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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: openvswitch/ofagent: Remove OVS.enable_tunneling option https://review.openstack.org/130708 | 05:15 |
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| trinaths | Hi All, Very Good Morning | 05:28 |
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| SridharG | haleyb: Hello. Can you please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135872/ Thanks. | 06:22 |
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| jschwarz_ | salv-orlando, morning! :) | 08:17 |
| jschwarz_ | salv-orlando, hate to nag, but I could really use some reviews on that small feature-spec https://review.openstack.org/140002 | 08:17 |
| jschwarz_ | salv-orlando, hopefully I can get it merged by day's end - it's really not that long of a spec :) | 08:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | yangxurong proposed openstack/neutron: Improve performance of get_active_networks_info https://review.openstack.org/133636 | 08:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | ijw-ubuntu proposed openstack/neutron-specs: VLAN trunking networks for NFV https://review.openstack.org/136554 | 08:25 |
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| jschwarz_ | ijw, ijw_, I'm going over your spec now and commenting on some of Armando's comments | 08:25 |
| jschwarz_ | looks good so far :) | 08:25 |
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| ijw | jschwarz_: which one? | 08:34 |
| jschwarz_ | ijw, the MTU one, ofcourse :) | 08:34 |
| ijw | The changes to that VLAN one are purely test related (missing the bloody ipv6 session) | 08:34 |
| jschwarz_ | I added a question inline regarding some contradiction but I hope the drivers will merge this | 08:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Enable test_migration https://review.openstack.org/140997 | 08:44 |
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| ijw | jschwarz_: I'm in meetings all day and on EU time but I can fold in changes providing you warn me they're needed | 08:48 |
| ijw | jschwarz_: Also, look at that VLAN one while you're there | 08:48 |
| jschwarz_ | ijw, will keep watch on the MTU one and will try and have a look on the VLAN | 08:49 |
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| jschwarz_ | will make sure to ping you if I see anything important (here for another 9 hours or so) | 08:49 |
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| ijw | jschwarz_: read those two sections you say contradict again, I think they agree | 08:51 |
| ijw | MTU set on the network, network_device_mtu is worked out and need not be provided in the configuration (because it's worked out) | 08:51 |
| ijw | mtu not set, network_device_mtu is used from the config | 08:51 |
| ijw | mtu not set, veth_mtu used from the config | 08:51 |
| ijw | I do think I need to define 'not set' there because it's more 'not calculated and provided as an attribute' and not 'not provided on net-create' | 08:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | ijw-ubuntu proposed openstack/neutron-specs: MTU selection and advertisement https://review.openstack.org/105989 | 08:59 |
| ijw | jschwarz_: get on it | 08:59 |
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| jschwarz_ | ijw, ack, sec | 09:05 |
| ijw | You in Europe? | 09:07 |
| jschwarz_ | ijw, Israel, so that's GMT+2. Pretty close to Europe though | 09:07 |
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| jschwarz_ | ijw, Thanks for the clarification. I'll +1 it :) | 09:08 |
| * ijw is temporarily European | 09:08 | |
| jschwarz_ | Where you at? | 09:08 |
| ijw | Croatia, this week. San Jose usually | 09:09 |
| jschwarz_ | Awesome. What | 09:09 |
| jschwarz_ | What are you doing in Croatia? | 09:09 |
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| trinaths | jschwarz_: Hey Friend. How are you.. :) | 09:15 |
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| jschwarz_ | trinaths, hi :) | 09:41 |
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| ijw | Hmm, Ryota's managed to find a good idea in the VIF metadata blueprints, and he's found it almost on the day of the spec deadline for Neutron | 10:02 |
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| ajo | jschwarz_, do you know which day is meeting this week? :) | 10:06 |
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| vinay_yadhav | sumit: Hi | 10:17 |
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| vinay_yadhav | SumitNaiksatam: Hi | 10:18 |
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| jschwarz_ | ajo, which meeting? | 10:38 |
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| ajo | jschwarz_ neutron's | 10:38 |
| jschwarz_ | ajo, the neutron weekly is tomorrow at 12:00 GMT | 10:38 |
| ajo | thanks :) | 10:38 |
| jschwarz_ | uw :) | 10:38 |
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| jschwarz_ | Say... | 10:42 |
| jschwarz_ | Does the most upstream code work? | 10:42 |
| jschwarz_ | Ah, I think I'm just missing the new repos for services | 10:43 |
| jschwarz_ | Isn't Devstack supposed to get them automatically? | 10:43 |
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| ajo | eezhova++ https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/d1531b5e99a1b1d20c5b9ef7254b4ae812b44654 | 10:52 |
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| ajo | nice work! | 10:52 |
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| ajo | I had to rebase the processmonitor patch because of a merge conflict, but... it was a pleasure to do it ! ;) | 10:52 |
| eezhova | ajo, thanks! I'm glad you like it :) | 10:53 |
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| yalie | hi rkukura , I filed a new bp for the trace the perf issue in port-sec, would that be OK? | 11:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Implements the ProcessMonitor in the l3_agent https://review.openstack.org/114931 | 11:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Implements ProcessMonitor in the dhcp_agent https://review.openstack.org/115935 | 11:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Move DB TestModelsMigrations from unit to functional https://review.openstack.org/126175 | 11:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add Process class helper to manage processes with namespace https://review.openstack.org/122207 | 12:12 |
| vinay_yadhav | sal-orl_: Hi savlatore | 12:12 |
| vinay_yadhav | salv-orl_: Hi savlatore | 12:13 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: Hi, can you rebase https://review.openstack.org/140997 | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Enable test_migration https://review.openstack.org/140997 | 12:19 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, done | 12:19 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: thanks! | 12:19 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, np :) | 12:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Add HA full-stack test https://review.openstack.org/123000 | 12:48 |
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| ihrachyshka | baoli: hey! | 12:58 |
| baoli | ihrachyshka: Hi | 12:59 |
| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Change transaction isolation so retry logic could work properly https://review.openstack.org/129288 | 13:03 |
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| ihrachyshka | baoli: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137656/ | 13:07 |
| ihrachyshka | baoli: could you please suggest the things I miss? | 13:07 |
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| ihrachyshka | baoli: btw I personally agree the whole two-attributes implementation is a disaster :) | 13:08 |
| baoli | ihrachyshka: give me a minute, let me look at the diff again. | 13:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Kilo L2 agent improvements https://review.openstack.org/137808 | 13:11 |
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| baoli | ihrachyshka: ipv6_ra_mode=off, ipv6_address_mode=dhcpv6-stateless from this link http://openstack.10931.n7.nabble.com/Neutron-IPv6-Private-or-Public-network-td31030.html | 13:13 |
| ihrachyshka | baoli: in that case, we don't run radvd locally, right? | 13:14 |
| ihrachyshka | instead, we rely on upstream RAs | 13:14 |
| baoli | iharchyshka: but read the description | 13:14 |
| ihrachyshka | you mean, from the last column? | 13:15 |
| baoli | ihrachyshka, yes | 13:16 |
| ihrachyshka | I don't see how it contradicts to the patch. In that case, we run dnsmasq but not radvd, and dnsmasq provides both IP and additional settings. RAs are coming from upstream router which is probably just setting O=1,M=1. | 13:17 |
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| ihrachyshka | in that case, we don't ever get into _generate_radvd_conf(), so it seems irrelevant | 13:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | yangzhenyu proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: when restart the vpn and l3 agent, the firewall rule apply to all tenants' router. https://review.openstack.org/141734 | 13:21 |
| baoli | ihrachyshka, yeah, sounds like you are right. You must have checked other parts of the code and it does the right thing in that case. Also, The subnet in this case won't be allowed to be added into a neutron router. | 13:21 |
