Friday, 2015-05-29

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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/nova-specs: Instance Users for Cloud Interaction  https://review.openstack.org/18661700:58
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openstackgerritLuo Gangyi proposed openstack/nova: Ensure bridge exists before resuming a VM after an offline snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/14994202:02
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openstackgerritRong Han proposed openstack/nova: Catch NovaException from post_live_migration_at_destination, set instance vm_state error.  https://review.openstack.org/18663403:21
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gabriel-bezerraHi, dansmith. Please, check my comments on https://review.openstack.org/186536 .03:45
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Fix checks of resize down of instance created with volume  https://review.openstack.org/18664303:51
openstackgerritRui Chen proposed openstack/nova: CreateVM supports subnet specified  https://review.openstack.org/18296903:52
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/nova: Add config option to override url for versions  https://review.openstack.org/16026604:03
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/17963806:23
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openstackgerritNoel Nelson Dsouza proposed openstack/nova: Not able to delete Flavors use by the Instances.  https://review.openstack.org/18666507:19
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openstackgerritLuo Gangyi proposed openstack/nova: Ensure bridge exists before resuming a VM after an offline snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/14994208:57
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ndipanovbauwser, morning09:03
bauwserndipanov: morning09:03
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ndipanovso I am reading previous PSs for the RequestSpec and I see I had the same comment on PS 709:04
ndipanovthat we should either not duplicate this data in the request spec or that we should at least provide a clear API for dealing with it09:05
ndipanovthat is not if instance.smth and not request_spec.smth:09:05
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ndipanovso what am I missing here09:05
bauwserndipanov: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145528/7/nova/objects/request_spec.py,cm jaypipes's comment09:05
bauwserndipanov: oh I see your comment actually *facepalm*09:06
ndipanovOK fair enough09:06
ndipanovbut like I said there - due to the _new and _old stuff09:07
ndipanovwe have to decide where these go09:07
bauwserndipanov: I see your problem, it's about dups09:07
ndipanovand for flavors (and likely numa) they go on the instance09:07
ndipanovand we do need them on the compute side09:07
ndipanoveven if we don't need them in the scheduler09:07
ndipanov(I think(09:07
bauwserndipanov: yeah, that hasn't been addressed during the spec review, and we didn't discussed on that at the sched sessions09:07
ndipanovlet me think about it some more09:08
ndipanovbut as it stands now09:08
bauwserndipanov: since I was formerly working on providing the ReqSpec only for the scheduler, we actually didn't need to have those09:08
ndipanovright09:08
bauwserndipanov: since we only needed to have the fields only for the consume_from_instance() method and the filters09:08
ndipanovwe can probably get away with not having it even now09:09
ndipanovbut then we have 2 places09:09
ndipanovwhich is what bothers me09:09
bauwserndipanov: but since now we're planning to use the RequestSpec object for more than the scheduler, maybe we should discuss on your point09:09
bauwserndipanov: yeah agreed09:09
ndipanovyes09:09
ndipanovthat is exactly what I'm saying09:09
bauwserndipanov: I think we should discuss that with the other people09:09
ndipanovsorry if I wasn't clear :(09:09
ndipanovyes :)09:09
bauwserndipanov: no no, that's fair09:09
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bauwserndipanov: I mean, I totally understand your point09:09
bauwserndipanov: honestly, I think it's a good point09:10
bauwserndipanov: since changing objects fields is really difficult09:10
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ndipanovif the answer is: we add methods to the instance to deal with it like instance.whats_my_flavor(request_spec)09:10
ndipanovthat's fine too09:10
bauwserndipanov: so I want to make sure the object is good enough for all09:10
ndipanovbut then we should at least sketch out that API09:10
bauwserndipanov: yeah...09:11
bauwserndipanov: on my side, I'll work on the left patches for that, since I'll create a .to_legacy_dicts() method for the object09:11
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ndipanovlet's see with dansmith and jay later09:11
bauwserndipanov: so the scheduler manager will just take the ReqSpec object and backports it to filt_props and req_spec dicts, until we change the filters09:12
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ndipanovbauwser, ok but I had a change up that changes filter and it will not be that different for your case09:12
bauwserndipanov: so, I mean, I'm not that worried on what would be the object, since for the moment, I will just use the helper methods for primitiving/unprimitiving the object09:12
ndipanovso it's one patch09:12
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bauwserndipanov: link ?09:13
ndipanovlooking09:13
bauwserndipanov: okay09:13
ndipanovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/160483/09:13
bauwserndipanov: ah this one09:14
ndipanovso this was more aggressive than what you want to do09:14
ndipanovthis is the other way around09:14
ndipanovif we get the old one - upgrade it09:14
bauwserndipanov: well, I have 2 workitems09:15
bauwserndipanov: first, I'm changing the interface only09:15
bauwserndipanov: give it a ReqSpec object using a new API method, and then call the existing FilterScheduler driver by primitiving the ReqSpec to (req_spec, filt_props) dicts09:15
ndipanovyeah speaking from the experience with block devices - if it;s not too difficult - get rid of the legacy asap09:16
bauwserndipanov: secondly, I'll change the drivers and the filters to take a ReqSpec object instead of a filter_props dict09:16
ndipanovyes09:16
ndipanovso maybe the inverse approach might work too09:16
ndipanovchange the scheduler to use internally the new stuff09:17
ndipanovand migrate the code09:17
ndipanovand then start sending it in a next patch09:17
ndipanovhaving 2 formats just sucks09:17
bauwserndipanov: fair point, it was just about giving the API version bump sooner than later09:17
ndipanovtrust me :)09:17
bauwserndipanov: I'm not opiniated on that one09:18
bauwserndipanov: I mean, for the moment, I'm just writing down the objects and their primitiving helpers09:18
ndipanovright09:18
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bauwserndipanov: but indeed, you're right, using the ReqSpec object directly in the scheduler allows to prevent to call the primitiving methods with the risk that the objectify/dictify calls are not idempotenty09:19
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bauwserndipanov: for example, a stringified int is not dictified back to a string but rather to an integer09:20
bauwserndipanov: which is errorprone09:21
bauwserndipanov: okay, you got me opiniated now, I'll hydrate the ReqSpec on the Scheduler first, and then only after that, create the API call09:21
ndipanovbauwser, I think it will be less work09:22
bauwserndipanov: not really, rather more secure09:22
ndipanov(source: I did the oposite with BDMs and it sucked :))09:23
ndipanovwell less work to fix all the bugs :D09:23
bauwserLOL09:23
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: make _create_domain to return a Guest object  https://review.openstack.org/18218509:24
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce method poweroff to Guest object  https://review.openstack.org/18219409:24
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce method resume to Guest object  https://review.openstack.org/18219509:24
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce a Guest to wrap around virConnect  https://review.openstack.org/17431309:24
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce method get_guest to Host object  https://review.openstack.org/18196909:24
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alex_xugilliard: do we want api meeting today?09:43
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alex_xunot sure all the people back to work yet09:47
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johnthetubaguyalex_xu: I guess the lack of a response means no meeting, I should get back to this etherpad of doom!09:54
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andrearosaalex_xu: gilliard is out of office today, not sure he will see your message09:54
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Create instance_extra entry if it doesn't update  https://review.openstack.org/18649709:55
alex_xuandrearosa: thanks!09:55
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: let's cancel the meeting09:55
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: I am cool with that09:56
bauwseralex_xu: when are usually running the API meeting ?09:56
bauwser1200UTC ?09:56
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: I am not sure I will be able to attend all the time, but happy to see the effort going well, I will probably just jump in to ask questions, etc09:56
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alex_xujohnthetubaguy: ok, got it. I also hope get some feedback for the etherpad. Also confuse what we need to do for doc. I guess sdague know that. But I didn't see he active this week09:59
