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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for quota_create/update https://review.openstack.org/160203 | 01:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rong Han proposed openstack/nova: Catch NovaException from post_live_migration_at_destination, set instance vm_state error. https://review.openstack.org/186634 | 01:16 |
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| vishwanathj | hi All, been struggling for the last couple days and making painfully slow progress on a 3 node devstack setup.....the 3 nodes are KVM VMs.... | 02:26 |
| vishwanathj | am unable to create a VM on a compute node VM....seeing failure message "Failed to allocate network(s)".... | 02:26 |
| vishwanathj | am running out of ideas, have looked up ask.openstack.org as well....any guidance to further debug the issue would be highly appreciated...Thanks | 02:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Not pass secgroup values if not specified https://review.openstack.org/192043 | 02:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: DB:support for migration objects multi-statuses https://review.openstack.org/169604 | 03:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/197213 | 06:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Switch to oslo.service library https://review.openstack.org/192900 | 06:13 |
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| kiran-r | Can anybody tell me how the horizon is able to access vm console?? | 08:32 |
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| rdopiera | a browser-based vnc client | 08:34 |
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| rdopiera | (I may remember wrong, it might be the other protocol, not vnc) | 08:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dheeraj Gupta proposed openstack/nova: Add HostMapping object https://review.openstack.org/192098 | 08:56 |
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| sudipto | bauzas, hi, pinged you on the wrong channel :( | 09:36 |
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| garyk | BobBall: any idea how to get xen to vote for this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198702/ | 10:07 |
| garyk | sorry to bug you about this - just seems like the -1 may be misleading if and when people are thinking about maybe reviewing | 10:08 |
| BobBall | just do a "xen: recheck" as it said in the failure message | 10:09 |
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| BobBall | I'm sure the networking issue was temporary | 10:09 |
| BobBall | so rechecking should work | 10:09 |
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| garyk | ok, will do. thanks! | 10:16 |
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| garyk | yikes that even has a NSX vote - our cloud was down for a few days to to an oopenstack upgrade :) | 10:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add support for provider network portgroup https://review.openstack.org/199477 | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Split instance resize operation into 2 phases https://review.openstack.org/195088 | 10:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Create class hierarchy for tasks in conductor https://review.openstack.org/184495 | 10:42 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: morning | 10:55 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I was looking for some devref docs for helping a newcomer but it seems most of the changes are not yet merged, right ? | 10:55 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: at least the architecture change | 10:55 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: could you please give me the change URLs for them ? | 10:55 |
| bauzas | (in the meantime, I'll review them too) | 10:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/nova: Add support for burstable disk IO control https://review.openstack.org/199516 | 11:52 |
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| jaypipes | *yawn* | 12:03 |
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| garyk | BobBall: worked. thanks! | 12:07 |
| garyk | jaypipes: that yawn nearly swalloed me | 12:07 |
| jaypipes | garyk: :) | 12:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/nova: Add support for burstable disk IO control https://review.openstack.org/199516 | 12:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Adds Hyper-V Cluster implementation https://review.openstack.org/199037 | 12:27 |
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| _gryf | garyk, hi | 12:39 |
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| garyk | _gryf: hi, whats up? | 12:40 |
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| _gryf | garyk, regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185280/ and your comment about test case | 12:40 |
| _gryf | garyk, could you point me to the right test file? | 12:40 |
| garyk | _gryf: please see https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/db/test_db_api.py | 12:41 |
| garyk | maybe that can help | 12:41 |
| garyk | i just feel like we are adding a new flag lets at least see this set and read | 12:41 |
| _gryf | garyk, thanks :) | 12:41 |
| garyk | otherwise the code looks good | 12:42 |
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| _gryf | garyk, good to hear that :) | 12:42 |
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| tdurakov | hi! | 12:57 |
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| tdurakov | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/tasks/live_migrate.py#L160 why nova checks one host at a time? | 12:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: the first one usually passes | 13:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | unless your scheduler rules are broken | 13:04 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: and what if not? there are _check_compatible_with_source_hypervisor in conductors task | 13:05 |
| tdurakov | is it useles? | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: not sure I understand the question | 13:06 |
| tdurakov | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/tasks/live_migrate.py#L168 | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: there are two cases, you need to pick a host, or you are told what host to go to | 13:07 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: after conductor receives response from scheduler it makes extra checks for selected host | 13:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: yes, its assumed all hosts are good candidates for live-migrate, if that vm can run on them | 13:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: there is just one extra check to be sure before returning the API call to the user | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | as I remember it | 13:08 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: I'm talking about case when user doesn't provide target host | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: in what situation are you seeing a problem with the logic? | 13:08 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: if first host provided by scheduler is not compatible, conductor makes extra call, instead of get next host from current response | 13:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: select destinations only generally returns one host | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: unless you have multiple instances requested, which we don't, at least I thought that was the case | 13:10 |
| * bauzas teasing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179224/15/specs/liberty/approved/check-destination-on-migrations.rst,cm | 13:10 | |
| bauzas | tdurakov: johnthetubaguy^ | 13:11 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: now I see, thanks John! | 13:11 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: you know that the check is broken, right ? | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: no worries, happy to help | 13:11 |
