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| alex_xu | melwitt: sdague johnthetubaguy, good mid-night~ ^ there is fix about novaclient for you when you guys wakeup, looks like novaclient was broken when running with nova legacy v2 api | 02:38 |
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| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: Can you remove you proceedural -2's from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128992 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128999 ? | 03:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Use version convert methods from oslo_utils.versionutils https://review.openstack.org/203322 | 04:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Fix wrong method name in doc filter_scheduler https://review.openstack.org/229250 | 04:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chaoyi Huang proposed openstack/nova-specs: Expose quiece unquiece API https://review.openstack.org/237881 | 05:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Chaoyi Huang proposed openstack/nova-specs: Expose quiece unquiece API https://review.openstack.org/237881 | 05:32 |
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| tobasco | when attaching a volume (booting an instance with a volume) the size of the volume get's counted towards the local_gd_used in the compute_nodes table, is that by design? our local disk usage is showing red all the time since we provision instances on volumes and those volumes get's counted towards the local storage used on the hypervisor | 06:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | lyanchih proposed openstack/nova: Notify users if libguestfs can't read host kernel https://review.openstack.org/237547 | 06:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | yapeng Yang proposed openstack/nova: Change 'ec2-api' stackforge url to openstack url https://review.openstack.org/237394 | 06:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/236188 | 06:18 |
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| tobasco | http://download.bareos.org/bareos/contrib/Debian_8.0/ | 06:27 |
| tobasco | deb http://download.bareos.org/bareos/contrib/Debian_8.0/ ( | 06:28 |
| tobasco | sorry wrong window | 06:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Augustina Ragwitz proposed openstack/python-novaclient: make project_id optional in urls for version discovery https://review.openstack.org/234782 | 07:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Abhijeet Malawade proposed openstack/nova: Replace N block_device_mapping queries with 1 https://review.openstack.org/229964 | 07:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Abhijeet Malawade proposed openstack/nova: Pass bdm info to _get_instance_disk_info method https://review.openstack.org/221162 | 07:12 |
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| diana_clarke | How can I tell what changed between 2 patch sets in a gerrit review? | 07:50 |
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| tobasco | the local_gb_used increases in the compute_nodes table when deploying instances with a cinder volume as root volume, so no local storage is used on the compute nodes, is that correct? | 07:59 |
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| prometheanfire | there a known bug for where the glance settings are not obeyed? | 08:05 |
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| prometheanfire | set up glace for ssl, and nova will only connect to the catalog, which is ssl, via plaintext | 08:05 |
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| prometheanfire | https://gist.github.com/prometheanfire/17e37697981b060b9c74 nova's configured correctly to bypass the ssl (since it can't seem to handle that) | 08:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenzan Zhou proposed openstack/nova: scheduler: fix incorrect log message https://review.openstack.org/237914 | 08:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add project id and user id information in os-server-group API https://review.openstack.org/209917 | 08:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Hua proposed openstack/nova: [Xen] Correct hypervisor type in Horizon's admin view https://review.openstack.org/237374 | 08:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chaoyi Huang proposed openstack/nova-specs: Expose quiece unquiece API https://review.openstack.org/237881 | 08:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Guryanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add nova volume driver for vzstorage https://review.openstack.org/190843 | 08:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow more instance operations during live migration https://review.openstack.org/226199 | 08:57 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: I can't remove the -2 until the blueprint is approved, in this case: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/resource-objects | 09:02 |
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| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: Ahh okay. | 09:02 |
| * tonyb looks for the mitaka update for that. | 09:02 | |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I think some of nova-client change was on purpose, but I need to look closer | 09:03 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea, i guess so | 09:03 |
| alex_xu | but i didn't get very clear | 09:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I think the ideas was to not default to requesting 2.latest, but instead just negociate the latest version up to some high watermark we have tested against with that version of the client | 09:05 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: that is what API_MAX_VERSION used to. I didn't get why we change DEFAULT_OS_COMPUTE_API_VERSION | 09:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I am not sure then | 09:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I don't think we want to send 2.latest to the API ever from the CLI, how do we stop that happening | 09:08 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: 2.latest in DEFAULT_OS_COMPUTE_API_VERSION means let CLI find out a version which supported by client and server. API_MAX_VERSION was client supported max version. If we limit API_MAX_VERSION to 2.5, even server up than 2.5, the client will still use 2.5 | 09:09 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: 2.latest won't send to the API, it is just special keyword, tell the client to do the negotiation | 09:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: ah, OK, what does 2.5 mean, always request 2.5? | 09:10 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: 2.5 means the client supported max version. If server is lower than 2.5, then CLI will use the max version of server. If server is upper than 2.5, then CLI will use the 2.5 | 09:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: that sounds correct, when you say it like that | 09:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: so there is an extra bit 2.11 is actually supported for some API calls, the issue is 2.6 doesn't work, https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/commit/d045019f0f2d28f26730b3617f7d7b993506b6e8 | 09:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: maybe there is just no way around disabling that | 09:13 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea, we only can bump API_MAX_VERSION by order, we can't just skip some of implemetation between API_MIN_VERSION and API_MAX_VERSION | 09:14 |
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| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: When you're done with alex_xu ... I'm confused. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184534/ is the liberty resource-objects spec and it was merged on June 23rd. which was the day after you said "Removing milestone as blueprint is not yet complete. In fact the nova-spec is still being reviewed. --johnthetubaguy 22nd June 2015". So did the blueprint approval get missed? or does Jay need to re-propse for mitaka? | 09:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: a spec is only ever approved for a single release: https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs#previously-approved-specifications | 09:18 |
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| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: okay. Thanks for clearing that up. | 09:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: see the bottom right of the diagram here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Process#Overview | 09:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: the reason is so we can be sure to review that its still the best approach given what happened in the last cycle, but we do tend to fast track them with a single +2 +W most of the time. | 09:20 |
| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: Makes sense. I'll look for Jay and see if he's still going to drive it. | 09:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: the other ways for doing that just seemed way too complicated (like being approved for 12 months, or something like that) | 09:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: I think there are a bunch of summit sessions about the resource modeling, where he is wanting agreement on stuff | 09:21 |
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| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: I got spec isn't implemented aspect. I just hadn't made the connection to 'partially implemented' | 09:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: gotcha, those do confuse things | 09:23 |
| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: Ahh I even see the spec in question on the agenda for Jay's first session. | 09:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, cool | 09:23 |
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| tangchen | johnthetubaguy: Hi, about the host maintenance mode, I understood the things you talked about. And I think I'd better stop the work. Thanks. | 09:31 |
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| markus_z | tangchen: I think you will get a lot of support if you push a blueprint which is going to deprecate the host maintenance mode :) | 09:33 |
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| tangchen | markus_z: Thanks. Will do it. | 09:35 |
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| dguitarbite | hello, just a question about libvirt driver.py. What are the values in the variable os_type? I want to see if I could get a specific os version for an if/else clause in libvirt/driver.py | 09:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: it would be great if you can help us document the best way forward | 09:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: like add some docs on how to use those python-novaclient methods to empty a compute host | 09:37 |
| tangchen | johnthetubaguy: Sure. And you guys really helped me to understand this better. Thanks. | 09:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: happy to help, I always tell folks its important to be clear about the problem you are trying to solve, partly in case it has already been solved | 09:38 |
| tonyb | dguitarbite: IIUC it's more gerneral that OS version things like 'linux', 'windows' or 'freebsd' | 09:38 |
| tangchen | johnthetubaguy: BTW, there is a project named python-openstackclient there. Is novaclient going to be deprecated in the future ? | 09:39 |
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| tangchen | johnthetubaguy: In another words, if I want to do some improvements on the client side, which project should I send patch to ? | 09:40 |
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| dguitarbite | tonyb: thanks, the problem is with libvirt XEN part where in the XML files are not filled with defaults which are left empty for some reason. | 09:40 |
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| danpb | dguitarbite: which specific line are you looking at for os_type | 09:42 |
| danpb | there are several things called os type which are different | 09:42 |
| danpb | so need to know which you're looking at | 09:42 |
| dguitarbite | danpb: this is my code for now, but I think the hardcoding the path is not good. | 09:42 |
| dguitarbite | if libvirt.virt_type == 'xen': | 09:43 |
| dguitarbite | guest.os_kernel = '/usr/lib/grub2/x86_64-xen/grub.xen' | 09:43 |
| dguitarbite | this is for booting guests with grub2 | 09:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: its a good question, currently both are kind of going on, but yes, I expect python-novaclient to eventually get killed off, just right now its the only one that support the new v2.1 API | 09:43 |
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| dguitarbite | So this path works for SLE12 | 09:44 |
| dguitarbite | not sure if it will be valid for other distros. | 09:44 |
| danpb | just submit a patch with that path, and let other reviewers report if its a problem for their distro | 09:45 |
| tangchen | johnthetubaguy: So we should make openstackclient support v2.1 API ? Or what is the long time plan ? Just in case I do something fool again. :) | 09:45 |
| dguitarbite | danpb: thanks, Ill do that. | 09:45 |
| dguitarbite | danpb: is there a way to configure libvirt to set this flag in the XML with default value(s)? Or its not being set for a particular reason. | 09:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | dguitarbite: is that an external kernel you are booting? not quite sure what the flag in libvirt is doing, just looking it up | 09:46 |
| dguitarbite | johnthetubaguy: its path to the bootloader not to kernel. Not exactly sure why the tag in libvirt xml for xen falls under kernel! | 09:47 |
| dguitarbite | johnthetubaguy: but manually setting this xml flag to this path allows the guest os to boot. | 09:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | dguitarbite: I guess I was expecting the use of pygrub or something like that | 09:48 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: this is a replacement for pygrub & pvgrub | 09:48 |
| danpb | https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/01/07/using-grub-2-as-a-bootloader-for-xen-pv-guests/ | 09:49 |
| danpb | this blog explains it quite nicely | 09:49 |
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| danpb | as far as the hypervisor is concerned grub.xen is a kernel image | 09:49 |
| danpb | it just happens to be a bootloader masquerading as a kernel, which then launches the real kernel | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: yeah, I guess you boot grub | 09:49 |
| danpb | so setting guest.os_kernel is the correct thing todo | 09:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess I was expecting us to do that as an external kernel in glance, but thats a bit dumb in this case | 09:50 |
| danpb | johnthetubaguy: users should in fact already be able todo just that | 09:50 |
| danpb | i guess dguitarbite is trying to make it a bit more seemless | 09:51 |
| danpb | so users can just upload the disk image and have it "just work" | 09:51 |
| BobBall | dguitarbite: Can I suggest that you make the kernel a config option as that path is unlikely to be the same for all distros; having a config option makes it the installer's choice where this kernel is | 09:51 |
| dguitarbite | danpb: yes, I am trying to make it more seamless. | 09:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | dguitarbite: I guess this fails with windows, is that the os_type question? | 09:51 |
| dguitarbite | BobBall: yes, that would be a good alternative. Since for guests with grub1, the path *may* not be the same. | 09:52 |
| dguitarbite | johnthetubaguy: yes, kind of! But if I add a configuration option for libvirt/xen, then this should be much easier. | 09:52 |
| danpb | i would have thought that grub could boot any type of guest os, no ? | 09:53 |
| danpb | oh, but is this only in the paravirt guest codepath | 09:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: oh, maybe thats enough of a restriction actually, just do it for PV images | 09:54 |
| dguitarbite | danpb: yes, this should be for PV images (but its my guess) | 09:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | dguitarbite: yeah, booting the kernel isn't an option for HVM, thats emulated bios world, etc | 09:55 |
| anthonyper | dguitarbite: I think grub.xen PV only. HVM guests can have there one bootloader on the disk image | 09:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | anthonyper: yeah, +1, I think thats good in this case | 09:56 |
| BobBall | anthonyper :) Any insight in where grub.xen is in other distros? is it always /usr/lib/grub2/x86_64-xen/grub.xen ? | 09:56 |
| anthonyper | I have no idee :( | 09:56 |
| BobBall | bah! | 09:56 |
| danpb | we have the hw_vm_mode property in image meta to indicate xen vs hvm guests | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: +1 I am just wondering if that is enough here | 09:57 |
| danpb | so you should just toggle based off that - can't remember what libvirt driver uses as the defualt if that's not set | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | like does grub2 read all the configurations pygrub could | 09:57 |
| anthonyper | by default, it's xen. | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | anthonyper: any ideas on grub2 support for legacy stuff, I notice the need for chainloaders in the blog entry, seems like it could be image specific | 09:58 |
| danpb | ok, so early on in libvirt get_guest_config we do | 09:58 |
| danpb | guest.os_type = (vm_mode.get_from_instance(instance) or | 09:58 |
| danpb | self._get_guest_os_type(virt_type)) | 09:58 |
| danpb | so you should toggle based on guest.os_type == vm_mode.XEN | 09:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: anthonyper: I guess the XenCI is doing PV guests rather than HVM? | 09:59 |
| BobBall | Correct | 09:59 |
