Friday, 2014-07-18

openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Reorganize migrations after DB 'healing'  https://review.openstack.org/10196300:01
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trinathsHi Reviewers. Kindly please review my neutron spec on FWaaS plugin at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105663/. your review helps me a lot to improve the spec and code base.00:53
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openstackgerritShiv Haris proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: L3 Router service plugin to provide hardware based routing  https://review.openstack.org/10525001:10
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: ping01:18
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Correct the bash completion of CLI  https://review.openstack.org/10722601:23
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openstackgerritLi Ma proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Race condition of L3-agent to add/remove routers  https://review.openstack.org/7323401:59
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circ-user-QNfmUAre there any core reviewers around looking for something to review? I have patch with 2 +1's just waiting for a core reviewer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103820/02:01
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openstackgerritLi Ma proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Race condition of L3-agent to add/remove routers  https://review.openstack.org/7323402:42
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openstackgerritBaohua Yang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add singleton support for class  https://review.openstack.org/10760503:14
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openstackgerritXu Han Peng proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Specification for Dnsmasq DHCPv6  https://review.openstack.org/10241103:33
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Encapsulate some port properties in the PortContext  https://review.openstack.org/10788003:41
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix DVR regression for ofagent  https://review.openstack.org/10788403:53
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yamamotowhat's the right tag for dvr bugs?03:56
kevinbentonyamamoto: critical ;-)03:58
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yamamotoi'm not in a position to decide importance :-)03:59
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Encapsulate some port properties in the PortContext  https://review.openstack.org/10788004:49
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 additions to support DVR  https://review.openstack.org/10239804:50
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support Router Advertisement Daemon (radvd) for IPv6  https://review.openstack.org/10264804:58
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trinathsHi Reviewers. Kindly please review my neutron spec on FWaaS plugin at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105663/. your review helps me a lot to improve the spec and code base.05:10
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix DVR regression for ofagent  https://review.openstack.org/10788405:53
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openstackgerritvikas proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Check for VPN Objects when deleting interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/9773405:59
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10597706:05
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trinathsHi Reviewers. Kindly please review my neutron spec on FWaaS plugin at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105663/. your review helps me a lot to improve the spec and code base.06:19
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openstackgerritSridar Kandaswamy proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Specification for FWaaS changes for DVR  https://review.openstack.org/10622506:31
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openstackgerritKoteswara Rao Kelam proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: firewall policy update for a rule is not working.  https://review.openstack.org/10413206:45
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openstackgerritvikas proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Check for VPN Objects when deleting interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/9773407:43
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add L3 Scheduler Changes for Distributed Routers  https://review.openstack.org/8969407:48
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trinathsHi Reviewers. Kindly please review my neutron spec on FWaaS plugin at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105663/. your review helps me a lot to improve the spec and code base.07:51
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openstackgerritPaddu Krishnan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: VDP Support in OVS Neutron Agent and Type Driver for Network Overlays  https://review.openstack.org/10556308:24
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement ModelsMigrationsSync test from oslo.db  https://review.openstack.org/7652008:37
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack/neutron: nothing  https://review.openstack.org/10793208:56
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Some tests  https://review.openstack.org/7652009:06
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron-specs: ML2 mechanism driver for Cisco Nexus1000V  https://review.openstack.org/10327609:23
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Some tests  https://review.openstack.org/7652009:52
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Some tests  https://review.openstack.org/7652010:06
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openstackgerritIlya Shakhat proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Initialize MeteringAgent object correctly  https://review.openstack.org/10795510:15
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anteayajlibosva: hello, I don't tend to be in the #openstack channel too much, how can I help you?10:23
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10657010:38
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Some tests  https://review.openstack.org/7652010:39
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jlibosvaanteaya: hi, I wanted to ask if you can help me with getting cores to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107229/ - because of old alembic currently some 3rd party CI jobs are failing.10:59
jlibosvaanteaya: Maru recommended me to contact you :)10:59
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Some tests  https://review.openstack.org/7652011:10
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openstackgerritKoteswara Rao Kelam proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: firewall policy update for a rule is not working.  https://review.openstack.org/10413211:21
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anteayajlibosva: can you read the backscroll in -infra around that patch? I haven't yet but clarkb is of a differing opinion11:26
anteayajlibosva: I think it would help if you were aware of what that is11:27
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jlibosvaanteaya: sorry, what should I read? What is backscroll?11:28
