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| dansmith | mikal: ship that mofo' | 01:06 |
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| dansmith | mikal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172152/ | 01:06 |
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| jogo | dansmith: ohh exciting RC1 is almost ready? | 01:10 |
| dansmith | jogo: it's ready, as far as I'm concerned | 01:11 |
| dansmith | just need mikal to hit the big red button | 01:11 |
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| jogo | exciting! | 01:16 |
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| eliqiao | hi RuiChen: | 02:42 |
| eliqiao | it's re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171079/2 . I see you are -1 due to lack of unit test case. any suggestion on how to write the unit case ? | 02:42 |
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| RuiChen | eliqiao: wait a minutes. | 02:45 |
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| RuiChen | eliqiao: maybe you can follow '_test_live_migration_monitoring' as example. | 02:49 |
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| eliqiao | RuiChen: yeah，I see that case. but I wonder how can we assert the value in a sleep call? | 02:54 |
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| eliqiao | RuiChen: if we call _live_migration_monitor in a mock envroment, then we can only get the finnal result of instance.progress... what about for each loop ? | 02:55 |
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| RuiChen | eliqiao: instance as MagicMock, it's work? I'm not sure | 03:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhangtralon proposed openstack/nova-specs: Create Nova Scheduler Base Image Weighter https://review.openstack.org/172298 | 03:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/171943 | 06:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Fix for live migration rollback when using shared storage https://review.openstack.org/172117 | 06:43 |
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| mikal | I just send the SHA for RC1 to ttx | 07:07 |
| mikal | Just so people know | 07:07 |
| gilliard | Morning Nova! | 07:08 |
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| gilliard | mikal: :) | 07:08 |
| ttx | mikal: I need approval on that review | 07:08 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171078/ | 07:08 |
| mikal | Just did it | 07:09 |
| mikal | And pinged you in relmgr to let you know | 07:09 |
| mikal | Cause, good bloke and all | 07:09 |
| mikal | You still need zz_johnthetubagu to remove his -2 on that review though | 07:09 |
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| chaochin | alex_xu: hello | 07:13 |
| alex_xu | chaochin: hi | 07:13 |
| openstackgerrit | zhangtralon proposed openstack/nova-specs: Make fitler to support force_hosts/force_nodes https://review.openstack.org/171917 | 07:13 |
| chaochin | alex_xu: I am testing ephemeral disk api | 07:14 |
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| chaochin | alex_xu: when I run nova boot --flavor xyz --image abc --ephemeral size=2 | 07:15 |
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| alex_xu | chaochin: ok | 07:15 |
| chaochin | alex_xu: nova-api returns bad request | 07:15 |
| chaochin | alex_xu: the error is | 07:16 |
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| chaochin | alex_xu: the error is raise by https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L1224 | 07:17 |
| alex_xu | chaochin: ok, got it, let me test this case also | 07:18 |
| chaochin | alex_xu: the reason is that the boot index list is empty | 07:19 |
| chaochin | alex_xu: because nova boot request only has one -1 boot index for the ephemeral disk | 07:19 |
| alex_xu | chaochin: are you using lastest code? | 07:19 |
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| chaochin | alex_xu: I am using kilo code, build date shuold be in late March | 07:20 |
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| alex_xu | chaochin: I tested the lastest code, get same error as your said | 07:21 |
| chaochin | alex_xu: do you feel that is a bug? The user hope to boot one VM from image, and hope to attach one ephemeral disk. | 07:21 |
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| chaochin | alex_xu: the block device mapping list only has one ephermal disk, and its boot index is -1 | 07:22 |
| alex_xu | chaochin: I feel it is a bug, but let me dig into more | 07:23 |
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| chaochin | alex_xu: thanks | 07:23 |
| chaochin | alex_xu: I also feel it is a bug. Let me open a bug | 07:23 |
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| alex_xu | chaochin: np, you can give me the link, when I dig out more I will comment on your bug | 07:24 |
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| chaochin | alex_xu: ok | 07:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova: Remove cell api overrides for force-delete https://review.openstack.org/135202 | 07:40 |
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| chaochin | alex_xu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1442501 | 07:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1442501 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Fail to boot VM from image with one ephemeral disk" [Undecided,New] | 07:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | heijlong proposed openstack/nova: Merge volume related functional tests of v2 and v2.1 https://review.openstack.org/172330 | 08:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: we are opening liberty soon, if that helps with the API policy work, I think we can bring that all back to life ASAP | 08:26 |
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| bauzas | \o/ | 08:44 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ttx patch in the gate right ? | 08:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yup yup | 08:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: do you scheduler folks have stuff ready to start working on for liberty now | 08:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: keen to gate the paper work straight to start on "real" work straight away, if possible | 08:45 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: well, I have to propose again the req_spec object stuff | 08:45 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: and I will also add a couple of specs | 08:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: OK, cool | 08:45 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but we need to discuss at Vancouver how to correctly split the scheduler in a separate repo if needed | 08:46 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I also need to discuss with dansmith to see if o.vo is good for us | 08:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | o.vo? | 08:47 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: sorry oslo.versionedobjects | 08:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah | 08:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikolas Hermanns proposed openstack/nova: LibcirtDriver: Add post_connection_terminated https://review.openstack.org/172341 | 08:47 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I would like to see if he wants to base the NovaObjects on top of o.vo instead of the Base object | 08:47 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but that's just a thought | 08:48 |
| kashyap | People keep complaining on -dev about how complex it is to use Neutron as default n/w in DevStack, I doubt if some of them even have tried it. | 08:48 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I also need to see how cells v2 and scheduler are related, we had a good talk with alaski on that | 08:48 |
| kashyap | FWIW, /me uses it all the time in his Dev/Test environment, and it's not "overly complex" at all. But maybe I got used to it. | 08:49 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: sounds like the Liberty effort on both will be coupled | 08:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | kashyap: I guess we should just make it the default, so they stop moaning | 08:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: so I think we need to stop trying to split the scheduler for now | 08:49 |
| kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Totally. | 08:49 |
| kashyap | My notes here -- http://kashyapc.com/2015/03/17/minimal-devstack-with-openstack-neutron-networking/ | 08:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: we need to keep on with the good work of sorting out the interface | 08:49 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: agreed | 08:49 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I mean, we need to see what's missing | 08:49 |
| kashyap | It's all so procedural, and easily scripted | 08:49 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: and helping to reduce the tech debyt | 08:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | kashyap: might be worth pushing up the patch to devstack, see what folks say | 08:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | kashyap: patch to change the default, I mean | 08:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: totally, lets worry about any splits once its possible | 08:50 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: just to be clear, my management is giving me more time for helping Nova than just spliting out the sched now | 08:50 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so I'll look into API, cells v2 and objects | 08:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: honestly, I am thinking we need to leave it in Nova, and just scale out our intree review abilities somewhat | 08:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I am very opinionated about scheduling and cells v2, been looking a lot at that stuff | 08:51 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: makes sense, but we still need to think about Cinder and Neutron | 08:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: my take is, make cells and aggregates look the same | 08:51 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: eh eh, look at our convo we had on the last meeting :) | 08:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, I should go read that | 08:52 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-04-08-17.00.log.html | 08:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: anyways, I think Cinder and Neutron is not too bad, the main thing is we need a way to describe "affinity" that works between services | 08:52 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I'm personnally thinking that cells is just another layer for sched | 08:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: what do you mean by a "layer"? | 08:53 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: another segregation thing | 08:53 |
| bauzas | or affinity if you prefer | 08:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | where aggregates is an existing one? | 08:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: CreateVM supports subnet specified https://review.openstack.org/169638 | 08:53 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: aggregates is a way to both segregate and group your cloud IMHO | 08:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: you might be over thinking what cells scheduling does today, its really quite simple | 08:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: right, its only one side of aggregates | 08:54 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: by grouping, I'm thinking of the metadataz | 08:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: right I see cell as a property of the host | 08:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | and cell has related "capabilities" just like an aggregate | 08:55 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: exactly ! | 08:55 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: you should really read the last meeting ;D | 08:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, I should... | 08:55 |
| rajesht | jogo: could you please check quota update patch https://review.openstack.org/122347 | 08:55 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: anyway, you got my view, aggregates and cells are orthogonal | 08:55 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, I've bounced this off of a few people: cells is a way to divide and concur perf bottlenecks around DB and rabbit, but there are glaring inefficiencies in how we use those - fixing that would make cells a lot less interesting (true/false) | 08:55 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but the main problem for cells is that the current nova-scheduler doesn't scale out well | 08:56 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: oh oh :) | 08:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: I think thats what cells v2 is basically doing, but I might be miss understanding your concern | 08:56 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: I'm seeing cells as another abstraction for grouping hosts | 08:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: agreed, current scheduler need a bit more juice (I have ideas), and the current approach around making it parallel is also key | 08:57 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: a colocation object if you wish | 08:57 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, that's what we should work on for L as tech debt reduction | 08:57 |
