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| gus | kevinbenton: you left a 'ping' for me in -meeting? | 00:24 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: yeah, was going to see if you wanted to bring up the rootwrap stuff to bring attention to it for the summit | 00:24 |
| gus | (The neutron meetings are either crazy-o'clock, or conflict with me driving my daughter in to school :/ ) | 00:24 |
| gus | kevinbenton: yeah I would like to. | 00:25 |
| kevinbenton | gus: well it's too late now, you'll have to wait until the next summit :) | 00:25 |
| gus | Mostly I need to talk over a bunch of the details with the security folks. | 00:26 |
| kevinbenton | gus: makes sense. can you ping me if you get a time ironed out for that? I'm interested in their thoughts | 00:26 |
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| gus | kevinbenton: ;-) I don't think I'm ready to bring it to a wide discussion yet anyway. I want to make sure ossg is happy with it, and I have a good migration story worked out. | 00:27 |
| gus | yeah, I'll certainly be talking to people about it and collecting thoughts. | 00:27 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: i found out the other day that you can just set root_helper to 'sudo' and that seems to eliminate the performance issues :) | 00:28 |
| kevinbenton | gus: can your approach beat that? | 00:28 |
| gus | fwiw, privsep is about 20x faster than a simple exec of ip - and that's without adding the sudo and rootwrap (daemon or not) overhead. | 00:29 |
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| gus | but of course: correctness before performance. privsep removes many classes of bug/exploit. | 00:29 |
| kevinbenton | gus: impressive, what's the comm channel between the main proc? unix socket? | 00:30 |
| gus | yeah, unix socket. | 00:30 |
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| gus | but the main wins (in both speed and safety) come from using netlink directly (via pyroute2) rather than exec'ing ip (and groping its output) all the time. | 00:32 |
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| kevinbenton | i'm not sure how i feel about the phrase 'groping its output' | 00:32 |
| kevinbenton | does pyroute2 use calls into a C library for that? | 00:33 |
| gus | I was intending to communicate just how horrible that form of programmatic interface is ;) | 00:33 |
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| gus | no, its all python. pyroute2 just opens a netlink socket via regular socket.socket(AF_NETLINK) and then does the netlink binary pack/unpack in python code. | 00:34 |
| gus | almost all the messages we're sending are *tiny* so usually the communication is dwarfed by the ip exec overhead. | 00:34 |
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| gus | .. and the regex parsing of output. | 00:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Add logging of agent heartbeats https://review.openstack.org/181132 | 00:36 |
| kevinbenton | gus: excellent | 00:37 |
| kevinbenton | gus: so do you have any issues that you've run into so far? | 00:37 |
| kevinbenton | gus: or do you just need the ossg guys to rain on your parade? | 00:37 |
| gus | I did have to do a small amount of monkeypatching to get it to work with eventlet (the gift that keeps on giving) - since the python socket.socket class has various levels of magic that aren't applied equally to all address families. | 00:38 |
| gus | (now included in pyroute2 upstream) | 00:39 |
| gus | My main remaining issues are migration, and the threat model. | 00:39 |
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| yamamoto | kevinbenton: hi | 00:40 |
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| gus | Currently we start with no privs, and use sudo to gain root whenever we need to. The usual Unix model is the opposite: start with enough privs, and drop them when you no longer need them. | 00:40 |
| kevinbenton | gus: why is migration even a concern? | 00:40 |
| yamamoto | kevinbenton: thank you for writing ft for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178037/ | 00:40 |
| kevinbenton | gus: what is there to migrate? | 00:40 |
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| kevinbenton | yamamoto: hey | 00:41 |
| kevinbenton | yamamoto: no prob | 00:41 |
| gus | kevinbenton: I'd *like* to use the Unix model (and it leads to simpler/safer code, and no sudo requirement), but that means we need to start with elevated privs which changes the deployment instructions. | 00:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-neutronclient: Allow setting router's external ip(s) https://review.openstack.org/181682 | 00:42 |
| gus | kevinbenton: Related to this is whether I can trust the initial python environment or not. | 00:42 |
| kevinbenton | gus: i see | 00:43 |
| gus | kevinbenton: A factor in the design of rootwrap was to use minimal imports because you basically can't trust anything you download from pypi. | 00:43 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: but it would be compatible with an existing deployment since it's over privileged, right? | 00:43 |
| kevinbenton | gus: sketchy python developers :) | 00:43 |
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| kevinbenton | haleyb: ping | 00:45 |
| gus | kevinbenton: the whole thing is built on sand. There is no end-to-end verification (checksums/signatures) for pypi packages, you need to rely on all the mirrors authenticating each transfer leg correctly. Upload is based entirely on HTTP basic auth with per-project standards for who is allowed to upload. | 00:45 |
| gus | kevinbenton: It's common for python path to include some directories that your uid can write to. etc, etc. | 00:45 |
| kevinbenton | gus: yeah, what's the resolution order for that? | 00:46 |
| kevinbenton | gus: what if someone puts something in their local path called 'os' | 00:46 |
| kevinbenton | gus: their malicious lib in the unprivileged world could write that | 00:46 |
| kevinbenton | gus: and then your daemon loads it up | 00:47 |
| gus | kevinbenton: it doesn't really matter. It's so easy to get _something_ to load, and then it can monkey patch anything and it's game over. | 00:47 |
| gus | Afaics, the only real way to build a "secure" python server is to have start from some trusted environment, and switch to a uid which can't write to any of that python path before handling untrusted data. | 00:48 |
| kevinbenton | gus: yeah, i suppose you could write some logic that bails if 'os' doesn't come from a few known locations. then import os and check the privs of everything in sys.path and bail if anything there is writable to neutron user | 00:49 |
| gus | The "trusted environment" can't come from pip, unless you manually review that environment first (but in practice I think people will have to overlook this part because there are few alternatives). | 00:49 |
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| gus | and if you're using pip, you need to run "pip install" as a 3rd user - because it might download and run *anything*. | 00:49 |
| kevinbenton | gus: well most distros just re-package this stuff so nobody is installing from pip in the regular envs | 00:50 |
| gus | An easy alternative is to just treat the whole thing as untrusted and sandbox the whole lot in a VM/container. In which case any rootwrap/privsep/sudo distinction is meaningless. | 00:50 |
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| gus | That latter actually isn't so bad in practice. You have genuinely unprivileged API servers, and the agents are assumed to own the entire machine they're running on anyway. | 00:51 |
| kevinbenton | gus: yeah, i agree with that model as well | 00:51 |
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| gus | .. But this is against the accepted rootwrap design tenants, so I'll have to fight uphill if I want to change those assumptions. | 00:52 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: i didn't particularily understand the threat model for rootwrap to begin with | 00:53 |
| gus | .. Hence me working on migration stories. Currently I have a version that starts the privileged piece via sudo+rootwrap, so it is a minimal change to deployment. | 00:53 |
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| gus | iproute does some nasty things with network namespaces that means we effectively need uid=0 anyway if we want to create/delete namespaces (rather than "just" CAP_SYS_ADMIN which is all that is theoretically required) | 00:54 |
| gus | But so far it basically works. I have regular rootwrap and privsep running side by side, so I can migrate code across piece by piece (most of ip_lib is done since that was an obvious target). | 00:56 |
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| gus | The hard bit is testing frameworks because it has to be a separate process - and all the monkeypatching we do to capture logs, etc doesn't work. | 00:57 |
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| yamamoto | what's the canonical way to create a stable branch on networking-* repo? | 00:59 |