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anteayahttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2014-07-17.log timestamp: 2014-07-17T16:19:2211:31
jlibosvaanteaya: aha, thanks11:32
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anteayabackscroll is/are irc conversations that took place in the past11:32
anteayanp11:32
openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Some tests  https://review.openstack.org/7652011:38
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openstackgerritIlya Shakhat proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Initialize RpcProxy objects correctly  https://review.openstack.org/10795512:00
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Some tests  https://review.openstack.org/7652012:18
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Test  https://review.openstack.org/10799212:33
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ZZelle_salv-orlando, hi13:01
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salv-orlandoHi ZZelle_ how can I help you?13:05
ZZelle_salv-orlando, i read your comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71904/21/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/helpers.py13:06
ZZelle_salv-orlando, i am trying to understand the mysql possible trouble13:06
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for converting from ovs-vsctl calls to OVSDB  https://review.openstack.org/10618313:06
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salv-orlandoZZelle_: so you are assuming that if some other transaction allocates a vlan the query will tell you by matching 0 records13:09
salv-orlandowhich is fine in most cases, but not when transactions are READ COMMITTED13:09
salv-orlandothis is because within the transaction you will see the state of the database as it was before the transaction started13:09
salv-orlandoso you will not see that another concurrent transaction has updated that record13:10
salv-orlandosorry that applies to both READ COMMITTED and REPEATABLE READ (I commented on REPEATABLE only)13:10
salv-orlandoZZelle_: I am aware I am rubbish at speaking my mind… was I clear enough?13:11
ZZelle_salv-orlando, now it's clearer :)13:12
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salv-orlandoZZelle_: the follow up question is… does it make sense?13:12
ZZelle_salv-orlando, so i need to create a (sub)transaction for select and an other one for the update to have a valid count13:12
salv-orlandoZZelle_: yes, but in that case you will be again not sure if somebody has allocated that correctly is that right?13:13
salv-orlandoI mean if you split the transaction in two - you don’t know which thread did that13:13
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trinathsHi Reviewers. Kindly please review my neutron spec on FWaaS plugin at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105663/. your review helps me a lot to improve the spec and code base.13:14
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ZZelle_salv-orlando, we do because the update does UPDATE SET allocated=true WHERE allocated=false AND (segment criterias)13:14
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salv-orlandoZZelle_: I mean if in the first transaction you do the select and then in the second the update you still are not sure whether the update was done by somebody else, will you?13:14
salv-orlandoZZelle_: ok I see13:14
ZZelle_i someone else allocated it the first condition is no more valid13:14
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JoeHazzersis there currently any way to aggregate agents?13:15
ZZelle_i will try to test the usage directly with mysql cli to check behavior13:15
salv-orlandoZZelle_: me ask some followup questions so we’ll agree on a solution13:15
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salv-orlandoZZelle_: (and get this way to a quicker approval)13:16
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ZZelle_salv-orlando, ok13:16
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ZZelle_salv-orlando, because i will need _LW for the log.warning, could you have a look to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107137?13:18
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salv-orlandoZZelle_: sure I remember an email from oslo people in regard to how to do that. Let me first find that, ensure your patch is in accordance with the guidelines and then I’ll send it through the gate (of hell)13:20
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ZZelle_salv-orlando, the guideline is here: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/usage.html13:22
salv-orlandoZZelle_: so about the queries… you are suggesting to separate the transactions. So you will first have a query which fetches an available allocation. Then, since there is no enclosing transaction, the update will fail if somebody has updated the record in the meanwhile making it allocated.13:22
salv-orlandoLet’s assume the update fails because returns 0 record updated.13:22
salv-orlandoyou will go back to the original query and fetch the next record and so on.13:23
salv-orlandountil either it succeeds or you run out of attempts13:24
ZZelle_salv-orlando, exactly13:24
ZZelle_salv-orlando, that's why i must LOG and raises an error13:24
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salv-orlandoraise when you run out of attempts? I think logging is ok - not sure you need to raise as well for how you structured the code13:25
salv-orlandoregarding your approach the only question I have, and I don’t know if you can answer that, is whether sqlalchemy prefetches db records or not.13:26
ZZelle_if i do not raise an error, the type driver will assume there is no network available13:26
salv-orlandoI *think* it does not unless you ask it to do so13:26
salv-orlandobut I’m not sure13:26
salv-orlandoZZelle_:  good point, so yes, let’s raise13:26
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ZZelle_salv-orlando, it is based on mike bayer  remarks13:28
ZZelle_let me find the wiki page13:28
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ZZelle_salv-orlando, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Openstack_and_SQLAlchemy#Pessimistic_Locking_-_SELECT_FOR_UPDATE13:29
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salv-orlandoZZelle_: yup… I said indeed that I appreciated your effort to remove a select for update.13:30
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salv-orlandoI am 20% common sense 20% craziness and 60% pedantry, so please be patient ;)13:31
salv-orlandoso I’ve done a simple experiment and I think there is no prefetch in sqlalchemy queries13:31
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salv-orlandoI think the properties of transaction serialization will ensure your code is safe13:32
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salv-orlandostill pedant me says that serialization does not work as it should ideally on active/active clusters, such as galera13:33
salv-orlandobut support for them is currently completely screwed by lock for updates13:33
salv-orlandoso your code is definetely better. Summarizing, let’s go for this approach.13:34
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ZZelle_salv-orlando, could you add a comment in the change just to trace our  discussion?13:38
salv-orlandoZZelle_: ah you’re asking for too much now!!!!13:38
salv-orlandojk doing that now13:38
ZZelle_thanks!13:38