alex_xubauwser: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaAPI09:59
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: ah the docs are tricky, I think anne_gentle is wanting to help out with that stuff10:00
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: yea, I didn't saw anne online also10:00
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: she is in texas10:01
bauwseralex_xu: cool thanks10:01
alex_xubauwser: we won't have meeting this week, I saw most api team member didn't around10:02
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alex_xubauwser: anything you need help?10:02
bauwseralex_xu: that's what I understood10:02
bauwseralex_xu: not really, just jumping in10:02
bauwseralex_xu: since I'm interested in knowing your progress10:03
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alex_xubauwser: ok, we just have working list yet, didn't have too much progress yet :)10:05
alex_xubauwser: if you interesting https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-api-working-list :)10:05
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bauwseralex_xu: well, I'm already kinda busy with the sched and cells stuff + bugs, but I'll see if I can help10:06
PaulMurrayalex_xu, johnthetubaguy : gilliard is on holiday today10:07
bauwseralex_xu: like I said, it's more about making sure that I'm not reviewing something against your opinions, guys10:07
bauwserPaulMurray: damn English people with all their vacation !10:07
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mdboothbauwser: English people take holidays, not vacations ;)10:08
johnthetubaguymdbooth: :D10:08
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] parse timestamp strings before saving to DB  https://review.openstack.org/18652210:08
alex_xubauwser: I see, I'm also interesting  sched, let see if i can help review also :)10:08
PaulMurraybauwser, I still need a decent friday nick - I have no imagination - maybe I should start a thread on the dev list to propose one10:09
alex_xuPaulMurray: thanks10:09
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Ignore me - trying oslo.* master against Nova unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/18641310:09
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bauwserPaulMurray: doodle it rather ;)10:09
andrearosaPaulMurray: on friday we could swap our nicknames10:10
johnthetubaguybauwser: don't french types just have the whole summer off work, or is that just a crazy rumor started by the english?10:10
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: shhhhht10:10
johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: MurrayMints?10:10
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: technically France is just shutdown by August :)10:10
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bauwserPaulMurray: PaulPosition ?10:11
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johnthetubaguybauwser: yeah, lol10:11
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bauwserthe real story is that's more true on May :)10:12
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PaulMurraymatt suggested something to do with dominos - after he found a story about a Paul Murray who had a complaint about dominos pizzas10:13
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PaulMurraymaybe something base on cheeky on cheeky nandos: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cheeky+Nandos&defid=827345610:15
bauwserPaulMurray: that's exactly where you lost me :)10:15
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bauwserat least, my own Friday nick is even registered :)10:16
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PaulMurrayits something gilliard was going on about a couple of days ago (I'm glad he has gone on holiday)10:16
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PaulMurrayJohnTubaNotSousa, <--- ??10:18
PaulMurrayJohnTubaNotSousa, being serious for a moment - there was talk about hosting a Muppet midcycle in europe yesterday10:19
bauwserwould be end of January10:19
PaulMurrayJohnTubaNotSousa, I can host that - what do you need from me10:19
PaulMurrayJohnTubaNotSousa, to propose it10:19
bauwserPaulMurray: I was about to contact some Mirantis or HP folks in Grenoble too10:19
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JohnTubaNotSousaPaulMurray: that sounds good10:20
JohnTubaNotSousaPaulMurray: I guess its not too bad to get heathrow -> bristol right?10:20
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PaulMurrayJohnTubaNotSousa, not too bad at all - a lot of people fly to Bristol too10:20
PaulMurraybauwser, you can go direct from Grenoble->Bristol in winter10:21
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bauwserPaulMurray: oh gosh I know...10:21
PaulMurraybauwser, I expect its a regular holiday destination for you Grenoblites10:21
PaulMurray:)10:21
bauwserPaulMurray: I'm seeing lots of English packers coming in by winter on the slopes kinda ebriated10:22
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JohnTubaNotSousaPaulMurray: ah yes, direct from paddington, that is really quite easy10:22
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JohnTubaNotSousaPaulMurray: that sounds like a good plan, though, we should write that down somewhare10:24
JohnTubaNotSousawhere10:24
PaulMurrayJohnTubaNotSousa, at our office BS34 8QZ10:25
bauwserat least LHR sounds a good hub10:25
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bauwserthat's the main problem I have with LYS which is not that good10:25
bauwserand GVA is not that good too10:26
bauwserso yeah, having <anywhere> -> LHR -> Bristol sounds decent10:26
JohnTubaNotSousabauwser: true, although probably a quick hop from paris10:26
JohnTubaNotSousayeah, most places in the US are two hops to LHR, then train up to bristol10:27
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bauwserJohnTubaNotSousa: as said PaulMurray there is even a GNB -> Bristol so...10:27
JohnTubaNotSousaright, lots of options10:27
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johnthetubaguyOk, so my nic was annoying me10:27
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bauwserat least, that's good to know for people who want to ski by this time, they could also stop at Grenoble :)10:28
bauwserlike we did with the Ironic folks :)10:28
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy bauwser  chauffeur driven car from LHR is not too costly for groups - we usually do that returning home10:28
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johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: ah, very true, we could car pool for that10:29
* bauwser needs a map for checking where Bristol is *ashamed*10:29
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andrearosafrom US I think one other good option is to flight to Amsterdam then Amsterdam -> Bristol10:38
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bauwserandrearosa: that depends on the US company10:39
bauwserandrearosa: if that's Delta, it's the same as for AirFrance/KLM with their hub in AMS or CDG10:40
bauwserandrearosa: PaulMurray: I actually checked the routes for Bristol, and there are a very few from LYS (and none from GNB)10:41
bauwserPaulMurray: andrearosa: how could we reach Bristol easily from London ?10:41
mdboothTrain or car are both easy10:42
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andrearosamdbooth: what mdbooth said10:42
mdboothBristol has pretty good connections for a small city10:42
bauwserokay I see there are direct flights but only on Saturdays...10:44
mdboothIf you're weighing options, probably worth also looking at bhx airport10:47
mdbooth(my local)10:47
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bauwsermdbooth: will consider that :)10:52
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PaulMurraybauwser, LHR->bristol, by  coach (direct), by train express to paddington every 15 mins, then change and direct to london, or best of all, by chauffeur driven luxury car (similar to train fare if there are a few of you)10:58
PaulMurraybauwser, or if you intend to rent a car.... then by car10:58
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bauwserPaulMurray: ack10:59
PaulMurrayI think there are more flights from GVA-BRS - if you want to take your chances in the easyjet scrum in Geneva10:59
PaulMurraybauwser, oops, the train directions should read: express to paddington (in london) then change and direct to BRISTOL - :)11:01
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Use datastore copy when the image is already in vSphere  https://review.openstack.org/18671611:18
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openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Make ComputeNode.service_id nullable to match db schema  https://review.openstack.org/16928411:48
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openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Implement server instance tagging  https://review.openstack.org/17711211:54
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openstackgerritAndre Aranha proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add 'passthrough' namespace in flavor extra_specs  https://review.openstack.org/18653611:59
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sahidndipanov: i'm reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185591/12:03
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sahidhum... forget about me12:04
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openstackgerritNoel Nelson Dsouza proposed openstack/nova: Not able to delete Flavors used by the Instances.  https://review.openstack.org/18666512:11