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| ihrachyshka | baoli: ok, cool! I'm going to rebase the patch now. So in the end, I guess no updates needed to make you happy on that one, right? | 13:26 |
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| baoli | ihrachyshka: you probably want to remove is_slacc() now that you don't use it any more. Also, personally, I'd rather to see something like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92164/ rather than fixing bugs related to the two modes. | 13:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | ijw-ubuntu proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Improve the Nova/Neutron plugging negotiation https://review.openstack.org/141791 | 13:32 |
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| ihrachyshka | baoli: well, I don't think it's realistic to avoid fixing bugs in existing implementation | 13:35 |
| ihrachyshka | baoli: as for _is_slaac(), sure, thanks for spotting it | 13:36 |
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| baoli | ihrachyshka, I agree. What I mean is that we could spend our time wisely. | 13:36 |
| ihrachyshka | baoli: well, we cannot tell our users to wait several cycles before the feature is fixed 'the right way' (c) | 13:36 |
| baoli | ihrachyshka, that's all agreed. But sounds like you'd like to see it simplified as well? | 13:37 |
| ihrachyshka | baoli: sure, I haven't said I'm in favour of current implementation :) | 13:38 |
| ihrachyshka | the only fact that we need to reach to some external table of states to determine the expected behaviour (and often fail to determine it right even after referring to it) shows that there is a huge space for improvement :) | 13:39 |
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| ihrachyshka | baoli: ok, the update ^^ | 13:41 |
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| baoli | ihrachyshka, thanks for fixing it. | 13:41 |
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| yalie | hi salv-orlando | 13:51 |
| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Add HA full-stack test https://review.openstack.org/123000 | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Add full-stack tests framework https://review.openstack.org/128259 | 13:52 |
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| vinay_yadhav | Salv-orlando: Hi | 13:53 |
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| vinay_yadhav | salvatore, i wanted to know how we could move the current TaaS BP from juno into Kilo cycle | 13:54 |
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| irenab | salv-orlando:hi | 13:56 |
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| yalie | could help review port-sec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99873/ | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron-specs: RPC: docs and namespaces https://review.openstack.org/140166 | 14:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Refactor test against template https://review.openstack.org/140165 | 14:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Remove trailing whitespace. https://review.openstack.org/141810 | 14:18 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: ping | 14:25 |
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| salv-orlando | irenab, vinay_yadhav: is this about specs? If there's any spec I gave an unfair -2 just point me the link and reason and I'll remov eit | 14:25 |
| vinay_yadhav | hi salvatore | 14:26 |
| vinay_yadhav | currently we are reviewing the TaaS spec in juno folder | 14:26 |
| ijw | salv-orlando: maybe you should just stop giving unfair -2s? :P | 14:26 |
| vinay_yadhav | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96149/ | 14:26 |
| ijw | But it looks like the port security one above is good | 14:27 |
| vinay_yadhav | we wanted to know way forward in taking this spec to kilo release | 14:27 |
| vinay_yadhav | as today was the last day for finalizing the specs targeted towards kilo release | 14:28 |
| salv-orlando | vinay_yadhav: I have no -2 there | 14:28 |
| salv-orlando | maybe you want a +2? | 14:29 |
| salv-orlando | I shall have a monthly latter where the winner wins a +2 | 14:29 |
| salv-orlando | tickets are 5£ each | 14:29 |
| * ijw offers salvatore beer | 14:29 | |
| vinay_yadhav | hope we get that +2 | 14:29 |
| salv-orlando | I wanted to write lottery | 14:29 |
| salv-orlando | I write "latter" | 14:29 |
| salv-orlando | too much time in Salt Lake City perhaps? | 14:30 |
| vinay_yadhav | just wanted to know the way forward on the spec | 14:30 |
| salv-orlando | vinay_yadhav: In all fairness I have not yet completed your specs review. Which means I just read the problem description part. This will done by today. You will have a chance to reply to comments. | 14:30 |
| vinay_yadhav | ok thanks | 14:31 |
| salv-orlando | ijw: I will get to your spec too. I have not been working over the weekend unfortunately and I wasted thursday travelling and friday coughing and sneezing | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Introducing v3 plugin interface https://review.openstack.org/140527 | 14:43 |
| jschwarz_ | salv-orlando, nagging again - please make sure to look at my (other) spec at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140002/ :> | 14:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: ML2: portsecurity extension support https://review.openstack.org/99873 | 14:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as root on L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/136840 | 14:50 |
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| ijw | salv-orlando: in your own time, I'm sat here so ping me when you need any work on one of mine | 14:55 |
| ijw | vinay_yadhav: comments from me - I like TaaS but I think you've set up your concept in a really weird way | 14:55 |
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| ijw | Either that or you mean what I've said and you've described it in a really weird way | 14:56 |
| vinay_yadhav | any specific parts that you find not clearly described | 14:56 |
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| vinay_yadhav | ijw: any specific parts that you find not clearly described | 14:57 |
| ijw | No, it seems pretty clear you're describing a weird way of doing it, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt | 14:58 |
| ijw | If you had a port that was a port on the service, and mirrored traffic exited that port onto a network, it would all make a lot of sense | 14:58 |
| ijw | As it is, you have a port that's unattached and you promise to mirror packets to that port when it's attached to a VM, which is beyond weird | 14:58 |
| anilvenkata | enikanorov enikanorov__ Hi enikanorov | 15:01 |
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| enikanorov | anilvenkata: hi | 15:03 |
| anilvenkata | enikanorov this is regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140340/6/neutron/extensions/l3_ext_ha_mode.py | 15:03 |
| enikanorov | yep, what's this? | 15:04 |
| vinay_yadhav | ijw: We will address your queries in the patch, i am currently reading your comments and will get back with the responses | 15:04 |
| vinay_yadhav | ijw: thanks for the review | 15:04 |
| anilvenkata | enikanorov I am trying to address your -1 for this patch | 15:04 |
| ijw | OK - I would suggest doing an update of the spec rather than answering the questions, if you agree with them at all | 15:04 |
| anilvenkata | enikanorov "missing space between words" | 15:05 |
| enikanorov | anilvenkata: you need to add space to the end of the line | 15:05 |
| anilvenkata | enikanorov oh, thanks enikanorov | 15:05 |
| anilvenkata | enikanorov I will do that | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: validate L3 HA min/max _l3_agents_per_router https://review.openstack.org/140340 | 15:06 |
| vinay_yadhav | ijw: the service creates a neutron port to which mirrored traffic will be sent | 15:06 |
| enikanorov | anilvenkata: otherwise it will be "... parameteris not valid ..." | 15:06 |
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| vinay_yadhav | one can launch a VM on the port to monitor the traffic | 15:07 |
| amuller | anilvenkata: Heya, did you see enikanorov's comment? Just missing a space at the end of the line in that message | 15:07 |
| anilvenkata | enikanorov Yes, that was a mistake, I will do that, Thanks enikanorov | 15:07 |
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| anilvenkata | amuller: Yes Assaf, thanks for the correction, I will do that change now | 15:07 |
| amuller | kk | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: validate L3 HA min/max _l3_agents_per_router https://review.openstack.org/140340 | 15:10 |
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| anilvenkata | amuller: enikanorov Done the suggested change, please review https://review.openstack.org/140340 | 15:11 |
| enikanorov | anilvenkata: ok, thanks | 15:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robin Wang proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVS status and fix OVS crash https://review.openstack.org/140342 | 15:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Robin Wang proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-Agent crashes when OVS dead https://review.openstack.org/136991 | 15:21 |
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| ijw | vinay_yadhav: The way you've written it, the service creates a port *that you attach a VM to* | 15:25 |
