time | 22:37 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: always with the self-deprecation. they will most certainly be less productive in your absence. | 22:38 |
| marun | somebody has to ask the hard questions and I for one have a hard time taking a humorous slant when things bug me. | 22:39 |
| salv-orlando | marun: anyway… back to gc.collect. What happens if we just don't call it? Are the weakrefs eventually freed anyway? | 22:40 |
| marun | salv-orlando: the only reason to gc.collect is to be able to verify that the plugin can be deallocated | 22:41 |
| salv-orlando | marun: gotcha | 22:42 |
| marun | salv-orlando: the garbage collector will run periodically and accomplish the same thing | 22:42 |
| salv-orlando | marun: I knew that… I was just playing dumb ;) | 22:42 |
| marun | salv-orlando: is a good tactic. better than being dumb ;) | 22:42 |
| salv-orlando | marun: what about a ad-hoc deallocation test? so that we can run gc.collect only once for plugin | 22:43 |
| salv-orlando | I mean a single unit test whose only purpose is to verify the plugin gets deallocated | 22:43 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I'm going to work on minimizing model creation/descruction for my next trick | 22:44 |
| salv-orlando | that would be a meta unit-test | 22:44 |
| marun | salv-orlando: since it will essentially be per-plugin, whatever mechanism i end up using (probably fixtures) will be a good place for the deallocation check | 22:44 |
| marun | model => table | 22:44 |
| salv-orlando | marun: agreed | 22:44 |
| marun | salv-orlando: how does that fit in with your work to remove implicit table creation? | 22:45 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I'm sorry to have to admit that I haven't been following the patch. | 22:45 |
| salv-orlando | the works now has been offloaded to HenryG, but basically that patch just moves schema generation into configure_db | 22:45 |
| salv-orlando | so I guess it would fit nicelu | 22:46 |
| salv-orlando | nicely | 22:46 |
| marun | salv-orlando: so not called by __init__ anymore? | 22:46 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/91560 | 22:46 |
| salv-orlando | marun: since the plugin is not autogenerating models anymore, we need the unit tests to do that | 22:46 |
| marun | salv-orlando: ah, gotcha. i'm make sure to coordinate with HenryG on that. | 22:46 |
| salv-orlando | so the same code piece where you'll move model creation will do that | 22:47 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: ok, cool. | 22:48 |
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| vthapar | Anyone can help with some questions about Neutron Active/Active HA? | 23:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | vthapar: What questions do you have? | 23:33 |
| vthapar | HA Proxy takes care of load blancing on northbound side, but what about RPC calls made over RabbitMQ? | 23:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Amir Sadoughi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Open vSwitch-based Security Groups: OVS FirewallDriver https://review.openstack.org/89712 | 23:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Amir Sadoughi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Open vSwitch-based Security Groups: OVS FirewallDriver https://review.openstack.org/89712 | 23:35 |
| carl_baldwin | vthapar: They both make connections to rabbit. Only one should consume any given RPC message. Have you experimented with it? | 23:36 |
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| vthapar | just started out, wanted to know how RPC messages are taken care of. Is there a scheduler that takes care of it? | 23:41 |
| vthapar | ensuring only one node consumes RPCs? | 23:41 |
| carl_baldwin | If I’m not mistaken, rabbit only delivers the message to one consumer. | 23:46 |
| carl_baldwin | I might be wrong. I’m checking on that. | 23:48 |
| carl_baldwin | vthapar: Okay, I’m sticking with my original story. | 23:50 |
| carl_baldwin | Rabbit should take care of getting the RPC call to only one consumer in an active/active HA setup. | 23:51 |
| vthapar | how does rabbit do that? any specific configuration needed for that? | 23:51 |
| vthapar | I was under the impression that all consumers get msgs that come on a queue. | 23:51 |
| carl_baldwin | vthapar: It has been a while but I don’t think any extra config was needed. | 23:53 |
| vthapar | okay, this brings me to my next question... | 23:55 |
| vthapar | carl_baldwin: won't this lead to a situation where the two needs have different runtime information and when one goes down, other may not be able to fully take over? | 23:56 |
| vthapar | carl_baldwin: or in other words, it is no longer stateless but stateful? | 23:56 |
| vthapar | carl_baldwin: ^meant nodes, not needs. | 23:57 |
| carl_baldwin | vthapar: They both use the same db instance on the backend. So, this shouldn’t be a problem. Transactions in the db will take care of coordination between the two. | 23:57 |
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