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| haleyb | kevinbenton: pong, it's my late night check-in... | 01:02 |
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| spandhe | hi.. need some quick help.. how does this code trigger? https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/2014.2.1/neutron/api/v2/base.py#L371 Who triggers this notification flow? | 01:11 |
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| kevinbenton | haleyb: yo, still there? | 01:17 |
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| haleyb | kevinbenton: yeah, still here | 01:18 |
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| kevinbenton | haleyb: have you had much luck looking at the iptables apply code for bootup? I was going to look into at least getting the agent to wait to mark the port status as up until it's done | 01:19 |
| kevinbenton | not bootup* | 01:19 |
| kevinbenton | port wiring | 01:19 |
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| haleyb | kevinbenton: i haven't thought much about that, but do have other iptables issues on my plate, like general slowness with large sets | 01:20 |
| kevinbenton | haleyb: ok, i just wanted to make sure i wasn't stepping on your toes too much by deferring the status change until initial wiring is done | 01:21 |
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| hanzhang | kevinbenton: I do not find why this tempest can https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_security_groups_basic_ops.py#L463 pass | 01:21 |
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| kevinbenton | hanzhang: perhaps it's a timing issue. have you tried running it locally and adding some sleep statements to make it as slow as a person? | 01:22 |
| haleyb | kevinbenton: no, have it at it, will be glad tor review | 01:22 |
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| kevinbenton | haleyb: ok. i had wanted to look at it now because it's similar to this patch i was working on to stop the port from going active if the DHCP agent wasn't done https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181674/ | 01:23 |
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| hanzhang | ok, I will try it locallly | 01:25 |
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| haleyb | kevinbenton: we had seen some slowness w/dhcp here recently, but most was attributed to the printing of records inside the loop that builds the hosts file, but any speedup is good, notification good too | 01:29 |
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| HenryG | yamamoto: you can check with sambetts, he went through the process | 02:48 |
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| yamamoto | HenryG: about stable branch creation? thank you | 02:49 |
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| HenryG | yamamoto: yes. Although I think he is not up yet (UK time zone) | 02:49 |
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| HenryG | yamamoto: this was part of it: https://review.openstack.org/176724 | 02:53 |
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| yamamoto | HenryG: do you know why it isn't necessary for eg. neutron.config? | 02:55 |
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| HenryG | yamamoto: sorry, no idea | 02:55 |
| HenryG | yamamoto: maybe ask in the -infra channel | 02:56 |
| yamamoto | HenryG: good idea. thank you! | 02:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-agent: Introduce Ryu based OpenFlow implementation https://review.openstack.org/153946 | 06:17 |
| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-agent: Separate ovs-ofctl using code as a driver https://review.openstack.org/160245 | 06:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Provide snat dvr host name during FIP association with unbound port https://review.openstack.org/179439 | 06:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Allow updating port 'binding:host_id' be None https://review.openstack.org/181867 | 07:22 |
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| hanzhang | hi all, who can help review this patch:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181272/ | 07:24 |
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| pavel_bondar | Hi! Inviting everyone to review refactored db_base_plugin to use pluggable IPAM: https://review.openstack.org//#/c/153236/ | 07:41 |
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| ccard | I'm trying to set up keystone as a wsgi under apache in my OpenStack installation, using TLS. This means that all the keystone endpoints are on https, and so anything talking to keystone must be able to validate certificates using a ca certificate. I am hitting a problem at the moment where e.g. the command "openstack network list" is failing because the neutron server is trying to authenticate to keystone and is failing because it can't validate | 07:58 |
| ccard | the certificate. I can't see how to configure neutron in order to tell it about the ca certificate bundle, and I've also tried adding the ca cert bundle to the system bundle using the instructions here https://www.happyassassin.net/2015/01/14/trusting-additional-cas-in-fedora-rhel-centos-dont-append-to-etcpkitlscertsca-bundle-crt-or-etcpkitlscert-pem/, but with no luck. Any pointers as to how to get this working? | 07:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Two api tests for 'firewall insertion mode' feature https://review.openstack.org/165859 | 08:10 |
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| ajo | irenab, sc68cal , matrohon , aveiga , salv-orlando , I submitted a new version of the QoS spec yesterday | 08:58 |
| ajo | with the feedback I received | 08:58 |
| matrohon | ajo : great! | 08:58 |
| ajo | I hope it slowly looks better, if you have time to review it again, I'd love to have something in good shape for the summit | 08:59 |
| irenab | ajo: will review asap. Thanks. | 08:59 |
| ajo | summit is not the best place for looking into agreement, but it's a good place to check with the wider community if what we're proposing makes sense | 08:59 |
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| ajo | irenab, I finally moved all the rules put/post/get into qos-rules, and looking into the cmdline tool argument thing now | 09:00 |
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| irenab | ajo: I am concerned about extensability of the API to be flexible about rule types/parameters | 09:01 |
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| ajo | irenab: dictionaries are a "no-no" | 09:02 |
| irenab | ajo: :-) | 09:03 |
| ajo | irenab the only way to extend will be adding new datamodels, but... now it's written with a single URI end | 09:04 |
| ajo | I hope that at least looks better | 09:04 |
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| irenab | ajo: I would consider what does it mean to add new rule type in some out of tree plugin implementation | 09:06 |
| ajo | irenab, yes, DB migrations are a missing piece for out of tree services, but it shouldn't be a stopper | 09:07 |
| ajo | if we finally wanted or needed to be out of tree | 09:07 |
| irenab | ajo: agree | 09:08 |
| ajo | irenab: armax concerns were mainly about, design (we need to complicate the business logic to validate parameters & dicts), and that otherwise having an open dictionary opens vendors to include any random parameters. | 09:08 |
| ajo | in an ideal world, out of tree services/extensions should be able to manage their own tables & migrations | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (multiprocess) and metadata agent https://review.openstack.org/161732 | 09:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (single process mode) https://review.openstack.org/170905 | 09:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/neutron: mlnx MD: mlnx_direct removal https://review.openstack.org/181672 | 09:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (single process mode) https://review.openstack.org/170905 | 09:47 |
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| ajo | ianw: ping | 10:29 |
| ajo | I was reviewing stable/juno .. stable/kilo config file changes | 10:29 |
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| ajo | and I found the MTU stuff, are the config settings already working in the openvswitch-agent & l3-agent contexts , or that is yet to be done in liberty? | 10:29 |
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| ajo | I wanted to confirm before trying to play with them :) | 10:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove H305 from tox.ini pep8 ignore list https://review.openstack.org/181904 | 10:36 |
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| sambetts | yamamoto: Did you manage to find a guide to managing stable branches on the networking-* repos? | 10:40 |
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| yamamoto | sambetts: hi | 10:47 |
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| yamamoto | sambetts: i asked infra folk | 10:48 |
