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| chinmay_ | rgerganov : hi | 08:59 |
| chinmay_ | are you there ? | 08:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Pownall proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: pull vm_mode and auto_disk_config from image when rescue. https://review.openstack.org/164940 | 09:29 |
| veena | What are the configurations to be done for neutron to use SRIOV functionality? I have installed devstack stable icehouse version. I see that in icehouse SRIOV for neutron was implemented and nova changes were not complete. | 09:30 |
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| rgerganov | chinmay_: hi | 09:40 |
| rgerganov | what's up | 09:40 |
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| chinmay_ | rgerganov: i was trying this patch out : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135625/33 | 09:44 |
| chinmay_ | but im not seeing much increase in speed... | 09:44 |
| rgerganov | what type of images do you use? flat, sparse, streamOptimized? | 09:44 |
| chinmay_ | How much increase in speed you're observing with the patch ? | 09:44 |
| chinmay_ | flat or sparse mainly | 09:44 |
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| rgerganov | well, I don't have any numbers right now but it should give some notable improvement for flat and sparse | 09:45 |
| chinmay_ | But i saw a significance improvement with this patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72545/6/nova/virt/vmwareapi/vmware_images.py | 09:46 |
| chinmay_ | which is a very old one :) | 09:46 |
| chinmay_ | here's my stats: | 09:46 |
| chinmay_ | 1 GB flat, almost 4 minutes | 09:46 |
| chinmay_ | with the old patch, close to 2 minutes | 09:47 |
| chinmay_ | almost more than half | 09:47 |
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| rgerganov | so basically there is a trade-off | 09:48 |
| chinmay_ | I think iterating through the chunks, (your older approach) seems to be a better option. | 09:48 |
| rgerganov | I have been told by Arnaud that removing the blocking queue (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72545) is better for single transfers | 09:49 |
| rgerganov | but degrades when running many concurrent image transfers | 09:50 |
| chinmay_ | sorry,right, it was Arnold's patch, | 09:50 |
| rgerganov | to be honest, I haven't tested this myself | 09:50 |
| rgerganov | np, I am very familiar with this patch :) | 09:50 |
| rgerganov | I really need to take some time and do benchmarks | 09:51 |
| chinmay_ | However, with Arnold's patch, im seeing some intermitter issues, when sparse disk is used, vcenter throws the error saying "a specified parameter is incorrect " or similar | 09:52 |
| rgerganov | hm, there is a bug about this which is not related to the image transfer | 09:53 |
| rgerganov | sec. | 09:53 |
| chinmay_ | i was trying and comparing these two patches, in my environment, the old patch is clearly the winner... | 09:53 |
| chinmay_ | ill let you know the exact timings also... | 09:53 |
| rgerganov | chinmay_: they are orthogonal, we can have both | 09:54 |
| chinmay_ | Thats right, agree | 09:54 |
| rgerganov | I think you may be hitting this bug when using sparse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1240373 | 09:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1240373 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VMware: Sparse glance vmdk's size property is mistaken for capacity" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Radoslav Gerganov (rgerganov) | 09:54 |
| chinmay_ | But he said, "So, I am working on a another fix to speed up the image transfer by basically bypassing vCenter when spawning the VM" | 09:54 |
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| rgerganov | chinmay_: if you can do some benchmarks with multiple concurrent uploads that will be awesome | 09:55 |
| chinmay_ | ill give it a shot, didnt try concurrent boots with the patches | 09:56 |
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| rgerganov | chinmay_: ok, thanks! | 09:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Deepak C Shetty proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Use 'relative' flag for online snapshot's commit/rebase operations https://review.openstack.org/168805 | 10:55 |
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| mriedem | lascii: is this all kosher for upgrades? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157185/ | 13:58 |
| mriedem | lascii: assuming the _CellProxy stuff handles the backwards compat here | 13:58 |
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| lascii | mriedem: we don't guarantee backwards compat for cells, as it's untested. But the serializer should handle it properly assuming conductor is in use | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | alaski: does anyone run cells w/o conductor? | 14:01 |
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| dansmith | heh | 14:01 |
| mriedem | so i guess the point is it doesn't matter | 14:01 |
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| alaski | mriedem: essentially, yes | 14:02 |
| alaski | for a while we've relied on big bang upgrades for cells | 14:02 |
