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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Port to oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/97291 | 01:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Renamed start_rpc_listener -> start_rpc_listeners https://review.openstack.org/98808 | 01:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Renamed argument for create_consumer[s] https://review.openstack.org/98810 | 01:30 |
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| dougwig | hi neutron. do any of you run the unit tests on a mac? seems to mostly work, until i hit a filesystem case-sensitivity issue with queue/Queue. yes, i have a vm to use instead, just curious. | 01:33 |
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| dougwig | i see that the wiki lists it as a valid environment; let me clean out my virtualenv and try again. | 01:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ValueError should use '%' instead of ',' https://review.openstack.org/100431 | 01:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | yangxurong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Ml2 mechanism driver for Huawei SDN controller. https://review.openstack.org/97490 | 02:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: fix html rendering of neutron-ovs-dvr spec https://review.openstack.org/101390 | 02:30 |
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| lifeless | hi | 02:54 |
| * jamespd waves | 02:54 | |
| lifeless | mestery: around? or anyone really - the commit e5cdad90f97d3a54a493eca19e7a3ff643426de1 breaks gre tunnel synchronisation for tripleo deploys | 02:55 |
| lifeless | jamespd: hi! | 02:55 |
| lifeless | we haven't tracked it all the way down, but the symptoms are very clear | 02:55 |
| lifeless | it appears the agent just doesn't get tunnel updates anymore | 02:55 |
| lifeless | I'm *guessing* its something to do with the use of the integration bridge mac as the tunnel endpoint, but *haaaandwave* | 02:56 |
| jamespd | heh | 02:56 |
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| lifeless | We've put a patch in place to revert that in the images we build so that our checks can run again | 02:58 |
| lifeless | but, we'd like to revert it in neutron - you can check whatever re-attempt is used via 'check experimental' to get tripleo jobs run on it | 02:58 |
| lifeless | jamespd: any thoughts? | 03:00 |
| jamespd | sorry, that is a bit out of my wheel-house. | 03:00 |
| jamespd | I was hoping for something a little less gre/trippleo, which I pretty much know nothing about. | 03:00 |
| jamespd | :/ | 03:00 |
| lifeless | ah | 03:00 |
| lifeless | so it'll hit vxlan too AFAICT | 03:00 |
| lifeless | its really about the ovs agent | 03:00 |
| * jamespd supposes he knows a bit about the ovs agent | 03:01 | |
| * jamespd checks the commit | 03:01 | |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Revert "ovs-agent: Ensure integration bridge is created" https://review.openstack.org/101395 | 03:02 |
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| mestery | lifeless: Looking at the revert commit now. | 03:03 |
| lifeless | mestery: thanks | 03:03 |
| mestery | lifeless: I'm not sure why that would cause those issues, but I'm happy to approve the revert now until we figure out why. | 03:03 |
| lifeless | mestery: we've got full debug logs referenced from the bugs | 03:03 |
| lifeless | erm bug | 03:03 |
| lifeless | mestery: they'll stay around for whatever time infra keeps them ? 30 days? | 03:04 |
| lifeless | mestery: thank you! | 03:04 |
| lifeless | mestery: the thing that stood out to me is that the rpc agent setup depends on the br-int *state* | 03:04 |
| lifeless | mestery: and the rpc agent setup is moved *after* br-int configuration | 03:04 |
| mestery | lifeless: Yes, that seems like an oversight. | 03:04 |
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| lifeless | mestery: whereas before it was before. Nothing *obviously* harmful in there, but its the only theory we have. | 03:05 |
| * mestery nods in approval. | 03:05 | |
| lifeless | mestery: we had a failure rate of 95+% and reverting this patch did 3 passes in a row | 03:05 |
| lifeless | so we're pretty confident | 03:05 |
| mestery | Yikes! Sorry about that lifeless. | 03:06 |
| lifeless | mestery: not your fault - our jobs are still in experimental, due to lots of reasons | 03:06 |
| mestery | I've had travel issues today (cancelled flights), now leaving current location very early tomorrow. | 03:06 |
| lifeless | mestery: but anytime you want to know multi-node and/or tripleo status, run 'check experimental' | 03:06 |
| lifeless | and you'll get some multi-node gre testing | 03:06 |
| mestery | lifeless: Good to know | 03:06 |
| mestery | lifeless: Cool, thanks! | 03:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: NSX: propagate network name updates to backend https://review.openstack.org/101187 | 03:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Allowed address pair: Removing check for overlap with fixed ips https://review.openstack.org/97706 | 04:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron mechanism driver for VCenter DVS network creation https://review.openstack.org/101124 | 04:33 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: do you have failure logs for that? | 07:13 |
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| lifeless | kevinbenton: yes, linked from the bug | 07:18 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: when i follow the link from the bug it appears as though all 3 nodes received the appropriate tunnel updates | 07:48 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: and created tunnel interfaces | 07:49 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: http://logs.openstack.org/74/100374/2/experimental-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/0180696/logs/overcloud-controller0-rhvtbim4nccr_logs/neutron-openvswitch-agent.txt.gz | 07:49 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: http://logs.openstack.org/74/100374/2/experimental-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/0180696/logs/overcloud-NovaCompute0-rcla46xaniom_logs/neutron-openvswitch-agent.txt.gz | 07:49 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: http://logs.openstack.org/74/100374/2/experimental-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/0180696/logs/overcloud-NovaCompute1-3aoscjdsvowc_logs/neutron-openvswitch-agent.txt.gz | 07:49 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: if you search for ‘type=gre’ you can see that the ports were created | 07:50 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: gimme a sec | 07:50 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: righto so | 07:52 |
