Tuesday, 2016-02-23

jdurgincool - that'll work since you're using hammer00:00
EmilienMthanks !00:00
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EmilienMjdurgin: if you want to review our ceph.conf: http://logs.openstack.org/24/281624/9/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-scenario001-tempest-dsvm-centos7/9e29774/logs/etc/ceph/ceph.conf.txt.gz00:01
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jdurginit's fine in general - and rbd_default_features will use the newer stuff by default in jewel00:03
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EmilienMjdurgin: so even with rbd_default_features it's failing http://logs.openstack.org/24/281624/11/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-scenario001-tempest-dsvm-trusty/42685cc/logs/etc/ceph/ceph.conf.txt.gz00:47
EmilienMI'm going to try the build_interval param in tempest now00:47
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: Xen: Calculate block_migration if it's None  https://review.openstack.org/25410101:04
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt: Calculate block_migration if it's None  https://review.openstack.org/27558501:04
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eliqiao_hi dansmith, can I ask a question about rpc version? If I want to make a parameter of a rpc method to support None value (before it supported True/False, and I added None supported in virt layer), do I need to bump the compute rpc api version?01:05
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dansmitheliqiao_: yeah01:17
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openstackgerrithuan proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI:Resolve Nova/Neutron race condition  https://review.openstack.org/24112701:21
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eliqiao_dansmith: pardon? you meant I need to bump version?01:26
dansmitheliqiao_: yes, you need to bump the version01:26
dansmitheliqiao_: and make sure you never send None if the version pin is <= that number01:27
dansmither, < that number01:27
eliqiao_dansmith: what I am thinking about it, I don't touch any code changes of comput layer and all changes are happend in virt layer. Besides, I won't send None until next release (N).01:27
dansmitheliqiao_: you can't drop compat until we bump the major version to 501:28
eliqiao_dansmith: hmm.. the major version of 5 will be bump while in N release?01:30
dansmitheliqiao_: the major version bump will be when it is.. if we need to do that in M or N or O, then we'll do it :)01:30
dansmithI'm just saying, being in N doesn't magically make it okay :)01:30
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eliqiao_hi dansmith thanks for you answer, can you help to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254102/ (ignor chaning return value stull, I will drop that change). If we need to bump version as you said, then the patch only do bump api version stuff, do we really need it? P.S I won't send None until next release(N)01:34
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zhangyufeiCould someone help review this?https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282987/01:37
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/nova: Implement setup_networks_on_host for Neutron to support Migration  https://review.openstack.org/27507301:53
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/nova: Implement setup_networks_on_host for Neutron to support Migration  https://review.openstack.org/27507301:59
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openstackgerritlyanchih proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: serial console ports count upper limit needs to be checked  https://review.openstack.org/20737302:20
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EmilienMjdurgin: so increasing compute/build_interval in tempest.conf helped to have the test passing.02:33
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: add regression test for bug #1538011  https://review.openstack.org/28336403:20
openstackbug 1538011 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Aggregate metadata keys are not case sensitive" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1538011 - Assigned to Augustina Ragwitz (auggy)03:20
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openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova: Add new APIs and deprecate old API for migrations  https://review.openstack.org/25877103:34
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: Add soft power off support to ironic driver.  https://review.openstack.org/24858505:15
openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: Translate power state strings with dict for nodes.set_power_state().  https://review.openstack.org/24858405:15
openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: Add soft reboot support to ironic driver.  https://review.openstack.org/24858605:15
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Generate better validation error message when using name regexes  https://review.openstack.org/28114305:36
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Generate better validation error message when using name regexes  https://review.openstack.org/28114305:41
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: Add inject NMI support to ironic driver.  https://review.openstack.org/28341106:48
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: Add inject NMI support to ironic driver.  https://review.openstack.org/28341107:13
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openstackgerritbaikai proposed openstack/nova: Sync up instance object with nova db before unshelve operation done.  https://review.openstack.org/28341807:15
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova-specs: Modify live_migration API response content  https://review.openstack.org/28342107:24
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bauzasgood morning nova07:50
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Pass BDM in swap_volume method of LibvirtDriver  https://review.openstack.org/25713507:55
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add some validations for BDM  https://review.openstack.org/25878807:56
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Fix an unnecessary interpolation  https://review.openstack.org/27818607:57
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Yingxinbauzas: good morning07:59
Yingxinbauzas: if you have time, please see the quick intro of bug 1523506: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1523506/comments/208:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1523506 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "hosts within two availability zones" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Yingxin (cyx1231st)08:00
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bauzasYingxin: looking08:07
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bauzasYingxin: so, the other comments from Sean and Hans are correct, it's a default behaviour08:09
Yingxinbauzas: thanks, I'll remove that08:10
bauzasYingxin: but I can take a few mins to explain08:10
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bauzasjust triaging the bug and giving a short explanation, I'll explain to you further afterwards08:11
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Yingxinbauzas: "As I see things "bar" does not belong to an AZ at all, only aggregates that explicitly define the AZ attribute "belongs" to an AZ "08:11
Yingxinbauzas: so it is true08:11
Yingxinbauzas: thanks08:12
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Yingxinbauzas: Another issue: The way scheduler consumes disk resources in host state seems inconsistent with RT's way in compute.08:14
bauzassec, explaining your first bug08:15
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bauzasYingxin: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L3719-L374408:20
bauzasYingxin: here is the logic where we verify if it's okay to update or not08:20
Yingxinbauzas: ack08:21
bauzasYingxin: we basically don't care of the default AZ, it's just for a convenient way to see your hosts using the AZ REST resource08:21
bauzasAZs are used for allowing a explicit way for users to have affinity08:21
bauzaslike aggregates, except that's explicit instead of implicit08:22
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bauzas(I prefer to use the word "affinity" and not "failure domains" because the controlplane is the same between AZs and not resilient to failures unless the operator deployed it differently from the norrmal case)08:23
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Yingxinbauzas: so if operator doesn't assign the AZ to aggregates, there will be no errors in my case.08:25
bauzasYingxin: yup08:25
Yingxinbauzas: ok, thanks08:25
bauzasYingxin: if you want to segment your cloud, create 2 aggregates and use 2 distinct AZs08:26
Yingxinbauzas: ack08:26
bauzasYingxin: but TBH, AZs are only useful if the user specifies an AZ in his boot request, right;,08:26
