| armax | which is somewhat tangential to this topic | 00:00 |
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| haleyb | i hadn't seen that yet, will take a look, but need to remove myself from this desk now | 00:01 |
| armax | I think we should exercise some judgement on when to be conservative | 00:01 |
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| armax | and when the benefit of a short term breakage outweighs the benefit of a deprecation cycle | 00:01 |
| armax | ack | 00:02 |
| HenryG | The 3 month wait thing came from somewhere outside neutron IIRC | 00:02 |
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| HenryG | Maybe that means it only applies for inter-project dependencies, and the projects that integrate with Neutron fall in a different category | 00:03 |
| HenryG | I mean, then don't integrate with neutron in the same way as Nova, for instance | 00:04 |
| HenryG | armax: haleyb: ^^ | 00:04 |
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| armax | right | 00:05 |
| armax | I agree | 00:05 |
| armax | and for those interproject dependencies I agree | 00:05 |
| armax | and it’s usually honored automatically because it’s going to take typically two cycles to deprecated | 00:05 |
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| armax | *deprecate | 00:05 |
| armax | but for intra stadium depedencies | 00:06 |
| HenryG | and config items | 00:06 |
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| armax | I expect people to stay on their toes | 00:06 |
| armax | otherwise we’re just weighing ourselves down | 00:06 |
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| HenryG | What about network-foo that are not in the stadium? | 00:06 |
| armax | that makes no difference | 00:07 |
| HenryG | Like open-contrail | 00:07 |
| armax | if people care about their projects they’ll stay hooked | 00:07 |
| armax | whether they’re in the stadium or not | 00:08 |
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| armax | if they have deprecation warnings set | 00:08 |
| armax | they will address them as promptly as they come | 00:08 |
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| HenryG | OK, so what do you want the "stadium" deprecation rule to be? Two weeks? | 00:09 |
| armax | an artificial 3 months deadline is not gonna incentive them to | 00:09 |
| armax | comply sooner | 00:09 |
| armax | I don’t think we can make a hard and fast rule | 00:09 |
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| armax | we need to exercise caution and judgement in each particular case | 00:09 |
| armax | not every change has the same impact | 00:09 |
| armax | for some changes I’d even argue that we can use 0 weeks | 00:10 |
| armax | i.e. no deprecation at all | 00:10 |
| armax | otherwise we’re gonna litter our queues with TODO/cleanup patches for no good reason | 00:10 |
| amotoki | I tend to agree with armax that we can do incompatible changes which affect only stadium project developers without deprecation or with shorter depreciation period. | 00:14 |
| amotoki | I think it works if we document or gather information on what happens and how they should handle incompatible changes. | 00:15 |
| amotoki | IIRC previously we tried to document incompatible changes which affect stadium projects (mainly plugin developers at that time) in a wiki page. | 00:15 |
| armax | amotoki: right | 00:16 |
| armax | I think that a deprecation warning is equivalent to a breakage with an exact and documented path for recovery | 00:17 |
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| amotoki | armax: totally agree. if we drop something in a same cycle, they cannot avoid the change in neutron-side in that cycle. | 00:18 |
| amotoki | they need to do it sooner or later in a same cycle | 00:18 |
| armax | at one point this was being filled up: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/doc/source/devref/neutron_api.rst | 00:18 |
| armax | not sure what happened to it | 00:19 |
| armax | introducing a deprecation cycle for that is only gonna introduce a false sense of stability | 00:19 |
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| armax | as for the projects that don’t keep up the breakages are gonna compound when the deprecation is evicted | 00:20 |
| armax | thus making the triage worse | 00:20 |
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| amotoki | Another place is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LibraryAPIBreakage | 00:22 |
| amotoki | we seem to drop the contents from the wiki page | 00:22 |
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| armax | amotoki: now that I have you here | 00:25 |
| armax | please see my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348097/ | 00:25 |
| armax | if you respin/agree then we can move on this quickly | 00:25 |
| amotoki | armax: ack. just looking. I will spin it soon after I get off a train. | 00:26 |
| armax | amotoki: cool | 00:27 |
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| HenryG | armax: One way to see "who is paying attention now" would be to remove the deprecations from constants, exceptions and attributes. | 00:30 |
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| armax | HenryG: I would like to talk to you about how we approach deprecations for neutron-lib stuff | 00:31 |
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| armax | because I fault them to be one of the things that slow us down | 00:31 |