| lifeless | download http://logs.openstack.org/74/100374/2/experimental-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/0180696/logs/overcloud-NovaCompute0-rcla46xaniom_logs.tar.xz | 07:52 |
| lifeless | inside that, in /var/logs/host_info.txt | 07:52 |
| lifeless | there is the output of ovs-vsctl show taken at the end of the run | 07:52 |
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| lifeless | http://paste.openstack.org/show/84549/ | 07:52 |
| lifeless | you can see that we don't have the ports :) | 07:53 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: similarly for the other hypervisor, which looks like http://paste.openstack.org/show/84550/. gotta bounce for a little, bbiab | 07:54 |
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| zzelle | yamamoto_: hi | 08:10 |
| yamamoto_ | hi | 08:10 |
| zzelle | yamamoto_: if you have time, could you give your feedback on the neutron-spec about dhcp-agent customization ? | 08:11 |
| zzelle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99356/ | 08:11 |
| yamamoto_ | i will | 08:12 |
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| zzelle | yamamoto_: thanks for you rtime/feedback :) | 08:13 |
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| yamamoto_ | np | 08:15 |
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| yamamoto_ | zzelle: done | 08:32 |
| yamamoto_ | and time to go home. later. | 08:32 |
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| lifeless | kevinbenton: back | 08:35 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: http://review.openstack.org/101447 | 08:38 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: i suspect the patch you want to revert changed the timing just enough that RPC tunnel updates started getting processed right before the setup tunnel bridge got called | 08:39 |
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| lifeless | kevinbenton: yep; there's another place that setup happens which would also wipe stuff; does that trigger a full sync there too ? | 08:40 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: around line 1351 | 08:41 |
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| lifeless | kevinbenton: or is there a latent bug there where if ovs is restarted we'll wipe and not restore the gre ports? | 08:41 |
| lifeless | (since setup_tunnel_br doesn't setup the ports) | 08:42 |
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| lifeless | kevinbenton: I've triggered a tripleo test run on that patch | 08:43 |
| lifeless | I hope. hmm | 08:44 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: ok. yeah, it still seems like there is another bug here | 08:44 |
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| lifeless | ah yep, tripleo-experimental jobs running | 08:44 |
| lifeless | check-tripleo-overcloud-precise: is the one to look at | 08:44 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: oh, i think i see the problem. i don’t think my current bug fix is correct | 08:48 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: can you cancel? | 08:48 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: the test? nope, would need infra. It will cancel automatically if you push a new patchset/whatever. | 08:48 |
| kevinbenton | ok, one sec | 08:48 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: its just like all the infra jobs in that regard | 08:48 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: wasn’t sure if it was special since it was ‘real hardware’ so to speak | 08:48 |
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| lifeless | kevinbenton: ah, no its still virtualised | 08:50 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: we have a manual setup L2 ovs network, and on that a bunch of KVM's set to PXE boot, which we treat as real metal | 08:51 |
| lifeless | its close enough to catch most rw problems | 08:51 |
| lifeless | erm real world | 08:51 |
| lifeless | doesn't tell us about e.g. bad IPMI code or whatever | 08:51 |
| lifeless | ok, I need to halt() - talk with you tomorrow | 08:52 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: just pushed another change | 08:54 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: seems kind of obvious now unless i’m missing something | 08:55 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: was calling tunnel_sync and then resetting the bridge | 08:55 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: wait, i take it back ;-) | 08:56 |
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| kashyapk | Hello! | 09:03 |
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| kashyapk | I'm trying to install Neutron referring to the install guide. But it says that I need three NICs on the dedicated network node: MGMT_INTERFACE, EXTERNAL_INTERFACE and DATA_INTERFACE. But i dont see the MGMT_INTERFACE being used anywhere else in the document. Can someone please shed some light on this? | 09:06 |
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| zzelle | kashyap: the MGMT_INTERFACE is the interface for management ... | 09:18 |
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| zzelle | kashyap: so you need it to reach the server | 09:19 |
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| kashyap | zzelle, It's identical nick, I'm different from kashyapk who's just changed his nick to -> kopparam | 09:25 |
| kashyap | (Almost* identical) | 09:26 |
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| zzelle | kashyap: rofl | 09:28 |
| zzelle | kashyap: sorry | 09:28 |
| kashyap | zzelle, Np :-) | 09:28 |
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| zzelle | kopparam: the MGMT_INTERFACE is the interface for management ... so you need it to reach the server | 09:29 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: what is the proper way to revert a revert commit | 09:40 |
| salv-orlando | revert the revert commit | 09:42 |
| salv-orlando | it has been done before | 09:42 |
| salv-orlando | at the end of the day a revert commit is just another commit. You’ll end up with a commit message like this | 09:42 |