| bauzas | :p | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: which one? | 13:12 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180151/ for example :) | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: ah yes, I remember that one | 13:12 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so, the problem is that neither the conductor, nor the compute knows about the ratios | 13:12 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so there is no way to have this check done by the compute manager also | 13:13 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: unless the compute manager knows about allocation ratios, but that's another BP :) | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I thought the plan was to make the compute own these ratios, and report the amount of RAM it has to the scheduler based on that | 13:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: ah, yes, what you just said | 13:13 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: right, that's the plan | 13:14 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but since this check method is just wrong, I think we should remove it anyway | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think thats a reasonable argument | 13:14 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: hence my comment | 13:16 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I mean, if the operator provides a wrong destination host, then that's his fault | 13:16 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but we have internal customers that are very angry because if they know that the dest host is good, they can't live migrate to it, because of that bug | 13:16 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so that's why I'm working on 3 different things at a time : | 13:17 |
| bauzas | 1/ fix the bug | 13:17 |
| bauzas | 2/ add the ratios to the computes | 13:17 |
| bauzas | (and check the memory from the compute) | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: all makes sense, I would just add this stuff in the commit message, then it would get my +2 I think | 13:18 |
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| bauzas | 3/ modify how we check the destination if providing a destination | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I am tempted to move the check into the compute manager, and add a TODO though, so we don't forget it | 13:18 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but that way, it won't fix the problem, because the compute could fail because of that | 13:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I am just meaning instead of just the remove, and a note to go fix it in the compute later | 13:20 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: and honestly, if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179224/15/specs/liberty/approved/check-destination-on-migrations.rst,cm is merged, we will not need to check the destination from the compute | 13:20 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: because we'll verify anyway | 13:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: so in the XenAPI case its a hypervisor call to check, I don't want that in the scheduler | 13:23 |
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| jaypipes | tdurakov: see my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184495/. Perhaps mriedem_away or sdague can validate my concern, but I *think* we need to use excutils.save_and_reraise_exception() there... | 13:24 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: fair enough, we can have both check-destination verifying the hints etc. and we can also keep the source_hypervisor check | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: I have a feeling that bug is now fixed in eventlet, but I could be wrong | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think that makes sense | 13:25 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: agree on the save_and_reraise_exception | 13:26 |
| mriedem | if rollback fails then the original is lost | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: but to follow the pattern +1 | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: ah, so I was missing a point, its the loss of the original exception too, my bad | 13:26 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: fair enough, let me try to see how I can modify the commit msg for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180151/3/ | 13:26 |
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| tdurakov | jaypipes, mriedem thanks, will use it | 13:30 |
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| jaypipes | tdurakov: cool. push a fix right quick and we'll re-review it. | 13:30 |
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| tdurakov | jaypipes: in a few minutes) | 13:31 |
| jaypipes | tdurakov: :) no worries. | 13:31 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: w.r.t. the Closes-bug: thing on tdurakov's commit message... I asked him to create that for tracking purposes. Is there a better way to do that? for these wishlist-type bugs.. | 13:38 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: we don't really need a bug for refactor series | 13:38 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: blueprint? | 13:38 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bdm-enum-fields,n,z | 13:39 |
| mriedem | i don't have a bug or blueprint for that | 13:39 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: k. guess I'll agree to disagree :) I find it useful for tracking what goes into a release... | 13:39 |
| mriedem | i'd lean more toward a small blueprint than a bug, personally | 13:40 |
| mriedem | bug: "we don't have a bug for this patch i wrote, so here is the bug" | 13:40 |
| mriedem | :) | 13:40 |
| mriedem | albeit not a bug | 13:40 |
| jaypipes | sure, that works for me, too. just as long as it shows up in the end "this is the Liberty release" milestone page. | 13:40 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: I know you don't necessarily use that page, but folks like myself who are inevitably tasked with putting together a set of slides about "what went into Liberty" do ;) | 13:41 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: excuse me dear sir | 13:41 |
| mriedem | i have to do that crap too :) | 13:41 |
| mriedem | we have our own support people | 13:42 |
| mriedem | this is why you'll find me asking questoins about the release notes a month after the release is out the door | 13:42 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: oh, well I apologize. you must keep it all in your head :P | 13:42 |
| mriedem | b/c the notes are generally lacking or wrong | 13:42 |
| mriedem | i do | 13:42 |
| jaypipes | :) | 13:42 |
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| mriedem | i freed up lots of room in there | 13:42 |
| jaypipes | lmfao | 13:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Deepak C Shetty (deepakcs) proposed openstack/nova: Nova part of volume snapshot improvements https://review.openstack.org/172813 | 13:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Deepak C Shetty (deepakcs) proposed openstack/nova: objects: Add support for OnlineSnapshotStatus object https://review.openstack.org/194538 | 13:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Split instance resize operation into 2 phases https://review.openstack.org/195088 | 13:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Create class hierarchy for tasks in conductor https://review.openstack.org/184495 | 13:44 |
| tdurakov | jaypipes: done, 2 line of code - 10 minutes for unit-testing re-roll:) | 13:44 |
| jaypipes | tdurakov: :) | 13:44 |
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| jaypipes | tdurakov: +2 from me on both those patches. hopefully mriedem has a chance to review them :) | 13:48 |
| mriedem | why do i get the feeling i have a target on my back now? | 13:48 |
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| mriedem | i've got the sqla-migrate release to get out the door first this morning | 13:49 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: brace for gate impact | 13:49 |