bauzasYingxin: so, that's why you don't failback into a "default" AZ08:27
bauzasunless you specified a specific conf opt which is "default_schedule_zone" (defaulted to None)08:27
Yingxinbauzas: that's true08:28
bauzasin that case, you'll invert the paradigm where all request will automatically be bound within a specific AZ08:28
bauzasunless the user explicitely specifies another one08:28
bauzasbut if the user specifies another AZ, it will stick that instance forever within that AZ08:28
bauzasso, back to your 2nd question08:29
Yingxinbauzas: so complicated, I only know the general idea before :)08:30
Yingxinbauzas: yup08:30
Yingxinbauzas: The scheduler consumes "free_disk_mb" in its host state.08:30
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bauzasYingxin: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/aggregates.html#availability-zones-azs08:30
YingxinIt comes from the min value of "free_disk_gb" and "disk_available_least" in ComputeNode object.08:31
YingxinThats L189-L20008:31
YingxinBut compute node changes "local_gb_used" instead in consuming resources from a request.08:31
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Yingxinbauzas: Is that mismatch a design or a bug?08:32
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bauzasYingxin: that's highly error-prone, hence jay's BPs to have a convenient object for consuming resources in both places08:33
Yingxinbauzas: I'm cared about that because I wrote the logic to synchronize the states between scheduler and resource tracker.08:35
bauzasYingxin: TBH, here is where the scheduler actually checks the space https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/disk_filter.py08:36
Yingxinbauzas: Yes I saw that08:36
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bauzasYingxin: what we care with consume_from_request() is that we decrement the resource usage for the selected instance, to make sure a second instance wouldn't take in account a wrong size08:37
bauzasYingxin: but given we fetch this HostState everytime a new request comes in, it's possibly wrong and we could have missed that08:37
bauzasYingxin: you should check and see08:38
Yingxinso the scheduler disk resource consumption should follow the disk filter, I know that08:38
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Yingxinbauzas: it needs a deeper understand of underlying virt driver: how do they report disk resources from hardware08:40
bauzasnot really08:41
bauzasyou only care of the metrics, not the meanings of those metrivds08:41
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Yingxinbauzas: so only one choice is right in compute node: consume 'free_disk_gb/disk_available_least' or increase 'local_gb_used'08:44
bauzaslike I said, you should test and see08:45
bauzasbut yeah08:45
Yingxinbauzas: thanks08:46
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Use assertIsNone, assertFalse instead of assertEqual  https://review.openstack.org/28345408:59
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Allow block_migration and disk_over_commit to be None  https://review.openstack.org/25410209:04
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: Improve os-migrateLive input parameters  https://review.openstack.org/25931909:04
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Generate better validation error message when using name regexes  https://review.openstack.org/28114309:14
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Generate better validation error message when using name regexes  https://review.openstack.org/28114309:16
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kaisersHi Nova! Anybody else having issues with tox env / pip version? (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1548712)09:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1548712 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "pip: no such option: -c in current Nova master testing setup" [Undecided,New]09:39
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johnthetubaguykaisers: have you upgraded pip recently? I can't remember which version added -c for the constraints09:51
kaisersjohnthetubaguy: just looked it up: 7.0.309:52
kaisersjohnthetubaguy: sec09:53
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kaisersjohnthetubaguy: current package is 7.1.0 on CentOS :-(09:54
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kaisersjohnthetubaguy: meh, i wrote nonesense, 7.1 should support constraints, my 7.0.3 comment was wrong09:56
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kaisersjohnthetubaguy: 7.0.3 is the version that the fresh checkout & setup came up with in the py34 environment.09:56
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openstackgerritWaldemar Znoinski proposed openstack/nova: Fix API Guide doc  https://review.openstack.org/28029909:58
johnthetubaguykaisers: have you tried upgrading pip using easy_install?09:58
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kaisersjohnthetubaguy: comes up with 8.x version, hmm, i can try to get 7.1 explicitely. sec09:59
johnthetubaguy8.x should be just fine09:59
johnthetubaguyor do you seem similar issues09:59
johnthetubaguyactually, maybe there is a bug with that one...09:59
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kaisersthe env continues to use 7.0.3, hmm.10:01
kaisersafk for 3mins10:01
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johnthetubaguykaisers: you may have to re-create your .tox to pick up the new installs10:04
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johnthetubaguykaisers: also, I suspect its one upgrade for pip and one for pip310:04
johnthetubaguybut I haven't tried that10:04
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kaisersjohnthetubaguy: yep, removed .tox and even started with a completely clean tree. currently testing manually upgrading this. but i think with a fresh clone the env should be created correctly.10:12
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kaisersjohnthetubaguy: Hmm, i'm probably doing something stupid. i can update pip/pip3 to 7.1 in nova/.tox/py34/bin/ and call it but by running tox it seems to be downgraded to 7.0.3 immediately, again.10:20
kaisersAn idea where exactly the pip version is defined in for tox?10:21
johnthetubaguykaisers: thats a new one on me10:21
johnthetubaguykaisers: what version of tox are you running?10:21
kaisersjohnthetubaguy: console log example at http://paste.openstack.org/show/487866/10:22
kaiserschecking tox, sec10:22
johnthetubaguykaisers: so also, if you activate the venv, and upgrade pip in there, does that help?10:22
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Adjust resource-providers models for resource-pools  https://review.openstack.org/28183710:24
johnthetubaguyhome/kaisers/tmp/nova-test/.tox/py34/bin/pip --version is the important bit, I think10:24
bauzaskaisers: pip install pip ?10:24
bauzasin the venv10:24
johnthetubaguyyeah, certainly try that in the venv, it should fix things10:24
bauzasbut I have pip-7.1.0 and it works like a charm10:25
johnthetubaguyI wonder if its something to do with tox pulling the system version, and the other install being local to your user, but its a total guess10:25
bauzasIIRC, virtualenv stores a pip version10:25
ernoHello, can you simulate nova functionality in tests? For example creating an instance, renaming it, assert it that it has been renamed10:25
bauzaskaisers: so probably your virtualenv version is old10:25
bauzassec, checking10:25
kaisersbauzas: yep, i'm updating the version in virtualenv10:26
kaisersbauzas: hmm, checking that10:26
johnthetubaguyerno: what are you expecting the rename to do? it just updates the database, not the VM's hostname10:26
bauzasdon't do that, upgrade virtualenv rather10:26
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ernowe have tests, that need to create instances. We create it by using the novaclient, but it is slow10:27
johnthetubaguyerno: we have functional tests in tree that are in between those things, we use tempest of the API tests, not quite sure what you are looking for10:27
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kaisersbauzas: virtual_env version is 13.0.3, which version would be expected to work?10:28
openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova-specs: Introduce inject NMI interface in nova ironic driver.  https://review.openstack.org/22932210:28
ernothanks, i will check it out10:28
kaisershmm, upgraded to virtualenv 14.0.6, testing again, now10:29
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kaisersbauzas: johnthetubaguy: looks better now10:30
johnthetubaguyerno: thinking about it, the database functional tests are probably enough for that10:30
johnthetubaguykaisers: ah, bauzas was right then, it was the venv upgrade thats the issue10:30
johnthetubaguykaisers: are you OK to put all that on the bug, then close the bug out?10:30
ernowhere can i find these tests?10:30
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yeah, virtualenv bundles 2 wheels, one for setuptools and one for pip AFAIR10:31