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ZZelle_salv-orlando, one last question, if we run out of attempts, we should raise a 500 error? perhaps 503 is better?13:47
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salv-orlandoZZelle_: I approved your change for _LE, _LW, etc. I hope people will not complain because it did not have a bug report ;)13:51
ZZelle_:)13:52
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akamyshnikovasalv-orlando, could you take a look at this change https://review.openstack.org/106725 ?14:06
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salv-orlandoakamyshnikova: quick question - this migration if run as it is today, will trigger an error. Is that correct?14:08
akamyshnikovayes14:09
akamyshnikovasalv-orlando, yes it fails14:09
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salv-orlandoakamyshnikova: cool. That has to be done as you did it then. Approving.14:12
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akamyshnikovasalv-orlando, thanks!14:12
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NSX: fix validation logic on network gateway connect  https://review.openstack.org/10618414:13
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Test  https://review.openstack.org/10799214:19
openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2: Update a comment after the recent bind_port change  https://review.openstack.org/10802614:19
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openstackgerritEvgeny Fedoruk proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: LBaaS TLS termination capability specification  https://review.openstack.org/9864014:38
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rkukurayamamoto: Thanks for reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106185/! Can you take a look at my responses to your comments when you get a chance?14:51
yamamotorkukura: thank you for detailed explanation.  i'm now reading them.14:51
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yamamotorkukura: i'm slow english reader14:54
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rkukurayamamoto: No rush. Just want to make sure any issues can be resolved before Sunday’s SAD.14:55
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tristanCHello folks, can someone please help me diagnose this test failure (test_schedule_pool_with_down_agent) that happen on this stable/hanava security fix: http://logs.openstack.org/31/107731/3/check/gate-neutron-python26/a771946/console.html#_2014-07-17_23_04_57_80114:56
tristanCIt says "ERROR [neutron.api.extensions] Extension path 'unit/extensions' doesn't exist!"14:57
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tristanCI don't understand, their is a directory ./neutron/tests/unit/extensions and tests are running fine on my local devstack15:00
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openstackgerritRobert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Group Policy: Implicit Policy Driver  https://review.openstack.org/10472715:27
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openstackgerritRobert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Group Policy: Resource Mapping Driver  https://review.openstack.org/10527215:33
openstackgerritMarios Andreou proposed a change to openstack/neutron: WIP - Service Insertion - changes required for VPNaaS  https://review.openstack.org/10804915:33
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yamamotorkukura: i commented on the review15:46
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yamamotocan anyone review ofagent specs?  they are short.  https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-specs+owner:yamamoto,n,z15:50
rkukurayamamoto: Thanks. I took  a quick glance, and plan to respond and update the spec. But I’d like to review some other specs first. Are you going to be available to re-review between now Sunday?15:50
rkukurayamamoto: I’ll put those on my list to review, but don’t want to discourage others from reviewing/approving them if they get to them first.15:52
yamamotorkukura: i'm not sure.  but will try.  usually sat and sun are taken by my family. :-)15:52
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yamamotorkukura: thank you15:52
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rkukurayamamoto: What time zone are you?15:53
yamamotorkukura: JST  (UTC+9)15:53
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yamamotoit's 1am here15:54
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rkukurayamamoto: I’ll try to answer your questions now15:55
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lukegoI’d be most grateful if a core dev could take a look at the Snabb mech driver spec which I hope is now ready for merge into Juno. The Nova side is approved for Juno now (VIF_VHOSTUSER). https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95707/15:57
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add L3 Scheduler Changes for Distributed Routers  https://review.openstack.org/8969416:02
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 additions to support DVR  https://review.openstack.org/10239816:02
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trinathsHi Reviewers, Please help me with your review for my Neutron Spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105663/.17:12
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openstackgerritHareesh Puthalath proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Configuration agent for Cisco devices  https://review.openstack.org/10359317:19
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_cjones_Any neutron folks around for a quick developer question?17:25
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trinathsHi Reviewers, Please help me with your review for my Neutron Spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105663/.17:38
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armaxrkukura: ping17:43
gangilHi http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/l3_workflow.html In the documention why is the command for showing all the internal router interfaces left blank?17:43
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armaxrkukura: you said you were in town on Monday and suggested we’d meet, but then we didn’t agree on a time and a place :)17:43
armaxrkukura: I forgot to follow up17:44
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aleksandr_nullHi guys!17:44
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rkukuraarmax: I’m racing to get a review done before driving my wife to the airport. I’ll be back online after that, in about 2 hours.17:47
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armaxrkukura: no worries17:50
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openstackgerritAbhishek Raut proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: State synchronization for Cisco N1KV plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10435618:12
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement migration of legacy routers to distributed  https://review.openstack.org/10585518:34
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openstackgerritSayaji Patil proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Changes to remove the use of mapping tables from Nuage plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10561118:47
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement migration of legacy routers to distributed  https://review.openstack.org/10585518:49
