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openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/nova-specs: Instance Users for Cloud Interaction https://review.openstack.org/186617 | 00:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Luo Gangyi proposed openstack/nova: Ensure bridge exists before resuming a VM after an offline snapshot https://review.openstack.org/149942 | 02:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Rong Han proposed openstack/nova: Catch NovaException from post_live_migration_at_destination, set instance vm_state error. https://review.openstack.org/186634 | 03:21 |
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gabriel-bezerra | Hi, dansmith. Please, check my comments on https://review.openstack.org/186536 . | 03:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Fix checks of resize down of instance created with volume https://review.openstack.org/186643 | 03:51 |
openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova: CreateVM supports subnet specified https://review.openstack.org/182969 | 03:52 |
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openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed openstack/nova: Add config option to override url for versions https://review.openstack.org/160266 | 04:03 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/179638 | 06:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Noel Nelson Dsouza proposed openstack/nova: Not able to delete Flavors use by the Instances. https://review.openstack.org/186665 | 07:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Luo Gangyi proposed openstack/nova: Ensure bridge exists before resuming a VM after an offline snapshot https://review.openstack.org/149942 | 08:57 |
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ndipanov | bauwser, morning | 09:03 |
bauwser | ndipanov: morning | 09:03 |
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ndipanov | so I am reading previous PSs for the RequestSpec and I see I had the same comment on PS 7 | 09:04 |
ndipanov | that we should either not duplicate this data in the request spec or that we should at least provide a clear API for dealing with it | 09:05 |
ndipanov | that is not if instance.smth and not request_spec.smth: | 09:05 |
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ndipanov | so what am I missing here | 09:05 |
bauwser | ndipanov: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145528/7/nova/objects/request_spec.py,cm jaypipes's comment | 09:05 |
bauwser | ndipanov: oh I see your comment actually *facepalm* | 09:06 |
ndipanov | OK fair enough | 09:06 |
ndipanov | but like I said there - due to the _new and _old stuff | 09:07 |
ndipanov | we have to decide where these go | 09:07 |
bauwser | ndipanov: I see your problem, it's about dups | 09:07 |
ndipanov | and for flavors (and likely numa) they go on the instance | 09:07 |
ndipanov | and we do need them on the compute side | 09:07 |
ndipanov | even if we don't need them in the scheduler | 09:07 |
ndipanov | (I think( | 09:07 |
bauwser | ndipanov: yeah, that hasn't been addressed during the spec review, and we didn't discussed on that at the sched sessions | 09:07 |
ndipanov | let me think about it some more | 09:08 |
ndipanov | but as it stands now | 09:08 |
bauwser | ndipanov: since I was formerly working on providing the ReqSpec only for the scheduler, we actually didn't need to have those | 09:08 |
ndipanov | right | 09:08 |
bauwser | ndipanov: since we only needed to have the fields only for the consume_from_instance() method and the filters | 09:08 |
ndipanov | we can probably get away with not having it even now | 09:09 |
ndipanov | but then we have 2 places | 09:09 |
ndipanov | which is what bothers me | 09:09 |
bauwser | ndipanov: but since now we're planning to use the RequestSpec object for more than the scheduler, maybe we should discuss on your point | 09:09 |
bauwser | ndipanov: yeah agreed | 09:09 |
ndipanov | yes | 09:09 |
ndipanov | that is exactly what I'm saying | 09:09 |
bauwser | ndipanov: I think we should discuss that with the other people | 09:09 |
ndipanov | sorry if I wasn't clear :( | 09:09 |
ndipanov | yes :) | 09:09 |
bauwser | ndipanov: no no, that's fair | 09:09 |
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bauwser | ndipanov: I mean, I totally understand your point | 09:09 |
bauwser | ndipanov: honestly, I think it's a good point | 09:10 |
bauwser | ndipanov: since changing objects fields is really difficult | 09:10 |
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ndipanov | if the answer is: we add methods to the instance to deal with it like instance.whats_my_flavor(request_spec) | 09:10 |
ndipanov | that's fine too | 09:10 |
bauwser | ndipanov: so I want to make sure the object is good enough for all | 09:10 |
ndipanov | but then we should at least sketch out that API | 09:10 |
bauwser | ndipanov: yeah... | 09:11 |
bauwser | ndipanov: on my side, I'll work on the left patches for that, since I'll create a .to_legacy_dicts() method for the object | 09:11 |
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ndipanov | let's see with dansmith and jay later | 09:11 |
bauwser | ndipanov: so the scheduler manager will just take the ReqSpec object and backports it to filt_props and req_spec dicts, until we change the filters | 09:12 |
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ndipanov | bauwser, ok but I had a change up that changes filter and it will not be that different for your case | 09:12 |
bauwser | ndipanov: so, I mean, I'm not that worried on what would be the object, since for the moment, I will just use the helper methods for primitiving/unprimitiving the object | 09:12 |
ndipanov | so it's one patch | 09:12 |
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bauwser | ndipanov: link ? | 09:13 |
ndipanov | looking | 09:13 |
bauwser | ndipanov: okay | 09:13 |
ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160483/ | 09:13 |
bauwser | ndipanov: ah this one | 09:14 |
ndipanov | so this was more aggressive than what you want to do | 09:14 |
ndipanov | this is the other way around | 09:14 |
ndipanov | if we get the old one - upgrade it | 09:14 |
bauwser | ndipanov: well, I have 2 workitems | 09:15 |
bauwser | ndipanov: first, I'm changing the interface only | 09:15 |
bauwser | ndipanov: give it a ReqSpec object using a new API method, and then call the existing FilterScheduler driver by primitiving the ReqSpec to (req_spec, filt_props) dicts | 09:15 |
ndipanov | yeah speaking from the experience with block devices - if it;s not too difficult - get rid of the legacy asap | 09:16 |
bauwser | ndipanov: secondly, I'll change the drivers and the filters to take a ReqSpec object instead of a filter_props dict | 09:16 |
ndipanov | yes | 09:16 |
ndipanov | so maybe the inverse approach might work too | 09:16 |
ndipanov | change the scheduler to use internally the new stuff | 09:17 |
ndipanov | and migrate the code | 09:17 |
ndipanov | and then start sending it in a next patch | 09:17 |
ndipanov | having 2 formats just sucks | 09:17 |
bauwser | ndipanov: fair point, it was just about giving the API version bump sooner than later | 09:17 |
ndipanov | trust me :) | 09:17 |
bauwser | ndipanov: I'm not opiniated on that one | 09:18 |
bauwser | ndipanov: I mean, for the moment, I'm just writing down the objects and their primitiving helpers | 09:18 |
ndipanov | right | 09:18 |
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bauwser | ndipanov: but indeed, you're right, using the ReqSpec object directly in the scheduler allows to prevent to call the primitiving methods with the risk that the objectify/dictify calls are not idempotenty | 09:19 |
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bauwser | ndipanov: for example, a stringified int is not dictified back to a string but rather to an integer | 09:20 |
bauwser | ndipanov: which is errorprone | 09:21 |
bauwser | ndipanov: okay, you got me opiniated now, I'll hydrate the ReqSpec on the Scheduler first, and then only after that, create the API call | 09:21 |
ndipanov | bauwser, I think it will be less work | 09:22 |
bauwser | ndipanov: not really, rather more secure | 09:22 |
ndipanov | (source: I did the oposite with BDMs and it sucked :)) | 09:23 |
ndipanov | well less work to fix all the bugs :D | 09:23 |
bauwser | LOL | 09:23 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: make _create_domain to return a Guest object https://review.openstack.org/182185 | 09:24 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce method poweroff to Guest object https://review.openstack.org/182194 | 09:24 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce method resume to Guest object https://review.openstack.org/182195 | 09:24 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce a Guest to wrap around virConnect https://review.openstack.org/174313 | 09:24 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce method get_guest to Host object https://review.openstack.org/181969 | 09:24 |
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alex_xu | gilliard: do we want api meeting today? | 09:43 |
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alex_xu | not sure all the people back to work yet | 09:47 |
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johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I guess the lack of a response means no meeting, I should get back to this etherpad of doom! | 09:54 |
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andrearosa | alex_xu: gilliard is out of office today, not sure he will see your message | 09:54 |
openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Create instance_extra entry if it doesn't update https://review.openstack.org/186497 | 09:55 |
alex_xu | andrearosa: thanks! | 09:55 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: let's cancel the meeting | 09:55 |
johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I am cool with that | 09:56 |
bauwser | alex_xu: when are usually running the API meeting ? | 09:56 |
bauwser | 1200UTC ? | 09:56 |
johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I am not sure I will be able to attend all the time, but happy to see the effort going well, I will probably just jump in to ask questions, etc | 09:56 |