kaisersjohnthetubaguy: absolutely10:31
kaisersjohnthetubaguy: bauzas: Thanks a lot!10:31
johnthetubaguyerno: https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/nova/tests/functional/db10:31
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claudiubjohnthetubaguy: hello. This patch isn't really a blueprint. Can I get the -2 removed? :D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262007/10:38
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add some validations for BDM  https://review.openstack.org/25878810:38
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johnthetubaguyclaudiub: yeah, I see deleted code, so that makes me happy10:40
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johnthetubaguysfinucan: I just +w-ed a bunch of those config patches over here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258912 let me know if we need to push them back into the gate at somepoint10:41
johnthetubaguysfinucan: FWIW there was lots of love from the operators meetup on us making time for this work10:41
claudiubjohnthetubaguy: thanks! :D10:42
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sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Good stuff. I'll try to bang out a few more of those this week, in that case10:52
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openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Use OSError whenever it is possible  https://review.openstack.org/28350610:53
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Talking of operators, did you spot my question RE: a hypervisor support matrix for flavor extra keys yesterday10:53
sfinucanNot sure if this is something I can just "do", or if it needs a bp10:53
johnthetubaguysfinucan: did you get the note from mikal, basically lets just focus on updating the config descriptions, at least till we hit soft string freeze, at mitaka-3 basically10:53
johnthetubaguysfinucan: oh, I didn't see that10:53
johnthetubaguyon ML?10:53
johnthetubaguysfinucan: what was the title of your question?10:55
mdboothIs there anything in a config drive which would require it to be rebuilt during resize or migrate?10:55
johnthetubaguyor subject of your email, rather10:55
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* mdbooth doesn't think so, but would like to confirm10:55
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sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Yeah, but I wasn't too sure about it. Does it mean we should update the config options in their current locations, rather than the move+update that we were doing?10:56
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johnthetubaguymdbooth: I have a feeling its rebuilt mostly because we just land on a new machine, and it stops us moving it10:56
johnthetubaguymdbooth: now you would get new content in there, as its a fresh update of things like server metadata10:56
sfinucanThat's fine if so: just different to the line markus_z had been reinforcing :)10:56
mdboothjohnthetubaguy: Is that considered a feature?10:57
johnthetubaguyyeah, and different my what I thought last week10:57
mdboothThis is resize/cold migrate, not live migrate, btw10:57
mdboothSo I don't think the read-only iso thing is an issue here10:57
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Also I sent that question here on IRC, but in hindsight ML would have been a better option. I'll repost there now10:57
johnthetubaguymdbooth: probably not, although it would be bad if its different between different drivers10:57
johnthetubaguysfinucan: its OK, I can answer in here10:57
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mdboothjohnthetubaguy: Ok, thanks.10:58
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Ah, OK. Well the question was: Does anyone know if there's a matrix of supported extra_spec keys, other than this one docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/compute-flavors.html10:59
sfinucanIf not, I was thinking of adding something like the support matrix for these options http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html10:59
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sfinucanIt would be better if we could autogenerate this stuff, but I don't think we can yet so that would be a TODO11:00
johnthetubaguysfinucan: so I actually have a slightly different preferred approach, long term11:00
openstackgerritWaldemar Znoinski proposed openstack/nova: Fix API Guide doc  https://review.openstack.org/28029911:00
johnthetubaguysfinucan: I want us to move towards something like image meta11:00
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sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: I was thinking as much :)11:01
johnthetubaguysfinucan: I think putting up the docs for the hypervisor support matrix might be a good idea though, if you can group them somehow, like you say we could generate that later on11:01
sfinucanBut I couldn't find any BPs for such a thing when I went rooting for it yesterday11:01
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johnthetubaguyyeah, not created one yet11:01
sfinucanHmm, potential BP in that case11:02
johnthetubaguysfinucan: would be awesome to get that done if you fancy taking a look at that object work :)11:02
ernojohnthetubaguy: i am more interested in a quick simulation for creating an instance using nova without using any space or resources, and sending the create events to the messaging server11:02
johnthetubaguysfinucan: yeah, it can be a specless BP, its just copying what we did for image meta, rally11:02
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sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Who doesn't love object work11:03
johnthetubaguyerno: we have a fake virt driver, that might help you?11:03
johnthetubaguysfinucan: heh11:03
ernojohnthetubaguy: that sounds good11:03
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sfinucanRight, start small with the matrix then potentially expand with a BP11:03
ernojohnthetubaguy: can you give me some documentation?11:03
johnthetubaguyerno: not sure we have any, just change the virt driver type to the fake virt one, everything else should be just the same11:04
ernojohnthetubaguy: where can i change it?11:04
johnthetubaguyerno: search for fake.FakeDriver in here: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/sample_config.html11:05
ernojohnthetubaguy: thanks11:05
johnthetubaguysfinucan: going back a question, I think just modifying the docs of existing config options in place wouldn't be a terrible idea, its just we need to stop those by the end of the week anyway, as we hit string freeze, probably best to seek out some high priority bugs that need fixing11:06
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Ah. Then I'll do what I planned and avoid more config option work? :)11:07
sfinucanbesides fixing rebase hell issues, of course11:08
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johnthetubaguysfinucan: yeah, I think thats probably the best approach, I guess the stuff we have up already could get rebased on master and moved back to its original location, and try get that in, but starting new stuff at this point seems like a bad plan11:10
ernojohnthetubaguy: if i have more compute nodes, and i want to utilize the one with fakedriver for tests, how can i reach it?11:10
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Sound like a PoA so. Will do11:11
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johnthetubaguyerno: there are scheduler hints to target a specific node, in the usual way, but I would recommend you just do a devstack setup, or similar, to create an isolated test environment, depends on your use case I guess11:13
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Use assertIsNone instead of assertEqual(None, ***)  https://review.openstack.org/28345411:16
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, is feature freeze 25th or 29th?11:17
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, and is it the same for python-novaclient?11:18
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Allow block_migration and disk_over_commit to be None  https://review.openstack.org/25410211:19
johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: so it happens when we tag the release, most likely on 2nd march, see: http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html11:19
johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: it tends to be anything that has a +W at that point that is allowed into mitaka, almost zero exceptions allowed at that point11:20
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johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: python-novaclient is likely to have a release during that same release, which will be the final release for mitaka, given the current plans11:20
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PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, thanks - we have a few patches that need to go in python-novaclient and one for nova - then all our expected features are complete11:21