| HenryG | They certainly do | 00:31 |
| armax | for simple replacements | 00:31 |
| armax | I see no point in having the deprecation in place | 00:31 |
| armax | it’s hurting more than helping | 00:32 |
| armax | honestly | 00:32 |
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| HenryG | armax: So the release notes when a new lib version is adopted should be enough? | 00:34 |
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| armax | let’s talk in more details another time, I must dash now | 00:34 |
| HenryG | have fun | 00:35 |
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| dasm | haleyb: thanks for weigh in | 00:40 |
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| dasm | armax: sorry for asking not in plain english, but i think the discussion after that is really helpful | 00:44 |
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| jamielennox | HenryG, amotoki: thanks for merging the deprecation one, here's the backport: https://review.openstack.org/387756 | 02:39 |
| jamielennox | electrocucaracha: FYI ^ | 02:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Use ensure_tree from oslo_utils.fileutils https://review.openstack.org/384202 | 08:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: neutron-lib: use replace_file from neutron lib https://review.openstack.org/384215 | 08:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | steve proposed openstack/neutron: Support provider:flooding_vtep in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/315896 | 09:01 |
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| Carry_M | Hi | 09:09 |
| Carry_M | I installed neutron-mettering-agent on my neutron server. it works with nod error. But the data of meter labels dosn't captured by ceilometer. | 09:10 |
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| trinaths | Carry_M | 09:12 |
| Carry_M | the ceilometer is also works without error. | 09:12 |
| Carry_M | trinaths, yes | 09:12 |
| trinaths | Carry_M: please post your query into ML so that it can reach wider audiance t | 09:12 |
| trinaths | to answer your doubts | 09:13 |
| Carry_M | trinaths, thanks. for suggestion. ML stand for what? | 09:13 |
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| trinaths | mailing list | 09:13 |
| trinaths | it really helps you to resolve the issue quickly. | 09:13 |
| Carry_M | trinaths: OK, thanks for your suggestion. | 09:14 |
| Carry_M | It means, nobody there to help right now? | 09:14 |
| Carry_M | In IRC? | 09:14 |
| trinaths | Also, when to post your query in ML, give much information so that its easy to answer | 09:14 |
| trinaths | it doesn't mean that | 09:15 |
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| Carry_M | trinaths. OK, not a problem :) | 09:15 |
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| annp | rossella_s, Hi | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | steve proposed openstack/neutron: Support provider:flooding_vtep in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/315896 | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | steve proposed openstack/neutron: Add Linux bridge agent support remote VXLAN VTEP https://review.openstack.org/316596 | 09:24 |
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| annp | rossella_s, I've updated my answers for your comment in my patch-set (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/). | 09:24 |
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| annp | rossella_s, Would you mind helping me review it? | 09:26 |
| rossella_s | annp, I will put it on my list | 09:26 |
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| annp | rossella_s, And i have another question. I should update expected implementation session in my patch-set follow your comment, shouldn't i? | 09:28 |
| annp | rossella_s, Thanks for your time. :) | 09:29 |
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| annp | rossella_s, next week, Will you come to Barcenola? | 09:30 |
| rossella_s | annp, yes I will | 09:30 |
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| rossella_s | annp, I will review it in the next hours and answer your questions | 09:31 |
| annp | rossella_s, I'm looking forward to see you there. :) | 09:32 |
| rossella_s | annp, :) | 09:32 |
| openstackgerrit | steve proposed openstack/neutron: Support provider:flooding_vtep in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/315896 | 09:33 |
| annp | rossella_s, yes, i will wait for your feedback. Thanks. | 09:34 |
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| masterjcool | My VMs lose ipv4 address every once in a while. Stopping neutron-dhcp-agent, killing the dnsmasq process for the corresponding project, and then starting neutron-dhcp-agent helps. | 09:36 |
| masterjcool | What could be going on? | 09:37 |
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| masterjcool | It looks like the dhcp agent just isn't responding to the client. If I inspect the /var/lib/neutron/dhcp/<netid>/host file, the vm without ipv4 addr is missing frmo the list. | 09:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Artur Korzeniewski proposed openstack/neutron: Use project_id instead of tenant_id in objects https://review.openstack.org/382659 | 09:39 |
| korzen | HenryG, I have fixed the UT in ^ | 09:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | steve proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVS agent support remote VXLAN VTEP https://review.openstack.org/317309 | 09:43 |
