Monday, 2016-10-17

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openstackgerritDuan Jiong proposed openstack/neutron: linux/utils: fix error code match in i18n condition  https://review.openstack.org/38648800:54
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openstackgerritDuan Jiong proposed openstack/neutron: linux/utils: fix error code match in i18n condition  https://review.openstack.org/38648801:12
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openstackgerritlilintan proposed openstack/neutron-lib: To improve the method parse_mappings in helpers  https://review.openstack.org/38572201:31
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Add validator for device owner  https://review.openstack.org/38177902:33
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openstackgerritchandanc proposed openstack/neutron: IPtables enhancement for co-existence of SG and FWaaS v2 drivers  https://review.openstack.org/34817703:32
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/38636604:08
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/38714204:08
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sai_hi neutron team04:14
sai_Is anybody there who is working on networking-sfc ? please say04:15
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sai_Any networking-sfc cores04:43
sai_?04:43
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openstackgerrithuyupeng proposed openstack/neutron: Fix spelling errors  https://review.openstack.org/38575906:41
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openstackgerritRui Zang proposed openstack/neutron: Correct resource name from "floating_ip" to "floatingip"  https://review.openstack.org/38719406:58
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openstackgerritsteve proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add a new option "--provider:flooding_vtep ip_address=IP_ADDR" "[,dstport=UDPPORT]" to net-create.  https://review.openstack.org/28650407:10
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slaweq__ihrachys: hello07:47
slaweq__I made patch to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/162572407:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1625724 in neutron "some functional ovs tests are not mutually isolated" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)07:47
ihrachysslaweq__: yeap, spotted it on weekend07:48
slaweq__can You check ti in meantime: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386971/ ?07:48
ihrachysslaweq__: ack07:48
slaweq__ihrachys: thx07:48
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slaweq__but I found it only in one place07:48
slaweq__and only this one test was failing sometimes on my dev host because of that issue07:48
ihrachysslaweq__: +2. jlibosva ^07:49
ihrachysslaweq__: yeah, I think I also looked thru the code and found just that test before07:49
ihrachysslaweq__: I think it covered everything. if not, we'll handle it later when we spot another failure :)07:49
ihrachysslaweq__: thanks for taking care of that07:49
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slaweqihrachys: thx :)07:50
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jlibosvaslaweq: are you confident this is enough? I may be wrong but I think l2 framework creates patch ports by using ovs_neutron_agent code, so maybe we should also override config settings. I need to check on that07:51
openstackgerritsteve proposed openstack/neutron: Support provider:flooding_vtep in ML2  https://review.openstack.org/31589607:51
jlibosvaslaweq: ok, you're right. l2 framework generates patch port names :)07:52
slaweqjlibosva: yep07:52
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slaweqI found it only in this place in functional tests that name is not random07:52
jlibosvaslaweq++07:52
jlibosvagood stuff07:53
slaweqthx07:53
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openstackgerritJohn Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Revert "Add ALLOCATING state to routers"  https://review.openstack.org/35796607:56
openstackgerritJohn Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Don't create HA resources until needed  https://review.openstack.org/31794907:56
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openstackgerritJohn Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor L3 scheduler (unify code paths)  https://review.openstack.org/38607707:56
openstackgerritgengchc2 proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Replace 'MagicMock' with 'Mock'  https://review.openstack.org/38722907:58
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openstackgerritgengchc2 proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Fix a typo in vpnaas.filters,filters.template,and etc  https://review.openstack.org/38726008:42
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/neutron: Deprecate method ensure_dir  https://review.openstack.org/38726108:43
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Compare port_rule_masking() results with different approach  https://review.openstack.org/37640108:45
ihrachysgaryk: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382368/ please08:46
ihrachysit fixes the branch unit tests08:46
garykihrachys: done08:49
ihrachys^508:49
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "pep8: fixed F821 violation in a unit test"  https://review.openstack.org/35336208:52
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openstackgerritDuan Jiong proposed openstack/neutron: linux/utils: fix error code match in i18n condition  https://review.openstack.org/38727008:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Make ovs functional tests mutually isolated  https://review.openstack.org/38697108:58
