Friday, 2015-08-14

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cfriesen_ndipanov: just submitted a bug report (bug 1484742) , looks like NUMATopologyFilter isn't properly accounting for cpu_allocation_ratio when not using dedicated CPUs.00:24
openstackbug 1484742 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "NUMATopologyFilter doesn't account for cpu_allocation_ratio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148474200:24
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tonybSo for $feature that is very tied to the hardware arch.  Is it better to whitelist know good architectures or blacklist architectures when we workout they don't work?00:32
tonybthis is for: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20380900:32
tonybmy gut feel is whitelist known good architectures.00:33
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Resize: Return to initial state instead of ACTIVE when resize fails  https://review.openstack.org/20237901:33
openstackgerritRui Chen proposed openstack/nova: Set task_state=None when booting instance failed  https://review.openstack.org/18714501:35
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Drop outdated sqlite downgrade script  https://review.openstack.org/21289101:38
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openstackgerritRui Chen proposed openstack/nova: Fix permission issue of server group API  https://review.openstack.org/19311701:39
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add UniqueConstraint for quota usages table  https://review.openstack.org/21290802:25
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alex_xuoomichi: o ha yo!02:26
oomichialex_xu: hi, morning :)02:27
alex_xuoomichi: I talk with sdague last night, there is log http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2015-08-13.log.html#t2015-08-13T11:10:1902:27
alex_xuoomichi: the direction is a little changed02:27
alex_xuoomichi: finally we say keep name required, and make description optional. And we need microversions02:27
alex_xuoomichi: and sdague suggestion we have email to ML to see the neutorn guys feedback02:28
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oomichialex_xu: thanks for pointing it out. I am reading this carefully now02:31
alex_xuoomichi: :)02:32
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alex_xuoomichi: let me know whether make sense for you02:32
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oomichialex_xu: it seems making us back to the first step :-(      it is difficult to find good direction between nova-net and neutron02:34
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alex_xuoomichi: yea, look like we need microversion now. so .... I'm thinking we can add json-schema directly?02:44
alex_xuoomichi: at least one thing we agreement on is nova-network and neutron have same behavior in nova api, right?02:45
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alex_xuoomichi: now there is no way to backport the fix now.02:47
oomichialex_xu: yeah, it is good to make the same api behavior between nova-net and neutron for me/users/02:48
oomichialex_xu: yeah, it is good to make the same api behavior between nova-net and neutron for me/users.02:48
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alex_xuoomichi: if we go to json-schema directly, we can send email when we figure out all the different between neutron and nova-network02:48
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oomichialex_xu: nice idea :)02:49
oomichialex_xu: that means we need to have separated schemas for both nova-net and neutron?02:49
oomichialex_xu: or a single schema for covering both nova-net and neutron?02:50
alex_xuoomichi: a single schema, that is good for same behavior between nova-net and neutron, right?02:50
oomichialex_xu: yeah, right. I prefer it :)02:50
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alex_xuoomichi: cool :)02:51
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oomichialex_xu: but I am a little confused now because the discussion of yesterday seems that we need to change current nova-network behavior: make description optional02:51
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add UniqueConstraint for quota usages table  https://review.openstack.org/21290803:01
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alex_xuoomichi: mikal there is remove v3 patch is ready https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212120/03:14
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oomichialex_xu: great, happy to remove "v3" :) will check it03:16
alex_xuoomichi: yea :)03:17
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alex_xuoomichi: thanks for the review!03:17
oomichialex_xu: the commit message doesn't contain your name as co-author, is it ok for you ?03:17
alex_xuoomichi: it's fine, I saw the commit's author is me03:18
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oomichialex_xu: nice, +203:25
oomichialex_xu: btw, during I reviewed this, I found the curious thing.03:26
oomichialex_xu: /opt/stack/nova/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute$ grep contrib * -R | grep -v legacy_v203:26
oomichialex_xu: we can see something like 'nova.api.openstack.compute.contrib.select_extensions'03:26
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oomichialex_xu: but now they don't exist on nova tree.03:27
oomichialex_xu: by moving to legacy_v203:27
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alex_xuoomichi: yea, there is backward-compatible code, let me find the link03:31
alex_xuoomichi: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/extensions.py#L21303:31
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openstackgerritvikas choudhary proposed openstack/nova: Update hypervisor stats in booting failed case  https://review.openstack.org/21296103:43
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openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/nova: Add nova-manage command for cleaning attachment  https://review.openstack.org/18453703:45
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openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/nova: Add nova-manage command for cleaning attachment  https://review.openstack.org/18453703:47
oomichialex_xu: oh, I see. thanks for pointing it out :)03:48
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openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/nova: Add nova-manage command for cleaning attachment  https://review.openstack.org/18453703:55
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openstackgerritvikas choudhary proposed openstack/nova: Update hypervisor stats in booting failed case  https://review.openstack.org/21296103:59
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openstackgerritTracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup of compute api reboot method  https://review.openstack.org/12742704:00
