Thursday, 2015-02-19

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jogoodd neutron bug if anyone has a moment00:10
jogofailure in multi node testing00:11
jogohttp://logs.openstack.org/76/156076/8/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-aiopcpu-full/a07df74/logs/testr_results.html.gz00:14
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jogoNotFound: Agent with agent_type=L3 agent and host=00:16
jogomtreinish: ^00:16
mtreinishjogo: is the host in the running the L3 agent?00:16
jogoit has http://logs.openstack.org/76/156076/8/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-aiopcpu-full/a07df74/logs/10.209.131.115-subnode/screen-q-agt.txt.gz00:18
jogois there another agent?00:18
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jogomtreinish: you will love this: http://logs.openstack.org/76/156076/8/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-aiopcpu-full/a07df74/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_2015-02-18_23_41_07_72500:19
jogoceilometer service is causing that one00:20
jogoohh wait00:20
jogothat is the nova call00:20
gusanteaya: ok, caught up.00:21
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openstackgerritSridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Implementation of Brocade Vyatta VPNaaS Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/15472000:27
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jogomtreinish: giving up on the neutron version of this job for now00:28
jogomtreinish: without a neutron core to help debug multinode neutron  that is00:28
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jogogiving up on getting aiopcpu -- the multinode testing job -- with neutron that is00:32
anteayagus: grand00:37
anteayagus: do you have any thoughts00:37
gusI think we're going to continue to flounder without someone from nova working on the project too.00:38
gusI fear the problem is messy, and any solution proposed is going to be messy.  So we need someone (actually two someones) who have looked at the problem hard enough to be able to say "+2 This is the least-worst alternative I've seen"00:39
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anteayaso yes00:39
gusWhile we only get drive-by reviews, we're instead always going to get "-2 this looks messy, do it some other unspecified way"00:40
anteayaI agree we need nova input00:40
anteayawell they other way is specified00:40
openstackgerritShweta P proposed openstack/neutron: Passes the plugin context variable in the ML2 Extension Driver API  https://review.openstack.org/15275900:40
anteayajust so far noone from neutron can accept what it is00:40
anteayawhich adds to the problem00:40
anteayaso after last meeting john garbutt said he is usually awake at the time of the migration meetings00:41
gusright, and we can certainly sink a few months of work into that approach too.00:41
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anteayaand has no problem being pinged and participating00:41
anteayayes00:41
anteayathe nova suggestion of subclassing the api will mean the work won't land until L00:41
gusso that's encouraging.  We should take him up on the offer.00:41
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anteayaso that will be at least a couple of months00:41
anteayayes00:41
gusit was never going to make it into K afaics.00:41
anteayano00:42
anteayaI never thought about releases00:42
anteayaand saw the entire release discussion as a distraction to the real issue00:42
anteayawhich is, how to we find something however small that folks can agree on00:42
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anteayaso right now nova is offering the api subclass direction00:43
gussame.  I think some of the challenges the migration project has had is that it is simply bigger than one release cycle - so trying to get discussion+agreement+implementation kept getting put off until "next cycle".00:43
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anteayawhich I will go shopping tomorrow to see if we can get some nova sponsors for that00:43
anteayabut00:43
anteayaI need to feel we have someone willing to write the api subclass patches if I do find the sponsors00:43
anteayaso far oleg appears to want to pursue the current direction00:44
openstackgerritRonak Shah proposed openstack/neutron: adopt namespace-less oslo imports  https://review.openstack.org/15721400:44
anteayadispite the lack of nova support for it00:44
anteayaright00:44
gusHe's already written it twice, so I can understand his reluctance to go for a 3rd time ;)00:44
anteayaso I am not interested in putting anything off until next cycle00:44
anteayafair enough00:44
anteayahe has to be allowed to make his own choices00:44
anteayahowever I do not know enough to do the api subclassing work00:45
anteayaso there is no sense me advocating for this work if I am the only one around to write it00:45
anteayaso if we focus on L now00:45
anteayaall that happens is we ask for nova sponsors00:45
anteayaif we get them or one anyway00:45
anteayathen we write up nova blueprints and specs for the work00:46
anteayaadding to the api will need a nova spec I imagine00:46
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anteayathen we start working on it and offering patches and tests00:46
anteayathen once L is open we can get some work merged hopefully00:46
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anteayaand if it hasn't gotten due review time prior to summit, to ask for a table on the friday and have a small sprint reviewing the work that is in gerrit thus far00:47
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gusyep, sg.  We'll be able to work on the various changes, and hopefully get useful reviews - we just won't be able to submit until the next waterfall starts.00:47
anteayathat is my plan I am hoping to present at the nova meeting tomorrow00:48
anteayaright00:48
anteayawell we can't merge00:48
anteayawe can submit so the patches can be on gerrit00:48
anteayathey just can't merge until L is open00:48
anteayaand we can't guarentee we have reviewer time00:48
gusyeah, that.00:48
anteayabut it is the path that nova would like to see00:49
anteayaand in my experience, when needing someone's support for something I get good results if I can find it in my heart to do it the way they ask00:49
gusso short of forking nova, I don't think we have any choices here.00:49
anteayaI'm not interested in forking nova00:49
anteayaas I don't see as that suits the larger goal00:50
anteayaand yes, nova has opened one and only one door00:50
gusright, so we have to follow whatever the nova reviewers want to see (and presumably that's for the better anyway).00:50
anteayathey also have said that folks are welcome to bash at the walls, but they will continue to point at the door00:50
anteayathey do know the code base00:50
anteayaas john pointed out at the meeting00:50
gusI guess the "success" point is that we've managed to propose something so offensive that we've finally got a counter-proposal from nova.00:51
gusup until now it's been "write something and then we'll review it"00:51
anteayawell at something to offer at the ops mid-cycle00:52
anteayaright00:52
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anteayaso now at least we have a direction00:52
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anteayaso tomorrow I will find out if we go that route if we can have some sponsors to work with us00:52
gusyep, it is actually progress - but it also shows that we're still deep in the "explore options" stage of the project.00:53
anteayayes00:53
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anteayasomething that takes 18 months of sitting in the corner never has one clear path to resolution00:53
anteayaso glad we can both see progress00:53
gus:)00:54
anteayaokay so thanks00:54
clarkbanteaya: 36 months :) I think this is the start of year 3 in the deprecate nova network project00:54
anteayaI'll bring this to nova and see what they say00:54
anteayaclarkb: awesome00:54
anteayawooo00:54
anteayashould we have an anniversary party I wonder00:54
anteayaoh and apparently tomorrow is chinese new year00:55
clarkbya Tom mentioned that00:55
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anteayacool, I must have missed his mention of it00:55
anteayagus: any other thoughts before I run away?00:56
anteayaor have we caught up?00:56
gusI think we're good.  I'll have a chat with Oleg at some point about his suggestion to leave some of the nova-specific state in nova db.00:56
anteayayes please00:56
anteayawe can continue work on the db migration since that is proposed to the neutron repo00:57
gusMy (possibly unsubstantiated) fear is that we'll end up having to do cross-DB "transactions" which won't be atomic and the failure cases will get messy.00:57
anteayaoh and jakob is away for the month of march00:57
anteayahe will be there next meeting and then away for march00:57
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anteayagus: yes, I don't know enough to weigh in on the db migration portion but we need to end up in a state consistent with what neutron expects when the operator upgrades to the next version of neutron00:58
anteayathe migration needs to close a door, not leave one hanging partially open00:58
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gusindeed, and we're good on that point.  This is just the "extra bits" necessary to keep the remaining nova-net hosts operating during the actual transition.00:59
anteayaokay01:00
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anteayahave a chat with oleg and do make notes in the review about what you decide01:01
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openstackgerritRajeev Grover proposed openstack/neutron: HA for DVR - Neutron Server side code changes  https://review.openstack.org/14316901:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from linuxbridge  https://review.openstack.org/15501401:28
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HenryGotherwiseguy: ping01:31
otherwiseguyHenryG: pong01:31