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| anthonyper | johnthetubaguy: we can not do hvm :( | 09:59 |
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| BobBall | Both for libvirt+xen and XenServer | 10:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 10:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am thinking about if using grub2 needs to be image specific | 10:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | beyond just PV mode | 10:00 |
| BobBall | Until Rackspace gives us newer CPUs and we swtich to Xen 4.6 HVM is a pain :) | 10:00 |
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| BobBall | Actually, it needs to be Rackspace upgrading to XenServer Dundee on the newer CPUs then we can run nested HVM | 10:01 |
| BobBall | :P | 10:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: newer CPUs? | 10:01 |
| anthonyper | johnthetubaguy: well grub2 vs legacy have nothing xen specific, I think one need to at least add grub2 config that load a legacy grub | 10:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: whats the CPU flag its dependent on? | 10:02 |
| BobBall | EPT | 10:02 |
| BobBall | http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Nested_Virtualization_in_Xen | 10:02 |
| BobBall | hmmm - I thought there was a newer flag that was depended on... EPT has been around for ages | 10:03 |
| BobBall | Was it just that the support was recently fixed in Xen? anthonyper? | 10:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: yeah, I was going to say, fairly sure we have EPT on the Xeon based stuff in general1 that you are using | 10:04 |
| danpb | you really want Haswell CPUs, as intel finally addressed the architectural mistakes that made nested-virt super painful | 10:04 |
| BobBall | Thanks danpb :) | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: yeah, that sounds right | 10:04 |
| danpb | https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2014/09/08/four-new-virtualization-technologies-on-the-latest-intel-xeon-are-you-ready-to | 10:04 |
| danpb | "VMCS Shadowing - accelerates nested virtualization" | 10:04 |
| BobBall | I knew I'd heard something like that before | 10:04 |
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| anthonyper | BobBall: I'm not sure nested virtualization is ready, they might be some security concern | 10:05 |
| BobBall | It'd work fine for a CI with no untrusted guests though - which is what johnthetubaguy was asking about | 10:05 |
| danpb | anthonyper: rackspace could always switch to running KVM to provide nested virt if xen is not ready ;-P | 10:06 |
| BobBall | i.e. having the CI prove HVM guests by using nested virt; but in production you don't need nested virt and run the HVM guests direct | 10:06 |
| * johnthetubaguy make a note :-p | 10:06 | |
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| BobBall | shush danpb! :) | 10:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: so I think you are currently on CPU E5-2670 which should have what you need based on that blog danpb noted | 10:10 |
| BobBall | Ah. Just need to get you upgraded to XenServer Dundee then for the latest Xen :) | 10:10 |
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| dguitarbite | thanks guys, I will consider the best way to give a configuration option in this case since its clear that the variables are grub2 or legacy grub and also unknown if the path to grub.xen (kernel) is the same for other distros. And ofcourse, this may be a problem with windows images too ... I wish life was simpler | 10:11 |
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| anthonyper | dguitarbite: There is no issue with windows images. Those would need to be run as HVM, and there is no need for grub.xen in this case. | 10:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dguitarbite: +1 on anthonyper's point on windows, I forgot this was a PV only thing to start with | 10:15 |
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| dguitarbite | Ahh! Ok. Makes it a bit better. | 10:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Simona Iuliana Toader proposed openstack/nova: objects: added 'os_secure_boot' property to ImageMetaProps object https://review.openstack.org/237593 | 10:21 |
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| kashyap | BobBall: Speaking of EPT, also see nEPT, FWIW, from my past simple testing (Kernel compiles with 'defconfig'), nEPT was performant (about 8-9 times) than Shadow page tables over EPT. | 10:27 |
| kashyap | BobBall: Related slides by a previous KVM maintainer - http://www.linux-kvm.org/images/8/8c/Kvm-forum-2013-nested-ept.pdf | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtuozzo instance rescue mode support https://review.openstack.org/217679 | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Enable options for oslo.reports https://review.openstack.org/216917 | 10:40 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: you have enough rax credentials to try the latest novaclient fix? | 10:42 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: Hello Sean. Please look at oslo.cache patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203049/ | 10:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I should have, you mean the one from alex_xu? | 10:44 |
| pkholkin | waiting your review so much | 10:44 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, I'm pretty sure it's spot on | 10:45 |
| sdague | pkholkin: looking | 10:45 |
| sdague | pkholkin: ok, so if, after this patch, I delete memcached_servers from my config file | 10:48 |
| sdague | and add [cache] memcache_servers instead | 10:48 |
| sdague | what happens? | 10:48 |
| pkholkin | it should be done in N | 10:48 |
| sdague | pkholkin: that's not deprecation | 10:49 |
| sdague | deprecation means *both* options need to work now, and one goes away later | 10:49 |
| pkholkin | now only default memcached_servers will work | 10:49 |
| sdague | ok, so that's wrong | 10:49 |
| sdague | the moment this patch lands, the new option has to work | 10:50 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: we have a suggestion, what if we add oslo.cache options to nova, here write 'url = CONF.memcached_servers or CONF.cache.memcache_servers' | 10:55 |
| pkholkin | but we really will use only one option from oslo.cache now | 10:55 |
| sdague | pkholkin: ok, that's better | 10:56 |
| sdague | but I don't understand why this is such a shallow integration, why aren't other parts of oslo cache used? | 10:56 |
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| sdague | mostly, think of this from the operator perspective. What are our goals. | 10:58 |
| pkholkin | in future we think to use also 'expiration_time' and 'backend' opts for getting oslo.cache client in nova.util; | 10:58 |
| pkholkin | in future we think to use also 'expiration_time' and 'backend' opts for getting oslo.cache client in nova.utils | 10:58 |
| sdague | 1) we need to warn them something is going way | 10:58 |
| sdague | 2) we need to give them info about what the new thing is, so they can change it as soon as they get around to it to remove the warning | 10:59 |
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| sdague | also, what happens if they set both things, to different values | 10:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: it does seem to fix it, will vote on the patch | 11:00 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, great. I remember when mriedem did that patch that I was unsure about the way versions were used, but with no rax credentials, can't poke. | 11:01 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: would be nice if they brought that dev program back :) | 11:01 |
| danpb | johnthetubaguy: can we close the mid-cycle location poll now, while Bristol is winning ;-) | 11:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, been prodding folks a lot, but no luck, there is developer+ but it only lasts 12 months | 11:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: its tempting :) | 11:02 |
| kashyap | A tiddler - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227779/1. All its deps are merged. | 11:03 |
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| sdague | kashyap: how is oslo.reports handling that deprecation for people that were using the old interface? | 11:08 |
| kashyap | sdague: Hmm, since it's an arbitrary debugging mechanism, we've added a DocImpact | 11:09 |
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| sdague | kashyap: I'm sort of surprised that a change like this wasn't fyied out to the ops list. I expect they are the top users of this kind of feature. | 11:10 |
| kashyap | sdague: IIRC, there was a discussion on #openstack-oslo about it | 11:10 |
| sdague | kashyap: yeh, discussion in irc doesn't count as public signaling of changing an interface :) | 11:10 |
| kashyap | sdague: haypo and a couple of others (trying to dig the convo) agreed about it. | 11:10 |
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| kashyap | sdague: Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll write a note to the operators list, and -dev list? | 11:10 |