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PaulMurray(for live migration)11:21
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, I'll push to get them done by the end of the week11:21
johnthetubaguydo we have all the patches with +1s from the subteam now?11:22
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PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, most are well reviewed11:24
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PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, a couple have had +2 already11:24
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, there is one novaclient patch missing11:24
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andrearosaPaulMurray: I have the novaclient patch ready, not pushed up yet as there are some other patches which need to go first and few of them need a rebase. I am quite confident that those patches are going to land soon then I'll put up my patch with a cleaner dependency chain.11:35
spellerThe document says that if I don't supply a network when creating the server "the API provisions the server instance with all isolated networks for the tenant". But when I don't supply a network I get a message from nova "Multiple possible networks found, use a Network ID to be more specific."11:37
spellerSo which one is it?11:37
speller*The documentation11:38
johnthetubaguyspeller: the first bit is wrong, it only provisions one network, by default, from what I remember11:38
spellerjohnthetubaguy: Got it, so the documentation needs to be change I guess. Thanks!11:39
johnthetubaguyspeller: which bit of docs are you reading, so we can get that fixed?11:39
PaulMurrayalex_xu, are you around?11:39
spellerjohnthetubaguy: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#createServer11:39
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: virt: reserved hugepages on compute host  https://review.openstack.org/27742211:39
johnthetubaguyspeller: we are about to have the API meeting, so I can raise that in there11:39
spellerjohnthetubaguy: Great! Planning to be there11:40
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johnthetubaguyspeller: cools, the actually answer is horribly completed, we are talking on the ML about changing the API so its more explicit11:40
johnthetubaguy(in a new microversion)11:41
eliqiao_hi johnthetubaguy do you have time to discuss about bp/making-live-migration-api-friendly, I am quite confused about it now.11:41
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eliqiao_johnthetubaguy: I meant can you check my last reply on https://review.openstack.org/25410211:41
johnthetubaguyeliqiao_: honestly, I am very confused about it right now too, PaulMurray do you know more details about where the current discussion is landing with that?11:41
johnthetubaguyeliqiao_: gerrit sends me so many emails, I just don't see these important questions11:42
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, eliqiao_ the last I knew yo uproposed splitting it into two to avoid upgrade issues11:42
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PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, eliqiao_ I need to reload my context for more detail...11:42
spellerjohnthetubaguy: I'm interested in the complicated answer. Care to refer to a ML thread?11:43
johnthetubaguyspeller: possibly, not totally sure that has all the answers either, but it should clear up the current direction11:43
johnthetubaguyeliqiao_: so we already return the request-id, that *should* be enough, but I suspect that isn't enough right now11:44
johnthetubaguyI honestly don't really like the migration-id being separate, but thats a fight I have probably lost, we should probably ask questions in the API meeting thats in a few moments11:45
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eliqiao_alex_xu: can we add it into API meeting ?11:45
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spellerjohnthetubaguy: Do you know what is the ML thread?11:46
eliqiao_another question is for the compute api version bump, I have no idea how to achive that.11:46
eliqiao_johnthetubaguy: ^^11:47
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johnthetubaguyspeller: its this one, but the answer is quite a long way into the thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/086437.html11:48
johnthetubaguyeliqiao_: you mean the REST API?11:48
spellerjohnthetubaguy: Thanks!11:48
johnthetubaguyeliqiao_: ah, so reading your patch, you need to consider upgrade, and still keep this working11:49
PaulMurrayeliqiao_, andrearosa has a patch that does that - you could follow what he has done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265898/11:50
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PaulMurrayeliqiao_, (if you only need to know how to bump...)11:50
eliqiao_PaulMurray: I meant compute rpc api version bump.11:51
PaulMurrayeliqiao_, sorry11:51
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alex_xuPaulMurray: yes, i'm here11:51
alex_xueliqiao_: sure, free to add agenda to the api meeting11:51
eliqiao_PaulMurray: johnthetubaguy I meant do we need to bump and how can I bump for check_can_live_migrate_source since dansmith have already add compible for 4.811:52
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PaulMurrayhi alex_xu - I wondered if you could review this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279647 - before something conflicts with it?11:52
eliqiao_you can see in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254102, I only add version bump but nothing in it... I am totally not sure if we really need this.11:52
PaulMurrayalex_xu, it has a +2 already11:53
alex_xuPaulMurray: I will try to review after api meeting11:53
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/os-vif: Remove vlan from hostdev and direct vif  https://review.openstack.org/28352811:54
PaulMurrayalex_xu, thanks - also, I saw your comment on ML about updating docs with these new LM features11:54
PaulMurrayalex_xu, the docs don't get frozen at the same time as the code do they?11:54
alex_xuPaulMurray: np, yea, hope we can keep the doc up-to-date11:55
eliqiao_hi johnthetubaguy I saw you replied on my patch for exception raising, but that would be reverted back to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254102/25/nova/compute/rpcapi.py11:55
johnthetubaguywe actively encourage doc updates during feature freeze, its partly why its there11:55
alex_xuPaulMurray: I guess the freeze won't effect the docs11:55
alex_xu++ johnthetubaguy11:56
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, that makes sense, so my plan is to go over the docs once we get into feature freeze then11:56
johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: I don't see much review from the subteam in these patches from eliqiao_, it would be great if we can have more eyes on this stuff, if its left to cores, this will not make mitaka11:56
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, eliqiao_ I think everyone got a bit lost on the direction of those patches and just stepped back waiting to see what happened11:57
PaulMurrayeliqiao_, could you report on what we are doing there in the LM meeting this afternoon please11:57
johnthetubaguyright, that direction needs to be agreed11:57
alex_xulet's discuss it in the api meeting or lm meeting11:58
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alex_xueliqiao_: better to give a update for those patches11:58
eliqiao_PaulMurray: sure, I will do that, but I think I am still little confused by johnthetubaguy's comments on upgrade.11:59
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johnthetubaguywe need to have live-migrate work when we have a mix of both old and new compute nodes11:59
eliqiao_johnthetubaguy: for old compute node which doesn't support new parameter, do we need to raise exception ?11:59
johnthetubaguythat means the new code *must* work with compute nodes running liberty11:59
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PaulMurrayeliqiao_, I think it means new nodes must be able to work old way as well12:00
johnthetubaguyeliqiao_: so the API must raise an exception, until all compute nodes have been upgrade, but only when a user requests the new microversion12:00
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eliqiao_johnthetubaguy: PaulMurray thanks, I think I need to think about them before LM meeting..12:01
johnthetubaguyeliqiao_: we have some helper functions for that: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/service.py#L33312:02
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openstackgerritAndrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Abort an ongoing live migration  https://review.openstack.org/27797112:09
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openstackgerritAndrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Abort an ongoing live migration  https://review.openstack.org/27797112:14
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openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Fix typo  https://review.openstack.org/28355012:45