| ijw | You have a specific example of using the port with --nic port-id=... | 15:26 |
| ijw | vinay_yadhav: compare that with a router, for instance, which creates ports *that attach the service to a network* | 15:26 |
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| jschwarz_ | ZZelle, hi :) | 15:30 |
| ZZelle | jschwarz_, hi | 15:30 |
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| jschwarz_ | ZZelle, why are you lost? | 15:30 |
| jschwarz_ | ZZelle, anything I can do to help? | 15:30 |
| ZZelle | jschwarz_, i commited not what i expected | 15:31 |
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| jschwarz_ | ZZelle, :( stay strong my friend! | 15:31 |
| ZZelle | jschwarz_, i need to un-rebase my patchset or the opposite or something else :| | 15:31 |
| jschwarz_ | ZZelle, :( | 15:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robin Wang proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-Agent crashes when OVS dead https://review.openstack.org/136991 | 15:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Set default of api_workers to number of CPUs https://review.openstack.org/140493 | 15:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as root on L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/136840 | 15:44 |
| ZZelle | jschwarz_, corrected ^^ | 15:44 |
| ihrachyshka | ZZelle: still 'Merge Failed.' | 15:45 |
| ZZelle | ihrachyshka, now the rebase :) | 15:45 |
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| ihrachyshka | ah, ok :) | 15:45 |
| ihrachyshka | good luck :) | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robin Wang proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-Agent crashes when OVS dead https://review.openstack.org/136991 | 15:46 |
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| vinay_yadhav | ijw: in case of a router, the router is provisioned by the neutron and plugged into the network | 15:49 |
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| jschwarz_ | ZZelle++ | 15:49 |
| vinay_yadhav | but in our case we do not want to create a monitoring VM for the tenant | 15:50 |
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| vinay_yadhav | all we want to do is give the tenant a port where they receive mirrored traffic and allow the tenant to run VM with any functionality running in it that handles mirrored packets | 15:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Add functional test for l3-agent metadata proxy https://review.openstack.org/136511 | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as root on L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/136840 | 16:01 |
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| ZZelle | jschwarz_, still incorrect :'( | 16:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Remove trailing whitespace. https://review.openstack.org/141810 | 16:05 |
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| jschwarz_ | ZZelle, need some help? | 16:09 |
| ZZelle | jschwarz_, an e-caffee | 16:10 |
| ZZelle | jschwarz_, please :) | 16:10 |
| jschwarz_ | lol | 16:11 |
| jschwarz_ | what's an e-caffee? | 16:11 |
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| prometheanfire | where in oslo.cfg.CONF are the ml2 settings at? I'm trying to inspect them to write a sanity check and can't find it | 16:13 |
| prometheanfire | looking for the type_drivers that are defined | 16:13 |
| prometheanfire | even the enable_vxlan of vxlan in linux_bridge would work | 16:14 |
| prometheanfire | basically this test would need to be run any time vxlan is used as a transport at all | 16:15 |
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| dougwig | ihrachyshka: ping? | 16:17 |
| ihrachyshka | dougwig: pong! | 16:17 |
| dougwig | morning! (or evening) | 16:17 |
| ihrachyshka | dougwig: I dropped an email to openstack-dev on our matter, please take a look | 16:17 |
| ihrachyshka | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/052972.html | 16:17 |
| dougwig | i saw your email, and i'm actually in favor of your option 2, but I wanted to check that you were willing to be the oslo maintainer for all four repos? | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as root on L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/136840 | 16:18 |
| dougwig | i'm only in favor of the full separation if we need separate oslo maintainers, or once the project is more separate, which won't be for a few more cycles. | 16:18 |
| pc_m | dougwig: ping | 16:18 |
| dougwig | pc_m: ack | 16:19 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Can you do a review of 141532 again, I rebased and brought in Ihar's change. | 16:19 |
| dougwig | yep | 16:19 |
| pc_m | thanks | 16:19 |
| ihrachyshka | dougwig: I think it's kinda obvious that we don't split liaisons when splitting repos :) | 16:20 |
| dougwig | ihrachyshka: that's cool by me, but i didn't want to speak for you, since it will make your life a bit harder. :) | 16:20 |
| ihrachyshka | dougwig: otherwise, synchronization would be crazy after all splits are done | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Sridar Kandaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: FWaaS Insertion Model on a Single Router https://review.openstack.org/138672 | 16:20 |
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| ihrachyshka | dougwig: I got what I asked... :) | 16:20 |
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| dougwig | ihrachyshka: ok, let me reply to ML and then +2 you. | 16:21 |
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| prometheanfire | also, why do we interact with iproute2 instead of using the non-changing kernel APIs? | 16:22 |
| prometheanfire | having the change code base on iproute2 seems redundant | 16:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Specification for the BP multiple-ipv6-prefixes https://review.openstack.org/98217 | 16:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Have L3 agent catch the correct exception https://review.openstack.org/140507 | 16:25 |
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| ijw | vinay_yadhav: to restart that discussion, there are two ways you could move traffic to a VM - you could make a port that works in a way that is completely different to every other Neutron port, since it doesn't get traffic from its network (so why it has a network at all is a mystery) | 16:30 |
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| dougwig | ihrachyshka: kill oslo reviews updated. | 16:30 |
| ijw | vinay_yadhav: or alternatively you could actually put the mirrored traffic out on a network via a port (which makes much more logical sense) and then attach VMs to that network instead of the port | 16:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Remove locking from network and subnet delete op https://review.openstack.org/115360 | 16:31 |
| p01s0n | is there any limit on number of compute nodes that are supported when using GRE tunnels,i heard there is a limit of ~800.Any idea? | 16:32 |
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| p01s0n | but this 800 limit is not applicable when vxlan is used | 16:33 |
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| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: I can't get sanity checks to load the config files, I'm just getting defaults in cfg.CONF and the like | 17:01 |
| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: cfg.CONF.config_file doesn't exist | 17:02 |
| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire are you passing --config-file to neutron-sanity-check? | 17:03 |
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| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: yes, but I'm printing out the cfg values before config.init so I am stupid | 17:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Introduce flavor framework for services https://review.openstack.org/102723 | 17:04 |
| amuller | prometheanfire: Or Oslo config is just really complicated... | 17:04 |
| amuller | I think we've all been there | 17:04 |
| prometheanfire | lol, ya | 17:04 |
| prometheanfire | this is my first real foray into the openstack code, so there's that too | 17:05 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: hi | 17:05 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: in meeting, but will try to chat :) | 17:06 |
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| enikanorov | jaypipes: no prob. wanted to discuss that patch with tx isolation levels. it appears that it all was not so simple. ping me once the meeting ends | 17:07 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: k, will do/ | 17:08 |
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| ihrachyshka | dougwig: hey. may you also respond to that email in openstack-dev so that it's clear we've settled on some solution? | 17:10 |
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| ZZelle | armax, hi | 17:11 |
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| salv-orlando | ZZelle: what was your spec again? | 17:16 |
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| ZZelle | salv-orlando, in fact 2 :) | 17:22 |
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| ZZelle | salv-orlando, one about stateless nat and one about dhcp scheduling in order to check the spec is in line with armax idea | 17:23 |
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| ZZelle | salv-orlando, ie: https://review.openstack.org/138201 and https://review.openstack.org/111210 | 17:24 |