| openstackgerrit | steve proposed openstack/neutron: Support provider:flooding_vtep in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/315896 | 09:43 |
| openstackgerrit | steve proposed openstack/neutron: Add Linux bridge agent support remote VXLAN VTEP https://review.openstack.org/316596 | 09:43 |
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| winggundamth | hi. anyone know about "Neutron error: No more fixed IPs in network" error? seems like it not recycle my subnet unused ip addresses. | 11:35 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379468/ | 11:38 |
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| Alex_Stef | otherwiseguy, hi | 11:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Fix UnboundLocalError during update firewall group. https://review.openstack.org/387398 | 12:12 |
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| njohnston | ajo: ping | 12:17 |
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| ajo | hi njohnston pong :) | 12:24 |
| njohnston | ajo: Hi! I was wondering, do you think we need to have a QoS meeting tomorrow? I doubt there will be a lot of updates, right before the summit. | 12:25 |
| ajo | njohnston, I was also thinking about canceling | 12:25 |
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| ajo | makes a lot of sense | 12:25 |
| njohnston | ajo: And what about the one after? Seems like we'll all be recovering :-) | 12:26 |
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| njohnston | ajo: I'll send out an email | 12:28 |
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| ralonsoh | ajo, njohnston: when is the QoS meeting? | 12:31 |
| ralonsoh | during the summit | 12:31 |
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| ajo | ralonsoh, I'd say some time around friday? :) | 12:36 |
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| ralonsoh | ajo: cool | 12:36 |
| ralonsoh | ajo: I'll be there | 12:37 |
| ajo | ralonsoh, awesome!, I thought you wouldn't | 12:37 |
| ajo | (for some reason) | 12:37 |
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| njohnston | ralonsoh: Excellent! I look forward to meeting you. | 12:37 |
| ralonsoh | ajo: me too! But finally I can | 12:38 |
| ajo | oh, awesome :D | 12:38 |
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| slaweq | ajo: hello | 12:49 |
| slaweq | I also will be there | 12:49 |
| slaweq | please write me if You will have details about when and where it will be, thx | 12:49 |
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| * slaweq looks forward to seeing njohnston again :) | 12:50 | |
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| slaweq | :) | 12:51 |
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| ajo | slaweq, great :D | 13:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] fullstack: test dvr router functionality https://review.openstack.org/318307 | 13:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Morales proposed openstack/neutron: OVO Gre Allocation Endpoints https://review.openstack.org/361289 | 13:52 |
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| masterjcool | Is multicast support in neutron something that is being worked on? | 13:55 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: We are away of pycparser failures in the gate and working to address the issue. | 14:05 | |
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| ihrachys | tmorin: may I ask you to fill in missing details in bgpvpn/bagpipe stadium assessments? | 14:07 |
| tmorin | ihrachys: hi | 14:07 |
| tmorin | ihrachys: well, I can do it | 14:07 |
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| ihrachys | if you think there are better candidates, feel free to relay | 14:07 |
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| tmorin | ihrachys: i'm surprised though, because initial discussions with armax lead us to understand *he* was going to do a first pass | 14:08 |
| ihrachys | tmorin: oh | 14:08 |
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| tmorin | ihrachys: but I could certainly do that | 14:08 |
| ihrachys | tmorin: those two are suspiciously the only ones sitting with no replies. | 14:08 |
| tmorin | ihrachys: the other thing is that I'm not external enough to provide an unbiased conclusion at the end of the scorecard | 14:08 |
| ihrachys | tmorin: but maybe I miss the idea of armax for those, and indeed we should wait for his assessement | 14:09 |
| ihrachys | tmorin: probably, nevermind :) | 14:09 |
| tmorin | ihrachys: we've been busy adding tox/project-config jobs in the last few days -- maybe he's waiting, maybe he's busy with other things | 14:09 |
| ihrachys | tmorin: ack, sorry for bothering then. | 14:09 |
| tmorin | ihrachys: no, no, don't be sorry :) | 14:10 |
| tmorin | ihrachys: by the way, I'm fighting with our tox cover target, I'd want it to cover all the packages in our repo (networking_bgpvpn, but also networking_bgpvpn_heat, networking_bgpvpn_tempest, and bgpvpn_dashboard) ... I haven't found yet how I can do that... any idea ? | 14:11 |
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| ihrachys | tmorin: I don't have any experience with coverage tool | 14:12 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: are they in separate repos? | 14:12 |
| tmorin | I've seen a few project use "python setup.py test --coverage --coverage-package-name=<package>" instead of "python setup.py testr --coverage" | 14:12 |
| tmorin | HenryG: no, same repo, same tox.ini | 14:12 |
