Tuesday, 2015-05-05

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openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/nova: Use six.moves.range for Python 3  https://review.openstack.org/17997500:07
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Helper scripts for running under Apache2  https://review.openstack.org/17967200:11
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Try running a single test module with python34  https://review.openstack.org/17989300:15
jogovishy: o/ have a nova network question for you if if you have a moment00:15
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add separated policy rule for each v2.1 api  https://review.openstack.org/12786300:20
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openstackgerritDavid Bingham proposed openstack/nova: Allow cleanup completion when serial ports already released  https://review.openstack.org/17997800:24
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for service_get_by_host*  https://review.openstack.org/15034900:30
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for service_get_by_compute_host  https://review.openstack.org/16008900:30
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require from compute_node_get_all_by_* from db layer  https://review.openstack.org/17533400:39
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: Add policy enforcement test cases for pci API  https://review.openstack.org/17574500:39
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove instance_get_all_by_host(_and_node) hard-code admin check from db  https://review.openstack.org/17767300:39
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require for compute_node(get_all/search_by_hyperviso) from db  https://review.openstack.org/17574400:40
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require for compute_node_create/update/delete from db layer  https://review.openstack.org/17569300:40
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_get_all_*  https://review.openstack.org/16020200:42
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_create/update  https://review.openstack.org/16020300:42
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_destroy_all_*  https://review.openstack.org/16020100:42
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_usage_update  https://review.openstack.org/16021500:42
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_class_create/update  https://review.openstack.org/16020600:54
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_class_get_all_by_name  https://review.openstack.org/16020500:54
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup quota_class unittest with appropriate request context  https://review.openstack.org/15035100:54
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require from compute_node_get_all_by_* from db layer  https://review.openstack.org/17533400:55
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: Add policy enforcement test cases for pci API  https://review.openstack.org/17574500:55
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove instance_get_all_by_host(_and_node) hard-code admin check from db  https://review.openstack.org/17767300:55
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require for compute_node(get_all/search_by_hyperviso) from db  https://review.openstack.org/17574400:55
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require for compute_node_create/update/delete from db layer  https://review.openstack.org/17569300:55
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_get_all_*  https://review.openstack.org/16020202:07
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_create/update  https://review.openstack.org/16020302:07
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_destroy_all_*  https://review.openstack.org/16020102:07
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_usage_update  https://review.openstack.org/16021502:07
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openstackgerritLan Qi Song proposed openstack/nova: Remove useless volume when boot from volume failed  https://review.openstack.org/17708402:16
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openstackgerritzhangtralon proposed openstack/nova: DB:support for migration objects multi-statuses  https://review.openstack.org/16960402:22
openstackgerritzhangtralon proposed openstack/nova: add support for muti_statuses_query from migration  https://review.openstack.org/16963102:23
openstackgerritzhangtralon proposed openstack/nova: resize-revert can break anti-affinity policy  https://review.openstack.org/16011002:23
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openstackgerritzhangtralon proposed openstack/nova: filter_class_names is never passed  https://review.openstack.org/14328502:40
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Use oslo-config-generator  https://review.openstack.org/18001303:01
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RuiChenmelwitt: hello, are you here?03:08
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RuiChenmelwitt: I think the test cases can test the different request_ids, please see my comments03:09
RuiChenmelwitt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167926/03:09
openstackgerritzhangtralon proposed openstack/nova: filter_class_names is never passed  https://review.openstack.org/14328503:12
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openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: virt: introduce libosinfo library to set hardware policy  https://review.openstack.org/14962504:26
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring network model  https://review.openstack.org/14962704:26
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: adding libosinfo configuration  https://review.openstack.org/14962604:26
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring the disk bus  https://review.openstack.org/14962804:26
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openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve performance of UnShelve API  https://review.openstack.org/13538705:45
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openstackgerritzhangtralon proposed openstack/nova: resize-revert can break anti-affinity policy  https://review.openstack.org/16011006:19
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openstackgerritzhangtralon proposed openstack/nova: Support force_hosts in the ChanceScheduler  https://review.openstack.org/17195106:32
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eliqiao1alex_xu: ping06:34
alex_xueliqiao1: pong06:34
eliqiao1alex_xu: re - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145689/ can you help to check my replied comments when you are free? hope that makes sense to you.06:35
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alex_xueliqiao1: ok, will check it asap, thanks for the replied06:36
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openstackgerritVilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova-specs: Replace service groups with the tooz groups  https://review.openstack.org/13860707:17
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openstackgerritLianhao Lu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add new API to list compute node metrics  https://review.openstack.org/18004907:39
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add more properties to limits and used_limits api  https://review.openstack.org/14568907:44
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openstackgerritFeng Xi Yan proposed openstack/nova: Make vmware driver decode special character in cluster name.  https://review.openstack.org/14848808:07
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openstackgerritTomi Juvonen proposed openstack/nova-specs: New nova API call to mark nova-compute down  https://review.openstack.org/16983608:35
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: Resource tracker: use instance objects for claims  https://review.openstack.org/17964909:04
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sahidndipanov: can i have you review here it's about a thing in console https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179014/09:18
sahidplease :)09:18
sahidactually i removed some checks in the conditon so wondering to know if that makes sens for you too09:20
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openstackgerritAdelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Adds Hyper-V vNic hot-plug implementation  https://review.openstack.org/13825509:24
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ndipanovsahid, will look in a bit09:25
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova-specs: Validate the service state before deleting it  https://review.openstack.org/16327409:33
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openstackgerritAdelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Adds Hyper-V OVS ViF driver  https://review.openstack.org/14004509:51
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openstackgerritAdelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Adds Hyper-V vNic hot-plug implementation  https://review.openstack.org/13825509:52
mikalWow, there are a lot of bugs filed against the ironic driver09:55
bauzasmikal: AFAICS, some of them are related to how the scheduler is accounting their typical resources IMHO09:57
bauzasmikal: just because it's a plain different story09:57
mikalbauzas: true, but there are a lot of others too09:58
bauzasmikal: I count 2309:58
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bauzasmikal: as of those 23, I can see at least 5 related to the scheduler story09:59
mikalbauzas: oh, I don't deny scheduler for ironic is a thing09:59
mikalbauzas: its just there are other things too09:59
bauzasmikal: yeah agreed10:00
openstackgerritMatthew Gilliard proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel an ongoing live migration  https://review.openstack.org/17914910:00
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bauzasmikal: that still leaves more than 15 bugs for the driver10:00
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openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/nova: Replace suds test dependency with suds-jurko  https://review.openstack.org/18009010:14
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I don't remember the URL for the trivial bugs10:15
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: do you have it ?10:15
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I also don't remember if you explained it in the ML ?10:16
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I would like to do so if not10:16
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mikalbauzas: its not in the kilo mid-cycle etherpad any more I assume10:20
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bauzasmikal: yup, but IIRC johnthetubaguy created it during the last nova meeting10:21
bauzasanyway, looking at eavesdrop now10:21
mikalbauzas: I'd appreciate an email announcement as it will stop me from having to spelunk10:21
bauzasbingo https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking10:22
bauzasmikal: sure, just checked, nothing announced, will do10:22
bauzaseh, lxsli is in fire...10:22
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openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed openstack/nova: Add policy to cover snapshotting of volume backed instances  https://review.openstack.org/17680510:24
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bauzaslxsli: you just filled in all the slots for the trivial bugs :)10:27
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bauzaslxsli: so now I have to -1 some for making sure I can add some I found also :p10:28
lxslimorning bauzas :)10:28
lxslineeded something to do on Friday!10:28
bauzaslxsli: yeah, I can give you some slides to work on if you want :p10:28
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: console: clean tokens do not happen for all kind of consoles  https://review.openstack.org/17901410:29
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lxslivery kind of you10:29
lxslimy colleague is back though so I'm ok for now ;)10:30
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bauzaslxsli: :)10:31
bauzaslxsli: eh, you'll be in the audience10:32
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: Fix import order  https://review.openstack.org/18009710:35
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dims_bauzas: yay, new czar for trivial list! :)10:36
bauzasdims_: ssssssht10:36
bauzasdims_: I was just seeing a miss and fixing it :)10:37
dims_:)10:37
bauzasdims_: and we had the French revolution war, so czars are not in safe place here y'know10:38
dims_haha10:38
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use common code for supported architecture  https://review.openstack.org/18010110:41
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use common code for supported architecture  https://review.openstack.org/18010110:46