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| ZZelle | salv-orlando, last one has been +2 by armax so it seems in line :) | 17:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: DHCP Service LoadBalancing Scheduler https://review.openstack.org/111210 | 17:28 |
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| ijw | Anyone seen markmc? | 17:29 |
| ijw | Ah, I see he's floating about | 17:30 |
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| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: question, is it alright if I fix an unreported bug (the sanity check ALWAYS runs the ovs_patch check, even on an empty list). | 17:47 |
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| ijw | markmcclain: ping | 17:47 |
| markmcclain | ijw: pong | 17:48 |
| ijw | re MTU, you've got two comments on there, one that it should be admin only but no reason why, and one that it shouldn't be an extension, which is fine because it isn't | 17:48 |
| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: it's usually better to fix them as a separate patch unless it directly relates to the patch you are writing. | 17:48 |
| markmcclain | ijw: so one of the concerns is that we're leaking out details | 17:49 |
| amuller | prometheanfire: It's customary to report a bug and fix it in a dedicated patch | 17:49 |
| ijw | Which details? | 17:49 |
| prometheanfire | amuller: ok | 17:49 |
| prometheanfire | it is minor I think, but ok | 17:49 |
| markmcclain | ijw: and wanted a phased rollout | 17:49 |
| ijw | I think the phased rollout is fine - we can make a default policy that protects the mtu flag if you like, but I think advertise-mtu is worth making public | 17:50 |
| ijw | Cos it's actually rather useful | 17:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron-specs: RPC: docs and namespaces https://review.openstack.org/140166 | 17:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Refactor test against template https://review.openstack.org/140165 | 17:50 |
| ijw | But I'm not sure what details you're worried about leaking, and I'm not sure that protecting the attribute will necessarily defend you from it | 17:50 |
| rustlebee | markmcclain: if you want to fast re-approve that spec test patch before something else merges and breaks it again :-) ^^^ | 17:50 |
| prometheanfire | does neutron require openvswitch even if not using it? | 17:51 |
| ijw | nope | 17:51 |
| prometheanfire | the sanity check seems to | 17:51 |
| ijw | Use LB, and OVS is never required | 17:51 |
| prometheanfire | is there a way to see if OVS is enabled anywhere in the config (a sort of master OVS switch)? | 17:52 |
| ijw | The OVS ML2 mech driver would needed to be included in the ML2 configs, I think | 17:53 |
| prometheanfire | that's just ml2, OVS has it's own config | 17:53 |
| prometheanfire | cfg.CONF.OVS.use_veth_interconnection defaults to false, and if that is false the test is run in the sanity_check | 17:54 |
| markmcclain | rustlebee: done | 17:54 |
| rustlebee | thanks! | 17:54 |
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| prometheanfire | can someone not running ovs (or having it installed) run the sanity check? | 17:55 |
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| mestery | ijw: Leaking the underlying implementation details is the concern here, if we leak MTU we're leaking the details of tunnel encap for tunnel networks for example. I think that was the concern. | 17:57 |
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| ijw | That's almost fair but the solution you offer doesn't really help | 17:57 |
| ijw | So firstly it sort-of leaks the info, but you are free to adjust your MTU on your hosts so in fact you can affect the number it reports (and probably should, really) | 17:58 |
| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: they *should* be able to. If they can't, then it is a either a bug in the sanity check script (like the ovs_patch one you found), or a misconfiguration where ovs is enabled and shouldn't be. | 17:58 |
| ijw | Secondly, even if you made it admin-only, the default Armando wanted is advertise on, so you'll advertise the MTU even if you can't as tenant affect or see the set MTU value as things have it. | 17:59 |
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| ijw | Working out the MTU is really only useful if you actually share that knowledge. I think you could have an enable flag - and that's fine - but I don't think admin-by-default is enough protection for you if that concerns you | 17:59 |
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| ijw | markmcclain, mestery: so fine, but I think you need a different solution if you're concerned. Also, to be honest, you might want to think about why leaking info about the encap is a problem | 18:01 |
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| mestery | ijw: Fair enough, :) | 18:05 |
| amuller | ijw: I don't know why a user would know what the MTU for his network was (Or be able to change it) but not be able to see if it were a VXLAN or VLAN network | 18:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Refactor test against template https://review.openstack.org/140165 | 18:08 |
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| salv-orlando | ZZelle__: I did not remember the stateless NAT one. I'll make sure this is analysed by the end of the day. I think it's ok to be approved from my side. | 18:09 |
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| salv-orlando | for the dhcp scheduler one we discussed it and it is a really low risk blueprint, so it's easy targeting it for kilo. | 18:10 |
| salv-orlando | indeed it's approved now | 18:10 |
| enikanorov | russellb: hi | 18:11 |
| russellb | o/ | 18:11 |
| enikanorov | russellb: just wanted you to take a look, i've rebased your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140493/ on top of one that changes tx isolation level | 18:12 |
| russellb | ah, cool, thanks | 18:13 |
| russellb | i'm in no rush to get that in or anything, but i did see that comment that it was failing due to needing another patch under review, so the rebase makes sense | 18:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Auto allocate gateway_ip even for SLAAC subnets https://review.openstack.org/135872 | 18:24 |
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| ijw | amuller: Well, I don't see why the user should have any insight into the type of the network - that's the cloud SP's knowledge and something he likely doesn't want the customer to start relying on - but clearly he wants to know what MTU he should be using | 18:27 |
| amuller | ijw: What you're saying fits the admin only story | 18:28 |
| amuller | The admin could set a default for example, which the user would have read-only access to | 18:28 |
| ijw | amuller: not really - I'm saying that the customer should not know the encap. Firstly, the MTU size is only weakly associated with the encap (because it's also a function of the infrastructure MTU) and secondly, making the attributes admin only does not hide the MTU from the user | 18:29 |
| enikanorov | russellb: unfortunately the base patch is a hack. so i doubt it will ever get in... but my point was to raise a discussion. I think we'll need to discuss it at team meeting | 18:30 |
| ijw | Because the user *really* needs to know what the MTU is, and is currently being screwed up because they can't work that out | 18:30 |
| russellb | enikanorov: ah ok i haven't looked into the other patch yet | 18:30 |
| amuller | *Knowing* what the MTU is, is one thing | 18:30 |
| amuller | Affecting it is another | 18:30 |
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| ijw | amuller: perhaps, but knowing what the MTU is is what gives away the encap, affecting it does not | 18:30 |
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| ijw | amuller: so the two arguments are actually independent of one another. You may want to hide the encap - fine. That is not a reason by itself to stop the user affecting the MTU of their own networks | 18:31 |
| amuller | ijw: Affecting the MTU would have to return a success or failure, I would be able to deduce the supported infra MTU that way | 18:31 |
| ijw | amuller: given that the default is 'return the best MTU for the infra' you don't need to affect it to work out some information | 18:32 |
| ijw | Next question is: what good does it do you? | 18:32 |
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| amuller | Regardless of the possible ties to encapsulation methods, there's still a couple of things I don't think the spec explains well enough: Why would a user request different MTUs on their networks. Doesn't it make more sense for the admin to set an infrastructure-wide default, and failing that (Variance amongst the network portions of the cloud), a per physnet-MTU? Exposing *what* the MTU to the user is a debate of itself, but I see | 18:35 |
| amuller | MTU as a fundementially cloud infrastructure implementation detail which the user should never be able to affect | 18:35 |
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| amuller | So the admin would be able to set a per cloud, per physnet, or per network MTU (Which of the three is an open question in my mind, but I understand your view), that's one question. The second is if the user should be able to see it, and the third is if he should be able to affect it | 18:37 |