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openstackgerritAndre Aranha proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add 'passthrough' namespace in flavor extra_specs  https://review.openstack.org/18653612:20
openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Avoid querying for Service in resource tracker  https://review.openstack.org/16928812:22
openstackgerritVipin Balachandran proposed openstack/nova: Detach volume while handling Cinder attach failure  https://review.openstack.org/18674212:23
ndipanovsahid, what's thew problem with it?12:27
ndipanovit's just a backport12:27
sahidndipanov: np i made mistake12:29
ndipanovsahid, :)12:29
openstackgerritAlexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Do not cache number of CPUs of the hypervisor  https://review.openstack.org/18674612:32
danpbndipanov: i'm trying to understand BDM and hotplug12:32
danpbndipanov: when i run "nova volume-attach cirros1 28be473f-0e98-40f1-a032-fe91da15495b auto"12:33
danpbndipanov: the nova.compute.manager.attach_volume() call gets invoked with a BDM with device_path=/dev/hdb12:33
danpbndipanov: i'm trying to understand which code is turning  'auto' in to /dev/hdb12:33
danpbas that's clearly happening somewhere before  attach_volume() gets invoked on the manager12:34
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openstackgerritVipin Balachandran proposed openstack/nova: Detach volume while handling Cinder attach failure  https://review.openstack.org/18674212:41
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johnthetubaguydanpb: doesn't that translation code happen in the API layer, based on the BDMs and some horrid hacks?12:44
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ndipanovdanpb, hmmm12:52
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ndipanovdan, so attach volume calls out to the manager to do reserve_device_name no?12:52
danpbah ha, its done in reserve_block_device_name12:52
danpbyes, just found it12:52
ndipanovdanpb, that is12:52
ndipanovthat's what my patch series that's up now fixes for libvirt12:53
danpbfixes it in what way ?12:53
ndipanovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/180638/12:53
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danpbwhat's currently broken about it12:54
ndipanovthat it will use the generic code which may not be correct for libvirt12:54
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danpboh i see the bug now12:54
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Add tox target for bandit security checks  https://review.openstack.org/18675212:58
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openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Make ComputeNode.service_id nullable to match db schema  https://review.openstack.org/16928413:21
openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove/deprecate unused parts of the compute node object  https://review.openstack.org/18675713:21
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openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Avoid querying for Service in resource tracker  https://review.openstack.org/16928813:26
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mdboothAre the contents of connection_info documented anywhere?13:43
mriedemmdbooth: doubtful13:43
mdboothYeah, seems a bit wild west13:44
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mriedemthere are some things that i think you can expect, like 'data' and some things in that13:44
mriedemwould be nice to make that an object rather than a serialized dict passed around13:44
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mdboothActually it's the contents of data I'm interested in13:45
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mdboothThis looks wrong to me:13:45
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mdbooth        return zip(iscsi_properties.get('target_portals', []),13:45
mdbooth                   iscsi_properties.get('target_iqns', []),13:45
mdbooth                   iscsi_properties.get('target_luns', []))13:45
mdboothBut only because I wouldn't necessarily expect those 3 things to have the same length13:46
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mriedemndipanov: are you around?13:47
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ndipanovmriedem, sup13:54
mriedemndipanov: remember the other day i was asking about that live migrate bug where there is a volume attached and live migration fails, and the bug said that the connection_info in the block_device_mapping table changed in pre_live_migration, but rollback wasn't cleaning that up?13:55
dave-mcnallyany kindly soul want to approve a change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176805/13:55
mriedemso if you reboot the instance after the live migrate failure, it tries connecting to the wrong bdm13:55
mriedemsomething like that13:55
ndipanovmriedem, yes13:55
ndipanovI think it's because the new conn info is not saved13:55
mriedemndipanov: you said there was something in the libvirt driver pre_live_migration() method that actually modified the connection_info data but I wasn't seeing that - i see it connect to the volume in libvirt.volumes and connection_info is mutated there, but i dont' see that getting put back into the bdm object and saved to the db13:56
ndipanovmriedem, exactly13:56
ndipanovconnect_volume of the volume driver modifies it13:56
ndipanovand then it never gets saved13:56
mriedemndipanov: the only thing i saw was the connection_info stuff was returned to compute manager in pre_live_migrate_data/result (whatever that's called) which goes down to live migrate which changes the domain xml with it13:56
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ndipanovright but never saves it13:57
mriedemndipanov: oh, i thought the issue was the contents were changed, written to the db, but not backed out13:57
mriedemok ok13:57
ndipanovlet me find the exact line13:57
mriedemand libvirt.volumes.connect_volume does return the connection_info, but pre_live_migration() doesn't do anything with it13:57
mriedemto store it back on the bdm13:57
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ndipanovyes13:58
ndipanovand then once you reboot the instance it is read from the db and boom13:58
mriedemwe probably wouldn't want to do that in the virt driver anyway, but we get the data back in the compute manager, we could save it there13:58
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mriedemb/c connect_volume actually changed the physical connections13:58
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mriedemok, this is at least more clear now13:59
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mriedemndipanov: i noticed you also had the red hat bugzilla for the same cve :)13:59
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mriedemi noticed after we had been talking about it - coincidentally13:59
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ndipanovmriedem, well we can do it in the driver as well that's why we have objects wrapped13:59
ndipanovmriedem, oh?14:00
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ndipanovlink pls14:00
mriedemsec14:00
mriedemyeah we could do it in the virt driver too...i was wondering more about other virt drivers that support live migrate with attached volumes14:00
mriedemndipanov: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=120531414:01
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1205314 in openstack-nova "CVE-2015-2687 openstack-nova: information leak when live-migration failed [fedora-all]" [Low,New] - Assigned to ndipanov14:01
ndipanovand it's even assigned to me - lovely :)14:01
mriedemthere were 2 bugs on this issue, i duped one against the other since the first one (opened against havana) had more details and the security team comments on it14:01
mriedemyeah, heh :L)14:01
mriedemi added the lp and cve mailing list links in there14:02
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mriedemi got a bit confused in the lp bug and mailing list on the cve14:02
mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/141957714:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1419577 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "when live-migrate failed, lun-id couldn't be rollback in havana" [High,Confirmed]14:02
mriedemb/c this was mentioned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118581/14:03
mriedemi think as a means of making live migrate fail - so that was fixed back to stable/icehouse14:03
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mriedemwe backported https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118581/ to our internal havana since we still support that, just in case14:03
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mriedembut the security team was saying, this is a bug, sure, with security implications but the attacker has to have root access on your system to exploit the live migration failures as noted in the bug, like taking down your network or accessing the nova db, so it wasn't as critical14:04
mriedemafter havana that is14:04
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mriedemand there were generic comments in the LP bug like, 'well, live migrate sucked in havana, so yeah, it will fail a lot and you'll have this issue', that was pretty vague14:05
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mriedemndipanov: anyway, i'll update the lp bug with some notes and maybe work on some poc changes to hack around this14:09
mriedemsomething that's backportable14:09
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danpbmriedem: if you have to have root on the compute node to exploit it, then its not a security bug14:11
mriedemdanpb: that's what i gathered from the bug report above, but it was a bit vague like i said,14:11