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: verify vCenter server certificate  https://review.openstack.org/17972810:57
swamireddyhi10:58
swamireddyIs ´volume forec detach´ supported?10:59
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: ensure only one log writer is spawned per VM  https://review.openstack.org/18011111:38
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: restart serial console workers after instance power change  https://review.openstack.org/16308011:42
BobBallIs there a way to get nova client to track all API requests that match a certain filter?  Apparently I'm using a huge number of calls to /servers - more than the number of servers I create should imply... and I'm trying to understand why :)11:42
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: restart serial console workers after instance power change  https://review.openstack.org/16308012:06
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: console: clean tokens do not happen for all kind of consoles  https://review.openstack.org/17901412:15
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: console: clean tokens do not happen for all kind of consoles  https://review.openstack.org/17901412:16
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haypodims_, hi. dhellmann just reminded me that it was your plan to replace suds with suds-jurko, so you may take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180087/ (oslo.vmware) & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180090/ (nova)12:22
openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cleanup 'scheduled_at' from instances table  https://review.openstack.org/18012012:22
dims_haypo: yep12:22
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haypodims_, suds really look to be dead, last release in 2010 :-(12:24
dims_haypo: yep12:26
haypodims_, he sent an email to jurko and he replied, but i'm now unable to find his reply!? he wrote that he may work again on this project for a customer, or something like that12:27
dims_haypo: very cool12:27
dims_haypo: did you see a couple of notes from my experiment?12:27
haypodims_, nope12:27
dims_one sec12:27
haypodims_, oh, do you mean the python3 WIP patch?12:27
dims_y12:28
dims_1. I'd like to see a patch series so others can contribute12:28
dims_2. I'd like to see us get quickly (shortest length of patch series) that will get us to the white list of unit tests and the check job.12:28
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dims_i found that nova cores like patch series12:29
dims_and quicker we get to a white list we can prove that what are are changing still continues to work and future checkins don't break them12:29
dims_haypo: ^^12:30
haypodims_, i submited my patches as independent patches, it's convinient to not have to push a a patch serie just to update one patch12:30
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haypodims_, i merged them all in a local branch, i only got one simple conflict12:30
haypodims_, i agree for the whitelist, it's part of the plan of my spec ;)12:30
dims_cool, sounds good12:31
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haypodims_, i reviewed manually my patches on gerrit, but it's boring, it's always the same change done in N files (usually N > 20), except of specific changes mentionned in the commit message as "manual changes"12:31
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haypodims_, matt dietz understood the purpose of generated change, he just voted +2 for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179784/ "Replace dict.iteritems() with six.iteritems(dict)" ;-)12:32
dims_yay!12:32
openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed openstack/nova: Add policy to cover snapshotting of volume backed instances  https://review.openstack.org/17680512:32
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/nova: Optimize validate_networks  https://review.openstack.org/17574212:40
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Remove orphaned tables - iscsi_targets, volumes  https://review.openstack.org/16621412:48
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Remove orphaned tables - iscsi_targets, volumes  https://review.openstack.org/16621412:48
openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/nova: Replace MySQL-python test req. with mysqlclient  https://review.openstack.org/18012812:48
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dimsgaryk: something wrong with the VMware NSX CI?12:52
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garykdims: yeah, we have a few hiccups at the moment12:53
dimsgaryk: ack, thanks12:53
garykdims: will hopefully up and running in a few hours12:53
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dimsthanks garyk12:56
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bauzassdague: quick question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166214/ if we want to add info for release notes, wouldn't it be another tag than DocImpact ?12:57
bauzassdague: just trying to remember which one, but that will come12:58
bauzassdague: bingo, UpgradeImpact12:58
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove redundant migration tests  https://review.openstack.org/18013412:59
sdaguebauzas: maybe, it's not really an upgrade impact12:59
sdaguethere should just be a footnote that it was remove12:59
sdagueremoved12:59
bauzassdague: but DocImpact is for creating a related bugfile for the docs people right?12:59
bauzassdague: I said that because I left +1 for that change, and I need to understand your disagreement :)13:00
bauzassdague: okay I see13:00
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openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed openstack/nova: Create a reserved aggregate filter  https://review.openstack.org/17875013:01
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garyksdague: can you please look at https://review.openstack.org/180097 - we missed this yesterday13:14
garykis danpb on irc? or mia?13:15
sdaguedanpb has not been on irc since ... jan?13:15
garykok, thanks13:16
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kashyapgaryk: As near as I know, he was mia last month. But lately I see that (from mailing lists) that he's working on QEMU for TLS which he noted in some of the Nova reviews - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171098/1/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py -- "Separately I'm spending the next few months working on QEMU itself to add native support for encryption in migration & NBD which will solve this problem onc13:20
kashyape & for all without the need to tunnel anything." (13APR)13:20
garykkashyap: ok, thanks.13:21
kashyapgaryk: Also, he's reviewed a few cleanups I've posted which you've reviewed too and a quite a few of others, so says Gerrit :-)13:22
kashyapNp.13:22
garyk:)13:22
openstackgerritChris St. Pierre proposed openstack/nova: Allow blacklisting os-api extensions  https://review.openstack.org/16098613:22
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garyki am trying to be for some reviews for patches which he has +2'ed in the past and they have been rebased for the nth time … oh well.13:22
sdaguegaryk: can you just respin - 175248 with the instance param added13:25
garyksdague: sure13:27
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garykis there another rackspace outage - the gate is a mare13:29
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: Cleaning up debug messages from previous change in vmops.py  https://review.openstack.org/17524813:34
garyksdague: ^13:34
sdagueno, there is a race in the gearman server, which has gummed up things13:34
garykno idea what gearman is13:35
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add support for NFS 4.1  https://review.openstack.org/17984213:38
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Remove memory validation for live migration  https://review.openstack.org/18015113:38
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sahidgaryk: I replied to you here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177222/ but perhaps you did not noticed that.13:47
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garyksahid: looking13:49
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Filter out unactive compute firstly  https://review.openstack.org/18015513:50
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garyksahid: ok. understood. its a little fubar, but ok13:53
sahid:)13:55
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: objects: remove field ListOfEnumField  https://review.openstack.org/17128714:01
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johnthetubaguybauzas: hey, sorry I was out this morning and yesterday, I guess you found it OK?14:01
johnthetubaguybauzas: the link that is14:02
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yup, just sent an email14:02
johnthetubaguybauzas: yeah, I read that, thanks14:02
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openstackgerritJorge Niedbalski R. proposed openstack/nova: detach iSCSI latest path for latest disk  https://review.openstack.org/13538214:02
openstackgerritAnthony PERARD proposed openstack/nova: libvirt-xen: Replace vda by xvda in BDM v1  https://review.openstack.org/18016114:05
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simonklbHello! Is there any way to determine the loading-order of the API extensions other than the naming alphabetically?14:11
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mriedemsimonklb: they aren't weighted14:12
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simonklbyea, so my problem is that I have an extension trying to access the scheduler hints, but the scheduler hints extension is loaded after my extension14:14
simonklbany idea how i could solve it?14:14
simonklbtwo solutions I could think of was naming my extension something that would make it loaded after the scheduler hints or extending the scheduler hints extension itself14:16
simonklbboth not very satisfactory14:16
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mriedemsimonklb: well in v2 api you'd have a separate extension A which the scheduler hints extension checks to see if A is loaded and uses it, like how the volumes extension checks to see if os-volume-attachment-update is loaded for the update operation14:17
mriedemsimonklb: but we aren't doing new extensions in v214:17
mriedemin v2.1 you'd add a microversion to the scheduler hints extension14:17
mriedemhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/api_microversions.html14:18
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dansmithI think he's asking about scheduler filters, no?14:18
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simonklbno I'm asking about the scheduler extension in the API which adds the hints to the server body-dict14:19
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dansmithoh, I see, yeah14:20
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simonklbmriedem: I'm not sure how checking that it's loaded would solve it thought, if you can't force it to load after the dependent extension14:22
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bauzassimonklb: not sure I understand, you ask where the hints are added to the filter properties ?14:23
simonklbI'm already making sure that it's loaded with the extension manager is_loaded(), but it's the fact that the scheduler hints extension is executed after my extension that is the problem14:23
mriedemsimonklb: well you're still only talking v214:23
simonklbbauzas: no I'm trying to access the scheduler hints in my own API extension (which extends the server controller's create function)14:24
bauzassimonklb: but hints are not provided by an API extension...14:25
dansmithsimonklb: I don't *think* we normally have one API extension that depends on something another extension has already done14:25
bauzassimonklb: let me give you links14:25
simonklbbauzas: nova/api/openstack/compute/contrib/scheduler_hints.py14:25
dansmithbauzas: I think he's saying he's using the request object that has been built up by previous extensions and wants to look at what they've already parsed14:25
bauzassimonklb: oh that14:26
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bauzassimonklb: so you need to check that in your own extension right ?14:26
bauzassimonklb: that's not possible, since it's a layer violation IMGO14:26
bauzasIMHO even14:26
simonklbdansmith: that was what I was thinking as well, it might be that I'm thinking about this the wrong way... But say that you wanted to extend the scheduler hints with more scheduler hints, how would you go about doing that if not by another API extension?14:26
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dansmithsimonklb: depends if you're talking about v2 or v2.1 I think14:28
bauzassimonklb: the hints are just something abstract for the API14:28
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bauzasdansmith: IIRC, there is also another WSGI extension for V2.114:30
bauzasfor taking hints and providing them as create kwargs14:30