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| tmorin | hi HenryG | 14:12 |
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| tmorin | in our setup the cookiecuter inherited command (python setup.py testr --coverage) seems to only produce data for one of our packages | 14:13 |
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| tmorin | and "python setup.py test --coverage --coverage-package-name=<foo>", allows us to choose only one | 14:14 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: ok, I have not come across that situation before | 14:15 |
| tmorin | HenryG: ok... until we find a better way, I think we'll only cover the key package... | 14:16 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: Have you tried running multiple commands, one for each package? | 14:17 |
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| tmorin | HenryG: I've thought about doing that, but I think I have to first find how to have the result stored somewhere else than in the one .coverage file, or I expect the results on a run to be overwritten by the following run | 14:18 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: ack | 14:19 |
| tmorin | there is a "python-coverage run -a" option, that does an append, but I haven't found how carry this flag through "python setup.py test --coverage" ... | 14:19 |
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| tmorin | "python-coverage run" also has a --source=a,b,c that would allow specifying multiple directories | 14:20 |
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| tmorin | but again, I havhaven't found how carry this through the "python setup.py test --coverage" call ... | 14:21 |
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| ihrachys | dasm: are you on track to join https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17023/release-management-newton-retrospective-ocata-schedule-and-more-release-process-improvements ? | 14:31 |
| dasm | ihrachys: hey. i wanted to reach you today. unfortunately i'm not at Summit :/ | 14:32 |
| ihrachys | oh | 14:32 |
| ihrachys | dmellado: ^ meaning, I will probably need to represent neutron there and won't get to the tempest plugin discussion | 14:32 |
| dmellado | ihrachys: I can live with jlibosva2 | 14:32 |
| dmellado | xD | 14:32 |
| dmellado | would that work? | 14:33 |
| dasm | ihrachys: thanks | 14:33 |
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| dmellado | not that I'll be living with him, but you know what I mean xD | 14:33 |
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| ihrachys | dmellado: last time I checked, I was not an authority for jlibosva, you better check with him. | 14:33 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: dmellado I haven't planned my summit days yet. Though I'd like to attend the tempest plugin disucssion | 14:34 |
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| dmellado | jlibosva: ack, thanks! | 14:34 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: there is a bunch of related bits that you may want to know before joining that I happen to know. reach to me any time and I will try to fill any gaps you may have. | 14:35 |
| tmorin | HenryG: fyi I've a solution | 14:35 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: k, thanks. I'll reach out to you at the least convenient time then :) | 14:35 |
| tmorin | the starting point is that the pbr option is --coverage-package-name while I wanted to specify multiple package names | 14:35 |
| tmorin | but pbr passes this option as-is into coverage --source option, so I now know that I can give it multiple package names | 14:36 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: mimicking me? how kind of you. | 14:36 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: cool | 14:38 |
| ihrachys | dasm: reach me out in case you have something you want me to raise on that session on your behalf | 14:38 |
| ihrachys | dasm: I will be there, and I will fill you in after the summit on any news. | 14:38 |
| tmorin | HenryG, ihrachys: I'm testing right now, but "python setup.py test --coverage --coverage-package-name=networking_bgpvpn,networking_bgpvpn_heat,networking_bgpvpn_tempest,bgpvpn_dashboard --testr-args='{posargs}'" should do the trick | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Shashank Kumar Shankar proposed openstack/neutron: Integration of Port Binding Level OVO in /plugin/ml2/db.py https://review.openstack.org/382037 | 14:38 |
| dasm | ihrachys: thanks. hopefully, it'll be your last time as release liason :) | 14:38 |
| ihrachys | dasm: I am not one, I am there only to report on our newton progress; and to represent our new liaison ;) | 14:39 |
| dasm | ihrachys: :) | 14:39 |
| * tmorin thinking about posting a pbr patch to rename --coverage-package-name option into --coverage-package-nameS ;-P | 14:39 | |
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| ihrachys | tmorin: more like adding a new option | 14:40 |
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| tmorin | ihrachys: yes, joke aside, it makes sense to add a new option just acting as a synonymous for the existing one, and a doc fix | 14:41 |
| ihrachys | yea | 14:41 |
| ihrachys | IF it makes sense | 14:41 |
| ihrachys | maybe doc is enough :) | 14:41 |
