Thursday, 2014-06-19

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openstackgerritSoheil Eizadi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Pluggable IPAM Subsystem in Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/9796700:07
openstackgerritguang-yee proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Add keystone v3 auth support  https://review.openstack.org/9239000:08
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Big Switch: Lock consistency table for REST calls  https://review.openstack.org/9894900:12
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lyxusWhat is the proper way to add code in the .rst of a spec ?00:18
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openstackgerritTomoe Sugihara proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support Quata extention in MidoNet plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10106200:26
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openstackgerritBob Melander proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Adds router service plugin for CSR1kv  https://review.openstack.org/10100200:28
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openstackgerritTomoe Sugihara proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support Quata extention in MidoNet plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10106200:32
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Big Switch: Lock consistency table for REST calls  https://review.openstack.org/9894900:34
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Big Switch: Remove consistency hash on full sync  https://review.openstack.org/9886300:35
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openstackgerritKarthik proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Design Spec For Brocade Vyatta L3 Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10105201:15
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openstackgerritFranck Yelles proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Support of host-routes and dns_nameservers via DHCP options for the Nuage Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10107001:31
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openstackgerritKarthik proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Design Spec For Brocade Vyatta L3 Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10105201:33
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Pass 'top' to remove_rule so that rule matching succeeds  https://review.openstack.org/10103901:48
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Using ipset for security group  https://review.openstack.org/10076101:53
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openstackgerritTomoe Sugihara proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support Quota extention in MidoNet plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10106202:22
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openstackgerritAbhishek Raut proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Control active number of REST calls from Cisco N1kv plugin to VSM  https://review.openstack.org/10038802:33
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ValueError should use '%' instead of ','  https://review.openstack.org/10043102:50
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ValueError should use '%' instead of ','  https://review.openstack.org/10043102:56
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markmcclainrossella_s: sorry was in meeting when you pinged earlier02:59
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS new object model no-op driver  https://review.openstack.org/10108403:19
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS new object model no-op driver  https://review.openstack.org/10108403:26
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS new object model no-op driver  https://review.openstack.org/10108403:34
openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: ofagent-l2pop  https://review.openstack.org/8946303:35
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS new object model no-op driver  https://review.openstack.org/10108403:39
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openstackgerrityangxurong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Ml2 mechanism driver for Huawei SDN controller.  https://review.openstack.org/9749004:22
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openstackgerritTomoe Sugihara proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support Quota extention in MidoNet plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10106204:50
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openstackgerritChuck Carlino proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add test cases for plugins/ml2/plugin.py  https://review.openstack.org/9912905:00
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openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Enable setting default rules for default security group  https://review.openstack.org/9896605:20
openstackgerritMichael Smith proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Modify L3 Agent for Distributed Routers  https://review.openstack.org/8941305:22
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openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Enable setting default rules for default security group  https://review.openstack.org/9896605:24
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10110906:09
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove the useless vim modelines  https://review.openstack.org/10111206:32
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Improving LBaaS reference implementation  https://review.openstack.org/10093106:40
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Improving LBaaS reference implementation  https://review.openstack.org/10093106:44
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove __init__ method from TunnelCallback mixin  https://review.openstack.org/10112107:22
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ValueError should use '%' instead of ','  https://review.openstack.org/10043107:28
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openstackgerritFeng Xi Yan proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron mechanism driver for VCenter DVS network creation  https://review.openstack.org/10112407:44
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openstackgerritFeng Xi Yan proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron mechanism driver for VCenter DVS network creation  https://review.openstack.org/10112407:46
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karimbhello, why would a qrouter be unable to ping real gw when its qg interface is properly attached in br-ex (along with the br-ex of the neutron node)08:23
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openstackgerritBob Melander proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Adds router service plugin for CSR1kv  https://review.openstack.org/10100208:26