simonklbdansmith: I'm working with v2 as of now, but would probably move on to the latest version as it progresses14:30
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simonklbbauzas: I'm not sure what you mean by it's just something abstract, I'm using the scheduler hints to tell the scheduler how it should filter and weight, yea?14:31
dansmithsimonklb: the v2 extensions aren't completely modular like you probably expect14:31
bauzassimonklb: right, but that goes straight to the conductor14:32
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dansmithsimonklb: when we add something like that, we modify the original extension, and only enable the new behavior if the new extension is enabled14:32
bauzassimonklb: which calls the scheduler by adding the hints14:32
dansmithsimonklb: basically, the new extension is just a placeholder for enabling/detecting the new functionality14:32
dansmithsimonklb: in almost all cases, however, the actual code for it lives in the original spot14:32
bauzassimonklb: ie. API extension -> compute.api -> conductor -> scheduler14:32
dansmithsimonklb: adding a new different thing is easily done modularly, but not really a modification like this14:33
bauzassimonklb: the thing is, you don't read the hints in the extensions14:33
bauzassimonklb: just because it would create a dependency between extensiosn14:34
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simonklbdansmith: bauzas: right, I'm following you, but in this case it's not really a part of the original extension, but rather a validation of the API call where some hints are not supported with the functionality I'm implementing14:34
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simonklbwould it be better to make that check inside some other component perhaps?14:35
simonklbI was thinking it would be best to stop the user "at the gate" rather than letting the call pass through14:35
bauzassimonklb: that's not a validation14:35
bauzassimonklb: what do you want to gate with the hints ?14:35
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bauzashints are just placeholders for an information that the scheduler reads14:36
dansmithsimonklb: not sure that we really validate hints that way right now14:36
dansmithsimonklb: if they're malformed or contradictory, we just ignore them or let them cause a failure to schedule, right?14:37
bauzas+114:37
dansmithsimonklb: but even still, I think you'd do that validation in the existing extension, not a new one14:37
bauzasdansmith: ^14:37
simonklbwithout going into much details, the affinity with groups is not going to work as intended with what I'm implementing14:37
bauzaswe don't validate hints now, just because the semantics are only known by the filter it refers14:38
simonklbSo I would just like to raise an error right away if it's used14:38
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simonklbright, so you think it would be better to raise the error inside the scheduler filters instead then perhaps?14:38
bauzassimonklb: well, I don't have a clear picture, but that's only the filter using a specific hint that knows if it's correct14:39
bauzassimonklb: like dansmith said, if 2 hints are conflicting - just because the keywords are identical for example - then the error will happen on the filter14:39
dansmithsimonklb: what validation are you going to do on affinity at the API layer?14:39
simonklbSo I'm going to use a technology where grouping multiple instances on the same server is not going to make sense, so I want to make sure that is not an option to the user14:39
dansmithsimonklb: since the placement hasn't happened, I'm not sure what you can do there14:40
dansmithyou just want to disable affinity altogether?14:40
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simonklbYes14:40
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simonklbanti-affinity is fine, but not affinity14:40
bauzassimonklb: not sure I understand your problem, but maybe disabling the ServerGroupAffinityFilter is helping you ?14:41
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bauzassimonklb: if you're only considering anti-affinity?14:41
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dansmithhe wants the request to fail14:42
dansmithwhich just isn't really how hints are supposed to act14:43
dansmiththey're hints14:43
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sudiptobauzas, Thanks for your help, was able to get the spec up.14:43
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simonklbdansmith: sure they are hints, but they impact the placement, so I need a way to either make the request fail, like you said, or simply disable the functionality in the code14:44
dansmithwell,14:45
simonklbbut I'd rather not mess around with the core-code14:45
dansmithif you want to disable it, you write a scheduler filter that checks the hint and fails if it's specified, right?14:45
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simonklbthat is something I haven't considered :)14:45
simonklblike a filter to disable another filter?14:46
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bauzasdansmith: simonklb: oh I see, you want to deny a request explicitely using the affinity hint ?14:46
simonklbyes, that was my initial thought14:46
dansmithsimonklb: if you disable the affinity filter, it just won't honor the affinity request14:47
bauzassimonklb: why not just silently not taking it in account ?14:47
bauzassimonklb: hence my disabling of the filter14:47
dansmithsimonklb: if you want to specifically fail hard if they provide it, then you need a filter to detect the presence of the hint and fail14:47
bauzasdansmith beated me14:47
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simonklbyea it sounds like a good solution to me14:47
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bauzassimonklb: which one ? :)14:48
simonklbwell both would solve the problem, but just letting it pass by silently might confuse the user, so I think I'm going with the "fail-filter" :)14:49
bauzassimonklb: oh I see your point14:50
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dansmithsimonklb: sounds like maybe you need forced anti-affinity too14:50
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bauzassimonklb: you mean that as an operator, you want to provide a feedback loop to the user explaining what is not possible with your specific deployment ?14:51
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bauzassince the user doesn't know which filters are alive14:51
simonklbdansmith: yea, that is taken care of since my scheduler schedules pairs of hosts, rather than single hosts14:51
bauzasso he doesn't know if a specific hint would work or not14:51
dansmithokay14:52
simonklbbauzas: yea, I guess the only problem with it would that it would say like "no hosts available" as the reason right?14:53
dansmithright14:53
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dansmithwell, no14:53
dansmithif you just disable it14:53
dansmiththen it will schedule normally and just not honor the hint14:53
* bauzas will leave dansmith type for him :)14:54
dansmithleaving it enabled and then requiring a pair would probably end up with the no-hosts all the time14:54
dansmithbecause they're requesting a set of hosts with nothing in the intersection14:54
simonklbyea, but I don't think just skipping the hint is the best way either since then the user might assume that it's working as intended14:54
dansmithright14:54
dansmithI mean,14:54
bauzassimonklb: the main problem is that if you hard-check the hints, you will just return False14:55
dansmiththey're supposed to be hints such that they're not really things you can rely on I think, so that expectation of the user would be wrong14:55
bauzassimonklb: so the user will only get "Sorry, no valid host !" without explicitely knowing the reason14:55
dansmithbut if you're worried about *your* users then you could optimize14:55
simonklbreally? I thought it was a little bit more ensuring than that14:56
bauzassimonklb: I just think it's worse to fail a boot request for an unknown reason than accept to boot without exactly knowing why it succeeded IMHO14:56
simonklbIt would be an unknown reason if I gave it the reason14:56
bauzassimonklb: yup, scheduler doesn't tell back to the conductor *why* it failed14:57
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simonklbyea, so that's really the only problem I have right now14:57
simonklbusing a filter to fail the placement when trying to use affinity would be ok, but the only reason given to the conductor would be "no available hosts"14:57
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bauzassimonklb: I would just suggest you to write a specific internal documentation providing which filters are accepted and then only disable the filters you don't want14:58
simonklband that wouldn't really tell the whole story14:58
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simonklbYea, I'm just worried people will not follow the documentation... ;)14:58
bauzassimonklb: just expose which filters you're running so your users know about that14:58
bauzassimonklb: eh, that's the same for API extensions right ?14:58
simonklbConfiguring everything correctly would solve most of the issues, but users arent reliable..14:58
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bauzassimonklb: users could want to use a specific endpoint which is not available in your cloud, or whose policy should only accept admin14:59
simonklbWell, the users would have the extension enabled as default if they used the rest of the code14:59
bauzassimonklb: by some extent, you need to tell your users what is accepted within your cloud14:59
simonklbyea the human factor is always a problem, that's why I'd like to eliminate it as much as possible with automatic checks15:00
bauzassimonklb: but as I explained, the current state doesn't allow you to explain why it sucks15:01
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bauzassimonklb: of course, *you* are knowing why it failed (thanks of logs)15:01
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simonklbYea, I think that filter logs should have to do15:02
simonklbquick last question if I haven't tired you enough already :) is there any quick way of disabling volume booting as well?15:03
alaskithere's a policy you can set 'compute:create:attach_volume' or something like that15:04
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: Fix rebuild of an instance with a volume attached  https://review.openstack.org/17689115:04
edleafebauzas: are we having the scheduler meeting?15:05
bauzasoh man15:05
simonklbalaski: if I'm not mistaken you can both create an instance with an attached volume but you can also boot from a volume, which is different, correct?15:05
alaskisimonklb: though that policy is poorly named, I think it prevents bfv15:05
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simonklbalaski: right, thanks!15:06
alaskiI'm not sure we distinguish between those two cases in policy15:06
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simonklboh, so it will disable both normal attaching and booting?15:07
bauzasnova scheduler meeting now in #openstack-meeting15:07
alaskiI think it might, but I'm not 100% sure15:07
alaskisimonklb: attaching on create, not after it's booted15:07
simonklbyea, I'll continue the digging! thanks a lot for the help everyone15:08
dansmithalaski: is that just because that policy is checked on some lower layer though?15:09
dansmithalaski: like, we're removing those, so is there a chance that will stop being an effective hack/15:09
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Drop compute RPC 3.x support  https://review.openstack.org/17995115:10
alaskidansmith: I'm not sure there's going to be a behavior change with that move15:11
alaskiI mean, I don't think there's a hack here.  I think we have a poorly named policy, and not enough granularity15:11
dansmithalaski: there is a move to check policy only at the api layer and not in the lower layers, right?15:12
dansmithpresumably that policy change makes it work because the internal BFV code calls the attach logic and trips the policy there right?15:12
alaskidansmith: right.  this is in the compute api and would move up one layer15:12
alaskiahh, no.  this is caught up front currently15:13
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dansmithalaski: explicitly a the api layer knowing an attach will come later?15:13
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alaskidansmith: right.  it says "did you pass in volume info?  if yes then let me check policy before even creating an isntance object"15:14
dansmithah, okay cool15:14
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jichensdague: hi, got a minute on quick question for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173985/ ?15:16
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sdaguejichen: yep15:17
jichensdague: I don't think a microversion is needed becaues https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/APIChangeGuidelines says it's ok to do so15:19