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| tdurakov | jaypipes: thanks! | 13:50 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: there's no target on your back, Matt :) | 13:51 |
| tdurakov | mriedem, :-D | 13:51 |
| mriedem | just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you | 13:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/nova: Switch to the oslo_utils.fileutils https://review.openstack.org/199575 | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added method exists to the Tag object https://review.openstack.org/178103 | 14:17 |
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| shyama | subscope: hi I am looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193134/ for multi attach support in nova. I have a question on iscsi volumes | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Change List objects to use obj_relationships https://review.openstack.org/198730 | 14:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/nova: Switch to the oslo_utils.fileutils https://review.openstack.org/199575 | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Fix test_relationships() for subobject versions https://review.openstack.org/198904 | 14:40 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: so that ^ was a versioning nightmare, but I hope I did it right this time | 14:41 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: cool | 14:43 |
| dansmith | I mean, not cool that it was a nightmare, but.. | 14:44 |
| rlrossit | if this wasn't the right way to do things, I'm going to go cry in a corner :'( | 14:44 |
| dansmith | aww | 14:44 |
| dansmith | this is complicated and not straightforward | 14:44 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: heh, well I guess it's good that I slept in today | 14:45 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: don't worry, i haven't released yet | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | there is plenty of time for breaks and your involvement | 14:46 |
| mriedem | running nova unit tests against trunk sqla-migrate now | 14:46 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: okay, I think this looks good. Let me pull it down and play with it a bit | 14:47 |
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| mriedem | i really like that tox dumps the pip freeze when it starts up | 14:47 |
| mriedem | newer tox that is | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cale Rath proposed openstack/nova: Fail when Neutron calls limits APIs. https://review.openstack.org/199604 | 15:02 |
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| mriedem | ctrath1: well look who got their CLA approved | 15:08 |
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| mriedem | ctrath1: you might need a url shoterner on that commit message, they are supposed to be wrapped at 80 chars | 15:09 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: you're using "git rebase -i" right? | 15:15 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: seemed like you were submitting those two one at a time, so just checking | 15:15 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: one nit on the commit message on the second one, but otherwise I think that's all good | 15:16 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: nice work, thanks for doing that | 15:16 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: thanks. yeah I did them individually because the List change keeps getting merge conflicts to I handle that one on its own. Not sure if there's a better way to do that | 15:17 |
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| dansmith | okay, that's fine, just wanted to make sure you weren't thinking you had to edit patches by constantly doing cherry-pick | 15:17 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: his bottom patch is very mechanical and could use your +W | 15:18 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198730/ i assume | 15:18 |
| mriedem | it's living in a tab | 15:18 |
| dansmith | aye | 15:18 |
| ctrath1 | mriedem: yeah. Finally. Trying to actually accept it was also a headache | 15:18 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i'm currently molesting ctrath1's first patch | 15:19 |
| dansmith | heh | 15:19 |
| ctrath1 | easy now | 15:19 |
| mriedem | there will be nothing easy or pleasant about this | 15:19 |
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| dansmith | lol | 15:19 |
| ctrath1 | lol.. bring it | 15:19 |
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| edleafe | ctrath1: you may regret that... | 15:27 |
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| ctrath1 | edleafe: I know where he sits ;-) | 15:27 |
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| mriedem | ctrath1: comments inline as a starter, | 15:31 |
| mriedem | but i think we're goign to have to rethink this again in the ML or nova meeting | 15:31 |
| mriedem | ctrath1: b/c the change as is today breaks the apis if you're using neutron such that you can't get any quota limit/usage information at all, even for non-networking resources | 15:32 |
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| ctrath1 | mriedem: ok, thanks. Yeah, the scope should probably be larger than just Neutron, if we want to do that at all | 15:32 |
| mriedem | well, it's a bug | 15:32 |
| mriedem | just not sure what to do about it, which is i guess why it wasn't fixed back in havana | 15:32 |
| mriedem | things were different back then wrt proxying to neutron and the plans for the what was then the v3 api | 15:33 |
| mriedem | if the network resource quotas weren't mixed in with the regular compute quota information in these apis it'd be simpler | 15:33 |
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| ctrath1 | mriedem: is there a way to deprecate, only in the case of Neutron? | 15:36 |
| mriedem | ctrath1: not really | 15:37 |
| dansmith | we could deprecate neutron... | 15:37 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: +1 :) | 15:38 |
| dansmith | :) | 15:38 |
| ctrath1 | haha | 15:38 |
| mriedem | the options i see are: 1. do nothing - mark the bug as won't fix (we could log a warning that the network resource quota info in the results won't be accurate), 2. proxy to neutron - this wouldn't be that hard, most of the code was written in havana, 3. fail - which is bad since it breaks the nova api for non-network resources, 4. nix the network resource types from the results somehow (omit or set to 0 or -2 or something weird) | 15:38 |
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| dansmith | you missed 5 | 15:40 |
| mriedem | 5. deprecate neutron | 15:41 |
| mriedem | dansmith: but neutron is important to NFV | 15:41 |
| dansmith | ... | 15:41 |
| mriedem | therefore neutron is important to sustain life | 15:41 |
| mriedem | it's like oxygen and water | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Check flavor type before add tenant access https://review.openstack.org/124338 | 15:43 |
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| mriedem | ctrath1: so do you want to open the can of worms in the ML or should i? | 15:46 |
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| ctrath1 | mriedem: I can. I will just need some help as I don't know the background | 15:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Pavlov proposed openstack/nova: Repairing disable_terminate and shutdown_terminate flags https://review.openstack.org/189112 | 15:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Split instance resize operation into 2 phases https://review.openstack.org/195088 | 15:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Create class hierarchy for tasks in conductor https://review.openstack.org/184495 | 15:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Fix test_relationships() for subobject versions https://review.openstack.org/198904 | 16:03 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: updated the commit message on ^. I feel like I'm talking in circles in it, so let me know what you think | 16:04 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: looks better to me | 16:06 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: we should see if it makes sense to mriedem | 16:06 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: rlrossit: ok, currently molesting other things in -qa atm now :) | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | rlrossit: if only i had some quick sugary energy to get me to multitask | 16:10 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: I still gots cupcakes | 16:10 |