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mriedemdanpb: it sounded like the security team was basing that on what the reporter was giving as examples of how to recreate the bug,14:12
danpbbecause after all if you have root, you can do whatever you want with anything14:12
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mriedemdanpb: i.e. setup vm on host A, take down network on host B, live migrate to host B14:12
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openstackgerritVipin Balachandran proposed openstack/nova: Detach and terminate conn if Cinder attach fails  https://review.openstack.org/18674214:14
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mriedemdanpb: like this comment is a bit vague https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1419577/comments/914:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1419577 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "when live-migrate failed, lun-id couldn't be rollback in havana" [High,Confirmed]14:16
mriedem"Agree that it's a vulnerability in Havana (since live-migration fails so often there)."14:17
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mriedemand then eventually it was just, 'but havana is eol now so whatevs'14:17
claudiubmriedem: hello. Can you +2 this commit again? Last night it failed because of unused imports.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181916/ Ty!14:17
mriedemclaudiub: looking14:18
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mriedemdanpb: does having a cve attached to a bug make it a security bug, or is that just some other implication/classification since the openstack security advisory is marked as won't fix?14:20
mriedemi'm not really sure how all the security stuff works14:20
openstackgerritVipin Balachandran proposed openstack/nova: Detach and terminate conn if Cinder attach fails  https://review.openstack.org/18674214:20
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erwmriedem: if something has a (valid) CVE that means that someone felt it was/is a vulnerability and applied for the CVE, or was part of an organization that can assign CVEs directly (RedHat can do this)14:21
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mriedemsomeone from red hat did request the cve, at least for havana http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q1/98114:22
mriedembut when they requested it, havana was already eol upstream14:22
mriedemalthough red hat still supports it, which i guess is what the cve request was for14:22
danpbpresumably that's becasue of a product stream still maintained14:22
danpbits pretty common for RH to do CVEs for stuff upstream considers dead14:22
erwmriedem: CVEs can be invalidated, however. If there is an OpenStack Security Advisory indicating it is a WontFix then it means that either the vulnerability is acknowledged but is not being fixed because that code is unsupported... or if the code is supported, that the CVE is invalid14:23
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erwdanpb: yep!14:25
mriedemso i guess http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q1/1006 is saying it's considered a valid cve14:26
mriedem"There is at least one person (hfamily15) who believes it is a vulnerability within all of these releases" - that was the person that reported the bug originally14:26
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mriedemit's just confusing to me when ^ says, yeah this is a valid security issue in icehouse/juno but the lp bug says, won't fix14:26
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kashyapmriedem: Maybe somebody just has to speak up, if they think it's not valid? Given: "nobody has indicated that it must not be considered a vulnerability within any of these releases.14:30
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: network: fix instance cache refresh for empty list  https://review.openstack.org/18631514:30
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mriedemkashyap: i think ttx did here https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1419577/comments/914:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1419577 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "when live-migrate failed, lun-id couldn't be rollback in havana" [High,Confirmed]14:31
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mriedem"I wouldn't consider it a vulnerability in Icehouse/Juno, since you can't trigger live migration failure without administrative or physical access to the machines."14:31
mriedemanyway, probably doesn't matter at this point, i'm just confused by the process a bit14:32
kashyapmriedem: Yeah, that looks pretty clear.14:32
mriedembknudson handles this for my team so i usually have him translate for me14:33
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: network: fix instance cache refresh for empty list  https://review.openstack.org/18631514:34
mriedemfyi for red hat stable maintainers http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/065144.html14:34
mriedemwe're talking about no longer doing point releases on stable and everyone in the session at summit said that was fine, but there was only 1 or 2 red hat guys in the room14:34
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gabriel-bezerrajohnthetubaguy: John Garbutt?14:38
johnthetubaguygabriel-bezerra: yes thats me14:38
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johnthetubaguygabriel-bezerra: can I help?14:39
gabriel-bezerrajohnthetubaguy: I'd like to discuss that passthrough spec with you and dansmith later. I'll have a long meeting now and so can't do it right now14:39
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johnthetubaguygabriel-bezerra: that should be possible, but I am in the UK, in terms of time planning14:39
gabriel-bezerrajohnthetubaguy: ok, I'll keep that in mind.14:40
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gabriel-bezerrajohnthetubaguy: if we cannot make it today, is Monday good by you?14:40
johnthetubaguygabriel-bezerra: yep14:40
gabriel-bezerrajohnthetubaguy: good. thanks.14:41
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PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, ndipanov looking for a second +2/+W on this as the owner is going on 2 months of leave in an hour - any takers? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17680514:45
ndipanovPaulMurray, otp but can take a look later14:45
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PaulMurrayndipanov, thanks - I can look after it if need be but rather be able to forget about it14:46
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claudiubalaski_vanc: ping14:52
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PaulMurraythanks johnthetubaguy15:08
PaulMurrayndipanov, johnthetubaguy did the review above, thanks for offering15:08
johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: cool, but given the gate is unhappy, it might need some manual pushing still, let me know if you need +2s +W etc though15:09
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PaulMurraythanks15:09
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ndipanovPaulMurray, that's why he's the ptl :)15:13
mriedemgate is unhappy?15:13
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kfox1111I sumitted the first stab at a spec for the Instance Users thingy we talked about at the summit.15:14
kfox1111https://review.openstack.org/18661715:15
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kfox1111I also want to add two more related features, but not sure it belongs in that spec or another one. IE, creating the server shutoff, and precreating the instance user. Should I put those both in the same spec or break them out?15:16
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mdrabeCan I get a core to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184282/ pretty please15:20
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bauwsermdrabe: adding your change to the trivial bug list15:28
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kfox1111do I need to do anything to get my spec on the agenda for review?15:31
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kfox1111I'm expecting it to be somewhat controversial.15:31
bauwserkfox1111: before that, could you please fix the Jenkins issues ?15:32
bauwseralso the next meeting on next Thursday, which leaves plenty of time for getting your first reviews :)15:33
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: could you please remind me when the spec review day is ?15:34
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mriedembauwser: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova15:35
mriedemTODO - spec review day, Friday, June 12th?15:35
russellbfyi, Neutron has a spec up for adding availability zone, and we need to make sure it makes some sane sense along side nova's same concept.  The spec still needs a good bit of work IMO, but in case anyone wants to follow/comment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16961215:37
bauwsermriedem: thanks, was lazy :/15:37
bauwserrussellb: I have to go in 2 mins but the Nova AZs are controversial now15:38
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mriedemrussellb: huh, that's probably why sam morrisson's change last week to change az for neutron ports was going bonkers15:38
mriedem:)15:38
kashyapWill this be rolled into a Gerrit review (IIRC, I noticed one for last cycle)? Also, it's all mostly broken chunks of bullet points. Will proper additional context be added by those who were present in person? - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-liberty-priorities15:38
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/181776/15:38
mriedemkashyap: it could be, jogo did it for kilo i think15:39
mriedemsomeone just has to step up and push the patch15:39