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alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok, got it. I also hope get some feedback for the etherpad. Also confuse what we need to do for doc. I guess sdague know that. But I didn't see he active this week | 09:59 |
alex_xu | bauwser: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaAPI | 09:59 |
johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: ah the docs are tricky, I think anne_gentle is wanting to help out with that stuff | 10:00 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea, I didn't saw anne online also | 10:00 |
johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: she is in texas | 10:01 |
bauwser | alex_xu: cool thanks | 10:01 |
alex_xu | bauwser: we won't have meeting this week, I saw most api team member didn't around | 10:02 |
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alex_xu | bauwser: anything you need help? | 10:02 |
bauwser | alex_xu: that's what I understood | 10:02 |
bauwser | alex_xu: not really, just jumping in | 10:02 |
bauwser | alex_xu: since I'm interested in knowing your progress | 10:03 |
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alex_xu | bauwser: ok, we just have working list yet, didn't have too much progress yet :) | 10:05 |
alex_xu | bauwser: if you interesting https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-api-working-list :) | 10:05 |
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bauwser | alex_xu: well, I'm already kinda busy with the sched and cells stuff + bugs, but I'll see if I can help | 10:06 |
PaulMurray | alex_xu, johnthetubaguy : gilliard is on holiday today | 10:07 |
bauwser | alex_xu: like I said, it's more about making sure that I'm not reviewing something against your opinions, guys | 10:07 |
bauwser | PaulMurray: damn English people with all their vacation ! | 10:07 |
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mdbooth | bauwser: English people take holidays, not vacations ;) | 10:08 |
johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: :D | 10:08 |
openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] parse timestamp strings before saving to DB https://review.openstack.org/186522 | 10:08 |
alex_xu | bauwser: I see, I'm also interesting sched, let see if i can help review also :) | 10:08 |
PaulMurray | bauwser, I still need a decent friday nick - I have no imagination - maybe I should start a thread on the dev list to propose one | 10:09 |
alex_xu | PaulMurray: thanks | 10:09 |
openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Ignore me - trying oslo.* master against Nova unit tests https://review.openstack.org/186413 | 10:09 |
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bauwser | PaulMurray: doodle it rather ;) | 10:09 |
andrearosa | PaulMurray: on friday we could swap our nicknames | 10:10 |
johnthetubaguy | bauwser: don't french types just have the whole summer off work, or is that just a crazy rumor started by the english? | 10:10 |
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bauwser | johnthetubaguy: shhhhht | 10:10 |
johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: MurrayMints? | 10:10 |
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bauwser | johnthetubaguy: technically France is just shutdown by August :) | 10:10 |
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bauwser | PaulMurray: PaulPosition ? | 10:11 |
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johnthetubaguy | bauwser: yeah, lol | 10:11 |
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bauwser | the real story is that's more true on May :) | 10:12 |
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PaulMurray | matt suggested something to do with dominos - after he found a story about a Paul Murray who had a complaint about dominos pizzas | 10:13 |
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PaulMurray | maybe something base on cheeky on cheeky nandos: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cheeky+Nandos&defid=8273456 | 10:15 |
bauwser | PaulMurray: that's exactly where you lost me :) | 10:15 |
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bauwser | at least, my own Friday nick is even registered :) | 10:16 |
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PaulMurray | its something gilliard was going on about a couple of days ago (I'm glad he has gone on holiday) | 10:16 |
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PaulMurray | JohnTubaNotSousa, <--- ?? | 10:18 |
PaulMurray | JohnTubaNotSousa, being serious for a moment - there was talk about hosting a Muppet midcycle in europe yesterday | 10:19 |
bauwser | would be end of January | 10:19 |
PaulMurray | JohnTubaNotSousa, I can host that - what do you need from me | 10:19 |
PaulMurray | JohnTubaNotSousa, to propose it | 10:19 |
bauwser | PaulMurray: I was about to contact some Mirantis or HP folks in Grenoble too | 10:19 |
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JohnTubaNotSousa | PaulMurray: that sounds good | 10:20 |
JohnTubaNotSousa | PaulMurray: I guess its not too bad to get heathrow -> bristol right? | 10:20 |
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PaulMurray | JohnTubaNotSousa, not too bad at all - a lot of people fly to Bristol too | 10:20 |
PaulMurray | bauwser, you can go direct from Grenoble->Bristol in winter | 10:21 |
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bauwser | PaulMurray: oh gosh I know... | 10:21 |
PaulMurray | bauwser, I expect its a regular holiday destination for you Grenoblites | 10:21 |
PaulMurray | :) | 10:21 |
bauwser | PaulMurray: I'm seeing lots of English packers coming in by winter on the slopes kinda ebriated | 10:22 |
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JohnTubaNotSousa | PaulMurray: ah yes, direct from paddington, that is really quite easy | 10:22 |
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JohnTubaNotSousa | PaulMurray: that sounds like a good plan, though, we should write that down somewhare | 10:24 |
JohnTubaNotSousa | where | 10:24 |
PaulMurray | JohnTubaNotSousa, at our office BS34 8QZ | 10:25 |
bauwser | at least LHR sounds a good hub | 10:25 |
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bauwser | that's the main problem I have with LYS which is not that good | 10:25 |
bauwser | and GVA is not that good too | 10:26 |
bauwser | so yeah, having <anywhere> -> LHR -> Bristol sounds decent | 10:26 |
JohnTubaNotSousa | bauwser: true, although probably a quick hop from paris | 10:26 |
JohnTubaNotSousa | yeah, most places in the US are two hops to LHR, then train up to bristol | 10:27 |
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bauwser | JohnTubaNotSousa: as said PaulMurray there is even a GNB -> Bristol so... | 10:27 |
JohnTubaNotSousa | right, lots of options | 10:27 |
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johnthetubaguy | Ok, so my nic was annoying me | 10:27 |
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bauwser | at least, that's good to know for people who want to ski by this time, they could also stop at Grenoble :) | 10:28 |
bauwser | like we did with the Ironic folks :) | 10:28 |
PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy bauwser chauffeur driven car from LHR is not too costly for groups - we usually do that returning home | 10:28 |
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johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: ah, very true, we could car pool for that | 10:29 |
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andrearosa | from US I think one other good option is to flight to Amsterdam then Amsterdam -> Bristol | 10:38 |
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bauwser | andrearosa: that depends on the US company | 10:39 |
bauwser | andrearosa: if that's Delta, it's the same as for AirFrance/KLM with their hub in AMS or CDG | 10:40 |
bauwser | andrearosa: PaulMurray: I actually checked the routes for Bristol, and there are a very few from LYS (and none from GNB) | 10:41 |
bauwser | PaulMurray: andrearosa: how could we reach Bristol easily from London ? | 10:41 |
mdbooth | Train or car are both easy | 10:42 |
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andrearosa | mdbooth: what mdbooth said | 10:42 |
mdbooth | Bristol has pretty good connections for a small city | 10:42 |
bauwser | okay I see there are direct flights but only on Saturdays... | 10:44 |
mdbooth | If you're weighing options, probably worth also looking at bhx airport | 10:47 |
mdbooth | (my local) | 10:47 |
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bauwser | mdbooth: will consider that :) | 10:52 |
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PaulMurray | bauwser, LHR->bristol, by coach (direct), by train express to paddington every 15 mins, then change and direct to london, or best of all, by chauffeur driven luxury car (similar to train fare if there are a few of you) | 10:58 |
PaulMurray | bauwser, or if you intend to rent a car.... then by car | 10:58 |
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bauwser | PaulMurray: ack | 10:59 |
PaulMurray | I think there are more flights from GVA-BRS - if you want to take your chances in the easyjet scrum in Geneva | 10:59 |
PaulMurray | bauwser, oops, the train directions should read: express to paddington (in london) then change and direct to BRISTOL - :) | 11:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Use datastore copy when the image is already in vSphere https://review.openstack.org/186716 | 11:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Make ComputeNode.service_id nullable to match db schema https://review.openstack.org/169284 | 11:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Implement server instance tagging https://review.openstack.org/177112 | 11:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Andre Aranha proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add 'passthrough' namespace in flavor extra_specs https://review.openstack.org/186536 | 11:59 |
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sahid | ndipanov: i'm reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185591/ | 12:03 |
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sahid | hum... forget about me | 12:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Noel Nelson Dsouza proposed openstack/nova: Not able to delete Flavors used by the Instances. https://review.openstack.org/186665 | 12:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Andre Aranha proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add 'passthrough' namespace in flavor extra_specs https://review.openstack.org/186536 | 12:20 |
openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Avoid querying for Service in resource tracker https://review.openstack.org/169288 | 12:22 |
openstackgerrit | Vipin Balachandran proposed openstack/nova: Detach volume while handling Cinder attach failure https://review.openstack.org/186742 | 12:23 |
ndipanov | sahid, what's thew problem with it? | 12:27 |
ndipanov | it's just a backport | 12:27 |
sahid | ndipanov: np i made mistake | 12:29 |
ndipanov | sahid, :) | 12:29 |
openstackgerrit | Alexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Do not cache number of CPUs of the hypervisor https://review.openstack.org/186746 | 12:32 |
danpb | ndipanov: i'm trying to understand BDM and hotplug | 12:32 |
danpb | ndipanov: when i run "nova volume-attach cirros1 28be473f-0e98-40f1-a032-fe91da15495b auto" | 12:33 |
danpb | ndipanov: the nova.compute.manager.attach_volume() call gets invoked with a BDM with device_path=/dev/hdb | 12:33 |
danpb | ndipanov: i'm trying to understand which code is turning 'auto' in to /dev/hdb | 12:33 |
danpb | as that's clearly happening somewhere before attach_volume() gets invoked on the manager | 12:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Vipin Balachandran proposed openstack/nova: Detach volume while handling Cinder attach failure https://review.openstack.org/186742 | 12:41 |
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johnthetubaguy | danpb: doesn't that translation code happen in the API layer, based on the BDMs and some horrid hacks? | 12:44 |
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ndipanov | danpb, hmmm | 12:52 |
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ndipanov | dan, so attach volume calls out to the manager to do reserve_device_name no? | 12:52 |
danpb | ah ha, its done in reserve_block_device_name | 12:52 |
danpb | yes, just found it | 12:52 |
ndipanov | danpb, that is | 12:52 |
ndipanov | that's what my patch series that's up now fixes for libvirt | 12:53 |
danpb | fixes it in what way ? | 12:53 |
ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180638/ | 12:53 |
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danpb | what's currently broken about it | 12:54 |
ndipanov | that it will use the generic code which may not be correct for libvirt | 12:54 |
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danpb | oh i see the bug now | 12:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Add tox target for bandit security checks https://review.openstack.org/186752 | 12:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Make ComputeNode.service_id nullable to match db schema https://review.openstack.org/169284 | 13:21 |
openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove/deprecate unused parts of the compute node object https://review.openstack.org/186757 | 13:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Avoid querying for Service in resource tracker https://review.openstack.org/169288 | 13:26 |
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mdbooth | Are the contents of connection_info documented anywhere? | 13:43 |
mriedem | mdbooth: doubtful | 13:43 |
mdbooth | Yeah, seems a bit wild west | 13:44 |
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mriedem | there are some things that i think you can expect, like 'data' and some things in that | 13:44 |
mriedem | would be nice to make that an object rather than a serialized dict passed around | 13:44 |
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mdbooth | Actually it's the contents of data I'm interested in | 13:45 |
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mdbooth | This looks wrong to me: | 13:45 |
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mdbooth | return zip(iscsi_properties.get('target_portals', []), | 13:45 |
mdbooth | iscsi_properties.get('target_iqns', []), | 13:45 |
mdbooth | iscsi_properties.get('target_luns', [])) | 13:45 |
mdbooth | But only because I wouldn't necessarily expect those 3 things to have the same length | 13:46 |
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mriedem | ndipanov: are you around? | 13:47 |
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ndipanov | mriedem, sup | 13:54 |
mriedem | ndipanov: remember the other day i was asking about that live migrate bug where there is a volume attached and live migration fails, and the bug said that the connection_info in the block_device_mapping table changed in pre_live_migration, but rollback wasn't cleaning that up? | 13:55 |
dave-mcnally | any kindly soul want to approve a change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176805/ | 13:55 |
mriedem | so if you reboot the instance after the live migrate failure, it tries connecting to the wrong bdm | 13:55 |
mriedem | something like that | 13:55 |
ndipanov | mriedem, yes | 13:55 |
ndipanov | I think it's because the new conn info is not saved | 13:55 |
mriedem | ndipanov: you said there was something in the libvirt driver pre_live_migration() method that actually modified the connection_info data but I wasn't seeing that - i see it connect to the volume in libvirt.volumes and connection_info is mutated there, but i dont' see that getting put back into the bdm object and saved to the db | 13:56 |
ndipanov | mriedem, exactly | 13:56 |
ndipanov | connect_volume of the volume driver modifies it | 13:56 |
ndipanov | and then it never gets saved | 13:56 |
mriedem | ndipanov: the only thing i saw was the connection_info stuff was returned to compute manager in pre_live_migrate_data/result (whatever that's called) which goes down to live migrate which changes the domain xml with it | 13:56 |
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ndipanov | right but never saves it | 13:57 |
mriedem | ndipanov: oh, i thought the issue was the contents were changed, written to the db, but not backed out | 13:57 |
mriedem | ok ok | 13:57 |
ndipanov | let me find the exact line | 13:57 |
mriedem | and libvirt.volumes.connect_volume does return the connection_info, but pre_live_migration() doesn't do anything with it | 13:57 |
mriedem | to store it back on the bdm | 13:57 |
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ndipanov | yes | 13:58 |
ndipanov | and then once you reboot the instance it is read from the db and boom | 13:58 |
mriedem | we probably wouldn't want to do that in the virt driver anyway, but we get the data back in the compute manager, we could save it there | 13:58 |
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mriedem | b/c connect_volume actually changed the physical connections | 13:58 |
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mriedem | ok, this is at least more clear now | 13:59 |
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mriedem | ndipanov: i noticed you also had the red hat bugzilla for the same cve :) | 13:59 |
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mriedem | i noticed after we had been talking about it - coincidentally | 13:59 |
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ndipanov | mriedem, well we can do it in the driver as well that's why we have objects wrapped | 13:59 |
ndipanov | mriedem, oh? | 14:00 |
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ndipanov | link pls | 14:00 |
mriedem | sec | 14:00 |
mriedem | yeah we could do it in the virt driver too...i was wondering more about other virt drivers that support live migrate with attached volumes | 14:00 |
mriedem | ndipanov: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1205314 | 14:01 |
openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1205314 in openstack-nova "CVE-2015-2687 openstack-nova: information leak when live-migration failed [fedora-all]" [Low,New] - Assigned to ndipanov | 14:01 |
ndipanov | and it's even assigned to me - lovely :) | 14:01 |
mriedem | there were 2 bugs on this issue, i duped one against the other since the first one (opened against havana) had more details and the security team comments on it | 14:01 |
mriedem | yeah, heh :L) | 14:01 |
mriedem | i added the lp and cve mailing list links in there | 14:02 |
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mriedem | i got a bit confused in the lp bug and mailing list on the cve | 14:02 |
mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1419577 | 14:02 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1419577 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "when live-migrate failed, lun-id couldn't be rollback in havana" [High,Confirmed] | 14:02 |
mriedem | b/c this was mentioned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118581/ | 14:03 |
mriedem | i think as a means of making live migrate fail - so that was fixed back to stable/icehouse | 14:03 |
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mriedem | we backported https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118581/ to our internal havana since we still support that, just in case | 14:03 |
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mriedem | but the security team was saying, this is a bug, sure, with security implications but the attacker has to have root access on your system to exploit the live migration failures as noted in the bug, like taking down your network or accessing the nova db, so it wasn't as critical | 14:04 |
mriedem | after havana that is | 14:04 |
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mriedem | and there were generic comments in the LP bug like, 'well, live migrate sucked in havana, so yeah, it will fail a lot and you'll have this issue', that was pretty vague | 14:05 |
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mriedem | ndipanov: anyway, i'll update the lp bug with some notes and maybe work on some poc changes to hack around this | 14:09 |
mriedem | something that's backportable | 14:09 |
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danpb | mriedem: if you have to have root on the compute node to exploit it, then its not a security bug | 14:11 |
mriedem | danpb: that's what i gathered from the bug report above, but it was a bit vague like i said, | 14:11 |
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mriedem | danpb: it sounded like the security team was basing that on what the reporter was giving as examples of how to recreate the bug, | 14:12 |