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| mriedem | rlrossit: after lunch | 16:10 |
| rlrossit | they're flying off the shelves mriedem | 16:10 |
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| rlrossit | I should save one for the midcycle meetup so I can give one to dansmith for reviewing all of my code | 16:13 |
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| dansmith | will probably be pretty stale at that point | 16:14 |
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| rlrossit | that's what they invented freezers for | 16:14 |
| rlrossit | solely for storing cupcakes | 16:14 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: how does recheck work? and is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198730/ something that needs to be rechecked? | 16:32 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: yes | 16:33 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: post a comment on it with just "recheck" in the message box | 16:33 |
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| sdague | mriedem: so I +Aed this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197208/ but realized I had a question which I should have asked first | 16:37 |
| sdague | how does this downgrade correctly to the old representation? | 16:37 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: devref: update the nova architecture doc https://review.openstack.org/177374 | 16:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: devref: update the nova architecture doc https://review.openstack.org/177374 | 16:38 |
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| dansmith | sdague: it doesn't have to | 16:41 |
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| dansmith | sdague: the enum is a string, which is what it was before | 16:41 |
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| dansmith | sdague: and the enum covers all the possible values | 16:41 |
| dansmith | sdague: so older hosts won't notice or care | 16:42 |
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| dansmith | the difference is really just locally so that if you set foo.bar = 'invalid' it will break immediately | 16:42 |
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| mtreinish | dansmith: want to do a quick review on: https://review.openstack.org/199332 | 16:44 |
| dansmith | no | 16:44 |
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| mtreinish | heh, I figured that would be your answer | 16:44 |
| dansmith | mtreinish: this is just a tool for people to run, but doesn't run otherwise, right? | 16:45 |
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| dansmith | meaning, we don't need to care about dependencies | 16:45 |
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| mtreinish | yep | 16:45 |
| mtreinish | it's only for people who want to generate a latex pdf from the sphinx docs | 16:45 |
| mtreinish | completely opt-in | 16:45 |
| jdandrea | I'm looking at writing a custom scheduler filter for nova. I see http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/customize.html but also http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/section_compute-scheduler.html ... are "filter schedulers" and "schedulers" different creatures? | 16:45 |
| * jdandrea is also perusing code, natch ... | 16:46 | |
| mtreinish | dansmith: if you were curious I uploaded the output yesteday here: http://blog.kortar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Nova2.pdf | 16:47 |
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| dansmith | mtreinish: I was not curious | 16:47 |
| dansmith | mtreinish: but yeah, that looks nice | 16:47 |
| mtreinish | heh, no one ever is | 16:47 |
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| dansmith | heh | 16:47 |
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| sdague | dansmith: so... optimization question | 16:51 |
| sdague | in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197237/2/nova/objects/fields.py,cm | 16:51 |
| sdague | why doesn't the constructor for Enum actually register ALL automatically? | 16:52 |
| sdague | it seems like that would be less error prone in writing new code | 16:52 |
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| mriedem | sdague: what dansmith said (about the enum - i was making lunch) | 16:54 |
| sdague | mriedem: yep, makes sense | 16:54 |
| dansmith | sdague: because you can define anonymous enums and pass in the valid valids in-place | 16:57 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: devref: add a description of flavors https://review.openstack.org/178628 | 16:57 |
| dansmith | sdague: and because when danpb added the first pattern of defining one like this he just added ALL= as convention | 16:57 |
| dansmith | I don't actually really like the defining of enums like this, TBH | 16:57 |
| dansmith | because we include the name of the enum in the hash, which is irrelevant to the changed-ness of it | 16:58 |
| dansmith | so, we could codify the ALL convention, but right now it's just convention | 16:58 |
| dansmith | there are other enums we have that don't do it that way | 16:58 |
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| dansmith | (and this interface is owned by o.vo now as well) | 16:59 |
| sdague | ok | 16:59 |
| sdague | right, it just seemed that o.vo could follow convention. If valid_values is not sent in, and ALL exists, use that. | 16:59 |
| dansmith | it could, yeah | 17:00 |
| sdague | it would be a usage optimization | 17:00 |
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| dansmith | it would be codifying a convention I don't like to make it easier, yep | 17:01 |
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| sdague | well, what is the convention you would rather have? | 17:03 |
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| dansmith | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/migration.py#L50-52 | 17:04 |
| dansmith | with the list defined in that file, if it's too big to be inline | 17:05 |
| mriedem | e.g. http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/objects/external_event.py#n28 | 17:05 |
| dansmith | or that | 17:05 |
| dansmith | which was the convention before we got this new one | 17:05 |
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| mriedem | i guess the fields module is turning into libvirt.h huh :) | 17:06 |
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| dansmith | I like the values to be defined near the object, since that's where they matter | 17:06 |
| mriedem | yeah | 17:06 |
| dansmith | and not in fields, which is really supposed to be generic types | 17:06 |
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| mriedem | in at at least one of the bdm ones they are used by multiple objects, so in that case the fields module is best | 17:06 |
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| mriedem | in the case of the bdm enum types i was adding, i'm actually planning on replacing the hard-coding in the code with the enum type constants | 17:07 |
| dansmith | well, | 17:07 |
| dansmith | they can just import the other module and use that | 17:07 |
| dansmith | i.e. I'd rather see code import the object module and use objects.BDM.BDM_TYPES | 17:08 |
| dansmith | instead of objects.fields.BDM_TYPES | 17:08 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: so um, you can totally -1 this still :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197237/ | 17:08 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: well, he added a bunch of things like that, so it would just be a preference thing | 17:09 |