| ndipanov | well my concern is that we are working around a problem (abysmal performance) instead of fixing it | 08:57 |
| ndipanov | so if cells is indeed a way to fix poor performance of our code once you hit certain scale | 08:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: fwiw its not just performance reasons, we use it as way to expand horizontally, and have isolated failure domains, more than actual performance needs | 08:58 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: I understand your point | 08:58 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: cells are used that way now | 08:58 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: but that's not what we move forward for cells v2 | 08:58 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: and as I said, it leaves the scalability problem to other components | 08:59 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: scheduler is one of these, but Neutron too | 08:59 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, right - so you trade of complexity in deploying nova for less complexity in deploying running rabbitmq/mysql | 09:00 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: so the direction is to say "okay, cells v2 will only ensure that your API is consistent, but it leaves the performance concerns to possibly others" | 09:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: the idea is one cell and many cells look the same | 09:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: to be clear, you don't need multiple rabbit and mysql boxes, thats just one deployment choice | 09:01 |
| bauzas | yeah, cells v2 is default | 09:01 |
| ndipanov | right ok I get - it's a useful abstraction | 09:01 |
| ndipanov | in that case - carry on | 09:01 |
| bauzas | by default, Nova will have one v2 cell | 09:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its way better than cells v1 | 09:01 |
| bauzas | even for aio | 09:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | aio? | 09:01 |
| bauzas | and then, you can scale out by adding more cells if you wish | 09:01 |
| bauzas | all-in-one | 09:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, yeah | 09:02 |
| bauzas | but agreed with ndipanov, we know that we have some perf issues that we need to tackle | 09:02 |
| bauzas | and that's not yet a Nova priority | 09:02 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, but if rabbitmq/db is just one box -you don't really get separate failure domains, do you? | 09:02 |
| ndipanov | then it's just added complexity | 09:03 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: it's just about making sure that the top-level API is cell-ish | 09:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: its just one string in the config though | 09:03 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, right | 09:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: the separation can help for upgrade etc, its surprising where it actually helps you | 09:05 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, that's fair | 09:05 |
| ndipanov | that's what I wanted to figure out | 09:05 |
| ndipanov | if it were not a per band-aid | 09:05 |
| ndipanov | perf* | 09:05 |
| ndipanov | only | 09:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: totally, its the right questions to ask | 09:05 |
| ndipanov | because we have such glaring issues with our code when it comes to performance, that it seems wrong to "architect" around those as a first solution | 09:06 |
| ndipanov | but obviously cells is not only that | 09:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: totally agreed with your concern | 09:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: but yeah, its not meant to be that, although it got that reputation | 09:07 |
| ndipanov | gotcha | 09:07 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: do you know that cells v2 has a manifesto ? | 09:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: we only add capacity by testing a new cell, then adding it into production, and we actually separate our IP traffic by cell, the networking density is the main limit right now | 09:08 |
| ndipanov | bauzas, manifesto's are a dime a dozen | 09:09 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: but I think it's a good point for clarifying some misunderstandings about direction | 09:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: election time in the UK, that rings true for me! | 09:09 |
| ndipanov | haha | 09:10 |
| bauzas | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/doc/source/devref/cells.rst | 09:11 |
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| ndipanov | so first sentence says it's about scaling | 09:14 |
| ndipanov | but scaling rabbit and mysql is not magic | 09:14 |
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| ndipanov | and running them in a fault tolerant fashion | 09:15 |
| ndipanov | anyway back to reviewing | 09:15 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: :) | 09:16 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, are we still OK with getting that PCI fix(es) for Rc2? | 09:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: lets get them merged in liberty, then yes, I think it makes sense | 09:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: they are tagged with rc-potential I guess, so we should notice? | 09:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: might need to add the kilo-backport-potential tag as well (I think I made it an official tag already) | 09:17 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, cool | 09:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova: Fix failure of stopping instances during init host https://review.openstack.org/167926 | 09:35 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok, got it | 09:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: let me know when you folks are ready, and I can help with the paperwork | 09:46 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: thanks :) | 09:51 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: I need resubmit the spec, right? I remeber there is mail talk about those Kilo works will continue in L | 09:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: yes, needs a new blueprint and spec, the old one technically was partially complete | 09:55 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok, got it | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: but you can just resubmit the kilo spec, with notes about how far you got in kilo, and whats left | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: we can treat that as "PreviouslyApproved: kilo" I think, just add that in the commit message | 09:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | there might be a hyphon in there | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | I will try send a mail out once we have that sussed | 09:57 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok, got it, I will work out those asap | 09:57 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: awesome, thank you | 10:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I wanted to quickly check an idea about v2.1 with you | 10:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I am wondering if we relax validation of requests without a version tagged? | 10:03 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok | 10:03 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: any idea why Nova isn't asking for work rooms ? | 10:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I am thinking, we run the validation code, but we don't fail the request, we remove the "invalid" fields | 10:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: we never use them | 10:03 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but only fishbowl rooms for the summit ? | 10:03 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: okay, due to audience ? | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: oh… we had a work room on friday I thought... | 10:04 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: nah, that's called 'contributors meetup" | 10:04 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I'm referring to ttx's email | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: ah, right, thats the importnat bit, yeah | 10:04 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: you mean the user add invalid field in the request, but nova won't return fails to the user, just remove the invalid field, right? | 10:05 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, IIUC, work room sessions are an intermediate way to have contributors without having crowded audience like fishbowl sessions | 10:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: yeah | 10:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: assuming the invalid field is not required | 10:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: if its required and invalid, we just fail | 10:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: agreed, last time we had one, we never used it | 10:06 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: that will confuse for the option fields, maybe the use just make typo mistake, then nova didn't notice user the request is wrong. | 10:06 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: okay | 10:06 |
| alex_xu | /option/optional | 10:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: mostly as we don't have any time, given there are always sessions relevant to nova folks happening | 10:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: so I agree with you… but here is the thing | 10:07 |
| ttx | bauzas: mikal asked for 18 fishbowl rooms | 10:07 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I see, that's just a personal problem then, because I'm a bit shy in public for sharing my voice :) | 10:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: if you add a micro version header, then we reject those | 10:07 |
| bauzas | ttx: yeah, saw in today's email, hence the question to johnthetubaguy | 10:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, we need to help you with that, I used to just type on the etherpad, if we use that problem, it can work | 10:08 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: I see now, you want avoid the v2.1 break the v2 client or sdk | 10:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: but I am thinking about "bad" SDKs that send things to v2.0 that work today, but would fail with v2.1, its why we at rackspace public cloud can't deploy v2.1 yet | 10:08 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that's just natural limits due to non-fluent English | 10:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: ah, yes, thats it | 10:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think it affects english speakers too, took me years to speak up | 10:09 |
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| bauzas | agreed, sometimes you ask for the mic, and then you're blocked because everyone is starring at you | 10:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: but I understand its harder if english is not your first language, that does suck | 10:09 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: emm...one more point, I think the microversion isn't the global version | 10:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: in what sense? | 10:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: not sure I get what you mean | 10:10 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: if there is one api is never bump the version, this api never get the chance to get better validation in the future | 10:10 |