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| alaski | another thing to add is that cells isn't fully on objects yet. we're going to tackle that in L and then we could look at backwards compat upgrades | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: use oslo.vmware methods for handling tokens https://review.openstack.org/125073 | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | alaski: is there a test skip patch still floating in project-config somewhere? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | was wondering about a recheck for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160506/ | 14:11 |
| alaski | mriedem: looks like it merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166396/ | 14:12 |
| alaski | mriedem: I'm not aware of anything else | 14:12 |
| mriedem | ok, rechecking | 14:12 |
| mriedem | alaski: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160506/ then the last thing to get the cells job passing? | 14:13 |
| alaski | mriedem: as far as I'm aware of. but of course we'll see what Jenkins says | 14:13 |
| dansmith | wow, really? | 14:13 |
| mriedem | yeah, looks like it was unhappy with several negative quota tests | 14:14 |
| dansmith | I'm not sure how to function in a world where cells passes tests | 14:14 |
| mriedem | well if you skip enough, it passes eventually L) | 14:14 |
| mriedem | :) | 14:14 |
| alaski | dansmith: heh, more at ease I would hope | 14:14 |
| dansmith | I dunno, I'll tell you after it merges :) | 14:14 |
| mriedem | speaking of, should we skip test_volume_boot_pattern in the ceph job for now? | 14:15 |
| dansmith | mriedem: sure, but they have done a lot of fixing | 14:15 |
| * mriedem checks latest jenkins | 14:15 | |
| mriedem | *logstash | 14:15 |
| alaski | mriedem: the quota failures should all be related to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170301/ | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: test still failing on the ceph job though http://goo.gl/gucLDU | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | although, | 14:19 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, I still think we're missing some bits, | 14:19 |
| mriedem | looks like it's only cinder v2? | 14:19 |
| sdague | mriedem: there is still something wrong with multiple networks and cells | 14:20 |
| dansmith | what do you mean? | 14:20 |
| mriedem | dansmith: there is a cinder v1 and v2 API test_volume_boot_pattern test | 14:20 |
| mriedem | i'm only seeing the v2 test failing in logstash | 14:20 |
| dansmith | mriedem: are we running the v1 one? | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: yeah, both get run | 14:21 |
| mriedem | nvm they both fail :) | 14:21 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/81/169781/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph/dd0c5a2/console.html | 14:21 |
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| dansmith | that sounds more like it :) | 14:24 |
| dansmith | I need to sync up with jbernard today and see where we are on that | 14:24 |
| mriedem | I'm not sure how to function in a world where test_volume_boot_pattern passes tests | 14:24 |
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| sdague | mriedem: you mean the world that we actually know that boot from volume works in some config? :) | 14:27 |
| mriedem | yes that world | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | ignoring lvm and trickery in devstack | 14:28 |
| mriedem | sometimes i wonder how often people working on chef/puppet/ansible deployment scripts are fixing the same bugs that get fixed via devstack | 14:28 |
| jbernard | i dont seem to live in the same world | 14:29 |
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| jbernard | dansmith: it's going, still testing today. i moved to a new town over the weekend so it slowed me down a bit | 14:29 |
| jbernard | dansmith: my theory that tempest was sending different params to create_server() was wrong | 14:30 |
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| dansmith | jbernard: okay good, because I was highly skeptical of that theory :P | 14:34 |
| jbernard | yep, i was reaching :) | 14:34 |
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| edmondsw | claudiub, see comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152569/ | 14:39 |
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| andreykurilin | edmondsw: hi! it would be nice, if cyeoh will take part in this discussion too. | 14:54 |
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| mriedem | well at least the cells job is passing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160506/ now | 15:05 |
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| dansmith | which cells job? | 15:06 |
| dansmith | not the tempest one | 15:06 |
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| mriedem | yeah | 15:07 |
| mriedem | that one | 15:07 |
| mriedem | https://jenkins05.openstack.org/job/check-tempest-dsvm-cells/971/ | 15:07 |
| dansmith | oh you mean it's not finished yet Isee | 15:07 |
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| claudiub | andreykurilin: unfortunately, cyeoh is on an entire different time zone than us. He will probably be online in about 6-7 hours | 15:20 |
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| mriedem | jbernard: which bug are you making ceph changes under? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1439371 ? | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1439371 in Cinder "Volume creation from image fails for UEC+Ceph" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Jon Bernard (jbernard) | 15:25 |
| jbernard | mriedem: it's a good question, im not sure | 15:25 |
| jbernard | mriedem: i haven't made any updates yet, which should be the one? | 15:25 |