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HenryGotherwiseguy: where are we with https://review.openstack.org/155212 ?01:32
HenryGotherwiseguy: It looks ready to me, I hope I am not missing something?01:33
otherwiseguyHenryG: It will technically break vpnaas as-is until the second vpnaas patch is applied (which depends on it). There is a small change that could be made to avoid that.01:34
HenryGotherwiseguy: Which is the 2nd vpnaas patch?01:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from AsyncProcess  https://review.openstack.org/15510101:35
otherwiseguyI hadn't applied it and submitted it for review out of some irrational fear that I was going to accidentally reset parent patches that were about to merge. :p01:35
HenryGsorry I search neutron only01:35
otherwiseguyHenryG: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156691/01:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from DHCP agent  https://review.openstack.org/15518801:35
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HenryGotherwiseguy: OK, well the neutron has now merged all up to the L3 agent patch01:37
otherwiseguyIf I add the root_helper option back to RouterInfo, it would keep vpnaas py27 test from breaking until 156691 is applied. Or we can merge the l3 test and immediately merge the 156691 after.01:37
otherwiseguyHenryG: opinions on the way to go?01:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add a functional test that checks HA router is configured on a restarted agent  https://review.openstack.org/15395301:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Check if routing rule exists before adding  https://review.openstack.org/15233001:39
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HenryGotherwiseguy: Leaning towards not breaking things01:41
otherwiseguyk. I'll git-review right now then.01:41
HenryGotherwiseguy: Given that the gate could just decide to be uppity at the wrong time01:41
otherwiseguy(and hope that the change doesn't break something else!)01:41
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/15521201:41
otherwiseguyThose last 3 patches took like 2.5 hours to get through the gate.01:43
HenryGYeah I think something got stuck for a while there01:43
otherwiseguyHenryG: And I notice 155212 doesn't appear to be checking yet.01:44
HenryGwhaaa?01:45
HenryGweird01:45
clarkbnotice that zuul status reports an event backlog01:45
clarkblooks like a large stack is merging which leads to that01:46
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HenryGclarkb: where does one see zuul status?01:46
clarkbhttp://status.openstack.org/zuul/01:46
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HenryGclarkb: I have been staring at that all day :)01:47
HenryGclarkb: I meant where does it show a backlog?01:47
clarkbright up near the top left01:47
clarkbQueue lengths:01:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Explicitly monkey patch VPN agent  https://review.openstack.org/15660201:47
HenryGclarkb: What is a "normal" queue length?01:48
clarkbHenryG: 001:48
HenryGAh, so 2000+ is bad? o_O01:48
clarkbbasically if those numbers both read 0 then zuul is caught up and thats when you worry that changes aren't enqueue01:48
clarkbno its not bad just means zuul is getting those changes merged01:48
clarkbwhich cascades into a large amount of events to process01:49
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HenryGthanks clarkb01:49
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clarkbonce those changes merge it should catch up quickly01:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Moved several services into neutron.cmd.eventlet  https://review.openstack.org/15537401:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Tweak mocking logic for L3 plugin tests  https://review.openstack.org/15465201:52
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HenryGnice01:53
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HenryGotherwiseguy: So vpnaas only uses RouterInfo in unit tests?01:55
otherwiseguyHenryG: I believe so.01:55
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HenryGotherwiseguy: Why can't 156691 go in now?01:59
otherwiseguyIt fails unless l3 patch is merged.01:59
* otherwiseguy doesn't remember the exact error02:00
* HenryG is looking in log02:00
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otherwiseguyTypeError: __init__() takes at least 6 arguments (5 given)02:01
otherwiseguyI'm sure I probably could have divided it up better.02:02
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HenryGit's tricky but we'll figure it out02:05
otherwiseguyBut I *think* things will work ok.02:05
openstackgerritItsuro Oda proposed openstack/neutron: Keep existing services available on agents with admin_state_up False  https://review.openstack.org/14703202:06
HenryGotherwiseguy: yup, it looks right to me02:08
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from linux interface  https://review.openstack.org/15552202:18
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining root_helper args from plugins  https://review.openstack.org/15552302:18
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from sanity checks  https://review.openstack.org/15590502:19
HenryGThat button is nice, isn't it?02:20
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining uses of passing root_helper  https://review.openstack.org/15590602:20
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otherwiseguyHenryG: Yes, yes it is. :)02:22
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otherwiseguyHenryG: I think it might contribute to this: http://stackalytics.com/?metric=patches&module=neutron-group02:23
otherwiseguy:p02:23
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otherwiseguyThe one stat I'm apparently doing well in. ;)02:23
HenryGlol02:23
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add callbacks-based system to Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/15377402:25
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Break coupling between ML2 and L3 during delete operation  https://review.openstack.org/15547002:25
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Break coupling between ML2 and L3 during create/update operations  https://review.openstack.org/15377502:25
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Decouple L3 and service plugins during DVR router migration  https://review.openstack.org/15474902:25
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Decouple L3 and VPN service plugins during router operations  https://review.openstack.org/15377602:25
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HenryGotherwiseguy: Why is 155906 "in merge conflict"?02:26
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otherwiseguyGood question.02:27
otherwiseguyFound pep8 issue in plugin patch, so I'll update that and rebase02:28
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otherwiseguyI cannot express how happy I will be to be done with this patch set. :)02:29
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otherwiseguyThen I can move on to what I was initially supposed to be doing, rootwrap daemon mode.02:33
otherwiseguy(though this should make it much more straight forward)02:33
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining root_helper args from plugins  https://review.openstack.org/15552302:43
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from sanity checks  https://review.openstack.org/15590502:43
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from sanity checks  https://review.openstack.org/15590502:49
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining uses of passing root_helper  https://review.openstack.org/15590602:51
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Create FloatingIP Agent gateway port only if DVR Routers  https://review.openstack.org/15724202:52
openstackgerritAbhishek Raut proposed openstack/neutron: Cisco Nexus1000V ML2 Mechanism Driver  https://review.openstack.org/15724302:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Implementation of Brocade Vyatta VPNaaS Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/15472002:54
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from linux interface  https://review.openstack.org/15552203:09
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining root_helper args from plugins  https://review.openstack.org/15552303:09
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/15521203:09
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining uses of passing root_helper  https://review.openstack.org/15590603:09
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from sanity checks  https://review.openstack.org/15590503:09
otherwiseguyHenryG: ok, fixed merge conflict in the last patch which, as you see the rebase affected the remaining patches. Hopefully I've got everything and tomorrow will be a good day.03:11
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining uses of passing root_helper  https://review.openstack.org/15590603:13
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining uses of passing root_helper  https://review.openstack.org/15590603:52
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openstackgerritTimothy Swanson proposed openstack/neutron: Add MTU selection & advertisement settings to Neutron config  https://review.openstack.org/15373304:05
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openstackgerritAbhishek Raut proposed openstack/neutron: Cisco Nexus1000V ML2 Mechanism Driver  https://review.openstack.org/15724304:19
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: test_l2population: Use a local copy of ofagent mech driver  https://review.openstack.org/15023905:10
openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ofagent: Vendor code decomposition  https://review.openstack.org/14994105:10
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openstackgerritSridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Default route missing for IPv6 subnets in HA Router  https://review.openstack.org/15078705:22