| sdague | kashyap: probably appropriate, circle with dims about how he wants to signal something like this | 11:11 |
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| sdague | but it's one of those features that's been around for long enough that a change in how you trigger it probably impacts a number of folks | 11:11 |
| kashyap | sdague: Okido | 11:11 |
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| kashyap | Yeah, FWIW, danpb commented as well somewhere (and dims agreed, too) that deprecation isn't really needed in this case. As it's not really a 'primary' debugging interface | 11:12 |
| kashyap | But I see your point. | 11:13 |
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| kashyap | dims: ^^ When you're about, please see the question for you from Sean. | 11:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support for shared volumes between guests https://review.openstack.org/212508 | 11:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | lyanchih proposed openstack/nova: Listing volumes does not provide a link to next element https://review.openstack.org/237999 | 11:36 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: matt is on vacation all week | 11:43 |
| sdague | and the current shipped release of novaclient is breaking folks | 11:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Removes support for Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 https://review.openstack.org/237643 | 11:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Fixes disk overhead claim issue https://review.openstack.org/234283 | 11:47 |
| dims | sdague: SIGUSR2 change was made for Mitaka not Liberty, last discussion was to add to ReleaseNotes wiki for M when it opens up | 11:47 |
| sdague | dims: sure, it's still a change | 11:48 |
| sdague | to an interface probably mostly used by ops trying to figure out what's going on | 11:48 |
| kashyap | dims: I'm writing a small note, will provide a pastebin URL here, if you'd like to review. | 11:48 |
| dims | kashyap: ++ | 11:48 |
| sdague | and we explicitly support CD deployments | 11:48 |
| sdague | which means we need to assume it's already now deployed | 11:49 |
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| sdague | http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html - this really feels like it falls in "operator-visible features" | 11:50 |
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| dims | sdague: what's the novaclient problem? | 11:56 |
| sdague | dims: the logic to fall back when versions aren't presented at all was a bit off | 11:57 |
| sdague | a couple of things got inverted in matt's patch | 11:57 |
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| mhorban | @johnthetubaguy | 11:58 |
| mhorban | @johnthetubaguy Hello | 11:58 |
| mhorban | @johnthetubaguy Could you please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237588/ | 11:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3 https://review.openstack.org/232554 | 12:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Expands python34 unit tests list https://review.openstack.org/231948 | 12:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 compatibility for filter results https://review.openstack.org/232620 | 12:12 |
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| kashyap | dims: sdague: If you want to take a quick peek - http://paste.openstack.org/show/476992/ | 12:19 |
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| edleafe | diana_clarke: (reading the scrollback) did you ever get an answer to your question? | 12:26 |
| edleafe | diana_clarke: and what are you doing awake at 4am *before* the baby? :) | 12:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3 https://review.openstack.org/232554 | 12:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces __builtin__ with six.moves.builtins https://review.openstack.org/238029 | 12:33 |
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| dims | kashyap: LGTM. ship it! | 12:34 |
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| kashyap | dims: Thanks, made a tiny edit to avoid repetition of a word, will send it. | 12:35 |
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| tojuvone | sdague: you were wondering the maintenance flow in https://review.openstack.org/192246 ? | 12:40 |
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| mriedem | Mickey mouse reminds me of Michael jackson; lives on a kingdom, has a girlfriend but is mostly interested in children. | 12:41 |
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| rdopiera | I've never seen a single child in any mickey mouse movie | 12:44 |
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| kashyap | mriedem: Hey, someone told you were supposed to be on holiday :-) | 12:44 |
| tojuvone | sdague: so what can user do to his instances when MAINTENANCE? can we talk here or would you like me to add more about it to spec? | 12:44 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: hi, good morning, there is one patch hope you can take a look at https://review.openstack.org/237850 | 12:45 |
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| * alex_xu don't understand what relationship about Mickey mouse and Michael Jackson | 12:45 | |
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| kashyap | alex_xu: Read his Wikipedia page for some context :-) | 12:46 |
| sdague | tojuvone: I'd like to see what kind of API flow you'd expect a user application to use if this information was here | 12:46 |
| sdague | tojuvone: because every idea I have in my head requires getting admin credentials at some point | 12:47 |
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| alex_xu | kashyap: ha, thanks, let me try wiki | 12:47 |
| sdague | mriedem: if you are taking a break from mickey - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237850/ | 12:47 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: we updated warning and added OR to use both options, we checked the patch on devstack so that options are got correctly | 12:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: Switch to oslo.cache lib https://review.openstack.org/203049 | 12:49 |
| pkholkin | please look, thanks | 12:49 |
| mhorban | @sdague: Hello and how are you! | 12:49 |
| tojuvone | sdague: Yes, I guess only delete instance and launch it somewhere else is what user can normally do. But this is more like some Telco / HA user scenario | 12:51 |
| tojuvone | sdague: sorry, not launch somewhere else, but create new | 12:51 |
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| mhorban | @sdague: Could you please look at review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237588/. I left answer and question there | 12:52 |
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| tojuvone | sdague: HA case might be to make switchover, delete, create new standby instance | 12:52 |
| sdague | tojuvone: yes, so please put a detailed example in there, because my instinct is that this info isn't really going to give you what you need | 12:52 |
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| mriedem | reviews on my phone don't go well. | 12:53 |
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| sdague | tojuvone: sure, but if the compute service is UNKNOWN then what? | 12:53 |
| sdague | mhorban: will look | 12:53 |
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| tojuvone | sdague: Then there would always be something that might automize instance specifically what to do if with admin rights. User would have had indication in his instance that external admin tool will make some evacuate etc. | 12:54 |
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| sdague | tojuvone: it seems like most of your workflows are going to require a force-down | 12:54 |
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| sdague | which means it's not useful for non admin | 12:54 |
| sdague | anyway, I think if you write up a couple of the scenarios you expect | 12:54 |
| sdague | and say the application will call: this api with these params, then this api with these params, then this other api with other params | 12:55 |
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| sdague | it will make it clear one way or another if this api solves this issue | 12:55 |
| tojuvone | sdague: In environment where this is valid there will be external monitoring tool with admin rights that will make the force_down | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes .keys()[0] references for Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/232585 | 12:56 |
| sdague | tojuvone: ok, that's fine, but when we talk about adding APIs to Nova we have to understand how they work in all kinds of situations | 12:56 |
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| tojuvone | unknown woudl mean that user will know there might be something wrong with his instance and will make switchover | 12:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: Switch to oslo.cache lib https://review.openstack.org/203049 | 12:58 |