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| bauzas | alex_xu: correct me if I'm wrong, but v2 == v2.1 ? | 10:10 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sorry I typo slow... | 10:10 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: yes, except the more strict input validation | 10:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: well, I thought the API version is just a high watermark though, so if we request v2.3, that API might return validated v2.0 | 10:11 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: in v2.1 ? yeah | 10:11 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: oops, yea, you are right | 10:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I am thinking we only relax the checks if no version is specified, basically | 10:11 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: emm...I like the idea, that resolve people's concern, we can switch to v2.1 api safely | 10:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: you are right though, a lib might not request with the version header as they read there are no updates, but we should discourage that, I think you just request the high watermark you understand | 10:12 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: yes, in v2.1 | 10:12 |
| bauzas | I've been hearing that oomichi was providing a new paste.ini for pointing v2 to v2.1, is that correct ? | 10:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: put it this way, I think it means we could turn it on soon, if we get the SDKs passing | 10:12 |
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| bauzas | so 'bad' SDKs would be hitting v21 anyway and be served v2.1 | 10:13 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yes, we can't validate all the SDKs on the v2.1, that sounds a good idea | 10:13 |
| bauzas | I mean, that's just mapping endpoints vs. classes, nope ? | 10:13 |
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| alex_xu | bauzas: yes, there are two endpoints for v2 and v2.1 in paste.ini | 10:16 |
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| alex_xu | bauzas: sorry, I didn't get the meaning of " mapping endpoints vs. classes" | 10:18 |
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| bauzas | alex_xu: my concern is about safely pointing /v2 to v21 app and relax the input validation | 10:18 |
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| bauzas | alex_xu: like johnthetubaguy said if no version specified | 10:19 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: that way, SDKs not using service catalog would continue to hit /v2 but would be served by the V2.1 app | 10:20 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: and you could safely deprecate the v21 app later on | 10:20 |
| bauzas | oops v2 app I mean | 10:20 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: yes, I agree with that | 10:21 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: sound like more safe to deprecate v2 | 10:21 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: yeah, you could even provide a path like /deprecated/ | 10:21 |
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| bauzas | alex_xu: for those who want to explicitely not use v21 | 10:22 |
| bauzas | even if I don't see why... | 10:22 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: we shouldn't keep the v2, it's hard to maintance two set api | 10:23 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: agreed | 10:23 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: so just drop the v2 | 10:23 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: I was thinking it as a temporary solution for the cycle | 10:23 |
| bauzas | I'm sorry, I'm more used to Pecan and Flask than the Nova wsgi.py module but I hope you got my idea | 10:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: alex_xu: lets not over complicate this, this is just the default configuration we need to agree on | 10:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | it feels a bit soon to remove v2.0, I would support that move if we can get a validation relax code in | 10:33 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok | 10:34 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that's what I said, we need to relax v21 validation if no X-API-Version is provided, so that /v2 == /v2.1 | 10:34 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: and then we could map /v2 to v21 app | 10:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: right, I think thats what we were saying earlier too | 10:35 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: my point was just about considering /v2 as pointing to v21, that's it :) | 10:35 |
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| sdague | so, actually, I think I've reversed my view that that is useful | 10:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: ah, interested in what that means, you mean we always point v2.1 at v2.1? | 10:36 |
| sdague | yeh | 10:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Deepak C Shetty proposed openstack/nova-specs: Volume snapshot improvements https://review.openstack.org/134517 | 10:36 |
| sdague | because now that /v2 is hard frozen | 10:36 |
| alex_xu | considering /v2 as point to v21 is the plan, right? | 10:36 |
| sdague | people will move | 10:36 |
| sdague | because they'll want new features | 10:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, I think we just end up with v2, v2.1 and v1.1 all pointing to v2.1 coe | 10:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think if we get the validation restrictions, we can make v2.1 server v2.0 requests, I don't see people ever fully stopping using v2.0 at this point, sadly, but that shouldn't matter | 10:37 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: maybe | 10:38 |
| sdague | so many folks were bringing feature patches in previously that I this the feature preasure will get people across | 10:38 |
| claudiub | I think there was a reason why the nova-api folks insisted in making the v2.0 and v2.1 pretty much the same and I doubt it was so it will be removed. | 10:39 |
| sdague | anyway, brb | 10:39 |
| claudiub | the 1st microversion bump was not merged until everything was prepared for v2.0 and v2.1 | 10:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: I want to delete the v2.0 code, once we can use the v2.1 code to server v2.0 requests, but we are not there yet | 10:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: is that what you mean? | 10:42 |
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| claudiub | I'm fine with removing it, I didn't really see the point in having 2 apis that do the same thing anyways. :) | 10:43 |
| claudiub | but that is not my call | 10:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: its only there for the transition, at least that was the plan | 10:44 |
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| sdague | claudiub: right, this is about letting people gracefully side slip | 10:49 |
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| sdague | kashyap: if you only use devstack in a VM where you set up all your interfaces perfectly, the devstack neutron case works fine. If you use it on real hardware, it mostly all falls apart because neutron only half manages it's own interfaces | 10:53 |
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| sdague | then you are off debugging ovs | 10:53 |
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| bauzas | alex_xu: around for an API question ? | 11:04 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: yes, I'm here | 11:05 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: I'm reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169836/8/specs/liberty/approved/report-host-fault-to-update-server-state-immediately.rst,cm | 11:05 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: and I left a note about extending the API | 11:05 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: I guess that if we want to add a PUT on an endpoint, we need to provide a new microversion ? | 11:06 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: new PUT method for a api?, yes, we need new microversion | 11:06 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: so I readed the v21 docs in devref, it should be done by bumping wsgi.py version and decorating the PUT method ? | 11:07 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: okay | 11:07 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: what about modifying the body of the request ? I guess it's also needing a version bump right ? | 11:07 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: yes, we need bump version | 11:07 |
| bauzas | ok | 11:07 |
| bauzas | quite easy then | 11:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: almost everything needs to bump the version, probably easier to explain the opposite | 11:08 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah makes sense, it's like RPC or object verisoning | 11:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | yup | 11:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | except there is no hope of ever deleting the compatibility code | 11:09 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: there is always hope = convince the operators | 11:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I am an operator, I can't see us ever deleting the compatibility code | 11:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | where ever = in the next four-five years | 11:12 |
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| alex_xu | so that means although microversion allow the incompatible change, but that never can happened, right? | 11:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: Add equality operators to PciDeviceStats and PciDevice objects https://review.openstack.org/168317 | 11:20 |
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| kashyap | sdague: Hmm, just saw your comment (about Neutron on physical dev) -- yes, I'll readily admit I have not even tried it on bare-metal myself, my only testing has been in VMs | 11:46 |
| sdague | kashyap: right, so "works for me" is kind of an irrelevant comment | 11:47 |
| kashyap | sdague: Well, I was referring to the _developer_ use case. | 11:47 |
| sdague | the developer use case also needs to support actual hardware | 11:47 |
| kashyap | sdague: Is that efficient at all? If you want to rollback, you have to re-image the physical machine | 11:48 |
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| kashyap | That'd be an awfully inefficient way to spend (the mythical you) your time. | 11:48 |
| sdague | it's the way many of us that actually work on full stack things like devstack and tempest function | 11:49 |
| sdague | kashyap: so now you are saying, "it is invalid for you to say this is complex because I find your development method different than mine" | 11:50 |
| kashyap | Sure, I'm not saying that case is totally irrelevant if you have efficient workflows with Baremetal. | 11:50 |
| sdague | but that also maps into the use case for *actually* deploying neutron | 11:51 |
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| kashyap | Fair enough. I just happened to get by with a nested environment w/o having to have baremetal to do this testing. I work remote, and I don't have a lot of spare hardware at my disposal. | 11:52 |
| sdague | kashyap: which is fine, you have a working environment | 11:53 |
| sdague | but to then project that statement to "no one else should have complaints about this because my setup works" doesn't seem valid | 11:53 |
| kashyap | sdague: I should have been more painfully explicit in my comment. But you do know that I didn't mean to disregard the use case you're talking about. | 11:53 |
| sdague | which is basically what that thread keeps turning into | 11:54 |
| sdague | "<kashyap> [04:48:25] People keep complaining on -dev about how complex it is to use Neutron as default n/w in DevStack, I doubt if some of them even have tried it." | 11:54 |
| sdague | which means you are exactly disregarding the concerns | 11:54 |
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| kashyap | sdague: Noted, you win. I didn't take into full consideration about Baremetal env. | 11:55 |
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| sdague | devstack with n-net works in nearly all environments with an empty localrc | 11:56 |
| kashyap | I was merely speaking about the test env in VMs which most folks I interact w/ in the community happened to use. | 11:56 |
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| kashyap | sdague: Sure, Sean. But that's going to be removed on fine (elusive) day. And yes - you did note in your email to the list about some operators not wanting to move to n-net for various reasons. . . | 11:59 |
| kashyap | s/on/one | 11:59 |
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| sdague | well, until we can get neutron to support these cases better, I don't think n-net really should go away | 12:00 |
| sdague | and my frustration with the thread is "here are some things that neutron really should support, like linux bridge, because people want simple L2" and there is a lot of push back on that | 12:01 |
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| kashyap | sdague: Well, I your point, and Dean Troyer says he doesn't want the overhead of OVS too. | 12:03 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs: flavor access create should check public/private https://review.openstack.org/172388 | 12:03 |