danpb | because after all if you have root, you can do whatever you want with anything | 14:12 |
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mriedem | danpb: i.e. setup vm on host A, take down network on host B, live migrate to host B | 14:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Vipin Balachandran proposed openstack/nova: Detach and terminate conn if Cinder attach fails https://review.openstack.org/186742 | 14:14 |
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mriedem | danpb: like this comment is a bit vague https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1419577/comments/9 | 14:16 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1419577 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "when live-migrate failed, lun-id couldn't be rollback in havana" [High,Confirmed] | 14:16 |
mriedem | "Agree that it's a vulnerability in Havana (since live-migration fails so often there)." | 14:17 |
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mriedem | and then eventually it was just, 'but havana is eol now so whatevs' | 14:17 |
claudiub | mriedem: hello. Can you +2 this commit again? Last night it failed because of unused imports.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181916/ Ty! | 14:17 |
mriedem | claudiub: looking | 14:18 |
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mriedem | danpb: does having a cve attached to a bug make it a security bug, or is that just some other implication/classification since the openstack security advisory is marked as won't fix? | 14:20 |
mriedem | i'm not really sure how all the security stuff works | 14:20 |
openstackgerrit | Vipin Balachandran proposed openstack/nova: Detach and terminate conn if Cinder attach fails https://review.openstack.org/186742 | 14:20 |
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erw | mriedem: if something has a (valid) CVE that means that someone felt it was/is a vulnerability and applied for the CVE, or was part of an organization that can assign CVEs directly (RedHat can do this) | 14:21 |
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mriedem | someone from red hat did request the cve, at least for havana http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q1/981 | 14:22 |
mriedem | but when they requested it, havana was already eol upstream | 14:22 |
mriedem | although red hat still supports it, which i guess is what the cve request was for | 14:22 |
danpb | presumably that's becasue of a product stream still maintained | 14:22 |
danpb | its pretty common for RH to do CVEs for stuff upstream considers dead | 14:22 |
erw | mriedem: CVEs can be invalidated, however. If there is an OpenStack Security Advisory indicating it is a WontFix then it means that either the vulnerability is acknowledged but is not being fixed because that code is unsupported... or if the code is supported, that the CVE is invalid | 14:23 |
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erw | danpb: yep! | 14:25 |
mriedem | so i guess http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q1/1006 is saying it's considered a valid cve | 14:26 |
mriedem | "There is at least one person (hfamily15) who believes it is a vulnerability within all of these releases" - that was the person that reported the bug originally | 14:26 |
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mriedem | it's just confusing to me when ^ says, yeah this is a valid security issue in icehouse/juno but the lp bug says, won't fix | 14:26 |
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kashyap | mriedem: Maybe somebody just has to speak up, if they think it's not valid? Given: "nobody has indicated that it must not be considered a vulnerability within any of these releases. | 14:30 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: network: fix instance cache refresh for empty list https://review.openstack.org/186315 | 14:30 |
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mriedem | kashyap: i think ttx did here https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1419577/comments/9 | 14:31 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1419577 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "when live-migrate failed, lun-id couldn't be rollback in havana" [High,Confirmed] | 14:31 |
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mriedem | "I wouldn't consider it a vulnerability in Icehouse/Juno, since you can't trigger live migration failure without administrative or physical access to the machines." | 14:31 |
mriedem | anyway, probably doesn't matter at this point, i'm just confused by the process a bit | 14:32 |
kashyap | mriedem: Yeah, that looks pretty clear. | 14:32 |
mriedem | bknudson handles this for my team so i usually have him translate for me | 14:33 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: network: fix instance cache refresh for empty list https://review.openstack.org/186315 | 14:34 |
mriedem | fyi for red hat stable maintainers http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/065144.html | 14:34 |
mriedem | we're talking about no longer doing point releases on stable and everyone in the session at summit said that was fine, but there was only 1 or 2 red hat guys in the room | 14:34 |
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gabriel-bezerra | johnthetubaguy: John Garbutt? | 14:38 |
johnthetubaguy | gabriel-bezerra: yes thats me | 14:38 |
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johnthetubaguy | gabriel-bezerra: can I help? | 14:39 |
gabriel-bezerra | johnthetubaguy: I'd like to discuss that passthrough spec with you and dansmith later. I'll have a long meeting now and so can't do it right now | 14:39 |
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johnthetubaguy | gabriel-bezerra: that should be possible, but I am in the UK, in terms of time planning | 14:39 |
gabriel-bezerra | johnthetubaguy: ok, I'll keep that in mind. | 14:40 |
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gabriel-bezerra | johnthetubaguy: if we cannot make it today, is Monday good by you? | 14:40 |
johnthetubaguy | gabriel-bezerra: yep | 14:40 |
gabriel-bezerra | johnthetubaguy: good. thanks. | 14:41 |
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PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, ndipanov looking for a second +2/+W on this as the owner is going on 2 months of leave in an hour - any takers? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176805 | 14:45 |
ndipanov | PaulMurray, otp but can take a look later | 14:45 |
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PaulMurray | ndipanov, thanks - I can look after it if need be but rather be able to forget about it | 14:46 |
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claudiub | alaski_vanc: ping | 14:52 |
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PaulMurray | thanks johnthetubaguy | 15:08 |
PaulMurray | ndipanov, johnthetubaguy did the review above, thanks for offering | 15:08 |
johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: cool, but given the gate is unhappy, it might need some manual pushing still, let me know if you need +2s +W etc though | 15:09 |
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PaulMurray | thanks | 15:09 |
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ndipanov | PaulMurray, that's why he's the ptl :) | 15:13 |
mriedem | gate is unhappy? | 15:13 |
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kfox1111 | I sumitted the first stab at a spec for the Instance Users thingy we talked about at the summit. | 15:14 |
kfox1111 | https://review.openstack.org/186617 | 15:15 |
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kfox1111 | I also want to add two more related features, but not sure it belongs in that spec or another one. IE, creating the server shutoff, and precreating the instance user. Should I put those both in the same spec or break them out? | 15:16 |
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mdrabe | Can I get a core to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184282/ pretty please | 15:20 |
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bauwser | mdrabe: adding your change to the trivial bug list | 15:28 |
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kfox1111 | do I need to do anything to get my spec on the agenda for review? | 15:31 |
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kfox1111 | I'm expecting it to be somewhat controversial. | 15:31 |
bauwser | kfox1111: before that, could you please fix the Jenkins issues ? | 15:32 |
bauwser | also the next meeting on next Thursday, which leaves plenty of time for getting your first reviews :) | 15:33 |
bauwser | johnthetubaguy: could you please remind me when the spec review day is ? | 15:34 |
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mriedem | bauwser: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 15:35 |
mriedem | TODO - spec review day, Friday, June 12th? | 15:35 |
russellb | fyi, Neutron has a spec up for adding availability zone, and we need to make sure it makes some sane sense along side nova's same concept. The spec still needs a good bit of work IMO, but in case anyone wants to follow/comment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169612 | 15:37 |
bauwser | mriedem: thanks, was lazy :/ | 15:37 |
bauwser | russellb: I have to go in 2 mins but the Nova AZs are controversial now | 15:38 |
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mriedem | russellb: huh, that's probably why sam morrisson's change last week to change az for neutron ports was going bonkers | 15:38 |
mriedem | :) | 15:38 |
kashyap | Will this be rolled into a Gerrit review (IIRC, I noticed one for last cycle)? Also, it's all mostly broken chunks of bullet points. Will proper additional context be added by those who were present in person? - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-liberty-priorities | 15:38 |
mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181776/ | 15:38 |
mriedem | kashyap: it could be, jogo did it for kilo i think | 15:39 |
mriedem | someone just has to step up and push the patch | 15:39 |
kashyap | Someone present in person would be ideal, due to the context they have. | 15:39 |
openstackgerrit | Earle F. Philhower, III proposed openstack/nova: Add support for HGST Solutions volumes to libvirt https://review.openstack.org/186594 | 15:40 |
mriedem | epic name ^ | 15:40 |