| mriedem | jbernard: that's the one i duped the nova bug against, so yeah, that one i guess | 15:26 |
| mriedem | i'm going to use that to archive ceph.conf in the job run | 15:26 |
| jbernard | awesome | 15:26 |
| edmondsw | claudiub, did my comments make sense to you, at least? | 15:26 |
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| claudiub | edmondsw: yeah, i got it | 15:27 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: sounds like we're still seeing the LVM volume boot test be a little flaky locally whilst trying to reproduce this | 15:31 |
| dansmith | mriedem: is it being flaky upstream too? | 15:31 |
| * dansmith uses mriedem instead of the logstash interface | 15:32 | |
| mriedem | yes http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1373513 | 15:32 |
| mriedem | http://goo.gl/vRtN6f | 15:32 |
| mriedem | mriedembot is happy to please | 15:32 |
| mriedem | 14 failures in 7 days, check queue only | 15:33 |
| dansmith | okay | 15:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Adds support for x509 certificates as keypairs https://review.openstack.org/136458 | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 1 https://review.openstack.org/152569 | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 2 https://review.openstack.org/167408 | 15:35 |
| dansmith | in trying to compare lvm and ceph, it's not so easy to get a good lvm run it seems :/ | 15:35 |
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| mriedem | alright, well i'll have a d-g change to archive the ceph logs and config soon, and a tempest change to skip the test if using ceph until it's sorted out | 15:44 |
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| mriedem | so we don't regress the job more while debugging this | 15:44 |
| dansmith | mriedem: oh really? | 15:44 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170900/ | 15:44 |
| dansmith | that'd be cool | 15:45 |
| dansmith | I was going to try to avoid skipping and use the disk image, but I keep hitting other stuff | 15:45 |
| mriedem | yeah turns out there is a tempest config value set for the ceph job so i can key off that | 15:45 |
| mriedem | easy peasy | 15:45 |
| dansmith | okay | 15:45 |
| mriedem | then we could think about making it voting on nova/cinder/glance jobs since it hits all 3 services | 15:46 |
| dansmith | yeah, I'd really like to get it voting | 15:46 |
| dansmith | looking through this the last few days, | 15:46 |
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| dansmith | it adds a lot of coverage of stuff in the libvirt driver and volume code that really needs to be exercised | 15:46 |
| mriedem | yeah, it's the only shared storage image backend we have right? | 15:47 |
| dansmith | no, we have nfs | 15:47 |
| mriedem | oh right, that | 15:47 |
| dansmith | heh | 15:47 |
| mriedem | it's not tested though right? | 15:47 |
| dansmith | but, it exercises some of that, and also the rbd bits | 15:47 |
| dansmith | nfs? no | 15:47 |
| dansmith | the aipocpu tests are doing block migration, IIRC | 15:48 |
| mriedem | yeah they are | 15:49 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: jbernard: here is the skip patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170903/ | 15:57 |
| dansmith | mriedem: thanks | 15:57 |
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| dansmith | sdague: did the default in devstack go back to n-net from neutron? | 16:01 |
| sdague | dansmith: yes | 16:01 |
| dansmith | sdague: when was that and... dare I ask why? :) | 16:01 |
| sdague | about 2 days after it flipped to neutron | 16:02 |
| sdague | because it didn't work for all the simple cases | 16:02 |
| dansmith | lol | 16:02 |
| dansmith | awesome | 16:02 |
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| mriedem | would we want to disable the ceph job on stable branches? i'd think yes? | 16:03 |
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| mriedem | there were some fixes from jbernard in kilo and i'm not sure if those got backporte | 16:03 |
| mriedem | jbernard: do you remember? ^ | 16:03 |
| jbernard | mriedem: hmm, i remember the resize-revert issue | 16:04 |
| mriedem | yeah, looking up that change | 16:04 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139693/ | 16:05 |
| mriedem | that's kilo-only | 16:05 |
| jbernard | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149371/ | 16:05 |
| jbernard | mriedem: perhaps? | 16:05 |
| mriedem | ah ok | 16:06 |
| mriedem | rpc api change there.... | 16:06 |
| mriedem | in the backport, which is probably bad | 16:06 |
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| mriedem | oh maybe not | 16:07 |
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| mriedem | anyway, w/o that we know it doesn't work on juno so also assuming doesn't work on icehouse, so i'm going to change project-config to not run the ceph job on stable branches, then make it voting on master for nova/cinder (depends on the tempest skip) | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: Fix rebuild of an instance with a volume attached https://review.openstack.org/170907 | 16:11 |
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| dansmith | gah | 16:18 |
| dansmith | devstack won't run for me.. fails on creating the loop-backed vg for lvm | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feodor Tersin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix displaying of an unavailable flavor of a showing instance https://review.openstack.org/170839 | 16:27 |