| yamamoto | sambetts: and get "create" permission patch merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182144/ | 10:48 |
| yamamoto | sambetts: and now looking for a way to actually create a branch :) | 10:49 |
| sambetts | yamamoto: You have to use the gerrit web interface, this guide explains a lot about it http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html | 10:49 |
| yamamoto | sambetts: according to the infra guy, http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#release-management is a bit outdated | 10:50 |
| sambetts | yamamoto: In the gerrit interface you go to Projects -> List, and find your project -> Branches then you should be able to create the branch once your patch has merged | 10:50 |
| yamamoto | sambetts: this? https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/stackforge/networking-ofagent,branches | 10:51 |
| sambetts | yamamoto: Yup, if you have the permissons to create a branch you should see a form under the list of branches | 10:51 |
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| yamamoto | sambetts: i don't see any forms. will the permisson be immediately effective after the patch is merged, or can it take some time? | 10:53 |
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| sambetts | yamamoto: It should look like this http://imgur.com/GBjgWf0 , as far as I could tell it was pretty much instantly avaliable after merge | 10:55 |
| yamamoto | sambetts: i don't have edit boxes and the button. i guess i need to ask infra folks again. thank you! | 10:57 |
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| sambetts | yamamoto: Yeah thats really odd :/ if you need any other help with it feel free to ping me again :) | 10:58 |
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| amotoki_ | yamamoto: It seems "create" permission has not been applied yet. | 11:02 |
| amotoki_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/stackforge/networking-ofagent,access | 11:02 |
| yamamoto | amotoki_: yea | 11:02 |
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| amotoki_ | yamamoto: from my experience, it didn't take much time after the patch was merged as sambetts says. | 11:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure non-overlapping cidrs in subnetpools without galera https://review.openstack.org/179955 | 11:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/neutron: Make l3 agent prefix delegation pluggable https://review.openstack.org/176272 | 11:17 |
| ianw | ajo: i think i'm not the ianw you're looking for :) | 11:17 |
| ajo | hmmm | 11:17 |
| ajo | no, you're not :D | 11:17 |
| ajo | sorry ianw ;) | 11:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Support BP:ipv6-router in Neutron HA Router https://review.openstack.org/173206 | 11:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Make it clear the rfe tag is lower-case https://review.openstack.org/182017 | 11:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: l2pop UT: Reduce code duplication in migration tests https://review.openstack.org/158184 | 11:44 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: Hi Paul Michali | 12:01 |
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| pc_m | anilvenkata: hi | 12:02 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: do you have some time? This is regarding action item in previous vpnaas meeting - "*Swan can support multiple local CIDRs." | 12:02 |
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| pc_m | yeah, can spend some time. | 12:03 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: what exactly I have to look into, mean the requirement | 12:04 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-05-05-16.01.log.html | 12:05 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: I think the question was... does OpenSwan and StrongSwan allow the user to specify multiple left? side CIDRs for a IPSec connection? We know that there can be multiple subnet CIDRs specified on the peer side. Can the same be support by *Swan on the local end? | 12:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: setup port filters when sg rules change https://review.openstack.org/181272 | 12:08 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m you mean multiple local private subnets? | 12:08 |
| pc_m | That's the basic question and then the follow on to that is whether or not mixed v4/v6 CIDRs can be provided as well. | 12:08 |
| pc_m | yes | 12:08 |
| pc_m | (maybe it was IP and not CIDR) | 12:09 |
| anilvenkata | but we are creating vpn-service with subnet-id, so we can have only one local private subnet per vpnservice, right | 12:09 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: This is on the connection. | 12:09 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: When a connection is created, you can specify 1+ peer subnets, but there is no facility to specify additional local private subnets. | 12:10 |
| anilvenkata | that is because connections are part of vpnservice and each vpnservice will suport only one subnet CIDR | 12:10 |
| anilvenkata | so all connections in that vpnservice should use same left subnet CIDR | 12:11 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: Are you saying that is a limitation/requirement of *Swan? | 12:11 |
| pc_m | in "each vpnservice will suport only one subnet CIDR" | 12:12 |
| anilvenkata | yes in existing vpnaas, it is not limitation in *Swan | 12:12 |
| anilvenkata | we are creating this limitation in vpnaas | 12:12 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: How so? | 12:13 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: The service is associated with a router, and not a subnet. | 12:13 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: Can't we have a router, with two private subnets? | 12:13 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: as during vpn service create we have the command like "neutron vpn-service-create router1 subnet-id" | 12:14 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: yes router can support multiple subnets at same time | 12:14 |
| anilvenkata | see for example this command | 12:15 |
| anilvenkata | neutron vpn-service-create --name myvpn --description "My vpn service" router1 mysubnet | 12:15 |
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| anilvenkata | from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/VPNaaS/HowToInstall | 12:15 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: ^ | 12:15 |
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| pc_m | anilvenkata: Right, but the service is associated with the router and not with the subnet, AFAIK | 12:15 |
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| anilvenkata | neutron vpn-service-create ROUTER SUBNET | 12:16 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: IOW, there is a 1:1 between service and router. I don't recall any restriction on the number of subnets. Do you see if there is a restriction and if so, where? | 12:16 |
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| anilvenkata | I didn't check that, I will see the api and implementation, atleast the service should support all the subnets in that router, do u agree with this | 12:18 |
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| pc_m | anilvenkata: Even though the subnet is specified in the service command, I don't recall there being any relationship that requires the subnet. When you look at the code, everything is gated on the router (or router id). | 12:19 |
| anilvenkata | and the vpn-service-create should accept one more subnets as input that belong that router | 12:20 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: I think theoretically, one can have >1 subnet on the local side. The question is whether or not *swan would support multiples on the left side. | 12:20 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: openswan and libreswan supports | 12:21 |
| anilvenkata | they have "leftsubnets" field, which has to be used instead of "leftsubnet" | 12:21 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: but strongswan doesn't support this field | 12:21 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: I guess the first question was whether or not *swan supported multiple subnets. The second is whether different IP versions could be supported in that case or whether they all have to be the same (for a connection) | 12:21 |
| raorn | hi, everyone | 12:22 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: Then the final question is whether or not VPNaaS should be enhanced to support that capability (>1 subnets on local side) | 12:22 |
| raorn | can someone enlight me about neutron databases? | 12:22 |
| ZZelle_ | raorn, hi | 12:23 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: I think vpnaas should be enhanced, instead of using multiple local subnets in a signle connection, we can have each subnet belonging to a router in each connection, in the ipsec.conf belonging to the router | 12:23 |
| anilvenkata | what do u think with this approach | 12:24 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: ? | 12:24 |
