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openstackgerrit | guang-yee proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Add keystone v3 auth support https://review.openstack.org/92390 | 00:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Big Switch: Lock consistency table for REST calls https://review.openstack.org/98949 | 00:12 |
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lyxus | What is the proper way to add code in the .rst of a spec ? | 00:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Tomoe Sugihara proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support Quata extention in MidoNet plugin https://review.openstack.org/101062 | 00:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Bob Melander proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Adds router service plugin for CSR1kv https://review.openstack.org/101002 | 00:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Karthik proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Design Spec For Brocade Vyatta L3 Plugin https://review.openstack.org/101052 | 01:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Franck Yelles proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Support of host-routes and dns_nameservers via DHCP options for the Nuage Plugin https://review.openstack.org/101070 | 01:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Karthik proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Design Spec For Brocade Vyatta L3 Plugin https://review.openstack.org/101052 | 01:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Pass 'top' to remove_rule so that rule matching succeeds https://review.openstack.org/101039 | 01:48 |
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openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Using ipset for security group https://review.openstack.org/100761 | 01:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Tomoe Sugihara proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support Quota extention in MidoNet plugin https://review.openstack.org/101062 | 02:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Abhishek Raut proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Control active number of REST calls from Cisco N1kv plugin to VSM https://review.openstack.org/100388 | 02:33 |
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openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ValueError should use '%' instead of ',' https://review.openstack.org/100431 | 02:50 |
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openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ValueError should use '%' instead of ',' https://review.openstack.org/100431 | 02:56 |
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markmcclain | rossella_s: sorry was in meeting when you pinged earlier | 02:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS new object model no-op driver https://review.openstack.org/101084 | 03:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS new object model no-op driver https://review.openstack.org/101084 | 03:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS new object model no-op driver https://review.openstack.org/101084 | 03:34 |
openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: ofagent-l2pop https://review.openstack.org/89463 | 03:35 |
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openstackgerrit | yangxurong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Ml2 mechanism driver for Huawei SDN controller. https://review.openstack.org/97490 | 04:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Tomoe Sugihara proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support Quota extention in MidoNet plugin https://review.openstack.org/101062 | 04:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Chuck Carlino proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add test cases for plugins/ml2/plugin.py https://review.openstack.org/99129 | 05:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Enable setting default rules for default security group https://review.openstack.org/98966 | 05:20 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Smith proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Modify L3 Agent for Distributed Routers https://review.openstack.org/89413 | 05:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Enable setting default rules for default security group https://review.openstack.org/98966 | 05:24 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/101109 | 06:09 |
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openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove the useless vim modelines https://review.openstack.org/101112 | 06:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Phillip Toohill proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Improving LBaaS reference implementation https://review.openstack.org/100931 | 06:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Phillip Toohill proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Improving LBaaS reference implementation https://review.openstack.org/100931 | 06:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove __init__ method from TunnelCallback mixin https://review.openstack.org/101121 | 07:22 |
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openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ValueError should use '%' instead of ',' https://review.openstack.org/100431 | 07:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron mechanism driver for VCenter DVS network creation https://review.openstack.org/101124 | 07:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron mechanism driver for VCenter DVS network creation https://review.openstack.org/101124 | 07:46 |