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: Handle more exception when doing live-migraion  https://review.openstack.org/21296504:01
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openstackgerritTracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup of compute api reboot method  https://review.openstack.org/12742704:01
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tjonesmelwitt: ^^ got it (i think)04:04
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openstackgerritvikas choudhary proposed openstack/nova: Update hypervisor stats in booting failed case  https://review.openstack.org/21296104:07
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Fix a few typos  https://review.openstack.org/20874904:36
openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/nova: Use min and max on IntOpt option types  https://review.openstack.org/21238104:37
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alex_xuoomichi: np, thanks for the review04:59
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Fix cinder volume stuck in swap_volume  https://review.openstack.org/20738504:59
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/nova: Add [pci] group and whitelist_sections to configure PCI passthrough  https://review.openstack.org/13313805:52
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openstackgerritMartin Schuppert proposed openstack/nova: Make pagination work with changes-since and deleted marker  https://review.openstack.org/20955406:08
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/21236706:23
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add functional test for server group  https://review.openstack.org/14751406:55
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: scheduler:refactor group info in filter_properties  https://review.openstack.org/14827506:57
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: api: add soft-affinity policies for server groups  https://review.openstack.org/14752006:57
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add functional tests to soft affinity capabilities  https://review.openstack.org/14752106:57
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: scheduler: add num of instance per host in a group  https://review.openstack.org/14827706:57
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: object:count members per hosts in InstanceGroup  https://review.openstack.org/14751706:57
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: scheduler: add soft-(anti-)affinity weighers  https://review.openstack.org/14751606:57
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add api samples impact to microversion devref  https://review.openstack.org/21037007:15
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eliqiaoalex_xu ?07:26
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Switch from deprecated timeutils.isotime  https://review.openstack.org/21114607:26
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Move the v2 api_sample functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/21223808:21
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Move legacy v2 api smaple tests  https://review.openstack.org/21302908:21
alex_xuedleafe: ^ I seaparated moving api sample tests also.08:22
alex_xuedleafe: I create new API sample test base class https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213029/1/nova/tests/functional/api_sample_tests/legacy_v2/api_samples_test_base.py08:22
kashyapdeepakcs: Can you explain what you mean by "backing file post rebase" in your patch? -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212518/08:22
alex_xuedleafe: then we can adjust the directory of v2 api sample tests08:22
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alex_xuedleafe: I guess there may still have small problem, but I have to go home now rush for terrible traffic. I will back after few hours08:23
deepakcskashyap: base <--snap1 (active file), post rebase snap1's backing file will be None (snap1 is rebased to _no_ backing file)08:24
openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/nova: Add nova-manage command for cleaning attachment  https://review.openstack.org/18453708:24
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kashyapdeepakcs: So, 'snap1' is merged into base08:24
kashyapAm I reading it right?08:24
deepakcskashyap: 'merged into' terminology is confusing to me. The above example i gave is for blockRebase for snap1 file08:25
kashyapdeepakcs: Might be useful for other reviewers (who don't have the block layer APIs committed to memory :-) ) if you add a bit of explicit commentary on this.08:25
deepakcskashyap: generally i have not seen non-block layer folks reviewing such patches :) so i took the liberty. Will do , pls leave a comment there08:26
kashyapdeepakcs: What is the resut of "blockRebase for snap1"?08:26
kashyaps/resut/result/08:26
deepakcsresult : snap1 (stand alone file with backing_file None)08:26
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deepakcskashyap: and base file cna be deleted08:26
deepakcskashyap: from `man qemu-img` :            The backing file is changed to backing_file and (if the image format of filename supports this) the backing file format is changed to backing_fmt. If backing_file is specified as "" (the empty08:27
deepakcs           string), then the image is rebased onto no backing file (i.e. it will exist independently of any backing file).08:27
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kashyapYep, thanks.08:28
deepakcskashyap: the last statement there is what I am also saying08:28
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bauzasmoooooorning nooooooova08:36
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* bauzas spoliating the friday nick08:36
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bauzaslxsli: when you're done, could you please tell me what happened in the past 2 weeks ? :)08:38
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bauzaslxsli: also, I saw you made a rebase for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145528/ any chance to explain the diff ?08:38
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openstackgerritFeodor Tersin proposed openstack/nova: Remove obsolete race handling in Instance.destroy  https://review.openstack.org/21097208:57
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openstackgerritlalit dagre proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Flavor create using api DB  https://review.openstack.org/21304109:01
openstackgerritDheeraj Gupta proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Flavor create using api DB  https://review.openstack.org/21304109:02
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add UniqueConstraint for quota usages table  https://review.openstack.org/21290809:12