| salv-orlando | “revert “revert <commit-being-originally_reverted”” | 09:43 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: okay, just wanted to make sure that was right | 09:51 |
| kevinbenton | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101463/1 | 09:51 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: is that commit log okay, or should i provide more context than a pile of hashes | 09:52 |
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| kopparam | thnks kashyap and zzelle | 09:54 |
| kopparam | yup my IRC client had the old name. Now I'm registered with this nick | 09:54 |
| kashyap | Cool | 09:54 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: anyway restoring that patch is not super urgent, so I would wait for your other fix to go in (101447) and then let the other merge. | 09:54 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i suppose that would work too. was just being lazy to avoid the conflic resolution | 09:55 |
| salv-orlando | that’s ok. I was more worried about tripleO gate freaking out | 09:56 |
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| salv-orlando | tripleO team says their gate is quite without that patch, so that’s why I reverted even if I could hardly understand the reason. It’s a simple patch that can be restored at any time, as you’ve done now. | 09:56 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: so is it okay now, or should i reverse the order to put my fix in first? | 10:00 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: the problem is that if i put my fix in first, then the revert will have conflict resolution as well | 10:00 |
| salv-orlando | nope, I will review 101447 and put 101463 in wip until 101447 is merged? | 10:00 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: come on, conflict resolution there will be trivial ;) | 10:01 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: well 101447 is dependent on 101463, so you will be waiting a long time :-) | 10:01 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: that’s what I meant about reversing the order. my fix now conflicts with the state of master so i reverted the revert and made my fix dependent on that | 10:03 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: so mine can’t go in without the revert revert | 10:04 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i think i should reverse them so there isn’t a small window of broken stuff for tripleo | 10:05 |
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| kevinbenton | well i’ll leave it as-is unless someone suggests otherwise | 10:07 |
| kevinbenton | otherwise moving some of the method calls looks strange | 10:08 |
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| salv-orlando | ok gotcha | 10:13 |
| salv-orlando | fine | 10:13 |
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| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: hey. can I ask you to check that db lock patch(es) to see whether I've addressed your comments? Of course I'll add UT later, I just want to see whether the code itself is sane now: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bug/1330955,n,z | 10:21 |
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| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: seems good to me | 10:39 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: thanks, I'll work on UT now | 10:44 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: is this vmware UT problem known? http://logs.openstack.org/47/101447/3/check/gate-neutron-python26/69da3af/testr_results.html.gz | 10:51 |
| salv-orlando | there is somebody working on it - did not got an answer yet. | 10:51 |
| salv-orlando | But if it’s not fixed soon, we’ll see whether it’s the case to temporarily remove the plugin from the source tree | 10:52 |
| kevinbenton | is there a bug i can reference for a recheck or should i just do recheck no bug | 10:52 |
| salv-orlando | I don’t think I’ve seen a bug yet | 10:52 |
| kevinbenton | would you like me to file one? | 10:52 |
| salv-orlando | I think somebody is doing or has already done that. | 10:52 |
| salv-orlando | anyway, you probably want to sleep now - so i can do the bug. | 10:53 |
| kevinbenton | ok, can you launch a recheck on the patch for me then? | 10:53 |
| kevinbenton | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101447/ | 10:53 |
| salv-orlando | yes sure. | 10:53 |
| kevinbenton | thanks | 10:54 |
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| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: kevinbenton: I suspect this can be triggered by oslo.messaging, I think I saw it once while working on the port, though it didn't show up later, so I assumed that's some random failure and forgot about it | 10:59 |
| ihrachyshka | but who knows, maybe it started to fail even before, I haven't search thru elastic | 10:59 |
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| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: oslo.messaging might have triggered that but since those unit tests a few movint parts it might just have uncovered something which was always lying there. | 11:01 |
| salv-orlando | Anyway, this has to be fixed today. If it’s not fixed I will take the vmware plugin out of the source tree. | 11:01 |
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| salv-orlando | Which sould reassure you that I’m positive you’ll see a patch today ;) | 11:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove __init__ method from TunnelCallback mixin https://review.openstack.org/101121 | 11:02 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: sounds invasive. all that for a single sporadic failure? | 11:02 |
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| ihrachyshka | or are there more guilts? | 11:02 |
| salv-orlando | well, that’s what happens when you break the gate | 11:03 |
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| salv-orlando | also - the author of the patch which triggered the bug will be executed. | 11:03 |
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| salv-orlando | did I mention he will be executed by being crushed under a rock? | 11:04 |
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| ihrachyshka | scary. I'll reconsider my visit to the next summit :D | 11:05 |
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| enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: http://logs.openstack.org/91/100991/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/169d6c6/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_2014-06-20_07_56_17_396 | 11:15 |
| enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: please take a look | 11:16 |
| ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: looking | 11:17 |
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| enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: i think we've got a new bug | 11:19 |
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| ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: what's the patch that failed this way? | 11:19 |
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| enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: whole gate, beginning with 19-06, but it doesn't lead to job failures | 11:20 |
| enikanorov_ | just lots of tracebacks in the logs | 11:20 |
| enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOiBcIkF0dHJpYnV0ZUVycm9yOiAnQ29udGV4dCcgb2JqZWN0IGhhcyBubyBhdHRyaWJ1dGUgJ2l0ZXJpdGVtcydcIiIsImZpZWxkcyI6W10sIm9mZnNldCI6MCwidGltZWZyYW1lIjoiODY0MDAiLCJncmFwaG1vZGUiOiJjb3VudCIsInRpbWUiOnsidXNlcl9pbnRlcnZhbCI6MH0sInN0YW1wIjoxNDAzMjYzMTMxMzQ5fQ== | 11:20 |
| stdg11_ | Has anyone got any pointers on troubleshooting neutron? I cant get connectivity to VM's | 11:20 |
| ihrachyshka | hm, weird, I think I've checked q-svc multiple times while working on the port. I think I have an idea how to fix that | 11:21 |
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| enikanorov_ | yep, should be simple | 11:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Check port value when creating firewall rule with icmp protocol https://review.openstack.org/99372 | 11:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Pass serializer to oslo.messaging Notifier https://review.openstack.org/101485 | 11:36 |
| enikanorov_ | salv-orlando: looking at lock wait timeouts i'm starting to have a feeling that every single create/update operation is affected | 11:36 |
| ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: should be this one, let's see how it goes in gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101485/1/neutron/common/rpc.py | 11:37 |
| enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: yep, looks like it, thanks! | 11:37 |
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| ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: if we're going to use it for notifier (and we probably will), we will need to rename that PluginRpcSerializer to something more generic, f.e. it's RequestContextSerializer in nova | 11:38 |
| enikanorov_ | that makes sense imo | 11:39 |
| ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: ok, let's allow that original patch to complete gate run, and if it shows it fixes the issue, I'll re-upload the patch with renaming included | 11:40 |
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| salv-orlando | enikanorov_: so does this mean that it’s the end of the world? | 12:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Pass serializer to oslo.messaging Notifier https://review.openstack.org/101485 | 12:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Vivekanandan Narasimhan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: L2 enhancement for L3 DVR https://review.openstack.org/87730 | 12:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Vivekanandan Narasimhan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add L3 Extension for Distributed Routers https://review.openstack.org/84223 | 12:15 |
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| enikanorov_ | salv-orlando: or the beginning :) | 12:20 |
| salv-orlando | ah quoting churchill now? | 12:21 |
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| enikanorov_ | salv-orlando: not familiar with much of his speeches | 12:28 |
| enikanorov_ | I just look at the list of bugs on lock timeouts and it includes lots of different tables that are accessed differently, and yet the same issue is hit | 12:29 |
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| ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: I was going to spend some time analysing ml2 code with special attention to possible yields, probably next week. nothing will replace thoughtful code reading until we fail hard on any attempt to yield from under transaction | 12:30 |
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| ihrachyshka | I think we should return back to idea of failure on improper yield somewhere after J | 12:31 |
| ihrachyshka | or even maybe this cycle | 12:31 |
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| enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: how are you going to detect 'improper yield' and what it even is? | 12:33 |
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| ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: yield from under database transaction. probably we can monkey patch eventlet yield to detect it. I don't know how to access session object from that patched yield though, I need to think a bit | 12:39 |
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| ihrachyshka | any yield from under transaction is improper, even if it does not result in failure today. It will - tomorrow | 12:39 |
| ihrachyshka | maybe storing session on local thread storage each time we enter transaction? | 12:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Murali Birru proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add L3 Scheduler Changes for Distributed Routers https://review.openstack.org/89694 | 12:42 |
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| rkukura | ihrachyshka: Agree 100% any yield under a transaction is improper! | 12:47 |
| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix auto_schedule_networks to resist DBDuplicateEntry https://review.openstack.org/100903 | 12:47 |
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| rkukura | ihrachyshka: Actually, I’d say “any explicit yield under a transaction is improper”. I think we would want the underlying SQL library to yield the thread implicitly while waiting on socket data, right? | 12:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Support Router Advertisement Daemon (radvd) for IPv6 https://review.openstack.org/101306 | 12:53 |
| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Pass newly created router to _update_router_gw_info https://review.openstack.org/101517 | 12:54 |