jichensdague: if we are fine to change error code , we can avoid microversion, thoughts?15:19
sdaguejichen: I think gilliard_afk or jaypipes need to be looped in on this15:19
sdaguemicroversions are cheap15:20
jichensdague: um... I agree it's cheap but seems this will request every change to API with a microversion15:20
sdaguejichen: that was kind of the point15:20
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dansmithsdague: they're cheap, but they do pollute to code a little, so not doing them when appropriate is a gain15:21
jichensdague: let me ping gilliard_afk or jaypipes in case they have more thoughts ,15:21
dansmithsdague: i.e. if ver < X: do_buggy_thing()15:21
dansmithsdague: not sure what the case is here, I haven't looked15:21
dansmithsounds like returning 4xx instead of 5xx?15:21
jichendansmith: yes15:22
sdagueno, it's adding a new 4xx code15:22
sdaguefor a call to mean something else15:22
sdagueI agree fixing a 500 isn't a microversion15:22
dansmithwasn't it returning 500 on OverQuota before?15:23
dansmithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/173985/3/nova/api/openstack/compute/contrib/volumes.py,cm15:23
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sdagueoh, it is15:23
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/173985/3/nova/api/openstack/compute/plugins/v3/volumes.py,cm - L 134 is the reason this seems like a microversion to me15:24
sdaguebecause that was never an expected client side error for this call before15:24
dansmithwell,15:24
dansmithit might be expected but never delivered :)15:24
johnthetubaguyso quick question15:24
dansmithpersonally, I think this is okay to do without15:24
sdaguebut, anyway, I'll defer to jay on something like this. We do probably need some clearer specs around this stuff15:25
dansmitha microversion15:25
johnthetubaguyso what do we do for old version?15:25
johnthetubaguyold version should probably not return 50015:25
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: I assumed 40015:25
sdagueit was something in the docs as "can return this"15:25
sdagueand in the code if people expected it15:25
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: well, that's one reason I don't want to make this a microversion, because as I said above, we'd have to emulate the 5xx for older versions, IMHO15:25
johnthetubaguysdague: yeah, its just if we change all version, then its a very weak reason to bump the version15:26
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dansmithsdague: is that because the presence of that decorator makes docs that list the things that can be returned?15:26
johnthetubaguydansmith: right, the bump kinda implies we keep doing 500 for old ones, which is wrong15:26
sdagueok, so I guess the issue is that it's really 2 changes15:26
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: right15:26
sdague1 is "stop failing"15:26
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dansmithsdague: you want 400 if old, 403 if new?15:26
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sdague2 is "report this new kind of information for specific exceptions"15:26
sdaguethat seems consistent15:26
johnthetubaguythat could work15:27
dansmithit makes the code a disaster for something that really shouldn't need it, IMHO15:27
johnthetubaguydansmith: right the cost of keeping that if statement for ever sounds terrible15:27
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johnthetubaguyalthough, its possible the most correct thing to do15:28
dansmithI think we have to think about what a client would do here15:28
johnthetubaguydansmith: it wouldn't care right, in general?15:28
dansmithlike, are they going to do anything different if they get a 403 vs a 400?15:28
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johnthetubaguythey could, I guess15:28
dansmiththey are expecting 400 is possible, but if they get a 403, what will they do?15:28
sdagueif the answer is "no" then we shouldn't use 2 codes15:28
dansmithand will they do anything differently if they get 403 instead of the 500 they get now?15:29
johnthetubaguyso 403 and 500 are both unexpected to old clients, there for the same?15:29
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dansmithsdague: well, if they are depending on the 500 now, then we're using two codes already15:29
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: that's what I'm thinking15:29
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sdague500 isn't a code that is used, it's "everything broke"15:30
dansmithsure,15:30
dansmithwhich is why I don't think 403 is any different if they get that and aren't expecting it15:30
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sdagueso... given the various POV here, maybe this discussion should get into the nova track?15:30
dansmithsdague: I get that you're being pedantic and that's probably safest wrt APIs, but I do think we have to consider some things like this as maybe not worthwhile15:31
dansmithwell, we have some api slots, right?15:31
dansmithwe could just add this to the list of things to discuss15:31
dansmithmaybe with operator feedback about what they care about and not15:31
johnthetubaguyyeah, I think its part of the "when to bump the API microversion discussion" we have scheduled15:31
dansmithcool15:32
johnthetubaguythere is a dev ref review of this already I think15:32
sdaguesure, though it's mostly not operators that care, it's going to be the end users trying to write applications15:32
dansmithsdague: well, they know more about what their users value than sometimes we do I think15:32
johnthetubaguyand devananda forwarded some related work ironic has done on microversions which might help15:32
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dansmithsdague: based on RAX feedback we got about v2, etc15:32
dansmithbut yeah15:32
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johnthetubaguywe (rackspace) do have a developer experience group, I should try get them along to these API sessions15:33
sdaguebecause, it's not like we argue about it for rpc versions :)15:33
sdaguenah, that's not worth a version bumb in rpc15:33
johnthetubaguysdague: I think its the what do we do for older clients that should be agreed here15:33
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: sure15:34
dansmithsdague: we're our only client of the rpc interface, so it's easier :)15:34
johnthetubaguysdague: we could bump just to tell folks something changed, I guess, but that seems less of a big deal15:34
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dansmithso for the time being do we go 500->400 and avoid the bump and the change15:34
dansmith?15:34
dansmithfor this specific case15:34
sdagueI'd be completely happy with that15:34
cfriesenbauzas: for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169827/8/nova/compute/manager.py  I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting in your comment.  As far as I can tell adding the call to self.network_api.setup_instance_network_on_host() does fix things for both nova-network and neutron.15:35
dansmithTBH, I'm not sure 403 is really the right response for that case anyway :)15:35
sdaguedansmith: sure, then we can discuss the 403 thing later15:35
sdaguefixing a stacktrace and fitting the response into an existing expected error code by an end point - it's a bug fix, not a bump for sure15:36
dansmithwhat I meant was,15:36
dansmith403 doesn't seem to match with "overquota" to me15:36
bauzascfriesen: my problem is that we're just adding a new call because the existing method is not doing the same behaviour depending on the backend you have, right ?15:36
sdaguedansmith: yeh, 403 does actually seem weird here15:36
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add in vnic resource limitations  https://review.openstack.org/18020215:37
dansmithmaybe 402: Payment required :)15:37
cfriesenbauzas: no, we're adding a new call because the old call isn't good enough for either nova-network *or* neutron15:37
dansmithsince it's quota :P15:37
sdagueheh15:37
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bauzascfriesen: then your comment confused me15:37
cfriesenbauzas: for nova-network we need the new call to move floatingIPs over to the new host15:37
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cfriesenbauzas: for neutron we need the new call to update the host in the neutron port binding15:37
dansmithjichen: got that ^ ?15:37
johnthetubaguydansmith: sdague: does this help if its a quota error: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/api-wg/tree/guidelines/http.rst#n4315:37
dansmithbah15:38
jichendansmith: yes, :)15:38
dansmithseems weird to me15:38
johnthetubaguydansmith: I can live with consistently weird15:38
bauzascfriesen: I understand there are 2 actions to do, based on their own backedns15:38
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: yeh, that seems kind of weird actually, 403 is really supposed to be this user doesn't have access to this endpoint15:38
sdagueand shouldn't change based on backend state15:38
sdaguethat probably needs to be revisited15:39
cfriesenbauzas: the existing call did something on nova-networks but didn't do anything for neutron.  but the old call wasn't sufficient for nova-networks15:39
sdagueanyway15:39
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bauzascfriesen: now my question is, why just not considering only one method to call, and make sure that in the network api, it does the glue ?15:39
sdaguejichen: how about you make the 500 -> 400 change15:39
dansmithsdague: right, that's my feeling15:39
sdagueand we can discuss the quota thing separately15:39
jichensdague: ok , I can do that15:39
bauzascfriesen: as I said, I don't like having that kind of "if neutron, call this, if n-net, call that"15:39
johnthetubaguysdague: dansmith: thats a good plan, thanks15:39
bauzascfriesen: that's not technically ifs15:40
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cfriesenbauzas: we're not doing that.  nova-network needs both calls.15:40
jichensdague: but seems we got some code in API, such as server_groups.py15:40
cfriesenbauzas: technically neutron only needs one call, but the other one doesn't hurt since it's just a no-op for neturon15:40
bauzascfriesen: okay I see15:40
jichensdague: they treat nova.exception.OverQuota as 40315:40
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bauzascfriesen: as I said, I think your comment is confusing me15:40
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jichensdague: maybe updated as well ?15:41
bauzascfriesen: tbh, I think the comment is even not necessary15:41
cfriesenbauzas: I was trying to follow mriedem's request to explain why the second API call is needed.15:41
bauzascfriesen: I see15:41
bauzascfriesen: bah15:42
bauzascfriesen: okay, changing my vote15:42
sdaguejichen: yeh, so that all actually predates the api-wg, it was never really discussed15:42
bauzascfriesen: just because I understand now that the problem is that it needs an extra call15:42
mriedembauzas: do_network_thing_1()   do_network_slightly_different_thing_1()  w/o a comment is confusing15:42
sdaguein looking through the history15:42
mriedembauzas: for posterity15:43
bauzasmriedem: yup, I was confused, I thought he was proposing do_sth_for_nnet(); do_sth_for_neutron()15:43
mriedemwell, that's kind of what's happening15:43
cfriesenbauzas: thanks...I'm not a networking guy but this API does seem like something that could be cleaned up15:43
mriedemb/c the network APIs are implemented differently15:43
bauzasmriedem: my point was that the API should be backend agnostic15:43
mriedemideally we'd have one network API call here that would fix this for both n-net and neutron15:44
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: devref: add information to clarify nova scope  https://review.openstack.org/17862315:44
mriedembauzas: i totally agree15:44
bauzasmriedem: that's my point15:44
bauzasmriedem: is this something hard to do ?15:44
mriedembauzas: and i believe cfriesen was working a separate patch for that for the same bug a couple of weeks ago15:44
mriedembauzas: i think the issue might have been what changing the pass in the neutron api would do to other flows calling it15:44
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cfriesenmriedem: yep...but that was before someone pointed out that nova-network floating IPs were broken on evac too15:45
cfriesenmriedem: so this is the cleanest fix, I think15:45
bauzasmriedem: cfriesen: I thought there was some planned work for the network API right ?15:45
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bauzasmriedem: cfriesen: I heard about beagles working on that right ?15:46
cfriesenbauzas: I have no idea.  not really a networking guy. :)15:46
bauzascfriesen: mriedem: I think the main problem is that this kind of comment, while helping to understand why, is just creating a precedence by explicitely mentioning the backend15:47
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mriedembauzas: so let's throw a TODO in there to consolidate and fix the network API15:47