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| tmorin | ihrachys: a slightly bogus variable/method/option name can be sooo misleading you know... | 14:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Add plurals management https://review.openstack.org/387612 | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] fullstack: test dvr router functionality https://review.openstack.org/318307 | 14:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: DNM: Fix device_exists() failures https://review.openstack.org/388052 | 14:46 |
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| sbezverk | rossella_s: ping | 14:49 |
| rossella_s | sbezverk, pong | 14:50 |
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| sbezverk | rossella_s: could you take a look at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1634123 | 14:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1634123 in neutron "neutron openvswitch agent exits if unix:/var/run/openvswitch/db.sock is not yet created" [High,New] | 14:51 |
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| sbezverk | rossella_s: curious how difficult would be to implement this fix.. | 14:51 |
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| * rossella_s looking | 14:51 | |
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| rossella_s | sbezverk, I think it's easy | 14:54 |
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| rossella_s | sbezverk, we need to modify here https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/openvswitch/agent/ovs_neutron_agent.py#L2172 , check if the error is due to ovs not being up and add a retry mechanism | 14:55 |
| sbezverk | rossella_s: could you take care of it ;-) or guide me either way works | 14:55 |
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| rossella_s | sbezverk, is what I wrote enough to get started? | 14:56 |
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| sbezverk | rossella_s: would be good to have an example how in nuetron you guys use retry mechanism.. | 14:57 |
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| rossella_s | sbezverk, have a look at neutron/db/api.py ...search for retry | 14:59 |
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| rossella_s | sbezverk, that's usually to retry a db operation but you can adapt it | 15:00 |
| sbezverk | rossella_s: ok I will give it a shot, thank you | 15:00 |
| rossella_s | sbezverk, add me as a reviewer, we can work on it together if you get stuck, thanks! | 15:01 |
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| ihrachys | garyk: no need to recheck, there is ongoing infra issue with pycparser | 15:18 |
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| otherwiseguy | Alex_Stef: very late "hi" | 15:35 |
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| maticue | Hi everyone, I have an environment where two VMs on the same compute node with one interface each of them. If I run "iperf -s" on one of them and "iperf -c IP_ADDRESS" on the other node, I see no more than "1.16 Gbits/sec" of bandwidth. All this infrastructure is 10Gbps. What do you think should I check to find the limit? | 15:59 |
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| haleyb | maticue: if they are both on the same compute node then packets are most likely just traversing an OVS or linux bridge, never hitting the "wire" | 16:02 |
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| maticue | haleyb, right, in this case is OVS... but don't know where I can find this limit | 16:03 |
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| haleyb | maticue: what virt driver? that could impact throughput. Also, this is doing everything in software, so you'll never see 10G since you'd need hardware acceleration to get that | 16:05 |
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| maticue | haleyb, <model type='virtio'/>. And yes, you're right I'll never see 10G, however I'd like to find where is it the limit. | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | korzen: would be cool if you can eyeball ^ and tell me what's missing | 16:08 |
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| korzen | ihrachys, ok, I was going to look into it today | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | thanks :) | 16:08 |
| korzen | ihrachys, it is already dark at my place but... ;) | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | yeah, same thing here :) | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | it will wait till tomorrow | 16:10 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: pycparser 2.16 released to fix assertion error from today. | 16:11 | |
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| haleyb | maticue: virtio should be good. trying to debug a performance issue like this in irc is really difficult as there are a lot of variables - software versions, network path (virtio->linux bridge->OVS->linux bridge->virtio is tyipcal with security groups enabled), MTU, CPUs, nic settings, etc | 16:17 |
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| maticue | haleyb, yes, that's true, however the list that you just shared with me confirm some things that I was planning to look and new ones like CPUs | 16:19 |
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| haleyb | maticue: a lot comes down to the hardware you're using | 16:21 |
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| maticue | haleyb, you're right... they are unloaded good servers, but who knows... I remember that there was a software to measure and find where were this perfomance network issues... I'll look for that | 16:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/neutron: prevents noa from exiting if ovsdb socket not yet created https://review.openstack.org/388105 | 16:30 |