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: test_l2population: Use a fake mech driver instead of ofagent  https://review.openstack.org/15023905:26
openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ofagent: Vendor code decomposition  https://review.openstack.org/14994105:26
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openstackgerritAmandeep proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Ambiguous cli output between "None" and NoneType  https://review.openstack.org/15648905:32
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openstackgerritYushiro FURUKAWA proposed openstack/neutron: Enable to apply policies to resources with special plural  https://review.openstack.org/14599805:55
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yamamotoi often make a typo "neutron" when i mean "neutral" etc.  i guess i need some rest...05:56
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openstackgerritRonak Shah proposed openstack/neutron: adopt namespace-less oslo imports  https://review.openstack.org/15721406:06
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openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/neutron: replaces enumeration method used to get a list of interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/15412806:12
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openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/neutron: replaces enumeration method used to get a list of interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/15412806:24
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openstackgerritYoni Shafrir proposed openstack/neutron: Adding support for Keepalived health check script.  https://review.openstack.org/15656306:35
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Basic subnetpool CRUD  https://review.openstack.org/14869806:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix index name in downgrade 26b54cf9024d migration  https://review.openstack.org/15572307:52
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openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/neutron: replaces enumeration method used to get a list of interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/15412807:54
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openstackgerritYoni Shafrir proposed openstack/neutron: Adding support for Keepalived health check script.  https://review.openstack.org/15656307:58
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openstackgerritIsaku Yamahata proposed openstack/neutron: ml2: extension driver isn't passed dbentry to extension result dict  https://review.openstack.org/12917808:02
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nyechielSridharGaddam: ping08:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Added policy for lbaas v2 agent extension resource  https://review.openstack.org/15505108:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Enable super-on-old-class pylint check  https://review.openstack.org/15198908:27
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ZZellesalv-orlando, hi?09:18
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openstackgerritGandharva proposed openstack/neutron: ovs_neutron_agent should exit gracefully  https://review.openstack.org/15313809:22
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mzbikHi guys I have problem with lbaas plugin in Kilo09:36
mzbikwhen I set service_plugins = lbaas in neutron.conf it blows up09:36
mzbikneutron.common.config ImportError: cannot import name loadbalancer and RuntimeError: Unable to load neutron from configuration file /etc/neutron/api-paste.ini.09:36
mzbikofc I have /etc/neutron/services/neutron-lbaas/lbaas_agent.ini but dont have /etc/neutron/lbaas_agent.ini09:37
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openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/neutron: replaces enumeration method used to get a list of interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/15412809:39
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openstackgerritKobi Samoray proposed openstack/neutron: VMWare NSXv: Add configuration params to nsx.ini  https://review.openstack.org/15730809:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix static strings with labels for DVR  https://review.openstack.org/14356809:59
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openstackgerritYoni Shafrir proposed openstack/neutron: Adding support for Keepalived health check script.  https://review.openstack.org/15656310:02
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mzbikexact same conf works on juno :/10:13
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naggappanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/123046/  -> please let me know if this test case would be required. What is the real time scenario of this10:36
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openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Prevent calling waitall()inside a GreenPool's greenthread  https://review.openstack.org/15732010:45
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trinathsHi, Some doubt regarding iptable-firewall driver. When I terminate a VM, why do still rules exists in chain "neutron-openvswi-sg-chain" ?11:29
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ajoihrachyshka, amotoki , obondarev , what you guys think about items like: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126546/11:31
ajoto provide remote debug to neutron?11:31
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ihrachyshkaajo, it's usually a good thing to have more tools compatible with our code, though this one looks quite invasive; also some issues there (like options not registered thru oslo.config). this is btw a case for moving all monkey_patch() calls into single place.11:36
ihrachyshkaajo, it would be great to see a common mechanism to enable multiple debuggers instead of a specific one.11:38
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ajoihrachyshka, that's true11:41
ajoihrachyshka, could you comment in the review?11:41
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amotokiajo: ihrachyshka: honestly speaking, I am not familiar with debuggers and not sure the detail. which bp is related? there is no link to the spec unfortunately.11:41
ajoamotoki, it's basically letting pydevd to be used to debug service/agents... pydevd connects back to your debug host when cmdline invoked with the debug host arguments11:42
ajohttp://pydev.org/manual_adv_remote_debugger.html11:43
ajoihrachyshka points are very valid11:43
ajothis plays well with the single point monkey patch11:43
ajoand it would be good to support different debug modules, but may be starting by one is a good start11:43
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openstackgerritRoey Chen proposed openstack/neutron: VMWare NSXv: Add configuration params to nsx.ini  https://review.openstack.org/15730811:54
openstackgerritRoey Chen proposed openstack/neutron: VMware NSXv: Add configuration options to nsx.ini  https://review.openstack.org/15734111:54
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rawathi everyone ,11:56
rawati want to deploy neutron on single node using devstack before have to do some interface configuration  i have taken 1 vm with 2 nic card can you guys tell me how i have to configure....11:58
rawati tried with some configuration but i am not able to access instace through ssh11:59
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mzbikrawat, ip netns list12:20
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ZZelleHenryG, hi12:22
HenryGZZelle: hi12:22
mzbikanyone tested neutron-lbaas?12:23
mzbikI cannot configure it in kilo12:23
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ZZelleHenryG, if you have some time, could you look at https://review.openstack.org/147437 ? It seems to be a wayward change :(12:24
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HenryGZZelle: I am not familiar with md proxy but I will take a look.12:28
ZZelleHenryG, thanks, if you have questions, don't hesitate as md proxy behaves differently on dhcp/l3 agents :(12:29
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openstackgerritYushiro FURUKAWA proposed openstack/neutron: Enable to specify context when 'POST' request on unit-test  https://review.openstack.org/15735512:45
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openstackgerritYushiro FURUKAWA proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Insert validation in creating/updating firewall  https://review.openstack.org/14739612:49
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/neutron: Expose Rest Api access to mtu attributes  https://review.openstack.org/15492113:12
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openstackgerritYushiro FURUKAWA proposed openstack/neutron: Enable to specify context on POST requests during unittests  https://review.openstack.org/15735513:34
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HenryGotherwiseguy: good morning13:43
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openstackgerritSridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Default route missing for IPv6 subnets in HA Router  https://review.openstack.org/15078713:48
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otherwiseguyHenryG: Good morning. On to the tempest failures.13:51
HenryGotherwiseguy: ayup13:52
HenryGotherwiseguy: something about the agent configs13:52
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otherwiseguyHenryG: Never easy.13:53
otherwiseguyHenryG: I wish I'd don this *before* we moved things out of tree. :)13:54
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/neutron: VMware: Router Type Extension Support  https://review.openstack.org/15737713:58
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otherwiseguyHenryG: I'd swear I ran into that issue before and fixed it. I wonder if I overwrote it at some point.14:01