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| ihrachyshka | rkukura: under transaction? I think no, we don't want it to yield, even if implicit. What will it yield to? Can we guarantee that the thread that it will yield to won't lock on the same object already locked in one of the other threads | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: rpc: Specify serializer for notifier to convert context https://review.openstack.org/101459 | 12:56 |
| ihrachyshka | but... I may not get how those implicit yields work in SQL library | 12:56 |
| rkukura | ihrachyshka: I’m not positive, but have been led to believe that the current sqlachemy backends do not do this implicit yielding. I think that is the root cause of the transaction deadlocks | 12:56 |
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| ihrachyshka | rkukura: I guess the cause for all those failures is two threads with opened db transaction locked on the same object | 12:59 |
| ihrachyshka | if we avoid getting two threads running a db transaction at the same time, we avoid all those failures | 12:59 |
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| rkukura | ihrachyshka: If the sqlalchemy backend does not implicitly yield while waiting for a response, and that response is waiting for a row lock to be released, and some other green thread has the row locked, sqlalchemy not implicitly yielding causes deadlock because the other green thread with the row locked cannot make progress and release the lock. | 13:00 |
| rkukura | ihrachyshka: That’s why extra locking has been added around some transactions. | 13:01 |
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| ihrachyshka | if sqlalchemy switches threads, we're doomed | 13:01 |
| rkukura | We are doomed because sqlalchemy will not switch threads when it should. | 13:01 |
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| rkukura | If it could switch threads, the thread with the row locked would eventually release the lock. | 13:02 |
| ihrachyshka | rkukura: well... I consider those extra locks as quick hacks. Yes, they fix some unknown issues by serialising some suspicious transaction, but that doesn't solve the problem globally | 13:02 |
| enikanorov_ | locks around transactions look ugly to me... although it helps sometimes | 13:02 |
| rkukura | ihrachyshka: Agreed they are hacks | 13:02 |
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| rkukura | I’d rather we wrap transactions in loops that re-try when deadlocks are detected by the backend or when commits fail due to other commits changing things. This would avoid the need to even try to lock rows. | 13:03 |
| ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: cleaner now? http://logs.openstack.org/85/101485/2/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/a3eef79/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz?level=TRACE | 13:06 |
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| ihrachyshka | rkukura: those loop retries also look like hacks :) anyway, I think we should (re)start the discussion regarding those yields. maybe next meeting. | 13:09 |
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| enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: yes, that's how it normally looks | 13:38 |
| ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: good, then we may probably ask cores to give it a priority?.. | 13:38 |
| enikanorov_ | let me ask Oleg | 13:39 |
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| ihrachyshka | heh, found another db lock timeout instance. delete_floatingip() calling to delete_port() that notifies assuming it is the root method that created transaction. :| | 14:25 |
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| enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: yes, there are plenty of such places | 14:26 |
| ihrachyshka | I now think we need some generic way to postpone notifications till db transaction is indeed closed, like having session context manager __exit__ to run action items scheduled while inside transaction | 14:26 |
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| enikanorov_ | yep, that would be a good way. not sure about complexity of such solution though | 14:27 |
| ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: should be well thought out, but at least there should be no scope issues (we have context.session available from all methods called, and we have self from inside __exit__) | 14:28 |
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| enikanorov_ | nati_ueno: hey. I've added the ut as you suggested https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100903/ | 14:42 |
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| nati_ueno | enikanorov_: awesome! | 14:45 |
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| pcm_ | Anyone: I was wondering why I've seen "context.is_admin and context or context.elevated()" used instead of "context and (context.is_admin or context.elevated()" in if clauses/assignments. Can anyone enlighten me? | 15:19 |
| pcm_ | ^missing paren at end | 15:20 |
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| nlahouti | rkukura: ping | 15:32 |
| rkukura | nlahouti: hi | 15:32 |
| nlahouti | rkukura: Hi. have you had chance to take a look at the etherpad? | 15:33 |
| nlahouti | rkukura: for extension BP? | 15:33 |
| rkukura | nlahouti: not lately - been completely swamped | 15:34 |
| rkukura | nlahouti: will try to look today | 15:34 |
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| nlahouti | rkukura: thx. Just need to merge to a solution | 15:35 |
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| ekarlso | what's the command to put a port in admin state down ? | 16:57 |
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| nlahouti | karimb: If you are using devstack for installation it creates for you. | 17:10 |
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| karimb | nlahouti, actually figured out it s created from the conf files by neutron-openvswitch-agent on the compute nodes | 17:10 |
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| suresh12 | Hi folks, have a 2 node icehouse install with centos6.5/icehouse. Everything works however network performance inside vm is absymal. Download speeds do not exceed 20KB/s | 17:20 |
| suresh12 | Tried with settings such as ovs_use_veth /True but still no luck | 17:20 |
| suresh12 | Any suggestions appreciated. | 17:20 |
| karimb | suresh12, maybe the mtu on the vm? | 17:23 |