| sbezverk | rossella_s: please take a look when you have a moment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388105/ | 16:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/neutron: OVO for Ipam(Allocation,Subnet,Pool) https://review.openstack.org/360799 | 16:33 |
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| rossella_s | sbezverk, thanks, will look at it tomorrow | 16:44 |
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| dasanind_ | kevinbenton: ping? | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shashank Kumar Shankar proposed openstack/neutron: OVO for Router Extra Attributes https://review.openstack.org/356766 | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohit Malik proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVO for AutoAllocatedTopology https://review.openstack.org/357506 | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohit Malik proposed openstack/neutron: Make OVO exception NeutronDbObjectDuplicateEntry retriable https://review.openstack.org/377084 | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohit Malik proposed openstack/neutron: Move OVO exceptions to neutron/objects/exceptions https://review.openstack.org/357787 | 16:55 |
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| manjeets | mlavalle, ^^^^ | 18:41 |
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| scarlisle | Howdy | 20:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Migrate references from neutron to neutron-lib https://review.openstack.org/386773 | 20:19 |
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| scarlisle | I'm trying to see if there's a way to treat the addition of security group rules to a default security group as different than adding them to a regular security group. Is there a way to do this via the policies in Mitaka? | 20:24 |
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| mlavalle | boden: ping | 20:29 |
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| boden | mlavalle: pong | 20:29 |
| mlavalle | boden: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365106/, since the line I highlighte in the commit message is in the future tense, I understood it as a 'todo' | 20:31 |
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| mlavalle | boden: but is not really important. I am fine with it | 20:32 |
| boden | mlavalle: I see… It was intended to mean UTs will be in the patch if applicable.. | 20:32 |
| mlavalle | boden: not important.... I +1 it anyway | 20:33 |
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| boden | mlavalle: thanks for your attention to detail! | 20:37 |
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| mlavalle | boden: :-) | 20:38 |
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| njohnston | boden: quick question for you | 20:43 |
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| njohnston | boden: If I wanted to start going through my tests and replacing instances of "from neutron.tests import base" with something in neutron-lib, is that ready yet? I see neutron_lib.tests._base, but that seems non-equivalent - especially missing setup_rpc_mocks is what I am noticing at the moment. | 20:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anindita Das proposed openstack/neutron-lib: api-ref: Fix api-ref for service-providers https://review.openstack.org/358396 | 20:46 |
| boden | njohnston: I don’t know that we have that in lib, or if we plan to provide the equivalent in lib.. HenryG did some work in that area. Any comments Henry? | 20:50 |
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| HenryG | njohnston: boden: tests._base is currently private because we originally thought that neutron-lib would not provide test infra. | 20:53 |
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| HenryG | However, we have more or less come to the conclusion that we do need to provide something. | 20:54 |
| njohnston | neutron.tests.base is probably the #1 thing imported into FWaaS by import count | 20:54 |
| njohnston | out of neutron | 20:54 |
| HenryG | njohnston: right, but there are complications due to spaghettiness and tangled ball of yarn issues. | 20:55 |
| njohnston | HenryG: Understood; what do you think is the best way to move forward on this then? | 20:57 |
| HenryG | njohnston: Step #0 is to agree that we want to go down this path. I have not heard any objections, so I think we are good to go. | 20:58 |
| HenryG | I am not sure how armax wants to formalize (and disseminate) the decision. | 20:59 |
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| HenryG | Then I think the next best step is to put all the nicely decoupled bits into neutron-lib first. | 21:00 |
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| HenryG | Then start looking at what's left and why it is coupled, and make plans for decoupling. | 21:01 |
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| njohnston | HenryG boden: I will add this to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-neutron-lib-next-steps if it's all right with you | 21:01 |
| njohnston | seems the proper venue | 21:01 |
| HenryG | njohnston: yep, I started the bullet at line 8 | 21:02 |
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| njohnston | Thanks! | 21:03 |
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