| raorn | pc_m: latest *swans do support multiple subnets. different ip versions are not supported, you need to create different connections for each ip version | 12:24 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: not sure i follow | 12:24 |
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| anilvenkata | raorn: pc_m as "localsubnets" filed is not supported for *Swan(supported only in openswan/libreswan and not in strongswan), we can have each local cidr(belonging to that router) in a seperate connection id | 12:26 |
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| raorn | anilvenkata: isn't strongswan dead already? | 12:26 |
| pc_m | raorn: anilvenkata says StrongSwan doesn't have leftsubnets. Is there another config option for that. | 12:26 |
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| pc_m | raorn: Strongswan is replacing OpenSwan | 12:27 |
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| raorn | oh... i thought it was libreswan | 12:27 |
| pc_m | raorn: AFAIK... StrongSwan replaces OpenSwan, the latter not support on Ubuntu 15.10+, Libreswan is for Fedora, instead of OpenSwan. | 12:28 |
| raorn | ah, i see. | 12:28 |
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| pc_m | anilvenkata: We should probably discuss all this in the VPNaaS meeting in 3.5 hours. | 12:28 |
| hanzhang | salv-orlando: I have address this patch# https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181272/ as your comments, can you help to review it again? | 12:30 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: sure I am talking about this one for supporting multiple local CIDR http://paste.openstack.org/show/220764/ | 12:31 |
| anilvenkata | raorn: ^ | 12:31 |
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| pc_m | anilvenkata: so multiple connections. That's supported currently. I think the point was to have a single connection that supports N:M subnets | 12:34 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: raorn that is not possible with strongswan I guess as it doesn't support leftsubnets and rightsubnets fields | 12:35 |
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| anilvenkata | I didn't see anywhere in strongswan examples single connection that supports N:M subnets | 12:36 |
| raorn | i'm not sure if this configuration works... | 12:36 |
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| raorn | tho ipsec gateways exchange policy, and here we have two completely different policies for one pair of gateways... | 12:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: IPAM reference driver https://review.openstack.org/150485 | 12:37 |
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| pc_m | anilvenkata: Can you look into strongswan to confirm that there is no support for multiple local subnets (and to maybe verify that openswan does support)? | 12:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Implement IPAM Driver loader https://review.openstack.org/147479 | 12:38 |
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| pc_m | anilvenkata: I'd like to discuss this at todays meeting and see if this is something that should move forward or be dropped (by the community). | 12:39 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: raorn for openswan https://github.com/libreswan/libreswan/commit/26f19985d99144ab5888ca1c950e292d8b762438#diff-42ce80c89423f807b659ec19269b1af8R15 | 12:39 |
| anilvenkata | pc_m: sure, we will discuss this in meeting, thanks Paul and raorn, I will check with strongswan team also | 12:40 |
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| raorn | https://lists.strongswan.org/pipermail/users/2013-November/005491.html | 12:40 |
| pc_m | anilvenkata: Thanks. | 12:40 |
| raorn | "I think it is possible. you can use different pairs of leftid/rightid" | 12:40 |
| anilvenkata | raorn: that is for tunnels and not private subnets | 12:40 |
| anilvenkata | raorn: the question is whether we can support multiple subnets in same ipsec site connection | 12:41 |
| pc_m | raorn: on the left side | 12:41 |
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| pc_m | raorn: We know we can do this on the right side (at least with OSwan/LSwan, I hope with SSWan) | 12:42 |
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| raorn | this is the same config as http://paste.openstack.org/show/220764/ | 12:43 |
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| raorn | so, about databases | 12:45 |
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| raorn | I want to make an extension for ML2 plugin, create new type and put it in completely different package. and I need to create some tables | 12:46 |
| raorn | what's the easiest way to deal with migrations? | 12:47 |
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| sambetts | Hey, I'm running into an odd issue doing python setup.py develop with neutron, this is the error, does anyone know how to fix | 12:49 |
| sambetts | ? | 12:49 |
| sambetts | raise TypeError, "dist must be a Distribution instance" | 12:49 |
| sambetts | TypeError: dist must be a Distribution instance | 12:49 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: raorn strongswan doesn't support "leftsubnets" field, but it supports multiple subnets in "leftsubnet" for IKEv2 only https://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/ConnSection | 13:08 |
| anilvenkata | IKEv2 supports multiple subnets separated by commas, IKEv1 only interprets the first subnet of such a definition, | 13:08 |
| anilvenkata | unless the Cisco Unity extension plugin is enabled (available since 5.0.1). | 13:08 |
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| dhellmann | markmcclain, salv-orlando, mestery: what are the chances you'll be able to look at this neutron client patch this week? I'm going to need a new release of neutron client that doesn't use the oslo namespace package to unblock other work on that project. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180700/ | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | I know this is a busy week, with summit prep | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/neutron: Add an internal DHCPv6 agent for Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/161381 | 14:15 |
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| tiagogomes_ | Hi, I created a router to connected the tenenat network with the external network. However I couldn't ping the any of the router interfaces (both the external an tenant interface on the router) from a VM in the tenant network. I created another tenant network and connected it to the same router. After doing so, I was able to ping the router interfaces. Is this the expected behaviour? | 14:18 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: see https://review.openstack.org/180700 by dhellmann | 14:18 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, yeah, that's what I currently do :) | 14:18 |
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| dhellmann | HenryG, ihrachyshka : thanks! | 14:20 |
| leggsy | hi everyone. Anyone have experience with Juno and OpenDaylight? Basically my vxlan tunnels are not being created… | 14:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nir Magnezi proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: networks: allow --router:external=False/True syntax, again https://review.openstack.org/182313 | 14:23 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: how about this one too, so we see less red from jenkins? https://review.openstack.org/181277 | 14:28 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, it's a good piece, though six import should have been shuffled. do we want to respin for that? | 15:04 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka: are you sure? Why no complaint from hacking checks? | 15:05 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, I don't know. MAYBE those checks are disabled, or were removed. I will do some git-eology | 15:06 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: actually I believe the grouping never had a check, just alphabetical order in each manually created grouping | 15:07 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, so it's controlled by H305, which is disabled (afaik jlibosva was going to reenable it) | 15:07 |
| ihrachyshka | and also : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106170/ | 15:07 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, see jlibosva patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181904/ | 15:08 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: thanks. So Cyril's patch will fail now after jlibosva's? | 15:10 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, I'm currently checking just that | 15:10 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, it passes the check. though H305 was not relaxed to allow those mixes in. not sure whether we want to enforce it manually though. | 15:11 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: Personally I feel this kind of check gets in the way of real work ;) | 15:14 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: How about leave the grouping to later? When someone enables the check they can at the same time fix all the transgressions. | 15:16 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, totally reasonable perspective. | 15:17 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, W+1 | 15:17 |