| mhorban | sdague: Thanks | 12:58 |
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| tojuvone | Right. Now this will be behind policy as will mostly be for this HA kind of users, but anyhow I see the point of explaining the different cases. | 12:59 |
| diana_clarke | edleafe: No, I didn't get an answer yet. So if you can point me in the right direction, that would be great! :) | 12:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support for shared volumes between guests https://review.openstack.org/212508 | 12:59 |
| diana_clarke | edleafe: In this case, I know it was just a rebase because I didn't lose the +2 I had on the review. | 12:59 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: Sean, please look at our discussed problem with options https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203049 | 12:59 |
| diana_clarke | edleafe: It's still unclear to me why someone rebased my patch that didn | 12:59 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: commented | 13:00 |
| diana_clarke | edleafe: oops. I'll try that again: It's still unclear to me why someone rebased my patch that didn't have any conflicts etc. | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: thanks, especial from phone and vacation | 13:00 |
| tojuvone | sdague: Thanks, I will look into explaining scenarios in the spec. | 13:01 |
| sdague | mriedem: so the issue is your code only works on servers that report microversions | 13:01 |
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| sdague | on ones that don't, it explodes | 13:01 |
| diana_clarke | edleafe: Anyhoo, I'm probably missing some obvious concept. Thanks! | 13:02 |
| ildikov | hi. is there a nova core, who could abandon a spec review for me: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192755/ ? | 13:02 |
| edleafe | diana_clarke: open up any file in the patch set, and at the top you'll see "Patch Set Base 1 2 ..." | 13:02 |
| edleafe | diana_clarke: the default is Base on the left, and the latest on the right | 13:02 |
| diana_clarke | edleafe: I did find that, but you have do it file by file. There's no summary diff? | 13:03 |
| edleafe | diana_clarke: Not that I know of | 13:03 |
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| sdague | mriedem: which thing failed before your patch, maybe we can write a test to confirm that | 13:03 |
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| edleafe | diana_clarke: you can grab separate versions with git review and store them in different branches locally, and diff them there | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces __builtin__ with six.moves.builtins https://review.openstack.org/238029 | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: API_MAX_VERSION in novaclient/__init__.py will limit the client only works under 2.5, so that won't trigger the initial bug | 13:04 |
| diana_clarke | edleafe: thanks, that might be easier for reviews with a bunch of files. | 13:04 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: I saw in irc that mriedem is on vacation this week | 13:04 |
| pkholkin | oh seems he is here) | 13:05 |
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| edleafe | diana_clarke: yeah, if you rebase a dependent patch and push it, it will push the ancestor patch, too. That's what seems to have happened to yours. | 13:06 |
| pkholkin | mriedem: Hello Matt, do you have some time to look at oslo.cache patch ? | 13:06 |
| pkholkin | Brant Knudson left positive answer there | 13:06 |
| pkholkin | but we made some changes | 13:07 |
| diana_clarke | edleafe: Ah, so gerrit auto-committed that patch set, and then assigned the bug to someone else? That was kind of it... it only took forever to stop getting false CI failures ;) | 13:07 |
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| mriedem | sdague it was getting vnc console before the latest microversion for that was supported in the client | 13:08 |
| edleafe | diana_clarke: yeah, the latest committer to a PS that references a bug gets that bug assigned to them | 13:08 |
| mriedem | doffm had a patch to add that support | 13:08 |
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| mriedem | sdague anyway I +2ed | 13:08 |
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| ildikov | mriedem: hi | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: thanks | 13:09 |
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| ildikov | mriedem: is your phone useable for abandoning a patch too or only for reviews? :) | 13:10 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: the problem that oslo.cache always has default value https://github.com/openstack/oslo.cache/blob/master/oslo_cache/_opts.py#L65 | 13:11 |
| mriedem | ildikov any core can abandon | 13:11 |
| sdague | pkholkin: that seems kind of broken | 13:11 |
| diana_clarke | edleafe: ah well, this baby is going to come before that patch lands anyway | 13:11 |
| diana_clarke | edleafe: thanks for all your help! | 13:11 |
| ildikov | mriedem: I have this spec review that needs a push on the abandon button: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192755/ | 13:11 |
| edleafe | diana_clarke: np | 13:12 |
| sdague | pkholkin: what enables or disables memcache in those circumstances | 13:12 |
| ildikov | mriedem: the content is merged to another spec already | 13:12 |
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| mriedem | Not working on the phone | 13:13 |
| sdague | pkholkin: that seems to lead us into a pretty weird place | 13:13 |
| sdague | because we're telling folks to use a new value | 13:13 |
| mriedem | Gotta go | 13:13 |
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| sdague | but if they set the new value, we can't have it overwrite the old value | 13:13 |
| pkholkin | sdague: servicegroup_driver = mc, do you mean it? | 13:13 |
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| sdague | because the new library defaults it to something which may or may not be sensible | 13:13 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: user should remove default value and add new cache value, we can't make it with higher priority because of default | 13:16 |
| sdague | pkholkin: I'm getting very close to saying we need a spec on this, because how this gets deprecated seems not straight forward | 13:16 |
| sdague | pkholkin: right, so a lot of this is going to be set in config management, so we need to assume that someone will mess up and set both | 13:17 |
| sdague | just telling the user "don't do that" isn't good enough | 13:17 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: and will this code be ok if oslo.cache doesn't have its default value | 13:19 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: we thought that old nova option is better right now and new option will be ok too if user changes values correctly as it is said in warning | 13:21 |
| sdague | pkholkin: honestly, I feel like we've done 5 revisions here and it's still not hugely straight forward | 13:22 |
| sdague | so before proposing any other changes, can we get a doc written up about how we expect this transition to work, under all the possibilities for the operator's current config that's relevant | 13:22 |
| sdague | because I think there is a big picture missing here | 13:23 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: the last version is the only one that could support both versions, do you have some other ideas? | 13:30 |
| pkholkin | dims: hello dims, could you please participate in our discussion | 13:30 |
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| sdague | pkholkin: I feel like the burden here needs to be on the oslo.cache side with what could current configs look like, and various scenarios on how that would play out. | 13:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Filter out inactive compute before computing avaible resources https://review.openstack.org/180155 | 13:32 |
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| dims | pkholkin: on a call, be there in a little bit | 13:34 |
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| pkholkin | dims: ok | 13:35 |
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| sdague | pkholkin: I'm going to -2 this until we get some kind of document on the deprecation, because https://github.com/openstack/oslo.cache/blob/master/oslo_cache/_opts.py#L56 also concerns me, that means all caching will be off by default, right? | 13:35 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: this is only for using get_memoization_decorator | 13:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support for shared volumes between guests https://review.openstack.org/212508 | 13:41 |
| pkholkin | not for this case I think | 13:41 |
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| pkholkin | sdague: I don't fully agree that this deprecation is wrong, we support two variants (old default and new oslo.cache), first has higher priority, in warning we described how to use the new way and what value will be used | 13:44 |