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: objects: avoid additional fetch for prefixes on pool get  https://review.openstack.org/34847809:01
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neiljerramMorning all!  Who is Neutron's infra liaison, please?  (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons says mestery, armax, dougwig, but I wonder if the wiki is still the real source for this?)09:09
jlibosvaneiljerram: Based on my experience with project-config it's armax09:14
neiljerramjlibosva, OK, thanks!09:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Drop use of neutron's eventlet utility function  https://review.openstack.org/38671909:33
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/neutron: Deprecate method ensure_dir  https://review.openstack.org/38726109:53
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Catch the integrityError when update firewall group with non exist port  https://review.openstack.org/38732810:10
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mahHi all, Is neutron-qos service is exit by default in openstack installation or need to be configured ?10:51
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davidshamah: do you mean is it enabled by default?10:56
mahyes10:56
davidshamah: no, you need to modify the configuration files, you can find the instructions here: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/config-qos.html10:57
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mahok and is that possible if I deployed openstack using juju+ MAAS ?10:57
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davidshamah: I'm not sure, I haven't tried using those.10:58
mahbut I think in all openstack deployment that should work fine ? the deployment way is the only difference11:00
davidshamah: ya, it should, I just haven't tried, how are you deploying may I ask?11:02
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mahI still need to deploy it, it is my first time11:02
mahfirst time to use juju + MAAS , I mean11:03
davidshamah: kk.11:03
HenryGneiljerram: good morning11:03
neiljerramHenryG, hi!11:05
HenryGneiljerram: found any clues yet about what happened to deprecation warnings?11:06
neiljerramHenryG, no, I was planning to wait first in case someone seeing my email would Just Know11:06
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neiljerramHenryG, are you aware of other projects, that _are_ still showing those deprecation warnings?11:07
HenryGneiljerram: sorry, I haven't been checking11:08
HenryGneiljerram: I wasn't expecting the warnings to disappear like this11:08
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neiljerramHenryG, indeed - well it's already a useful data point for me to hear that this is also a surprise for you.11:09
HenryGneiljerram: the second log you linked to still has 5 warnings for 'oslo_middleware.ssl'11:10
neiljerramHenryG, yes indeed.11:10
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neiljerramHenryG, what is it that generates 'default::DeprecationWarning'?11:14
HenryGneiljerram: I am not sure what you mean?11:16
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HenryGneiljerram: What we want is for the environment variable PYTHONWARNINGS to have that value while the tests are run.11:17
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HenryGneiljerram: It could be that somewhere in infra it is being overridden.11:17
HenryGneiljerram: When I run the calico unit tests locally it works fine.11:18
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HenryGneiljerram: Or, I should say, I get two more warnings than the gate log.11:19
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neiljerramHenryG, oh that's interesting, I think that I don't get the warnings when I run locally... I will recheck.11:19
HenryGneiljerram: Mind you I have PYTHONWARNINGS set in my .bashrc11:20
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openstackgerritDuan Jiong proposed openstack/neutron: linux/utils: fix error code match in i18n condition  https://review.openstack.org/38727011:23
openstackgerritzhichao zhu proposed openstack/neutron: add verification when narrowing allocation pool  https://review.openstack.org/38736211:23
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HenryGneiljerram: It may be my fault, let me investigate11:29
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neiljerramHenryG, what is your .bashrc setting - perhaps I could see if that works for me too?11:30
HenryGneiljerram: No, that was a red herring11:30
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HenryGneiljerram: I inserted the use of a deprecated constant into the source code and the warning does not show up11:31
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HenryGneiljerram: I must have messed up the deprecation stuff11:32
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openstackgerritpawnesh kumar proposed openstack/neutron: Cleanup coverage configuration  https://review.openstack.org/38737111:36
neiljerramHenryG, will be afk for a while for lunch...11:37
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openstackgerritSergey Belous proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Extend Quota API to report usage statistics  https://review.openstack.org/38367311:50
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jschwarz|oooliuyulong, hey12:03