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karimb | hello, why would a qrouter be unable to ping real gw when its qg interface is properly attached in br-ex (along with the br-ex of the neutron node) | 08:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Bob Melander proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Adds router service plugin for CSR1kv https://review.openstack.org/101002 | 08:26 |
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openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ValueError should use '%' instead of ',' https://review.openstack.org/100431 | 08:32 |
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atmark | hi, i'm encountering LBaaS issue similar to this https://answers.launchpad.net/neutron/+question/238738 | 08:43 |
atmark | restarting neutron-lbaas-agent didn't fix the issue. | 08:43 |
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atmark | anyone have an idea? | 08:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add L3 Extension for Distributed Routers https://review.openstack.org/84223 | 08:51 |
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openstackgerrit | yangxurong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Ml2 mechanism driver for Huawei SDN controller. https://review.openstack.org/97490 | 09:00 |
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zzelle | iwamoto ? | 09:48 |
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vthapar | zzelle: ping | 09:54 |
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zzelle | vthapar: hi | 09:54 |
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vthapar | zzelle: I was looking at the changes for deferred_apply and think I got the hang of them. any idea what is ETA on the merge? | 09:55 |
zzelle | vthapar: i don't know, the dev is supported by 2 persons (at least) ... but we don't have time :s | 09:56 |
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zzelle | vthapar: more precisely, it is not my main focus | 09:57 |
vthapar | zzelle: okay. does it require some more work, or just testing? | 09:57 |
zzelle | vthapar: if you want, you can review the change | 09:57 |
zzelle | vthapar: not sure in fact ... at least testing ...some improvement for sure | 09:58 |
vthapar | zzelle: I was planning to pick it and use it for my code. wanted to know if it is in decent enough form to use | 09:59 |
zzelle | vthapar: honestly the less review on the change, the less motivation we have | 09:59 |
vthapar | zzelle: makes sense. I'll pick it up and try it out, should have few review comments once I've done that. | 10:00 |
vthapar | zzelle: one question I had was, why go for a separaet deferred bridge, why not provide option when setting defer_apply_on/off? | 10:00 |
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zzelle | vthapar: because OVSBridge can be shared between multiple (g)threads and it's impossible to have a defer_apply_on/off really thread-safe | 10:02 |
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zzelle | vthapar: deferred bridge is associated to an "action" and being thread safe is no more required | 10:03 |
zzelle | the proposal implies lots of changes but the result should be easier to understand and debug | 10:04 |
vthapar | zzelle: the way you're using it for br-tun, each thread uses a separate deferred bridge, right? | 10:06 |
zzelle | vthapar: right | 10:07 |
vthapar | zzelle: could it work this way... | 10:07 |
vthapar | zzelle: defer_apply_on() creates and returns deferred bridge that is used in subsequent calls and this deferred bridge is used to call defer_apply_off() | 10:08 |
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vthapar | zzelle: so, basically collapsing deferred bridge creation into defer_apply_on(). I haven't given too much thought to it, but if it works, might be a simpler way to do it. | 10:09 |
zzelle | with deferred bridge defer_apply_on/off and are replaced by __enter__, __exit__ of the deferred birdge iirc | 10:09 |
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vthapar | zzelle: I am working on OVS firewall driver and securitygroups_rpc calls defer_apply_on/off. If I could just call it, it would've been much easier, now trying to figure out how to do that with deferred bridge. | 10:11 |
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zzelle | vthapar: that's the main trouble with the change ... you need to pass the deferred bridge as an argument to all methods | 10:12 |
zzelle | toshiromo ? | 10:13 |
zzelle | oups, Toshihiro ? | 10:13 |
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blinky_ghost | hi all, I'm having trouble to access to metadata service on my openstack from my vms. I can reach the network controller 8775 port inside the instance, but if I try to curl to http://169.254.169.254/openstack I always get "couldn't connect to host". Any hint? Thanks | 11:49 |
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devvesa | hi! | 15:01 |
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annegent_ | salv-orlando: or EmilienM: you'd probably know, the v2 Networking API supports XML right? | 15:13 |
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annegent_ | phil_h: you'd know, as far as I can tell you can tell the neutron client a request-format option and indicate either xml or json | 15:17 |
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phil_h | annegent_: I believe so but I have't tried it | 15:18 |
annegent_ | phil_h: fair enough :) | 15:18 |