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| kashyap | (s/your/see your) /me can't type. | 12:04 |
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| sdague | kashyap: also, have you ever tried to read the current devstack neutron code? :) | 12:06 |
| kashyap | sdague: I only glanced at that after Dtroyer mentioned how bit-rotten it is :-) | 12:06 |
| sdague | it's so complex, there is no way you can debug it unless you are a neutron expert | 12:06 |
| sdague | which means things break, and you give up | 12:07 |
| kashyap | But what surprises me is, all this hoo-haa in the Neutron upstream with crap loads of half-baked plugins, etc. | 12:07 |
| kashyap | And, no effort whatsoever to cleanup the devel env tool - DevStack | 12:07 |
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| kashyap | Speak of lack of prioritization. | 12:08 |
| kashyap | Anyway, I'm just hand-waving here. . . | 12:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs: flavor access create should check public/private https://review.openstack.org/172388 | 12:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Update hypervisor support matrix with column for kvm on system z https://review.openstack.org/172391 | 12:14 |
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| sdague | kashyap: sure, there are lots of problems here | 12:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Update hypervisor support matrix with column for kvm on system z https://review.openstack.org/172391 | 12:17 |
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| bauzas | sdague: as a devstack core, would you be happy with reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171865/5 ? | 12:22 |
| bauzas | sdague: it reduces the cells job failures from 47 to 4 | 12:22 |
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| bauzas | oops Friday time | 12:24 |
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| sdague | there are 5 fails in the output | 12:26 |
| sdague | so, that hacks devstack around a thing | 12:26 |
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| sdague | but, how likely is a real cells deploy to have done that? | 12:26 |
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| bauwser | sdague: sorry, yeah 5 | 12:32 |
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| bauwser | sdague: the problem is that we had a regression due to a Tempest change which is now checking networks | 12:32 |
| sdague | right, but more importantly, how likely is a cell deployment to have been created that way outside of devstack | 12:32 |
| bauwser | sdague: and it means that cells and api dbs have to be in sync, incl. networks | 12:33 |
| bauwser | sdague: cells need a manual copy of n-net created networks in order to behave correctly, that's unfortunate | 12:34 |
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| sdague | bauwser: right, I get the failures, you still haven't answered my question | 12:34 |
| sdague | bauwser: how likely is a real cells deploy to have done that? | 12:34 |
| bauwser | sdague: I'm not a cell operator, alaski is | 12:34 |
| bauwser | sdague: but IIUC, that's necessary to keep both DBs in sync | 12:35 |
| sdague | ok, johnthetubaguy, can you comment here? | 12:35 |
| bauwser | sdague: at least for networks | 12:35 |
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| sdague | bauwser: ok, so we've been doing this wrong forever? | 12:35 |
| bauwser | sdague: sounds like, as it was not covered by Tempest - but maybe I misunderstood | 12:35 |
| sdague | I'm fine changing the devstack code if this is how cells environments are managed | 12:36 |
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| ndipanov | neutron api in nova OMG | 12:36 |
| sdague | however, if this is just a devstack hack to make some tests pass | 12:36 |
| ndipanov | my eyeeees | 12:36 |
| bauwser | sdague: what I know is that some objects are replicated automatically, like instances | 12:36 |
| sdague | ndipanov: yeh... its.... special | 12:36 |
| sdague | bauwser: ok, so you don't know | 12:36 |
| bauwser | sdague: but I don't exactly know the status of networks, I guess it's manual | 12:36 |
| ndipanov | sdague, I open that file approximately once a week and never get used to it :) | 12:36 |
| sdague | bauwser: that's fine, I'd like to get an answer from someone that does | 12:37 |
| bauwser | sdague: sure, let's wait alaski or johnthetubaguy | 12:37 |
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| tdurakov | Hi | 12:39 |
| tdurakov | there is problem in rpcv4 added recently | 12:40 |
| tdurakov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1442602 | 12:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1442602 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration fails during destination host check" [Undecided,New] | 12:40 |
| bauwser | sdague: in the meantime, let's take a good opportunity to review the code about it | 12:40 |
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| sdague | bauwser: it's a simple change, the issue is just if it's representative or not | 12:41 |
| bauwser | sdague: sure I understand your point, I'm just digging into the code to see why it's necessary | 12:42 |
| sdague | which is not mentioned in the commit or comments, so the relevant bit of information about whether we should land it isn't there | 12:42 |
| gilliard | tdurakov: Yes I had just noticed that too. | 12:42 |
| bauwser | sdague: there is a Related bug which mentions the problem, but I agree that's not self-explanatory | 12:43 |
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| tdurakov | there are 2 ways: remove param from rpc, or add to implementation) | 12:43 |
| tdurakov | what is correct? | 12:43 |
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| gilliard | tdurakov: I'm trying to work it out... | 12:45 |
| tdurakov | gillard: I suppose we should remove it for a while | 12:46 |
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| gilliard | tdurakov: sounds like you may be ahead of me... | 12:49 |
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| gilliard | tdurakov: It's made the aiopcpu (non-voting) job fail every time, hasn't it? | 12:51 |
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| tdurakov | gilliard: haven't seen it yet | 12:53 |
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| tdurakov | gillard: could you send me a link for that job? | 12:56 |
| gilliard | tdurakov: It's linked from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172152/ | 12:59 |
| gilliard | tdurakov: http://logs.openstack.org/52/172152/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-aiopcpu-full/3847521/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz#_2015-04-09_23_18_18_681 | 13:00 |
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| tdurakov | gilliard: yep, same issue | 13:00 |
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| tdurakov | http://logs.openstack.org/52/172152/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-aiopcpu-full/3847521/logs/10.209.0.203-subnode/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_2015-04-09_23_18_18_460 | 13:00 |
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| tdurakov | do we have specs for rpc v4? | 13:02 |
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| Samolo_ | Hi all, I know that's it might not be the place to ask, but afeter 3 day having no response in room 101 here am I | 13:04 |
| Samolo_ | Anyone know how to set a snapshot as private when done by nova image-create plz ? | 13:04 |
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| Samolo_ | I want to prevent the other tenant to list the snapshot | 13:05 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: hi | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: sorry, you asked for my comment, I was at lunch | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: you called? | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: how can I help | 13:09 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: yeah, thanks. liberty is open now, so is it possible to remove -2 from https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/v3-api-policy,n,z ? | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: so yes and no, spoke to alex_xu quickly | 13:11 |
| Samolo_ | i'm switching to glance, but just to know, how to set a snapshot as private when done by nova image-create plz ? | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: we need a new blueprint for liberty, and the old blueprint is now complete | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: but once we have a spec, I can fast approved that, I believe | 13:11 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: sdague was asking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171865/ if it was also the same behaviour for cells operators | 13:11 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: ie. if operators were needing to sync manually the networks between the api and the cell dbs | 13:12 |
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| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: ah, reasonable. maybe alex_xu does it soon ;-) | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: sdague: we use nova-network, we do manually sync flavors at this point, it turns out, but that should be fixed now | 13:12 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: by looking at the code, I can't see the Cells API providing some help for n-net | 13:12 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: what about networks ? | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: I suspect it doesn't, each of our cells has a different network | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: that assumption might be built in, thinking about it | 13:13 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: because I only see the compute api to be overrided by the cells api | 13:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: just ping me if things are slow, and I will try move that along as fast as possible, sorry for the slow down, its where are tooling + process are not helping each other at the moment :( | 13:13 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: so I can see that if there is an instance.save() it goes to both api and cell dbs (and this is racy) | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs: New API for get service info from id https://review.openstack.org/172412 | 13:14 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: but there is not the same behaviour for networks IIRC | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: right (the races are avoided in the most horrible way… but try ignore that, its going away) | 13:14 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I got it. thanks for paying attention for this | 13:15 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: alaski and I discussed on that race yesterday evening because we're hitting it on a cells tempest test | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: not sure if you got my worries about v2.1 and validation from earlier discussion in here | 13:15 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: but let's wait alaski while you're discussing with oomichi | 13:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: we have some stuff downstream, its possible "its fixed" in there, the mysqldb driver, but we are trying to kill that | 13:16 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: I'd like to know your concern about v2.1 | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: basically thinking about changing the validation, so v2.0 requests are only partially validated (i.e. if no version is specified we just strip those from the request, and only error out if required parameters are invalid, or something like that), such that SDKs keep working, in their broken way, for now | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: i just think that will allow us (as in rackspace public cloud) to turn on v2.1 earlier, I suspect other operators will have a similar view, but I am not sure | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: for request with any version header added, we validate the properly using all the good stuff we have added | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/the/that/ | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: not sure if alaski will be around today, but I could be wrong | 13:19 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: oh ok | 13:19 |
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| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I see your concern. v2.0's validation likes blacklist, but v2.1's validation does whitelist. strong validation causes these concern. | 13:19 |