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| pkholkin | the only thing that we remove runtimeerror, but user will not have problems on installed envs without extra changes so the warning will help him | 13:45 |
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| sdague | pkholkin: that's why I'd like a document describing how this is going to get hit and what happens, because I feel like we've talked about a bunch of little specifics, and I'm sure I don't have the full picture any more. | 13:47 |
| sdague | pkholkin: it's also really weird if a config option which says "Global toggle for caching." isn't | 13:47 |
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| mhorban | sdague: Could you please explain why it is important to have name of logger exactly "nova.osapi_compute.wsgi.server" in nova? | 13:58 |
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| sdague | mhorban: because people are going to have logstash rules tracking that | 13:59 |
| sdague | or grep rules | 13:59 |
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| sdague | to issolate those requests | 13:59 |
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| sdague | that's what tells them it's an API request | 13:59 |
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| sdague | it will also potentially impact what shows up because we support local python logging stanzas | 14:00 |
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| sdague | krotscheck: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236993 - what's the validation plan for cors? | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: make project_id optional in urls for version discovery https://review.openstack.org/234782 | 14:07 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: Validation plan? | 14:10 |
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| sdague | krotscheck: right, so I'm injecting a new piece of middleware in all deploys and all test runs | 14:10 |
| sdague | how do I know it's working | 14:10 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: I'm coming up with a set of tests right now, but frankly there's a lot of overhead to figuring out the dev environments for each of the 15 proejcts against which I've proposed this. Priority will be given to those that complain the loudest on the reviews. | 14:12 |
| sdague | krotscheck: is there any fullstack testing that would demonstrate it for all of them? | 14:13 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: Is there a place where I can run tests against everything? | 14:13 |
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| sdague | well, devstack + tempest gets you a bunch of them | 14:13 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: It's as "simple" as setting up every service with a particular configuration file, and then hitting the root URL of every one with a specific set of headers. | 14:14 |
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| sdague | krotscheck: is that written down in a place, maybe I can help in proposing how we do that | 14:15 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: Not formally. I've got an eterhpad. | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Expands python34 unit tests list https://review.openstack.org/231948 | 14:15 |
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| mhorban | sdague: Make sense...So I can add additional argument in Server constructor. The name of logger. Are you agree with this fix? | 14:16 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: Also, there's a bit of a chicken-egg problem here. I can't test them until they land, but some of the services won't land them without tests. | 14:16 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cors-hitlist | 14:20 |
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| garyk | would it be possible that a nova driver core please look at https://review.openstack.org/230425 | 14:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: make project_id optional in urls for version discovery https://review.openstack.org/234782 | 14:22 |
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| sdague | mhorban: honestly, I'm still kind of concerned because that oslo.service shutdown bug has not been resolved | 14:22 |
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| sdague | krotscheck: so how is the middleware getting validated beyond unit tests? | 14:23 |
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| sdague | in general | 14:24 |
| garyk | dansmith: danpb: any chance you guys can please look at https://review.openstack.org/230425 - it is required to enable a new plugin (released in liberty to be supported by nova) | 14:24 |
| krotscheck | sdague: ^^ What I said above. I'm working on tests, but dev environments vary GREATLY between projects. Right now I'm struggling just to get trove up and running. | 14:24 |
| krotscheck | sdague: I've got confirmation that it's working for both ironic and glance, but those are manual tests done by UI devs that are building things on top of it. | 14:25 |
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| sdague | krotscheck: ok, so how do we turn whatever those manual tests are into something automated | 14:25 |
| krotscheck | sdague: If the end of this conversation is going to be "Hey can you write some tests", then why not just say that? | 14:25 |
| sdague | I guess I don't see what that manual test is / would be | 14:25 |
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| sdague | krotscheck: I thought that was were I started "what's the validation plan" | 14:26 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: That's a rather roundabout way of asking "Hey are you going to write tests?" | 14:27 |
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| sdague | krotscheck: hmmm... ok, I though that was extremely straight forward | 14:27 |
| krotscheck | sdague: I don't understand corporate doubletalk. It's a german thing, we prefer people being blunt. :) | 14:27 |
| sdague | ok, I never considered validation plan to be double talk, but so be it | 14:28 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: I suppose I could validate that the integrated approach used to encourage synergistic code quality standards is approved by committee. | 14:28 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: Or I could write some tests and let the core team approve them. | 14:28 |
| krotscheck | sdague: But, well, you'd have to -1 the review :) | 14:28 |
| krotscheck | sdague: And get in line, because someone else asked that question before you did. | 14:29 |
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| mhorban | sdague: Could you please point to oslo.service shutdown bug ? | 14:30 |
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| dims | mhorban: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.service/+bug/1446583 | 14:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1446583 in oslo.service "services no longer reliably stop in stable/liberty / master" [Critical,New] | 14:32 |
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| mhorban | sdague: dims: I see. We have ability to stop service gracefully(SIGTERM signal) and instantly (SIGINT). Graceful shutdown of course could wait forever. | 14:49 |
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| sdague | mhorban: graceful needs some eventual timeout, it did not seem to be getting there in a lot of cases | 14:54 |
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| mhorban | sdague: I think that graceful timeout can be very different...5 sec or 5 mins. If user or program is bored to wait he can send second signal SIGINT and interrupt execution instantly. | 14:59 |
| sdague | mhorban: that means that every system needs to build a timeout second kill mechanism | 15:00 |
| sdague | I consider that a bug | 15:00 |
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| sdague | a pretty big one, we're deciding not to honor the kill contract | 15:00 |
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| mhorban | sdague: I believe that it is often used practise. For example linux sockets has the same mechanism. socket.close and socket.shutdown. | 15:02 |
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| sdague | mhorban: I'm kind of done arguing this point. I filed the bug, consider oslo.service broken until it's fixed. Have no interest in oslo.service expanding scope until it is. | 15:04 |
| mhorban | mhorban: sdague: Apache and NginX have the same calls...like to wait forever to gracefully shutdown and instantaneous shutdown | 15:04 |
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| mhorban | sdague: Are you agree with something like config option GracefulShutdownTimeout? | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Enables py3 unit tests for libvirt.host module https://review.openstack.org/238134 | 15:19 |