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russellb | mriedem: heh, yeah, it's not used by neutron today (and if it's by some backend using that value, that's an interesting hack i didn't know about) | 15:40 |
kfox1111 | bauwser: yeah, its on my todo list for this morning. | 15:40 |
russellb | bauwser: what's not controversial? :) | 15:41 |
russellb | even glance is full of controversy these days | 15:41 |
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bauwser | rustlebee: full of wisdom https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-scheduler-in-liberty | 15:42 |
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bauwser | rustlebee: L57 and L94 | 15:42 |
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bauwser | rustlebee: nothing really agreed yet | 15:43 |
mriedem | mdrabe: approved | 15:43 |
rustlebee | bauwser: nothing seems to fundamentally change the concept, more just how it's implemented internally | 15:43 |
rustlebee | from a quick read anyway | 15:43 |
bauwser | rustlebee: the spec is a little bumpy on that | 15:44 |
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bauwser | rustlebee: that's why I called it 'controversial' | 15:44 |
rustlebee | gotcha | 15:44 |
bauwser | anyway, got to go ! | 15:44 |
rustlebee | o/ | 15:44 |
* rustlebee hasn't been rustlebee in a long time ... | 15:44 | |
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mdrabe | mriedem: ty | 15:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Add tox target for bandit security checks https://review.openstack.org/186752 | 15:50 |
openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Suppress false alarms from bandit https://review.openstack.org/186805 | 15:50 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add common function for v2.1 API flavor_get. https://review.openstack.org/136568 | 15:55 |
openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add common function for v2 API flavor_get. https://review.openstack.org/136567 | 15:55 |
kfox1111 | oh... yeah... How do you put json in a spec without tox blowing up over it? | 15:56 |
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mriedem | kfox1111: very carefully | 16:03 |
mriedem | let me find an example | 16:03 |
mriedem | kfox1111: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168996/ | 16:03 |
mriedem | do it in a code block | 16:04 |
mriedem | :: | 16:04 |
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kfox1111 | cool. thanks. :) | 16:06 |
johnthetubaguy | bauwser: yeah, I will put those dates up somewhere official soon, and get a thread out the the ML | 16:07 |
kfox1111 | that seemed to do the trick. | 16:08 |
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kfox1111 | arg... its still flipping out a little bit about a json array. :/ | 16:14 |
kfox1111 | <string>:96: (ERROR/3) Unknown interpreted text role "ref". | 16:14 |
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kfox1111 | I guess that part of the example is really unimportant. I'll just nuke it. | 16:15 |
johnthetubaguy | rustlebee: thats an interesting spec about AZs and neutron | 16:16 |
johnthetubaguy | rustlebee: we should get alaski_vanc to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169612 from a cells point of view, its getting very close to what cells is wanting to do | 16:16 |
kfox1111 | are there any plans for quotas per AZ or Flavor? | 16:16 |
kfox1111 | we really really could use them. :/ | 16:16 |
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rustlebee | johnthetubaguy: cool | 16:17 |
openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/nova-specs: Instance Users for Cloud Interaction https://review.openstack.org/186617 | 16:18 |
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ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, question | 16:30 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: sure | 16:30 |
ndipanov | is ec2 API now exclusively worked on at stackforge | 16:30 |
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ndipanov | since I think I still see it in the nova tree | 16:31 |
ndipanov | is it being synced or what? | 16:31 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: yeah, its deprecated, and staying in tree | 16:31 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: its totally separate different code, as I understand it | 16:31 |
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ndipanov | so bug fixes go there right? | 16:31 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: the stackforge one is a nova api proxy | 16:31 |
ndipanov | o IC | 16:31 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: bugs fixes are a tricky one... | 16:32 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: I think we would accept regressions, for sure | 16:32 |
ndipanov | so it's completely different codebase that actually proxies to a running nova api | 16:32 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: but "fixes" that amount to adding features are a no | 16:32 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: yeah, we added nova APIs for them, to make that work | 16:32 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: hence the debate about the device name | 16:33 |
ndipanov | oh - which ones? | 16:33 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: they were right at the end of kilo, let me find the BP, one sec | 16:33 |
ndipanov | btw - I wanted to ask you - would you mind responding on the state of Xen with device names | 16:33 |
ndipanov | if you have anything to add to what I just said that is | 16:33 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/kilo/implemented/ec2-api-required-additions.html | 16:33 |
ndipanov | (not just - a day or 2 ago) | 16:33 |
ndipanov | nice thanks! | 16:33 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: yeah, I have been sucked into a deploy issue the last few days, so fell off the radar, while alaski is on holiday | 16:34 |
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ndipanov | kk no wories :) | 16:34 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: xen basically has a concept of user device index | 16:34 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: does KVM not support that? | 16:34 |
ndipanov | not sure | 16:35 |
ndipanov | what does that entail? | 16:35 |
superdan | johnthetubaguy: but not specific device names any more, right? like, I can't attach a second device at /dev/xdz right? | 16:35 |
johnthetubaguy | basically when you attach a device you do 0...n | 16:35 |
superdan | ndipanov: we kindof have index I think, but it's not as strict | 16:35 |
johnthetubaguy | superdan: yeah, so I know more about being behind xenapi, where we just set the int | 16:36 |
superdan | ndipanov: eventually there is a discoverable index with pci ids and stuff I guess | 16:36 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah | 16:36 |
johnthetubaguy | so its just pci ids | 16:36 |
johnthetubaguy | the OS is free to give it a different name | 16:36 |
ndipanov | ah-hah | 16:36 |
superdan | right | 16:36 |
johnthetubaguy | HVM vs PV actually get different names too | 16:36 |
johnthetubaguy | (i think) | 16:36 |
johnthetubaguy | basically all you are saying in Xen is the PCI id index | 16:36 |
superdan | that's kindof what we have in libvirt, just less index-based | 16:37 |
superdan | we can infer it from the libvirt xml I think, but it's not very specific, | 16:37 |
ndipanov | and you can skip indexes? | 16:37 |
superdan | and probably gets munged if we attach/detach | 16:37 |
johnthetubaguy | HVM is limited to 0,1,2,3 unless it loads PV tools and detects the others, which is another thing | 16:37 |
johnthetubaguy | superdan: oh... | 16:37 |
johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: so in xen api you can skip device numbers, yes | 16:37 |
ndipanov | hmmm | 16:37 |
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johnthetubaguy | that appears to work fine, from what I hurd | 16:38 |
johnthetubaguy | BobBall_AWOL would be able to give you more information, from a Ctirix/Xen point of view | 16:38 |
superdan | at least in the xen 3 days, blkfront would actually let you call it "/dev/foobar" from the HV side, IIRC | 16:38 |
johnthetubaguy | superdan: oh, I didn't know that, its maybe still true, just hidden for us | 16:39 |
johnthetubaguy | superdan: we mostly run HVM now though, so its all via QEMU device ids I assume | 16:39 |
superdan | yeah, this was well before xenapi, so not surprised if that level of detail is hidden | 16:39 |
superdan | yeah | 16:39 |
johnthetubaguy | superdan: I bet its the PVops kernels that change that, thinking about it | 16:39 |
superdan | ah, this was well before that too :) | 16:40 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, I suspect that stuff got dropped in the transition, but I don't know for sure | 16:40 |
johnthetubaguy | so with KVM, you can't skip device ids, or is that just a libvirt XML limitation? | 16:40 |
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superdan | there are no device ids really | 16:41 |
superdan | well, AFAIK | 16:41 |
superdan | at least in our use of it | 16:41 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, I am thinking this could be a libvirt thingy | 16:41 |
superdan | they're just blocks of xml, which are kindof ordered, but don't really translate super closely to how they might show up | 16:41 |
ndipanov | I think libvirt treats it as a hing | 16:41 |
johnthetubaguy | now technically, they are correct, because the device id is only a hint | 16:41 |
ndipanov | hint* | 16:41 |
ndipanov | for ordering | 16:41 |
superdan | I think you might be able to order the controllers or something, and decide what order they probably show up in | 16:41 |
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superdan | unless we control the guest side, it's all a guess anyway | 16:42 |
superdan | it might be worth just deprecating/removing the device name in a microversion | 16:43 |
johnthetubaguy | right, xenapi gives you user device id... http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/6.5.0/1.0/en_gb/api/?c=VBD | 16:43 |
johnthetubaguy | I am wondering if we have users that bet on this stuff... mostly around rescue images and things | 16:43 |
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johnthetubaguy | its a messy in the xenapi world, we attach swap disks in a predictable device id right now | 16:44 |