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| ihrachyshka | I hope no one complains that the spec is not formally merged in | 15:18 |
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| HenryG | The only reason for that is because Kyle is not working this week | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron-specs: ML2/OVS QoS support with bandwidth limiting https://review.openstack.org/182349 | 15:29 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, irenab , sc68cal , gsagie, aveiga : https://review.openstack.org/182349 | 15:29 |
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| ajo | It's very thin, but I wanted the fire started ;) | 15:30 |
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| irenab | ajo: thanks, will take a look asap | 15:32 |
| aveiga | ajo: what irenab said :) I'll have a look, and thank you | 15:32 |
| ajo | irenab, aveiga thank you both ;) | 15:32 |
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| sc68cal | ajo: thanks, will look | 15:36 |
| ajo | sc68cal++ | 15:36 |
| ajo | :) | 15:36 |
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| raorn | I am making ML2 type/mach driver (outside of neutron tree, as separate package) and need some database tables. I can add db management script to my package, but how do I handle alembic stuff in this case? | 15:40 |
| raorn | can someone help me? I know nothing about sqlalchemy and its add-ons... | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Block subnet create when a network hosts subnets allocated from different pools https://review.openstack.org/180299 | 15:42 |
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| sc68cal | ajo: I'm going to probably push a patch to the qos api spec to fix the sphinx errors | 15:44 |
| ajo | sc68cal, sure, thanks a lot | 15:44 |
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| madhu_ak | hi there, I have a devstack instance running on my vm. When I need flavor framework, Is there any sort of extra installation work to be done? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/FlavorFramework | 16:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Allow users to run 'tox -epy34' https://review.openstack.org/181277 | 16:09 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, +A please: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172354/ I needed to rebase to avoid some irrelevant gate failures on merge\ | 16:19 |
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| sambetts | yamamoto: Have you had any more success setting up your branches? | 16:34 |
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| madhu_ak | enikanorov: Hi, I am looking into this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139758. I wanted to test the flavor framework capabilities. That said, after pulling the latest devstack, and then pull this patch manually, restarting the neutron service will work? | 16:35 |
| yamamoto | sambetts: no success | 16:35 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, hm, the latest py34 patch we merged results in an interesting breakage in RDO | 16:36 |
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| sambetts | yamamoto: Your access rights look like they have been set up now, https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/stackforge/networking-ofagent,access | 16:37 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, since it now patched neutron/__init__.py to depend on six library, and since we parse setup.cfg on setup.py call, and it imports neutron hacking hook, it crashes without python-six as build dep | 16:37 |
| ihrachyshka | http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos70/96/09/96091cb976e5f858fcd53fb0798555020eac94b8_33cfff38/rpmbuild.log | 16:37 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka: ouch :( | 16:37 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, well, it may be fine | 16:37 |
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| yamamoto | sambetts: i haven't noticed it, thank you. now i have "Create Branch" button, yay! | 16:38 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: what is pbr trying to do? | 16:39 |
| sambetts | yamamoto: Yay! :D | 16:39 |
| ihrachyshka | zigo, any concerns adding python-six as build dep for neutron? | 16:39 |
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| zigo | ihrachyshka: Version 1.9.0? | 16:39 |
| ihrachyshka | zigo, any | 16:39 |
| zigo | (for Kilo?) | 16:39 |
| zigo | Sure, no problem. | 16:39 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, I guess it tries to build a source tarball from git checkout we did in delorean | 16:40 |
| zigo | I don't mind any change if all (build-)dependencies are already in Debian. | 16:40 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, maybe it's even relevant for git master chasers only | 16:40 |
| zigo | The issue is always new dependencies which we need too fast: Debian FTP masters aren't that fast to approve new stuff. | 16:40 |
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| ihrachyshka | zigo, ok. it's also not clear whether anyone is broken other than insane users who chase master (aka RDO) | 16:41 |
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| zigo | Ah ok. | 16:41 |
| zigo | ihrachyshka: FYI, I only package beta, rc, and official releases. | 16:42 |
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| zigo | So, roughly, one new release each month. | 16:42 |
| ihrachyshka | zigo, yeah, I know. SANITY. | 16:42 |
| zigo | :) | 16:42 |
| ihrachyshka | zigo, we chase all HEADs for all branches. | 16:42 |
| zigo | Thanks for doing the dirty work ... :P | 16:42 |
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| ihrachyshka | (or that's the plan, we don't chase anything older than kilo for now) | 16:42 |
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| ihrachyshka | zigo, yeah, that's the plan, catch breakages before Debian maintainers need to get involved! | 16:43 |
| ihrachyshka | ... :) | 16:43 |
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| zigo | :D | 16:43 |
| zigo | ihrachyshka: Are you involved in RDO packaging with Alan and Haikel ? | 16:43 |
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| ihrachyshka | zigo, I'm mostly neutron guy plus some libraries and designate, but yeah, I'm involved in lots of discussions around it | 16:44 |
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| sridhar_ram | pc_m: anilvenkata: ping | 17:02 |
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| pc_m | sridhar_ram: hi | 17:02 |
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| pc_m | sridhar_ram: anilvenkata: matrohon: The big question is whether or not it makes sense to try to support multiple subnets. thoughts? | 17:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | pc_m: i think it makes absolute sense | 17:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | the alternate is to create one vpn-service per subnet and a separate ipsec connection | 17:04 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: router having multiple subnets is very common | 17:05 |
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| anilvenkata | atleast we can support multiple subnets through muliple connections in a single vpnservice | 17:06 |
| anilvenkata | this can be done with minor changes in api I think | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | however i think moving the subnet out of vpn-service is drastic | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | we should consider enhance vpn-service to accept multiple subnets .. | 17:06 |
| pc_m | yeah, we support x <--> a, x <--> a,b, but not x,y <--> a | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | you can then chose to site-2-site connect them a ONE remote site | 17:07 |
| sridhar_ram | or you can chose to connect to into a DMVPN mesh | 17:07 |
| sridhar_ram | pc_m: yep | 17:07 |
| pc_m | sridhar_ram: That's another question, should the service be associated with multiple subnets (thus implying all VPN types support) or should it be left to the connection. | 17:07 |
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| anilvenkata | pc_m: IMO vpn-service should only take router | 17:08 |
| * sridhar_ram thinking | 17:08 | |
| pc_m | sridhar_ram: IOW should BGP vpn, DM VPN, IPSec VPN all support. | 17:08 |
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| pc_m | anilvenkata: Yeah, that is what I'm wondering | 17:09 |
| anilvenkata | ipsec-site-connection will have local subnets and peer-cidr | 17:09 |
| anilvenkata | we will have a validation in ipse-site-connection that all user provided local subnets should belong to the router(which is part of vpn-service) | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | pc_m: then, vpn-service doesn't have anything else.. perhaps move router to the connection as well ? ;-) | 17:09 |