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openstackgerritMarco Pavone proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: prevent serial console port exhaustion  https://review.openstack.org/27580012:52
openstackgerritMarco Pavone proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Acquire TCP ports for console during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/27580112:52
openstackgerritMarco Pavone proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add serial ports to the migration data object  https://review.openstack.org/21510212:52
openstackgerritMarco Pavone proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move "_get_serial_ports_from_guest" to Guest class  https://review.openstack.org/23605112:52
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openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Style improvements  https://review.openstack.org/28355712:58
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alex_xusdague: eliqiao_ just give me interesting point, what happened if there is host called 'auto'....13:05
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sdaguealex_xu: yep, it's a concern, but we need some reserve words13:06
sdagueso I don't know13:06
alex_xusdague: ok...13:07
sdaguebut being explicit is kind of important I think13:07
eliqiao_sdague: ah... and 'Auto' 'AUTO' are all reserved ?13:07
sdagueright, all good points13:08
sdaguethat needs to be in the write up13:08
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eliqiao_sdague: okay, get you, thanks, things get intesting... do you prefer etherpad or ML?13:09
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openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Style improvements  https://review.openstack.org/28355713:12
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cdentjohnthetubaguy, dansmith, bauzas, jaypipes: I think the pending comments on this have been addressed, can we put this one to bed to move on to the next? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277466/13:21
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bauzascdent: in my review queue13:22
cdentthanks bauzas13:22
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jaypipescdent: must get some food. will do after that.13:24
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Generate better validation error message when using name regexes  https://review.openstack.org/28114313:24
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cdentjaypipes: I _guess_ that's fair.13:24
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ankit_agjaypipes: hi13:31
ankit_agcould you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221162/13:31
ankit_agIt already got one +2 and requires another one to get it merged13:31
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openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Improve test case  https://review.openstack.org/28357513:36
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PaulMurrayLive migration meeting on #openstack-meeting-3 in a few minutes: PaulMurray paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski jlanoux yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap kmartin claudiub tobasco13:59
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kashyapPaulMurray: Thanks.14:10
kashyapStrangely irssi doesn't seem to prompt me when I'm explicitly pinged along with other people on a public channel.14:10
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kashyap(This time I Just happened to look here)14:10
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Bobbawhat are your highlight settings for it kashyap?  I had to add my nick as a specific hilight with a regexp...14:11
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Bobbaand presumable highlight_nick_matches is set to ON?14:12
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kashyapBobba: No, I don't have that config14:13
Bobbasorry - I meant hilight_nick_matches14:13
Bobbadarned american spelling :D14:13
Bobbajust type /set hilight - nick_matches should be ON and level should include PUBLIC14:14
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kashyapBobba: I'm currently using this https://github.com/stickster/irssi-libnotify/blob/master/notify-listener.py14:14
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Bobbaoh :) I don't know about that.14:15
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openstackgerritYingxin Cheng proposed openstack/nova: WIP: scheduler functional test framework preview  https://review.openstack.org/28182514:23
bauzasmmm, interesting, we only reschedule on resize/cold-migrate and on create14:23
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alaskijohnthetubaguy: dansmith do one of y'all want to hit this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27909114:30
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dansmithalaski: critical patch +Wd14:31
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bauzasalaski: dansmith: so I refrained myself to +W something14:32
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bauzasalaski: dansmith:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282520/5 (sorry took time to figure out the change)14:33
bauzasalaski: dansmith: if you look at my comment, you'll see that I'm thinking of a scheduler call just saving all the aggregates14:34
bauzasalaski: dansmith: so I'm okay with merging it, but I wonder if we should provide some documentation saying that running the scheduler when upgrading it could be a bit longer because of that14:35
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bauzas(for the first time I mean)14:35
alaskiit's a fair concern, do you think there are really deployments out there with a large number of aggregates?14:35
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bauzaswell, given it's possible to have a lot of aggregates, I dunno14:36
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dansmithbauzas: ndipanov added a thing to let us call all the migrations in small batches,14:36
dansmithso I was just going to do that14:36
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bauzasdansmith: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282520/5//COMMIT_MSG@1214:37
bauzasdansmith: we don't need a batch for that14:37
bauzasgerrit <314:37
alaskidansmith: a scheduler restart will trigger it for every aggregate14:37
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dansmithoh you're saying it will14:39
dansmithreally? why does the scheduler do that?14:39
bauzasdansmith: because we are providing all the aggregates in the hostmanager14:40
bauzasin case a filter wants to check those14:40
bauzasand no longer calling the DB within a filter14:40
bauzasit's a Kilo merge AFAIR14:40
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dansmithright, but why does it *save* them14:41
bauzas(and we have a RPC API for updating the caches)14:41
dansmithis it because it updates the list of hosts?14:41
bauzasdansmith: because it's calling AggregateList.get_all()14:41
bauzaswhich itself calls _from_db_object() :)14:41
dansmithoh, right, right, I do the save like I did for compute node... GOT IT14:41
alaskidansmith: it doesn't save the agg, the _from_db_object does14:41
dansmithwe need to suspend this conversation until I have coffee14:42
bauzasheh, no pb14:42
dansmithso I don't further embarrass myself about my own code :D14:42
* bauzas is just having his 5th coffee now14:42
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alaskiI'm amazed you've made it this far without coffee since you've probably been up for hours by now14:43
dansmithheh, no14:43
bauzasdansmith: in case you want a good coffee machine :D https://www.tassimo.ca/en/14:43
bauzas^ that one is my office coffee machine14:43
dansmithheh, I use a pod system too, but probably not as fancy14:44
dansmithon the weekends when I have more time, I use a french press14:44
dansmithor what you would call "a press"14:44
bauzasI do have a nespress for home relationships14:45
dansmithhome relationships?14:45
bauzasbut the tassimo is for work, definitely14:45
bauzasyeah, I'm socializing at home14:45
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dansmithheh, okay14:45
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johnthetubaguysdague: just looking at the list migration stuff, we seem to be exposing the auto incrementing database id, rather than a uuid, is that totally intentional? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25877114:53
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: alaski: (not exclusively) so I saw that cold migrate/resize allow reschedule, since I'm currently working on passing the Spec object to the conductor, I'd have to also amend the compute RPC API for prep_resize() to pass a Spec obj14:54
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: alaski: but that would dramatically increase the change size14:55
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: alaski: do you feel it's good playing with conditionals in the conductor like if it's an old dict or a new fancy object, then do that or this14:55