superdan | "bet" meaning "think they can depend on it being accurate" ? | 16:45 |
johnthetubaguy | well, tested to work with all rackspace images, for whatever that really means | 16:45 |
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johnthetubaguy | superdan: ndipanov: having said all this, I still like the idea of volume attach only allowing "auto", after some microversion | 16:47 |
superdan | unspecified is auto, but yeah +1 | 16:47 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah true | 16:47 |
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johnthetubaguy | panel | 16:48 |
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johnthetubaguy | hmm, so we do have a guid for this, but it defaults to unspecified, and its hidden in an advanced panel | 16:49 |
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johnthetubaguy | superdan: I wish we could deprecate a bit of the API, then remove it... we could add a deprecated flag, like experimental I guess? | 16:49 |
superdan | I dunno, do we have a way to mark something as experimental in the API itself? | 16:50 |
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superdan | I guess I kinda thought that we were just going to remove things in a microversion and let the deprecation phase be "until we raise the minimum" | 16:51 |
superdan | maybe we should defer to monday and ask sdague and jaypipes what they think | 16:51 |
superdan | (slackers) | 16:51 |
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johnthetubaguy | superdan: yeah, thats neater I guess | 16:52 |
superdan | ndipanov: I replied to you comment on the live migration migration record patch, would love to get some more detail there (or here) so I can make some progress if necessary | 16:52 |
ndipanov | ok | 16:52 |
ndipanov | will look in a but | 16:53 |
ndipanov | bit | 16:53 |
superdan | thganks | 16:53 |
ndipanov | butt I mean | 16:53 |
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jogo | mriedem: yeah I figured johnthetubaguy will do it this time | 16:56 |
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jogo | johnthetubaguy: want to push the priorities patch to nova-specs | 16:57 |
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jogo | johnthetubaguy: and replace http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html | 16:57 |
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johnthetubaguy | jogo: yeah, I need to do that | 16:58 |
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johnthetubaguy | flashgordon: so my plan is to complete this first: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-liberty-summit-action-items | 16:59 |
superdan | johnthetubaguy: can you drop your -2 on this now? | 16:59 |
superdan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154521/ | 16:59 |
johnthetubaguy | flashgordon: our attempts to deploy kilo into our SYD dc while some folks (alaski) were on holiday derailed that, I should be free of that next week | 17:00 |
superdan | I think jerdfeldt's -1 for the changes we discussed is enough to stave off unnecessary reviews | 17:00 |
flashgordon | johnthetubaguy: sounds like a good plan to me | 17:00 |
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flashgordon | johnthetubaguy: defcore FTW? | 17:00 |
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superdan | flashgordon: no, I broke their whole deploy | 17:00 |
superdan | (again) | 17:01 |
johnthetubaguy | flashgordon: yeah, it was superdan, or our qe, or me, depending on how you look at the blame cycle, I did the patches for defcore the other weekend, you know the one just before the deadline | 17:02 |
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johnthetubaguy | more specifically: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186497/ | 17:02 |
johnthetubaguy | superdan: ah, we merged the spec, but not approved the bp, I just sorted that, for the online schema stuff | 17:04 |
superdan | cool | 17:04 |
superdan | too many hoops :( | 17:04 |
johnthetubaguy | superdan: we should probably have a drivers meeting at some point to review blueprint priorities, once we have a few more merged | 17:04 |
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superdan | sure | 17:05 |
johnthetubaguy | superdan: yeah, we need to streamline that! | 17:05 |
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vilobhmm | johnthetubaguy : need 2 min whenever you are free… | 17:05 |
flashgordon | johnthetubaguy: for bug 1459758 is there no upstream test to catch it? | 17:06 |
openstack | bug 1459758 in OpenStack Compute (nova) kilo "inline flavor migration fails with pre-kilo instances" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1459758 - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms) | 17:06 |
superdan | flashgordon: there is now | 17:06 |
johnthetubaguy | vilobhmm: I am about to run off for the weekend, can I help? | 17:06 |
flashgordon | superdan: good | 17:06 |
superdan | flashgordon: grenade kinda can't trigger it because it requires an icehouse instance to fail in kilo | 17:06 |
flashgordon | superdan: yeah I realized that the moment after I asked | 17:07 |
devananda | hey folks - regarding ironic-neutron[-nova] interactions, we had several sessions in YVR on this, but I dont htink any nova cores attended | 17:07 |
superdan | flashgordon: I was thinking I'd talk to sdague on monday about trying to pre-load the db with some icehouse instances that won't boot but that we can at least make sure don't crash things | 17:07 |
vilobhmm | johnthetubaguy : included the docimpact section as we discussed in nova unconference session…if you could remove the X so that others can consider having a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138607/ that would help… | 17:07 |
devananda | there's a bunch of work we're planning for bare metal tenant isolation, and a good chance it's going to require changes in Nova | 17:08 |
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devananda | first meeting is being planned, set for Monday. agenda sketched here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron | 17:08 |
flashgordon | superdan: yeah that is a good idea I like it | 17:08 |
devananda | who would be a good contact on the nova core team to work with on this, so we can minimize // coordinate any changes? | 17:08 |
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johnthetubaguy | vilobhmm: sure, I can remove the -2 on that one now, thanks | 17:09 |
vilobhmm | johnthetubaguy : grt thanks a lot…have a grt weekend! | 17:09 |
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johnthetubaguy | devananda: can our new ironic / nova liaison be sure to let us know whats happening? | 17:10 |
devananda | the initial estimate is that the only changes outside of hte ironic driver will be around the allocate_for_instance call, basically to let ironic handle it instead of Nova | 17:10 |
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johnthetubaguy | devananda: thats probably the bit of code in nova that sucks the most right now... and its scheduled for a rewrite, as a heads up... | 17:11 |
superdan | devananda: so we'll have three ways IPs can be allocated in nova? | 17:11 |
superdan | i.e. nova-net, neutron, or ironic/ | 17:11 |
devananda | johnthetubaguy: the timing of the meeting will make it hard for mrda to attend, unfortunately, though I will ask jlvillal to attend (ohhai :) ) | 17:11 |
devananda | superdan: no -- it'll be nova-net or neutron | 17:11 |
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johnthetubaguy | devananda: cool, will be good to have jlvillal there | 17:11 |
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devananda | superdan: but in some cases, rather than nova calling neutron, nova will no-op and ironic will call neutron | 17:11 |
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superdan | so 2.5 cases? :) | 17:12 |
jroll | devananda: johnthetubaguy: I think we're looking more for review support etc, honestly. and maybe an SME to tell us if we're crazy (we probably are) | 17:12 |
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devananda | what jroll said :) | 17:12 |
johnthetubaguy | jroll: I guess I am wondering how this sits with the cells stuff, but unsure | 17:12 |
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devananda | fwiw, lots of good notes up here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-neutron-ironic | 17:12 |
jroll | johnthetubaguy: it's going to need to work with cells, if that's what you mean | 17:13 |
jroll | johnthetubaguy: especially since we plan to run this one day :) | 17:13 |
jroll | we == rackspace | 17:13 |
johnthetubaguy | right, that and cells (long term) will need a partially setup nic, and it might be the same as what you need here, but unsure | 17:13 |
jroll | ah, interesting, where's laski when we need him | 17:14 |
superdan | monday | 17:14 |
jroll | I know :P | 17:15 |
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johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think it would be good to go through the plan with laski | 17:15 |
johnthetubaguy | oh, so this is very cells related, at a quick glance at the stuff | 17:16 |
johnthetubaguy | jroll: is this because ironic needs to tell neutron exactly which host you are on? currently we just pass in the mac address I guess? | 17:16 |
johnthetubaguy | (we in this case being Nova? at least thats what I think baremetal did) | 17:17 |
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johnthetubaguy | turns out cells is very similar | 17:17 |
ndipanov | superdan, so it has to do with resource accounting because the resource tracker is using the migration object for instances in flight | 17:17 |
superdan | ndipanov: so we can make it exclude live migration typed migration records, yes/ | 17:18 |
ndipanov | re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183331/3/nova/conductor/manager.py | 17:18 |
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ndipanov | well yes but the fact is that we will need to move it anyway once we fix the live mig case | 17:18 |
jroll | johnthetubaguy: more around we can't plumb tenant networks through until ironic is done with it | 17:18 |
ndipanov | right superdan - that's what I meant by "not that much harder" | 17:19 |
superdan | okay, I thought you meant something else | 17:19 |
ndipanov | but I could be wrong :) | 17:19 |