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| suresh12 | mtu on the vm is 1500. | 17:24 |
| suresh12 | Should that be lower? | 17:24 |
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| karimb | if using gre, i believe that yes | 17:25 |
| * karimb checking | 17:25 | |
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| karimb | suresh12, problem solved with that ? | 17:28 |
| suresh12 | how much should it be? | 17:29 |
| suresh12 | 1400 or something? | 17:29 |
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| suresh12 | karim -- that was on the money. Made all the difference. Is this then best applied via dhcp_options in neutron? | 17:37 |
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| NobodyCam | morning all | 17:55 |
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| NobodyCam | I have a question. I have a port created with a incorrect host_id I can issue a port-update with the host name but the port still shows as down, is there a way to bring it up? | 17:57 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: ping | 19:21 |
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| ihrachyshka | mestery: hey. some patches from oslo.messaging port failed to auto merge yesterday, so please resend them to gate | 19:44 |
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| ihrachyshka | mestery: also an issue with notifier was revealed by enikanorov, should be fixed with https://review.openstack.org/101485 | 19:45 |
| ihrachyshka | mestery: introduced by oslo.messaging port | 19:45 |
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| mestery | ihrachyshka: Nice, thanks sir! | 19:51 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka: I'm stuck in an airport doing reviews and cherry-picks to stable. | 19:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove __init__ method from TunnelCallback mixin https://review.openstack.org/101121 | 19:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS new object model logging no-op driver https://review.openstack.org/101084 | 19:58 |
| ihrachyshka | markmcclain: sorry to bother you, but it seems I just rewrote your Workflow+1's by recent oslo.messaging update for patches, haven't noticed that you've just pushed some patches to gate :| | 20:00 |
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| markmcclain | what were you changing? | 20:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS new object model logging no-op driver https://review.openstack.org/101084 | 20:02 |
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| ihrachyshka | markmcclain: there were some minor rebase issues, but upload was intended for the last patch which updates neutron.conf with new oslo.messaging values | 20:02 |
| markmcclain | ok… I'll run though the series again | 20:03 |
| markmcclain | mestery: ^^^ | 20:03 |
| mestery | markmcclain: :) | 20:03 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka: Thanks for all your work on this series, excellent work! | 20:03 |
| ihrachyshka | thanks, I will try to be more cautious next time :) | 20:03 |
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| markmcclain | mestery: should ahve known you knew this :) | 20:04 |
| mestery | markmcclain: :P | 20:04 |
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| otherwiseguy | So on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101039/ I've hit SSH start_client EOFError failures twice when trying to verify. Is this a fairly common thing still? It's a one-line ovs-specific patch, so I'm assuming I'm not breaking anything. Should I just keep reverifying? | 20:11 |
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| otherwiseguy | mestery: ^ | 20:12 |
| mestery | otherwiseguy: Check the logs, the VM console should be there, is it booted all the way? | 20:12 |
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| mestery | otherwiseguy: the cases I;ve seen of this it's not booted all the way | 20:12 |
| mestery | thus you can't ping it | 20:12 |
| * mestery goes to look | 20:12 | |
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| mestery | otherwiseguy: This isn't an "ssh timeout" issue, see here: http://logs.openstack.org/39/101039/3/check/check-grenade-dsvm-neutron/1b188db/console.html | 20:13 |
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| mestery | That's for the grenade job. | 20:14 |
| mestery | Looks like a transient issue. | 20:14 |
| mestery | markmcclain: ^^^^ | 20:14 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Is that the one we should file an infra bug for? | 20:14 |
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| otherwiseguy | mestery: was looking at http://logs.openstack.org/39/101039/3/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-2/c035243/console.html Looks like a server: status: active response, then SSH failing to establish multiple times. | 20:15 |
| mestery | otherwiseguy: I see it now, was looking at the wrong failure. | 20:15 |
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| mestery | otherwiseguy: This is indeed an "ssh timeout" issue, can you file a bug for this and reference these logs? We closed all the other ones since they went away, this is the first occurance of it someone has pointed me at in 2 weeks. | 20:17 |
| mestery | otherwiseguy: Sound ok? | 20:17 |
| otherwiseguy | Just didn't know if I was "lucky" and hit something weird/transient twice in a row that everyone was occasionally getting or what, especially since my change should be vpnaas-specific. | 20:17 |
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| otherwiseguy | Yeah, I saw this which looked similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1248757 error-wise. | 20:18 |
| otherwiseguy | http://paste.openstack.org/show/50561/ | 20:18 |
| mestery | otherwiseguy: Maybe open a new one and we can triage from there. I'm stuck in DTW, need to go and grab some food before hopefully making a third attempt in 2 days to get home to MSP. | 20:19 |
| mestery | otherwiseguy: Wish me luck. :) | 20:19 |
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| otherwiseguy | Yikes. Good luck. :) | 20:19 |
| otherwiseguy | thanks. | 20:19 |
| mestery | thank you! | 20:20 |
| * mestery loves the passing indoor monorail train in DTW terminal A. | 20:20 | |
| mestery | It's soothing, almost cathartic. | 20:20 |
| * mestery may be going crazy. | 20:20 | |