cfriesenbauzas: mriedem: okay, should I just change the comment to be more generic and say that at this point in time this second call is actually needed, not a typo15:47
mriedemthe simple fix is backportable to stable/kilo15:47
bauzascfriesen: mriedem: so I would be in favor of a big fat comment explaining why it sucks, why it's not possible to merge both calls, and why nobody should do that again15:47
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Skip only one host weight calculation  https://review.openstack.org/13727515:47
bauzasmriedem: a TODO is fine15:48
mriedemcfriesen: i'd add a TODO or FIXME to consolidate15:48
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bauzasmriedem: agreed, I don't want to pushback a change if that's helping15:48
cfriesenmriedem: bauzas: leave what's there as-is and add a TODO?15:48
mriedembauzas: there are already ugly is_neutron checks in the compute API15:48
bauzasoh man...15:48
mriedemyeah15:48
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cfriesenokay, will respin15:49
bauzascfriesen: thanks, sorry don't want to nitpick, just mattering on how people are just copy/pasting patterns15:49
cfriesenbauzas: no worries15:49
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Use oslo-config-generator  https://review.openstack.org/18001315:49
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/nova: Fix missing format arg in compute manager  https://review.openstack.org/18020715:50
bauzasmriedem: my is_neutron check killed me15:50
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Fix typo for test cases  https://review.openstack.org/17921115:50
bauzas10 matches15:50
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Fix typo for test cases  https://review.openstack.org/17921115:51
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: devref: add information to clarify nova scope  https://review.openstack.org/17862315:51
dansmithmriedem: who is "bob hansen"?15:52
dansmithmriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178623/15:52
mriedemdansmith: never heard of him15:53
dansmithmriedem: he's having trouble merging changes automatically15:53
dansmithmriedem: and my email tells me he's from IBM15:53
mriedemz giu15:53
mriedem*guy15:54
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openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: fix network setup on evacuate  https://review.openstack.org/16982715:54
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add in vnic resource limitations  https://review.openstack.org/18020215:55
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: create commom object for instance Limits  https://review.openstack.org/17905915:55
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Resource limits for memory  https://review.openstack.org/17906015:55
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: store extra_specs object  https://review.openstack.org/17906115:55
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add resource limits for disk  https://review.openstack.org/17906215:55
mriedemdansmith: ooooo15:55
mriedemi bet he's setting up gerrit triggers15:55
mriedemfor zvm or something15:55
mriedembork15:55
mriedemdansmith: i know who to yell at15:55
dansmithsweet15:55
bauzascfriesen: so you're adding a FIXME, you're planning to unify those 2 calls eh ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169827/9/nova/compute/manager.py,cm15:55
bauzascfriesen: jinxed15:55
openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adding Python 3.4 support to Nova  https://review.openstack.org/17686815:56
cfriesenbauzas: I very carefully avoided putting my name on it.15:56
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Catch OverQuota in volume create function  https://review.openstack.org/17398515:56
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bauzascfriesen: http://static1.squarespace.com/static/518f5d62e4b075248d6a3f90/t/529265dee4b03e7a0729af8a/1385326056122/git-blame2.jpg15:57
cfriesenLOL15:57
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Proxy RBD library call into a separate thread  https://review.openstack.org/18021215:57
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Skip only one host weight calculation  https://review.openstack.org/13727515:58
bauzascfriesen: is hacking accepting a FIXME without a name ? not sure15:58
haypojohnthetubaguy, ok, i updated my python 3 spec to simply say "nova tests". is it better? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176868/10/specs/liberty/approved/adding-python34-support-to-nova.rst15:59
dansmithcfriesen: not putting your name on it is kinda uncool, IMHO15:59
cfriesenbauzas: mellanox CI is saying I need to rebase.  guess I'll do one more version15:59
dansmithcfriesen: doesn't mean you have to fix it, but at least there's a point of contact15:59
dansmithmellanox is failing on everything today15:59
dansmithincluding devref changes15:59
bauzasyup15:59
dansmithso I don't think it's legit16:00
johnthetubaguyhaypo: I think you should be passing tempest, unit and functional, if that makes sese?16:00
johnthetubaguysense^16:00
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: not that I much care, but until we're running a tempest job on py3, I think it's hard to say that it's "fully supported"16:00
bauzasdansmith: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems Mellanox needs to update it IMHO16:00
cfriesendansmith: okay, fair enough on the FIXME point of contact.  I can do that much.  Was just nervous about being expected to actually fix it.16:01
haypojohnthetubaguy, well, the goal is to ensure that *all* tests pass on python 3, so unit+functional+tempest. it doesn't help to specify each kind of test in the spec16:01
dansmithcfriesen: that's not really what it means16:01
bauzascfriesen: if that, just TODO it16:01
dansmithcfriesen: and people fix my FIXMEs all the time16:01
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bauzasI honestly wonder why all of this FIXME vs. TODO16:01
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: so... originally when we carved off functional, the point was not to run on multiple python interpreters for that test stack16:01
haypodansmith, i agree that tempest are the best tests16:01
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sdagueif we are reversing that, we probably want to rethink how we are doing the tox tags, because we're kind of defeating ourselves in the current structure16:02
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johnthetubaguysdague: hmm OK16:02
haypodansmith, it's easy to miss some obvious bugs with unit tests which mock most components :) and i'm not sure that functional tests have a coverage as good as tempest tests16:02
johnthetubaguysdague: I guess the ballooning of the tests would by crazy16:02
cfriesenbauzas: guess I should unify my launchpad ID and my IRC nick too...16:03
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johnthetubaguysdague: it just feels like py27 and py34 are different enough to be worth it, or does that seem dumb?16:03
sdaguepersonally, I'd say unit first (there is existing infrastructure) then sort out getting tempest up16:03
dansmithcfriesen: mine aren't FWIW16:03
dansmithcfriesen: because: smith16:03
bauzascfriesen: well, you're speaking at bauzas/sbauza/sylvain-bauza/bauwser16:03
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dansmithsdague: +116:03
cfriesen:)16:03
bauzasso/at/to16:03
lxslisdague: re: 137275, won't PS#11 fail if obj_list is None?16:03
johnthetubaguysdague: I think thats the plan the spec tries to say16:03
sdaguelxsli: do we expect it to be None?16:03
lxslisdague: I don't know but the old code would have handled that16:04
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johnthetubaguysdague: dansmith: I was more worried that unit is considered enough and then the work stops, and that feels bad16:04
dansmithalaski: so are you going to look at that run_instance test refactor today? If not, or not until later, I'll take a crack at some more of them in the meantime16:04
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: yeah, I requested tempest inclusion early on in my review on that16:04
openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: fix network setup on evacuate  https://review.openstack.org/16982716:05
alaskidansmith: I am.  I'm looking at it now, just multitasking a bit, and grabbing lunch in a few16:05
cfriesen^ TODO with my name16:05
dansmithalaski: okay, no problem, just didn't want to duplicate anything16:05
johnthetubaguydansmith: yeah, it seems wrong to exclude that IMHO16:05
dansmithalaski: obviously VERY appreciative of you helping :)16:05
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bauzasalaski: removing the last bits of run_instance() ? I give you bonus points too16:06
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ekhugendansmith, sorry for the random commenting from bob hansen, he's working on setting up CI and accidentally set it to report, he's turned it off now, sorry16:06
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dansmithekhugen: appreciated, thanks16:06
alaskidansmith: yep, I'll hold the lock for a bit atm16:06
dansmithekhugen: you guys know that you should be using a specific account when you're ready right?16:06
BobHHey all, an apology is in order, my jenkins setup should not have voted on the most recent patches16:06
dansmithalaski: ack :)16:06
alaskibauzas: dansmith is doing the bulk of the work, I'm just helping look at a few things16:06
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sdaguelxsli: all paths into that code that I can see have exitted early if the host list is not defined16:07
bauzasdansmith: your change is Remove Compute API v3 ?16:07
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ekhugendansmith yes, we do, we've been working with kurt taylor and the CI guys, bob has just been trying to get things to listen and he didn't think he was reporting16:07
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lxslisdague: OK, I'll change my vote16:07
dansmithokay16:07
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: yeh, until it runs full stack testing with tempest, I don't consider it done for sure16:08
dansmithsdague: +116:08
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johnthetubaguysdague: +1 on that, that was my main concern here16:11
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chhavimriedem: I want to discuss on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179697/116:13
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lxsliafter a patch has +2, are +1s still useful? ofc -1s and comments can be16:14
mriedemchhavi: ok16:14
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chhaviTo give some background,16:15
chhaviRPC API for detach volume passes the volume_id and instance as kwargs:-16:15
chhavidef detach_volume(self, ctxt, instance, volume_id):16:15
chhavi        cctxt.cast(ctxt, 'detach_volume',16:15
chhavi                   instance=instance, volume_id=volume_id)16:15
chhaviWith the changes done in _ComputeV4Proxy detach_volume16:15
chhavidef detach_volume(self, ctxt, volume_id, instance):16:15
chhavi        # NOTE(danms): Pass instance by kwarg to help the object_compat16:15
chhavi        # decorator, as real RPC dispatch does.16:15
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dansmithlxsli: of course they are16:15
chhavi        return self.manager.detach_volume(ctxt, volume_id,16:15
chhavi                                          instance=instance)16:15
chhaviWe are changing the way volume_id was passed previously from kwargs to passed as an args.16:15
mriedemchhavi: please use paste16:15
chhaviImpact16:15
chhaviIt breaks the backward compatibility with the previous releases.16:15
dansmithchhavi: please don't do that16:15
chhaviConsider if there are any decorators implemented on top of detach_volume which expects that16:15
chhavivolume_id is received in kwargs. Since RPC still passes volume_id as kwargs.16:15
mriedemchhavi: http://paste.openstack.org/16:15
chhaviWith the new changes for _ComputeV4Proxy it got broken since now volume_id is passed as an normal16:15
chhavipositional argument.16:15
chhaviI understand that we can still resolve this issue by modifying the decorator. But just wondering16:15
chhaviif there is a specific reason for changing the volume_id argument type behavior.16:15
chhaviok sorry16:15
mriedemchhavi: do you have a stacktrace to put in the bug report?16:15
bauzaslxsli: any review is valuable IMHO16:16
lxslidansmith: just checking, thanks, I feel a bit weird saying "me too" sometimes16:16
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mriedemchhavi: your commit message said that the object_compat decorator was an issue, but that doesn't check volume_id16:16
chhaviThere are no stacktrace for this issue.16:16
mriedemchhavi: do you have an out of tree decorator that is checking volume_id from kwargs?16:17
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bauzaslxsli: at least you need time for checking if you agree with the nova-core, that's just worth leaving a note16:17