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openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Allow for migration object to be passed to _move_claim  https://review.openstack.org/19967909:18
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: rt: generalize claim code to be useful for other move actions  https://review.openstack.org/19713809:18
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: rt: move filtering of mygration by type lower in the call stack  https://review.openstack.org/19967809:18
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: compute: Make rebuild_instance RPC take node and migration args  https://review.openstack.org/20048509:18
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/21305509:19
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: WIP patch of shame  https://review.openstack.org/21251009:20
openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Clean up live migration retry loop  https://review.openstack.org/21305609:20
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openstackgerritAnkit Agrawal proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Race condition leads to instance in error  https://review.openstack.org/18554909:25
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openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: ironic: convert driver to use nova.objects.ImageMeta  https://review.openstack.org/18936209:27
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: objects: convert config drive to use ImageMeta object  https://review.openstack.org/18932309:27
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert driver to use nova.objects.ImageMeta  https://review.openstack.org/18811909:27
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: hyperv: convert driver to use nova.objects.ImageMeta  https://review.openstack.org/18930209:27
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: objects: add virtual 'image_meta' property to Instance object  https://review.openstack.org/19014509:27
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert to use instance.image_meta property  https://review.openstack.org/19014609:27
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: compute: convert manager to use nova.objects.ImageMeta  https://review.openstack.org/18968509:27
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: convert driver to use nova.objects.ImageMeta  https://review.openstack.org/18879009:27
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lexloofahbauzas: morning, welcome back09:50
bauzasty09:50
bauzaslexloofah: nvm my previous question about the Spec object, saw the diffs09:50
lexloofahah cool09:50
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bauzasjust rebases + dep fix09:51
lexloofahyep09:51
bauzaslexloofah: any other cool stuff I missed ? :)09:51
bauzaslexloofah: saw alaski's chain, coolio09:51
lexloofahjust the ML I think09:51
bauzaslexloofah: well, I was lurking at the ML, nothing really bad or opiniating, isn't it ?09:52
lexloofahthere's the extra specs thread09:52
bauzaslexloofah: right09:52
bauzaslexloofah: I need some time before replying to that one09:52
lexloofahyeah I'm going to let the adults talk09:52
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bauzasheh09:54
bauzashonestly, we pushed that to M IIRC09:55
bauzasnothing really urgent unless critical09:55
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lexloofahyeah definitely nothing happening soon09:57
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openstackgerritlalit dagre proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Flavor create using api DB  https://review.openstack.org/21304110:22
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add UniqueConstraint for quota usages table  https://review.openstack.org/21290810:23
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add UniqueConstraint for quota usages table  https://review.openstack.org/21290810:32
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jichenalex_xu: hi, online?11:01
alex_xujichen: hi, I'm here11:03
jichenalex_xu: do you remember usually openstack will give a code to anyone who had a patch as free entrance code to summit? At least in Hongkong, how bout tokyo?11:04
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alex_xujichen: yes, we have that11:04
jichenum... any criteria? I think I might have but I didn't get mail aobut it11:05
jichenalex_xu: I need those code to get a invitation letter from summit....11:05
alex_xujichen: you can search email by this 'Your registration code for OpenStack Summit in Tokyo'11:06
jichenalex_xu: when it's sent ?11:07
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alex_xujichen: let me check11:07
alex_xujichen: 13 july11:08
jichenalex_xu: got it ,thanks~11:08
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alex_xujichen: if you can't find that, maybe you try to send email to ask another email jeremy@openstack.org11:08
alex_xujichen: np :)11:08
jichenalex_xu: great, appreciate your help :)11:08
openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: support to expose disk labels in guest for root and ephemeral disks  https://review.openstack.org/21309411:10
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova: Add methods for RequestContext to switch db connection  https://review.openstack.org/16190611:16
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Move the v2 api_sample functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/21223811:17
alex_xuedleafe: ^ fixed the pep8, we are finish all the big thing!11:18
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: remove error whitespaces abels in guest for root and ephemeral disks  https://review.openstack.org/21309411:29
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: To expose disk labels in guest for root and ephemeral disks  https://review.openstack.org/21309411:31
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: remove error whitespaces abels in guest for root and ephemeral disks  https://review.openstack.org/21309411:37
openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: To expose disk labels in guest for root and ephemeral disks  https://review.openstack.org/21309411:39
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openstackgerrithuan proposed openstack/nova: Change the way of getting device name when nova-compute running under HVM domain  https://review.openstack.org/21311212:01
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ankit_agmikal: Hi..12:20
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figleafalex_xu: great news!12:25
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figleafalex_xu: strange, though - why does the Author keep changing on your commits?12:30