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| PaulMurray | dansmith, ndipanov see above ^^^ thanks for your reviews - I have changed to shelved - let me know what you think | 16:36 |
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| sdague | melwitt: I updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234782/ with a longer commit message to explain context and land order | 18:03 |
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| diana_clarke | Are there any core devs around to review this? It needs a second +2 or to be put out of it's misery ;) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229964/ | 18:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add more 'actions' for server concepts doc https://review.openstack.org/236947 | 18:30 |
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| prometheanfire | does nova actually support https for glance? It doesn't seem to obey anything from the [glance] section https://gist.github.com/prometheanfire/17e37697981b060b9c74 | 18:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add more 'actions' for server concepts doc https://review.openstack.org/236947 | 18:32 |
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| prometheanfire | I also have logs of it going through the https reverse proxy instead of to where it's defined in the [glance] section | 18:33 |
| prometheanfire | so it seems to be using glance's endpoint data from keystone instead of what's defined in nova.conf | 18:34 |
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| mmmpork | sdague: i have the success case working on that review, but i wasn't sure what i should be testing | 18:46 |
| mmmpork | i put some comments in the ticket | 18:46 |
| mmmpork | also i did a hacky thing of setting a value on the fake http client's instance, and i'm not sure if that's the best way to do that | 18:46 |
| sdague | mmmpork: honestly, it could be as simple as a GET /..../flavors | 18:47 |
| mmmpork | ok so we don't actually care what it's returning for the version? | 18:47 |
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| mmmpork | we just want to make sure the request is successful? | 18:47 |
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| nikeshm | hi | 18:48 |
| sdague | let me think about this for a sec | 18:48 |
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| mmmpork | sdague: sure no hurry :) | 18:48 |
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| nikeshm | can i perform http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#os-admin-actions-v2.1 through novaclient? | 18:48 |
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| nikeshm | sorry got the answer | 18:50 |
| sdague | mmmpork: https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/3d3db050591b879256225061307ee0434f74c2e0/novaclient/tests/unit/v2/test_versions.py#L87 hmmmm I wonder if there already is a test for this | 18:50 |
| mmmpork | i can look, i just wasn't sure where to look | 18:51 |
| mmmpork | what i understood is get_endpoint is always returning the uuid | 18:51 |
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| mmmpork | and we need get_endpoint to not return the uuid in order to test this thing | 18:52 |
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| sdague | right, sorry, this is the test you added :) | 18:53 |
| mmmpork | the thing i don't like about my hack of using endpoint_type is, even though we're just mocking, it's changing the behavior of get_endpoint | 18:53 |
| sdague | yeh, I think that's ok | 18:53 |
| mmmpork | from what i could tell it is either some kind of number string or "publicURL" | 18:53 |
| mmmpork | so there wouldn't be a conflict | 18:53 |
| sdague | so, what are the other possible ways the universe could look | 18:53 |
| mmmpork | one of the things i tried doing originally was trying to just add an attribute to the fake client class | 18:54 |
| mmmpork | but my lack of python skillz were causing me issues there | 18:55 |
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| * mmmpork just realized there's an api-version attribute at that level | 18:55 | |
| mmmpork | i could probably just add a "use_bare_endpoint" flag at that level | 18:55 |
| sdague | so, I think this handles the major cases I was concerned on. I think the only other thing I'd do is test that client.get_endpoint() returns what you expected in that test | 18:56 |
| sdague | then there is testing the v2.0 endpoints if they get hit by this | 18:56 |
| mmmpork | i did try that, i made sure the regex was compatible with specifying v2.0, and i saw some failures | 18:57 |
| mmmpork | but i didn't dig into it, it could have just been me | 18:57 |
| mmmpork | oh wait, i did v2, not v2.0 | 18:57 |
| mmmpork | so that might be what broke it | 18:57 |
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| sdague | sorry, v2 is correct | 18:58 |
| mmmpork | yeah regex is compatible with v2, it definitely hit the condition | 18:58 |
| mmmpork | but there was a failure beyond that i didn't look into, again, could have been related to something i was doing ;) | 18:58 |
| sdague | but, realize https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/3d3db050591b879256225061307ee0434f74c2e0/novaclient/tests/unit/v2/fakes.py#L161-L169 only mocks the v2.1 response for versions | 18:59 |
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| sdague | v2 is a little different | 18:59 |
| mmmpork | ah right | 18:59 |
| mmmpork | we talked about doing the v2 support in a different patch | 18:59 |
| mmmpork | do we still want to do that, or do we want to add it to this one? | 18:59 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/81fbb34e2544b26ae72f7eee3841b4024d22896f/nova/api/openstack/compute/versions.py#L37-L56 | 19:00 |
| sdague | yeh, I'd do it separately | 19:00 |
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| scottda | ildikov: Hi. We've an etherpad for the Nova - Cinder cross project session at the Summit: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NovaCinderMitakaSession | 19:00 |
| mmmpork | ok, ah excellent | 19:00 |
| mmmpork | sdague: so for v2.x, we need to add a check that verifies that get_endpoint is returning the right url | 19:00 |
| garyk | any chance of getting a driver to core to please look at https://review.openstack.org/230425 | 19:00 |
| mmmpork | and then we're good? | 19:00 |
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| sdague | mmmpork: yeh, I think so | 19:00 |
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| scottda | ildikov: May I put you down to lead the multi-attach discussion? | 19:01 |
| mmmpork | should i explore adding a proper attribute instead of hijacking endpoint_type? | 19:01 |
| sdague | mmmpork: you could, I'm fine either way on that | 19:01 |
| mmmpork | i did a little bit but now that i've been away from it, i realize what i was probably doing wrong ;) | 19:01 |
| mmmpork | with the endpoint_type thing, i notice that the constructor for the fake http client is explicitely setting all of the attributes to generic names | 19:02 |
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| ildikov | scottda: Hi. Thanks for the pointer. | 19:02 |
| mmmpork | i would hate to change that pattern for just one attribute | 19:02 |
| sdague | also you probably want to do a git review -d on that change id to pick up the changes I made to the commit message | 19:02 |
| mmmpork | yeah that too :D | 19:02 |
| mmmpork | i saw that :D thanks | 19:02 |
| mmmpork | i couldn't remember what the git review flag was to update it haha | 19:02 |
| sdague | yeh, well, there is so much cleanup we could do here :) | 19:02 |
| sdague | but one thing at a time | 19:02 |
| mmmpork | that's a big concern for me regarding test coverage in general with the fakes | 19:02 |
| ildikov | scottda: I added my name to the etherpad | 19:03 |
| mmmpork | it's overriding any of the attributes so some things might be expecting different behavior and our mock isn't accomodating that | 19:03 |
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| mmmpork | so we might have some false positives | 19:03 |
| sdague | mmmpork: yeh, agreed. But lets start with convincing ourselves this code is right under the circumstances we expect | 19:03 |
| mmmpork | but yeah totally get it | 19:03 |
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| mmmpork | oh yeah i know.. it's just something i noticed and thought i'd mention | 19:03 |
| sdague | and then feel free to make any additional improvements | 19:03 |
| scottda | ildikov: Great, thanks. That's also mirrored on the Cinder etherpad for the Summit. I've added you: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-mitaka-summit-topics | 19:03 |
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| mmmpork | well that brings up larger questions of maintaining a mock interface and what the goal would be etc | 19:04 |
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| mmmpork | but yeah :) thanks | 19:04 |
| ildikov | scottda: ok, great, thanks | 19:04 |