phil_h | neutron help shows that option | 15:19 |
salv-orlando | annegent_: yes, it does | 15:19 |
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annegent_ | phil_h: salv-orlando: thanks! I found this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/quantum-v2-api-xml which shows it was implmented in grizzly | 15:19 |
salv-orlando | annegent_: indeed, support for xml was added in grizzly | 15:19 |
annegent_ | thanks y'all for confirming! | 15:20 |
annegent_ | now we can work on the doc bug related | 15:20 |
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rossella_s | salv-orlando: ping | 16:27 |
salv-orlando | hi rossella_s | 16:27 |
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rossella_s | salv-orlando: ciao Salvatore! I wanted to bother you about the SELECT FOR UPDATE lock problem...I sent a naive patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100963/ where I basically use resource lock to ensure consistency, anyway the resource lock won't be enough in case of multiple neutron servers. Is anybody taking care of adding a retry mechanism for a db operation that fails? | 16:30 |
salv-orlando | I think this has stalled a bit. | 16:30 |
salv-orlando | oslo.db has such capability - now that it’s graduated we should integrate it and leverage this capability | 16:30 |
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rossella_s | salv-orlando: is it too early to take care of that? | 16:31 |
salv-orlando | it’s never too earlu | 16:34 |
salv-orlando | rossella_s: too early | 16:34 |
salv-orlando | For this kind of work, I’m afraid, you will be required to submit a spec (well you had too also for that bug fix regaerding the bulk RPC call) | 16:35 |
rossella_s | salv-orlando: yes I have seen your comment. I will do that. A spec is a better place to discuss | 16:36 |
salv-orlando | yeah - a porting like oslo.db is technically simple | 16:36 |
rossella_s | never done that but happy to try | 16:36 |
salv-orlando | but then moving our stuff to olso.db from neutron.openstack.common.db might be hard | 16:36 |
salv-orlando | also, people are working on the database healing stuff and might be worried about conflicts or interdependiences. I don’t think there will be any | 16:37 |
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salv-orlando | but it’s better to investigate and clarify that in the specification | 16:37 |
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rossella_s | I will | 16:38 |
salv-orlando | this is the spe cI’m talking about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95738/ | 16:38 |
rossella_s | if it's hard I will ask for help...I think that there's an agreement that this is needed anyway | 16:38 |
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rossella_s | salv-orlando: thanks for the link...I will contact the people working on it and see what they think | 16:39 |
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salv-orlando | rossella_s: there is also a weekly “db” meeting at monday 3 pm your time | 16:45 |
salv-orlando | s/at/on | 16:45 |
rossella_s | salv-orlando: thanks, will attend next week | 16:46 |
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eezhova_ | SumitNaiksatam: ping? | 18:13 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: running the group policy meeting in -3 right now | 18:13 |
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pcm_ | enikanorov: ping | 18:25 |
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eezhova_ | SumitNaiksatam: may I have a word with you now? | 18:56 |
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SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: hi | 19:13 |
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eezhova_ | SumitNaiksatam: hi! it's the bug with checking source/destination port when creating firewall rule for icmp protocol (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1327955). | 19:14 |
eezhova_ | SumitNaiksatam: I looked into the implementation of iptables rules in neutron security groups and I found that there in case of icmp protocol source/destination port values are used to store type/code (https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/linux/iptables_firewall.py#L334). | 19:15 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: true | 19:15 |
eezhova_ | SumitNaiksatam: I wonder whether we should do the same thing for firewall rules? | 19:15 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: actually this has been brought up before | 19:16 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: and incidentally we are having this discussion in the fwaas team right now | 19:16 |
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eezhova_ | oh. and what is the desicion? | 19:16 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94133/ | 19:18 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: we are discussing there as to what is the best way forward | 19:18 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: personally i dont like the idea of overloading | 19:18 |
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SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: also you might want to check the logs from this weeks meeting where we had some back and forth on this: #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2014/networking_fwaas.2014-06-18-18.36.log.html | 19:19 |
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eezhova_ | SumitNaiksatam: Thank you for the links! As for now, could please you take a look at the fix of the corresponding bug? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99372/ | 19:21 |