| amuller | In my eyes, the answer to the third question is clearly no | 18:37 |
| amuller | The third two, I don't know | 18:37 |
| amuller | ijw: ^ | 18:38 |
| ijw | amuller: The main reason I can foresee for non-admin configuration of MTU in a normal cloud is that the admin configures a jumbo MTU and a user wants a 1500 MTU | 18:38 |
| amuller | Ok, can you explain that? | 18:39 |
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| ijw | OK, have 2 mins and I have to run now | 18:39 |
| amuller | Why would a user want an MTU lower than the infrastructure supports? (I'm genuinely asking) | 18:39 |
| amuller | I'll add this stuff to Gerrit then | 18:39 |
| ijw | Because it can be a complete sod to set a jumbo MTU on your VMs in particular | 18:39 |
| ijw | ipv6 it's hard to grow your MTU so you need to support configuring it in some sort of out of band manner | 18:40 |
| ijw | ipv4, not everything asks for the DHCP MTU attribute | 18:40 |
| amuller | but you don't have to do that if you're ok with sub-optimal MTU? Don't set it, the default is 1500, if you're ok with that you're all set | 18:40 |
| ijw | And there's nothing in cloud-init to pass MTu now and even if there is there's no guarantee anything will support it | 18:40 |
| ijw | And even if it did, then how do you get the cloud-init file when you don't have the right MTU? | 18:41 |
| ijw | amuller: If your MTU does not agree with your router's MTU and all the other MTUs on your network then you're screwed, and if you can't tell the system what that has to be - which is what the MTU flag fundamentally does - how do you make things work? | 18:41 |
| amuller | I see | 18:42 |
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| amuller | ijw: Well if you're out of time let's continue on Gerrit, I'll copy this discussion there | 18:43 |
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| amuller | ijw: You could say that if the admin *sets* the MTU, and the user is not exposed to it via the API, he would be anyway be able to see what MTU his guests get | 18:46 |
| amuller | so not exposing what the MTU is, is a non-point | 18:46 |
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| amuller | However even if a user would not be able to set the MTU, that doesn't mean his guests would not get the value the admin set | 18:47 |
| amuller | as the default | 18:47 |
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| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: I'd appreciate your thoughts on this patch before I submit for review https://gist.github.com/bc24a09ed4b321c247af | 18:49 |
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| ihrachyshka | prometheanfire: sorry for my ignorance, but is /sys/modules/vxlan file present when the module is compiled into the kernel too? | 18:52 |
| prometheanfire | ihrachyshka: yes | 18:53 |
| prometheanfire | ihrachyshka: that' | 18:53 |
| prometheanfire | bah | 18:53 |
| prometheanfire | that's how I run | 18:53 |
| ihrachyshka | ok, thanks | 18:54 |
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| erikmoe | reed: I noticed that vlan-aware-vms is not included in the specs review dashboard you sent out a link to | 19:04 |
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| reed | erikmoe, probably because you're the author? | 19:04 |
| erikmoe | aha, :) | 19:05 |
| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: what if it is a module, but nothing has caused it to load? If you are doing a test at deployment time and just checking that the file exists, couldn't that be a problem? | 19:05 |
| reed | erikmoe, check the URL, it has a filter for 'not-author' that you can remove | 19:05 |
| reed | erikmoe, check the conversation on Nova, they've modified/improved the dashboard I have used to create the neutron one | 19:05 |
| erikmoe | ok, it was a very long url, gave up reading it. will search | 19:06 |
| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: the reason I went with this way was because if we are testing the usability at deployment then we need to check that it is actually loaded | 19:06 |
| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: usually the sanity checks will actually try to use the feature they are testing for. i.e. just use the libraries to create a vxlan port, etc. | 19:07 |
| otherwiseguy | If the port exists, we're good. Otherwise, no. | 19:07 |
| prometheanfire | I was going to add the sanity check to the init script | 19:07 |
| prometheanfire | I could do that as well | 19:07 |
| pc_m | amuller: ping | 19:09 |
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| erikmoe | reed: edited it and now I see my own, thanks | 19:10 |
| reed | great, erikmoe, feel free to share it :) | 19:11 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: not sure if you're still around... I'm finally done with meetings. :) | 19:13 |
| amuller | pc_m: Could we talk tomorrow? I'm just on my way out | 19:13 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: cool | 19:13 |
| pc_m | amuller: Can you (and any cores here), review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136549/. I'd like to get this in, as it has a base class that the VPN and FW repos need. It's not a final refactor, but one of several progressive steps we have to do. | 19:13 |
| pc_m | amuller: just looking for review on the latest patch... | 19:13 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: so, after some reserach on tx isolation and how it is changed with sqlalchemy, i've found two results | 19:13 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: first one is that tx isolation level should be set inside a transaction. i wonder way, but it's a fact, when i set it outside (beforehand) - it doesn't work | 19:14 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: the second result is that read committed level for mysql brings lots of lock wait timeouts... | 19:14 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: I thought that you had tested with read committed and seen no more lock timeouts? | 19:15 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: so the best thing i could do is to produce a hack-patch and change the tx isolation level just for the one transaction (and bring it back after it is committed) | 19:15 |
| jaypipes | I thought that was the whole reason behind doing it? :) | 19:15 |
| erikmoe | reed: i just removed the first '+NOT+owner%3Aself' not sure it's the best way to do it (probably not, but it worked) | 19:15 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: whole reason was to allow retries to work inside a transaction | 19:15 |
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| enikanorov | but when it comes to other parts of neutron code... lock wait timeouts all around | 19:16 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: right, but the reason for the retries is to avoid SELECT FOR UPDATE :) | 19:16 |
| enikanorov | and it's understood | 19:16 |
| enikanorov | because with repeatable read each query creates a snapshot that is reused, but wth read committed - it all relies on row/table locks | 19:17 |
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| enikanorov | so there is much more contention with regard to table access | 19:17 |
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| jaypipes | enikanorov: ooooh, you are saying that doing that read committed retry loop in that place causes lock wait timeouts in *other* parts of Neutron? | 19:17 |
| enikanorov | at least that's how i understand the reason | 19:17 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: no. | 19:17 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: the idea was to set read committed as a default isolation level for whole neutron | 19:17 |
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| enikanorov | when i did that, i got lots of lock wait timeouts from various places in the code | 19:18 |
| enikanorov | (except for that retry logic, lol) | 19:18 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: I didn't realize that was the idea... I thought the idea was to enable read committed for just the places using the retry loops. | 19:18 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: well, some of reviewes didn't like that localized approach | 19:18 |
| jaypipes | oh, ok | 19:19 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: so, bottom line, doing a read committed isolation level doesn't change the fact that a SELECT FOR UPDATE call will issue write-intent locks. | 19:19 |
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| enikanorov | jaypipes: that's for sure | 19:20 |
| enikanorov | and it will make it much more likely | 19:20 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: so that is why all the places that use SELECT FOR UPDATE need to be changed to use that retry loop strategy. | 19:20 |
| jaypipes | otherwise, yes, you'll likely run into issues :_) | 19:20 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: either that, or we use read committed only on that isolated section of code. | 19:21 |
| enikanorov | i think the bottom line is that we can't change default isolation level for mysql right now... | 19:21 |
| enikanorov | jaypipes: yes | 19:21 |
| jaypipes | yes, agreed. | 19:21 |
| enikanorov | but i gotta admit it is hackish approach | 19:21 |