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ValueError should use '%' instead of ','  https://review.openstack.org/10043108:32
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atmarkhi, i'm encountering LBaaS issue similar to this https://answers.launchpad.net/neutron/+question/23873808:43
atmarkrestarting neutron-lbaas-agent didn't fix the issue.08:43
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atmarkanyone have an idea?08:44
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add L3 Extension for Distributed Routers  https://review.openstack.org/8422308:51
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openstackgerrityangxurong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Ml2 mechanism driver for Huawei SDN controller.  https://review.openstack.org/9749009:00
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zzelleiwamoto ?09:48
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vthaparzzelle: ping09:54
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zzellevthapar: hi09:54
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vthaparzzelle: I was looking at the changes for deferred_apply and think I got the hang of them. any idea what is ETA on the merge?09:55
zzellevthapar: i don't know, the dev is supported by 2 persons (at least) ... but we don't have time :s09:56
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zzellevthapar: more precisely, it is not my main focus09:57
vthaparzzelle: okay. does it require some more work, or just testing?09:57
zzellevthapar: if you want, you can review the change09:57
zzellevthapar: not sure in fact ... at least testing ...some improvement for sure09:58
vthaparzzelle: I was planning to pick it and use it for my code. wanted to know if it is in decent enough form to use09:59
zzellevthapar: honestly the less review on the change, the less motivation we have09:59
vthaparzzelle: makes sense. I'll pick it up and try it out, should have few review comments once I've done that.10:00
vthaparzzelle: one question I had was, why go for a separaet deferred bridge, why not provide option when setting defer_apply_on/off?10:00
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zzellevthapar: because OVSBridge can be shared between multiple (g)threads and it's impossible to have a defer_apply_on/off really thread-safe10:02
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zzellevthapar: deferred bridge is associated to an "action" and being thread safe is no more required10:03
zzellethe proposal implies lots of changes but the result should be easier to understand and debug10:04
vthaparzzelle: the way you're using it for br-tun, each thread uses a separate deferred bridge, right?10:06
zzellevthapar: right10:07
vthaparzzelle: could it work this way...10:07
vthaparzzelle: defer_apply_on() creates and returns deferred bridge that is used in subsequent calls and this deferred bridge is used to call defer_apply_off()10:08
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vthaparzzelle: so, basically collapsing deferred bridge creation into defer_apply_on(). I haven't given too much thought to it, but if it works, might be a simpler way to do it.10:09
zzellewith deferred bridge defer_apply_on/off and are replaced by __enter__, __exit__ of the deferred birdge iirc10:09
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vthaparzzelle: I am working on OVS firewall driver and securitygroups_rpc calls defer_apply_on/off. If I could just call it, it would've been much easier, now trying to figure out how to do that with deferred bridge.10:11
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zzellevthapar: that's the main trouble with the change ... you need to pass the deferred bridge as an argument to all methods10:12
zzelletoshiromo ?10:13
zzelleoups, Toshihiro ?10:13
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blinky_ghosthi all, I'm having trouble to access to metadata service on my openstack from my vms. I can reach the network  controller 8775 port inside the instance, but if I try to curl to http://169.254.169.254/openstack I always get "couldn't connect to host". Any hint? Thanks11:49
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devvesahi!15:01
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annegent_salv-orlando: or EmilienM: you'd probably know, the v2 Networking API supports XML right?15:13
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annegent_phil_h: you'd know, as far as I can tell you can tell the neutron client a request-format option and indicate either xml or json15:17
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phil_hannegent_: I believe so but I have't tried it15:18
annegent_phil_h: fair enough :)15:18
phil_hneutron help shows that option15:19
salv-orlandoannegent_: yes, it does15:19
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annegent_phil_h: salv-orlando: thanks! I found this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/quantum-v2-api-xml which shows it was implmented in grizzly15:19
salv-orlandoannegent_: indeed, support for xml was added in grizzly15:19
annegent_thanks y'all for confirming!15:20
annegent_now we can work on the doc bug related15:20
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rossella_ssalv-orlando: ping16:27
salv-orlandohi rossella_s16:27
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rossella_ssalv-orlando: ciao Salvatore! I wanted to bother you about the SELECT FOR UPDATE lock problem...I sent a naive patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100963/ where I basically use resource lock to ensure consistency, anyway the resource lock won't be enough in case of multiple neutron servers. Is anybody taking care of adding a retry mechanism for a db operation that fails?16:30
salv-orlandoI think this has stalled a bit.16:30
salv-orlandooslo.db has such capability - now that it’s graduated we should integrate it and leverage this capability16:30
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rossella_ssalv-orlando: is it too early to take care of that?16:31
salv-orlandoit’s never too earlu16:34
salv-orlandorossella_s: too early16:34
salv-orlandoFor this kind of work, I’m afraid, you will be required to submit a spec (well you had too also for that bug fix regaerding the bulk RPC call)16:35
rossella_ssalv-orlando: yes I have seen your comment. I will do that. A spec is a better place to discuss16:36
salv-orlandoyeah - a porting like oslo.db is technically simple16:36
rossella_snever done that but happy to try16:36
salv-orlandobut then moving our stuff to olso.db from neutron.openstack.common.db might be hard16:36
salv-orlandoalso, people are working on the database healing stuff and might be worried about conflicts or interdependiences. I don’t think there will be any16:37