| anilvenkata | no | 17:10 |
| anilvenkata | ipsec-site-connection will belong to vpn-serive | 17:10 |
| anilvenkata | ipsec-site-connection will get router info(all subnets for validation) from vpn-service | 17:10 |
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| anilvenkata | user can only provide a desired local subnets(among all subnets router having) in ipsec-site-connection | 17:11 |
| pc_m | sridhar_ram: I could see this several ways. A) service only knows about router, and individual connection types know about subnets. B) Service knows about subnets too and connection is just associated with service | 17:12 |
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| pc_m | sridhar_ram: anilvenkata: With A) I'm wondering what the effect of that is (why they initially added the subnet to service and why it may be needed at that level). | 17:14 |
| sridhar_ram | pc_m: with (A) the value for vpn-service data-model is reduced | 17:14 |
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| pc_m | sridhar_ram: anilvenkata: With B) I'm concerned that it may imply that all types of connections have to support multiple subnets. | 17:15 |
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| sridhar_ram | pc_m: anilvenkata: unfortunately i got to go | 17:15 |
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| pc_m | sridhar_ram: I'll try to post on ML... | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | i think we should propose a spec .. and discuss this out. it seems it will rather simple to support in strongswan | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | and i don't fully understand why we need Cisco unity extension plugin for this effort | 17:17 |
| pc_m | sridhar_ram: I think it is a good idea, just wondering about the details. | 17:17 |
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| pc_m | sridhar_ram: that is something with strongswan. For it to support multiple subnets in IKEv1, it needs that extension (whatever it is) | 17:17 |
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| sridhar_ram | pc_m: okay | 17:18 |
| pc_m | certainly need more info. | 17:18 |
| raorn | I am making ML2 type/mach driver (outside of neutron tree, as separate package) and need some database tables. I can add db management script to my package, but how do I handle alembic stuff in this case? | 17:18 |
| raorn | can someone enlight me? I know nothing about sqlalchemy and its add-ons... | 17:18 |
| pc_m | sridhar_ram: I'll try a ML discussion to try to get this focused more and then a BP spec can be created once more is known. | 17:19 |
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| russellb | HenryG: ping re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181277 | 18:31 |
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| HenryG | russellb: oh dear :( | 18:53 |
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| russellb | HenryG: I can't seem to actually reproduce locally, though | 18:53 |
| russellb | HenryG: just found the bug that pointed to that patch ... but i can't find why that would break it | 18:53 |
| * russellb has an idea for a hack to test it in jenkins ... | 18:54 | |
| HenryG | russellb: is it because of this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181277/4/neutron/__init__.py | 18:55 |
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| russellb | HenryG: could be, if six isn't available at that point | 18:55 |
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| russellb | HenryG: will see what happens with this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182411/ | 18:58 |
| russellb | HenryG: i pointed to a git repo of neutron + that patch reverted | 18:58 |
| russellb | HenryG: sorry to bug you, but you were +2 on it :-p | 18:58 |
| russellb | HenryG: yes, that fixes it. | 19:00 |
| HenryG | russellb: ok | 19:00 |
| HenryG | russellb: So revert until we figure out the right way? | 19:00 |
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| russellb | HenryG: +1 proposing a revert now] | 19:00 |
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| HenryG | russellb: thanks for being on top of this | 19:02 |
| russellb | np | 19:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "Allow users to run 'tox -epy34'" https://review.openstack.org/182413 | 19:02 |
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| russellb | it blocked me, so i had to figure it out :) | 19:02 |
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| HenryG | let's see who else is around... | 19:03 |
| HenryG | carl_baldwin: ping | 19:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | HenryG, pong | 19:05 |
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| HenryG | carl_baldwin: need help with a revert ^^ by russellb | 19:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | HenryG, right, I had just pulled it up. Looking... | 19:05 |
| HenryG | carl_baldwin: the py34 thing broke stuff | 19:06 |
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| HenryG | carl_baldwin: So let's revert and the submitter can investigate the details | 19:07 |
| carl_baldwin | HenryG, I agree. I'm just checking the revert for sanity quickly. | 19:07 |
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| russellb | thanks ... i didn't really check it closely ... just "git revert" | 19:07 |
| russellb | and didn't get conflicts | 19:07 |
| HenryG | carl_baldwin: good idea, thanks | 19:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | russellb, I like to replay reverts and cherry-picks locally and diff them against gerrit. Usually, it is fine but sometimes I find a conflict that was incorrectly resolved or something. | 19:09 |
| carl_baldwin | russellb, In this case, you're right no conflicts and I came up with the same patch locally. | 19:09 |
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| russellb | cool :) | 19:09 |
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| HenryG | carl_baldwin: thanks! | 19:10 |
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| russellb | HenryG: carl_baldwin thank you both! | 19:11 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: hi | 19:13 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m hi | 19:13 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: I'm seeing an odd issue with tox. Getting failure to install deps, throwing import error in pbr | 19:14 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: for neutron.hooks.setup_hook (I'm in VPN repo) | 19:14 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Have you seen that? | 19:14 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m, I haven't seen it yet but could it be related to russellb 's revert ^^ (just a wild guess) | 19:15 |
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| pc_m | It just started happening about an hour ago in the VPN repo. | 19:15 |
| russellb | pc_m: carl_baldwin yes same bug | 19:15 |
| russellb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1454372 | 19:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1454372 in neutron "ImportError: neutron.hooks.setup_hook" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Russell Bryant (russellb) | 19:15 |
| pc_m | russellb: ah! | 19:15 |
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| pc_m | OK, so I could checkout the commit before the offending one, and have VPN repo use my local neutron repo to be able to proceed. | 19:17 |
| pc_m | :( This is second neutron change that has broken VPNaaS today... | 19:18 |
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| pc_m | I'm frantically trying to get a fix in for VPN tests to get the tests running again. | 19:18 |
| pc_m | russellb: carl_baldwin: thanks | 19:18 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Do you still have +2 for VPN repo? | 19:19 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m, when it rains it pours. Sorry to hear. | 19:19 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m, I'm not sure, I can check. | 19:19 |
| * carl_baldwin thinks so | 19:19 | |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: If you get time, can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168115/34? Trying to get the functional job for VPN updated to no longer run devstack (similar to what neutron does). | 19:23 |
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| russellb | carl_baldwin: HenryG so this is fun ... the revert is blocked by the same bug it introduced. This other patch should fix it though: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182433 | 20:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | russellb, without looking too closely at the patch, why is it proposed against kilo first? | 20:03 |
| russellb | carl_baldwin: no idea, that seems wrong. | 20:03 |
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| russellb | carl_baldwin: will re-propose... | 20:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Update build hooks. https://review.openstack.org/182438 | 20:05 |