jschwarz|oooliuyulong, re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/163330612:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1633306 in neutron "Partial HA network causing HA router creation failed (race conditon)" [Undecided,New]12:04
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Fix UnboundLocalError during update firewall group.  https://review.openstack.org/38739812:15
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davidsha_mfranc213: ping12:31
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Fix UnboundLocalError during update firewall group.  https://review.openstack.org/38739812:36
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openstackgerritDongcan Ye proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Return validate msg for peer_cidrs  https://review.openstack.org/38740812:37
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davidsha_ajo: ping12:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Refactor of _convert_fwaas_to_iptables_rule and dependencies  https://review.openstack.org/38651112:39
ajohi davidsha_12:39
davidsha_ajo: hey how are you?12:40
ajodavidsha_, good :)12:40
davidsha_ajo:  all set for the Summit?12:40
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ajodavidsha_, yup :)12:40
davidsha_ajo: cool, do you think the flow manager spec is ready for another core reviewer to review?12:41
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ajodavidsha_, of course it is, you just need to find somebody able to shallow it :D12:42
davidsha_ajo: ack! I'll try and have a patch up for the WIP that brings it up to date with the spec.12:43
ajothat'd be awesome :)12:44
neiljerramHenryG, I'm back again, in case you want to continue our earlier conversation.12:44
HenryGneiljerram: I got as far as determining it's not my fault12:45
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neiljerramHenryG, that's good!12:46
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neiljerramHenryG, how did you determine that?12:46
HenryGneiljerram: I stepped through some code and it is calling debtcollector.deprecate() as designed12:47
HenryGneiljerram: Something is preventing the warnings from being emitted, but I don't know what12:48
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neiljerramHenryG, looks like exactly the same version of debtcollector being used, when it does work and when it doesn't (1.8.0, git sha 4e9...)12:51
mfranc213davidsha pong12:51
mfranc213davidsha_ pong12:54
davidsha_mfranc213: hey12:54
mfranc213hello there.  how are you?12:55
davidsha_mfranc213: not too bad, you?12:55
mfranc213sleepy :(12:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lib: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/38714213:20
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sbezverkamuller: ping13:36
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ajoobondarev, sai is presenting this on summit: https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=browbeat13:58
ajothey build on top of shaker (among other things) I thought you may like it :)13:58
obondarevajo: ah, thanks for sharing!14:00
obondarevI’ll try to be there14:00
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ajoobondarev, you're welcome :)14:07
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chandanchello kevinbenton, wanted to discuss about the conntrack patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333338/14:18
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openstackgerritRichard Theis proposed openstack/neutron: Skip set of OVSDB connection manager target  https://review.openstack.org/35880114:26
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Only send string values to OVSDB other_config column  https://review.openstack.org/38354014:38
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openstackgerritShashank Kumar Shankar proposed openstack/neutron: Integration of Port Binding Level OVO in /plugin/ml2/db.py  https://review.openstack.org/38203714:49
HenryGneiljerram: it seems to have something to do with OS_STDERR_CAPTURE (see .testr.conf)14:49
HenryGneiljerram: If I set the default to 0 the warnings reappear14:50
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neiljerramHenryG, they do indeed reappear - thanks!14:59
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HenryGneiljerram: I don't know why though, or if that is the right solution15:00
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: set_db_attribute differs between vsctl and native  https://review.openstack.org/38305415:03
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gparaskevasHello15:03
tmorinhi mestery / armax / dougwig (neutron/infra liaison): a few changes for net'-bgpvpn and net'-bagpipe are waiting for your review ... if you can find some time to have a look ( https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/project-config+AND+(owner:thomas.morin%2540orange.com+OR+owner:pierre.cregut%2540orange.com)+AND+status:open )15:04
gparaskevasI have a strange error in Mitaka/neutron/ovs/vxlan15:04
gparaskevasthe endpoints cannot be created15:05
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gparaskevasand the error on openvswitch.log -> "Interface monitor is not active"15:05
gparaskevasdoes anyone have a clue?15:05
gparaskevasalso dvr/l3_population enabled15:05
gparaskevasalso dvr/l2_population enabled*15:06
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openstackgerritShashank Kumar Shankar proposed openstack/neutron: OVO for Router Extra Attributes  https://review.openstack.org/35676615:11
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njohnston_HenryG: To which file in neutron-lib should I add the plurals things we discussed?  neutron-lib/constants.py?  A new file seems uncalled for.15:18