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figleafalex_xu: thanks for noticing and adding me back as co-author :)12:31
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bauzasalaski: ping me when you're around, I would like to discuss on your comments for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145528/12:36
bauzasalaski: re: the ID field12:36
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openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Remove last of the plugins/v3 from unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/21279312:41
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Remove v3 references in unit test 'contrib'  https://review.openstack.org/21285112:42
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Rename classes containing 'v3' to 'v21'  https://review.openstack.org/21273412:42
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figleafalex_xu: ^ rebased12:43
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alex_xufigleaf: I guess sdague and johnthetubaguy not here today12:53
figleafalex_xu: well, it *is* Friday :)12:56
alex_xufigleaf: begin my weekend :)12:57
openstackgerritRajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova: Remove unnecessary ValueError exception  https://review.openstack.org/19052512:57
figleafalex_xu: Enjoy it! Spend time with that new baby of yours12:58
alex_xufigleaf: thanks13:00
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openstackgerritMarian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Added processing /compute URL  https://review.openstack.org/19530313:19
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lexloofahbauzas: can I ask a q?13:20
bauzaslexloofah: sure thinh13:20
bauzaslexloofah: oh, btw. I'll be in Seattle next week, so my TZ will be UTC-713:21
lexloofahbauzas: if a live migration has a destination specified, we already try only that place13:21
lexloofahbauzas: we only consult the scheduler if they don't13:21
bauzaslexloofah: zactly13:21
lexloofahbauzas: so how can I apply 'force'?13:21
lexloofahor was force only intended for evacuate?13:21
bauzaslexloofah: because you'll be removing that check13:21
bauzaslexloofah: ie. anytime you'll be calling the scheduler (even if a dest host is provided)13:22
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lexloofahaha13:22
bauzaslexloofah: only if 'force' is provided, then you'll directly call the compute manafer13:22
bauzasmanager even13:22
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lexloofahso I'll just swap "if not self.destination" for "if not self.force"13:23
bauzaslexloofah: that's why I wrote originally that spec - I wanted that by anytime we would be checking the scheduler13:23
bauzaslexloofah: probably yes13:23
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bauzaslexloofah: there are a few helpers that I would like to remove also13:23
lexloofahyou still want self._check_requested_destination even if force?13:23
bauzaslexloofah: well13:24
bauzaslexloofah: eg. that one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180151/13:24
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bauzaslexloofah: about leaving the existing helpers, I honestly don't see a added value about that13:25
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lasciibauzas: I'm around now13:25
lexloofahOK I'll delete and see who scrams13:25
lexloofah*screams13:25
bauzaslexloofah: but, that depends on if we want to keep the existing broken behaviour13:25
bauzaslexloofah: probably a dependent change13:26
bauzaslexloofah: and see if it's accepted or not13:26
lexloofahI tend to agree that if you force, you take responsibility13:26
bauzaslexloofah: totally my view there13:26
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bauzaslexloofah: if you force, you're a grown-up13:26
bauzaslexloofah: the 'force' option is really for leaving the operators happy and not grumpy13:27
bauzaslexloofah: because I know that some people want to migrate anyway - for good or bad reasons13:27
bauzaslexloofah: so they would break the scheduler, but that's fair13:27
lexloofahI like having that available as a get-out-of-jail when there are bugs13:27
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lexloofahthere should always be a "do what I say" option13:28
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bauzaslexloofah: yep that's a workaound - the exact same hack as for force_hosts - but at least we'll now have a clean API for that :)13:28
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bauzaslexloofah: next cycle, I plan to provide another spec for dumping force_hosts in hell13:28
bauzaslexloofah: and change the API to accept an optional destination + force - so the UX would be identical between migrate, evacuate and boot13:29
bauzasbut that's for later13:29
bauzaslascii: coolness13:30
bauzaslascii: no really long discussions, your point is fart13:30
bauzaslascii: happy with me squashing your changes ?13:30
bauzaseh lol13:30
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bauzass/fart/fair13:30
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lasciiheh13:32
lasciibauzas: yeah, I put the patch up so you can just squash it in13:32
lasciior modify it, as long as the fields are there13:33
bauzaslascii: coolness, I'm done with rebasing my stuff, I'll post it and then do a squash on a second time13:33
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lexloofahbauzas: oh one more thing, you wanted requested_destination persisted right?13:33
bauzaslascii: well, the main change is not merged, a new version seems overkill to me13:34
bauzaslascii: I mean, adding a new version just for adding a field13:34
bauzaslexloofah: that, it's lascii's playground13:34
* bauzas loves delegating13:34
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lexloofahbauzas: let me rephrase then, do you want req_dest to persist between requests?13:35
lasciibauzas: agreed.  that's why I -1ed your patch :)13:35
lexloofahbauzas: or does it only affect the current request?13:35
bauzaslexloofah: ah that13:36
bauzaslexloofah: well, I wrote something about that13:36
bauzaslexloofah: lemme reread the spec13:36
lexloofahhttp://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/approved/check-destination-on-migrations.html13:36
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bauzaslascii: np, I like getting reviewed, whatever the word is13:37
openstackgerritTracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup of compute api reboot method  https://review.openstack.org/12742713:37
bauzaslexloofah: got it13:37
bauzaslexloofah: "This spec goes beyond what the persist-request-spec blueprint [1] by making sure that before each call to select_destinations(), the RequestSpec object is read from the current instance to schedule and will make sure that after the result of select_destinations(), the RequestSpec object will be persisted. "13:37