kashyapSomeone present in person would be ideal, due to the context they have.15:39
openstackgerritEarle F. Philhower, III proposed openstack/nova: Add support for HGST Solutions volumes to libvirt  https://review.openstack.org/18659415:40
mriedemepic name ^15:40
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russellbmriedem: heh, yeah, it's not used by neutron today (and if it's by some backend using that value, that's an interesting hack i didn't know about)15:40
kfox1111bauwser: yeah, its on my todo list for this morning.15:40
russellbbauwser: what's not controversial?  :)15:41
russellbeven glance is full of controversy these days15:41
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bauwserrustlebee: full of wisdom https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-scheduler-in-liberty15:42
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bauwserrustlebee: L57 and L9415:42
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bauwserrustlebee: nothing really agreed yet15:43
mriedemmdrabe: approved15:43
rustlebeebauwser: nothing seems to fundamentally change the concept, more just how it's implemented internally15:43
rustlebeefrom a quick read anyway15:43
bauwserrustlebee: the spec is a little bumpy on that15:44
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bauwserrustlebee: that's why I called it 'controversial'15:44
rustlebeegotcha15:44
bauwseranyway, got to go !15:44
rustlebeeo/15:44
* rustlebee hasn't been rustlebee in a long time ...15:44
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mdrabemriedem: ty15:45
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Add tox target for bandit security checks  https://review.openstack.org/18675215:50
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Suppress false alarms from bandit  https://review.openstack.org/18680515:50
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add common function for v2.1 API flavor_get.  https://review.openstack.org/13656815:55
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add common function for v2 API flavor_get.  https://review.openstack.org/13656715:55
kfox1111oh... yeah... How do you put json in a spec without tox blowing up over it?15:56
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mriedemkfox1111: very carefully16:03
mriedemlet me find an example16:03
mriedemkfox1111: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168996/16:03
mriedemdo it in a code block16:04
mriedem::16:04
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kfox1111cool. thanks. :)16:06
johnthetubaguybauwser: yeah, I will put those dates up somewhere official soon, and get a thread out the the ML16:07
kfox1111that seemed to do the trick.16:08
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kfox1111arg... its still flipping out a little bit about a json array. :/16:14
kfox1111<string>:96: (ERROR/3) Unknown interpreted text role "ref".16:14
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kfox1111I guess that part of the example is really unimportant. I'll just nuke it.16:15
johnthetubaguyrustlebee: thats an interesting spec about AZs and neutron16:16
johnthetubaguyrustlebee: we should get alaski_vanc to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169612 from a cells point of view, its getting very close to what cells is wanting to do16:16
kfox1111are there any plans for quotas per AZ or Flavor?16:16
kfox1111we really really could use them. :/16:16
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rustlebeejohnthetubaguy: cool16:17
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/nova-specs: Instance Users for Cloud Interaction  https://review.openstack.org/18661716:18
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ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, question16:30
johnthetubaguyndipanov: sure16:30
ndipanovis ec2 API now exclusively worked on at stackforge16:30
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ndipanovsince I think I still see it in the nova tree16:31
ndipanovis it being synced or what?16:31
johnthetubaguyndipanov: yeah, its deprecated, and staying in tree16:31
johnthetubaguyndipanov: its totally separate different code, as I understand it16:31
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ndipanovso bug fixes go there right?16:31
johnthetubaguyndipanov: the stackforge one is a nova api proxy16:31
ndipanovo IC16:31
johnthetubaguyndipanov: bugs fixes are a tricky one...16:32
johnthetubaguyndipanov: I think we would accept regressions, for sure16:32
ndipanovso it's completely different codebase that actually proxies to a running nova api16:32
johnthetubaguyndipanov: but "fixes" that amount to adding features are a no16:32
johnthetubaguyndipanov: yeah, we added nova APIs for them, to make that work16:32
johnthetubaguyndipanov: hence the debate about the device name16:33
ndipanovoh - which ones?16:33
johnthetubaguyndipanov: they were right at the end of kilo, let me find the BP, one sec16:33
ndipanovbtw - I wanted to ask you - would you mind responding on the state of Xen with device names16:33
ndipanovif you have anything to add to what I just said that is16:33
johnthetubaguyndipanov: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/kilo/implemented/ec2-api-required-additions.html16:33
ndipanov(not just - a day or 2 ago)16:33
ndipanovnice thanks!16:33
johnthetubaguyndipanov: yeah, I have been sucked into a deploy issue the last few days, so fell off the radar, while alaski is on holiday16:34
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ndipanovkk no wories :)16:34
johnthetubaguyndipanov: xen basically has a concept of user device index16:34
johnthetubaguyndipanov: does KVM not support that?16:34
ndipanovnot sure16:35
ndipanovwhat does that entail?16:35
superdanjohnthetubaguy: but not specific device names any more, right? like, I can't attach a second device at /dev/xdz right?16:35
johnthetubaguybasically when you attach a device you do 0...n16:35
superdanndipanov: we kindof have index I think, but it's not as strict16:35
johnthetubaguysuperdan: yeah, so I know more about being behind xenapi, where we just set the int16:36
superdanndipanov: eventually there is a discoverable index with pci ids and stuff I guess16:36
johnthetubaguyyeah16:36
johnthetubaguyso its just pci ids16:36
johnthetubaguythe OS is free to give it a different name16:36
ndipanovah-hah16:36
superdanright16:36
johnthetubaguyHVM vs PV actually get different names too16:36
johnthetubaguy(i think)16:36
johnthetubaguybasically all you are saying in Xen is the PCI id index16:36
superdanthat's kindof what we have in libvirt, just less index-based16:37
superdanwe can infer it from the libvirt xml I think, but it's not very specific,16:37
ndipanovand you can skip indexes?16:37
superdanand probably gets munged if we attach/detach16:37
johnthetubaguyHVM is limited to 0,1,2,3 unless it loads PV tools and detects the others, which is another thing16:37
johnthetubaguysuperdan: oh...16:37
johnthetubaguyndipanov: so in xen api you can skip device numbers, yes16:37
ndipanovhmmm16:37
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johnthetubaguythat appears to work fine, from what I hurd16:38
johnthetubaguyBobBall_AWOL would be able to give you more information, from a Ctirix/Xen point of view16:38
superdanat least in the xen 3 days, blkfront would actually let you call it "/dev/foobar" from the HV side, IIRC16:38
johnthetubaguysuperdan: oh, I didn't know that, its maybe still true, just hidden for us16:39
johnthetubaguysuperdan: we mostly run HVM now though, so its all via QEMU device ids I assume16:39
superdanyeah, this was well before xenapi, so not surprised if that level of detail is hidden16:39
superdanyeah16:39
johnthetubaguysuperdan: I bet its the PVops kernels that change that, thinking about it16:39
superdanah, this was well before that too :)16:40
johnthetubaguyyeah, I suspect that stuff got dropped in the transition, but I don't know for sure16:40
johnthetubaguyso with KVM, you can't skip device ids, or is that just a libvirt XML limitation?16:40
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superdanthere are no device ids really16:41
superdanwell, AFAIK16:41
superdanat least in our use of it16:41
johnthetubaguyyeah, I am thinking this could be a libvirt thingy16:41
superdanthey're just blocks of xml, which are kindof ordered, but don't really translate super closely to how they might show up16:41
ndipanovI think libvirt treats it as a hing16:41
johnthetubaguynow technically, they are correct, because the device id is only a hint16:41
ndipanovhint*16:41
ndipanovfor ordering16:41
superdanI think you might be able to order the controllers or something, and decide what order they probably show up in16:41
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superdanunless we control the guest side, it's all a guess anyway16:42
superdanit might be worth just deprecating/removing the device name in a microversion16:43
johnthetubaguyright, xenapi gives you user device id... http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/6.5.0/1.0/en_gb/api/?c=VBD16:43
johnthetubaguyI am wondering if we have users that bet on this stuff... mostly around rescue images and things16:43
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johnthetubaguyits a messy in the xenapi world, we attach swap disks in a predictable device id right now16:44
superdan"bet" meaning "think they can depend on it being accurate" ?16:45
johnthetubaguywell, tested to work with all rackspace images, for whatever that really means16:45
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johnthetubaguysuperdan: ndipanov: having said all this, I still like the idea of volume attach only allowing "auto", after some microversion16:47
superdanunspecified is auto, but yeah +116:47