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bauzasuntil we finish that looong story to stop hydrating dicts over the wire14:56
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johnthetubaguybauzas: I am not sure I see the full problem, I guess the spec_obj needs to get passed down to the compute, if its allowed to re-schedule, if its missing the object from the conductor, it can just fall back to the old behaviour, I guess?14:57
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: that's always been the migration id I think14:57
sdagueit's never had a uuid14:57
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: sure, the ideal thing is to pass the object down to the conductor, but it requires some kind of hairy change14:57
sdaguesecurity groups and ips have the same issue14:57
bauzaspass down to the /compute/14:58
bauzasI should need a 6th coffee14:58
alaskibauzas: it may be a necessary evil for now. I had to do a similar thing with build_and_run and filter_properties14:58
alaskipassing it through just to come back to the conductor14:59
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bauzasyeah I remember the story14:59
jaypipescdent: working on reviews now.14:59
jaypipescdent: belly full, fuly caffeinated.14:59
cdentjaypipes: solid14:59
jaypipescdent: yeah, haven't had one of those yet.15:00
bauzasalaski: but here, it's not a new method, it's just our signature changing15:00
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bauzasalaski: which means some compat failback and so on15:00
bauzasso, see I'm tempted to patch prep_resize but the change will be huge15:00
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bauzasI could just make a trade-off and do the hydratation/dehydratation in the conductor code15:01
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bauzasanyway, patching, will see15:01
johnthetubaguysdague: OK, I guess that could get fixed later15:01
alaskibauzas: let's just look it up in the conductor then. it should only be needed for a reschedule which ideally is uncommon15:01
mdboothPaulMurray: It is a fix, yes. A vital, but not terribly important fix. The 15 patches which follow it are slightly more interesting ;)15:01
sdagueor, never really, it's not a top level resource15:02
sdagueI think an int id is probably fine15:02
bauzasalaski: tbh, given all of that, I'll sort that up and propose something, I'll be up all ears when I upload it15:02
PaulMurraymdbooth, I have to go to a physical meeting15:02
mdboothPaulMurray: enjoy15:02
bauzasthat's nice to have for Mitaka, but could be newton-ish given all the prios15:03
alaskibauzas: sounds good15:03
paul-carltonmdbooth, I think it is ok to proceed with work, I'm trying to get to review stuff but have an internal issue to address too15:04
alaskisdague: uuid vs autoincrement id becomes a bigger deal with cells. If the migrations live within cells you could get id conflicts without a uuid15:04
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sdaguealaski: they are scoped to an instance though15:05
sdagueis that still an issue?15:05
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paul-carltonIf we can get a series of patches ready and +1'ed then the can all get +2'd early in Newton15:05
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/28213615:05
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johnthetubaguysdague: yeah, that was my thinking its per instance, at least in this API, so we get away with it, I think...15:06
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johnthetubaguysdague: I was just checking out this: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/representation_structure.html#singular-resources vs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258771/23/doc/api_samples/server-migrations/v2.23/migrations-get.json, I thought we would wrap the content there with {"migration": {}} so it matches servers15:06
alaskisdague: it looks like the lookup is done by a join with instance, so it's not an issue for that. it just becomes an oddity that it may appear that two instances share a migration id15:06
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sdaguealaski: only if there is a way to fetch the migration without an instance15:07
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alaskiI just wanted to mention that ids are no longer unique in a cells world15:08
sdaguewhich is not intended15:08
sdagueif this was a top level resource id, I'd 100% agree that it's a problem15:08
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sdagueI just wanted to understand if sub resources scoped to instance really have that same concern15:08
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johnthetubaguyit might if we migrate between cells (scratches head)...15:09
sdagueif you can come up with an actual failure scenario, it's worth addressing15:09
alaskiwe would need to relink them in that case. it really comes down to whether or not users will consider anything about the id, if they just ignore them that's fine15:10
sdaguebut the flow is GET /os-migrations -> follow link to /servers/{uuid}/migration/{id}15:10
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johnthetubaguythe ID is in the URL15:10
johnthetubaguyyeah, that15:10
johnthetubaguyso when you move cell, you get new ids, to avoid clashes15:10
johnthetubaguyand that breaks the API, in its current form15:10
sdaguedoes it?15:10
alaskinot if they follow the flow15:10
alaskiif they hardcode an id, yes15:11
sdaguewe've stated that /servers/{uuid}/migration/{id} only exists when that live migration is active15:11
sdagueit's ephemeral15:11
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johnthetubaguyyeah, its just I think its moved as part of that flow... maybe we get away with it, as its always in the source cell15:11
sdagueso I guess the concern is that we randomly happen to get /servers/{uuid}/migration/{id} again in the future15:11
sdagueafter it's live migrated to a new cell?15:11
johnthetubaguyso we totally could, technically15:11
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sdaguewe could15:12
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sdaguewe could also 500 error if you pass | as a server arg15:12
johnthetubaguyif on cell has less migrations, it might get up to the same id again15:12
johnthetubaguythink move to empty cell, for a busy cell15:12
johnthetubaguybut its very edge case, I think...15:12
sdagueyeh, it's more edge than most of what's here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=api15:13
sdagueso before over thinking that issue, we should fix some of those bugs :)15:13
johnthetubaguyit feels bad adding new, slightly broken things, but I agree we have bigger things to worry about, really15:13
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sdaguehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1546396 for instance15:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1546396 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova api throws 500 error when invalid name passed to servers" [High,In progress] - Assigned to jichenjc (jichenjc)15:13
johnthetubaguythat bloody error, again, arg.15:14
bauzascdent: had some comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277466/2515:14
sdagueyeh, well, if anyone can help me figure out how to reset the global session in oslo.db we can nail this one with lists15:14
johnthetubaguywe have move to uuids later, if this turns out to be an issue, although we know thats properly painful15:14
sdaguewith tests15:14
dimsrpodolyaka : ^^ :)15:15
cdentthanks bauzas15:15
bauzascdent: that's not necessary a blocker hence me +1ing15:15
bauzascdent: just in case you need to respin...15:15
johnthetubaguysdague: so there is one more thing on that, the return format, should it not start with {migration:{}}? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258771/23/nova/tests/functional/api_sample_tests/api_samples/server-migrations/v2.23/migrations-get.json.tpl15:15
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: personally, the extra nesting level never made sense to me15:16
cdentbauzas: that's all artifacts from dansmith removing the allocation stuff. I can clean it up more if desired, but it is all going to go back in in a not too far away followup.15:16
sdagueI can go either way15:16
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bauzascdent: sure, again, hence me +1ing15:16
johnthetubaguysdague: I wish this was filled in, I guess: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/representation_structure.html#singular-resources15:16
dansmithbauzas: yep, and I commented in the commit message about that I think.. or a comment somewhere15:16
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bauzasdansmith: which change, sorry ? :)15:17
johnthetubaguysdague: in the absence of that, I have to agree with you15:17
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sdaguedims: my question about that is on the mailing list fwiw - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/087324.html15:17