bauzaslexloofah: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/approved/check-destination-on-migrations.html#proposed-change13:37
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bauzaslexloofah: so to answer your question, yes13:38
lexloofahOK13:38
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bauzaslascii: okay, I'll just wedge your patch series13:39
bauzaslexloofah: by a subsequent side effect, your WIPs will be broken too13:41
lexloofah^_^13:41
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superdanlascii: can you give your opinion on this?13:42
superdanlascii: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209554/213:42
superdanjohnthetubaguy: you too, if you're around13:42
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lexloofahsuperdan: do we need to talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211268/ ?13:42
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superdanlexloofah: nope, sorry13:43
bauzasoh damn Friday, you beat me all13:43
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lasciisuperdan: I'll take a look.  I think john is carting a tuba around a field somewhere again13:43
superdanlascii: that sounds like him13:43
superdanlascii: I think it's a quick opinion thing, about deleted markers13:44
superdanlascii: since the marker could be deleted by a user in between pagination requests, it sure seems to me like requesting deleted always for the marker makes sense13:46
leakypipes\how is superdan up this early on a Friday?13:47
lasciiearly?  he's probably been up for hours13:47
superdanyeah man13:47
superdanthis is not early13:47
* leakypipes\ hands superdan a sleep-in-until-ten token.13:47
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superdanI have never nor would ever do such a thing13:47
lexloofahsuperdan: thanks :)13:47
leakypipeslol :)13:48
lasciisuperdan: that makes sense to me as well.  just trying to consider all the cases quickly.  it definitely makes sense when used with changes-since13:48
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superdanlascii: well, I think that even in a normal list-my-instances, if another user deletes an instance in between paginated requests, we'd get the error13:49
* leakypipes envisions superdan sleeping in like Winnie... https://twitter.com/jaypipes/status/63110258831908044813:49
superdanand I don't think that we leak the deleted instance, because the filters are still the filters on the query, right? the marker is just the marker, AFAIK13:49
superdanheh13:49
lasciisuperdan: yeah, I agree that it makes sense there too.  I think my only concern is someone using a deleted marker well after it's deleted and then that stopping working suddenly when the db is purged13:50
lasciibut I'm also not sure I care about that13:50
superdanyeah, that seems silly enough to not worry about13:51
lasciiI'm good with making that change, to always read deleted for marker13:51
superdanlascii: cool, can you say as much in there? who else should we ask? leakypipes maybe?13:52
superdanfor an API view13:52
lasciiyep13:52
lasciito both13:52
superdanleakypipes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209554/213:52
superdanleakypipes: seems like we should always read_deleted=yes for the marker13:52
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superdanleakypipes: if you do a paginated list (even without changes-since) and then someone deletes your marker between queries, we shouldn't explode, right?13:53
superdanleakypipes: note that patch is currently only doing it if changes_since is used, but I'm arguing we should just always do it, and let the actual deleted filter remove deleted instances from the result13:54
bauwserlascii: quick q, why did you plan an IntegerField for the Spec object ?13:54
lasciibauwser: for the id?13:54
bauwserlascii: I'd rather prefer to have an uuid even if the PK is an integer13:54
bauwserlascii: oh sorry, yes13:54
bauwserlascii: I should review your last change13:55
bauwserlemme check13:55
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lasciibauwser: we never reference an id/uuid for the spec, it's all ultimately based on the instance uuid13:55
bauwserso, yeah, you PK an integer13:55
bauwserlascii: so, my wonder is13:56
bauwserlascii: we know that a Spec object can refer to 1:N instances13:56
leakypipessuperdan: looking...13:56
bauwserat least until we get rid of num_instances as discussed during the summit13:56
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bauwserlascii: so, I totally understand the need of an ID for referring to the spec and leave the instance_uuid field as an FK13:57
bauwseror without FK, just a pointer reference, I don't really care13:57
lasciibauwser: the id isn't for referring to the spec though, it's mostly a check on whether the spec is already in the db or not13:57
bauwserlascii: the thing is, why couldn't we have a Spec.id which could be PK *and* uuid.uuid4() ?13:58
bauwserlascii: does that need to be exposed then ?13:58
bauwserlascii: ie. couldn't we only leave with getters and setters for the Spec object hiding the internal DB repr ?13:59
lasciibauwser: it's mostly for line 300 in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211753/9/nova/objects/request_spec.py,cm13:59
bauwserlascii: if you don't care about the Spec ID, that doesn't necessarly need to be exposed13:59
bauwserlike the updated_at field which is not yet exposed - because the object is not inheriting from the PersistentMixin14:00
leakypipessuperdan: +2 from me.14:00
bauwserlascii: mmm, I see, I wonder if it's clean14:00
leakypipessuperdan: or are you asking if we need a microversion buymp?14:00
superdanleakypipes: nope, asking about the behavior of always pulling deleted for the marker14:01
lasciibauwser: do you expect that multiple specs will be needed for an instance, in your migration/resize work?14:01
leakypipessuperdan: yeah, I think that is correct behaviour (in the patch)14:01
superdanleakypipes: I actually don't want to +2 that patch14:01
bauwserlascii: no, that won't change14:01
leakypipessuperdan: maybe sdague will take a looksie.14:01
superdanleakypipes: as the comments are saying, I think we should always pull a deleted marker, not only when changes-since are used14:01
bauwserlascii: a spec is always having one instance14:01
superdansdague: he's out today14:01
bauwseroh sec14:02
* bauwser whispers14:02
leakypipessuperdan: hmm...14:02
leakypipessuperdan: I wouldn't have any issue with that either.14:02
bauwserlascii: I think your change is wrong actually14:02
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superdanleakypipes: okay cool14:02
leakypipessuperdan: you want me to comment that?14:02
bauwserlascii: because if num_instances=2, then 2 instances can share the same spec14:02
bauwserthat's the opposite14:03
bauwserie. one spec can have 2 instances, but one instance necessarly has one spec14:03