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salv-orlandobut it’s better to investigate and clarify that in the specification16:37
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rossella_sI will16:38
salv-orlandothis is the spe cI’m talking about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95738/16:38
rossella_sif it's hard I will ask for help...I think that there's an agreement that this is needed anyway16:38
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rossella_ssalv-orlando: thanks for the link...I will contact the people working on it and see what they think16:39
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salv-orlandorossella_s: there is also a weekly “db” meeting at monday 3 pm your time16:45
salv-orlandos/at/on16:45
rossella_ssalv-orlando: thanks, will attend next week16:46
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[1]eezhovaSumitNaiksatam: hello!17:58
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eezhova_SumitNaiksatam: ping?18:13
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: running the group policy meeting in -3 right now18:13
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pcm_enikanorov: ping18:25
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eezhova_SumitNaiksatam: may I have a word with you now?18:56
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SumitNaiksatameezhova_: hi19:13
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eezhova_SumitNaiksatam: hi! it's the bug with checking source/destination port when creating firewall rule for icmp protocol (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1327955).19:14
eezhova_SumitNaiksatam: I looked into the implementation of iptables rules in neutron security groups and I found that there in case of icmp protocol source/destination port values are used to store type/code (https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/linux/iptables_firewall.py#L334).19:15
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: true19:15
eezhova_SumitNaiksatam: I wonder whether we should do the same thing for firewall rules?19:15
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: actually this has been brought up before19:16
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: and incidentally we are having this discussion in the fwaas team right now19:16
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eezhova_oh. and what is the desicion?19:16
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94133/19:18
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: we are discussing there as to what is the best way forward19:18
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: personally i dont like the idea of overloading19:18
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SumitNaiksatameezhova_: also you might want to check the logs from this weeks meeting where we had some back and forth on this: #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2014/networking_fwaas.2014-06-18-18.36.log.html19:19
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eezhova_SumitNaiksatam: Thank you for the links! As for now, could please you take a look at the fix of the corresponding bug? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99372/19:21
eezhova_SumitNaiksatam: I fixed the exception as you recommended19:21
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: yes, i think i was happy with it19:21
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: thanks for the headsup, i will comment on the review19:21
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: also, if convenient, please feel free to join the fwaas IRC on wednesdays19:22
eezhova_SumitNaiksatam: Thank you for inviting me! I'll try to attend19:24
SumitNaiksatameezhova_: great, thanks!19:24
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HenryGsc68cal: https://review.openstack.org/10130619:56
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HenryGsc68cal: Lots of things need to be refined. Please review and ping aveiga to look at it too.19:58
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sc68calHenryG: yup, I linked aveiga to it19:59
HenryGsc68cal: Thanks. Need to go afk now. Will log in later tonight.19:59
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openstackgerritcraigtracey proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Add Listener as part of new LBaaS object model  https://review.openstack.org/10127522:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10110922:06
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zzelle_Hi everyone22:13
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zzelle_rkukura, hi22:22
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kevinbentonsalv-orlando: can i get your opinion about attributes used by mixin classes?22:51
salv-orlandomeh I have no opinion ;)22:51
salv-orlandowhat do you mean?22:51
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kevinbentonsalv-orlando: this small refactor here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101121/22:52
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: is it even necessary to have those attributes defined in the mixin?22:52
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: other mixins often depend on attributes they don’t directly define22:53
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salv-orlandokevinbenton: that’s an abuse, albeit common, to expect a mixin to be used with classes which expose particular attributes22:54
salv-orlandoI think it is even ok to some extens, however for this patch...22:55
salv-orlandois the mixin in __init__ triying to initialze stuff which is supposed to be defined in other classes? I don’t think so.22:55
salv-orlandoor is that the case?22:55
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: the current code requires notifier and type_manager to be passed to init and then it just sets the attributes on itself22:56
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: it doesn’t actually initialize anything though22:56
salv-orlandokevinbenton: “sets the attributes” and “doesn’t actually initialize anything” seem like conflicting statements to me22:57
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: yeah, i meant that it doesn’t make any function calls or construct new objects22:58
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: just takes the parameters and stores them22:58
salv-orlandoah so you think you need to sort of declare those attributes also on TunnelRpcCallbackMixin?22:58
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kevinbentonsalv-orlando: well i didn’t at first, but then the reviewers were worried about them not being defined in the inheriting class22:59
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: so in the second patch, i set them there to None22:59
salv-orlandothat would be true if the Mixin is supposed to be used a standalone22:59
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salv-orlandobut since it’s a mixin, by *definition* it should not be directly instantiated23:00