eezhova_ | SumitNaiksatam: I fixed the exception as you recommended | 19:21 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: yes, i think i was happy with it | 19:21 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: thanks for the headsup, i will comment on the review | 19:21 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: also, if convenient, please feel free to join the fwaas IRC on wednesdays | 19:22 |
eezhova_ | SumitNaiksatam: Thank you for inviting me! I'll try to attend | 19:24 |
SumitNaiksatam | eezhova_: great, thanks! | 19:24 |
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HenryG | sc68cal: https://review.openstack.org/101306 | 19:56 |
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HenryG | sc68cal: Lots of things need to be refined. Please review and ping aveiga to look at it too. | 19:58 |
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sc68cal | HenryG: yup, I linked aveiga to it | 19:59 |
HenryG | sc68cal: Thanks. Need to go afk now. Will log in later tonight. | 19:59 |
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openstackgerrit | craigtracey proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Add Listener as part of new LBaaS object model https://review.openstack.org/101275 | 22:04 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/101109 | 22:06 |
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zzelle_ | Hi everyone | 22:13 |
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zzelle_ | rkukura, hi | 22:22 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: can i get your opinion about attributes used by mixin classes? | 22:51 |
salv-orlando | meh I have no opinion ;) | 22:51 |
salv-orlando | what do you mean? | 22:51 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: this small refactor here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101121/ | 22:52 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: is it even necessary to have those attributes defined in the mixin? | 22:52 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: other mixins often depend on attributes they don’t directly define | 22:53 |
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salv-orlando | kevinbenton: that’s an abuse, albeit common, to expect a mixin to be used with classes which expose particular attributes | 22:54 |
salv-orlando | I think it is even ok to some extens, however for this patch... | 22:55 |
salv-orlando | is the mixin in __init__ triying to initialze stuff which is supposed to be defined in other classes? I don’t think so. | 22:55 |
salv-orlando | or is that the case? | 22:55 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: the current code requires notifier and type_manager to be passed to init and then it just sets the attributes on itself | 22:56 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: it doesn’t actually initialize anything though | 22:56 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: “sets the attributes” and “doesn’t actually initialize anything” seem like conflicting statements to me | 22:57 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: yeah, i meant that it doesn’t make any function calls or construct new objects | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: just takes the parameters and stores them | 22:58 |
salv-orlando | ah so you think you need to sort of declare those attributes also on TunnelRpcCallbackMixin? | 22:58 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: well i didn’t at first, but then the reviewers were worried about them not being defined in the inheriting class | 22:59 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: so in the second patch, i set them there to None | 22:59 |
salv-orlando | that would be true if the Mixin is supposed to be used a standalone | 22:59 |
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salv-orlando | but since it’s a mixin, by *definition* it should not be directly instantiated | 23:00 |
salv-orlando | but being python there’s no way to enforce that I’m afraid | 23:00 |
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salv-orlando | unless you do metaclass sorcery or something like that but I’m talking nonsense probably | 23:00 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i imagine there is a way that looks horrifying :-) | 23:01 |
salv-orlando | I’d say that this mixin is expected to be applied to a class which has a notifier and type_manager instance attributes | 23:01 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: so was version 1 of that patch okay then? | 23:01 |
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salv-orlando | you can put that in the class docstring if you want, but the bottom line is that then if you apply that mixin to a class which does not have such attributes, then you should expect failures | 23:02 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: patchset #1 is better - but you can do one of the things the reviewer have asked - which is surely not what patchset 2 does. | 23:03 |
salv-orlando | That sounds a bit dangerous. | 23:03 |
salv-orlando | documenting the behaviour of Yamamoto suggests is the easy way. | 23:04 |
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salv-orlando | ihrachyshka suggests a probably cleaner way of doing things (note that it’s not an __init__) - but that would require an explict call in the subclass using the mixing | 23:04 |
kevinbenton | are there other examples of mixins that require specific initialization? I thought one of the goals of a mixin was to be able to inherit from it and get things for free | 23:06 |