| bauwser | anyway, we're now in Liberty so that's less urgent as we missed the Kilo timeframe | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: I am fine with you fixing the race, mostly the stuff we have is just looking for invalid state transitions and dropping them, etc | 13:20 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: tempest also sent invalid request which was denied by v2.1 validation. | 13:20 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: yeah I have plans | 13:20 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: ok, so that devstack patch would make cells in devstack unlike all actual cells deploys? | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: we could still get the cells job passing on stable right, if we get it fixed before RC2 | 13:20 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: the idea is that when a .save() occurs, it goes down to the cell db and then goes back to the api db | 13:21 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: that back-and-forth is terrible if another instance.save() is occurring at the same time for the same uuid | 13:21 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: and when we faced these problems on tempest, we investigated some SDKs' code and they sent *valid* requests. | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: so, I am not totally sure, is the bad answer, CERN still use cells and nova-network, not quite sure how they deal with that, I know we are neutron for over a year, and I can't remember what we did before (not sure I ever knew) | 13:22 |
| bauwser | belmiro is not online now :/ | 13:22 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: so we were surprised because Tempest is in openstack, but it sent invalid request than SDK's | 13:23 |
| sdague | oomichi: could you provide that information in the spec | 13:23 |
| sdague | so it's written down | 13:23 |
| oomichi | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/v3-api-policy,n,z 's one ? | 13:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhengguang Ou proposed openstack/nova: Fix the race condition between detaching volume and creating image https://review.openstack.org/166152 | 13:24 |
| sdague | oomichi: "<oomichi> johnthetubaguy: and when we faced these problems on tempest, we investigated some SDKs' code and they sent *valid* requests." | 13:24 |
| sdague | getting your results from that investigation into a spec about why the validation should be fine would be good | 13:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, its a good datapoint | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: I should try get someone on our team to see how hard this would be, as it seems a small price to pay for quicker v2.1 adoption | 13:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: the key thing is that I don't want zero validation, I just want to drop un expected parameters for non versioned requests, basically | 13:26 |
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| oomichi | sdague: yeah, that was based on your request ;) please wait a minute | 13:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: by drop I mean, remove them from the request, instead of sending a bad request error code, so it better matches v2.0 | 13:27 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: do you have reference libraries that add random stuff? | 13:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think it was an old version of pyrax that did this, but I haven't managed to find the email about that, so I would have to dig in the history I guess | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: it might have been our cloud cafe tests though, I wish I could give something more concrete | 13:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: to be clear, I don't want to give the API folks extra work just to make me happy, just floating the idea, and it seems useful I will try to get that worked on | 13:30 |
| sdague | ok, fair | 13:30 |
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| sdague | yeh, I don't know how hard it will be to make the json schema allow for random parts like that | 13:30 |
| sdague | because it's not like the validator is nova code | 13:30 |
| sdague | it's jsonschema | 13:31 |
| sdague | so this might be not possible | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, if its messy, then maybe its not worth it, but seems worth a punt | 13:31 |
| sdague | yeh, that's fair | 13:31 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy, sdague: my investigation of that is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138245/ , the comments of PS4 are that. | 13:31 |
| sdague | oomichi: can you put those comments into the spec itself. It seems useful to reference in the spec | 13:32 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy, sdague: but I'm not sure your request. v2.1 dev is done in Kilo, so we don't need a spec for Liberty now. | 13:32 |
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| sdague | oomichi: I'd update the existing spec with that info | 13:32 |
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| sdague | mostly so we have reference to this fact moving forward | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: oomichi: thanks, appreciate that, good to document that | 13:33 |
| sdague | it's ok, to update old specs to provide them with more information that reflects reality | 13:33 |
| sdague | just so it's easy to find and reference in the future | 13:33 |
| oomichi | sdague: ah, I see. so I will do it next week because my baby starts crying now | 13:34 |
| sdague | oomichi: totally fair, get back to your baby :) | 13:34 |
| dansmith | my baby is crying now too, can I go? | 13:34 |
| oomichi | dansmith: need to go ;) | 13:35 |
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| bauwser | lol, good headsets can save a remotee's life | 13:41 |
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| dansmith | I don't have kids, I as just hoping to use the excuse anyway | 13:46 |
| mriedem | loud white noise is what saves lives | 13:46 |
| mriedem | a good poop, a full belly and loud white noise | 13:47 |
| mriedem | works on babies, works on me :) | 13:47 |
| dansmith | lol | 13:47 |
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| mriedem | no rc1 yet? | 13:48 |
| mriedem | oh nvm | 13:48 |
| mriedem | superdan: you have to change the channel topic | 13:49 |
| superdan | ah, yep | 13:49 |
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| mriedem | oh boy | 13:49 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sdague just quickly, looks like not very hard to allow random part in json-schema, provide a custom 'additionalProperties' validator at https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/validation/validators.py#L91 | 13:51 |
| sdague | alex_xu: ok, so that might be a good thing to do | 13:52 |
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| gillllliard | superdan: Have you seen bug 1442602? | 13:52 |
| openstack | bug 1442602 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration fails during destination host check" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442602 | 13:52 |
| alex_xu | sdague: if we want to think about idea, I can write poc code prove that works later | 13:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: ah good spot, that could work | 13:53 |
| superdan | gillllliard: wow, that was fast | 13:53 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: and _SchemaValidator was create pre-request, so probably works | 13:53 |
| gillllliard | I don't really understand how the rpc version proxying works, but it seems to be related... | 13:54 |
| superdan | gillllliard: yep, I'll fix it, thanks | 13:54 |
| gillllliard | cooooool | 13:54 |
| superdan | well, that's not even close to right | 13:55 |
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| jogo | long live lemming | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix check_can_live_migrate_destination() in ComputeV4Proxy https://review.openstack.org/172429 | 14:06 |
| superdan | gillllliard: thanks for the heads up. Fixed ^ | 14:06 |
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| superdan | we're going to need an rc2 for that | 14:06 |
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| gillllliard | tdurakov: ^^ | 14:06 |
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| superdan | tdurakov: yes, kudos to you as well :) | 14:07 |
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| bauwser | superdan: mmm, wondering about the convo we had yesterday and the pattern of VoldProxy vs. VnewProxy | 14:07 |
| sdague | superdan: you have the backport ? | 14:08 |
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| superdan | sdague: oh, right, I forgot I have to do that :) | 14:08 |
| bauwser | superdan: just wondering how we can prevent that | 14:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | superdan: I think I added the tag on that bug, let me know if I need to do anything more. | 14:08 |
| superdan | bauwser: if we had done it earlier than the day of the release, I would have written a test to validate the signatures | 14:08 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: yep, it's on there | 14:09 |
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| superdan | bauwser: next time we do it, we can evaluate better ways if we do it earlier | 14:09 |
| tdurakov | superdan: checked your commit, what about rpcapi.py? | 14:09 |
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| superdan | tdurakov: what about it? | 14:09 |
| bauwser | superdan: yeah, my point is about the opportunity of keeping that pattern if the manager is fat | 14:09 |
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| bauwser | superdan: but yeah, sure, tests can cover this | 14:09 |
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| tdurakov | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/rpcapi.py#L399 | 14:10 |
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| superdan | tdurakov: the destination param is *supposed* to be passed there | 14:11 |
| tdurakov | superdan: should we have destination in method args? | 14:11 |
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| superdan | tdurakov: the problem was that it wasn't passed (intentionally) to the destination | 14:11 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy / superdan - also approving https://review.openstack.org/172435 will make the backporting a little simpler | 14:11 |
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| superdan | tdurakov: when we write the proxy, we do it from the rpcapi, not the current manager to figure out what is the current level of support, and I just accidentally copied that param to it | 14:12 |
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| superdan | because it's non-standardly named, per my commit message | 14:12 |
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| tdurakov | superdan: I see, looks fine then) | 14:12 |
| superdan | sdague: is that a thing we do? | 14:12 |
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| gillllliard | Are we able to make the aiopcpu job voting soon? | 14:13 |
| sdague | superdan: we do on stable | 14:13 |
| artom | sahid, about console objects | 14:13 |
| sdague | I don't see why we wouldn't on proposed | 14:13 |
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| artom | You submitted the spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165838/) | 14:13 |
| superdan | sdague: okay | 14:13 |
| superdan | well regardless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172434/ | 14:13 |
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| superdan | gillllliard: it'll probably be a while | 14:13 |
| artom | And then mike durnosvistov submitted some code https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135035/ | 14:13 |
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| bauwser | superdan: happy with making someone happy ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149746/ | 14:15 |
| artom | So I'm wondering what's the plan with that... | 14:15 |
| superdan | bauwser: thanks :) | 14:15 |
| bauwser | oh, 3 specs all related to having a weigher for image caches... | 14:16 |
| bauwser | what's suddently so wrong so 3 people are raising the same interest at the same time ? | 14:17 |
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| bauwser | with 3 different implementations ? | 14:17 |
| alaski | sdague: bauwser johnthetubaguy I'm in today, just slow getting here | 14:17 |
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| bauwser | lascii: np | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | lascii: sorry, my bad | 14:18 |
| bauwser | lascii: sdague was wondering if it was a normal behaviour to sync networks | 14:18 |
| sdague | lascii: right, so that devstack cells patch | 14:18 |