salv-orlandobut being python there’s no way to enforce that I’m afraid23:00
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salv-orlandounless you do metaclass sorcery or something like that but I’m talking nonsense probably23:00
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: i imagine there is a way that looks horrifying :-)23:01
salv-orlandoI’d say that this mixin is expected to be applied to a class which has a notifier and type_manager instance attributes23:01
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kevinbentonsalv-orlando: so was version 1 of that patch okay then?23:01
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salv-orlandoyou can put that in the class docstring if you want, but the bottom line is that then if you apply that mixin to a class which does not have such attributes, then you should expect failures23:02
salv-orlandokevinbenton: patchset #1 is better - but you can do one of the things the reviewer have asked - which is surely not what patchset 2 does.23:03
salv-orlandoThat sounds a bit dangerous.23:03
salv-orlandodocumenting the behaviour of Yamamoto suggests is the easy way.23:04
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salv-orlandoihrachyshka suggests a probably cleaner way of doing things (note that it’s not an __init__) - but that would require an explict call in the subclass using the mixing23:04
kevinbentonare there other examples of mixins that require specific initialization? I thought one of the goals of a mixin was to be able to inherit from it and get things for free23:06
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Sukhdevsalv-orlando: Hi23:10
nlahoutirkukura: ping23:10
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kevinbentonsalv-orlando: perhaps i should abandon that patch and leave it for someone that understands the best practices for mixins better23:12
salv-orlandokevinbenton: I don’t think that would be necessary23:13
salv-orlandoa mixin is pretty much just a piece of behaviour. Initialization in my opinion is not required. Mostly because they’re a violation of OOP principle just for the concepts of being “floating” pieces of behaviour23:14
salv-orlandowhat ihrachishka has been suggesting was a way to respect at least the incapsulation principle23:14
kevinbentonand that seems counter to what I had seen throughout other mixin classes23:15
kevinbentonmany reference self.get_port, etc23:15
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zzelle_kevinbenton, the trouble is that according to your TunnelRpcCallbackMixin definition type_manager and notifier look like class attribute ... but they are instance attributes23:24
kevinbentonzzelle_: yes, i don’t even prefer that approach23:25
kevinbentonzzelle_: patch set 1 excluded them completely. i added them in 2 as a possible workaround23:26
zzelle_kevinbenton, you don't need to change TunnelRpcCallbackMixin implementation. just call multiple __init__ in RpcCallbacks23:26
zzelle_TunnelRpcCallbackMixin.__init__(notifier, manager)23:26
kevinbentonzzelle_: yes, i wanted to avoid that. having to special-case a mixin init like that means something is wrong with the mixin23:27
20WAAHXAJAaron Knister proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Decrement rules_index for duplicate chains  https://review.openstack.org/8995223:28
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kevinbentonzzelle_: because a class cannot simply inherit it. it has to change it’s own __init__ method to be compatible23:29
salv-orlandokevinbenton: personally I would just follow Yamamoto’s advice on patch set 123:29
zzelle_kevinbenton, the problem is the inherence order is wrong !23:29
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zzelle_kevinbenton, normally mixins should before class23:30
zzelle_class RpcCallbacks(*Mixin, rpc_compat.RpcCallback)23:30
zzelle_that's the correct definition, one way to remember is that mixins decorate classes23:31
kevinbentonzzelle_: it’s still broken because it requires a custom __init__ in the inheriter and it doesn’t call super.__init__ itself23:31
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salv-orlandopython’s super works in mysterious ways23:33
salv-orlandohttps://fuhm.net/super-harmful/23:33
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salv-orlandowhen it comes to MRO inherithance is not what you might expect it to be23:34
zzelle_so TunnelMixin.__init__ should be a wrapper23:34
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: yes, that’s why requiring a call to __init__ is so fragile in the first place23:35
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: if someone makes the mistake of including another mixin before that one, everything breaks23:35
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kevinbentonsalv-orlando: if the other mixin doesn’t call super.__init__(*args, **kwargs)23:36
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salv-orlandoso if you feel the need to have those two attributes declared in the mixin, go for an explicity initialization method, which is probably the wrapper zzelle__ talks about23:36
zzelle_kevinbenton, if a mixin defines __init__ it should call its super.__init__23:36
zzelle_otherwise it breaks the decorator principle23:36
kevinbentonzzelle_: and tunnel the tunnel mixin doesn’t23:37
zzelle_so correct it ?23:37
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kevinbentonzzelle_: should it pass on the custom arguments that it required from the inheriter?23:37
zzelle___init__(*args, **kwargs): kwargs.pop(type_manager/notifier); super.__init__23:38
zzelle_kevinbenton, or replace __init__ by an initialize method23:39
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kevinbentonzzelle_: popping the kwargs then means no other mixin can use them and these particular args very well may be useful to other mixins23:41
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kevinbentonzzelle_: the custom init funcion is one route23:41
kevinbentonzzelle_: but I don’t like it because no other mixins require this23:43
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: i didn’t really want them declared in the mixin23:43
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zzelle_you could also so change tunnel_sync signature ?23:44
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kevinbentonzzelle_: aren’t these RPC methods so the caller won’t have things like the type manager?23:48
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zzelle_don't know the context23:50
kevinbentonzzelle_: i think it’s agents calling this so they won’t know ml2 internals like the notifier and the manager23:50
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kevinbentonsalv-orlando, zzelle_: thanks for the pointers. I’ll have to think about what to do. I’m not really comfortable pushing this patch now.23:58
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