bauzasdansmith: ah, the Inventories change, yeah saw that15:17
bauzasdansmith: so I'm fine15:17
dansmithbauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277466/25/nova/objects/resource_provider.py15:17
dimssdague : yes, just got online (on west coast time)15:17
dansmithdims: where?15:17
bauzasdansmith: I just pointed out some test having an attribute not really in use15:18
dimsdansmith : sunnyvale15:18
dansmithdims: california? bummer ...15:18
bauzasdansmith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277466/25/nova/tests/unit/objects/test_resource_provider.py@4815:18
dimstime off from snow and heavy jackers :)15:18
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dansmithbauzas: yeah, forgot that15:18
sdaguedims: meh, it's in the 40s here this week, so only light jackets15:18
dansmithhere as well, although supposed to crack 60 here today15:19
dimsy last week was not bad15:19
cdentdansmith, bauzas: I'll wait on jaypipes comments and then clean that out. Seem like a plan?15:19
cdent(the test stuff, not the subclass)15:19
dansmithcdent: did you fix the test I broke?15:19
bauzascdent: don't worry, we can merge and fix later15:19
cdentdansmith: yes15:19
dansmiththen yeah, if bauzas is okay I'd say we push forward15:20
bauzasI'm fine, I just +1d because I'm shy (jk)15:20
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dansmithit's fine15:20
bauzasbut alaski was having some other question about read_only15:20
bauzasdansmith: ^15:20
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bauzasso he was waiting your voice15:20
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jaypipescdent: first patch done review.15:21
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alaskidansmith: I'm not 100% clear on when it should be used, so wanted your double check on using it for the id field15:21
dansmithalaski: so, the deal is.. I think we have a bug somewhere in the serializer around readonly fields.. I was getting some failures during remotable calls15:21
dansmithalaski: so I left it off and need to investigate15:21
openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova: Add new APIs and deprecate old API for migrations  https://review.openstack.org/25877115:21
dansmithbut that's stuff I can do after FF in o.vo15:22
alaskidansmith: it was added in15:22
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alaskiI'm used to it not being used there15:22
dansmithalaski: oh and the tests pass?15:22
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dansmithalaski: you're used to it not being there because we didn't have it in the beginning15:22
dansmithactually, I'm not sure id is the field I was having trouble with.. it was a more complicated one I think15:23
dansmithah, yeah, I think it was me trying to make the resource_provider object field read-only15:23
dansmithand that was getting smacked by the deserialization code, which makes sense15:23
dansmithbut yeah, anything like this should be read-only if we can15:24
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cdentdansmith: yeah, I tried to do that do and couldn't15:24
cdentand had confusion on why15:24
dansmithyeah, that's some bug I need to fix15:24
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dansmithprobably because we set it twice in the deserializer or something15:25
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alaskidansmith: okay. I knew there was some issues with read_only but don't understand them so I want to make sure it's kosher to use there15:25
alaskilooks like it is15:25
cdentso, since jaypipes had some suggested changes, I'll do those and remove the useless allocations stuff. Anybody have anything else they want to get dibs on?15:25
dansmithalaski: yeah15:26
jaypipescdent: what useless allocations stuff?15:26
cdentjaypipes: dansmith extract allocations to another patch, but forgot accidently left a test constant in15:26
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cdentso that constant needs to be moved to the other patch15:26
cdentas it is unused15:27
jaypipescdelatte: ah15:27
jaypipescdent: ah :)15:27
cdentthat's a good name for me, since I drink a lot of coffee and am _definitely_ a latte sipping liberal. Except that I don't like latte's any more15:27
cdentmainlines espresso15:28
jaypipescdent: so which patch should I review next? I think 280333 is no longer valid given the updated specs that changed the requried schema migrations, right?15:28
cdentjaypipes: probably this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281837/15:29
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cdenthas merge conflict because of migration numbers, but I was going to fix that after the parent merged15:29
cdentstacked below that one is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281945/ but that one is well out of date15:29
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vishwana_sgordon, Hi, per your suggestion on the IRC chat yesterday related to the issue I am facing with SR-IOV, I have posted a question on ask.openstack.org at link https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/88782/unable-to-create-a-vm-with-sr-iov-port/ ... would appreciate any guidance from your side to unblock/resolve the issue...thanks in advance for your help.15:34
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mnaserhow's nova + hyperv support these days?  we're considering adding a subnet of HVs that run hyperv for windows-only vms15:39
mnaserfor licensing reasons as well as possibly better support overall15:39
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claudiub|2mnaser: hello. hyper-v is free, as a hypervisor (unless you get windows server). Currently, nova supports Windows / Hyper-V Server 2012 or newer (including 2016), while 2008 R2 has been deprecated in liberty. If you want to give it a go, you can fetch the installer here: https://cloudbase.it/openstack-hyperv-driver/15:43
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mnaserclaudiub|2: interesting, i think there is an advantage in paying license fees only for the host (hypervisor) and then host an unlimited # of window hosts inside it15:44
mnaserthat looks like an interesting installer though15:44
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claudiubmnaser: ofc, windows guests perform better on hyper-v, as well as certain workloads (hadoop, for example), especially if the power config option is set to 'high performance' (it is set to 'balanced' by default)15:46
claudiubsorry, was disconnected.15:46
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mnaserno problem!  we'll have to do quite some testing to integrate this with our existing cloud.  it's a long ways away from what we're usually used to15:46
mnasercompatible with ceph for block storage too??15:47
claudiubmnaser: well, you do need one host to be licenced (active directory node), so you can join your nodes into the AD, having then live-migration, for example.15:47
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mnaserthey'll probably all be licensed (we have an SPLA agreement) .. but hell, even dealing with licensing is a big initial complication :)15:48
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claudiubmnaser: well, you can try out the evaluation images. they have 180 days trial + they are sysprepped: https://cloudbase.it/windows-cloud-images/15:49
mnasergre networking not supported, ouch15:49
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: around?15:50
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: I think we need to figure out what to do about this .all() thing in the migrations15:50
claudiubmnaser: hyper-v does support nvgre though. We've managed to have gre networks using the hyper-v's nvgre.15:50
mnaserclaudiub: im unsure what nvgre is and how compatible that would be with the existing gre infrastructure we use15:51
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: I feel like puppet and chef people are going to just say "run the whole deal, let me know when you're done" and cause people to fail to apply all in the middle of an upgrade, which is not cool15:51
johnthetubaguydansmith: I am here15:51
johnthetubaguyoh, yes15:51
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: so one option is to put it heavy in the reno, but we know that won't get everyone15:51
mriedemsdague: can you explain extensions in v2.1? like i thought we didn't allow 'extensions' in v2.1 but isn't everything in there an extension?15:51
mriedemor they just aren't optional in v2.1?15:51
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: the other would be to put a user prompt in the nova-manage top level command making them confirm they know they're doing a likely-to-fail thing, which will fail if there is no stdin, etc15:51
jaypipescdent: reviewed.15:52
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: of course the third option is to do the thing where we batch mandatorily15:52
johnthetubaguydansmith: oh, you mean doing everything in one go is likely to fail?15:52