| dansmith | and I was trying not to be too opinionated | 17:09 |
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| mriedem | but now i know your true feelings | 17:10 |
| mriedem | and i will make references to this in 6 months :P | 17:10 |
| dansmith | heh | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: here is the backport for that libvirt cleanup serial console ports change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199655/ | 17:22 |
| dansmith | cool | 17:23 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: have you reviewed rlrossit's patches yet? | 17:23 |
| dansmith | mriedem: and... what are we going to make him do next? | 17:24 |
| mriedem | dansmith: doing it now | 17:24 |
| dansmith | cool | 17:24 |
| mriedem | dansmith: bake more cupcakes | 17:24 |
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| dansmith | heh | 17:24 |
| mriedem | i appreciate that he makes white cake cupcakes, i get tired of chocolate | 17:24 |
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| mriedem | rlrossit: dansmith: so far -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198730/ | 17:36 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: he's bringing that method in from the library | 17:51 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we can't reasonably override parts of it | 17:51 |
| dansmith | mriedem: just overriding it with exactly what is in the library and modifying it is what I asked him to do | 17:51 |
| dansmith | mriedem: he'll port it to o.vo and we can drop this once we get it released | 17:52 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: this? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/tree/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#n770 | 17:53 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: I actually don't like chocolate cake very much and in the chance I had leftovers I wanted to be able to eat them :P | 17:55 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 17:55 |
| rlrossit | I had some funfetti ones though but they went right away | 17:55 |
| mriedem | i like my spinkles monochromatic | 17:55 |
| mriedem | and everything at right angles | 17:56 |
| rlrossit | well that's too bad | 17:56 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: the mixin using things from a base class it hopes to be mixed in with is normally a thing to avoid (re: the using obj_calculate_child_version) | 17:56 |
| mriedem | duplication is also a thing to avoid...right | 17:57 |
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| dansmith | sure, but this is duplication for like a week | 17:58 |
| dansmith | and it's duplication for the sake of safety while we move the thing underneath | 17:59 |
| mriedem | i figured this block was going to be basically moved to o.vo | 17:59 |
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| dansmith | not exactly, but similar | 17:59 |
| dansmith | he needs to do this for the second patch | 18:00 |
| mriedem | alright, meh then, want to call that out in reply to my comments? | 18:00 |
| dansmith | after the second, he could reduce it to just what goes into o.vo I think | 18:00 |
| dansmith | it's a dance | 18:00 |
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| mriedem | alright, i guess it wasn't completely clear from the code | 18:01 |
| mriedem | or commit message | 18:01 |
| rlrossit | it wasn't necessarily clear to the guy writing the code either :) | 18:01 |
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| dansmith | the comment at the top of that method made it sound like you understood :) | 18:02 |
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| rlrossit | fake it til you make it :) | 18:03 |
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| edmondsw | tonyb tristanC, is there any outlook on a nova fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1415087 ? | 18:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1415087 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "[OSSA 2015-011] Format-guessing and file disclosure in image convert (CVE-2015-1850, CVE-2015-1851)" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Tony Breeds (o-tony) | 18:03 |
| tristanC | edmondsw: good question... | 18:05 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: mriedem: should I add some comments in obj_make_compatible() so say where they were taken from in o.vo so we kinda know what functionality I'm attempting to mimic? | 18:08 |
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| mriedem | rlrossit: nah, if this is temp | 18:09 |
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| mriedem | rlrossit: could have been in the commit message, but it's explained in the review comments now anyway | 18:09 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: i still had some questions in the test code | 18:09 |
| dansmith | mriedem: o.vo will have some duplication, because it has to support both the original and new formats, yeah | 18:10 |
| dansmith | mriedem: nova will just not use the old format, and maybe someday we can drop it, | 18:10 |
| dansmith | but it's a library, so we can't just do it now | 18:10 |
| mriedem | i get the compat checking for child_versions | 18:11 |
| mriedem | i was talking about the duplication of obj_calculate_child_version between NovaObject and ObjectListBase now | 18:11 |
| dansmith | yep I know | 18:12 |
| mriedem | doesn't need to be a mixin class, could just be a static method | 18:12 |
| dansmith | I think we'll have to swizzle things around just a bit | 18:12 |
| dansmith | right, that | 18:12 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, since you're the expert on block devices now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190323/ | 18:15 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: wtf you're still working? | 18:15 |
| ndipanov | it's not that late here | 18:16 |
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| mriedem | 8:16pm, true enough | 18:17 |
| mriedem | i always imagine it's like 2am | 18:17 |
| rlrossit | even 2am isn't that late mriedem | 18:17 |
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| mriedem | not when you're 23, no | 18:17 |
| ndipanov | yeah plus the older I get the more "after lunch" means "no work done" | 18:18 |
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| rlrossit | wait I'm supposed to work after lunch? | 18:18 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: everything else in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198730/ looks ok, just questions on the tests and now you have to rebase also | 18:18 |
| mriedem | b/c of my things that got in | 18:18 |
| rlrossit | grrrr that one has been so conflicting | 18:19 |
| mriedem | speaking of no work done, bbiab | 18:19 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: I'm replying to his test questions | 18:22 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: explaining why he's wrong | 18:22 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: but gerrit is being slow | 18:22 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: I'm just now reading how it does the fingerprinting thing... if I'm seeing this correctly it doesn't even look at obj_relationships right now does it? | 18:23 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: yeah, and it doesn't need to, because of the relationships test | 18:23 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: see my explanation of why it's easier to leave it though | 18:23 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: I think I'm starting to get more confused with what I will be putting into o.vo, but I guess we can cross that bridge when we get there | 18:25 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: okay | 18:25 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: o.vo's list base needs to continue to honor child versions as well as obj_relationships if it's present | 18:26 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: that means its tests need to as well | 18:26 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: and o.vo provides some fixtures to do all this hash and relationship checking for you, | 18:26 |