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| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: just remembered, the reason I didn't want to create a port is that I wanted it to be agnostic of if you are using ovs or not, the command differs if using ovs or linuxbridge | 19:22 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: not really a hackish approach, IMO... | 19:22 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: it solves a problem. | 19:22 |
| enikanorov | well, sure :) | 19:22 |
| jaypipes | enikanorov: by utilizing a strategy that allows multiple threads to make progress | 19:22 |
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| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: I generally like tests to be atomic if possible :D | 19:24 |
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| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: your blog down? | 19:30 |
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| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: also, reguarding your ovsdb patch, nice, was thinking of doing something like this for the iproute2 stuff | 19:31 |
| prometheanfire | dunno if it'd improve anything though | 19:31 |
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| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: I like tests to be atomic when they can be, but the whole point of moving things to sanity checks is to not have to worry about that,. Basically its for having a place you can run tests that a) directly test functionality by using it and b) where it doesn't happen at runtime modifying system state on a production system. If there were no cases where just checking the file existence would mark a | 19:31 |
| otherwiseguy | system as not supporting vxlan when it could, then I'm fine with it. | 19:31 |
| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: my question is if we need a check for each thing that control vxlan then? | 19:32 |
| prometheanfire | do we need a linuxbridge_vxlan check and a ovs_vxlan check and any others that may exist? | 19:32 |
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| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: thanks. I'm rewriting it yet again. :p I'd love to see something that used pyroute2 instead of all of the sudo rootwrap stuff for that. root permissions necessity becomes an issue, but there are things we might be able to do there... | 19:33 |
| prometheanfire | ya, forgot about the root thing, that could be an issue | 19:34 |
| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: same thing with python-iptables. | 19:34 |
| prometheanfire | does pyroute2 interact with the kernel apis directly? because that's what I'm looking for (since it would stop code churn that iproute2 is causing) | 19:34 |
| prometheanfire | the sudo thing is the main issue I see | 19:35 |
| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: it does. | 19:35 |
| otherwiseguy | (netlink socket) | 19:35 |
| prometheanfire | nice, was hoping I wouldn't have to write my own | 19:35 |
| prometheanfire | would also be interesting to see any perf gains | 19:35 |
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| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: can you think of any other way to have a generic vxlan check? (since that's what the original was) | 19:39 |
| prometheanfire | or does it need to be rewritten to be a specific vxlan check for linuxbridge to match your one for ovs? | 19:39 |
| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: couldn't the vxlan test just do something like directly call 'ip' to create a vxlan device? | 19:39 |
| prometheanfire | I don't think so | 19:39 |
| otherwiseguy | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/vxlan.txt | 19:40 |
| prometheanfire | the way ovs does it for instance is by calling ovs iirc, not ip | 19:40 |
| prometheanfire | so it wouldn't be testing that case properly | 19:40 |
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| otherwiseguy | Then yeah, I'd guess check_ovs_vxlan and check_lb_vxlan or ip_vxlan, or whatever. | 19:41 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Brocade Vyatta VPN service and device drivers https://review.openstack.org/136693 | 19:42 |
| prometheanfire | I think I can just change it to ip, since you are alredy covering ovs | 19:42 |
| prometheanfire | that sound good (I might rename your test though | 19:42 |
| prometheanfire | ? | 19:42 |
| * otherwiseguy currently has a cold and probably cannot be trusted | 19:43 | |
| otherwiseguy | :) | 19:43 |
| otherwiseguy | Rename away! | 19:43 |
| prometheanfire | cool, at least it's not ebola | 19:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron: Minor lbaasv2 things from the feature branch, needed in neutron https://review.openstack.org/141533 | 19:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Brandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: Advanced services support in neutron-db-manage https://review.openstack.org/140537 | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron: Minor lbaasv2 things from the feature branch, needed in neutron https://review.openstack.org/141533 | 20:00 |
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| alexm__ | Hi guys, I’m a bit confused about what is possible to do with a Flat networking in Neutron | 20:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for the brocade lbaas driver based on v2 lbaas data model https://review.openstack.org/134108 | 20:02 |
| alexm__ | Can I have the neutron metadata api isolated with namespaces using a Flat network with nodes connected to simple L2 switch? | 20:03 |
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| ihrachyshka | markmcclain: fyi we can't introduce jinja2 dep for patches intended for backport | 20:07 |
| markmcclain | ihrachyshka: how far are we backporting? | 20:08 |
| ihrachyshka | markmcclain: this specific patch - juno | 20:08 |
| markmcclain | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/stable/icehouse/requirements.txt#L15 | 20:08 |
| ihrachyshka | icehouse doesn't have the code | 20:08 |
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| markmcclain | jinja has been in since Icehosue | 20:08 |
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| ihrachyshka | markmcclain: oh, sorry, I looked wrong name | 20:08 |
| ihrachyshka | with lowercase :) | 20:08 |
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| ihrachyshka | ok, good, I'll look into templating it then! thanks | 20:09 |
| marun | jaypipes: hi | 20:09 |
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| markmcclain | no worries.. it's hard to keep up with all of our requirements | 20:09 |
| jaypipes | marun: hi maru, what's up? | 20:09 |
| marun | jaypipes: re: mailing list discussion around uniqueness | 20:09 |
| marun | jaypipes: I'm at a loss to understand the lack of rationality on that thread. | 20:10 |
| jaypipes | marun: by lack of rationality, you are referring to people not agreeing with us? :) or something else? | 20:10 |
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| jaypipes | marun: it sounds like you and I are pretty much the only ones on that side of the fence. | 20:11 |
| marun | jaypipes: am I crazy in thinking that most resources in openstack are not uniquely named? | 20:11 |
| kevinbenton | jaypipes: i don't think names should be uniqued either | 20:11 |
| marun | jaypipes: I did some work to create custom puppet types for puppet-neutron last year, and the lack of unique names was maddening. | 20:11 |
| kevinbenton | just didn't think a 'me too' post was too valuable | 20:11 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: ok, three of us :) | 20:11 |
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| marun | jaypipes: So it's not that I don't wish we had them. | 20:12 |
| marun | jaypipes: my opinion is that we shouldn't be violating consistency because people like it in this instance or that instance. | 20:12 |
| kevinbenton | if we are going to go down that route we should at least be consistent and make all of them unique in their group | 20:13 |
| marun | jaypipes: either we enforce unique names everywhere, or we don't | 20:13 |
| marun | jaypipes: I also don't understand how sdague would advocate for unique names in this instance but seemingly ignore their use for vm's | 20:13 |
| jaypipes | marun: well, I agree with that. I don't know what the ratio of unique to non-unique things is, but I would suspect that there are more unique than non-unique. | 20:13 |
| marun | jaypipes: Am I missing something? | 20:13 |
| marun | jaypipes: Maybe my exposure has been limited to larger resources then. | 20:14 |
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| marun | jaypipes: would this be a topic for the api wg? | 20:14 |
| jaypipes | marun: you are talking about the instance display name? i.e. instance.name, not instance.hostname, right? | 20:14 |
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| marun | jaypipes: correct | 20:14 |
| marun | jaypipes: that's all a name is, really. for display. | 20:14 |
| jaypipes | marun: that is a vestigiality of RAX CLoud Servers. | 20:14 |
| marun | jaypipes: the uuid is still used for referencing | 20:15 |
| marun | jaypipes: the use or non-use of unique names? | 20:15 |
| jaypipes | marun: the lack of uniqueness is a vestigiality of RAX CS. | 20:15 |
| jaypipes | marun: on instance.name. | 20:15 |