superdanleakypipes: yeah, please, for clarity with him14:03
leakypipessuperdan: done.14:03
lasciibauwser: I don't think one spec should have two instances.  that leads us into needing to do CoW later14:04
bauwserlascii: and for knowing if one spec is correctly hydrated from DB (ie. an existing Spec), I'd rather check if the object is orphaned or not14:04
lasciibauwser: I'm pretty sure I can create a blank spec that's not orphaned14:05
lasciibut we could add a uniqueness constraint to instance_uuid and get the same effect14:05
bauwserlascii: right, if you pass the contexrt14:05
bauwserCoW ?14:05
lasciicopy on write14:06
lasciifor a resize we would need to split the spec later14:06
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superdanleakypipes: thanks homey14:07
bauwserlascii: ah that14:07
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leakypipesjohnthetubaguy: hey, would it be possible to remove your -2 on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195303/. mhorban has now updated the patch to be less intrusive and it has tests that show correct behaviour when Nova API is run inside Apache (and shares a root domain with other OpenStack API services)14:10
leakypipeslascii, superdan: ^^ feel free to check out that too if you want.14:10
lasciileakypipes: I think he's out today14:10
leakypipeslascii: ah, ok.14:11
leakypipeslascii: well, still, if you and superdan have a moment, woiuld be great to get your opinion.14:11
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leakypipesdanpb: lol, you totally trumped my "just don't use 100G images" answer ;P14:12
danpbwell your answer is right based on current state of nova :-)14:13
leakypipesheh14:13
bauwserlascii: okay, I think I'm okay with 1:1 for instance vs. spec14:14
danpbi'm going to speak with kvm devs to see if they hve an opinion on this14:14
bauwserlascii: my question still remains for the ID field to be exposed that way14:14
lasciibauwser: cool.  I think that's a much simpler approach14:14
bauwserlascii: at least, an UUIDField sounds more appropriate to me14:15
lasciibauwser: I'm not sure I understand the issue with it.  But I would want a db expert to chime in on that14:15
bauwserlascii: or we just hide it and use a property or an internal attribute for knowing if the Spec is corresponding to an existing DB entry14:15
lasciibauwser: an internal attribute wouldn't be remotable though.  a unique constraint on instance_uuid would work though14:16
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lasciileakypipes: is there a reason to use an autoincrement int vs a uuid for a primary key in a db table?14:16
bauwserlascii: oh right, my brain is still left on the mountains14:17
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leakypipeslascii: it's smaller and more efficient (compared to how we store our UUIDs), but it's not something that is going to matter all that much relative to the other faux-pas we have in our DB schema :)14:17
bauwserlascii: okay, I don't want to overkill the convo, let's keep what you did - ie. one instance_uuid field and one ID field that will be integer, and see what the reviews say14:18
leakypipeslascii: note that we could be storing our UUIDs *much* more efficiently (in both MySQL and PostgreSQL), as a BINARY(16) column type...14:18
leakypipeslascii: but that's a conversation for a Monday, not a Friday :P14:19
bauwserleakypipes: yeah, I certainly understand that14:19
lasciileakypipes: heh, sure14:19
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lasciibauwser: works for me14:19
bauwserok, should be done by the next 10 mins14:20
leakypipesbauwser: so what's the status on the request_spec patch series? we good to go with reviewing it?14:20
lasciibauwser: if we were using the id to reference the spec at all I would definitely want a uuid, but it should never be user visible or referenced that way14:20
bauwserleakypipes: a new set will be done in the next 10 mins14:20
leakypipeskk14:20
bauwserleakypipes: basically a rebase + alaski's comment fix14:20
bauwserlascii: yeah, I assume that, - and I see it's done that way currently14:21
bauwserlascii: but I don't really see an added value of having a DB internal field exposed that way - but as leakypipes said, that's matter for later :)14:21
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lasciibauwser: I tend to agree, but it follows the model of what we do elsewhere14:22
bauwserlascii: my thoughts go to have a field/attr that can be remotable without having this kind of 'officiality' that a NovaObject field can have14:22
lasciisuperdan: what are your thoughts on having object fields for internal usage only, i.e. not a public attribute on the object?14:23
lasciifor things like the db id14:23
bauwserlascii: yeah, I assume that discussion not being only related to the Spec object, totally14:23
bauwserjust food for thoughts14:23
superdanlascii: on a call, can we chat about it in like 30m ?14:24
lasciisure14:24
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/nova: Re-write way of compare APIVersionRequest's  https://review.openstack.org/16929214:41
openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/nova: Store "null api version" as 0.0  https://review.openstack.org/21317814:41
andreykurilinsdague: hi! Can you look at update for novaclient-microversion spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211206/14:43
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alejandritohi, we have a KILO cloud under ubuntu, after a total power off of the cloud after restarting rabbitmq, mysql databases and every service, half of the instances (on the compute nodes) dont have the tap interfaces on their XML's and the linux interfaces tap - qvo - qvbe never gets created, doing hard reboots, etc doesnt recreate the taps, someone ran into this problem ?14:51
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openstackgerritMartin Schuppert proposed openstack/nova: Make pagination work with changes-since and deleted marker  https://review.openstack.org/20955414:55
cfriesenAnyone have opinions on numa-awareness and overcommit?  I raised bug 1484742 last night, but today I noticed a comment in git commit d13205f that seems to indicate that this is design intent.  If so, that seems odd...why would we ignore the CPU overcommit ratios just because an instance wanted to use hugepages?14:56
openstackbug 1484742 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "NUMATopologyFilter doesn't account for cpu_allocation_ratio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148474214:56
danpb you can't overcommit huge pages14:56
cfriesenno, but you can overcommit cpus while not overcomitting memory14:56
cfriesenor are we saying that doesn't make sense and if you want hugepages you should always pin cpus too?14:57