johnthetubaguyyeah true16:47
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johnthetubaguypanel16:48
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johnthetubaguyhmm, so we do have a guid for this, but it defaults to unspecified, and its hidden in an advanced panel16:49
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johnthetubaguysuperdan: I wish we could deprecate a bit of the API, then remove it... we could add a deprecated flag, like experimental I guess?16:49
superdanI dunno, do we have a way to mark something as experimental in the API itself?16:50
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superdanI guess I kinda thought that we were just going to remove things in a microversion and let the deprecation phase be "until we raise the minimum"16:51
superdanmaybe we should defer to monday and ask sdague and jaypipes what they think16:51
superdan(slackers)16:51
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johnthetubaguysuperdan: yeah, thats neater I guess16:52
superdanndipanov: I replied to you comment on the live migration migration record patch, would love to get some more detail there (or here) so I can make some progress if necessary16:52
ndipanovok16:52
ndipanovwill look in a but16:53
ndipanovbit16:53
superdanthganks16:53
ndipanovbutt I mean16:53
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jogomriedem: yeah I figured johnthetubaguy will do it this time16:56
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jogojohnthetubaguy: want to push the priorities patch to nova-specs16:57
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jogojohnthetubaguy: and replace http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html16:57
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johnthetubaguyjogo: yeah, I need to do that16:58
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johnthetubaguyflashgordon: so my plan is to complete this first: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-liberty-summit-action-items16:59
superdanjohnthetubaguy: can you drop your -2 on this now?16:59
superdanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/154521/16:59
johnthetubaguyflashgordon: our attempts to deploy kilo into our SYD dc while some folks (alaski) were on holiday derailed that, I should be free of that next week17:00
superdanI think jerdfeldt's -1 for the changes we discussed is enough to stave off unnecessary reviews17:00
flashgordonjohnthetubaguy: sounds like a good plan to me17:00
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flashgordonjohnthetubaguy: defcore FTW?17:00
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superdanflashgordon: no, I broke their whole deploy17:00
superdan(again)17:01
johnthetubaguyflashgordon: yeah, it was superdan, or our qe, or me, depending on how you look at the blame cycle, I did the patches for defcore the other weekend, you know the one just before the deadline17:02
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johnthetubaguymore specifically: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186497/17:02
johnthetubaguysuperdan: ah, we merged the spec, but not approved the bp, I just sorted that, for the online schema stuff17:04
superdancool17:04
superdantoo many hoops :(17:04
johnthetubaguysuperdan: we should probably have a drivers meeting at some point to review blueprint priorities, once we have a few more merged17:04
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superdansure17:05
johnthetubaguysuperdan: yeah, we need to streamline that!17:05
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vilobhmmjohnthetubaguy : need 2 min whenever you are free…17:05
flashgordonjohnthetubaguy: for bug 1459758 is there no upstream test to catch it?17:06
openstackbug 1459758 in OpenStack Compute (nova) kilo "inline flavor migration fails with pre-kilo instances" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1459758 - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms)17:06
superdanflashgordon: there is now17:06
johnthetubaguyvilobhmm: I am about to run off for the weekend, can I help?17:06
flashgordonsuperdan: good17:06
superdanflashgordon: grenade kinda can't trigger it because it requires an icehouse instance to fail in kilo17:06
flashgordonsuperdan: yeah I realized that the moment after I asked17:07
devanandahey folks - regarding ironic-neutron[-nova] interactions, we had several sessions in YVR on this, but I dont htink any nova cores attended17:07
superdanflashgordon: I was thinking I'd talk to sdague on monday about trying to pre-load the db with some icehouse instances that won't boot but that we can at least make sure don't crash things17:07
vilobhmmjohnthetubaguy : included the docimpact section as we discussed in nova unconference session…if you could remove the X so that others can consider having a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138607/  that would help…17:07
devanandathere's a bunch of work we're planning for bare metal tenant isolation, and a good chance it's going to require changes in Nova17:08
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devanandafirst meeting is being planned, set for Monday. agenda sketched here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron17:08
flashgordonsuperdan: yeah that is a good idea I like it17:08
devanandawho would be a good contact on the nova core team to work with on this, so we can minimize // coordinate any changes?17:08
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johnthetubaguyvilobhmm: sure, I can remove the -2 on that one now, thanks17:09
vilobhmmjohnthetubaguy : grt thanks a lot…have a grt weekend!17:09
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johnthetubaguydevananda: can our new ironic / nova liaison be sure to let us know whats happening?17:10
devanandathe initial estimate is that the only changes outside of hte ironic driver will be around the allocate_for_instance call, basically to let ironic handle it instead of Nova17:10
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johnthetubaguydevananda: thats probably the bit of code in nova that sucks the most right now... and its scheduled for a rewrite, as a heads up...17:11
superdandevananda: so we'll have three ways IPs can be allocated in nova?17:11
superdani.e. nova-net, neutron, or ironic/17:11
devanandajohnthetubaguy: the timing of the meeting will make it hard for mrda to attend, unfortunately, though I will ask jlvillal to attend (ohhai :) )17:11
devanandasuperdan: no -- it'll be nova-net or neutron17:11
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johnthetubaguydevananda: cool, will be good to have jlvillal there17:11
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devanandasuperdan: but in some cases, rather than nova calling neutron, nova will no-op and ironic will call neutron17:11
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superdanso 2.5 cases? :)17:12
jrolldevananda: johnthetubaguy: I think we're looking more for review support etc, honestly. and maybe an SME to tell us if we're crazy (we probably are)17:12
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devanandawhat jroll said :)17:12
johnthetubaguyjroll: I guess I am wondering how this sits with the cells stuff, but unsure17:12
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devanandafwiw, lots of good notes up here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-neutron-ironic17:12
jrolljohnthetubaguy: it's going to need to work with cells, if that's what you mean17:13
jrolljohnthetubaguy: especially since we plan to run this one day :)17:13
jrollwe == rackspace17:13
johnthetubaguyright, that and cells (long term) will need a partially setup nic, and it might be the same as what you need here, but unsure17:13
jrollah, interesting, where's laski when we need him17:14
superdanmonday17:14
jrollI know :P17:15
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johnthetubaguyyeah, I think it would be good to go through the plan with laski17:15
johnthetubaguyoh, so this is very cells related, at a quick glance at the stuff17:16
johnthetubaguyjroll: is this because ironic needs to tell neutron exactly which host you are on? currently we just pass in the mac address I guess?17:16
johnthetubaguy(we in this case being Nova? at least thats what I think baremetal did)17:17
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johnthetubaguyturns out cells is very similar17:17
ndipanovsuperdan, so it has to do with resource accounting because the resource tracker is using the migration object for instances in flight17:17
superdanndipanov: so we can make it exclude live migration typed migration records, yes/17:18
ndipanovre: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183331/3/nova/conductor/manager.py17:18
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ndipanovwell yes but the fact is that we will need to move it anyway once we fix the live mig case17:18
jrolljohnthetubaguy: more around we can't plumb tenant networks through until ironic is done with it17:18
ndipanovright superdan - that's what I meant by "not that much harder"17:19
superdanokay, I thought you meant something else17:19
ndipanovbut I could be wrong :)17:19
superdanndipanov: but I kinda feel like it does belong in the live migration task orchestration,17:20
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superdanbecause it marks the intent to migrate before anything happens or fails17:20
superdanlike if the compute goes down immediately, we still have a record of the fact that it was attempted17:20
devanandajohnthetubaguy: ironic needs to move a node between the provisioning network and then into the tenant network when provisioning is done17:20
ndipanovsuperdan, we could do:17:20