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add partial specs support in ML2 for vlan provider networks  https://review.openstack.org/7190418:59
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openstackgerritnlahouti proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Support for extensions in ML2 Mechanism Drivers  https://review.openstack.org/8920819:13
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add partial specs support in ML2 for vlan provider networks  https://review.openstack.org/7190419:27
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make ML2 ensure_dvr_port_binding more robust  https://review.openstack.org/10473120:27
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openstackgerritSylvain Afchain proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add L3 VRRP HA base classes  https://review.openstack.org/6455320:32
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Allow to import _LC, _LE, _LI and _LW functions directly  https://review.openstack.org/10713720:47
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aleksandr_nullGuys, I've updated https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/decentralized-snat a little bit20:49
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: are you arround?20:50
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: hi20:50
mlavallehow are you doing?20:50
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: great, finally!20:51
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: we were playing IRC tag :-)20:51
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: so i got a bit distracted with something else, so i could not get into the details of the links you sent20:51
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: but i will look at them in the next couple of hours or so20:51
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: in the meanwhile, wanted to check with you on a couple of things20:52
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: you have the link to the LBaaS WIP patch that you put?20:52
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: ok….. I can help you over the next 3 or 4 hours…. If you want I can start modifying the rest client20:52
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: oh sure, if you want to take a stab at it that will be great20:53
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: just want to make sure that we have this covered by monday20:53
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: ok, I am going to start with that now. I am going to read the blueprint and the patchset you sent me yesterday….. Is there enough information there to figure out what the rest api looks like?20:54
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: so i am going to be working to try to make sure we get there20:54
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: yes absolutely20:55
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: but i am available as well20:55
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: ok, let's see how much progress we achieve over the next 3 or 4 hours20:55
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: sure20:55
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: you have the link to the LBaaS tempest API patch?20:56
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: i can dig it up, but it will save me the trouble20:56
* mlavalle getting the LbaaS patchset20:56
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: thanks!20:57
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: this is for the rest clients in tempest, both JSON and XML: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106089/20:58
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: sweet20:58
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: the other thing i wanted to check was the scenario test20:58
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: wanted to started thinking about that in parallel as well20:59
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: does VPN have a corresponding one as well?20:59
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: i think there was one for fwaas20:59
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* mlavalle digging the LBaaS api test script… will get to the questions in a few minutes21:00
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: LBaaS api test script: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106462/21:02
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: cool, thanks21:03
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: i think as far as scenario tests are concerned we have only one for network_basic_ops, so perhaps its a bit premature for adding those for group policy?21:04
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: Last week I helped sdmonov to put together this scenario test for fwaas and vpnaas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106473/21:04
openstackgerritRajeev Grover proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Modify L3 Agent for Distributed Routers  https://review.openstack.org/8941321:05
mlavalleI just tested it in my devstack and works fine21:05
HenryGmarun: Hi. Can you take a look at my first attempt at functional tests for radvd? https://review.openstack.org/10264821:05
openstackgerritAaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NSX: router-interface-attach router ports don't need port_security_enabled  https://review.openstack.org/10813421:07
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: do you need a scenario test by this coming Monday? If you can get away with is, I would recommend just do a api test. scenario tests require that the neutron python client support the new abstractions / operations in the api21:07
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: ah21:08
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: sure i think API tests should be good then21:09
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: but just to confirm, do we have scenario tests for neutron apart from the basic opts?21:09
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: yes, we have a LBaaS (v1)21:10
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: ah ok21:11
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: i did not find those though21:11
SumitNaiksatammlavalle:  sorry21:12
SumitNaiksatammlavalle:  found it, this one, right: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/scenario/test_load_balancer_basic.py21:12
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: ?21:12
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: was not looking carefullt21:12
SumitNaiksatam*carefully21:13
mlavalleyeah, that's it21:13
ZZellearmax, hi21:13
SumitNaiksatammlavalle:  so just to confirm, for us to be able to put the scneario tests in, we would need the python client to have been merged for group policy?21:13
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armaxZZelle: hi21:13
ZZellearmax, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104731/6/neutron/db/sqlalchemyutils.py21:14
armaxZZelle: k21:14
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: we do have WIP patches for the python client as well21:14
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: well you don't need it merged. We can work with a WIP version21:14
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: ah ok21:14