| bauwser | lascii: as per the code, I tend to say yes | 14:18 |
| lascii | sdague: to answer your question, creating networks is not something we do in our deployment so that's nonstandard from our pov, but so is passing in a created network on boot | 14:18 |
| lascii | sdague: if we were to do that, we would do it the way it's done in the patch. like we manually sync our flavors | 14:19 |
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| bauwser | lascii: I wonder how CERN is dealing with that (or Nectar) | 14:19 |
| lascii | bauwser: that's a good question. I don't know | 14:19 |
| sahid | artom: the plan is to remove console/types.py to use objects | 14:19 |
| sdague | lascii: so I guess that's the root question. There are many ways to make tests pass | 14:19 |
| sdague | assertTrue(True) is one way | 14:20 |
| sahid | and so remove the dict connect_info | 14:20 |
| sahid | passed between rpc | 14:20 |
| lascii | sdague: ideally we would go back to not looking up and passing in networks on boot | 14:20 |
| sahid | but i need to rework the spec | 14:20 |
| sdague | so I don't really know if this devstack change is a reasonable change because that's the way cells should work | 14:20 |
| artom | sahid, right, I'm just confused as to who's doing that ;) | 14:20 |
| sdague | lascii: ok, has anyone brought that up with mtreinish ? | 14:20 |
| artom | Since the spec is you but the code is mike | 14:20 |
| artom | Yet the BP says you're the assignee | 14:21 |
| sahid | artom: it is not the same area | 14:21 |
| lascii | sdague: yes. he had a patch up to do that, but wasn't a big fan of modifying behaviour based on backend setups | 14:21 |
| bauwser | sdague: we briefly discussed on that a couple of days ago | 14:21 |
| sahid | that is why i have to rework the spec to make it clear | 14:21 |
| artom | sahid, aha! | 14:21 |
| sahid | artom: yes | 14:21 |
| lascii | sdague: I consider it reasonable because it matches how we setup flavors. they need to match in the api and cell db | 14:21 |
| sdague | ok | 14:21 |
| lascii | I don't think it's a good place to be in, but solving that syncing issue will take time if we want to tackle it | 14:23 |
| artom | sahid, Mike's code definitely defines a new Console object :) | 14:23 |
| sdague | no, that's fine | 14:23 |
| artom | Anyways, I'll leave you be and wait for the revised spec to be submitted. | 14:23 |
| sahid | artom: yes from the API point of view, my spec is to handle connect_info (virt point of view) | 14:24 |
| sahid | for sure there will be relation at the end :) | 14:24 |
| artom | Ah, I think I understand. | 14:24 |
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| artom | Mike = "create" Console object | 14:25 |
| artom | You = "consume" Console object | 14:25 |
| sahid | hm... i guess :) | 14:25 |
| sahid | artom: anyway let me refine the spec and you will understand better for sure | 14:26 |
| artom | That didn't sound very confident ^^ | 14:26 |
| artom | Haha, for sure | 14:26 |
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| artom | There's the native SPICE console spec (from our Red Hat Trello) that'll depend on Console objects | 14:28 |
| mriedem | obondarev_: now that liberty is open, i'm going to push some patches that reduce the complexity of neutron.allocate_for_instance since i don't want to wait another 3 months for a refactor spec to land | 14:28 |
| mriedem | obondarev_: given we can't fix bugs in that code today | 14:28 |
| bauwser | artom: *upstream* | 14:28 |
| artom | bauwser, eh? I'm writing the spec as we speak :) | 14:28 |
| artom | But it started internally. | 14:29 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: do you expect we'll have another umbrella blueprint for remaining object conversions? We don't have many left, but things like this need something to count against: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149746/13 | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: sounds like we can treat those as bugs, unless you want the tracking? | 14:35 |
| tdurakov | superdan: find another typo | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: I can approve a bp quickly without a spec if thats going to help you | 14:36 |
| mriedem | there is more than bugs | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: fixed order of arguments during execution live_migrate() https://review.openstack.org/172445 | 14:36 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: I dunno, a blueprint makes them easier | 14:36 |
| mriedem | yes | 14:36 |
| mriedem | there is rt stuff and scheduler stuff | 14:36 |
| mriedem | that needs some object work | 14:36 |
| mriedem | and neuronv2 | 14:36 |
| superdan | mriedem: yeah, but those will get their own I think | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: cool, just approve it, I would say | 14:36 |
| ndipanov | scheduler + RT | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: +1 | 14:36 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: okay, I'll create a bp with no spec, approve it and then have this respun under that | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: sweet, sounds like a good plan | 14:37 |
| tdurakov | superdan: check patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172445/ | 14:37 |
| superdan | tdurakov: will in a sec | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: tests: introduce a NUMAServersTest class https://review.openstack.org/155006 | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: tests: use numa xml automatic generation in libvirt tests https://review.openstack.org/172448 | 14:37 |
| mriedem | ganso_: were you able to backport those patches to juno and see if it resolves your tempest race issue? | 14:37 |
| superdan | tdurakov: yep | 14:38 |
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| superdan | tdurakov: one nit, otherwise good | 14:39 |
| superdan | tdurakov: with that does live migration work? | 14:39 |
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| ganso_ | mriedem: I haven't had time yet, sorry, will do as soon as I can | 14:40 |
| mriedem | superdan: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/compute/rpcapi.py#n587 | 14:40 |
| superdan | mriedem: what about it? | 14:40 |
| mriedem | it is consistent with rpcapi | 14:41 |
| mriedem | same happened with detach_volume i believe | 14:41 |
| superdan | mriedem: right, but it's manager side | 14:41 |
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| tdurakov | superdan: I found that during --block-migrate checks, there are some errors in my env, but, not sure they connected with proxy class, you'd added | 14:41 |
| superdan | tdurakov: okay, any testing you can do quickly is appreciated for sure | 14:41 |
| superdan | I think this is probably the only place in the rpc api we don't have coverage during a test run | 14:42 |
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| superdan | well, except for a few things only covered by xen ci.. :| | 14:42 |
| mriedem | wouldn't aiocpu hit this? | 14:42 |
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| * mriedem checks the prevoius change | 14:42 | |
| gillllliard | yes | 14:42 |
| gillllliard | no, wait, I read that wrong. | 14:42 |
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| superdan | I think it will yeah | 14:43 |
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| superdan | I meant by gating things | 14:43 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/52/172152/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-aiopcpu-full/3847521/console.html#_2015-04-09_23_18_18_721 | 14:43 |
| mriedem | yup | 14:43 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/52/172152/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-aiopcpu-full/3847521/logs/screen-n-cond.txt.gz?level=TRACE | 14:43 |
| mriedem | bam | 14:43 |
| mriedem | i didn't check that job since it's been failing for awhile consistently now | 14:44 |
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| superdan | as soon as we shake these out and have our final release, we'll rip all this out | 14:44 |
| superdan | dropping 40 revs is, like, really nice | 14:44 |
| mriedem | so this bug is going to be kilo rc2 right? | 14:44 |
| superdan | yes | 14:44 |
| superdan | feel free to blame me | 14:45 |
| mriedem | no, we had the job, i didn't check the results | 14:45 |
| mriedem | need to get aiocpu voting in liberty | 14:45 |
| superdan | voting would be nice, stable enough to consult regularly would be an improvement too | 14:45 |
| superdan | waiting for tdurakov to see that live migration is broken is ... not as nice :) | 14:46 |
| mriedem | superdan: tdurakov: so it looks like check_can_live_migrate_destination is also busted | 14:46 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/52/172152/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-aiopcpu-full/3847521/logs/screen-n-cond.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2015-04-09_23_18_18_462 | 14:46 |
| tdurakov | superdan: checking l-m | 14:47 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: already fixed | 14:47 |
| superdan | mriedem: yeah, that's my patch right? | 14:47 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:47 |
| superdan | the good thing is, | 14:48 |
| superdan | if we hit another one of these after release, | 14:48 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: ttx: we need a kilo rc2 milestone to track a bug | 14:48 |
| superdan | pinning to kilo will fix it | 14:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I guess its happening now for sure, not sure whats normal, added the requested tag for now | 14:49 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: I figured we waited for ttx to do that | 14:50 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: but yes, definitely will need one | 14:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:50 |
| mriedem | superdan: you have the power to add milestones now too don't you? or is that only novaclient? | 14:50 |
| superdan | I don't | 14:50 |
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| superdan | I'm not important | 14:50 |
| mriedem | i thought all nova-drivers did, oh well | 14:50 |
| superdan | I don't think so | 14:50 |
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| tdurakov | superdan: what do you think: http://paste.openstack.org/show/202071/ | 14:53 |
| superdan | tdurakov: hmm, unrelated to this I think | 14:53 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: that could be the tunneling thing | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | not sure it's connected with you patch, It's about libvirt config | 14:53 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: we have a job that tests live migration | 14:53 |
| ttx | So.. creating a rc2 now kind of sends the wrong message to testers. (message being "no need to tset that, it's already toasted") | 14:53 |
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| ttx | You shoudl use the kilo-rc-potential tag to track potential RC bugs until we open a RC2 window | 14:54 |
| mriedem | already done | 14:54 |
| superdan | tdurakov: when you revise your patch, make it depends-on mine and then we'll get a consistent result from the upstream job | 14:54 |
| superdan | ttx: we've done that | 14:54 |
| ttx | That may involve cleaning up the tag | 14:54 |
| ttx | superdan: great than | 14:54 |
| ttx | then | 14:54 |
| mriedem | superdan: which patch of yours? | 14:54 |
| mriedem | nvm | 14:54 |
| mriedem | i see | 14:55 |
| superdan | ttx: so we've tagged it, you know about it, we'll just fix things until further instruction from you, right? | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Grzegorz Grasza (xek) proposed openstack/nova: Recover instance state after nova-compute service failure during spawn https://review.openstack.org/167281 | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Grzegorz Grasza (xek) proposed openstack/nova: Recover instance state after nova-compute failure during spawn https://review.openstack.org/167281 | 14:55 |
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| mriedem | +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172429/ | 14:56 |
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| ttx | superdan: right. On Tuesday I'll discuss with John whether we have "enough" to justify a respin and then consider every fix that landed in master as candidates for RC2 backport | 14:56 |
| superdan | ttx: roger that, thanks! | 14:56 |
| ttx | (hint: there will be a RC2, but don't tell) | 14:57 |
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| superdan | my lips are sealed :) | 14:57 |
| ttx | <loud>That RC1 is so awesome ! you should test it!</loud> | 14:57 |
| dimsum__ | haha | 14:57 |
| tdurakov | superdan: i'll make my patch depends on your, anything else? | 14:57 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: nope | 14:58 |