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| anteaya | if someone wants to update: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints | 20:36 |
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| anteaya | I'm sure ttx would appreciate it | 20:37 |
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| dougwig | anteaya: on it | 20:47 |
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| dougwig | done | 20:49 |
| anteaya | dougwig: thanks | 20:49 |
| anteaya | you seem a helpful chap | 20:50 |
| anteaya | glad to have you onboard | 20:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sayaji Patil proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Changing the poll_duration parameter type to int https://review.openstack.org/101652 | 21:01 |
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| shivharis | emagana: ping | 21:10 |
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| Sukhdev | salv-orlando: Ping | 21:13 |
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| zzelle | rkukura, hi | 21:21 |
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| rkukura | zzelle: hi | 21:21 |
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| zzelle | rkukura, kyle proposes you look at https://review.openstack.org/99356 which proposes the reuse mechanism in the dhcp agent, if you could give your feedback ? | 21:23 |
| rkukura | zzelle: I have not had time to look at this. | 21:24 |
| zzelle | rkukura, no problem | 21:24 |
| rkukura | I’ll try to, but don’t want to make promises I can’t keep. | 21:25 |
| zzelle | rkukura, if u have time could you also look at https://review.openstack.org/99356 which is quite the same proposal for l3 agent ... but i have the feeling the proposal design is not an improvement ... | 21:25 |
| rkukura | zzelle: I’m not seeing how I’m going to have time for anything before mid July :( | 21:26 |
| zzelle | rkukura, outch, seems like a long todolist :s | 21:27 |
| zzelle | rkukura, one final (small !) question about type_vlan/flat ... | 21:28 |
| rkukura | zzelle: small questions are good | 21:28 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: pong | 21:28 |
| zzelle | you had the TODO: Validate that each physical_network name is neither empty nor too long. | 21:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS new object model logging no-op driver https://review.openstack.org/101084 | 21:29 |
| zzelle | rkukura, am i wrong how such check must done on the OVS/modular L2 agent instead of the ML2 plugin ? | 21:29 |
| zzelle | s/how/or/ | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: trying to verify the updated fix for the neutron patch | 21:30 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: now i just get this in the ovs agent log… http://logs.openstack.org/47/101447/3/experimental-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/a0f4649/logs/overcloud-NovaCompute0-veoyg6zjvdbv_logs/neutron-openvswitch-agent.txt.gz | 21:30 |
| zzelle | rkukura, indeed type driver only uses physnet aliases | 21:30 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: and i’m not sure what would cause that | 21:33 |
| rkukura | zzelle: I think this TODO was to make sure the name fit in: physical_network = sa.Column(sa.String(64), nullable=False, primary_key=True) | 21:33 |
| zzelle | rkukura, ok | 21:33 |
| rkukura | zzelle: That’s a server-side check. I don’t think the agent would care about the lenght of the names, but maybe about the names of the bridges they map to. | 21:33 |
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| zzelle | currently it seems there is no bridge name length check ... i was about to add it when i see your comment ... so i check the TODO is not linked | 21:35 |
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| rkukura | zzelle: Checking the length of the bridge name in the agent makes sense. | 21:36 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: looks like a config issue; the tarball for the node has /etc in it | 21:36 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: ok. I’m in a meeting atm so I just launched another check. If it fails again with the same error I will look into it | 21:37 |
| zzelle | rkukura, we already add (newbie) troubles ... if OVS bridge names are too long, the trouble is difficult to identify | 21:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carlino proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add test cases for plugins/ml2/plugin.py https://review.openstack.org/99129 | 21:38 |
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| lifeless | kevinbenton: neutron.conf and the ovs plugin conf look ok to me. | 21:39 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: anything emtpy values? i think that’s the error if a boolean is an empty string | 21:39 |
| lifeless | just | 21:40 |
| lifeless | bridge_mappings = | 21:40 |
| lifeless | network_vlan_ranges = | 21:40 |
| lifeless | which aren't booleans | 21:40 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: check out commit e423126965fb79d35f5f2281974cee6a216af8d4 | 21:41 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, i neutron? | 21:42 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, i think there is a bug where this will run a node out or space because of mkdtmp ... long long term | 21:44 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless anythin specific i should be looking at there instead of that they're going with mkdtmp magic | 21:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sayaji Patil proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Changing the poll_duration parameter type to int https://review.openstack.org/101652 | 21:48 |
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| lifeless | morganfainberg: just amused that the (works but has a bad failure mode) default in the keystone middleware was used as justification to *add* a bug into Neutron | 21:55 |
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| lifeless | morganfainberg: have you considered using the pid as a key? e.g. /var/run/$pid/signing-dir ? | 21:56 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, or we could just cleanup the tmpdir it makes ;) | 21:56 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, (my preference) | 21:57 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: or both :) | 21:57 |
| morganfainberg | hehe | 21:57 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: using pid would get you one signing dir per process rather than one per thread | 21:57 |