chhaviyes16:17
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mriedemchhavi: then fix your decorator16:17
chhaviAre there any specific reason for changing the volume_id argument type16:18
mriedemchhavi: see the reverts_task_state decorator and how it normalizes the args into a single dict16:18
mriedemso you can get the volume_id from that16:18
mriedemchhavi: you can use safe_utils.getcallargs16:18
chhavisince the same code works with juno release16:18
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mriedemchhavi: it doesn't really matter16:18
openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: rebuild: make sure server is shut down before volumes are detached  https://review.openstack.org/17689216:19
mriedemdecorators shouldn't rely on strict args/kwargs for positions or placement, IMO, the decorator should noramlize the args into a single dict using safe_utils.getcallargs16:19
mriedemlike reverts_task_state16:19
mriedemchhavi: the _ComputeV4Proxy stuff is going away soon in liberty anyway16:19
mriedemonce dansmith stops being so lazy :P16:19
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chhaviyes i had fixed by using args instead of kwargs. but just wondering if there are any specific reason.16:20
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dansmithchhavi: these are not stable APIs so you can and should expect them to continue to change for any reason16:20
dansmithincluding "for fun"16:20
chhaviok, so we should not be hitting this issue in liberty.16:20
mriedemchhavi: not really, i believe the method calls were just copy/paste from the rpc api when it was created16:20
mriedemchhavi: well,16:20
dansmithlxsli: then don't say that, +1 and describe what you did to validate the change post +2. That looks a lot more legit, helps the next reviewer, and shows you're not just piling on :)16:21
mriedemyou can hit any issues wiht out of tree code16:21
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mriedemekhugen: BobH: thanks16:22
lxslidansmith: and if I just read the code and don't have comments? All looks good?16:22
bauzasdansmith: lxsli: I think that's all about how you work. I personnally take time to review so sometimes, when I'm ready to vote, it's already +W16:22
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dansmithlxsli: your call, just trying to help suggest how you can avoid always looking like a pile-on :)16:23
bauzasdansmith: lxsli: then I prefer to leave my +1 even if that could be consider as gamification just because I hate spending time on thingsq16:23
bauzaswasting time I mean16:23
chhaviThanks, I think once _ComputeV4Proxy goes away in liberty we will not hit the issue. So its not required to have this change now.16:23
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mriedemchhavi: well you'll still have this problem in stable/kilo16:23
mriedemchhavi: so you'll need to fix your out of tree decorator16:23
bauzasthe vote is just a visible result of the internal process you made for validating the change16:23
mriedemchhavi: but 'this broke my out of tree code' isn't justification for fixing it upstream in nova16:23
chhaviyes we had fixed the issue in the decorator.16:24
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lxslidansmith: bauzas: ah well as I get better at spotting issues my ratio of reviews with comments should go up16:25
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lxslithanks for your resposnes16:26
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chhavimriedem: Idea behind pushing into the upstream nova is to keep the prototype same as before.16:31
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mriedemchhavi: then you should do it for all methods in the compute v4 proxy, to change them all to pass as kwargs16:33
bauzaschhavi: please don't ask us to maintain internal APIs as stable :)16:33
mriedemchhavi: but anyway, you have a fix, this code is going away in liberty, so i think we're good here now16:33
chhaviok i got it. taking my bug back :)16:34
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bauzasoh man, I had zero time to give http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/policies.html#public-contractual-apis16:35
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Mark ironic credential config as secret  https://review.openstack.org/17985716:48
openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/nova: Deprecate nova ironic driver's admin_auth_token  https://review.openstack.org/17996016:48
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edleafelxsli: I hate it when I review the code, add a +1, only to find someone +2'd it in the interim17:00
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add qualifier "only for Rackspace' to agent help  https://review.openstack.org/18023417:00
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edleafelxsli: really makes it looks like piling on17:00
lxsliedleafe: or you +/-1, they put up a patchset and it gets +2 before you get back to it17:01
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: zuul has been restarted to troubleshoot an issue, gerrit events between 15:00-17:00 utc were lost and changes updated or approved during that time will need to be rechecked or have their approval votes readded to trigger testing17:04
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add qualifier "only for Rackspace' to agent help  https://review.openstack.org/18023417:15
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add qualifier "Rackspace-specific feature' to agent help  https://review.openstack.org/18023417:26
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Use oslo-config-generator  https://review.openstack.org/18001317:50
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Use oslo-config-generator instead of generate_sample.sh  https://review.openstack.org/18001318:03
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Mark ironic credential config as secret  https://review.openstack.org/17985718:13
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jogocan we turn off Mellanox CI18:14
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jogomriedem: you have the power18:15
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mriedemjogo: it's not in here https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/511,members18:16
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/511,members is for voting i think18:16
jogomriedem: ohh its non-voting18:16
mriedemi don't think we can control it from commenting18:16
mriedemwe have to tell the maintainers18:16
mriedemwho aren't around18:16
jogofuck18:16
mriedemwhoa18:16
mriedemha18:16
mriedemnow you're talking my language18:16
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jogohaha18:17
dansmiththey just turned it on a day ago18:17
jogoI don't like seeing all those merge failed messages18:17
jogoargh18:17
mriedemhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Mellanox_CI18:17
dansmithyeah, someone else was going to rebase because of it, for no reason18:17
jogodid it ever work?18:17
dansmithjogo: this is our first interaction with it I think18:18
jogo Ijust did taht18:18
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jogodid anyone email the contact?18:18
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mriedemLenny Verkhovsky <openstack_ci@mellanox.com>18:19
mriedemnot me18:19
jogoahh anita is working on it in infra18:19
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openstackgerritVilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova-specs: Replace service groups with the tooz groups  https://review.openstack.org/13860718:22
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cfriesenI keep seeing this tooz stuff...anyone know what it's using for tracking health?18:26
* cfriesen should probably just go read the code18:26
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dansmithcfriesen: zookeeper18:27
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Use oslo-config-generator instead of generate_sample.sh  https://review.openstack.org/18001318:29
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anteayajogo: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/third-party-announce/2015-May/000176.html18:36
anteayajogo: the person who I talk to the most is lennyb18:36
anteayajogo: let me know if you need anything from me and what comes from the conversation18:36
dansmithanteaya: yeah was looking for him or moshele here today18:36
dansmithbut haven't seem them yet18:36
anteayadansmith: yes I dont' know moshele as well but I tried to ping before disabling18:37
anteayaso thanks18:37
anteayasomeone will probably show up now18:37
dansmithmoshele was in here yesterday asking for the goahead I think18:37
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dansmithoh, you disabled?18:37
dansmithcool18:37
anteayayes, it was yesterday18:37
openstackgerritJosh Gachnang proposed openstack/nova: Reschedules sometimes do not allocate networks  https://review.openstack.org/17747018:37
dansmithit amazes me that people turn on a system like this and them walk away18:38
anteayayes18:38
dansmithI'd be watching it like a hawk for a week18:38
anteayalennyb shows up to meetings with me18:38
anteayaI would have expected the same18:38
anteayasigh18:38
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dimsmriedem: lots of zed on nova jobs in zuul?18:54
dimss/zed/red/18:54
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dansmithdims: things are clearly unhappy18:54
dansmith661 in the check queue means sadness :)18:54
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dimsyep :(18:55
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mriedemidk18:56
mriedemi'm putting out 10 other fires internally18:56
mriedempbr is not my friend today18:57
dimsy saw the pbr discussion18:57
dimsha18:57
mriedemb/c apparently i'm the closest person in this company that even remotely knows that pbr is even a thing that exists18:57
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mriedemsdague: my gdi meter could be through the roof today18:58
dansmithmriedem: you're a rarity there for a lot of reasons :)18:58
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openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Don't raise exception on resize of 0 disk  https://review.openstack.org/17317018:58
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_gryfdansmith, hi, I have a question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16983619:00
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cfriesenso are the zuul CI issues due to pbr?  (might have missed an earlier discussion)19:01
dansmith_gryf: okay19:01
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_gryfhow exactly should be rest calls presented in BPs?19:01
lifelesscfriesen: no19:01
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lifelesscfriesen: ibm's been running pbr 0.6 for ages, and has some tech debt around version numbers19:01
dansmith_gryf: well, answer my questions in the review and then I can suggest something I think19:02
lifelesscfriesen: which came to a head when 0.11 says 'oh yeah, what was a warning is now a mandate because pip 6 has forced our hand'19:02
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dansmith_gryf: but you can read other specs to see how they've been done in the past. I'm not sure what the convention, is, but also what you have is confusing19:02
_gryfdansmith, since what is there already is how he calls are presented in the documentation19:02
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cfriesenlifeless: so what's going on with zuul?  I just got back this for instance:  http://logs.openstack.org/27/169827/10/check/gate-nova-pep8/ea03b07/console.html19:03
dansmith_gryf: I've not seen any documentation that presents two blobs of json with no annotation :)19:03
mriedemcfriesen: remember the steps yesterday?19:03
lifelesscfriesen: looking19:04
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cfriesenmriedem: right. :)19:04
lifelesscfriesen: ERROR: InvocationError: '/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-nova-pep8/.tox/pep8/bin/flake8'19:04
_gryfdansmith, ok. I'm going to dig deeper looking for examples in nova-specs :)19:04
dansmith_gryf: okay, but really, if you'll answer my questions I can make actual suggestions19:05
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lifelesscfriesen: the lack of output from flake8 is disturbing ;)19:06
_gryfdansmith, :)19:06
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cfriesenlifeless: no kidding.  I see 30 hits over the past week.19:07
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mriedemlifeless: cfriesen: might be easier to see why devstack failed19:07
mriedemhttp://logs.openstack.org/27/169827/10/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/506c93a/19:07
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mriedemhttp://logs.openstack.org/27/169827/10/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/506c93a/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-05-05_17_19_53_23219:08