ZZellearmax, i understood the usecase (i am cedric), i have quite the same need and i was wondering if it will not be better to provide the try/except structure as a context?21:15
armaxZZelle: better how?21:16
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ZZellebetter for reuse21:16
nlahoutienikanorov: ping21:17
armaxZZelle: ?21:18
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: okay so the ususal process is to get the API tests sorted out first and then attempt the scenario tests, right?21:18
ZZellearmax, i need to use the same structure but with different effects on insert failure21:18
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armaxZZelle: do you have a snippet of code I can look at?21:19
enikanorov_nlahouti: pong21:19
shivharisSukhdev: ping21:19
nlahoutienikanorov): hi we just replied to your comments on the BP21:20
enikanorov_nlahouti: ok, i'll take a look21:20
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nlahoutithx a lot. We need this to make the J-2 deadline.21:20
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: no. I was recommending to focus on the api beacuase I was assuming you didn't have the neutron client extended yet…… but if you already have the neutron client extended, you can start with the scenario test…. in fact, it is more useful. All I am saying is you want to minimize risk between now and Monday. If you feel comfortable you can get a scenario test by Monday, by all means got for it21:21
ZZellearmax, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71904/23/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/helpers.py21:21
ZZellearmax, not really a snippet21:21
ZZellearmax, at the end of the first method21:21
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: ah ok, i would defintiely want to minimize the risk21:22
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: and start with the path of least resistance21:22
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: so would want to follow whatever suggestion you have21:23
armaxZZelle: so what about reus eand my change? I struggle to see the connection21:23
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: what's the status of your extensions to the Neutron python client?21:23
armaxZZelle: you mean allocate_fully_specified_segment right?21:23
ZZellearmax, yep21:23
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: i have personally not tested them, but the submitter claimed they work, though i definitely see that as an additional variable in the mix21:24
ZZellearmax, at least safe_insert should return true/false in case of success?21:24
armaxso how do you plan on reausing my code? the two methods look drastically different21:24
armaxZZelle: unless you’re referring to just lines 77/8821:25
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: this is the python client patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104013/21:25
ZZellearmax, exactly21:25
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: ok, give me 30 to 45 minutes to understand the api….. based on that I will be able to gauge how difficult it will be to add it to the tempest rest clients…. after that we can make a decison…. ok?21:25
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: sweet21:25
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: thanks so much21:25
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: meanwhile i will step out for lunch as well21:26
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: will ping you when i am back21:26
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: all this code (api, plugin, pyhton client) is something that we cn deploy to a devstack and have it work?21:26
openstackgerritnlahouti proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Support for Extensions in ML2  https://review.openstack.org/8920821:26
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: i have not tested with the python client21:26
mlavallebut other than that, the aswner is yes?21:27
armaxum, if the block 77-88 raises the whole block 51-88 will rollback21:27
armaxyour update on line 63 included21:27
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armaxZZelle: this doesn’t look right21:27
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armaxZZelle: but I might be looking at this wrong21:28
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: to deploy for the end to tests, we would need to use the patch: https://review.openstack.org/10527221:28
ZZellearmax, it's not possible to succeed both21:28
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: thats the last patch in the series21:28
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: the series is about 8 patches deep21:28
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armaxZZelle: so perhaps these should be two separate blocks21:28
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shivharisSukhdev: ping21:29
mlavalleSumitNiksatam: how accurate / up to date is this document? https://docs.google.com/a/mlavalle.com/document/d/1b_ywmSTKYW4PBjhkXREPePRgVmz-Uwv_Bb-i7Jaqsu4/edit21:29
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armaxor move the insert prior to the update21:29
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armaxZZelle: I am confused, I’d need to look at this more closely but from the standpoint of the reuse of the safe insert21:30
armaxZZelle: either you use the context manager or you don’t it makes no difference21:30
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: all patches are referenced and explained here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy/Patches21:31
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: we are currently looking at the “EP, EPG, L2/3 Policy” series21:31
ZZellearmax, the idea is more to propose a context helper for insert, creating beginning a transaction and handling correctly session termination in case of success/integrity error21:32
armaxZZelle: so?21:32
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armaxZZelle: I still don’t understand what the context manager has to do with it21:33
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armaxZZelle: sorry I am slow on Fridays :)21:33
shivhariskevinbenton: hi21:34
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armaxZZelle: I mean, I could replace the explicit commit/rollback with the context manager, but that makes no difference whatsover21:35
armaxwhatsoever21:36
ZZellean example will be clearer: http://paste.openstack.org/show/87185/21:36
ZZelleok, forget about it21:37
armaxZZelle: why?21:37
kevinbentonshivharis: hey21:38
ZZellearmax, it's only a 6 lines context, not sure we need to crush our mind21:38
shivhariskevinbenton: howdy..21:38
armaxZZelle: exactly21:38
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shivhariskevinbenton: is 501 even allowed as a response to the API21:39
armaxZZelle: but I am trying to understand why the two are different21:39
armaxthat’s all21:39
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shivhariskevinbenton: this is wrt to the blueprint review for floating_ip support21:40
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ZZellearmax, safe_insert focuses on the insert where the pasted context is focused only on handling correctly transaction+DBDuplicateEntry21:40
armaxZZelle: if I do something, I want to learn in the process…I am not gonna do something just because I am told21:40
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armaxhow would you use the safe_insert with the pasted context?21:42