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| mriedem | this would make the ceph job voting on nova changes in the check queue https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170913/ | 16:33 |
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| mriedem | jogo: fyi ^ | 16:33 |
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| jogo | mriedem: if we make that voting should we make it voting in gate queue as well? otherwise we can wedge ourselves | 16:48 |
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| mriedem | jogo: probably? does that just mean adding gate-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph to the -gate section for each project? | 16:49 |
| jogo | mriedem: yup | 16:50 |
| mriedem | ok, updating | 16:50 |
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| mriedem | jogo: done | 16:51 |
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| dansmith | man, 160 seconds to run a single go of the volume boot test on my very fast, very unloaded baremetal system :( | 16:52 |
| dansmith | (with lvm) | 16:52 |
| jogo | mriedem: looks better | 16:53 |
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| mriedem | i got buy in from nikhil_k, and advertised in the cinder channel and added thingee to the review | 16:54 |
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| nikhil_k | ack | 16:56 |
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| rwsu | hi, where can I find the list of events nova emits to the amqp bus? | 17:09 |
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| mriedem | rwsu: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SystemUsageData | 17:13 |
| mriedem | i plan on moving that into devref at some point so it's versioned | 17:13 |
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| rwsu | mriedem: awesome, exactly what I was looking for, thank you | 17:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Adds support for x509 certificates as keypairs https://review.openstack.org/136458 | 17:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 1 https://review.openstack.org/152569 | 17:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 2 https://review.openstack.org/167408 | 17:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Adds support for x509 certificates as keypairs https://review.openstack.org/136458 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 1 https://review.openstack.org/152569 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 2 https://review.openstack.org/167408 | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Use oslo_config choices support https://review.openstack.org/158573 | 17:31 |
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| dims | jogo: just a rebase? ^^ | 17:45 |
| jogo | dims: yeah, it wasn't needed but only figured that out after I clicked the button | 17:45 |
| dims | jogo: ack thanks | 17:46 |
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| jogo | dims: np, I assume the choices thing throws an error when an invalid choice is used | 17:53 |
| dansmith | sdague: jogo: mriedem just an update on the ceph issue, if you're interested: | 17:53 |
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| dansmith | if you do BFV from the docs where you specify the image as part of the BDM creation, everything works fine | 17:53 |
| dansmith | if you pre-create the volume in cinder and then try to BFV it in nova, it fails because cinder doesn't have any of the required image metadata stored on the volume | 17:54 |
| dansmith | which differs from the LVM case | 17:54 |
| dansmith | tempest does it the latter way, which is why it's faling | 17:54 |
| dansmith | er, failing | 17:54 |
| mriedem | dansmith: so for lvm in cinder it stores the metadata but with rbd it doesn't? | 17:54 |
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| dansmith | right | 17:55 |
| dansmith | which seems like a really odd thing to have the driver do by itself | 17:55 |
| dims | jogo: y | 17:55 |
| mriedem | dansmith: so fix in cinder? | 17:55 |
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| dansmith | so, that driver is not properly plopping the kernel/ramdisk in the volume, but it's also not storing the right metadata either | 17:56 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, nova is doing the right thing, I think | 17:56 |
| dansmith | mriedem: if we tell nova to get it from glance, it works fine, but if from cinder then it fails because the metadata isn't there | 17:56 |
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| dansmith | I'll update the bug for posterity | 17:57 |
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| sdague | dansmith: I feel like I've seen a raft of bugs for these issues | 18:02 |
| jogo | dansmith: glad to see we the test is catching real bugs | 18:02 |
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| dansmith | sdague: these issues? like metadata-related things? | 18:02 |
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| sdague | dansmith: yes | 18:04 |
| sdague | about volumes not having the image attributes | 18:04 |
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| jogo | does cinder have a test for this somewhere? | 18:08 |
| jogo | sounds like something that cinder drivers aren't being tested enough on | 18:08 |
| jogo | jgriffith: ^ | 18:08 |
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| chinmay | rgerganov: hi , I sent a detailed mail regarding the transfer of images to the datastore, included gary, arnold as well. Please have a look | 18:12 |