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining root_helper args from plugins  https://review.openstack.org/15552314:06
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otherwiseguyHenryG: hopefully fixed. Also, do you ever not work? :)14:06
HenryGI work from home so unfortunately the computer is never far away :(14:08
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otherwiseguyHenryG: same14:11
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from sanity checks  https://review.openstack.org/15590514:17
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining uses of passing root_helper  https://review.openstack.org/15590614:17
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ajomestery, I've been investigating this the last few days: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156566/14:28
rawatfor single node configuration  how i have to configure the interfaces for management and external network14:28
ajoI didn't disclose too loud because I thought it was a bug in the ipset / security groups logic, but ... I'm glad to disclose now that it *isn't* :)14:29
mesteryajo: Nic!14:29
mesterynice14:29
ajomestery: in one of the refactors I added a log message for a condition I supposed shouldn't happen14:29
ajobut... it happens :), as we cleanup empty cache's for local security group info on every pass..14:29
rawati am unable to ping instace from host14:30
ajomestery: then... if some rule references it later, the IP list (or the IPSET) is gone.. so it can't build the rule...14:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Combining sec groups member update RPC calls  https://review.openstack.org/15514514:30
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ajobut actually.. the group was empty, and simple was cleaned up by the garbage collector ;D14:30
ajowhere garbage collector: our logic in the iptables firewall to clean it up14:31
ajo:-)14:31
mesteryajo: Wow, nice work in debugging that one!14:31
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ajomestery: So, I'm going to finally remove the LOG.error message, and explain that on the bug, now that it's totally clear14:31
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mesteryajo: Cool!14:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix usage drop_constraint in 2a1ee2fb59e0 migration  https://review.openstack.org/15573714:33
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Unify logic that determines liveliness of DHCP agent  https://review.openstack.org/15289114:37
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HenryGotherwiseguy: why does ovs agent need to register root_helper conf, but none of the other agents do?14:38
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openstackgerritSandhya Dasu proposed openstack/neutron: Cisco UCS Manager ML2 Mechanism Driver  https://review.openstack.org/15543614:44
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amullerihrachyshka: Installing oslo.rootwrap from pip installs it in both oslo/rootwrap and in oslo_rootwrap, this is to ensure backward comapatability?14:51
amullerihrachyshka: during the transition phase and for stable branches?14:51
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enikanorovkevinbenton: ping15:06
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otherwiseguyHenryG: I left it in because it specifically queries the root_helper variable, testing to see if it is the xen one, to override the default of the ip_lib force froot option.15:10
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otherwiseguyHenryG: it wouldn't technically need to because it imports neutron.agent.linux.utils, but I went with the "if we use it, make sure it's there" philosophy15:11
openstackgerritDane LeBlanc proposed openstack/neutron: Support Dual-Stack Gateway Ports on Neutron Routers  https://review.openstack.org/14906815:12
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ihrachyshkaamuller, right, oslo migrated and left old namespace for a cycle15:16
ihrachyshkaamuller, it just imports stuff from oslo_rootwrap15:16
ihrachyshkaamuller, so it's avail in two places15:16
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ihrachyshkathey will drop it in Liberty15:17
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amullerihrachyshka: ack15:19
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openstackgerritAndrew Boik proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Support multiple IPv6 prefixes on internal router ports  https://review.openstack.org/15636015:20
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HenryGotherwiseguy: got it, thanks!15:23
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otherwiseguyHenryG: The forcing the ip_lib option from inside ovs agent seems weird to me. It seems like if you were going to test for that, you could do it in ip_lib so any plugin/agent that needed the value would have it. But, I'm sure someone had their reasons. I don't have a lot of the context.15:24
HenryGotherwiseguy: Yeah, I was like o_O when I saw it. But let's not touch that for this work.15:25
otherwiseguyHenryG: That was my thinking as well. :)15:26
otherwiseguyI've got enough things to change with that patch set.15:26
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otherwiseguyLooks like the tempest tests are passing. Just one voting test to go...15:27
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Remove error logs for a common situation (non created ipsets)  https://review.openstack.org/15656615:28
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openstackgerritBrent Eagles proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/15667015:38
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openstackgerritTimothy Swanson proposed openstack/neutron: Add MTU selection & advertisement settings to Neutron config  https://review.openstack.org/15373315:41
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ihrachyshkasalv-orlando, hey, need your insight into vmware plugin15:49
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ihrachyshkagaryk, ^^ or yours :)15:50
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Introduce ip address monitor  https://review.openstack.org/14964715:56
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garykihrachyshka: on a call will ping you soon16:04
ihrachyshkatnx16:05
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otherwiseguyHenryG: I need a zuul for Ryu CI that I can stare at...16:11
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HenryGotherwiseguy: You need to see their logs?16:13
otherwiseguyHenryG: I did a recheck since the last patch failed the Ryu CI. And I can't obsessively watch for the test to complete.16:13
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otherwiseguy(a ryu-recheck)16:13
yamahatashwetaap1: I updated my patch which include unit tests based on GBP idea rkukura suggested. can you please take a look at it?16:13
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derekhIs there anybody around that can take a look at this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1421835 that was introduced on friday by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141044/16:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1421835 in neutron "Timeout reached while waiting for callback for node" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Derek Higgins (derekh)16:15
shwetaap1yamahata: sure.16:16
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HenryGotherwiseguy: http://180.37.183.32/ryuci/06/155906/11/check/check-tempest-dsvm-ofagent/2598f38/16:18
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otherwiseguyHenryG: yeah, I just want to see the test that is currently running. :)16:19
HenryGotherwiseguy: You ask for too much :)16:19
otherwiseguyThe failure looked like a timeout and I'm hoping that it was a fluke.16:19
otherwiseguyHenryG: I know. I'm bad like that.16:19
otherwiseguy;)16:19
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openstackgerritKobi Samoray proposed openstack/neutron: VMWare NSXv: Add configuration params to nsx.ini  https://review.openstack.org/15730816:23
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klindgren__Hello all - We recently upgraded from icehouse to juno and since the upgrade Nova-metadata is getting random but frequent errors about hitting a read timeout when calling into neutron.  We increased the neutron timeout from 30 seconds to 120 seconds - but the issue is still happening.  Everything was fine under icehouse.  I am not exactly sure where to start looking but it seems like neutron-api is stopping responding to r16:29
klindgren__equest or not picking stuff up.16:29
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klindgren__We increased the number of workers from 20 - 40 and that didn't help - my gut tells me this is a deadlock issue somehow, we are running 3 api servers and we have well under 120 concurrent connections to neutron.  Maybe a max of 10-2016:31
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Move Floating IP processing to Router classes  https://review.openstack.org/14286316:31
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otherwiseguyHenryG: Actually, I think the ryu tests will not pass until l3 patch merges + *aas stuff that depends on the l3 patch. I don't think they are handling Depends-On?16:35
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otherwiseguymestery: if you have a chance to look at https://review.openstack.org/155212 (and if you want the next 3 patches in chain that are V+1), they should be ready.16:38
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mesteryotherwiseguy: On it!16:38
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garykihrachyshka: at your service. whats up?16:40
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ihrachyshkagaryk, right. so I'm trying to nail down remaining bits in neutron that explicitly monkey patch stdlib on import; one of those is neutron/plugins/vmware/api_client/eventlet_client.py which is something that is imported by neutron-check-nsx-config tool. I wonder what's that about, why it explicitly patches the library, and not the tool, and in the end whether the tool actually needs to be monkey patched.16:42