openstackgerritShashank Kumar Shankar proposed openstack/neutron: Integration of Router Extra Attributes OVO in neutron/db/l3_hamode_db.py  https://review.openstack.org/38120915:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Cleanup coverage configuration  https://review.openstack.org/38737115:30
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HenryGnjohnston_: api/utils.py perhaps?15:35
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openstackgerritAnindita Das proposed openstack/neutron: OVO for VlanAllocation  https://review.openstack.org/35666015:37
openstackgerritboden proposed openstack/neutron: Replace retrying with tenacity  https://review.openstack.org/36510615:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix spelling errors  https://review.openstack.org/38575915:40
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openstackgerritFrancesco Santoro proposed openstack/os-vif: os-vif: add new VIFVHostUserFP class  https://review.openstack.org/37553315:43
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/38636615:45
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: ovsfw: Raise exception if tag cannot be found in other_config  https://review.openstack.org/38754716:06
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openstackgerritArtur Korzeniewski proposed openstack/neutron: objects: Remove tenant_id from to_dict() when project_id is not set.  https://review.openstack.org/38494916:25
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korzenHenryG, ihrachys I have fixed the ^16:26
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HenryGkorzen: thanks, i'll rebase my patch on it16:26
korzenHenryG, ihrachys since we are now blocking the tenant-id to be populated into resulting dict when project-id is not set, it should pass the tests, both UT and API16:27
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njohnston_HenryG: Thanks!16:31
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: ovsfw: Raise exception if tag cannot be found in other_config  https://review.openstack.org/38754716:37
sshankmlavalle, ping?16:39
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openstackgerritNate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Migrate references from neutron to neutron-lib  https://review.openstack.org/38677316:47
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openstackgerritShashank Kumar Shankar proposed openstack/neutron: OVO for Router Extra Attributes  https://review.openstack.org/35676616:50
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Use project_id instead of tenant_id in objects  https://review.openstack.org/38265916:57
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openstackgerritManjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVO for FloatingIPDNS  https://review.openstack.org/36974417:14
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Use project_id instead of tenant_id in objects  https://review.openstack.org/38265917:38
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openstackgerritOmer Anson proposed openstack/neutron: Generate OVSDB schema helper in a separate method  https://review.openstack.org/32370717:41
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Ocata: Assessment for networking-odl  https://review.openstack.org/38391017:51
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Assessment for networking-l2gw  https://review.openstack.org/38390818:03
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openstackgerritManjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVO for FloatingIPDNS  https://review.openstack.org/36974418:21
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Write a bytestring when opening file in binary mode  https://review.openstack.org/33774718:23
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openstackgerritNate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Add plurals management  https://review.openstack.org/38761218:29
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openstackgerritSindhu Devale proposed openstack/neutron: Integration of L3HARouterNetwork OVO  https://review.openstack.org/37497318:39
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openstackgerritNakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Integration of DistributedPortBinding OVO  https://review.openstack.org/38256719:23
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openstackgerritJohn Perkins proposed openstack/neutron: Agent common config  https://review.openstack.org/34304519:25
openstackgerritTrevor McCasland proposed openstack/neutron: Add setter to status in PortContext  https://review.openstack.org/33606819:25
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openstackgerritMohit Malik proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVO for AutoAllocatedTopology  https://review.openstack.org/35750619:30
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mlavallesshank: pong19:41
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dasanind_amotoki: ping?19:45
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Remove deprecated min_l3_agents_per_router  https://review.openstack.org/38560420:23
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openstackgerritNate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Add plurals management  https://review.openstack.org/38761220:28
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: ovsfw: Raise exception if tag cannot be found in other_config  https://review.openstack.org/38754720:31