| dansmith | so that nova can drop its test infrastructure around this and just use the tools from o.vo to do the checking | 18:27 |
| dansmith | but we can't have nova do that quite yet, I think, because we're still not fully using the rest of o.vo entirely | 18:27 |
| dansmith | so we're in a half state right now | 18:27 |
| rlrossit | ok yeah the fixture talk threw me off because I thought I was just going to add the change to the base class that used obj_relationship (but also left compat with child_versions) | 18:28 |
| rlrossit | but the fixture stuff is just more nova-related things that can go over on the mayflower to o.vo | 18:28 |
| dansmith | the fixture is already in o.vo | 18:29 |
| dansmith | so when you make o.vo start to honor obj_relationships, you need to make its fixtures support it too | 18:29 |
| rlrossit | gotcha | 18:29 |
| dansmith | don't worry about the nova-using-it part right now | 18:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: rt: generalize claim code to be useful for other move actions https://review.openstack.org/197138 | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: compute: rename ResizeClaim to MoveClaim https://review.openstack.org/197137 | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Define migration states and transitions and use when changing status https://review.openstack.org/197669 | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Introduce a simple state machine module https://review.openstack.org/197668 | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: rt: move filtering of mygration by type lower in the call stack https://review.openstack.org/199678 | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Allow for migration object to be passed to _move_claim https://review.openstack.org/199679 | 18:30 |
| dansmith | the fixtures are tools that o.vo provides so that projects that use it can validate their objects like we do in nova here | 18:30 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, ^^ builds on your work | 18:30 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: if it's any consolation, your level of understanding/confusion is very appropriate for your level of familiarity with this, IMHO :D | 18:30 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: okay | 18:30 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: unless it tastes like pizza, I'm not interested for at least an hour | 18:31 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, it does not :( | 18:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roman Dobosz proposed openstack/nova: New nova API call to mark nova-compute down https://review.openstack.org/184086 | 18:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Roman Dobosz proposed openstack/nova: Service group drivers forced_down flag utilization https://review.openstack.org/197063 | 18:41 |
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| tjones1 | #stackalytics | 18:51 |
| tjones1 | oops | 18:51 |
| mriedem | any hyper-v people around? | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Pavlov proposed openstack/nova: Repairing disable_terminate and shutdown_terminate flags https://review.openstack.org/189112 | 20:06 |
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| GLaupre | someone involved with libvirt here? | 20:28 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: looks like gerritbot missed me while he was offline, but I fixed the good ol' conflicts https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198730 | 20:32 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: okay cool, in the middle of something else at the moment | 20:33 |
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| rlrossit | that | 20:33 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: that's alright, don't really want anything else on my plate today anyways | 20:33 |
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| ctrath1 | rlrossit: where is base.obj_make_compatible called? | 20:41 |
| rlrossit | ctrath1: in _do_backport() | 20:42 |
| ctrath1 | file? | 20:43 |
| rlrossit | nova/objects/base.py | 20:43 |
| rlrossit | doing really bad at my git linking right now | 20:43 |
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| rlrossit | ctrath1: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/objects/base.py#n323 | 20:44 |
| ctrath1 | ty | 20:44 |
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| bauzas | alaski: meeting in 15, right? | 20:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Scheduler RPC API select_dests() https://review.openstack.org/199205 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify filters for using RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/197912 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec in the ChanceScheduler https://review.openstack.org/199051 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add RequestSpec methods for primitiving into dicts https://review.openstack.org/187197 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in HostManager https://review.openstack.org/191251 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use the same pci_requests field for all filters and HostManager https://review.openstack.org/191250 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Remove unnecessary method in FilterScheduler https://review.openstack.org/188485 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Consider that all scheduler calls are IO Ops https://review.openstack.org/188486 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Create RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/145528 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in the FilterScheduler https://review.openstack.org/188487 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add two fields to ImageMetaProps object https://review.openstack.org/197911 | 20:46 |
| alaski | bauzas: yes | 20:46 |
| bauzas | alaski: ack | 20:46 |
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| jdandrea | In kilo should I use compute_scheduler_driver or scheduler_driver to define the default scheduler driver (if other than FilterScheduler)? | 20:53 |
| jdandrea | I see it described both ways in the kilo docs and want to be sure. | 20:54 |
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| ctrath1 | rlrossit: I added another comment to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198730/ .. Not a show stopper, but thought it would be nice to have | 20:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nicolas Simonds proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Make the guest console configurable https://review.openstack.org/122523 | 21:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nicolas Simonds proposed openstack/nova: Fix/implement revert-resize for RBD-backed images https://review.openstack.org/187395 | 21:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Nicolas Simonds proposed openstack/nova: Use utf8_bin collation on the flavor extra-specs table in MySQL https://review.openstack.org/190300 | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | oh he left | 21:18 |
| mriedem | +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198730/ although it's going to need to be rebased again | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add DB2 support https://review.openstack.org/69047 | 21:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Marian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Switch to oslo.service library https://review.openstack.org/192900 | 21:19 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: this is fun - it's on rlrossit's backport change http://logs.openstack.org/30/198730/5/check/check-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu/4f4ddf2/logs/old/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2015-07-08_20_58_14_981 | 21:32 |