garykihrachyshka: hmm. i suggest talking with salv-orlando or arosen about this one. they are more familiar with that code than i am.16:43
ihrachyshkagaryk, ok, thanks for your time, I'll wait for them :)16:43
garykok, thanks16:43
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Mock link local allocator write so UT doesn't write a file  https://review.openstack.org/15744316:48
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Move Floating IP processing to Router classes  https://review.openstack.org/14286316:52
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openstackgerritRoey Chen proposed openstack/neutron: VMware NSXv: Add configuration options to nsx.ini  https://review.openstack.org/15734116:54
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palWhat is the difference in openstack and devstack?16:55
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garykpal: devstack is a tool to help install and run openstack components.16:59
garykas they say in the hood - it worked on devstack16:59
openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Introduce ip address monitor  https://review.openstack.org/14964716:59
palgaryk: It means  if I install devstack then openstack services can be used?17:01
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garykpal: please see http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/17:02
palokay17:02
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mriedemderp, rechecked a bug into the gate https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/142362417:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1423624 in neutron "gate-neutron-dsvm-functional intermittently failing with rpc timeouts" [Undecided,New]17:07
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mriedemsince gate-neutron-dsvm-functional is voting i expect to see that start failing more on other neutron changes17:08
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mriedemso the neutron functional tests probably need more than a 5 second timeout for eventlet it looks like17:09
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amullermriedem: it has a 90 seconds timeout, why 5?17:10
jschwarzamuller, ^ - didn't you say you knew the solution here?17:10
jschwarzah :)17:10
mriedemamuller: because http://logs.openstack.org/14/155014/12/gate/gate-neutron-dsvm-functional/11e1f80/console.html#_2015-02-18_19_17_38_27517:10
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mriedemRuntimeError: No output in 5.00 seconds17:10
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amullerhuh, I'll have to look at this17:11
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Move entry points for plugin agents into neutron.cmd.eventlet  https://review.openstack.org/15541217:13
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: devref: added guidelines to maintain service entry points  https://review.openstack.org/15745217:13
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: wsgi: remove explicit monkey_patch() call  https://review.openstack.org/15745317:13
mriedemrussellb: you love a good rpc timeout race problem ^17:14
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ihrachyshkaarmax, ^^ some more monkey patches (wsgi + devref)17:17
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armaxihrachyshka: looking17:17
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ajoarmax, amuller , ihrachyshka , HenryG , if you have some seconds to look at this, we could remove a sh*tload of useless ERROR log messages from the gate17:22
armaxajo: If I only had a second!17:22
ajoit was me who added the message, and I've verified (across to days) that it's meaningless17:22
ajo:)17:22
ajoarmax :-) no rush17:22
armaxajo: what’s the error?17:23
ihrachyshkaajo, I looked at the patch, but really, I know nothing about l2 agent (almost)17:23
pradip_vedamshi everyone,17:23
ihrachyshkaajo, hence no comments/votes17:23
jschwarzajo, link?17:23
ajoah17:23
ajosorry guys X)17:23
pradip_vedamsi am unable to access vm through ssh17:23
ajohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/156566/17:24
ajoclipboard cheated me17:24
ajo;)17:24
ajoarmax, jschwarz  ^17:24
pradip_vedamswhat network configuration i have to go through17:24
jschwarzajo, shame on the clipboard!17:24
jschwarzajo, lets fire it!17:24
pradip_vedamshi i want to setup single node neutron can any one help me ..?17:25
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pradip_vedamsusing devstak17:25
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HenryGajo: You really should put a space after # for comments. ;)17:47
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HenryGajo: really good find, thanks for that17:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/15521217:49
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jaypipeskevinbenton: heya, when is the neutron feature freeze?17:50
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openstackgerritMike Kolesnik proposed openstack/neutron: Treat HA routers differently with l2pop  https://review.openstack.org/14111417:52
openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/neutron: Expose Rest Api access to mtu attributes  https://review.openstack.org/15492117:52
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HenryGjaypipes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule17:53
jaypipesthx HenryG!17:53
otherwiseguydougwig: speaking of enforcing API contracts, my static-type-loving little heart really likes this: https://andreacensi.github.io/contracts/ :)17:53
HenryGThat's for all projects I guess, but I think Neutron follows it. So March 5.17:54
HenryGjaypipes: ^^17:54
jaypipesk, thx!17:54
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pradip_vedamscan any one tell me how many interfaces needed for sigale node neutron installation.17:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from linux interface  https://review.openstack.org/15552217:58
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* otherwiseguy growls at merge failures18:00
otherwiseguyat least the l3 change made it.18:00
HenryGyeah, what's up with 905?18:01
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otherwiseguySome other patch changed something near my change I guess.18:02
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/neutron: VMware: Router Type Extension Support  https://review.openstack.org/15737718:02
HenryGaren't you lucky18:02
otherwiseguyHenryG: Yes, yes I am. I'm sure it'll be an easy fix.18:03
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otherwiseguyHenryG: whatever it was, it wasn't serious enough to keep git from just merging it without informing me what the problem was.18:06
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dougwigotherwiseguy: oh, i like that.18:07
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining root_helper args from plugins  https://review.openstack.org/15552318:07
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from sanity checks  https://review.openstack.org/15590518:08
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Remove remaining root_helper references  https://review.openstack.org/15669118:08
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Stop storing and passing root_helper  https://review.openstack.org/15669218:09
dougwigHenryG, jaypipes - 3/5 is the submission deadline.  i think the freeze is a week later.18:09
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining uses of passing root_helper  https://review.openstack.org/15590618:11
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jaypipesdougwig: cheers18:14
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otherwiseguydougwig: I like that that contracts code can be reduced to a no-op at runtime, so basically only use it during testing, etc.18:16
otherwiseguyNow, I haven't ever actually *used* it, so for all I know it could set kittens on fire in real life.18:17
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dougwigotherwiseguy: lol.  when the lib work starts, i definitely want a more compact way to do the interface testing.  was also going to look at how some other openstack projects did it.18:20
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otherwiseguydougwig: I hadn't looked at the underlying code, but wondered whether it would even be possible to do some fuzz-testing with the contract definitions. i.e. generate ranges of valid input, ensure it works or ensure that data outside of the range fails consistently, etc.18:22
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pc_mdougwig: ping18:27
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Introduce ip address monitor  https://review.openstack.org/14964718:33
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Move Floating IP processing to Router classes  https://review.openstack.org/14286318:52
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jesusaurusim trying to use the neutron client, but it keeps complaining about needing to provide a token, why isnt it able to auth on its own?19:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove error logs for a common situation (non created ipsets)  https://review.openstack.org/15656619:07
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openstackgerritRajeev Grover proposed openstack/neutron: HA for DVR - Neutron Server side code changes  https://review.openstack.org/14316919:09
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otherwiseguyHenryG: So I'm seeing pylint failures on the patches? Something about neutron.notifiers.nova?! https://jenkins06.openstack.org/job/gate-neutron-pylint/1248/console19:21
openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: WIP - Introduce ip address monitor  https://review.openstack.org/14964719:21
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otherwiseguyIn fact, it looks like *all* neutron tests are failing pylint.19:26