| marun | jaypipes: so, legacy all round | 20:16 |
| jaypipes | marun: for other services, like keystone, it's always been up to the project to decide. | 20:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Radware LBaaS Driver https://review.openstack.org/139854 | 20:16 |
| jaypipes | marun: for good and bad. | 20:16 |
| marun | jaypipes: bad, methinks. | 20:16 |
| jaypipes | marun: so we end up with complete inconsistency. yes. | 20:16 |
| jaypipes | bad indeed. | 20:16 |
| marun | jaypipes: having no consistency to api's across projects | 20:16 |
| marun | jaypipes: is this something the api wg would tackle? | 20:16 |
| jaypipes | marun: this is certainly a API WG problem. | 20:16 |
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| marun | markmcclain: jaypipes and i have been discussing the ml thread around https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135006/ | 20:19 |
| marun | markmcclain: I've -2'd pending a decision by drivers. | 20:19 |
| marun | markmcclain: I don't think we should be changing things to suite the wider community in the absence of a clear guideline from the api wg | 20:19 |
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| marun | markmcclain: can I add to the agenda for wed? | 20:20 |
| marun | mestery, salv-orlando, armax, amotoki ^^ | 20:21 |
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| mestery | markmcclain: ++, that works for me, lets discuss Wednesday | 20:21 |
| mestery | marun: ^^^ | 20:21 |
| marun | mestery: ok, thanks. | 20:22 |
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| mestery | marun: Thank you for driving that discussion! | 20:22 |
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| salv-orlando | marun: sounds good to me, I was indeed going to reply on the ml thread first. We can discuss it on wednesday meeting, but since I do not see a priority in this change, I would gladly wait for an official recommendation | 20:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Smith proposed openstack/neutron: This patch will be used to compare dvr vs full neturon runs https://review.openstack.org/141897 | 20:34 |
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| marun | jaypipes: any interest in adding the topic to the api wg agenda on thurs? | 20:34 |
| jaypipes | marun: sure. | 20:35 |
| jaypipes | marun: though the best way to approach this is to submit a patch to the api-wg repo I think. I just don't have the time to do it right now :( | 20:35 |
| marun | jaypipes: do you think anyone actually wants to discuss that, or are you just humoring me? | 20:35 |
| marun | jaypipes: ok | 20:35 |
| jaypipes | marun: lots of people want to discuss it. making changes in actual projects to be consistent... that's another thing altogether. | 20:36 |
| marun | jaypipes: right. given how many project-level deviations exist, it would probably be a hard fight. | 20:36 |
| jaypipes | marun: the first step is to actually make it part of the API standardws. | 20:37 |
| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: this is what I'm gonna submit https://gist.github.com/049d7b7800a9f808f51f | 20:37 |
| marun | jaypipes: ok | 20:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Advanced Services split - unit tests https://review.openstack.org/141532 | 20:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/neutron: check that the vxlan kernel module is available in the proper way https://review.openstack.org/141898 | 20:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/neutron: check that the vxlan kernel module is available in the proper way https://review.openstack.org/141899 | 20:44 |
| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: looks sane to me. probably have to change the functional test in tests/functional/sanity/ due to checks.vxlan_supported -> checks.ovs_vxlan_supported. | 20:44 |
| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: maybe, I didn't see those tests at first pass | 20:45 |
| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141899/ | 20:45 |
| prometheanfire | otherwiseguy: why did this open up a new review? | 20:45 |
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| prometheanfire | I thought it would have used the existing one at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140839/ | 20:45 |
| otherwiseguy | prometheanfire: their only real purpose is to ensure that we catch somebody modifying one of the underlying APIs used in the test without updating the sanity check code as well. | 20:46 |
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| prometheanfire | I understand, just missed the test, looked but didn't find at first :P | 20:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/neutron: check that the vxlan kernel module is available in the proper way https://review.openstack.org/141899 | 20:50 |
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| prometheanfire | guess I'm not suposed to edit th change-id when I rebase :P | 20:51 |
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| prometheanfire | how do I delete the invalid change-ids? | 20:53 |
| prometheanfire | invalid reviews | 20:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: VMWare LBaaS v2 support https://review.openstack.org/140427 | 20:56 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: hi | 21:07 |
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| marun | re: interface perestroika, is the goal then to extract resource management from the base db plugin, allowing them to be composeable rather than inheritable? | 21:07 |
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| salv-orlando | marun: yes but not for this release. We'd aim to do that with the "reference implementation" a v3 plugin | 21:13 |
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| salv-orlando | it just not that easy to tear apart something like ml2 and make it composeable. We're still too dependent on mixins. | 21:13 |
| marun | salv-orlando: :/ | 21:13 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I guess I misiterpreted the diagram then | 21:13 |
| salv-orlando | marun: no you did not. The point of the resource manager is indeed to make that happen | 21:14 |
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| salv-orlando | but as we're just doing a shim as a part of that plugin, those resource manager will simply be "wrappers" | 21:14 |
| salv-orlando | s/that plugin/that spec/ | 21:15 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: ah, so the resource managers won't be fully implemented just yet, just targets for the pecan controllers? | 21:15 |
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| salv-orlando | marun: pretty much. Obviously markmcclain has the implementation details! | 21:15 |
| marun | salv-orlando: is there code to look? | 21:16 |
| salv-orlando | marun: you should not ask that question to me ;) | 21:16 |
| marun | salv-orlando: :( | 21:16 |
| prometheanfire | how do I close/retract a gerrit review | 21:16 |
| marun | prometheanfire: abandon | 21:16 |
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| prometheanfire | thanks | 21:17 |
| prometheanfire | missed that | 21:17 |
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| anteaya | dougwig: where do you have the instructions for repo splitting from last week? | 21:22 |
| prometheanfire | and now I don't have subunit-trace installed (tox is failing...) | 21:22 |
| dougwig | anteaya: right now, this script, including the comments at the top: https://github.com/dougwig/split-repo/blob/master/service-split.sh | 21:23 |
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| anteaya | this is from doug's oslo split script yes? | 21:28 |
| anteaya | dougwig: ^ | 21:29 |
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| dougwig | yes, modified for the branch/tag stuff that infra wanted. | 21:32 |
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| anteaya | any thoughts about sharing its current state with doug and getting his feedback? | 21:33 |
| anteaya | it would be nice to have it somewhere should the situation of repo split happen again | 21:33 |
| dougwig | yes, of course | 21:33 |
| anteaya | that incorporates branch/tag stuff | 21:33 |
| dougwig | at the octavia mid-cycle, so i'm a touch distracted just now. but i'm all for that. | 21:33 |
| anteaya | dougwig: ah sorry to disturb | 21:34 |
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| dougwig | anteaya: no worries. | 21:34 |
| anteaya | I'll share the link with dhellmann in infra | 21:34 |
| anteaya | so it doesn't get lost | 21:34 |
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| dougwig | ok, thanks. i think the ODL folks used a tweaked version of it to do their vendor decomposition split as well. | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Filtering routers by network-id https://review.openstack.org/140002 | 21:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Smith proposed openstack/neutron: manual add/remove router for dvr_snat agent https://review.openstack.org/122024 | 21:43 |
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| kevinbenton | does anyone know how to list the provider network fields for a network from the cli? | 21:53 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, hi | 22:12 |