| russellb | carl_baldwin: ^ though we'll see what jenkins has to say on that one ... | 20:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | russellb, I don't really have my head wrapped around this stuff. I don't feel qualified to vote on it at the moment. Let's see what Jenkins has to say about it. | 20:09 |
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| russellb | carl_baldwin: it is indeed magic | 20:13 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton, ping | 20:16 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: pong | 20:17 |
| carl_baldwin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180367/9/neutron/agent/linux/ip_lib.py | 20:17 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton, just wondering if you explicitly chose not to use utils.wait_until_true. | 20:18 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: no, i didn't know it existed | 20:19 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: one sec. i'll update it | 20:19 |
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| wes__ | Hello, I'm having an issue in Juno when I connect a router to a private tenant network, the dhcp service stops responding. Upon remove the router interface from the private network, the dhcp service seems to start working again in about a minute. Any ideas? | 20:20 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: and i'm not going to adjust the system clock :) | 20:20 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton, :P | 20:20 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton, I hoped you'd know that I am kidding. | 20:20 |
| wes__ | This is with Neutron / OVS | 20:20 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: yeah :) | 20:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add capability to wait for IPv6 address in ip_lib https://review.openstack.org/180367 | 20:35 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: ^^ | 20:35 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: gross, i put another change in there, hang on a sec | 20:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Append @randtoken to L3 agent namespaces in full stack tests https://review.openstack.org/176093 | 20:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton, I just caught that. Thanks for not rebasing. | 20:36 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: ok, fixed now | 20:38 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks. | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Update build hooks. https://review.openstack.org/182438 | 20:38 |
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| HenryG | russellb: I am completely clueless on the build hooks patch :( | 20:46 |
| russellb | HenryG: heh, well let's see if we can get it passing first ... the first failure was a silly one. if it's still busted we can bug lifeless about it | 20:47 |
| lifeless | hi o/ | 20:48 |
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| lifeless | yeah, zuul seems a bit slow on kicking off the ,2 build | 20:48 |
| lifeless | that todo pedanism is so wrong | 20:48 |
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| russellb | lifeless: yep, pretty annoying | 20:49 |
| lifeless | anyhow | 20:50 |
| lifeless | the unittest tests passed | 20:50 |
| lifeless | so it looks like it does fix the thing | 20:50 |
| lifeless | HenryG: I can help you understand the hooks thing | 20:50 |
| lifeless | HenryG: just ask | 20:50 |
| HenryG | lifeless: let me read the commit msg a couple more times ... | 20:51 |
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| HenryG | lifeless: does neutron even support being easy installed? If so, who even uses that? | 20:53 |
| lifeless | HenryG: you may want to look at PEP 426, the bit called 'environment markers' | 20:53 |
| lifeless | HenryG: easy install happens when you call python setup.py $anything | 20:53 |
| lifeless | HenryG: because we use setuptools. | 20:53 |
| lifeless | HenryG: if any dependencies are missing, it then goes and downloads them without using proxies, SSL, or generally anything sane. | 20:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Return early from RPC call handlers with no return value https://review.openstack.org/182449 | 20:54 |
| lifeless | HenryG: pip works only because it installs things before calling setup.py. | 20:54 |
| lifeless | HenryG: but - it can't tell what to install before calling setup.py until its called setup.py. | 20:54 |
| lifeless | HenryG: so there are two sets of deps: the setup.py deps, and the install deps. | 20:54 |
| lifeless | HenryG: the first set we can't avoid easy_install for: but what we can do (and do do ) is pre-install them, and because that list is stored globally in CI, it has to be small and static. | 20:55 |
| lifeless | HenryG: right now, its 'pbr' and 'setuptools' and 'pip' and thats it. | 20:55 |
| lifeless | setup.py install would trigger easy_install of other runtime deps, but pip after doing 'setup.py egg_info' can read out the deps itself and install them before setup.py install is called. | 20:56 |
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| HenryG | lifeless: Thanks, I think I kind of understand. (But don't expect me to remember any of this next week.) | 21:00 |
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| lifeless | HenryG: so what broke here is that 'import neutron' is something that has to work with only setup_requires | 21:01 |
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| lifeless | so anything in neutron/__init__.py has to be in setup_requires, and six wasn't. | 21:01 |
| lifeless | thats why it broke | 21:01 |
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| lifeless | but the underlying cause of us trying to import it was the way that the win32 stuff had been laid in, which was procedural rather than declarative | 21:02 |
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| HenryG | lifeless: and moving the win32 deps into setup.py means they get evaluated ... when? | 21:05 |
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| lifeless | HenryG: by pip when its introspecting the requirements | 21:07 |
| russellb | >_< | 21:07 |
| russellb | lifeless: this is rev2 https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/check-neutron-lbaas-dsvm-api/49/console | 21:07 |
| russellb | lifeless: somehow i think we're completely wedged. | 21:07 |
| lifeless | HenryG: the ":<marker>" syntax is a little bit of a hack, - it becomes a regular install_requires, but only when <marker> evaluates true | 21:07 |
| russellb | lifeless: that job is installing neutron-lbaas, which is using requirements.txt to install neutron from git (so it's not using the patch) | 21:08 |
| russellb | so we're just wedged. | 21:08 |
| russellb | lifeless: i think we should just force-merge the revert that busted this | 21:08 |
| russellb | err, force merge the revert of the commit that busted this | 21:08 |
| lifeless | russellb: or force merge my fix ? | 21:08 |
| lifeless | russellb: since it fixed the unit tests... | 21:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Return early from RPC call handlers with no return value https://review.openstack.org/182449 | 21:08 |
| lifeless | russellb: but yes I agree. | 21:08 |
| russellb | lifeless: or that, yes ... though a revert seems a little safer to force | 21:09 |
| lifeless | russellb: also that job is broken conceptually, since it really shuld be using the ZUUL_REF | 21:09 |
| russellb | totally agreed | 21:09 |
| lifeless | I really don't want to checkout the lbaas code out do I? | 21:09 |
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| lifeless | I fear what I'll find | 21:10 |
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| russellb | https://review.openstack.org/182455 | 21:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Expunge port object from session to avoid ObjectDeletedError https://review.openstack.org/182456 | 21:18 |
| russellb | dougwig: fyi, https://review.openstack.org/182455 | 21:19 |
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| dougwig | russellb: thank you. | 21:25 |
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| russellb | dougwig: np, sorry it came down to having to turn that off | 21:26 |
| russellb | but wanted to give you a heads up | 21:27 |
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| dougwig | russellb: no worries, you're right, it's testing the wrong neutron. | 21:28 |
| russellb | dougwig: i was completely confused as to how the broken patch merged in the first place for a while, but that's why | 21:28 |
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| dougwig | ahh, nuts, it went non-voting in both repos. let me see if i can update that quickly. | 21:29 |
| russellb | dougwig: sorry about that, was kind of working quickly | 21:29 |
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| russellb | dougwig: since the broken patch broke a bunch of other jobs too, for networking-* repos | 21:30 |