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Sukhdev | salv-orlando: Hi | 23:10 |
nlahouti | rkukura: ping | 23:10 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: perhaps i should abandon that patch and leave it for someone that understands the best practices for mixins better | 23:12 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: I don’t think that would be necessary | 23:13 |
salv-orlando | a mixin is pretty much just a piece of behaviour. Initialization in my opinion is not required. Mostly because they’re a violation of OOP principle just for the concepts of being “floating” pieces of behaviour | 23:14 |
salv-orlando | what ihrachishka has been suggesting was a way to respect at least the incapsulation principle | 23:14 |
kevinbenton | and that seems counter to what I had seen throughout other mixin classes | 23:15 |
kevinbenton | many reference self.get_port, etc | 23:15 |
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zzelle_ | kevinbenton, the trouble is that according to your TunnelRpcCallbackMixin definition type_manager and notifier look like class attribute ... but they are instance attributes | 23:24 |
kevinbenton | zzelle_: yes, i don’t even prefer that approach | 23:25 |
kevinbenton | zzelle_: patch set 1 excluded them completely. i added them in 2 as a possible workaround | 23:26 |
zzelle_ | kevinbenton, you don't need to change TunnelRpcCallbackMixin implementation. just call multiple __init__ in RpcCallbacks | 23:26 |
zzelle_ | TunnelRpcCallbackMixin.__init__(notifier, manager) | 23:26 |
kevinbenton | zzelle_: yes, i wanted to avoid that. having to special-case a mixin init like that means something is wrong with the mixin | 23:27 |
20WAAHXAJ | Aaron Knister proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Decrement rules_index for duplicate chains https://review.openstack.org/89952 | 23:28 |
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kevinbenton | zzelle_: because a class cannot simply inherit it. it has to change it’s own __init__ method to be compatible | 23:29 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: personally I would just follow Yamamoto’s advice on patch set 1 | 23:29 |
zzelle_ | kevinbenton, the problem is the inherence order is wrong ! | 23:29 |
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zzelle_ | kevinbenton, normally mixins should before class | 23:30 |
zzelle_ | class RpcCallbacks(*Mixin, rpc_compat.RpcCallback) | 23:30 |
zzelle_ | that's the correct definition, one way to remember is that mixins decorate classes | 23:31 |
kevinbenton | zzelle_: it’s still broken because it requires a custom __init__ in the inheriter and it doesn’t call super.__init__ itself | 23:31 |
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salv-orlando | python’s super works in mysterious ways | 23:33 |
salv-orlando | https://fuhm.net/super-harmful/ | 23:33 |
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salv-orlando | when it comes to MRO inherithance is not what you might expect it to be | 23:34 |
zzelle_ | so TunnelMixin.__init__ should be a wrapper | 23:34 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: yes, that’s why requiring a call to __init__ is so fragile in the first place | 23:35 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: if someone makes the mistake of including another mixin before that one, everything breaks | 23:35 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: if the other mixin doesn’t call super.__init__(*args, **kwargs) | 23:36 |
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salv-orlando | so if you feel the need to have those two attributes declared in the mixin, go for an explicity initialization method, which is probably the wrapper zzelle__ talks about | 23:36 |
zzelle_ | kevinbenton, if a mixin defines __init__ it should call its super.__init__ | 23:36 |
zzelle_ | otherwise it breaks the decorator principle | 23:36 |
kevinbenton | zzelle_: and tunnel the tunnel mixin doesn’t | 23:37 |
zzelle_ | so correct it ? | 23:37 |
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kevinbenton | zzelle_: should it pass on the custom arguments that it required from the inheriter? | 23:37 |
zzelle_ | __init__(*args, **kwargs): kwargs.pop(type_manager/notifier); super.__init__ | 23:38 |
zzelle_ | kevinbenton, or replace __init__ by an initialize method | 23:39 |
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kevinbenton | zzelle_: popping the kwargs then means no other mixin can use them and these particular args very well may be useful to other mixins | 23:41 |
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kevinbenton | zzelle_: the custom init funcion is one route | 23:41 |
kevinbenton | zzelle_: but I don’t like it because no other mixins require this | 23:43 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i didn’t really want them declared in the mixin | 23:43 |
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zzelle_ | you could also so change tunnel_sync signature ? | 23:44 |
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kevinbenton | zzelle_: aren’t these RPC methods so the caller won’t have things like the type manager? | 23:48 |
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zzelle_ | don't know the context | 23:50 |
kevinbenton | zzelle_: i think it’s agents calling this so they won’t know ml2 internals like the notifier and the manager | 23:50 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando, zzelle_: thanks for the pointers. I’ll have to think about what to do. I’m not really comfortable pushing this patch now. | 23:58 |
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