otherwiseguys/tests/patches/19:26
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: ping19:38
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: The test failures in the fip namespace patch set are due to the patch it depends on.19:38
amullermarun: When tox builds the dsvm-functional venv, does it download oslo libraries from pip or from gerrit HEAD?19:38
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: Do you want me to rebase?  Or, are you in the middle of something?19:39
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marunarmax: pip19:39
marunamuller: pip19:39
marun(sorry armax)19:39
marunamuller: same as the gate19:39
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marunamuller: same as the unit tests19:39
marunamuller: that the tempest tests validate from master is more than a little bit bonkers19:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: ML2: remove underscore from public method  https://review.openstack.org/15712019:40
amullermarun: so how can I debug rootwrap issues... I pushed a change to oslo rootwrap that adds a bunch of debug lines, then made my neutron change depend on it, but I don't see my changes. If it installs oslo rootwrap from pip that explains it...19:40
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marunamuller: what kind of a rootwrap issue?19:40
amullerhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/149647/19:41
marunamuller: /url 119:41
amullerkilling the ip monitor doesn't work, no filter matched19:41
marunamuller: and is this only in the gate or local too?19:42
amulleronly gate19:42
amullerit's deterministic at least19:42
otherwiseguyYeah, so the new novaclient release has completely broken our gate because of pylint. novaclient.v1_1 was deprecated in a way that breaks pylint.19:43
marunotherwiseguy: I'd be happy to see the pylint job die19:43
marunotherwiseguy: but that's just me19:43
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marunamuller: hmmm, so rootwrap must be happy to kill ip netns-invoked commands if it's working locally19:44
marunamuller: although...19:45
marunamuller: you've run the setup script that installs the functional-specific sudoers file?19:45
marunamuller: what do you see in /etc/sudoers.d?19:45
amullerI have the 50 and 60 scripts19:45
marunamuller: and you're running ubuntu or fedora locally?19:46
amullerfedora19:46
marunamuller: erm19:46
marunamuller: if you have a problem in the gate, and you can't reproduce on fedora19:46
marunamuller: the next step should be local reproduction on ubuntu19:46
marunamuller: it's the cost of doing upstream development, I'm afraid19:47
amullerI don't know what difference would there be between fedora and ubuntu in this case19:48
marunamuller: if you can can't reproduce locally with ubuntu, then you know it's the gate that's the issue19:48
marunamuller: if you can reproduce, then you have a local env to debug the problem19:48
marunamuller: either way, it's a useful datapoint19:49
marunamuller: but to you question about installing any package from master into a venv...19:49
marunamuller: we do that for tempest in the api job19:49
marunhttps://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/contrib/post_test_hook.sh#L3119:49
marunamuller: you can manually manipulate the target venv by using the venv's pip19:50
amulleraye, I know19:51
amullerthat's what I did locally to test with changes in oslo rootwrap19:51
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marunamuller: are you doing something new or different?  I'm assuming no, but I'm not sure why this would be failing otherwise.19:52
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amullermarun: I don't know. We are successfully killing processes started in namespaces. I don't know why 'ip' would be different.19:53
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marunamuller: well, ip netns is a special case19:53
marunamuller: it's the hole in rootwrap19:53
marunamuller: we already have to work around the ipnetns filter's inability to resolve commands to the exec_path by setting the secure_path appropriately19:54
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marunamuller: it's possible that a workaround might be required on the kill side of rootwrap as well19:54
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amullerwhat's the difference though between started keepalived in a namespace and killing it, or starting 'ip monitor' in a namespace and killing it19:55
amullerstarting*19:55
marunamuller: the fact that it's the 'ip' command might be part of it19:55
marunamuller: but I'm just guessing.  I know it's a weakspot in rootwrap is all.19:56
amullersince it's working locally... staring at the rootwrap code isn't doing it for me19:57
amullerbooting a fresh VM, hopefully they have ubuntu in the PXE server19:57
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amullerthey have memtest and RHEL 5 but they don't have ubuntu. Off to download some ubuntu image... I don't even know what version works with openstack properly19:59
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amuller14.04 or 14.10?20:00
amullermarun: Do you know what the gate uses?20:00
marun14.0420:01
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marunamuller: local kvm managed by vagrant ftw20:01
amulleryeah I'll probably do that once my desktop arrives20:02
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: I just came back from lunch. I can rebase it within the next hour, unless you already did it20:06
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: I have not done it yet.  I wanted to be sure the tests passed on the patch before it before rebasing it to the latest version.20:06
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otherwiseguymarun: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157507/20:07
mlavallecarl_baldwin: should I do it?20:07
otherwiseguymarun: (that patch disables pylint test, at least for now and they'd like to have at least some core feedback before accepting it) :)20:08
otherwiseguyas opposed to some random guy like me. ;)20:08
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otherwiseguyHenryG: dougwig: ^ as well (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157507/)20:08
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Jenkins is nearly finished with the patch before it.  Let’s wait to be sure we have a good base to rebase to.20:09
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: ok, i'll keep an eye on it20:09
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marunotherwiseguy: so is the idea that we have to land a fix that reflects the changes to novaclient?20:10
marunotherwiseguy: and then pylint could be re-enabled?20:10
otherwiseguymarun: yeah.20:11
marunotherwiseguy: ok20:11
otherwiseguySeems faster to get the zuul change through the gate. :)20:11
jesusauruswhy would neutronclient be complaining about needing a token at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-neutronclient/tree/neutronclient/shell.py?id=2.3.10#n709 ? shouldn't it be getting a token on its own?20:11
marunotherwiseguy: how complicated is the breakage?20:11
otherwiseguymarun: it really is only breaking pylint20:12
otherwiseguyThey override system.modules to alias v1_1 to v2.20:12
otherwiseguyAnd do a deprecation warning.20:12
mlavallecarl_baldwin, amuller: I followed up with Rajeev in regards to the comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147744/18/neutron/agent/l3/dvr_snat_ns.py. He supported the idea of changing internal_network_added in the agent, so internal subnets are connected to the snat namespace only if the gateway has already been added20:12
otherwiseguyThey added a get_client_class() function that we can use.20:12
marunotherwiseguy: so it's a non-functional problem20:12
otherwiseguymarun: yep, just "fucking up our shit"20:12
marunotherwiseguy: I don't honestly know what pylint buys us20:12
marunotherwiseguy: I never run it, and it never seems to fail.  until now, on something pointless.20:12
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otherwiseguymarun: Not sure. It seems like I've broken it before on something...but don't remember what.20:13
marunmestery: why do we run pylint exactly?20:14
otherwiseguyI'm mostly interested in the temporary fix so I can actually get my patches merged. :)20:14
amullermarun: well our pylint exception list is miles long20:14
mesterymarun: Because we're masochists?20:14
amullerI don't think *more* static code analysis is a bad thing, even if it currently never catches anything20:14
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Is your plan to address that in this patch or in a follow-on?20:14
mesterySeriously, I can't quite recall who enabled that.20:14
amullermarun: instead of disabling it, we should work on removing exceptions20:15
marunmestery: It's on the tip of my tongue20:15
marunamuller: why is it important exactly?20:15
mesterymarun: Was it gus?20:15
marunamuller: why wouldn't that effort be better spent on, oh I don't know, working on better design and testing?20:15
otherwiseguyamuller: except for right now, which is breaking the whole gate, right? :)20:15
marunamuller: low-level validation buys us very little20:15
mlavallecarl_baldwin: In a follow up patchset. I want to interfere as little as possible with what we have in the pipeline20:15
marunmestery: I think gus, yeah.20:15
otherwiseguyjust a couple of comments over there -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157507/20:15
carl_baldwinmlavalle: ok20:15
otherwiseguygo, go, go. :p20:15
marungus: so, why exactly do we need pylint again?20:16
amullerotherwiseguy: the functional gate broke down a few times in the past, should we disable that as well?20:16
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: I heard you loud and clear this morning: we don't really have much time left for k-3 :-)20:16
carl_baldwin:)20:16
otherwiseguyamuller: this is just because of an actual non-function breakage from a third party library. I'm all for re-enabling it after we can get a change through our gate. :)20:16