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openstackgerritHemanth Ravi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Implements: blueprint gbp-oc-nvsd-driver  https://review.openstack.org/10612821:42
armaxit almost looks like it’s either one or the other21:42
kevinbentonshivharis: do you have a link?21:42
kevinbentonshivharis: nevermind, i found it21:42
openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Refactoring the security_group_rules_for_devices call.  https://review.openstack.org/10452221:42
shivhariskevinbenton:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105250/21:42
kevinbentonshivharis: well some kind of response is necessary for those floating IP calls, what did you plan to do?21:43
ZZellearmax, 2s21:43
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shivhariskevinbenton: this operation will never be possible so 403 maybe?21:43
shivhariskevinbenton: 403 forbidden21:44
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shivhariskevinbenton: not sure what will be the side affect of this, i will have to explore the calling sequence21:44
kevinbentonshivharis: ok. i wasn’t concerned with the particular code. I was just saying you should outline at least that floating IP operations won’t be supported in the spec21:44
kevinbentonshivharis: you can leave the specific code up to the implementation review21:45
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nlahoutienikanorov_: did you get a chance  to review it?21:45
kevinbentonarmax: ping re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104731/5/neutron/db/sqlalchemyutils.py21:45
shivhariskevinbenton: ok i will update the blueprint with that info, any other suggestions?21:45
armaxkevinbenton: pong21:45
enikanorov_nlahouti: i'm looking into it21:45
kevinbentonshivharis: nope. that was it21:45
shivhariskevinbenton: thanks21:45
shivhariskevinbenton: ttyl, bye21:46
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kevinbentonarmax: for the exutils, you aren’t reraising so why do you care about preserving the context?21:46
nlahoutienikanorov_: really appreciate21:46
armaxkevinbenton: yup, I changed it21:46
armaxkevinbenton: I might have seen the same thing somewhere else though21:47
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kevinbentonarmax: yes, it suddently became standard practice to paste that everywhere an exception was caught and I’m not sure why :-)21:47
armaxkevinbenton: go figure :)21:48
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kevinbentonarmax: but for the context manager one, it will call rollback() on any exception21:48
kevinbentonarmax: which closes the started transaction21:48
kevinbentonarmax: IIRC21:48
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kevinbentonarmax: that’s why I had suggested it21:48
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armaxkevinbenton: you mean an exception on LOG.info?21:49
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ZZellearmax, it could become something like http://paste.openstack.org/show/8718721:49
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openstackgerritHemanth Ravi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Implements: blueprint gbp-oc-nvsd-driver  https://review.openstack.org/10815421:49
kevinbentonarmax: if something else triggers an exception in session.add()21:49
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kevinbentonarmax: that results in something that isn’t DBDuplicateEntry21:50
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armaxkevinbenton: that’s a good point, I thought I had checked that in a UT21:51
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kevinbentonarmax: but maybe there isn’t really any other exception that could occur that you would actually need to rollback on21:51
armaxkevinbenton: um…better safe than sorry I guess21:53
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armaxkevinbenton: but it’s possible to have an integrity violation on missed foreign key constraint21:53
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kevinbentonarmax: yeah, the contextmanager style just gives you the nice guaruntee that there is no escaping it without closing the transaction it started (either via a commit or rollback)21:54
armaxkevinbenton: that assumes that the code is somewhat buggy21:54
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armaxkevinbenton: so being less defensive here might help catch issues sooner21:54
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kevinbentonarmax: well the exception would still raise uncaught with the contextmanager21:55
armaxkevinbenton: right21:55
kevinbentonarmax: the transaction will just be cleared on the way out21:55
armaxkevinbenton: either way the code is gonna blow up21:55
kevinbentonarmax: yeah, the contrived difference would be if someone wrapped a safe_insert call in try: except: pass21:56
armaxkevinbenton: yuk21:57
kevinbentonarmax: so they get a foreign key failure, ignore it, and then their context has an extra session started21:57
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kevinbentonarmax: totally not a corner case :-)21:57
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armaxkevinbenton: I so loathe these kinds of try-except claues21:57
armaxclauses21:58
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armaxkevinbenton: but I am afraid you have a point there21:58
kevinbentonarmax: the downside to making a useful function like you are doing here is that people will use it in disgusting ways ;-)21:59
armaxkevinbenton: oh my…I am thinking of abandoning the change then21:59
armaxkevinbenton: the least I would do is to favor this kind of behavior ;)21:59
armaxkevinbenton: actually that makes perfect sense…this util method is dangerous I am going to drop it22:00
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armaxkevinbenton: I hadn’t considered the plethora of Neutron anti-patterns we live day-by-day22:01
armaxkevinbenton: try: except: pass …you should tweet that ;)22:01
openstackgerritShiv Haris proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: L3 Router service plugin to provide hardware based routing  https://review.openstack.org/10525022:01
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kevinbentonarmax: it’s the code version of keep calm and carry on22:02
kevinbentonarmax: don’t drop this patch!22:03
armaxkevinbenton: oh my that’s another one I despise ;)22:03
kevinbentonarmax: it’s useful22:03
armaxkevinbenton: I’ll tweak it, let’s take the conversation back on the review…22:03
armaxkevinbenton: frankly after this discussion I realized that this is actually wrong22:04
kevinbentonarmax: http://teespring.com/codecalm22:04
kevinbentonarmax: what’s wrong with it?22:04
kevinbentonarmax: this particular method or your approach in general?22:04
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armaxkevinbenton: well…the idea of having getters that create is plainly wrong22:05
kevinbentonarmax: but it’s an ensurer, not a getter22:06
armaxkevinbenton: whatever22:06
armaxkevinbenton: same difference22:06
armaxkevinbenton: :)22:06
kevinbentonarmax: what is the appropriate pattern for that case?22:07
armaxkevinbenton: it really depends on the circumstances22:07
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kevinbentonarmax: i suppose ensure_dvr_port_binding should just make sure it exists, not be the method to retrieve it22:08
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Fix DVR regression for ofagent  https://review.openstack.org/10788422:09