superdanwhich is kinda the point of orchestrating the live migration from the conductor, IMHO17:20
ndipanovcreate it here17:20
ndipanovflip the flag to: now use it for resource tracking17:21
devanandajohnthetubaguy: but as it is today, nova wants to put the node on the tenant network *before* ironic has provisioned it17:21
ndipanovholding the COMPUTE RESOURCE LOCK17:21
johnthetubaguyjroll: devananda: OK, yeah, I think thats the thing I was thinking, just described better17:21
ndipanov(we could be doing that for normal migrations too)17:21
johnthetubaguyjroll: devananda: anyway, appreciate the heads up on that one, we should catch up next week with alaski_vanc ideally17:22
superdanndipanov: so are you saying exclude these from RT's view for now, and then make RT handle live migrations properly in a separate patch and set state on the migration object inside the semaphore when we do that?17:22
ndipanovright that could work17:22
jrolljohnthetubaguy: yeah, would love a pointer to the plan there17:22
superdanndipanov: okay, I'll look into that and circle back with you next week17:22
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ndipanovand leave a comment saying that we plan to use the status flag for making the migration count towards resources17:22
johnthetubaguyjroll: me too, I think that is on the big todo list, writing down at least the "rough" plan17:22
devanandajohnthetubaguy: ack, will do.17:22
jrolljohnthetubaguy: heh, alright. have a good weekend :)17:23
ndipanovalso we should probably be setting the flavor too17:23
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* johnthetubaguy worries about the amount of planning to get a plan he is doing... oh well, beer o'clock17:23
superdanndipanov: I actually wanted to remove the flavor ids from that object at some point anyway, since we have them on instance now17:23
ndipanovfair but until then you'll need it17:24
superdannot if I exclude these from the RT, right? but sure, it's easy to set them17:24
ndipanovI guess17:25
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openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Allow drivers to choose if network plumbed immediately  https://review.openstack.org/18685517:47
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Suppress false alarms from bandit  https://review.openstack.org/18680517:52
jrollsuperdan: if you're curious about this ironic/networks stuff, I think the change can be much simpler, if I can get this new port-create parameter in neutron: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186855/17:56
jrolland just let the driver choose17:56
jrollI got a little crazy and touched nova-network, need to fix that17:56
superdanokay17:56
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Suppress false alarms from bandit  https://review.openstack.org/18680517:56
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openstackgerritMaxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: don't add filesystem disk to parallels containers unconditionally  https://review.openstack.org/18685817:59
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Suppress false alarms from bandit  https://review.openstack.org/18680518:01
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vilobhmmsuperdan : thanks for the review…if you have 2 min have a qq18:04
superdanvilobhmm: yeah18:04
vilobhmmsuperdan : was going through tempest to see the nova sg db driver coverage and how its done…18:05
vilobhmmI couldn't find one18:05
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superdanright, I said that in my comments18:05
vilobhmmfor your concern18:05
vilobhmmI won't be doing failure mode testing with this spec18:06
vilobhmmwill open up another spec with tooz/oslo18:06
superdan..in tempest18:06
vilobhmmfor doing that18:06
superdanthat won't cover us18:06
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vilobhmmso that tooz takes care of doing failure mode functionality testing18:06
superdanwe still need to test the nova side of the failure paths18:06
vilobhmmfor now it will rely on happy path18:06
superdanwhich is why I asked you to add functional tests18:07
vilobhmmthere is no integration of tempest tooz18:07
superdanfunctional tests can test the failure modes18:07
vilobhmmadd functional tests in tooz you mean ?18:07
vilobhmmif i get it correctly18:07
superdanno, in nova18:07
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vilobhmmcan you give some example as in what you are expecting about the functional tests in nova ? are they covered for the sg db driver for example  ?18:08
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superdanprobably not, but that doesn't really matter18:09
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superdanhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/test_servers.py18:10
openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Allow drivers to choose if network plumbed immediately  https://review.openstack.org/18685518:10
superdanthat is an functional test for instance stuff, which tests a nearly complete stack of nova in a bottle18:10
superdanso you'll want to do something like that for testing nova's ability to handle what happens when the tooz sg driver reports a problem18:11
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vilobhmmsure…makes sense superdan18:12
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superdanyou should be able to do what you'd want to do from tempest (if you could shut down a service) from a test like hat18:12
superdan*that18:12
vilobhmmso I will update the spec that 1. I will add functional test in *Nova*  2. Open a spec with tooz to do more failure mode testing18:13
vilobhmmsuperdan : ^^18:13
vilobhmmwill that help to answer your concerns…18:13
vilobhmmadd functional test in nova for testing nova's ability to handle what happens when the tooz sg driver reports a problem18:14
superdanI don't really care about #2 although it sounds like a good thing18:14
vilobhmmyep !18:14
vilobhmmalrite then will update the spec18:14
openstackgerritFeodor Tersin proposed openstack/nova: Fix collection of metadata for a snapshot of volume backed instance  https://review.openstack.org/17024318:14
superdanvilobhmm: presumably things like join() and leave() can fail as well, right? maybe those can be covered in unit tests, I dunno18:14
vilobhmmsure I will do that18:14
vilobhmmyou r right they can18:15
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vilobhmmI have a WIP18:15
vilobhmmwhere I am raising some exceptions if that happen18:15
vilobhmmwill catch them and report in case of failures18:15
vilobhmmsuperdan : thanks again!18:15
superdannp18:16
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rustlebeejohnthetubaguy: nice input on the neutron AZs spec, thanks18:18
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jrollsuperdan: you gonna want a spec for that networks thing? changes networks and virt driver api18:35
superdanjroll: I dunno, it just looks scary to me18:36
superdanjroll: you can wait for some others to come along and opine18:36
openstackgerritVikhyat Umrao proposed openstack/nova: RBD: Reading rbd_default_features from ceph.conf  https://review.openstack.org/18653718:36
superdanor maybe write up an email/blog/something about it and try to make the case without one18:37
jrollsuperdan: I'd totally understand, this port-create parameter doesn't exist yet in neutron either :P18:37
superdanthe absolute change is small, but the impact seems potentially large and I don't really understand what the desire is18:37
superdanah18:37
superdanis there a neutron spec for that that might shine some light on it?18:37
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jrollthere's a meeting monday where we're going to plan exactly what all is going on with this stuff18:37
jrollfor now there is: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron18:38
jrollwhich links to some summit etherpads18:38
superdanprobably need a roll up summary and not just notes18:38
superdanis there such a summary in any of those pads?18:38
jrollnot yet18:38
jrollthere will be, I'll link them in then18:38
jrollgotta get neutron folks to buy in on this commit param before I work too hard on this; just a poc for now18:39
superdanokay18:41
superdanunrelated, but:18:41
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superdanjroll: JoshNang: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177470/ <-- wasn't there a bug for this? I don't see it in the review now18:41
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jrollsuperdan: I thought so, let me see18:42
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JoshNangsuperdan: i thought so too, but i can't seem to find it18:43
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superdanokay, it would be good to capture the original stack traces somewhere,18:44
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superdanbecause I was just talking to someone with a relatedish problem and couldn't find the original traces to verify if it was related18:44
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jrollI should have some gists, at least18:44
superdanif you still have them, could one of you open (and close) a bug so that they're in the archives that way at least? .. with a pointer to the review of course18:44
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JoshNangdefinitely18:45
jrollsure thing, sec18:45
JoshNangi don't think there were any traces, but definitely gists18:45
superdanI thought there was one because of expected_task_state mismatch, but perhaps not18:46
superdanmaybe I'm just building a bridge between the current issue and that one that doesn't exist :)18:46