| tjones1 | chinmay thanks for pointing that out. sabari has taken over arnaud's work and will have a look at the patch | 18:13 |
| chinmay | tjones1 : alright, cool :) | 18:14 |
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| sabari | chinmay: Can you pl post a link to the patch ? | 18:36 |
| jgriffith | jogo: sdague Not sure what you're "pointing" at discovering.. but ok :) | 18:38 |
| jgriffith | jogo: sdake taking to jbernard | 18:38 |
| sdake | jgriffith sup? | 18:39 |
| sdake | didn't pass my parser ;) | 18:39 |
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| jgriffith | sdake: sorry man... auto complete gotcha | 18:40 |
| sdake | roger | 18:40 |
| sdake | happens alot with sdague :) | 18:40 |
| sdake | gottatype in that kilo ;) | 18:40 |
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| jogo | jgriffith: bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1439371 | 18:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1439371 in Cinder "Volume creation from image fails for UEC+Ceph" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Jon Bernard (jbernard) | 18:44 |
| jogo | dansmith: did you update the bug? ^ | 18:44 |
| jogo | jgriffith: see dansmith's explanation for the bug | 18:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: Add functional test for server group https://review.openstack.org/147514 | 18:45 |
| jgriffith | jogo: I'm familar with the bug, sorry was trying to figure out what the "update" is per say | 18:46 |
| jgriffith | jogo: anyway, I've been talking to jbernard about it as he works on it | 18:46 |
| jgriffith | jogo: thanks for the heads up | 18:46 |
| jogo | jgriffith: cool | 18:47 |
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| vilobhmm1 | sajeesh : ping | 18:50 |
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| dansmith | jogo: still writing the update, but had to take a call | 18:52 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: did you start a discussion on the live migration rpc breakage thing? | 20:22 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i'm drawing a blank | 20:28 |
| mriedem | that backport with the -2? | 20:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clif Houck proposed openstack/nova: Add weigher for cached images on Ironic nodes. https://review.openstack.org/170681 | 20:28 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 20:28 |
| mriedem | adam_g: want to look at this again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151775/ | 20:29 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i punt to adam_g and ttx on that one | 20:40 |
| dansmith | yeah, me too | 20:40 |
| dansmith | just wanted to make sure they understood the implications | 20:40 |
| dansmith | for us, live migration from one release to another is a big part of the upgrade strategy, so... | 20:41 |
| mriedem | us == nova | 20:41 |
| mriedem | ? | 20:41 |
| dansmith | redhat | 20:41 |
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| adam_g | sorry, im still -1 on that one. the hard -2 is for the code freeze, im fine with being overridden by others tho | 20:41 |
| dansmith | adam_g: why -1? | 20:42 |
| dansmith | oh I see, you were -1 first | 20:43 |
| dansmith | adam_g: this is in master of course, so the -1 for implementation has sailed I think | 20:43 |
| dansmith | however, | 20:43 |
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| adam_g | dansmith, IIUI the patch correctly, its dropping an exception thats been there since forever that prevented possible data loss | 20:43 |
| dansmith | no | 20:43 |
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| dansmith | it was added in the middle of a release which is strictly against our policy for upgrades and rpc compat | 20:43 |
| dansmith | just didn't get reasonable review | 20:43 |
| dansmith | it's gone from master now | 20:43 |
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| dansmith | it basically said "solving this in a compatible way is too hard, so I'm just going to break it all to hell" | 20:44 |
| dansmith | which is not what we do | 20:44 |
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| dansmith | the other side is: this only affects a small slice of users in a small set of situations, which is why it has been okay in master for a long time | 20:44 |
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| dansmith | so I'd prefer it be a little risky and compatible, and just make it safer going forward | 20:45 |
| dansmith | which is what we did | 20:45 |
| dansmith | adam_g: ^ | 20:45 |
| adam_g | dansmith, what was added in the middle of a release? | 20:45 |
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| dansmith | adam_g: that raising of that exception | 20:45 |
| mriedem | this i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91722/ | 20:45 |
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| mriedem | oh nvm | 20:46 |
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| mriedem | well, that was juno | 20:46 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: that's it, yep | 20:46 |
| dansmith | this is for icehouse | 20:46 |
| dansmith | that should NEVER have gone into the tree | 20:46 |
| adam_g | im looking at juno | 20:46 |
| adam_g | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/compute/rpcapi.py?h=stable%2Fjuno#n299 | 20:46 |
| dansmith | right | 20:47 |
| mriedem | so if you want to live migrate from icehouse to juno and you're using ceph, kablammo | 20:47 |
| dansmith | no | 20:47 |
| dansmith | mriedem: everyone is blocked, not just ceph! | 20:47 |