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cfriesenbecause if that's the case then we should actually enforce it14:57
danpbit is supposed to only ignore CPU overcommit when doing CPU pinning14:57
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danpbnon-pinned CPUs should still overcommit14:58
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cfriesendanpb: looks like the issue is in _numa_fit_instance_cell(), right at the beginning, where we unconditionally check the instance cell cpuset against the host cell14:58
cfriesennikola's commit message from d13205f reads in part, "14:59
cfriesenit will no longer be possible for an14:59
cfriesen    NUMA-aware instance to be over-committed against itself no matter what the14:59
cfriesen    over-subscription ratios are14:59
cfriesenwhoops, sorry for the multiline14:59
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cfriesenI wonder if we can just remove that check, since it's checked again in _numa_fit_instance_cell_with_pinning() and a bit further down in _numa_fit_instance_cell() if "limit_cell" is set.15:01
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Scheduler RPC API select_dests()  https://review.openstack.org/19920515:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Create RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/14552815:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Consider that all scheduler calls are IO Ops  https://review.openstack.org/18848615:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in the FilterScheduler  https://review.openstack.org/18848715:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify left filters for RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/20267815:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Prepare filters for using RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/19791215:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify conductor to use RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/20307815:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify metric-related filters for RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/20267615:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec in the ChanceScheduler  https://review.openstack.org/19905115:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify NUMA, PCI and num_instances filters for RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/20267715:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Aggregate filters for RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/20267415:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify default filters for RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/20267515:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add RequestSpec methods for primitiving into dicts  https://review.openstack.org/18719715:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Affinity filter for RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/20267315:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in HostManager  https://review.openstack.org/19125115:07
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use the same pci_requests field for all filters and HostManager  https://review.openstack.org/19125015:07
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bauwserlascii: lexloofah: rebase hell for you ^^15:15
bauwserleakypipes: see above, you're free to yell15:16
leakypipesholy patch series.15:16
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bauwserleakypipes: as I said to some other folks, I'll be on Seattle for the next week, so UTC-7 for me15:21
leakypipesbauwser: ah, ok. linux conf?15:21
bauwserleakypipes: KVM forum15:21
leakypipesya15:21
lasciibauwser: np.  I need to fix my functional tests on my last patch anyways15:22
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superdanlascii: okay, shoot15:24
lasciisuperdan: hopefully a simple question, but thoughts on private fields?15:24
lasciifor things like a db id which users of an object don't need to access15:24
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superdanlascii: define private.. stored in the object but not accessible as foo.id ?15:24
lasciiyep15:25
bauwsersuperdan: basically, I was wondering about the added value of exposing an 'id' field15:25
bauwsersuperdan: hence lascii's ping15:25
lasciisuperdan: it came up from line 300 in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211753/9/nova/objects/request_spec.py,cm15:25
superdansure? I mean, I can see why it's academically helpful, but I'm not sure it's _really_ necessary15:26
bauwsersuperdan: that's something internal for the DB that we only care for knowing if the object is already persisted or not15:26
lasciithat's the only reason 'id' is on this object15:26
mriedemsuperdan: when you get a chance, i was just looking at a performance related issue for the simple_tenant_usage API and remembering the change i made to only join on system_metadata when pulling the instances: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/api/openstack/compute/simple_tenant_usage.py#n106,15:26
* superdan looks15:26
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mriedemsuperdan: shouldn't that just join on flavor now for expected_attrs given the blob conversion15:26
superdanlascii: we do that "is id set" check on other objects, so it's consistent at least15:27
lasciisuperdan: it's not _really_ necessary at this point, but it means everything we want to remote becomes a part of the public api, which may not always be what we want to do15:27
superdanlascii: but yeah, I mean if you think it's really helpful to do that then, that's fine15:27
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superdanlascii: how would the object code itself see the value? some obj.obj_dont_look_behind_this_curtain('id') ?15:27
lasciisuperdan: something like that.  the fields are already hidden members of the object so just need another accessor15:28
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superdanyeah15:28
superdanlascii: you want to block this on that, or just noting for later?15:28
lasciisuperdan: there's no urgency on it, but wanted to get thoughts before maybe exploring it in ovoo15:28
lasciifor later15:28
superdanyeah15:28
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eliqiao1hi johnthetubaguy, around ?15:29
lasciieliqiao1: I don't think he's going to be around today15:29
superdanlascii: yeah, not opposed to it if there's a reason15:29
lasciisuperdan: cool15:29
eliqiao1lascii: thanks good to know.15:29
eliqiao1so does anyone konw if nova require a bp if any changing to notifications like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211887/15:30
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mriedemeliqiao1: we haven't required blueprints for adding notifications in the past15:32
danpbthat's not really adding new notifications anyway15:32