_gryfdansmith, I will, since I'm going to provide the implementation :)19:08
mriedemhttp://logs.openstack.org/27/169827/10/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/506c93a/logs/screen-s-object.txt.gz19:08
mriedembingo19:08
lifelessERROR: openstack 500 Internal Server Error: Failed to upload image 363bb9a6-090a-4049-bc33-ee97128eb33e (HTTP 500)19:09
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mriedemIOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/xattr/__pycache__/_cffi__x282d9483x6ee6f75.c'19:09
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lifelesswin19:09
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lifelessHave I mentioned I really am unhappy with the packaging story around cffi today :/19:09
mriedemdims: cfriesen: is there a bug for this yet19:10
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cfriesenmriedem: don't see mention of cffi in elastic-recheck19:10
dimsmriedem: not that i know of19:11
cfriesenmriedem: would that explain the pep8 failure too?19:12
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mriedemcfriesen: maybe19:12
mriedemif there is a bad xattr/cffi in the venv?19:12
mriedemnot sure though honestly19:12
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mriedemi don't see any new releases of those packages today19:12
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mriedemlogstash isn't finding much...19:14
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mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/215cd551df8be066edafd2a1e16d0bd143ec214b19:15
mriedemhmm19:15
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lifelessdid that just merge?19:16
mriedemyesterday https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/51565ab2fd7a5390bf95f389abca70e8ab8b108919:16
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lifelessso, theory: xattr was bust this whole time and now we try to use it boom19:17
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lifelessin some context19:17
lifeless(obviously not all nodes, since it merged)19:17
bauzasscrolling back, sounds like our check pipeline is wedged, right ?19:17
mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/145199219:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1451992 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "swift-object-server fails to start in devstack which kills the gate" [Undecided,New]19:18
mriedemmestery: ^ bring that up later :)19:18
mesterymriedem: :)19:18
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bauzasmriedem: thanks19:19
mriedemhere we go http://goo.gl/JT0nm819:19
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lifelessoh excellent http://morepypy.blogspot.ch/2015/05/cffi-10-beta-1.html19:21
mriedemrevert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180276/19:21
lifelesswon't helptoday,but soon19:21
sdaguemriedem: we're hitting critical gdi levels....19:21
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mriedemi don't know if she'll hold cap'n19:21
andrewbogottI’m running nova-network with flatdhcp.  In another channel someone just suggested that routing from instances to floating IPs was fixed in some recent version with a default off config setting…19:22
andrewbogottDoes that ring a bell with anyone?  I would love to get that working.19:22
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mriedeme-r patch coming19:23
andrewbogott(Alternatively, telling me where the few remaining openstack-network people hang out would be useful :)  )19:23
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jogoandrewbogott: thanks19:27
jogoanteaya: thanks *19:27
anteayajogo: welcome19:28
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jogomriedem sdague: two steps forward, one step backwards19:29
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openstackgerritChhavi Agarwal proposed openstack/nova: Incorrect argument order passed to swap_volume  https://review.openstack.org/18027919:31
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chhavimriedem:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180279/119:36
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mriedemdansmith: ^19:38
dansmithchhavi: that one is legit19:38
dansmithmriedem: way ahead of you19:38
dansmithdamn19:38
mriedemhaha19:38
mriedemyeah right!19:38
dansmithI'll backport19:38
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mriedemjust tagged the bug19:38
dansmiththanks19:38
dansmithchhavi: mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/18028719:40
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dansmithobviously that needs to suck less somehow19:40
dansmithanteaya: mellanox is still commenting, but I guess we're waiting for the token to timeout?19:40
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anteayayes unfortunately19:41
openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve performance of UnShelve API  https://review.openstack.org/13538719:41
anteayawe have a new gerrit feature close connection that will address disabled accounts with open connections in future19:41
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dansmithit's failing impressively fast19:41
anteaya:(19:41
dansmithcool19:41
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chhavidansmith: its the same change which i did in the change-id i just sent for review 18027919:42
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dansmithchhavi: that's the backport for stable/kilo19:42
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alaskidansmith: got all the tests passing19:44
dansmithalaski: nfw19:44
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dansmithalaski: I would accuse you of bragging, but you deserve it19:45
alaskiI split out one change, and only slightly modified the remaining failing tests19:45
dansmithokay19:45
alaskigit review is chugging along atm19:45
dansmithalaski: I owe you the alcoholic beverage of your choice*19:45
dansmith* subject to availability, some restrictions apply, not valid in all states19:45
alaskionly available in continental US?19:46
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cfriesenalaski: good luck getting it past the CI today. :)19:46
dansmithalaski: only available in the vicinity of Portland, OR19:46
jrollidk, should be valid in vancouver too19:46
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Refactor tests that use compute's deprecated run_instance() method  https://review.openstack.org/17995019:46
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Switch to _set_instance_obj_error_state in build_and_run_instance  https://review.openstack.org/18029119:46
alaskidansmith: heh.  I will get back out that way19:47
dansmithalaski: you're coming through PDX?19:47
jrolldansmith: I'll be in portland after the summit, I'll take alaski's drink on his behalf19:47
alaskidansmith: no, but eventually ...19:47
jrolland pass it along one day soon(tm)19:47
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alaskijroll: awefully kind of you19:47
melwittI reviewed this patch for the swap_volume thing some days ago, I'm sorry I didn't bring it up in the channel. I put it on the kilo quick bug list but should have mentioned :(  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174307/19:47
dansmithjroll: for fun?19:47
jrolldansmith: indeed, fri-mon19:48
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dansmithmelwitt: bah19:48
dansmithjroll: ah, well, I won't be back until weds of the following week19:48
jrollheh19:48
jrolldang19:48
dansmithtoo bad,19:49
dansmithalaski can attest, I throw *wild* parties19:49
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alaskidansmith: hah.  They at least have amazing views19:49
dansmithand you have to fight your other party-goers for food19:50
jrollyou don't have clark b bring copious amounts of meat?19:50
dansmithclarkb has been invited19:51
dansmithbut he avoids me whenever possible19:51
mriedemmelwitt: we can probably abandon that now19:51
mriedemin favor of the other one which was approved19:51
jrollheh19:51
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cfriesenmriedem: a bit unfortunate for the guy who proposed the fix almost three weeks ago.19:52
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mriedemcfriesen: he should have spoken up i guess19:53
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dansmithyeah19:53
dansmithtagged the bug, etc19:53
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melwittcfriesen: I feel responsible, I should have raised it on his behalf. lesson learned19:56
dansmithalaski: "tersely named" -- nice19:56
dansmithalaski: I was cursing that name yesterday, making all those edits19:56
alaskidansmith: I hate it, but you can blame me for that one19:57
dansmithalaski: it's fine19:57
dansmithyesterday, it was not fine19:57
dansmithbut now it's fine :)19:57
dansmithalaski:   py27: commands succeeded19:57
dansmithyou rock19:57
alaskiawesome19:57
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bauzasfyi, I'm just running over the exisiting new bugs and trying to see if they are low-hanging-fruits19:59
bauzashelp welcome :)19:59
bauzas5 mins per bug, 6 done, 21 left yeah20:00
bauzasall of that is related to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Training20:00
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dansmithalaski: you should -2 for that then right?20:12
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alaskidansmith: I need to queue up a string of reviews and submit them all at once :)20:13
dansmithalaski: hehe20:13
alaskidansmith: but I don't think it needs to be sticky, changing it to be xenserver specific would work20:13
dansmithalaski: I don't think we need to tag things as xen-specific20:14
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dansmithwe have lots of stuff that's xen or libvirt specific (for better or worse)20:14
alaskitrue, I would probably -1 that too :)20:14
dansmithI totally didn't put together that this was *that* agent20:14
dansmithI figured this was something auth-related for some reason20:14
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bauzasah mriedem is not there and I need an answer for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1442006 :)20:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1442006 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "failed to reach SHELVED_OFFLOADED status within the required time" [Undecided,New]20:15
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alaskidansmith: yeah, I think that hook is still around somewhere.  And that could certainly be marked as Rackspace specific since we seem to be the only ones using it20:16
dansmithyeah20:16
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dansmithso, unsurprisingly, when I remove object_compat from manager methods, a hundred unit tests break that have been passing dicts20:26
dansmithsigh20:26
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openstackgerritJosh Gachnang proposed openstack/nova: Reschedules sometimes do not allocate networks  https://review.openstack.org/17747020:50
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haypohi. i sent many patches today and i got many failures. many devstack check jobs failed on "openstack image create" with a swiftclient error21:18
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haypoare these failures known? i'm checking http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/ -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1408814 looks unrelated21:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1408814 in Glance "Image could not be found after upload. The image may have been deleted during the upload." [Medium,Confirmed]21:20
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dansmithhaypo: yes21:21
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melwitthaypo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/145199221:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1451992 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "swift-object-server fails to start in devstack which kills the gate" [Undecided,New]21:22
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bauzasmriedem told the e-r change is coming21:22
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haypooh, i was surprised that screen-s-object.txt.gz only contained a traceback. i didn't understand that swift failed to start21:24
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cfriesenanyone got a better handle on that swift issue yet?  someone posted on the bug report that it's probably not the xattr commit.21:27
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dansmithcfriesen: people in -infra and -qa have been going at it all day21:29
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cfriesendansmith: ah, okay.  was just looking at the bug report.21:30
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bauzassince we have *lots* of bugs related to the migrations not calling the scheduler, could some specs cores look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179224/ ?21:46