| dansmith | that's the crazy crazy part | 20:47 |
| mriedem | oh | 20:47 |
| dansmith | "this is risky in one small circumstance, BREAK FOR EVARYONE!" | 20:47 |
| mriedem | i guess ndipanov didn't get the internal memo on live migration being important for upgrades :) | 20:47 |
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| dansmith | hence my "major screw up on our part" verbiage in my comments on the backport :) | 20:48 |
| mriedem | i remember a bunch of bickering in the change while it was under review, but anyway | 20:48 |
| adam_g | so which shared storage flavors are make up the small slice of users? | 20:52 |
| adam_g | er | 20:52 |
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| adam_g | sorry, i need a minute to context switch out of yakisoba and get my head wrapped around the patch again | 20:53 |
| dansmith | adam_g: it was just rbd users that were affected | 20:53 |
| dansmith | adam_g: nfs users (which is the majority of icehouse-era shared storage folks) were unaffected | 20:53 |
| dansmith | adam_g: either way, this is how it is in master, so we should only be discussing backport suitability, unless you're proposing a change to master, right? | 20:54 |
| adam_g | dansmith, yeah.. adding a little bit of risk that could potentially cause data loss for rbd users seems a bit strange for a stable backport. i suppose the master patch would be more palatable for stable if instead of only warning, it raised exception before if migration is happening on a shared block device, like it has been | 20:55 |
| dansmith | adam_g: it's not adding risk | 20:56 |
| dansmith | adam_g: they're on icehouse now, so if they're using it, they already have the risk | 20:56 |
| dansmith | adam_g: this just prevents them from being dead in the water while trying to upgrade to juno | 20:56 |
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| dansmith | adam_g: and it prevents NFS-using people from doing their upgrade | 20:56 |
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| dansmith | adam_g: the problem is, we can't detect at that layer what is going on, so we can't raise for ceph and not for nfs | 20:57 |
| dansmith | but like I say, if they're doing it on icehouse, they're already assuming the risk | 20:57 |
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| dansmith | er, that NFS statement should have been "this backport prevents NFS-using people from being able to do their upgrade" | 20:58 |
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| dansmith | if anything, this adds logging of the risk that they're not currently getting in icehouse | 20:59 |
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| dansmith | and once they're all up to juno, the risk goes away anyway | 20:59 |
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| adam_g | dansmith, they being shared block users? | 21:00 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:01 |
| dansmith | no | 21:01 |
| dansmith | not shared block | 21:01 |
| dansmith | all shared storage users | 21:01 |
| dansmith | i.e. including NFS users | 21:01 |
| adam_g | with nfs, is_shared_block_storage==True? | 21:02 |
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| dansmith | I don't think so | 21:03 |
| dansmith | it's broken out into shared block and shared fs, right? | 21:03 |
| adam_g | thats what i thought | 21:03 |
| dansmith | but look at the patch | 21:03 |
| adam_g | so reading https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145292/2/nova/compute/rpcapi.py _warn_buggy_live_migrations() | 21:03 |
| dansmith | it's raising based on the version | 21:03 |
| dansmith | if they're sending the old format, we don't have those two flags available to us, so we can't make the smart decision | 21:04 |
| dansmith | and if they are, then it doesn't matter anyway | 21:04 |
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| adam_g | dansmith, nothing is raising anymore. the exception in all cases is traded for a warning in potentially risky cases. thats the only issue i have. sorry if im being daft here. | 21:09 |
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| dansmith | adam_g: right, but if they're sending the old version (in the case of an icehouse compute node migrating to a juno one), then we don't have the information necessary to raise only in the risky case | 21:10 |
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| dansmith | if they are sending the necessary information, it doesn't matter anyway | 21:10 |
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| dansmith | I feel pretty strongly that risk aside, we broke our RPC and our rolling upgrades, which is a thing we don't do, and that we need to fix it | 21:11 |
| dansmith | else we're telling a bunch of icehouse people that they can't do a live upgrade to juno | 21:11 |
| dansmith | which isn't okay, IMHO | 21:11 |
| dansmith | I really have to run now | 21:11 |
| dansmith | happy to continue this later | 21:12 |
| dansmith | adam_g: ^ | 21:12 |
| adam_g | dansmith, thanks | 21:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feodor Tersin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix displaying of an unavailable flavor of a showing instance https://review.openstack.org/170839 | 21:35 |
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| miarmak | Is it possible to boot VM in specified tenant (if you are logged in via admin creds and admin tenant)? | 21:58 |
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