danpbit is making existing notification be used in a missing case15:33
mriedemyeah15:33
eliqiao1danpb: yeah15:34
mriedemeliqiao1: so -1 for unit tests, otherwise seems fine15:34
eliqiao1mriedem: okay , will refine it next week :)15:34
eliqiao1thanks mriedem:15:34
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markus_zAnyone a hint for me what the purpose of the "opts" modules is?15:41
markus_zI couldn't find a caller for the "list_opts" method.15:41
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kashyapmarkus_z: Is that what you're referring to? - http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api/nova.cells.opts.html15:46
mriedemmarkus_z: it's for buidling the nova.conf.sampel15:46
markus_zkashyap: Yes, that's one of them.15:46
markus_zmriedem: Ahhh, thanks, I didn't think of that.15:46
mriedemmarkus_z: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/setup.cfg#L2915:47
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tox.ini#L13915:47
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/etc/nova/nova-config-generator.conf15:47
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markus_zmriedem: Why is the separation done by namespaces? Was there a specific reason in the past?15:51
markus_z(and maybe it still exists)15:52
mriedemmarkus_z: those are the groups15:52
mriedemlike the [cells] group15:52
mriedem[libvirt] group15:52
mriedemetc15:52
mriedemwell i guess the groups are in the namespace15:52
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/opts.py15:52
mriedemi'm not exactly sure what the namespace does, dims would be the person to ask15:53
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markus_zOK, I get the correlation now, thank you.15:54
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make pagination tolerate a deleted marker  https://review.openstack.org/20955417:04
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Adds resource classes  https://review.openstack.org/12899917:34
openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Add object models for comparing resource amounts  https://review.openstack.org/12899217:34
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openstackgerritSukhdev Kapur proposed openstack/nova: Adding a new vnic_type for Ironic/Neutron/Nova integration  https://review.openstack.org/21326417:39
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openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: Allow CPU/RAM overcommit when using NUMATopologyFilter  https://review.openstack.org/21326817:43
cfriesendanpb: does a change like this ^ make sense to you?17:43
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cfriesendanpb: there's still a case where we refuse to allow pinned CPUs and overcommitted RAM, need to handle that too.17:44
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openstackgerritSukhdev Kapur proposed openstack/nova: Adding a new vnic_type for Ironic/Neutron/Nova integration  https://review.openstack.org/21326417:53
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openstackgerritSukhdev Kapur proposed openstack/nova: Adding a new vnic_type for Ironic/Neutron/Nova integration  https://review.openstack.org/21326417:57
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openstackgerritj_king proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add wait for vif unplug events on destroy  https://review.openstack.org/21012618:26
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mriedemthorst: did i ever mention that powerkvm novnc issue to you18:52
mriedem?18:52
mriedemjwcroppe: ^18:52
mriedemturns out,18:54
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mriedemit's worth several thousand dollars of developer hours for me to read the doc page on running novnc with openstack and asking, 'is nova-consoleauth running?'18:55
mriedemcha ching18:55
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openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova: Add ability to override network templace from InstanceMetadata  https://review.openstack.org/17834019:24
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thorstmriedem: sorry - had stepped away19:28
jwcroppemriedem: lol19:28
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jwcroppemriedem: well, at least that is solved now!  start the service :)19:30
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Fix host_mamager to use monitor metric objects  https://review.openstack.org/21331719:51
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Fix host_mamager to use monitor metric objects  https://review.openstack.org/21331719:54
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Fix host_mamager to use monitor metric objects  https://review.openstack.org/21331719:55
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add persistence to the RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/21175320:38
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Move objects registration in tests directory  https://review.openstack.org/21215920:38
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particlemanHello friends. Is this the right channel to ask about how to modify libvirt.xml for a given openstack instance?20:56
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Load flavor when getting instances for simple-tenant-usage  https://review.openstack.org/21334020:58
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superdanmriedem: sorry, you pinged me about something earlier and I totally ignored you21:01
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mriedemsuperdan: i just added you to said thing21:01
mriedemand now i'm heading out21:01
superdanokay21:02
mriedemnot a high priority21:02
mriedemjust something i came across today21:02
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/nova: IGNORE: Add bindep dependencies list  https://review.openstack.org/16444421:02
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superdanmriedem: I'm about to +2 said thing21:03
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superdanmriedem: I have had a patch up to fix that for a couple weeks, with very little review21:04
superdanmriedem: but happy to let you fix that piece and then I'll rebase mine on top21:04
mriedemfor that api extension?21:08
mriedemor related?21:08
mriedemanyway, whatevs. gotta head out, ttyl21:08
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add persistence to the RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/21175321:10
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Add rootwrap daemon mode support  https://review.openstack.org/18069523:34
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Specify current directory using new cwd param in processutils.execute  https://review.openstack.org/19160423:35
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