marunmestery: please chime in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157507/20:17
* otherwiseguy generally likes static analysis except when he doesn't20:17
marunmestery: unless you'd rather we pursued a fix instead.  it'll take longer to land, though.20:17
mesterymarun: looking20:17
* otherwiseguy can probably get a fix written pretty quickly, but we're looking at hours of downtime20:18
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marunamuller: do you have a sense what pylint buys us over flake8+hacking+testing?20:19
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dougwigmarun: most of the good stuff in pylint is currently disabled, due to the state of the codebase.20:23
marundougwig: good == what?20:23
amullermarun: dougwig: Hopefully... I'm playing around with it now20:23
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marundougwig: again, I'm not sure our immediate problem has much to do with anything static analysis is going to do for us20:24
lifelessmarun: catching unused variables and parameters is valuable. In a review I did of recent nova bugs, ~ 2% would have been caught by a code linter (such as pylint)20:25
marundougwig: did I say problem, singular?  I guess I'm an optimist at heart.  ;)20:25
marunlifeless: 2%20:25
marunlifeless: that's pretty near useless imho20:25
dougwigi'm not objecting to non-voting.  i recently enabled almost all of pylint's checks in the lbaas repo, though admittedly it found nothing of substance.  if you look in neutron/.pylintrc, what's listed there is what is *disabled*, and some of those checks are nice.20:25
marunlifeless: better testing would catch way more20:25
marunlifeless: to say nothing of better design20:25
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lifelessmarun: thats certainly an argumen that people put forward20:26
kevinbentonmarun: 2% is better than 0%20:26
marundougwig: I'd like to be convinced, to be sure.  But static analysis can only buy so much for a dynamic language.20:26
marunkevinbenton: depends on the effort involved20:26
amullermarun: We're currently putting in nearly zero effort with respect to the pylint job20:26
dougwigisn't pylint a dynamic analyzer?  flake8 is static.20:26
kevinbentonmarun: have you put a lot of effort into pylint?20:26
lifelessmarun: but this isn't 2% against an untested unreviewed undesigned app's bugs, its 2% against a heavily tested mature application with lots and lots of review20:27
lifelessmarun: and things can and do sneak through.20:27
marunlifeless: heavily tested, really?20:27
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Fix pylint breaking from novaclient v1_1/v2 rename  https://review.openstack.org/15751720:27
* otherwiseguy has no idea if that actually works20:27
dougwigit needs to be a cost/benefit.  if it's cheap and helps find newbie errors, it reduces reviewer load.  if it's costing time or gate or bugs, it can quickly become a waste.20:28
marunlifeless: You've seen testing done effectively in bzr.  I'm not sure the same claim can be made for any openstack project that I"ve seen.20:28
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otherwiseguyJust a quick read through the novaclient code. Could break the world for all I know.20:28
lifelessmarun: well, yes :)20:28
marunkevinbenton: I spend more time yak shaving with you, to be honest.20:29
dougwigi was surprised that pylint was a gate job, btw.  as a check job, maybe.  why it wasn't just run as a step in the mis-named pep8 job, i also don't know.20:29
marundougwig: we gotta spend our vm's somehow, dontcha know!  burnin' a hole in our pockets!20:29
kevinbentonmarun: then why do you care about pylint? how about this, when we have good testing, remove pylint. :)20:30
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marunkevinbenton: because I like provoking you, isn't it obvious?  You never call anymore!20:30
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Go ahead and rebase.  The only failure was the pylint thing that was just discussed.20:30
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: WIP Move port processing to router classes  https://review.openstack.org/15451320:30
mlavallecarl_baldwin: ok, thanks20:30
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carl_baldwinTry the gerrit rebase button first.  If that doesn’t work, rebase to the latest version of the previous patch (5a7e0d41)20:31
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marunkevinbenton: but really, if pylint's static analysis is going to discover 'problems' that work fine at runtime, complicated attempts by projects like novaclient to make backwards-compatible changes, I think its utility is called into question.20:34
amullermarun: this took me 5 minutes... I removed all of the error level pylint exceptions20:34
amullercheck this out...20:34
amullerhttps://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/l2pop/mech_driver.py#L11020:35
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amullerthere's a typo in the exception type20:35
amullerthat exception type doesn't actually exist20:35
marunamuller: of course, that tells us that whoever merged this code didn't do their job in ensuring good coverage20:36
otherwiseguyamuller: nice :)20:36
dougwigmarun: not all of its checks are of equal value.  the one that finds shadowed names is super handy, and flake8 would make that really hard.  similarly things like checking that children method signatures match and such.  disable like mad the silly ones, for sure.20:36
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otherwiseguyamuller: I remember some code that was catching an exception only thrown by processutils.execute -- which we don't use.20:37
amullerotherwiseguy: yeah I remember that patch20:37
marunno substitute for good testing, is all...20:37
amullermarun: pylint and more testing are not mutually exclusive20:38
marunamuller: apparently it is20:38
amullermarun: Are you under a bridge right now? =D20:39
dougwigadmittedly, it finds bugs that any decent unit test should uncover, which lands us right back in 'what is good testing versus what is our real-world today' land.  it's a crutch for bad coverage. and it's a dynamic checker, not static.20:39
marunI pretty much think anything that allows us to tolerate a lower standard of testing because we have 'static analysis' on our side is foolish.20:39
marunI'd rather people recognize the need for good testing20:39
marunThen the only thing that static analysis actually buys is 'you don't use that'20:39
marunand frankly, the value in that is minimal20:40
marunnot zero, but minimal20:40
otherwiseguymarun: If only we could use some kind of thing that would automatically look at our code and make sure that certain classes of errors, like getting a kind of value you didn't expect, could be caught even without writing a test.20:41
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marunotherwiseguy had better run!20:41
amullerhah20:41
dougwigmarun: i view it as a stopgap, not a substitute. i'd rather having something while we get better tests than nothing.20:41
marundougwig: as I said - crutch20:41
otherwiseguyI've suggested time and again that people just stop writing bugs. Nobody listens.20:41
dougwigmarun: i said crutch first.  :)20:41
marundougwig: I'd prefer folks to limp in as much pain as possible, but I'm a sadist :)20:41
dougwiglol20:41
marunotherwiseguy: I've suggested time and again that people just stop writing *features* Nobody listens.20:42
dougwigthat just pushes the burden on code review, and we're too f'ing human.20:42
marun(fixed that for you, you're welcome)20:42
marundougwig: I can't agree.20:42
marundougwig: code that is well-written is not that hard to test20:42
marundougwig: or to review, for that matter20:42
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/neutron: replaces enumeration method used to get a list of interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/15412820:42
marundougwig: but we do have to work with what we have, so your point is taken.20:43
dougwigheaping huge pre-assumption in that statement.  we'd have to get to that promised land first.20:43
ihrachyshkamarun, I'm a champion in not writing a single feature this cycle. yay, where's my medal20:43
otherwiseguymarun: "I can't agree". That would make a good epitaph. ;)20:44
marunihrachyshka: the medal is definitely in the mail! :D20:44
dougwigotherwiseguy: lol20:44
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Fix pylint breaking from novaclient v1_1/v2 rename  https://review.openstack.org/15751720:53
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: I am working on the conflicts. it seems really easy. while editing agent.py, my pep8 checker found an indentation error in line 839. It has nothing to do with our changes. Is it ok if I fix it?20:58
carl_baldwinmlavalle: I wouldn’t fix it if it is not introduced by the patch.20:59
mlavallecarl_baldwin: ok20:59
lifelessso apparently flake8 does some static analysis, and is likely enough for the stuff I was worried about.21:00
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HenryGcarl_baldwin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155212/13/neutron/agent/l3/router_info.py21:04
HenryGcarl_baldwin: What UTs did you expect to break?21:04
otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: also, I think I went in and actually fixed all of the UTs in the *aaS before it merged.21:05
carl_baldwinHenryG: The test_*_router.py ones.  They were providing positional arguments in the wrong order after this change.  The likely explanation is that the arguments were faked anyway and didn’t matter in any of the tests in question.21:06
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otherwiseguyhmm...21:06
openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Make some auth error messages more verbose  https://review.openstack.org/15752521:07
otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: $ find neutron/tests/unit/ -name test*router*.py|xargs grep -l RouterInfo21:09