armaxkevinbenton: but attempting to insert a db object repetitively doesn’t sound right22:09
armaxkevinbenton: then it’s obvious that the potential contention comes with it22:09
armaxkevinbenton: which is what I was trying to address in the first place22:09
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armaxkevinbenton: so I think I’ll localize the fix rather than making it general22:10
armaxkevinbenton: is someone wants to generalize it, fine, but I don’t want to be that guy ;)22:10
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armaxkevinbenton: I guess the discussion can be pretty lengthy but once you inserted the object in the DB, you’re done..if the object disappear, then something is going on…seems like masking an issue22:12
openstackgerritStephen Wong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for service-base-and-insertion  https://review.openstack.org/9312822:12
armaxkevinbenton: but then again, it really depends on the circumstances22:12
kevinbentonarmax: this is to handle a race condition, right?22:12
kevinbentonarmax: where multiple locations might insert at the same time?22:13
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armaxkevinbenton: inserting (the same thing) at the same time22:14
armaxkevinbenton: my point is what are the circumstances that led you to this contention?22:15
armaxkevinbenton: eradicate the contention, if you can, and usually you can…22:15
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kevinbentonarmax: well it seems like you won’t be able to avoid a duplicate insert without the forbidden LOCK FOR UPDATE22:16
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armaxkevinbenton: these are orthogonal actually22:16
armaxkevinbenton: because the lock for update is a row-level locking on an existing resultset22:17
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armaxkevinbenton: the behavior depends on the DB and the transactionality level22:17
kevinbentonarmax: oh right22:18
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kevinbentonarmax: well some locking mechanism then to guaruntee nothing can insert after you tried to check for existince22:18
armaxkevinbenton: that’s the thing you don’t insert, you update, there’s a difference22:19
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kevinbentonarmax: how do you update if the record doesn’t exist?22:20
armaxthe result set is empty, afaik you lock nothing22:21
ZZellekevinbenton, there are some buggy code in neutron because SELECT FOR UPDATE has no effect if select returns nothing22:21
kevinbentonarmax: i don’t see how that eliminates the race. if you try to update and it doesn’t exist, you have to insert, right?22:22
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kevinbentonarmax, ZZelle: i’m not advocating using a particualr lock method. I was just saying one is required if we don’t have this safe_insert approach22:23
openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: New extension for version 2 of LBaaS API  https://review.openstack.org/10533122:23
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ZZellekevinbenton, the trouble is the pattern: select for update and update or insert22:24
openstackgerritStephen Wong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for service-base-and-insertion  https://review.openstack.org/9312822:25
kevinbentonZZelle: that pattern doesn’t prevent the race condition and there is no point in even updating if you are inserting exactly the same record as another caller would22:25
openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Plugin/DB additions for version 2 of LBaaS API  https://review.openstack.org/10560922:26
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openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Tests for extension, db and plugin for LBaaS V2  https://review.openstack.org/10561022:27
openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement Jinja templates for haproxy config  https://review.openstack.org/10686722:27
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Fix incorrect default paramater in migration  https://review.openstack.org/10672522:27
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Sukhdevshivharis: Ping22:29
shivharisSukhdev: pong22:30
marunHenryG: will do22:30
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openstackgerritAaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NSX: router-interface-attach router ports don't need port_security_enabled  https://review.openstack.org/10813422:34
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armaxkevinbenton: sorry phone rung22:43
nlahoutienikanorov_:  Hi again, rkukura replied to your comment can you please take a look.22:44
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kevinbentonarmax: no prob22:45
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openstackgerritStephen Wong proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for service-base-and-insertion  https://review.openstack.org/9312822:48
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: A10 Networks LBaaS Driver  https://review.openstack.org/10693722:50
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ChampHi ALl23:00
Champis there a way to add a ml2 plugin to an opestack- deployment?23:01
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ZZelleChamp, what do you mean exactly?23:01
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ChampHi zzelle23:05
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ChampI am writing an ML2 mechanism driver23:05
ChampI have a openstack deployment done already23:05
ChampI did not want to install neutron again23:05
ZZelleChamp, you don't need to23:05
Champcan I add my ML2 plugin to a running openstack deployment23:05
ChampTHen what should I be doing?23:05
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ZZelleChamp, ml2 uses stevedore to load mechanisms23:06
Champok. I am not really familiar with that23:06
ZZelleChamp, mechanism drivers are loaded using ml2/mechanism_drivers option (ok?)23:07
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ChampOk.23:07
openstackgerritShiv Haris proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: L3 Router service plugin to provide hardware based routing  https://review.openstack.org/10525023:08
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ZZelleChamp, but when you want to load openvswitch mechanism you don't set mechanism_drivers=neutron.plugins.ml2.drivers.mech_openvswitch:OpenvswitchMechanismDriver23:08
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ZZelleyou set instead mechanism_drivers=openvswitch (ok?)23:09
Champyes23:09
openstackgerritMandeep Dhami proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron Service Chaining Specification  https://review.openstack.org/9352423:09
ChampFrom the code I saw that when we install neutron, we have listed a number of mechanism drivers in setup.cfg. And when we specify a plugin to be used in ml2_conf.ini, it uses the names in that list23:09
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ZZelleexactly23:09
ChampSo actually my real question would be how do I add my driver to that list without having to run the setup.py again23:10
ZZelleChamp, you need to define a key=class path association in neutron.ml2.mechanism_drivers23:10
ZZellethe good new is that you define key,value association in neutron.ml2.mechanism_drivers namespace with an other setup.py!23:11