jrollsuperdan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/146017618:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1460176 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Reschedules sometimes do not allocate networks" [Undecided,Fix committed]18:47
jrollI can't remember if this was backported or not18:47
jrollso it's fix committed for now18:47
superdanI backported it18:48
superdanthanks for the bug18:48
jrollnp18:48
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superdanapparently I didn't backport it18:48
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] parse timestamp strings before saving to DB  https://review.openstack.org/18652218:54
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mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/186873/18:58
mriedemsuperdan: ^18:58
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superdanmriedem: can we put that bug in the backport commit message so that we have *some* amount of linkage?18:59
mriedemalready done18:59
mriedemps3218:59
mriedemps218:59
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openstackgerritAndre Aranha proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add 'passthrough' namespace in flavor extra_specs  https://review.openstack.org/18653619:12
openstackgerritVilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova-specs: Replace Zookeeper, Memcache servicegroup driver with respective Tooz drivers  https://review.openstack.org/13860719:12
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Tolerate iso style timestamps for cells rpc communication  https://review.openstack.org/18652219:33
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Ignore me - trying oslo.* master against Nova unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/18641319:36
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dimsum__melwitt: superdan: the cells iso time problem with oslo.serialization changes...i have a review almost ready - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186522/ - waiting on jobs now19:39
kashyapMaybe it's just my ignorance, but the description is so jargon laden (without an immediate example) here for those who don't normally track this area - http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tooz/.19:40
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mriedemkashyap: talk to harlowja19:42
superdanseems okay to me19:42
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kashyapsuperdan: Maybe for you, as might track this area. But I doubt for many (especially, those who don't spend full time only on OpenStack).19:44
kashyaps/as might/as you might19:44
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mriedemtooz works with kazoo and zookeeper and tested with zake, what's there not to understand?!19:45
mriedemthere is a dr seuss joke in there somewhere19:45
superdanif you know what zookeeper is then I think it's pretty obvious19:45
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kashyapNo, top off my head, I only heard the name vaguely. No conceptual definition comes to mind :-)19:46
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: API support for migration_type  https://review.openstack.org/18320019:53
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make live migration create a migration object record  https://review.openstack.org/18333119:53
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow querying for migrations by source_compute only  https://review.openstack.org/18335319:53
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make evacuate leave a record for the source compute host to process  https://review.openstack.org/18335419:53
dimsum__kashyap: this may be a bit more palatable? https://julien.danjou.info/blog/2014/python-distributed-membership-lock-with-tooz19:53
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harlowjakashyap perhaps a overview section would help?20:07
harlowjaor links to those blogs or something20:07
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harlowjamriedem also btw, tested with [zookeeper, redis, zake, memcached] in gate, matrix @ https://github.com/openstack/tooz/blob/master/tooz/tests/test_coordination.py#L41 that ensures they all work for the basic api (with indiivudal tests for different backends as needed)20:09
harlowjahttps://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L2986 (lots of kinds)20:10
harlowjawould happily improve the docs, if u guys have ideas20:11
mriedemi have 0 ideas20:11
harlowja:)20:12
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bandwidthsomeone knows if 'notification_topics' config is deprecated in Kilo?20:18
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bandwidthI don't receive notifications anymore20:19
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openstackgerritJens Rosenboom proposed openstack/nova: Add microversion to allow server search option ip6 for non-admin  https://review.openstack.org/17956920:24
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openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: bdm: Make sure that delete_on_termination is a boolean  https://review.openstack.org/18691020:34
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: snapshot: Copy some missing attrs to the snapshot bdms  https://review.openstack.org/18691120:34
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kfox1111therve: alive?20:38
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fricklergate-nova-python34 seems to be constantly failing with some UnicodeDecodeError during installdeps20:41
mriedemfrickler: link?20:41
fricklerhttps://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-nova-python34/3/console e.g.20:42
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frickleror http://logs.openstack.org/15/186315/4/check/gate-nova-python34/c48b0f5/console.html for a stable one20:43
superdanfrickler: you know that's non-voting right?20:44
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frickleryes, but still someone may want to fix it20:45
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/requirements.txt#L4620:45
mriedemwe need a py3 requirements file20:45
mriedemfor the py34 tox job20:45
mriedemhaypo should have done that when he added the changes to add the non-voting py34 job20:45
mriedemor tested it locally before pushing for that20:45
mriedemfrickler: wanna open a bug?20:46
bandwidthanyone knows if there's an issue with the notification_topics20:46
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fricklermriedem: no, you can have it, I'm off for today20:46
mriedemk20:46
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mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/146020620:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1460206 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "gate-nova-python34 fails to install rfc3986 due to UnicodeDecodeError" [Medium,Confirmed]20:50
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openstackgerritJens Rosenboom proposed openstack/nova: Add microversion to allow server search option ip6 for non-admin  https://review.openstack.org/17956920:51
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mriedembandwidth: notifications should still be working in kilo21:03
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/nova-specs: Instance Users for Cloud Interaction  https://review.openstack.org/18661721:16
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Ignore me - trying oslo.* master against Nova unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/18641321:30
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openstackgerritIan Cordasco proposed openstack/nova: Pass locale environment variables through tox  https://review.openstack.org/18692221:43
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove hash seed comment from tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/18692421:46
mriedemeasy peasy ^21:46
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bauwsermriedem: sorry folk, you can't be in the trivial bug list :)21:49
mriedemnot a bug21:50
mriedemso that's accurate21:50
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: disconnect_volume does not return anything  https://review.openstack.org/18692521:50
bauwsermriedem: so, trying to joke around friday midnight is just a bad thing :)21:50
mriedemsorry, i just take that patch very seriously21:51
mriedem*serious21:51
mriedemand i'm leaving now, later!21:51
bauwser:)21:51
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vilobhmmsuperdan : hey, you around..addressed all of your concerns…https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138607/…please have a look in your free time22:14
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openstackgerritIan Cordasco proposed openstack/nova: Pass locale environment variables through tox  https://review.openstack.org/18692222:19
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openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/nova: VMware: replace hardcoded strings with constants  https://review.openstack.org/18583622:23
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18693522:26
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18693522:39
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openstackgerritIan Cordasco proposed openstack/nova: Force the value of LC_ALL to be en_US.UTF-8  https://review.openstack.org/18692222:58
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openstackgerritJay Bryant proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Handle mismatch of volume information between BDM and domain XML  https://review.openstack.org/17506723:03
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openstackgerritJosh Gachnang proposed openstack/nova: Build Neutron network data for metadata service  https://review.openstack.org/10264923:39
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