otherwiseguyneutron/tests/unit/agent/l3/test_router_info.py21:09
carl_baldwinHenryG: otherwiseguy:  I wouldn’t worry about it.  I’ll get it straightened out.21:09
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carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: The tests were create sub-classes of RouterInfo.  For example:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155212/13/neutron/agent/l3/router_info.py21:10
carl_baldwin^ Wrong file.21:10
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HenryGcarl_baldwin: I worry because I reviewed it and didn't spot any wrong usages21:11
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: docs: multiple updates to make documentation non-obsolete  https://review.openstack.org/15752621:12
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HenryGcarl_baldwin: They all seem to use only the first two args, followed by named args or **kwargs21:12
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ihrachyshkaarmax, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157526/ tell me whether something of it should be split in separate patches. I was lazy to do it, and hope it can go in single piece.21:16
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: devref: added guidelines to maintain service entry points  https://review.openstack.org/15745221:18
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: wsgi: remove explicit monkey_patch() call  https://review.openstack.org/15745321:18
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Move entry points for plugin agents into neutron.cmd.eventlet  https://review.openstack.org/15541221:18
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carl_baldwinHenryG: I’m not concerned at the moment.  I just mentioned it because I thought it was odd that they *didn’t* fail.  They would be hard to spot because the tests instantiate sub-classes of RouterInfo which pass the arguments with **kwargs.21:19
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carl_baldwinHenryG: And, you know what.  The tests I’m thinking of might not have merged yet.  I’m confusing merged and non-merged code.21:20
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: I know I got a lot of RouterInfo test failures during development that I fixed as I went.21:20
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carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: ^21:21
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carl_baldwinHenryG: otherwiseguy:  Basically, I’m just lost in a chain of dependent patches.  So, disregard my comment altogether.21:24
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HenryGcarl_baldwin: No problem. In code it pays to be paranoid.21:25
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carl_baldwinHenryG: I replied to my own comment on the patch.  :-!21:26
HenryGcarl_baldwin: :)21:28
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HenryGcarl_baldwin: I re-checked all the existing calls and they still look fine.21:28
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openstackgerritAbhishek Raut proposed openstack/neutron: Cisco Nexus1000V ML2 Mechanism Driver  https://review.openstack.org/15724321:28
HenryGcarl_baldwin: But how did this work *before* the change?! https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/unit/test_dvr_router.py#L3621:29
carl_baldwinSorry to put you through that.  I think the problem was entirely behind my keyboard.21:29
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carl_baldwinHenryG: That is a new question.21:29
otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: I can certainly sympathize with being lost in a chain of dependent patches. :)21:29
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openstackgerritMiguel Lavalle proposed openstack/neutron: Move Floating IP processing to Router classes  https://review.openstack.org/14286321:47
openstackgerritMiguel Lavalle proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor management of namespaces in the L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/14774421:47
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Fix type of exception in ml2 l2pop  https://review.openstack.org/15754521:54
amullermarun: mestery: ^21:54
mesteryamuller: Looking21:55
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Create/Delete FIP Agent gateway port only if DVR Routers  https://review.openstack.org/15724221:57
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amullermestery: eek, gerrit downtime22:02
amullerwell, I'm off :)22:02
mesteryamuller: later :)22:02
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HenryGbah22:02
jamielennoxmestery: thanks for the client release22:03
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mesteryjamielennox: yw, sorry it took so long22:04
jamielennoxmestery: np22:05
jamielennoxnovaclient release as well - it's like christmas22:06
openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/neutron: Remove versioning import of novaclient  https://review.openstack.org/15290722:06
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Fix pylint breaking from novaclient v1_1/v2 rename  https://review.openstack.org/15751722:11
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Change linux/ip_lib code to better handle address families  https://review.openstack.org/15755522:18
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/neutron: Fixes regression with multiple external routers and floating ips.  https://review.openstack.org/15716722:20
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Enable removing references to self.services_sync in l3 agent  https://review.openstack.org/15755722:20
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Remove reference to self.services_sync  https://review.openstack.org/15755922:22
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Fix pylint error due to novaclient v1_1/v2 rename  https://review.openstack.org/15756022:23
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: What version of git review are you running?22:24
carl_baldwinmlavalle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142863/5922:25
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Stop storing and passing root_helper  https://review.openstack.org/15669222:25
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Move Floating IP processing to Router classes  https://review.openstack.org/14286322:32
carl_baldwinmlavalle: I’m going to rebase yours again.22:34
otherwiseguyHenryG: fwaas pylint failing as well since it uses novaclient. Have patch to fix that and made it a dependency of https://review.openstack.org/156692 which needs to merge before the last neutron root_helper patch. Hopefully no more hiccups. Have to go pick Sarah up from work, but will be back.22:34
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor management of namespaces in the L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/14774422:39
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: ping22:41
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Remove reference to self.services_sync  https://review.openstack.org/15755922:44
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add callbacks-based system to Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/15377423:05
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Decouple L3 and service plugins during DVR router migration  https://review.openstack.org/15474923:05
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Decouple L3 and VPN service plugins during router operations  https://review.openstack.org/15377623:05
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron: Flavor Framework implementation  https://review.openstack.org/13975823:12
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron: Flavor Framework implementation  https://review.openstack.org/13975823:14
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jogoyou broke icehouse23:35
jogohttp://logs.openstack.org/53/157553/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full-icehouse/6c63b71//logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-02-19_22_21_21_41923:35
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: WIP Subnet allocation from a subnet pool  https://review.openstack.org/15759723:40
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mesteryjogo: *sigh*, sorry man. And I have some family activites tonight to boot. :(23:40
mesteryjogo: At least it's not a Friday.23:40
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jogomestery: good news is its an easy fix.23:41
jogochange the cap in icehouse23:41
mesteryjogo: Whew!23:41
mesteryjogo: Thanks for your guidance here, much appreciated!23:41
mesteryjogo: Do you ahve a review posted yet?23:41
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mesteryjogo: Gotta run, thanks for this!23:42
openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: WIP Subnet allocation from a subnet pool  https://review.openstack.org/15759723:42
HenryGmestery: I will help jogo with the fix23:42
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Enable plylint bad-super-call  https://review.openstack.org/15759923:45
jogoHenryG mestery: I explained on the ML what to do.23:46
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jogoI am happy to advice but you break, you fix23:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Improve robustness of network failover  https://review.openstack.org/15257623:49
HenryGjogo: Of course I will do the fix but please advise since I am no dependency expert. Do I need to cap the neutronclient<2.3.11 in global-requirements icehouse branch?23:52
jogoHenryG: yes, for stable/icehouse23:52
jogoHenryG: that is exactly it23:52
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HenryGjogo: Will do. Is there a bug filed?23:53
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jogoHenryG: no. so you should file one23:53
HenryGjogo: ok23:54
jogoHenryG: bbiab23:54
mesterythanks HenryG and jogo! OK gotta go pick kids up now :)23:54
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