| mmmpork | so i'll tweak this test, verify the endpoint return and see if i can use a new attribute :) | 19:04 |
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| mmmpork | once that's pushed i'll make a dependent patch for the v2 support | 19:05 |
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| ildikov | scottda: will these be linked to the sched page? although I guess it's easy to find from the etherpad wiki | 19:05 |
| ildikov | scottda: I was just wondering whether I would need to send a short follow up mail or it's not necessary | 19:06 |
| scottda | I can link to the schedule page, but I'm not sure how ATM. Do you know how to do that? | 19:06 |
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| sdague | mmmpork: sounds good | 19:07 |
| scottda | ildikov: I'll look into how to do that, but I need to run right now. I'll get back to you later. | 19:07 |
| ildikov | scottda: I don't know who has access to edit those, I guess PTLs | 19:07 |
| ildikov | scottda: sure, not that urgent and also thanks for checking | 19:07 |
| scottda | ildikov: OK, I'll ping Cinder PTL. Thanks | 19:07 |
| ildikov | scottda: cool, tnx | 19:08 |
| mmmpork | Vek: thanks for the feedback :) as a new python programmer i really appreciate your suggestions! | 19:08 |
| * mmmpork still thinks in Perl ;) | 19:09 | |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: make xvp proxy into vnc group https://review.openstack.org/235398 | 19:22 |
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| prometheanfire | is there a reason why nova only uses the volume endpoint and not the volumev2 one? | 19:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces longs with ints https://review.openstack.org/238239 | 20:25 |
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| prometheanfire | switch the glance endpoint reverse proxy back to plain http and updated the endpoint to plain http as well | 20:30 |
| prometheanfire | nova image-list works now | 20:31 |
| prometheanfire | it seems that when connecting to the registry nova only uses http? | 20:31 |
| prometheanfire | is that right? | 20:31 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: it doesn't sound right. If noone else has looked into it I'll check it out after the school run. | 20:51 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: sure, I'll be available for the next few hours | 20:53 |
| prometheanfire | just switched it back to https and it's failing again | 20:53 |
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| prometheanfire | don't even see nova attempt to contact glance but still get the http error | 20:53 |
| prometheanfire | kinda odd | 20:53 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: "don't see" in the glance API logs or don't see in the packet/strace sense? | 20:54 |
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| prometheanfire | don't see it in the tcpdump sense | 20:56 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: go get your kids and we can resume when you have time :P | 20:57 |
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| prometheanfire | I'll describe the setup then | 20:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: force_config_drive: StrOpt -> BoolOpt https://review.openstack.org/237762 | 21:12 |
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| vilobhmm11 | bauzas, melwitt : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222423/ if you can have a look it would be helpful | 21:21 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: here's a short summary https://gist.github.com/prometheanfire/308dbc7a9c1359641786 | 21:47 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: updated with how I'm doing ssl as well, (openstack services listening on localhost http, nginx reverse proxy https to localhost) | 21:50 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: Hmm okay, that's very strange .... | 22:38 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: not that I expect it makes huge difference but is this kilo, liberty or master? | 22:39 |
| prometheanfire | liberty | 22:40 |
| prometheanfire | upgraded to liberty, tested, set up ssl, now this | 22:40 |
| prometheanfire | think this is the last ssl related issue I've had | 22:40 |
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| prometheanfire | or the last remaining one | 22:40 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: what's annoying is that the debug output doesn't give me the request it makes to glance, only the response | 22:42 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: Well we can add that to the debug logs some where ;P | 22:43 |
| prometheanfire | ya, was trying to figure out where | 22:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes dict keys and items references for Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/232585 | 22:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces longs with ints https://review.openstack.org/238239 | 22:54 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: think I'm getting closer, it seems like image/glance.py is using data from cinder endpoints, all kinda of odd | 23:02 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: what? | 23:03 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: from cinder? | 23:03 |
| prometheanfire | the GlanceImageService class, detail function | 23:04 |
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| prometheanfire | I'm printing out the content of the 'context' variable, and it prints out cinder endpoint data | 23:04 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: can you also print params? | 23:10 |
| prometheanfire | ya, didn't have anything | 23:11 |
| prometheanfire | params = {'filters': {'is_public': 'none'}} | 23:11 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: okay. | 23:14 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: sanitized context https://gist.github.com/prometheanfire/c9434650aa0bee80a7dd | 23:19 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: okay that may be normal but doesn't gel with my world view. Can you apply somethign like: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477088/ | 23:24 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: I'm pretty sure that will confirm that we're getting http not https URLs | 23:24 |
| prometheanfire | sure, sec | 23:25 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: doesn't print anything | 23:26 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: okay that's helpful. | 23:28 |
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| prometheanfire | removed the cinder endpoints, just to see what would happen, same thing, just no endpoints in the catalog in the context | 23:29 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: Ah okay, can you set api_servers with the full URL in nova.conf | 23:30 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: check out get_api_servers() in image/glance.py | 23:31 |
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| prometheanfire | api_servers = https://master.openstack.example.com:9292 | 23:31 |
| prometheanfire | already set | 23:31 |
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| prometheanfire | along with host and protocol | 23:32 |
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| prometheanfire | ok, so it's more like it doesn't get the full catelog, I'd focus there | 23:36 |
| prometheanfire | added a debug to print the url in /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/glanceclient/v1/images.py line 63 and only got /v1/images/detail?is_public=none&limit=20 | 23:36 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: *sigh* okay. | 23:38 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah that's what I'd expect, the rest are attributes of the client | 23:39 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 23:39 |
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| prometheanfire | maybe this will solve why nova is trying to access volumes via the volumesv1 api as well | 23:40 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: getting kinda desperate now: can you try http://paste.openstack.org/raw/477089/ | 23:41 |
| prometheanfire | sure, sec | 23:42 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: ok, that had data | 23:46 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: should have been several calls, all basically the same. | 23:47 |
| prometheanfire | only one call | 23:47 |
| prometheanfire | data seems valid | 23:47 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: do we have the correct scheme in params? | 23:49 |
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| prometheanfire | here, let me print it | 23:50 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: https://gist.github.com/prometheanfire/48612b49820ca05e2d02 | 23:51 |
| prometheanfire | has a valid endpoint= | 23:51 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: yeah. So that's good. | 23:56 |
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