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Log OVS IDL library errors to neutron logs  https://review.openstack.org/38767220:43
amotokidasanind_: pong20:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Clean import in code  https://review.openstack.org/35854420:54
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openstackgerritManjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce OVO for quotas  https://review.openstack.org/33862520:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix typos in test_ipam_pluggable_backend.py & base.py  https://review.openstack.org/37394920:56
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dasanind_amotoki: Are we still accepting patches for python-neutronclient? There is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/1631492 which has this question?21:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1631492 in python-neutronclient "Router update help lacks HA option" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)21:09
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amotokidasanind_: yes, we are still accepting patches for neutronclient21:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/38636621:10
dasanind_amotoki: thank you21:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: neutron-lib: use dict methods from helpers  https://review.openstack.org/38438521:10
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Fix race condition in creation of fip gateway  https://review.openstack.org/38561721:11
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openstackgerritManjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Add query.one to object.db.api  https://review.openstack.org/38687521:26
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haleybarmax: so you just missed my on-demand question - have a vote on it?  it's on removal of deprecated code22:01
haleybbasically should there be a wait of 3 months from the open of ocata, even for "old" code?  i'm thinking not22:02
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openstackgerritVictor Morales proposed openstack/neutron: GeneveAllocation OVO  https://review.openstack.org/36319622:15
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armaxhaleyb: deprecated code in target for removal should be removed asap22:16
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jamielennoxhi neutron, can someone have a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386307/1 and tell me if my understanding is correct - it's a pretty easy one on deprecations22:18
jamielennoxI'm finding in the newton update that without it there's no way to not hit fatal_deprecations failures22:19
electrocucarachajamielennox: basically the depreciation message should be only displayed when it's need it, isn't it?22:21
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armaxHenryG: ping22:24
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jamielennoxelectrocucaracha: no, because if the value is not set in either place i still see the deprecation22:26
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jamielennoxi should only see the deprecation if the service_providers are actually configured in the neutron_*.conf files22:28
electrocucarachajamielennox: I could be wrong but for me the block from 112-122 from old version are going to be removed in this cycle22:28
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electrocucarachajamielennox: from my limited perspective this not a bug, it's attempting to read a value from a previous defined place, this previous place (neutron_*.conf files) will be invalid for Ocata22:31
jamielennoxelectrocucaracha: right - and that's fine, i'm not actually using the block22:31
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jamielennoxso  providers = cfg.CONF.service_providers.service_provider returns [] - because i don't have anything defined in the config file22:31
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jamielennox(or None, would need to check the default)22:32
jamielennoxthen i get a deprecation warning even though the value is not being set in the neutron_*.conf file either22:32
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jamielennoxso the whole function is going to return [], it should just do it without giving me a deprecation warning22:33
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electrocucarachajamielennox: got it, so maybe the target needs to be changed to newton22:35
jamielennoxelectrocucaracha: typically with this you propose to master and backport22:35
jamielennoxbecause it's still wrong in master22:35
electrocucarachajamielennox: and make sure that self.ini().service_providers.service_provider is not raising an exception22:35
jamielennoxi'm not sure how to check the exception, what would be thrown etc on self.ini()22:36
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electrocucarachajamielennox: well, AFAIK master is open for ocata development so that second attempt will be dropped soon22:36
jamielennoxright, but anyone running from master is going to hit that same problem until it is dropped22:37
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jamielennoxseems silly to fix the bug in a released version but not in master first22:38
HenryGarmax: pong22:38
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electrocucarachajamielennox: I think that the solution applies differently, in newton the solution that you proposed, in coat the removal of the section, but I could be wrong22:40
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electrocucarachas/coat/ocata22:40