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ChampOh ok23:11
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Champso I can have another setup.py with my entry_point defined?23:11
ZZelleChamp, exactly, an example: http://paste.openstack.org/show/87192/23:13
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: hi23:13
Champok. I see. let me try that. Can I pm you in case I need further help? Thanks ZZelle23:14
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: hi…… do you already have defined the scenario you would implement?23:14
ZZelleChamp, not today, it's been late23:14
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: havent given it as much thought, scenario would be one where we exercise creating all the resources23:15
ChampThats OK. you have been big help already. Probably I will catch you tomorrow23:15
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: mhhhh. in that case I suggest you go ahead and implement an api test to clear the hurdle on Monday23:17
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: ok, makes sense23:17
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement migration of legacy routers to distributed  https://review.openstack.org/10585523:17
Sukhdevmestery: Ping23:17
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shivharisSumitNaiksatam: ping23:19
SumitNaiksatamshivharis: hi23:21
shivharisSumitNaiksatam: looking for a very short BP review, can you23:21
SumitNaiksatamshivharis: sure23:21
shivharishttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/105250/23:22
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: so basically follow the email you sent earlier?23:22
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: yeah23:22
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: ok cool23:22
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SumitNaiksatamshivharis: you reference, Arista hardware as an alternative, is the reference accurate?23:26
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: what is your plan…. are you going to work through the weekend?23:26
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: yes, will be working on this; need to do a ton of reviews but this is as much of a priority too23:27
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: does it seem doable?23:29
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openstackgerritVijay Kumar Venkatachalam proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Driver for the Neutron LBaaS plugin for using the Citrix NetScaler loadbalancing devices to provide LBaaS functionality in OpenStack based on the LBaaS V2 model  https://review.openstack.org/10817023:29
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: I went through several of the documents. I undertsand the concepts now…. I haven't found a document with a description of the current api…. it seems to me there's been several versions / iterations. Is there a document with the api as currently implemented by the patchsets? Or is the best approach to look at the unit tests and the python client?23:30
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: the current api is documented in the bp spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8946923:31
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: and also at a high level here: https://docs.google.com/a/noironetworks.com/presentation/d/1Nn1HjghAvk2RTPwvltSrnCUJkidWKWY2ckU7OYAVNpo/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g3831233f8_291223:31
openstackgerritShiv Haris proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: L3 Router service plugin to provide hardware based routing  https://review.openstack.org/10525023:32
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: you are on the west coast, right?23:35
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: yeah23:35
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mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: so at the very minimum, I will be pinging you over the week end to answer questions you might have about tempest and your implementation23:36
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: sweet23:39
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: thanks very much23:39
mlavalleSumitNaiksatam: Ideally, I would like to help you implementing the api in the tempest rest client. The reason I don't commit to do it is that I am not feeling that well, so I might have to rest over the weekend. But for the next hour or so, let me read the spec and see if a can get a very concrete idea of the api details23:39
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: sure23:39
* mlavalle reading the spec23:39
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: very happy to take your help on this23:39
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: but please take care of your health as well23:39
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: i will let you read the spec23:40
mlavalle:-)23:40
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: i might need to step away again for a little bit, but whenever you are done, you can let me know what the plan is, and we can proceed accordingly23:41
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mlavalleok23:41
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: if you dont feel well, i am happy to hack away at this per your guidance23:41
mlavalleok23:41
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: and check with you as and when i stumble23:41
mlavallelet me crry on for the time being23:41
mlavallecarry on23:41
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: sure23:42
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: if i dont get back in time, perhaps you can send a quick note to the email thread (that way i dont miss you)23:42
mlavallewill do23:42
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SumitNaiksatammlavalle: thanks a ton again23:43
mlavalleand you have my cell phone number… so feel free to call me23:43
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mlavallewhen I go to sleep I turned it off, so don't fear waking me up23:43
openstackgerritShiv Haris proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: L3 Router service plugin to provide hardware based routing  https://review.openstack.org/10525023:43
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: ok great :-)23:45
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shivharisSumitNaiksatam: still around?23:50
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make ML2 ensure_dvr_port_binding more robust  https://review.openstack.org/10473123:50
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 additions to support DVR  https://review.openstack.org/10239823:50
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Encapsulate some port properties in the PortContext  https://review.openstack.org/10788023:50
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make ML2 ensure_dvr_port_binding more robust  https://review.openstack.org/10473123:51
openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Plugin/DB additions for version 2 of LBaaS API  https://review.openstack.org/10560923:52
openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Tests for extension, db and plugin for LBaaS V2  https://review.openstack.org/10561023:52
openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement Jinja templates for haproxy config  https://review.openstack.org/10686723:53
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