| dansmith | which change? | 21:32 |
| dansmith | backport? eh/ | 21:33 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198730/ | 21:33 |
| mriedem | infinite recursion | 21:33 |
| dansmith | this is master | 21:33 |
| mriedem | kilo compute blows up doing some backport thing with liberty conductor it looks like | 21:33 |
| mriedem | it's the check-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu job | 21:33 |
| dansmith | okay, "backport change" made me think something got backported to stable/somethign | 21:33 |
| mriedem | yeah, bad choice of words | 21:34 |
| mriedem | backport is in the trace | 21:34 |
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| dansmith | heh, yeah I see now | 21:35 |
| dansmith | that probably means we're not backporting something as asked | 21:35 |
| mriedem | oh wow i haven't seen automatic guru meditation before http://logs.openstack.org/30/198730/5/check/check-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu/4f4ddf2/logs/old/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_2015-07-08_20_58_31_805 | 21:36 |
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| dansmith | yeah, although it looks idle when it happens | 21:38 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: so, it didn't manifest last time, | 21:39 |
| dansmith | mriedem: and there are general timeouts talking to conductor in there too | 21:39 |
| dansmith | mriedem: and like, almost nothing in conductor log | 21:39 |
| dansmith | so I kinda wonder if something else is wedged | 21:39 |
| dansmith | surely seems like it would be related to this, but... | 21:40 |
| mriedem | well http://goo.gl/egRbfh | 21:40 |
| mriedem | logstash don't lie | 21:40 |
| dansmith | sure | 21:41 |
| dansmith | why is it listed twice? | 21:41 |
| mriedem | 2 hits? not sure | 21:41 |
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| mriedem | oh sec | 21:42 |
| mriedem | it's 2 different servers | 21:43 |
| mriedem | s/servers/projects or users/ | 21:43 |
| mriedem | one is nova_grenade and one is cinder_grenade | 21:43 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: you didn't update instance version? | 21:43 |
| dansmith | in your patch | 21:43 |
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| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/30/198730/5/check/check-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu/4f4ddf2/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2015-07-08_20_58_21_613 | 21:43 |
| mriedem | which patch? | 21:44 |
| mriedem | bdm source type? | 21:44 |
| dansmith | the one where you bumped BDM | 21:44 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:44 |
| mriedem | no, b/c bdm isn't a child of instance | 21:44 |
| mriedem | it's the other way around | 21:44 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/block_device.py#L60 | 21:44 |
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| dansmith | right, okay | 21:45 |
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| dansmith | that always confuses me | 21:45 |
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| mriedem | anyway, grenade looks like it failed b/c it timed out trying to delete a server instance | 21:46 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/30/198730/5/check/check-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu/4f4ddf2/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2015-07-08_20_58_21_613 | 21:46 |
| dansmith | I wanna see if this happens all the time or just sometimes, so I rechecked | 21:46 |
| mriedem | cinder_server1 is under the cinder_grenade user/project, so that's what i was seeing in the logs http://logs.openstack.org/30/198730/5/check/check-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu/4f4ddf2/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2015-07-08_20_58_17_535 | 21:46 |
| dansmith | because if it's always happening now then it must be something after the rebase, but it looks clean to me | 21:47 |
| mriedem | yeah it looks clean to me too | 21:47 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/30/198730/5/check/check-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu/4f4ddf2/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2015-07-08_20_58_13_874 is a known thing | 21:47 |
| mriedem | race to delete a security group that's still in use | 21:47 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/grenade/+bug/1460112 | 21:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1460112 in grenade "Race failure to delete security group" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:48 |
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| mriedem | oh right, that's why i added the openstack server delete --wait option to osc | 21:48 |
| mriedem | but grenade isn't using that yet - anyway, unrelated here | 21:48 |
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| dansmith | ah | 21:52 |
| dansmith | he's gone for the day? | 21:52 |
| mriedem | yeah, it's his birthday and he's a big boy now | 21:52 |
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| dansmith | like old enough to lubricate bad decisions? | 21:53 |
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| mriedem | i believe he's quite wholesome | 21:53 |
| mriedem | anywho, i have to run also | 21:54 |
| dansmith | left a comment | 21:54 |
| dansmith | which I bet is the problem | 21:54 |
| dansmith | we can talk about it tomorrow after his hangover wears off | 21:54 |
| mriedem | i see the comment... | 21:54 |
| mriedem | you know, | 21:54 |
| mriedem | dan | 21:54 |
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| mriedem | if we would have just pulled up the original code into a static method, this would not be a problem :) | 21:55 |
| dansmith | doing that is not trivial | 21:55 |
| dansmith | he could have also just copied the code correctly | 21:56 |
| mriedem | the good news is, i have a trivial fix for this other grenade race which i can do later | 21:56 |
| dansmith | I'm elated | 21:56 |
| mriedem | i know you are | 21:56 |
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| bauzas | alaski: around ? | 21:58 |
| bauzas | alaski: reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192875/ | 21:58 |
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| bauzas | alaski: so, until cells v2 is there, I think it's okay to add features to cells v2 | 21:59 |
| bauzas | oops | 21:59 |
| bauzas | add features to cells v1 | 21:59 |
| dansmith | we said feature freeze on cellsv1 | 21:59 |
| dansmith | only adding things for parity and test passing | 21:59 |
| bauzas | dansmith: my point was to say "well, fair to add that, but maybe adding some Tempest tests" | 22:00 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: do we have the devref saying "cells v1 freeze" ? | 22:01 |
| dansmith | I dunno, probably not | 22:01 |
| bauzas | mmm | 22:01 |
| GLaupre | Can someone give me an hint how to hardcoded a parameter in the XML cfg file to spawn an instance? | 22:02 |
| bauzas | dansmith: alaski: so I wonder how we should accept https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192875/ | 22:02 |
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| alaski | bauzas: I'm not sure I would consider that a "feature" | 22:04 |
| alaski | however, I'm fine if it doesn't go in | 22:05 |
| alaski | we're using it internally and I just wanted to push it up | 22:05 |
| dansmith | I hadn't looked until just now | 22:05 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: I thought maybe you meant a big new feature or something | 22:06 |
| dansmith | a filter doesn't seem like much | 22:06 |
| bauzas | alaski: yeah, I know it's "just" a filter | 22:06 |
| bauzas | alaski: my point is | 22:06 |
| bauzas | alaski: I want to make sure that we draw a line | 22:06 |
| bauzas | alaski: and explain why we should accept X and not Y | 22:06 |
| alaski | that's fair | 22:07 |
| dansmith | well, | 22:07 |
| dansmith | I think the reason we said that, | 22:07 |
| dansmith | was more just to cap the amount of work we had to do, mostly around getting cells tests passing | 22:07 |