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bauzasdansmith: alaski: ^21:47
bauzas(sorry folks, you were the first in my list)21:47
* dansmith is in compute rpc refactor hell21:47
bauzasdansmith: eh, lemme know if you need help21:48
dansmithbauzas: willing to shoot me in the head?21:48
bauzasdansmith: mmm, we made a revolution war 200yrs ago, we prefer the guillotine21:48
dansmithoh you french and your aversion to guns :)21:49
alaskidansmith: since you refuse to clone there's no HA so that's not an option21:49
dansmithalaski: this is actually quite true, so +121:49
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dansmithI actually saw no guillotines when I was in .fr that I recall21:53
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bauzasdansmith: eh :)22:00
bauzasdansmith: guillotines are not so handy to carry in22:01
dansmithhaha22:01
dansmithyeah, handheld guillotines.. there's a market opportunity22:01
bauzasfor cutting saucisson, yeah22:01
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flwang1mriedem: ping22:09
mriedemflwang: i'm presenting at a meetup in about a half hour22:09
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mikalSo, there's a lot of ironic bugs filed in nova22:10
mikalJust sayin'22:10
* mikal constructively rants on openstack-dev about it22:10
mriedemwell there is an ironic driver22:11
lifelessmikal: there's a lot of bugs filed in nova ;)22:11
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mikallifeless: the level of bugs for the ironic driver is disproprotionate with its deployment22:11
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lifelessmikal: ah, that I can't quibble with22:12
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cfriesenbauzas: would you imagine that the novaclient default would be to check if it's available?  what about if the "check" flag isn't specified in the REST API?  would we check by default? (which would be a behaviour change but useful)22:14
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Drop compute RPC 3.x support  https://review.openstack.org/17995122:23
dansmithalaski: ^ guh22:23
dansmithalaski: passing unit tests locally at least22:23
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haypodansmith, melwitt : i commented https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1451992, it looks like the issue is that DevStack builds a local wheel package for xattr, whereas building a wheel package for cffi extensions doesn't work right now22:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1451992 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "swift-object-server fails to start in devstack which kills the gate" [Undecided,New]22:24
dansmithhaypo: yep, that came up like four hours ago in the proper channels I think22:25
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dansmithhaypo: if you want to help, it's probably better done in -infra22:25
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jrollmikal: oh, people actually deploy the ironic driver? hm22:26
* jroll looks into things22:26
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jrollof course comstud filed the first one I click on22:27
dansmithwho the hell is comstud/22:27
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jrollmikal: this would knock one out real quicklike https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176395/22:28
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jrolldansmith: feel free to review that, too22:30
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jrollthere's a backport somewhere22:30
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Spec for Hyper-V generation 2 VMs  https://review.openstack.org/10394522:30
bauzascfriesen: since it adds a new RPC call, I thought it was better to only check it if provided22:30
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bauzascfriesen: but that can be opt-ish22:31
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bauzascfriesen: in other words, I was preferring to default it to False22:32
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flwangmriedem: ok, thanks22:34
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bauzasmikal: I just made a run for the new bugs and some are also for vmware22:36
bauzasmikal: we now have 65 for vmware22:36
bauzasmikal: which is... erm... huge ?22:37
dansmithwait, are you saying....... the vmware driver is buggy?22:37
flwangdansmith: would you mind reviewing the nova volume backup patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164494/ ?22:37
dansmithflwang: yes I would22:37
bauzasdansmith: that depends on if I need to formalize22:38
dansmithflwang: not even passing unit tests right?22:38
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bauzasdansmith: ie. do I need to call my lawyer ?22:38
flwangdansmith: i'm asking since i'm running into a weird issue22:38
dansmithbauzas: heh22:38
dansmithflwang: what weird issue?22:38
flwangthere is a version related test cased failed22:38
flwangbut it can pass if i use tox22:38
flwangbut it will fail by run ./run_test.sh script22:39
comstuddansmith: jroll oh hai22:39
comstudwho is me22:39
dansmithflwang: that's the pbr thing I think22:39
dansmithjroll: great, you invoked the comstud22:39
jrollcomstud: hi!22:39
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comstud:)22:39
flwangi guess so, but i have no idea to fix it, since I think it's unrelated to my change22:39
flwangany idea?22:39
jrolldansmith: I'll keep doing it until you land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176395/ because that's insane not to land22:39
comstudjroll: what's the bug I filed22:40
dansmithflwang: it's unrelated to your change22:40
mikalbauzas: huh, that's a lot of bugs. Totally worth a mail thread I think.22:40
comstudI want to reminisce22:40
jrollcomstud: boot/delete races in clustered compute :)22:41
comstudahyes22:41
jrollnothing you want to remember22:41
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jrollit's still a thing fwiw :)22:41
comstudwell22:41
comstudi remember it22:41
* jroll is going to make an etcd lock manager for n-cpu just cause22:41
comstudbecause22:41
bauzasmikal: I don't know how much all of that is related, but the common denominator between those drivers is that both are the only ones having distributed computes22:41
comstudcome on launchpad... U SLOW22:41
bauzasmikal: ie. multiple nodes per host22:42
flwangdansmith: so what should I do now?22:42
comstudjroll: i think someone landed my fix for it?22:42
comstudwas looking at my reviews I still have up :)22:42
comstudI'm down to 2!22:42
comstudboth for IPA22:42
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flwangdansmith: but though seems it's not related to my change, but it's only happening in the patch, so seems it's 'related'22:43
jrollcomstud: heh, someone abandoned it because the driver landed in nova22:43
dansmithflwang: it's happening everywhere22:43
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comstudjroll: ah22:45
jrollcomstud: you're welcome to pick up those IPA imaging patches :P22:45
comstudI wonder what rebasing would be like now :)22:45
flwangdansmith: really? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova,n,z  seems the other patches work fine22:45
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comstudOnly been 6 months22:45
flwangam I missing anything?22:45
dansmithflwang: people are rechecking their patches22:45
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jrollheh22:46
melwittflwang: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1450682 the fix got merged after the unit tests last ran on your patch22:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1450682 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova unit tests failing with pbr 0.11" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Joe Gordon (jogo)22:47
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comstudjroll: i'll have to re-learn python22:47
flwangmelwitt: wow, cool, thanks a lot22:47
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flwangI'm going to recheck it22:47
jrollcomstud: perl or go these days?22:48
melwittflwang: that said, I think the gate is still broken22:48
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comstudjroll: yes22:48
comstudthose aren't mutually exclusive22:48
flwangmelwitt: still broken?22:48
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jrollcomstud: fun22:48
comstudjroll: let's just redo * in Go?22:49
jogomelwitt: very broken22:49
jogoin new and exciting ways too22:49
melwittflwang: there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1451992 happening, so while you will get a pass on the unit tests part, your patch will fail the other stuff22:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1451992 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "swift-object-server fails to start in devstack which kills the gate" [Undecided,New]22:49
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flwangmelwitt: ah, got it. thanks for the clarification22:49
dansmithflwang: left you lots of comments to keep you busy until the RPC patch merges :)22:49
dansmithcomstud: seriously? perl?22:50
flwangdansmith: lol, cheers man22:50
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dansmithflwang: any time!22:50
jogocomstud: o/22:50
jogoperl haha22:50
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comstudjogo: heya :)22:51
comstudya :-/22:51
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jogocomstud: is the packaging system at least more sane then python ?22:51
* dansmith tries to think of things he'd like to do less than perl22:51
jrollcomstud: yes please22:51
comstudjogo: f no. let's just say that it's "different"22:51
jogocomstud: lol22:51
comstudi dunno, some others here might argue it's better22:52
dansmithheh22:52
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comstudbut tbh... we're rolling code out to production much like we did at rackspace22:52
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comstudand like... cpan vs pypi? meh22:52
dansmithlol cpan22:52
comstudit's just different.22:52
jrollcomstud: I'm so sorry22:53
comstud<322:53
jrollmodern software at least?22:53
jroll:P22:53
comstudwe're at least using perl in ways that make it more interesting22:53
jrollI meant I'm sorry about deploy mechanism, to be clear22:53
dansmithflwang: seriously if you rebase on top of that patch everything will be much easier for you, I think22:53
comstudvery OO...objects, roles22:53
dansmithflwang: it'll make more sense too22:53
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comstudjroll: yeah22:54
jogocomstud: I hear perl6 is the python3 of perl land22:54
dansmithheh22:54
comstudyeah basically22:54
comstudthat's what I hear too22:54
comstud:)22:54
dansmithexcept fewer people want it?22:54
jogodo you use it?22:54
comstudlol22:54
flwangdansmith: rebase on which patch?22:54
comstudno22:54
dansmithso like, two people22:54
comstudwe're on 522:54
dansmithflwang: left a link in my comments22:54
comstudan ancient version at that22:54
comstudalthough not for much longer22:54
flwangdansmith: ok, cool22:54
comstudi don't think22:54
flwangdansmith: you're always the superman like mriedem22:55
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dansmithflwang: I'm just mriedem's sidekick at most22:55
comstuddansmith: so that's what happened after we broke up22:56
dansmithcomstud: yeah, it was like a week of ice cream and cartoons in my jammies before I was like "eff it, comstud ain't comin back and I need a new sugar daddy"22:56
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comstudlol22:56
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comstudi need to figure out a patch for L22:57
dansmithto keep your dignity? I mean, "ATC status" of course22:57
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comstudyeah, those are 2 different things22:57
dansmithyou could probably swing "permanent ATC emeritus" status22:58
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comstudheheh23:00
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comstudI'm all about permanent nova core23:01
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* comstud slips some money to the TC via russellb23:03
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* comstud slips some money to dansmith for the ice cream costs.23:04
dansmithcomstud: startup life must be treating you well if you've got all this money to burn :)23:04
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comstudyou know my salary requirements23:04
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dansmithyes, yes, I do :)23:05
comstudi can buy you lots of ice cream23:05
dansmithhehe23:05
comstud3 scoops23:06
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Refactor tests that use compute's deprecated run_instance() method  https://review.openstack.org/17995023:21
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Drop compute RPC 3.x support  https://review.openstack.org/17995123:21
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