superdan | ndipanov: but I kinda feel like it does belong in the live migration task orchestration, | 17:20 |
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superdan | because it marks the intent to migrate before anything happens or fails | 17:20 |
superdan | like if the compute goes down immediately, we still have a record of the fact that it was attempted | 17:20 |
devananda | johnthetubaguy: ironic needs to move a node between the provisioning network and then into the tenant network when provisioning is done | 17:20 |
ndipanov | superdan, we could do: | 17:20 |
superdan | which is kinda the point of orchestrating the live migration from the conductor, IMHO | 17:20 |
ndipanov | create it here | 17:20 |
ndipanov | flip the flag to: now use it for resource tracking | 17:21 |
devananda | johnthetubaguy: but as it is today, nova wants to put the node on the tenant network *before* ironic has provisioned it | 17:21 |
ndipanov | holding the COMPUTE RESOURCE LOCK | 17:21 |
johnthetubaguy | jroll: devananda: OK, yeah, I think thats the thing I was thinking, just described better | 17:21 |
ndipanov | (we could be doing that for normal migrations too) | 17:21 |
johnthetubaguy | jroll: devananda: anyway, appreciate the heads up on that one, we should catch up next week with alaski_vanc ideally | 17:22 |
superdan | ndipanov: so are you saying exclude these from RT's view for now, and then make RT handle live migrations properly in a separate patch and set state on the migration object inside the semaphore when we do that? | 17:22 |
ndipanov | right that could work | 17:22 |
jroll | johnthetubaguy: yeah, would love a pointer to the plan there | 17:22 |
superdan | ndipanov: okay, I'll look into that and circle back with you next week | 17:22 |
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ndipanov | and leave a comment saying that we plan to use the status flag for making the migration count towards resources | 17:22 |
johnthetubaguy | jroll: me too, I think that is on the big todo list, writing down at least the "rough" plan | 17:22 |
devananda | johnthetubaguy: ack, will do. | 17:22 |
jroll | johnthetubaguy: heh, alright. have a good weekend :) | 17:23 |
ndipanov | also we should probably be setting the flavor too | 17:23 |
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superdan | ndipanov: I actually wanted to remove the flavor ids from that object at some point anyway, since we have them on instance now | 17:23 |
ndipanov | fair but until then you'll need it | 17:24 |
superdan | not if I exclude these from the RT, right? but sure, it's easy to set them | 17:24 |
ndipanov | I guess | 17:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Allow drivers to choose if network plumbed immediately https://review.openstack.org/186855 | 17:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Suppress false alarms from bandit https://review.openstack.org/186805 | 17:52 |
jroll | superdan: if you're curious about this ironic/networks stuff, I think the change can be much simpler, if I can get this new port-create parameter in neutron: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186855/ | 17:56 |
jroll | and just let the driver choose | 17:56 |
jroll | I got a little crazy and touched nova-network, need to fix that | 17:56 |
superdan | okay | 17:56 |
openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Suppress false alarms from bandit https://review.openstack.org/186805 | 17:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: don't add filesystem disk to parallels containers unconditionally https://review.openstack.org/186858 | 17:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Suppress false alarms from bandit https://review.openstack.org/186805 | 18:01 |
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vilobhmm | superdan : thanks for the review…if you have 2 min have a qq | 18:04 |
superdan | vilobhmm: yeah | 18:04 |
vilobhmm | superdan : was going through tempest to see the nova sg db driver coverage and how its done… | 18:05 |
vilobhmm | I couldn't find one | 18:05 |
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superdan | right, I said that in my comments | 18:05 |
vilobhmm | for your concern | 18:05 |
vilobhmm | I won't be doing failure mode testing with this spec | 18:06 |
vilobhmm | will open up another spec with tooz/oslo | 18:06 |
superdan | ..in tempest | 18:06 |
vilobhmm | for doing that | 18:06 |
superdan | that won't cover us | 18:06 |
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vilobhmm | so that tooz takes care of doing failure mode functionality testing | 18:06 |
superdan | we still need to test the nova side of the failure paths | 18:06 |
vilobhmm | for now it will rely on happy path | 18:06 |
superdan | which is why I asked you to add functional tests | 18:07 |
vilobhmm | there is no integration of tempest tooz | 18:07 |
superdan | functional tests can test the failure modes | 18:07 |
vilobhmm | add functional tests in tooz you mean ? | 18:07 |
vilobhmm | if i get it correctly | 18:07 |
superdan | no, in nova | 18:07 |
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vilobhmm | can you give some example as in what you are expecting about the functional tests in nova ? are they covered for the sg db driver for example ? | 18:08 |
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superdan | probably not, but that doesn't really matter | 18:09 |
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superdan | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/test_servers.py | 18:10 |
openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Allow drivers to choose if network plumbed immediately https://review.openstack.org/186855 | 18:10 |
superdan | that is an functional test for instance stuff, which tests a nearly complete stack of nova in a bottle | 18:10 |
superdan | so you'll want to do something like that for testing nova's ability to handle what happens when the tooz sg driver reports a problem | 18:11 |
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vilobhmm | sure…makes sense superdan | 18:12 |
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superdan | you should be able to do what you'd want to do from tempest (if you could shut down a service) from a test like hat | 18:12 |
superdan | *that | 18:12 |
vilobhmm | so I will update the spec that 1. I will add functional test in *Nova* 2. Open a spec with tooz to do more failure mode testing | 18:13 |
vilobhmm | superdan : ^^ | 18:13 |
vilobhmm | will that help to answer your concerns… | 18:13 |
vilobhmm | add functional test in nova for testing nova's ability to handle what happens when the tooz sg driver reports a problem | 18:14 |
superdan | I don't really care about #2 although it sounds like a good thing | 18:14 |
vilobhmm | yep ! | 18:14 |
vilobhmm | alrite then will update the spec | 18:14 |
openstackgerrit | Feodor Tersin proposed openstack/nova: Fix collection of metadata for a snapshot of volume backed instance https://review.openstack.org/170243 | 18:14 |
superdan | vilobhmm: presumably things like join() and leave() can fail as well, right? maybe those can be covered in unit tests, I dunno | 18:14 |
vilobhmm | sure I will do that | 18:14 |
vilobhmm | you r right they can | 18:15 |
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vilobhmm | I have a WIP | 18:15 |
vilobhmm | where I am raising some exceptions if that happen | 18:15 |
vilobhmm | will catch them and report in case of failures | 18:15 |
vilobhmm | superdan : thanks again! | 18:15 |
superdan | np | 18:16 |
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rustlebee | johnthetubaguy: nice input on the neutron AZs spec, thanks | 18:18 |
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jroll | superdan: you gonna want a spec for that networks thing? changes networks and virt driver api | 18:35 |
superdan | jroll: I dunno, it just looks scary to me | 18:36 |
superdan | jroll: you can wait for some others to come along and opine | 18:36 |
openstackgerrit | Vikhyat Umrao proposed openstack/nova: RBD: Reading rbd_default_features from ceph.conf https://review.openstack.org/186537 | 18:36 |
superdan | or maybe write up an email/blog/something about it and try to make the case without one | 18:37 |
jroll | superdan: I'd totally understand, this port-create parameter doesn't exist yet in neutron either :P | 18:37 |
superdan | the absolute change is small, but the impact seems potentially large and I don't really understand what the desire is | 18:37 |
superdan | ah | 18:37 |
superdan | is there a neutron spec for that that might shine some light on it? | 18:37 |
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jroll | there's a meeting monday where we're going to plan exactly what all is going on with this stuff | 18:37 |
jroll | for now there is: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron | 18:38 |
jroll | which links to some summit etherpads | 18:38 |
superdan | probably need a roll up summary and not just notes | 18:38 |
superdan | is there such a summary in any of those pads? | 18:38 |
jroll | not yet | 18:38 |
jroll | there will be, I'll link them in then | 18:38 |
jroll | gotta get neutron folks to buy in on this commit param before I work too hard on this; just a poc for now | 18:39 |
superdan | okay | 18:41 |
superdan | unrelated, but: | 18:41 |
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superdan | jroll: JoshNang: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177470/ <-- wasn't there a bug for this? I don't see it in the review now | 18:41 |
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jroll | superdan: I thought so, let me see | 18:42 |
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JoshNang | superdan: i thought so too, but i can't seem to find it | 18:43 |
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superdan | okay, it would be good to capture the original stack traces somewhere, | 18:44 |
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superdan | because I was just talking to someone with a relatedish problem and couldn't find the original traces to verify if it was related | 18:44 |
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jroll | I should have some gists, at least | 18:44 |
superdan | if you still have them, could one of you open (and close) a bug so that they're in the archives that way at least? .. with a pointer to the review of course | 18:44 |