| superdan | tdurakov: that and my comment in the patch, that's it | 14:58 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: i didn't know superdan had a fix for the other thing | 14:58 |
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| tdurakov | superdan: about consistency of method args in rpc api and manager method? | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172434/ | 14:59 |
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| mriedem | yeah i know :) | 15:00 |
| superdan | tdurakov: just consistency in the proxy method and the call it makes | 15:00 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: yours needs to depend on the change on master branch, not the cherry pick on proposed/kilo | 15:00 |
| superdan | yeah | 15:00 |
| mriedem | but we'll also need a proposed/kilo for your change that depends on superdan's proposed/kilo cherry pick | 15:00 |
| mriedem | we could just squash these... | 15:00 |
| superdan | sounds like it'll be better if we have "two whole patches" to justify the rc2 | 15:01 |
| superdan | but I don't care :) | 15:01 |
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| mriedem | i don't care either as long as tdurakov is a git review -d and cherry-pick -x wiz :) | 15:05 |
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| dimsum__ | mriedem: superdan: ComputeManager's live_migration has a couple of decorators and _ComputeV4Proxy's live_migration method is does not have those. by design? | 15:09 |
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| superdan | dimsum__: yeah, that's fine | 15:09 |
| dimsum__ | cool thx | 15:10 |
| superdan | dimsum__: we just call through those anyway, so we get the same result | 15:10 |
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| mriedem | obondarev_: superdan: jogo: getting the ball rolling: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172465/ | 15:13 |
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| mriedem | heh, +30 LOC docstring | 15:14 |
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| dimsum__ | superdan: 11 methods dropped by design too? | 15:31 |
| dimsum__ | superdan: http://paste.openstack.org/show/202087/ | 15:31 |
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| superdan | dimsum__: most of those are not rpc methods | 15:32 |
| superdan | dimsum__: so, yeah | 15:32 |
| dimsum__ | ok just making sure | 15:32 |
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| superdan | dimsum__: the reason this is error-prone is that the matching needs to be between what rpcapi can call, and this proxy | 15:33 |
| superdan | dimsum__: but unfortunately, there are a bunch of inconsistencies for no reason | 15:33 |
| superdan | dimsum__: so it's hard to do it programmatically | 15:33 |
| dimsum__ | superdan: right, yep | 15:33 |
| superdan | dimsum__: anyway, not discouraging you from continuing to scrape that for bugs :) | 15:34 |
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| dimsum__ | y, based on yours and tdurakov's reviews, i checked for the parameters and the methods, so i think we are good :) | 15:35 |
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| superdan | cool | 15:35 |
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| jichen | mriedem: hi | 15:52 |
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| jichen | can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1442501? we tried https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16640 and seems it's a bug that need to be fixed in kilo | 15:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1442501 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Fail to boot VM from image with one ephemeral disk" [Undecided,New] | 15:55 |
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| mriedem | jichen: is this a recent regression in kilo? | 16:00 |
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| mriedem | jichen: ah i guess it would be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126303/ | 16:02 |
| jogo | superdan: nice | 16:02 |
| jichen | mriedem: zhao qin opened it today, I had a talk with him ,http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059332.html has more info | 16:03 |
| jogo | superdan mriedem: speaking of getting the ball rolling it may be time to re-review the online db migration stuff for Lemming | 16:03 |
| jogo | hmm is the spec in for Lemming on that yet? we may need that first | 16:03 |
| superdan | yeah, probably need to move that to lemming | 16:04 |
| jogo | jerdfelt: ^ | 16:04 |
| jichen | mriedem: he tried my patch locally and it works | 16:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/nova: Log a warning if sec-groups and port id are provided on boot https://review.openstack.org/154068 | 16:07 |
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| superdan | tdurakov: were you going to push up a new rev of your patch? | 16:08 |
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| mriedem | jichen: there are a lot of moving parts here between multiple changes and multiple bugs | 16:08 |
| mriedem | jichen: novaclient keeps coming up | 16:08 |
| mriedem | and it looks like the bad thing in novaclient was reverted, but is not in a released novaclient yet | 16:09 |
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| jichen | mriedem: yes, but in order to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1442501, we need to backport something | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1442501 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Fail to boot VM from image with one ephemeral disk" [High,Confirmed] | 16:09 |
| tdurakov | superdan: in couple of minutes | 16:09 |
| mriedem | jichen: what i'm not understanding is if we're just changing a thing in nova to make novaclient work? | 16:09 |
| superdan | tdurakov: okay just checking | 16:10 |
| jichen | no, the novaclient patch already in | 16:10 |
| mriedem | backport something? | 16:10 |
| tdurakov | superdan: maybe squash them? | 16:10 |
| jichen | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165932/ | 16:10 |
| jichen | mriedem: this patch is for novaclient, already merged | 16:10 |
| superdan | tdurakov: if you just do the linkage right, we don't need to squash them | 16:10 |
| tdurakov | superdan: what do you think? | 16:10 |
| mriedem | jichen: there isn't a backport for client libs, they move forward | 16:10 |
| tdurakov | superdan: ok | 16:10 |
| mriedem | or do you mean revert the revert? | 16:10 |
| jichen | mriedem: no ,sorry, let me try to explain the issue ,the only thing we need to do is merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16640 | 16:11 |
| jichen | mriedem: which is a nova patch, the nova client patch already merged | 16:11 |
| mriedem | jichen: that's the wrong patch | 16:11 |
| mriedem | you mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166401/ | 16:12 |
| jichen | ooops | 16:12 |
| jichen | mriedem: yes,sorry | 16:12 |
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| jogo | johnthetubaguy: it may be a good idea to remind folks about nova's fast re-approval policy for approved but not implimented kilo specs | 16:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jogo: yes, I was thinking about that earlier, just a general spec reminder | 16:13 |
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| jogo | johnthetubaguy: yup. That and I think we should try to land the online db migrations stuff before the summit | 16:13 |
| jogo | johnthetubaguy: as it was a previous priority, got really close and just barely missed the deadline | 16:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jogo: thats for starting off that thread about priority, appreciate that | 16:14 |
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| jogo | johnthetubaguy: np, the etherpad is pretty empty so far, not sure if that is a good or bad | 16:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | jogo: yeah, agreed, I need to check with jerdfelt to see about who will have time to push that | 16:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jogo: lol, possibly good | 16:14 |
| jogo | anyway time to board my flight to Miami | 16:15 |
| jogo | o/ | 16:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | jogo: ah, enjoy | 16:15 |
| dimsum_ | safe trips jogo! | 16:15 |
| jogo | dimsum_: thanks | 16:15 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: are you around to explain https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166401/ ? | 16:16 |
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| ndipanov | around yes | 16:17 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, oddly I have no memory of this | 16:17 |
| ndipanov | ah right no I remember | 16:18 |
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| mriedem | ha | 16:18 |
| ndipanov | right - so see the bug | 16:18 |
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| ndipanov | this was paired with a revert in python novaclient | 16:18 |
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| mriedem | yeah, saw that | 16:19 |
| ndipanov | the idea is that soruce=image, dest=local is right now only possible for boot images | 16:19 |
| ndipanov | we had an idea to implement it for random images | 16:19 |
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| ndipanov | so you could have 2 disks that are downloaded from glance to the hypervisor storage | 16:20 |
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| ndipanov | (or ceph or similar) | 16:20 |
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| ndipanov | the idea was to be able to do image building | 16:20 |
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| ndipanov | but that somehow never took off, and adding support for it is actually not that trivial because all of the code in nova specialcases instance.image | 16:21 |
| ndipanov | so the idea was to fail such requests | 16:22 |
| ndipanov | but the first fix that was proposed was broken | 16:22 |
| ndipanov | so this is a fix of a fix | 16:22 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, make sense? | 16:22 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: so the first fix to not allow it was broken in general, not just for some assumptions that novaclient was making | 16:24 |
| mriedem | as in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126303/ is busted | 16:25 |
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| ndipanov | yes | 16:25 |
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| mriedem | and novaclient made this change to avoid that breakage https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153203/ | 16:26 |
| mriedem | which was reverted here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165932/ | 16:26 |
| mriedem | but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165932/ won't work w/o https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166401/ | 16:26 |
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| mriedem | jichen: chaochin: ^ do i have that right? | 16:27 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, that is correct | 16:27 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: ok | 16:27 |
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| mriedem | which is why jichen said in the novaclient revert: | 16:28 |
| mriedem | "oops https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166401/3 not landed ...." | 16:28 |
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| mriedem | b/c novaclient trunk right now won't work with nova | 16:28 |
| ndipanov | yes | 16:28 |
| mriedem | gd what a mess | 16:29 |
| ndipanov | well it didn't work before either | 16:29 |
| mriedem | until https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153203/3 | 16:29 |
| mriedem | which is in 2.23 | 16:29 |
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| mriedem | anyway, seems like we're good with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166401/ then | 16:29 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, yes please | 16:30 |
| ndipanov | thanks! | 16:30 |
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| mriedem | ok, the bug is already marked kilo-rc-potential | 16:31 |
| mriedem | so i guess we'll see if it makes rc2 | 16:31 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, the way people should look at it is from the API pov | 16:31 |
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| mriedem | anyway, +W, i'm going to lunch | 16:32 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: thanks for clarifying | 16:32 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, enjoy | 16:32 |
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| sks | I have a question. I installed devstack. When I did "nova list" from a tenant to the public network ip(172.24.4.5) it fails. But the ping to gateway(172.24.4.1 ) works. | 16:34 |
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| sks | can anybody provide me a clue to fix this? | 16:35 |