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| chuckC | sc68cal: ping | 21:57 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, true, we were having some issues with racing even then i think | 21:58 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, but those should be solved. | 21:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Pass 'top' to remove_rule so that rule matching succeeds https://review.openstack.org/101039 | 22:23 |
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| zzelle | kevinbenton, hi | 22:29 |
| kevinbenton | zzelle: hey, what’s up? | 22:30 |
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| zzelle | kevinbenton, could you have a look to https://review.openstack.org/76685 ? It was updated to integrate your modification to hash veth name when bridge name are too long | 22:32 |
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| kevinbenton | zzelle: name shortening stuff looks good. | 22:37 |
| zzelle | kevinbenton, ouf :) | 22:38 |
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| kevinbenton | zzelle: I think I had brought up on a previous version detecting patch port capabilities rather than making it configurable | 22:39 |
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| kevinbenton | zzelle: is that too painful to do in this patch? | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | zzelle: maybe a follow-up patch... | 22:39 |
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| zzelle | kevinbenton, in previous patchsets the capability was checked during startup ... | 22:42 |
| zzelle | kevinbenton, but https://review.openstack.org/96525 removed runtime checks for vxlan and after discussion with kyle, it seems better to prefer static config | 22:42 |
| zzelle | kevinbenton, moreover most deployments now support patch ports | 22:43 |
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| zzelle | (default config) | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | zzelle: well the vxlan one makes sense because that’s big behavior change | 22:45 |
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| kevinbenton | zzelle: but this doesn’t really change the end result with regards to connectivity | 22:45 |
| kevinbenton | zzelle: it’s just an optimization, right? | 22:45 |
| zzelle | kevinbenton, indeed | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | zzelle: i wouldn’t worry about it in this patch though if Kyle was leaning away from detection | 22:46 |
| zzelle | kevinbenton, it increases network performance on "old" kernels and reduces sudo latency ! | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | zzelle: right, it sounds like there is no reason someone would disable it if their kernel supports it | 22:47 |
| kevinbenton | zzelle: and no reason they would enable it if their kernel doesn’t | 22:47 |
| zzelle | kevinbenton, if kernel does not support patch ports you change multiple default values | 22:47 |
| zzelle | kevinbenton, initially the improvement was removing veth mtu | 22:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Shiv Haris proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Brocade ml2 mechanism needs to support versions greater than 4.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/101666 | 22:49 |
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| zzelle | mestery, hi ! Is it possible to perform some recheck opendaylight" ? | 22:52 |
| mestery | zzelle: Unfourtanetly not, the ODL team is working to enable that functionality. | 22:52 |
| mestery | zzelle: I can manually do it for you, what's the change ID you want me to recheck? | 22:52 |
| zzelle | mestery, bad and great :), https://review.openstack.org/101467 | 22:53 |
| mestery | zzelle: Done, it's next in the queue, probably 10-20 minutes out. | 22:54 |
| * mestery makes a note to bug the ODL team about adding "recheck" functionality. | 22:54 | |
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| zzelle | mestery, thanks | 22:55 |
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| mestery | zzelle: Anytime! | 22:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/101422 | 23:12 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: that patch failed again | 23:18 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: when i look at some of the other stuff though, it seems like there were other problems | 23:19 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: e.g. the mountall output | 23:19 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: python /usr/local/bin/neutron-openvswitch-agent --config-file | 23:19 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: whoops. http://logs.openstack.org/47/101447/3/experimental-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/735c22e/logs/overcloud-NovaCompute0-borzdk56h65k_logs/mountall.txt.gz | 23:19 |
| lifeless | http://logs.openstack.org/47/101447/3/experimental-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/735c22e/logs/overcloud-NovaCompute0-borzdk56h65k_logs/os-collect-config.txt.gz is the key config driving script | 23:21 |
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| lifeless | its where heat is polled | 23:21 |
| kevinbenton | ok, so this failure isn’t related to my patch is it? | 23:23 |
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| lifeless | kevinbenton: honestly, I don't know - I've got a nasty gastro thing happening | 23:24 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: so I'm like 5% here, and its saturday - family time | 23:25 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Removed create_rpc_dispatcher methods https://review.openstack.org/98811 | 23:25 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: oh sorry. i didn’t realize you were into the weekend yet. Still friday here. :-) | 23:25 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: uhm, dprince, or spamaps, might be good folk to ping for help | 23:25 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: you're not to know who lives in the future and who doesn't :) | 23:25 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: if only the stock market were open on saturdays I could ask for tips ;-) | 23:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Removed 'rpc' and 'notifier' incubator modules https://review.openstack.org/98812 | 23:27 |
| * SpamapS lives quite clearly in the past | 23:28 | |
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