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JoshNang | definitely | 18:45 |
jroll | sure thing, sec | 18:45 |
JoshNang | i don't think there were any traces, but definitely gists | 18:45 |
superdan | I thought there was one because of expected_task_state mismatch, but perhaps not | 18:46 |
superdan | maybe I'm just building a bridge between the current issue and that one that doesn't exist :) | 18:46 |
jroll | superdan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1460176 | 18:47 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1460176 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Reschedules sometimes do not allocate networks" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 18:47 |
jroll | I can't remember if this was backported or not | 18:47 |
jroll | so it's fix committed for now | 18:47 |
superdan | I backported it | 18:48 |
superdan | thanks for the bug | 18:48 |
jroll | np | 18:48 |
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superdan | apparently I didn't backport it | 18:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] parse timestamp strings before saving to DB https://review.openstack.org/186522 | 18:54 |
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mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186873/ | 18:58 |
mriedem | superdan: ^ | 18:58 |
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superdan | mriedem: can we put that bug in the backport commit message so that we have *some* amount of linkage? | 18:59 |
mriedem | already done | 18:59 |
mriedem | ps32 | 18:59 |
mriedem | ps2 | 18:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Andre Aranha proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add 'passthrough' namespace in flavor extra_specs https://review.openstack.org/186536 | 19:12 |
openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova-specs: Replace Zookeeper, Memcache servicegroup driver with respective Tooz drivers https://review.openstack.org/138607 | 19:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Tolerate iso style timestamps for cells rpc communication https://review.openstack.org/186522 | 19:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Ignore me - trying oslo.* master against Nova unit tests https://review.openstack.org/186413 | 19:36 |
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dimsum__ | melwitt: superdan: the cells iso time problem with oslo.serialization changes...i have a review almost ready - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186522/ - waiting on jobs now | 19:39 |
kashyap | Maybe it's just my ignorance, but the description is so jargon laden (without an immediate example) here for those who don't normally track this area - http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tooz/. | 19:40 |
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mriedem | kashyap: talk to harlowja | 19:42 |
superdan | seems okay to me | 19:42 |
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kashyap | superdan: Maybe for you, as might track this area. But I doubt for many (especially, those who don't spend full time only on OpenStack). | 19:44 |
kashyap | s/as might/as you might | 19:44 |
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mriedem | tooz works with kazoo and zookeeper and tested with zake, what's there not to understand?! | 19:45 |
mriedem | there is a dr seuss joke in there somewhere | 19:45 |
superdan | if you know what zookeeper is then I think it's pretty obvious | 19:45 |
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kashyap | No, top off my head, I only heard the name vaguely. No conceptual definition comes to mind :-) | 19:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: API support for migration_type https://review.openstack.org/183200 | 19:53 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make live migration create a migration object record https://review.openstack.org/183331 | 19:53 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow querying for migrations by source_compute only https://review.openstack.org/183353 | 19:53 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make evacuate leave a record for the source compute host to process https://review.openstack.org/183354 | 19:53 |
dimsum__ | kashyap: this may be a bit more palatable? https://julien.danjou.info/blog/2014/python-distributed-membership-lock-with-tooz | 19:53 |
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harlowja | kashyap perhaps a overview section would help? | 20:07 |
harlowja | or links to those blogs or something | 20:07 |
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harlowja | mriedem also btw, tested with [zookeeper, redis, zake, memcached] in gate, matrix @ https://github.com/openstack/tooz/blob/master/tooz/tests/test_coordination.py#L41 that ensures they all work for the basic api (with indiivudal tests for different backends as needed) | 20:09 |
harlowja | https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L2986 (lots of kinds) | 20:10 |
harlowja | would happily improve the docs, if u guys have ideas | 20:11 |
mriedem | i have 0 ideas | 20:11 |
harlowja | :) | 20:12 |
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bandwidth | someone knows if 'notification_topics' config is deprecated in Kilo? | 20:18 |
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bandwidth | I don't receive notifications anymore | 20:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Jens Rosenboom proposed openstack/nova: Add microversion to allow server search option ip6 for non-admin https://review.openstack.org/179569 | 20:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: bdm: Make sure that delete_on_termination is a boolean https://review.openstack.org/186910 | 20:34 |
openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: snapshot: Copy some missing attrs to the snapshot bdms https://review.openstack.org/186911 | 20:34 |
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kfox1111 | therve: alive? | 20:38 |
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frickler | gate-nova-python34 seems to be constantly failing with some UnicodeDecodeError during installdeps | 20:41 |
mriedem | frickler: link? | 20:41 |
frickler | https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-nova-python34/3/console e.g. | 20:42 |
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frickler | or http://logs.openstack.org/15/186315/4/check/gate-nova-python34/c48b0f5/console.html for a stable one | 20:43 |
superdan | frickler: you know that's non-voting right? | 20:44 |
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frickler | yes, but still someone may want to fix it | 20:45 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/requirements.txt#L46 | 20:45 |
mriedem | we need a py3 requirements file | 20:45 |
mriedem | for the py34 tox job | 20:45 |
mriedem | haypo should have done that when he added the changes to add the non-voting py34 job | 20:45 |
mriedem | or tested it locally before pushing for that | 20:45 |
mriedem | frickler: wanna open a bug? | 20:46 |
bandwidth | anyone knows if there's an issue with the notification_topics | 20:46 |
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frickler | mriedem: no, you can have it, I'm off for today | 20:46 |
mriedem | k | 20:46 |
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mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1460206 | 20:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1460206 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "gate-nova-python34 fails to install rfc3986 due to UnicodeDecodeError" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Jens Rosenboom proposed openstack/nova: Add microversion to allow server search option ip6 for non-admin https://review.openstack.org/179569 | 20:51 |
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mriedem | bandwidth: notifications should still be working in kilo | 21:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/nova-specs: Instance Users for Cloud Interaction https://review.openstack.org/186617 | 21:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Ignore me - trying oslo.* master against Nova unit tests https://review.openstack.org/186413 | 21:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack/nova: Pass locale environment variables through tox https://review.openstack.org/186922 | 21:43 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove hash seed comment from tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/186924 | 21:46 |
mriedem | easy peasy ^ | 21:46 |
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bauwser | mriedem: sorry folk, you can't be in the trivial bug list :) | 21:49 |
mriedem | not a bug | 21:50 |
mriedem | so that's accurate | 21:50 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: disconnect_volume does not return anything https://review.openstack.org/186925 | 21:50 |
bauwser | mriedem: so, trying to joke around friday midnight is just a bad thing :) | 21:50 |
mriedem | sorry, i just take that patch very seriously | 21:51 |
mriedem | *serious | 21:51 |
mriedem | and i'm leaving now, later! | 21:51 |
bauwser | :) | 21:51 |
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vilobhmm | superdan : hey, you around..addressed all of your concerns…https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138607/…please have a look in your free time | 22:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack/nova: Pass locale environment variables through tox https://review.openstack.org/186922 | 22:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/nova: VMware: replace hardcoded strings with constants https://review.openstack.org/185836 | 22:23 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/186935 | 22:26 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/186935 | 22:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack/nova: Force the value of LC_ALL to be en_US.UTF-8 https://review.openstack.org/186922 | 22:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Jay Bryant proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Handle mismatch of volume information between BDM and domain XML https://review.openstack.org/175067 | 23:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed openstack/nova: Build Neutron network data for metadata service https://review.openstack.org/102649 | 23:39 |
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