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| sks | I think there is some routing issue but i dont know to fix this | 16:37 |
| sks | http://fpaste.org/209510/42868349/ | 16:38 |
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| tdurakov | superdan: done | 16:40 |
| superdan | tdurakov: cool, thanks | 16:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Avoid indexing into an empty list in getcallargs https://review.openstack.org/172163 | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | lascii: looks like you lost your dep on the rebase | 17:45 |
| lascii | mriedem: on purpose. It's no longer needed for that patch | 17:45 |
| mriedem | just read that :) | 17:45 |
| mriedem | fancy | 17:46 |
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| lascii | got lucky and stumbled across that for some reason | 17:46 |
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| mriedem | lascii: are you unit tests now testing basically how the oslo code works too? | 17:46 |
| mriedem | *your | 17:46 |
| lascii | mriedem: a bit, yeah | 17:47 |
| mriedem | but | 17:47 |
| mriedem | maybe not all ad | 17:47 |
| mriedem | *bad | 17:47 |
| mriedem | damn | 17:47 |
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| mriedem | lascii: btw, this series is going to be in rc2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172429/ | 17:49 |
| mriedem | aiocpu fails on superdan's change but the dependent change fixes that | 17:49 |
| superdan | sweet | 17:49 |
| superdan | that's what we want to see | 17:49 |
| mriedem | yup | 17:49 |
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| superdan | super awesome to have that available now | 17:50 |
| superdan | and... ceph gating is in the gate | 17:50 |
| lascii | okay, let me check it real quick | 17:50 |
| mriedem | nice | 17:50 |
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| mriedem | superdan: i dumped my laundry list of CI wants in the ML on mikal's liberty priorities thread | 17:50 |
| superdan | cool | 17:51 |
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| iwi | hi there, is there any disadvantage of setting reservation_expire to a value that is <1h ? | 17:52 |
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| claudiub_ | lascii: pep8 will fail on that change | 18:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Return bandwidth usage after updating https://review.openstack.org/172524 | 18:04 |
| lascii | claudiub_: thanks, I suppose I should actually run that locally | 18:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/nova: Removes extra footer now that oslosphinx contains it https://review.openstack.org/172525 | 18:05 |
| lascii | I always forget that after I get tests working | 18:05 |
| claudiub_ | no problem. :) | 18:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Store context in local store after spawn_n https://review.openstack.org/171299 | 18:08 |
| superdan | mriedem: I put up the backport of tdurakov's patch | 18:10 |
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| superdan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172527/1 | 18:10 |
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| mriedem | +1 | 18:10 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1441169 | 18:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441169 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "can't schedule vm with numa topology and pci device" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Przemyslaw Czesnowicz (pczesno) | 18:25 |
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| ndipanov | I'd say it would be really good to get in for RC 2 as well | 18:25 |
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| mriedem | ugh, numa | 18:26 |
| mriedem | numa + pci | 18:26 |
| mriedem | double ugh | 18:26 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, lol | 18:29 |
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| ndipanov | this one is actually objects -> dicts | 18:30 |
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| ndipanov | bug | 18:30 |
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| ndipanov | in the pci stats | 18:30 |
| ndipanov | from_dict would drop the field as it's not on the object | 18:31 |
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| ndipanov | fwiw - I spent about 2 hours figuring it out and I know that (sad) code | 18:31 |
| ndipanov | so don't feel bad | 18:31 |
| ndipanov | :) | 18:32 |
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| mriedem | oh i don't feel bad about numa/pci breaking constantly :) | 18:33 |
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| ndipanov | it doesn't break constantly what do you mean | 18:33 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, but while we're on the subject https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169245/ | 18:35 |
| mriedem | ffs | 18:36 |
| mriedem | you need danpb back for all of these :P | 18:36 |
| mriedem | or jaypipes on that scheduler patch | 18:36 |
| ndipanov | that one is actually general scheduler brokenness, not NUMA | 18:36 |
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| ndipanov | I mean not brokenness | 18:38 |
| ndipanov | state of the art lock-free architecture | 18:38 |
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| dmz | howdy ya'll, google isn't showing me anything so i thought i'd ask, i'm bringing up my 2nd region and when I run su -s /bin/sh -c "nova-manage db sync" nova I get an error that create table project_user_quotas specified key was too long max key length 1000 bytes | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Return bandwidth usage after updating https://review.openstack.org/172524 | 18:56 |
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| artom | In the nova/network/api.py, when returning a list (specifically a FloatingIPList), is there a way to remove certain items from the list? | 19:12 |
| artom | This arises because as far as I can tell, there's no way to make FloatingIPList construct the "correct" list by itself. | 19:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova: Update cells version alias for kilo https://review.openstack.org/172545 | 19:19 |
| superdan | artom: it's a list, so, sure, but what is incorrect about it? | 19:20 |
| mriedem | melwitt: is that a thing that needs to be in kilo then? | 19:20 |
| artom | superdan, context: I'm getting a head start on code for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171389/ (I know I know, I should wait until it's approved) | 19:21 |
| artom | So the all_tenants param needs to be added to both the neutron client and nova network. | 19:21 |
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| artom | The incorrect part arises because in the neutron client, the existing list_floatingip return only associated floating IPs. | 19:23 |
| superdan | mriedem: it's just an alias, so it doesn't need to block anything | 19:23 |
| superdan | mriedem: but if we're doing one... | 19:23 |
| artom | In nova network, the equivalent existing method gets you *all* floating ips. | 19:23 |
| artom | So I need to filter out those without a host. | 19:23 |
| superdan | artom: that's going to be really painful | 19:24 |
| superdan | artom: because a lot of nova-network installations have a crapton of addresses in the database | 19:24 |
| superdan | artom: and selecting ALL of them and filtering some out at the network api layer is going to be massively inefficient | 19:24 |
| melwitt | mriedem, superdan: I wasn't sure if the alias is optional, that is I was reviewing a patch that adds a new version and realized there wasn't an entry for kilo now that we have kilo | 19:24 |
| artom | superdan, ah. I was kinda hoping to avoid adding new methods to the DB api. | 19:25 |
| superdan | melwitt: it's just handy, it doesn't do anything | 19:25 |
| superdan | melwitt: and would be easy to backport | 19:25 |
| artom | Looks like I have no choice. | 19:25 |
| melwitt | superdan: okay, cool | 19:25 |
| superdan | artom: well, there is a lot of mess in our network apis right now because people adding stuff to either one feel constrained by the lowest common denominator | 19:25 |
| superdan | artom: which really messes things up | 19:25 |
| superdan | artom: so if you need another thing from neutron api, or from nova network (via the db) then add it | 19:26 |
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| artom | superdan, gotcha. | 19:27 |
| artom | I'm sure there's something about fighting fire with fire, or adding more trash on the pile, or something to be made ;) | 19:27 |
| raj_ | Hi i m student and trying to learn openstack using devstack so later i can contribute to it.When i am running instance i cant access it by console or ssh .Dashboard showing its running | 19:28 |
| raj_ | Kindly help me | 19:28 |
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| superdan | raj_: please see topic. this is not the right channel for such a question | 19:30 |
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| mriedem | speaking of network api | 19:32 |
| superdan | ...speaking of smelly turds... | 19:33 |
| russellb | superdan: reviewstats is busted, but I think it's just because it's so damn inefficient, so i'm optimizing it now, so hope to have it stable again in a bit | 19:33 |
| russellb | just fyi i didn't forget | 19:33 |
| superdan | russellb: it was working the day after | 19:33 |
| superdan | russellb: haven't looked since then | 19:33 |
| russellb | yeah, but broken again | 19:33 |
| superdan | okay | 19:33 |
| mriedem | superdan: well i can't find it right now, but there are things in the neutron api that have had comments like 'this should be removed in v2 of the network api' for a long time | 19:34 |
| mriedem | so i'm wondering when that can happen | 19:34 |
| superdan | russellb: well, thanks for working on it | 19:34 |
| mriedem | some are from our very own russellb | 19:34 |
| mriedem | *network api, not neutron api | 19:34 |
| superdan | mriedem: in neutronapi? | 19:34 |
| superdan | ah | 19:34 |
| russellb | v2 rpc api? | 19:34 |
| superdan | yeah, if I hadn't been so late with the rpc bump, I'd have done network too | 19:34 |
| mriedem | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/network/rpcapi.py#n254 | 19:34 |
| superdan | but it's not as critical, I think | 19:34 |
| mriedem | e.g. | 19:34 |
| mriedem | i think it's network manager i'm thinking of though, | 19:35 |
| superdan | well, | 19:35 |
| superdan | I think we keep thinking it's going to go away, so there is no point | 19:35 |
| superdan | but if we're no closer near the end of lemming, we should just bump it and do the cleanup | 19:35 |
| mriedem | this stuff http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/network/manager.py#n1560 | 19:35 |
| mriedem | that's what i was thinking of | 19:35 |
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| mriedem | yeah, the 'it's going away' was what i heard last time, so brought it up again | 19:36 |
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| superdan | yep, those are all rpc v2 things | 19:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Replace service groups with the tooz groups https://review.openstack.org/172502 | 19:37 |
| superdan | gah, isn't it the weekend yet? | 19:38 |
| * superdan stares at the clock | 19:38 | |
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| mriedem | just put on some loverboy | 19:41 |
| mriedem | and your red leather pants | 19:41 |
| * superdan does as he's told (minus the pants) | 19:42 | |
| mriedem | btw, this guy loves it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d47kgZg93i0 | 19:42 |
| superdan | heh cowbell | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova-specs: Replace service groups with the tooz groups https://review.openstack.org/138607 | 19:43 |
| mriedem | he's like the prince of this cover | 19:44 |
| mriedem | plays all of the instruments | 19:44 |
| mriedem | makes love to the camera | 19:44 |
| mriedem | the whole nine yards | 19:44 |
| superdan | heh | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: reduce complexity of allocate_for_instance (requested_networks) https://review.openstack.org/172465 | 20:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: reduce complexity of allocate_for_instance (security_groups) https://review.openstack.org/172559 | 20:18 |
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| mriedem | PciDeviceStats :( | 20:22 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: if you're around, maybe you can answer my question on lack of testing here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171304/ | 20:28 |
| mriedem | basically, what test gap was there such that we didn't test PciDevicePool w/o a numa_node field and is that covered now somehow with the change | 20:28 |
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