HenryGelectrocucaracha: jamielennox: I think it's OK to apply a patch in master, backport it, then remove it from master22:42
jamielennoxelectrocucaracha: i don't disagree, but i'm not a neutron developer and i have no idea how long it will be before deprecation cleanups like that are actually done, in most projects this would be the fastest way to get things done22:42
jamielennoxoh yea, feel free to delete it ASAP22:42
electrocucarachathanks HenryG, I wasn't sure about the process to follow for fixes in previous releases22:43
electrocucarachajamielennox: me too, I'm learning the different timeframes22:44
jamielennoxHenryG: thanks, can you give https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386307/ a quick review, i'd like to get the backport going22:45
jamielennoxotherwise i'm going to have to figure out some way to kill it locally22:45
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HenryGjamielennox: done22:49
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HenryGelectrocucaracha: The master commit is the first thing reviewers look for when reviewing a patch to stable branch22:51
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openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Don't prefetch resource fields on DELETE  https://review.openstack.org/38770823:09
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openstackgerritShashank Kumar Shankar proposed openstack/neutron: Integration of Port Binding Level OVO in /plugin/ml2/db.py  https://review.openstack.org/38203723:19
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dasmarmax: hey. question about that one: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2016-10-17.log.html#t2016-10-17T22:16:4323:35
armaxdasm: shoot23:36
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dasmdoes it mean, that even if there is no 3 months after deprecating, and we're currently in N+1 release, code also should be removed ASAP?23:36
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dasmi have a bunch of deprecations in queue. currently un-W-1 all older than 3 months. but still some code is left.23:36
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openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Fix internal server error on QoS rule PUT  https://review.openstack.org/38772323:38
dasmsome of them can be spotted in this link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Darek+Smigiel+%253Csmigiel.dariusz%2540gmail.com%253E%22+Removed23:39
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Introduce API definition for trunk/trunk_details extensions  https://review.openstack.org/35313123:43
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dasmarmax: ^ bbl23:44
armaxdasm: you’re making me wonder if I understand what I am being asked23:44
armaxif the code is marked for deprecation and removal in a cycle being active23:45
armaxwhy are we waiting 3 months?23:45
armaxis this rule written somewhere because 3 months is a light year in OpenStack terms23:45
armaxeven though a light year is a unit of distance!23:46
haleybarmax: that's the rule, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/effective_neutron.html?highlight=deprecate#deprecation23:48
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* armax reads23:49
haleybor maybe i'm messing-up the question, but that's the deprecation policy, and similar to the overall openstack policy23:50
haleybhence my question earlier23:50
armaxI did not endorse this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296664/ :)23:51
haleybpropose a revert :-p23:51
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haleybit's based off an openstack policy23:51
armaxreading http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html#requirements23:51
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armaxthe linear 3 months is the span of a milestone23:53
haleybright, but i believe it must cross a release boundary to be safe23:53
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armaxhistorically we hardly ever manage to deprecate stuff in the last milestone23:54
haleybarmax: the only one we'll break is vmware, and they'll notice it within 24 hours :)23:54
armaxright, but for things like API, config options etc23:54
armaxwe never ever are this fast in removing code23:54
armaxhaleyb: perhaps you should have phrased this different23:55
armaxly23:55
haleybno, agreed, but some people treat all class definitions with an _ to be an API, right?23:55
armaxcan you point me to the review that prompted your question?23:55
armaxit’s not a user facing API23:56
armaxit’s a developer API23:56
haleybarmax: mine was with https://review.openstack.org/385604 but it started with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384211/23:56
armaxand developers must code faster23:56
armaxotherwise i’ts gonna take forever to make progress23:56
haleybarmax: i agree, we have to keep moving, i put it on the meeting agenda so we all would get in-sync, not to be a pain in the...23:57
armaxthen we should loop in HenryG23:57
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armaxand get a better sense as to why he thinks we gotta wait 3 months for that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384211/23:58
armaxwe should probably make amends to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/effective_neutron.html?highlight=deprecate#deprecation23:59
armaxand that’s something I wanted to follow up with HenryG anyway23:59
armaxincidentally I made a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337731/23:59

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