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| dougwig | russellb: no worries, i totally get it. | 21:30 |
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| russellb | k | 21:30 |
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| russellb | software is fun. | 21:30 |
| russellb | and by fun i mean i'm about to rage quit for the day :) | 21:31 |
| Steap | hehe | 21:31 |
| Steap | I'm the author of the py34 patch | 21:31 |
| Steap | and I must say I feel the same way :) | 21:31 |
| Steap | Sorry for breaking everything btw :) | 21:31 |
| dougwig | russellb: i owe you a beer for leaving you that time bomb. | 21:31 |
| russellb | Steap: i'm sure, it's ok, it's easy to see how it happened now | 21:31 |
| Steap | russellb: I must say I dont really get all teh details | 21:31 |
| russellb | dougwig: haha, i'll take a beer | 21:31 |
| Steap | though I think that if the hook is removed, I might just be able to resubmit the patch ? | 21:31 |
| russellb | Steap: yes | 21:32 |
| Steap | ok | 21:32 |
| Steap | Thanks, I'll resubmit once all these new patches have been merged | 21:32 |
| russellb | Steap: the addition of six to neutron/__init__.py broke it, as the hook was running in some cases when dependencies had not been installed yet | 21:32 |
| Steap | I proposed a change to make the py34 gate voting though | 21:32 |
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| Steap | and it has just been merged | 21:32 |
| Steap | so that might be an issue | 21:32 |
| russellb | oh, well that's fun | 21:32 |
| Steap | since this gate will be failing every single time if my patch is reverted | 21:32 |
| Steap | can we remove the hook without reverting the patch ? | 21:33 |
| Steap | or will it not work ? | 21:33 |
| * russellb thinks | 21:33 | |
| russellb | if the lbaas job goes non-voting, i think merging the patch to remove the hook will restore happiness | 21:33 |
| Steap | hehe | 21:33 |
| Steap | let's hope so | 21:33 |
| Steap | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182439/ here is the patch that makes the py34 gate voting | 21:33 |
| Steap | just got approved :/ | 21:34 |
| russellb | Steap: i think i stopped it from merging | 21:34 |
| russellb | Steap: let's just let the dust settle a bit | 21:34 |
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| Steap | russellb: ok | 21:36 |
| russellb | Steap: once either the hook removal patch merges, or the revert -> hook removal -> re-add of your py34 patch | 21:36 |
| russellb | then this can probably be turned on .. | 21:36 |
| Steap | y | 21:36 |
| Steap | the idea if to have both patches merged quickly | 21:36 |
| Steap | so nothing breaks before the gate is turned on | 21:37 |
| * russellb nods | 21:37 | |
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| russellb | understandable, let's just repair what's broken first :) | 21:37 |
| Steap | y | 21:37 |
| russellb | i'm out for the day, i'll pick this up again in the morning | 21:39 |
| HenryG | russellb: recheck on 182438 now? | 21:39 |
| russellb | HenryG: almost ... need https://review.openstack.org/182455 to be merged and take effect | 21:40 |
| HenryG | russellb: it is merged, when does it take effect? | 21:40 |
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| russellb | it's approved, but not merged yet | 21:41 |
| * HenryG has too many tabs open, again | 21:41 | |
| HenryG | russellb: gotcha | 21:41 |
| russellb | passed check, now in gate queue | 21:42 |
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| russellb | i'm out ... thanks all | 21:42 |
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| HenryG | russellb: Thanks for everything today! | 21:42 |
| russellb | of course, happy to do my part | 21:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Add logging of agent heartbeats https://review.openstack.org/181132 | 21:57 |
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| wes__ | Question: Should attaching a Neutron router to a private network change the OVS VLAN tag on the br-int for the qdhcp port? | 22:01 |
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| wes__ | It seems that my installation is changing the tag from 10 to 7 when I attach a router, which breaks network connectivity. If I manually set the tag back to 10 on that port, things seem to work. | 22:02 |
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| HenryG | lifeless: I have sent https://review.openstack.org/182438 off to the gate. I will check in on it later tonight. | 22:11 |
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| lifeless | HenryG: cool | 22:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack/neutron: Update build hooks. https://review.openstack.org/182438 | 22:34 |
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| lifeless | HenryG: I failed at gerrit before, and fixing it failed again - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182438/ has lots its +2 (but not changed). | 22:37 |
| lifeless | erm +A | 22:37 |
| lifeless | So any cores around? we need a +A on ^ urgently | 22:38 |
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| dougwig | lifeless: done | 22:53 |
| lifeless | thanks | 22:54 |
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| HenryG | lifeless: gah, you need to remove a space between TODO and (lifeless) | 22:57 |
| HenryG | Silliest rule evah | 22:57 |
| lifeless | HenryG: oh it really did come back. | 22:57 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack/neutron: Update build hooks. https://review.openstack.org/182438 | 22:58 |
| lifeless | sorry for messing up your work russellb :) | 22:58 |
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| dougwig | HenryG: it's called "recycling prior approval" | 23:06 |
| HenryG | oooo fancy | 23:07 |
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| wes__ | Is there a better channel to get Neutron help in? | 23:09 |
| HenryG | dougwig: lifeless: With neutron not in PyPI, how is the requirements.txt for lbaas (and other repos that depend on neutron) supposed to look for now? | 23:11 |
| dougwig | HenryG: I'll upload a review in a few. | 23:11 |
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| HenryG | dougwig: are you going to mass-propose to all *aas and networking-* ? ;) ;) | 23:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Lynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Use 1st SNAT DVR host name for FIP assoc w/unbound https://review.openstack.org/179439 | 23:13 |
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| dougwig | HenryG: heh, sure. Let me get it solid and reviewed by infra once first. | 23:14 |
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| lifeless | HenryG: I think we should list neutron | 23:15 |
| lifeless | HenryG: not on pypi just means 'pip cannot find it to install it' | 23:15 |
| lifeless | HenryG: it doesn't mean 'the name is invalid' - and for neutron we own the name on pypi anyhow | 23:15 |
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| amuller | marun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1454449 | 23:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1454449 in oslo.messaging "Blocked publishers due to rabbitmq disk/memory alarm causes indefinitely frozen RPC calls with zero errors" [Undecided,New] | 23:16 |
| lifeless | HenryG: to trigger installs there are a few answers we can use, which may differ based on context. | 23:16 |
| lifeless | they are: preinstall it; use a local requirements file to specify where to get it; edit the requirements file just-in-time to have it inject | 23:16 |
| HenryG | dougwig: I was kidding. When ready, announce on the ML and let the maintainers pick up the work for their repos. | 23:16 |
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| HenryG | lifeless: For example, for tox runs? | 23:18 |
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| lifeless | so tox runs run in both CI and locally for users | 23:19 |
| lifeless | CI: there's a helper script we already run in CI that currently is editing the requirements.txt. If it didn't edit and instead just installed neutron, we're all good. | 23:19 |
| lifeless | locally for users: devs need to setup their environment already with C libraries and so on | 23:20 |
| lifeless | so add it to their instructions / automation | 23:20 |
| lifeless | if they're developng inside devstack, for instance, devstack already installs neutron, and tox there can just assume it (if you have site global dependencies present) | 23:20 |
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| HenryG | But I often just clone a repo to my home dir and run 'tox -epy27' for unit tests | 23:21 |
| HenryG | I only want neutron installed in the tox-built venv | 23:22 |
| dougwig | I think I can satisfy both cases. Gimme a few, in stuck in a meeting. | 23:22 |
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| lifeless | lets see what frankenstein dougwig is cooking up, I wouldn't want to spoil his surprise. | 23:25 |
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| dougwig | I'll make sure you're a reviewer. | 23:25 |
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