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| dansmith | and setting expectations about finishing out functionality in cells that didn't match regular nova | 22:07 |
| dansmith | I don't think there are lots of people clamoring to add new things to cells | 22:07 |
| alaski | yep | 22:08 |
| bauzas | dansmith: right | 22:08 |
| dansmith | so not sure taking this is a danger of opening the gates or anything | 22:08 |
| dansmith | given that RAX is kindof the canonical cells deploy, if they use it and have it privately, seems like it's probably good to get it in | 22:08 |
| bauzas | dansmith: thinking about that, the problem is with the functional testing of that new feature | 22:08 |
| dansmith | just to reduce their delta | 22:08 |
| bauzas | dansmith: since it's maybe trivial to accept a new filter, we can just be sure that it's tested | 22:09 |
| alaski | bauzas: that's a problem with all scheduler filters I think | 22:09 |
| dansmith | well, we don't really do a good job with functional testing of any filters right? | 22:09 |
| dansmith | yeah, even the nova ones | 22:09 |
| dansmith | er, normal one | 22:09 |
| dansmith | s | 22:09 |
| bauzas | alaski: agreed, I was thinking about it for my patch series | 22:09 |
| bauzas | alaski: not all filters are tempest-tested | 22:09 |
| bauzas | alaski: only the ones defauled | 22:09 |
| bauzas | defaulted even | 22:10 |
| dansmith | well, | 22:10 |
| dansmith | even those aren't tested for correctness | 22:10 |
| dansmith | since we have only one scheduling destination | 22:10 |
| bauzas | correct | 22:10 |
| alaski | yeah, I would be surprised if any are really tested | 22:10 |
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| bauzas | so | 22:10 |
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| bauzas | I don't think your change is adding more debt | 22:10 |
| bauzas | so I would like to +1 it | 22:10 |
| bauzas | I just want to be clear and say | 22:11 |
| dansmith | yep, it's worth bringing up the discussion point like you did | 22:11 |
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| bauzas | so, we should consider cells v1 STABLE | 22:11 |
| bauzas | officially I mean | 22:11 |
| bauzas | that's not paperwork, just a official way to say "this is frozen, unless very few exceptions" | 22:12 |
| bauzas | and about the filters, I need to think about how to gate that | 22:13 |
| bauzas | because the current situation is not acceptable | 22:13 |
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| alaski | bauzas: I'm not sure we can draw a hard line on this, but I think anything that wants to add more plumbing to cells needs strong consideration | 22:14 |
| alaski | but using a well established plug point should be alright | 22:15 |
| bauzas | alaski: ones could be tempted to say that if it's a plug, why needing to provide it in-tree ? :) | 22:15 |
| bauzas | alaski: but your patch is good for that | 22:16 |
| bauzas | alaski: I'm just thinking of the TrustedFilter for example... | 22:16 |
| alaski | bauzas: sure, we don't have to have it in-tree | 22:16 |
| alaski | but it's nice to contribute it because it is useful | 22:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: totally | 22:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: honestly, I have zero problems with your change | 22:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: but it creates a jurisprudence | 22:17 |
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| bauzas | yeah, a precursor | 22:18 |
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| dansmith | you mean precedent | 22:19 |
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| dansmith | and it's really not, IMHO | 22:20 |
| dansmith | because of the reasons alaski stated and because very few people are submitting cells features | 22:20 |
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| bauzas | okay, let's change my vote | 22:21 |
| dansmith | no need to change your vote :) | 22:22 |
| bauzas | dansmith: no I mean, the discussion was good | 22:22 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I changed my mind | 22:22 |
| dansmith | I mean, it's totally fine for you to remain in disagreement | 22:22 |
| dansmith | okay | 22:22 |
| bauzas | dansmith: just because it uses an API and the default list of filters is not changed | 22:22 |
| jroll | oh are we accepting cells features now? | 22:23 |
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| jroll | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198024/ | 22:23 |
| jroll | just sayin :D | 22:23 |
| bauzas | dansmith: if alaski was adding that filter to the default list, then I would be less agreeing | 22:23 |
| bauzas | jroll: ha | 22:23 |
| bauzas | jroll: see my comments on the change | 22:23 |
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| bauzas | jroll: that's not really a new feature | 22:24 |
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| jroll | hehehe | 22:24 |
| dansmith | well, that one affects the API and the config | 22:24 |
| dansmith | right? | 22:24 |
| jroll | bauzas: I actually just put this up to share it with someone but I won't mind if it merges :) | 22:24 |
| jroll | really we should have a larger flavor classes effort if we want to do that | 22:24 |
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| alaski | my issue with it is that we should formally figure out flavor classes first | 22:25 |
| jroll | indeed | 22:25 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 22:25 |
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| jroll | I mostly just put that here to step on dansmith's proverbial lawn for a moment | 22:25 |
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| jroll | :P | 22:26 |
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| bauzas | alaski: oh btw., you know that I'm not planning to provide RequestSpec for the cells scheduler ? | 22:28 |
| alaski | there's a few things we could push up if flavor classes were a legit thing. we use them for splitting policy decisions as well | 22:28 |
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| alaski | bauzas: in what way? it will need to be passed through somehow | 22:28 |
| bauzas | alaski: for cells v1 | 22:29 |
| bauzas | alaski: I'm only changing the nova-scheduler API | 22:29 |
| alaski | where is the request spec object created? | 22:29 |
| alaski | at what point in the boot process? | 22:29 |
| bauzas | alaski: it will be done in the conductor | 22:29 |
| bauzas | alaski: and passed thru RPC to the conductor | 22:30 |
| alaski | okay, that's fine. it won't affect cells at all | 22:30 |
| bauzas | alaski: for the moment, it's done by the RPC API client, but I'll change that in the later changes | 22:30 |
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| bauzas | alaski: correct, hence my ping | 22:30 |
| bauzas | alaski: just wanted to inform you | 22:30 |
| alaski | bauzas: cool, thanks for the heads up | 22:31 |
| bauzas | alaski: I didn't touched the nova.filters stuff | 22:31 |
| melwitt | alaski: what do you mean by flavor classes splitting policy decisions? | 22:31 |
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| alaski | melwitt: we can apply different policies to different flavor classes, like only allowing resize for some flavors, or disallowing rescue for flavors that can only boot from volume | 22:32 |
| bauzas | alaski: FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199205/ | 22:32 |
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| bauzas | alaski: that's the current state, and the next patch will just modify the client so it passes a Spec object | 22:32 |
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| melwitt | alaski: oh, cool | 22:33 |
| alaski | bauzas: cool. I need to go through that series again | 22:33 |
| bauzas | alaski: no worries, just for explaining how it will work | 22:34 |
| bauzas | ie.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199205/2/nova/scheduler/rpcapi.py,cm | 22:34 |
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