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| markmcclain | ZZelle: hi | 22:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Chanda proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce a parameter to config GARP transmission delay https://review.openstack.org/141918 | 22:13 |
| ZZelle | markmcclain, do you have some times to speek about https://review.openstack.org/138201 ? | 22:13 |
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| markmcclain | ZZelle: sure what's up? | 22:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajeev Grover proposed openstack/neutron: Add index generation for IPv6 rules for DVR https://review.openstack.org/134676 | 22:18 |
| ZZelle | markmcclain, currently redhat does not provide in standard repos xtables-addons package | 22:19 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, but it's still possible to install xtables-addons from source | 22:19 |
| ZZelle | markmcclain, that's why we choose to allow disabling/enabling the stateless nat | 22:20 |
| ZZelle | markmcclain, (i don't know for suse) | 22:21 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, and avoid a strong requirement against xtables-addons | 22:22 |
| markmcclain | ZZelle: yeah.. we've typically avoided adding items where the implementation isn't an LTS of the common distros | 22:23 |
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| markmcclain | otherwise it becomes a big docs headache | 22:23 |
| markmcclain | the easiest way to work around it would be to talk with distro reps and see if they'll package it | 22:23 |
| markmcclain | in most cases they'll go along | 22:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Chanda proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce a parameter to config GARP transmission delay https://review.openstack.org/141918 | 22:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Reliable quota enforcement specification https://review.openstack.org/128318 | 22:24 |
| ZZelle | markmcclain, i tested xtables-addons stateless nat and tc stateless nat | 22:24 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, we could also prefer the tc alternative but it implies to introduce a new network techno ... | 22:26 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, both provide different advantages: xtables-addons is easy to understand for the one who understand iptables rules, tc is (?) available on debian/redhat/suse like OS. | 22:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Chanda proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce a parameter to config GARP transmission delay https://review.openstack.org/141918 | 22:35 |
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| manishg | kenvinbenton: can't you just do 'neutron net-show blah' ... that should show provider net attrs too | 22:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Kill oslo-incubator files https://review.openstack.org/141428 | 22:40 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, i am not sure i can on one side integrate xtable-addons with neutron, on the other side discuss with distro reps and meet approval deadline (today?) | 22:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Juergen Brendel proposed openstack/neutron: Close ARP spoofing vulnerability https://review.openstack.org/141130 | 22:55 |
| markmcclain | ZZelle: I'm fine granting a bit of an extension to see if we can get distro buy-in to add package to their optional repos | 22:56 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, ok | 22:58 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: ping | 22:58 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, i will verify first xtable-addons work as expected on trusty ... i am currently testing on precise because of enterprise limitations | 23:02 |
| gus | ZZelle: how infeasible is it to provide both the xtables and tc versions? | 23:03 |
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| gus | I'm just trying to think through what the implementation would look like, and what other things need to be aware of the implementation chosen... | 23:03 |
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| gus | the 'public api' is pretty straightforward: add IP<->IP map and then later delete it. | 23:04 |
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| ZZelle | gus, xtables is quite simple as you replace a DNAT rule by a new table (rawpost) + 2 rules | 23:04 |
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| ZZelle | gus, it's easily understandable when fluent with iptables | 23:05 |
| ZZelle | gus, tc implementation is the opposite :( | 23:06 |
| gus | oh yeah. I agree with your reasons for preferring the iptables implemeentation over tc. | 23:06 |
| gus | I'm just wondering if there's a minimally intrusive way to remove the dependency concerns. (default to iptables, provide tc plugin as well) | 23:07 |
| ZZelle | gus, it's not really readable when not fluent, i perhaps need to do everything from scratch: define a TcManager | 23:07 |
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| gus | (If it's going to make a mess of the iptables implementation and/or other parts then obviously we shouldn't pursue it.) | 23:08 |
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| ZZelle | gus, tc stateless nat won't brake iptables as it moves nat from iptables to tc rule definitions (at most we need to inform iptables not to track packets) | 23:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Unit tests using policy.conf https://review.openstack.org/141932 | 23:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for the brocade lbaas driver based on v2 lbaas data model https://review.openstack.org/141251 | 23:12 |
| ZZelle | gus, but tc implementation seems to be 4x to 10x bigger than xtables one ... and requires a new techno | 23:12 |
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| gus | :( yeah. | 23:14 |
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| gus | You're right, it isn't that important to provide a stateless alternative for curmudgeon distros. | 23:15 |
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| ZZelle | gus, redhat/suse move slower but finally integrate new features (gre/vxlan/ovs/namespace ...) | 23:16 |
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| gus | yeah, I just chose a tongue-in-cheek adjective, no blame intended. | 23:17 |
| gus | I was trying to say: you're right, we may as well only offer the "stateful using iptables" and "stateless using iptables" alternatives. | 23:18 |
| gus | trying to add a 3rd "stateless using tc" option just complicates the entire situation further for minimal gain. | 23:18 |
| gus | and if anyone acutally has issues with the stateful-using-iptables situation then making sure xtables-addons is available isn't exactly the hardest part of deploying openstack. | 23:19 |
| ZZelle | gus, no worry, i cried lots of time because of python 2.4 on CentOS 5 | 23:20 |
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| ZZelle | gus, and python2.4 is middle-age compared to python2.5+ | 23:21 |
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| gus | and there I was feeling happy 2.6 has been abandoned :) | 23:21 |
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| haleyb | mlavalle: pong | 23:24 |
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| * ZZelle testing at home xtables on precise | 23:25 | |
| * ZZelle testing at home xtables on trusty! | 23:25 | |
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| mlavalle | haleyb: I saw the comments you made in the patchset regarding defer_apply_on / off. I intend to submit a patchset soon splitting _process_snat_dnat_for_fip and moving the defer_apply_off to process_router. I am just checking with you that I won't duplicate anything you might be doing already | 23:27 |
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| haleyb | mlavalle: no, i was going to start this morning but saw your comment and did other things. I'll be sure to review it, thanks | 23:28 |
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| mlavalle | haleyb: for the first patchset, I'll just split the method in two and move the defer_apply_off to the process router method. I didn't quite get the with statement that Carl mentioned in his comment. But we can discuss that during the review cycle | 23:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Allow router external IPs to be set https://review.openstack.org/140890 | 23:31 |
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| haleyb | mlavalle: i think he was referring to how the firewall code uses a try:finally in defer_apply(), then uses 'with self.firewall.defer_apply():' | 23:35 |
| * haleyb must go for a bit... | 23:35 | |
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| mlavalle | haleyb: ok, I'll look at that... :-) | 23:41 |
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| ZZelle | gus, it seems xtable 2.3 hates trusty ... it's the 2nd kernel panic i get :s | 23:46 |
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| gus | huh :( | 23:46 |
| gus | that's new xtables kernel modules with an old kernel? | 23:47 |
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| ZZelle | nope, it's the trusty kernel (3.13) with trusty xtables (2.3) ... | 23:52 |
| ZZelle | gus, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xtables-addons/+bug/1286911 ... let's move to 2.5 ... strangely there is xtables 2.3 for kernel 3.13 on fedora | 23:53 |
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