jaypipesdansmith: k, what's the next priority patch I should review in the series?15:52
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: one could argue that we'll never choose the right batch size for memory and performance, but I feel like it's better to default to something that works15:52
claudiubmnaser: nvgre is pretty much gre (+1 extra byte), and it has a couple of limitations, unfortunately: cannot have a gateway ending with a .1 and the tunnel_id has to be > 4096. Other than that, works the same and it's compatible with ovs.15:53
johnthetubaguydansmith: yeah, I am all for pick something that works 80% of the time, for that puppet case15:53
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: right.. if we do .all() on pci_devices on a 100 node deployment in a 1G "service vm" then that's going to fail15:53
mnaserclaudiub: we'd have to look into tha tthen.. makes things a bit harder now :(15:53
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: so prompting for yes/no and defaulting to no will mean puppet will never work if they don't account for this, which might be good15:53
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: but the puppet people also don't have an easy way to loop-apply things I think15:54
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: which means it would be better to do the batching for them in the "finish everything" case15:54
johnthetubaguydansmith: why can't we just sit in a loop, by default, doing batches of 50 or something?15:54
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: we can, ndipanov doesn't want to15:54
claudiubmnaser: anyways, but we do support ovs on windows, meaning that anything can go on windows as well: flat, vlan, gre, vxlan, etc.15:54
claudiubmnaser: https://cloudbase.it/openvswitch/15:55
mnaserclaudiub: that's true, just not sure why it's listed at not supported on the website15:55
johnthetubaguyso I haven't caught up with ndipanov about this one recently, ndipanov: what is your concern about us looping in little batches by default, till we are finished?15:55
dansmithndipanov: what if I follow up with a patch that does the looping at the nova-manage level and arranges for .all() to never be actually called in the handler functions in the used-from-cli case ?15:55
claudiubmnaser: for the networking side, as an l2 agent, you can either opt for networking_hyperv, which can only support flat, vlan, (nv)gre, or you can opt for the ovs_agent, which can support flat, vlan, gre, vxlan, etc.15:56
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johnthetubaguydansmith: yeah, I like logging each batch as it happens, so the outer loops is probably easiest15:56
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278079/6/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py15:56
sdaguemriedem: extensions as a concept are deprecated15:57
mnaserclaudiub: oh i see, so there's two different implementations.  i see now, im assuming networking_hyperv works better in some sense (more integrated) and ovs_agent is more decoupled like the kvm driver15:57
sdaguethe infrastructure for how code works in 2.1 is all extensions in code15:57
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: maybe he's just against a batch size limit and not against the looping15:57
sdaguewe'll clean that up over time15:57
johnthetubaguydansmith: oh, gotcha, yeah, maybe15:57
claudiubmnaser: indeed, networking_hyperv is the native hyper-v implementation.15:57
mnaserthat explains why the gre stuff is unsuppoted then.  interesting15:58
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: so do you want to just apply this and I'll add it to my list?15:58
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: add the looping that is15:58
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cdentthanks for that uutf8 incantation jaypipes, in a few of the earlier patches I laid out some "halp, halp!" comments, because I had no clue15:58
johnthetubaguydansmith: I think we need it more than we need the perfect answer15:58
claudiubmnaser: as for block storage, we do support iscsi, smb volumes and fibre channel15:58
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mnaserclaudiub: i guess we'd have to figure out how to use ceph with iscsi in that case15:59
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: tox: Remove 'oslo.versionedobjects' dependency  https://review.openstack.org/26921316:00
claudiubmnaser: not really a block storage expert myself, but I think it can be done.16:00
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mnaserclaudiub: i'll do my readings, thank you for the information .. there'll be a fun process of decision making i guess16:01
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johnthetubaguydansmith: so I have +2ed it, in the we need this now sense of a +216:01
claudiubmnaser: sure, no problem. if you have any other questions, let me know. :)16:02
mnaserclaudiub: appreciate it mate, have a good one :)16:02
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: resource-provider versioned objects  https://review.openstack.org/27746616:09
cdentjaypipes, bauzas, dansmith, alaski ^ Will come back in an hour or so to clean up the dependent patch. Need to cach the last few rays of sun before it goes away for the next month.16:11
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bauzascdent: so, you work in Transylvania ?16:11
cdentCornwall, Translyvania, close enough.16:11
claudiubit's already dark in transylvania. :( need to get some garlic.16:12
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Bobbajohnthetubaguy: Could you add the bugfix at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254022/ to your review list?  You reviewed a month ago and it's got a +2 from another core so hopefully can land soon16:24
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ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, dansmith sorry was away16:29
ndipanovI think it's unnecessary16:29
ndipanovthere is already a way to limit this16:29
ndipanovas I explained on the previous patch - it's just not an actual issue imho16:30
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ndipanovand is very dubious that batches would actually fix anything16:30
johnthetubaguyso batches we totally need in production16:31
johnthetubaguyour read slaves lag behind if there are too many writes16:31
ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, so that' can be done with the limit16:31
johnthetubaguythe batch size and waits lets us throttle back the DB load16:31
ndipanovthat exists16:31
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johnthetubaguyOK, I missunderstood you16:31
ndipanovalthough you have to actually write a script with sleep/add a cron job16:31
johnthetubaguythat was me saying the limit is needed16:31
ndipanovthat is there16:31
ndipanovwhat's also there is a way to do a oneshot16:32
ndipanovwhich is what I understand you also wanted to attempt to slice up in batches16:32
dansmithndipanov: batches are needed for things like puppet16:32
dansmithndipanov: and for most people that are going to run this offline until it's done16:32
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johnthetubaguyI guess we are just not convinced that on a large deployment, that oneshot will actually work16:32
ndipanovdansmith, so we have that16:32
ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, well there's a fermi math on the comment16:33
dansmithndipanov: we do not16:33
* mdbooth had forgotten the misery of merge conflicts in a large patch series :(16:33
ndipanovok we do not you need to do a loop in bash16:33
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ndipanovor am I missing something dansmith16:33
johnthetubaguywe are saying we shouldn't need to force folks to do that loop in bash16:34
johnthetubaguyI think16:34
johnthetubaguyfor the puppet case16:34
ndipanovI don't get the puppet case16:34
dansmithndipanov: right, so for puppet, looping is not a thing they can do16:34
dansmithunless they literally spawn a bash -c 'for ...' which is not cool16:34
openstackgerritAndrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Abort an ongoing live migration  https://review.openstack.org/27797116:35
ndipanovdansmith, but when does puppet run that?16:35
dansmithndipanov: when does puppet run this at all?16:36
dansmithsame time they run db_sync ?16:36
dansmithor in a different place/time if they were to break up the task16:36
ndipanovso in that case all() is fine16:36
dansmithbut still16:36
dansmithit's not!16:36
sheelDear Nova members16:36
sheelits regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282862/16:37
dansmithbecause it will run out of memory for any reasonable size deployment16:37
sheelcould you please find some spare time to review it?16:37
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ndipanovno it won't16:37
ndipanovread my comment16:37
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ndipanovdansmith, ^16:37
ndipanovon previous patchset16:37
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dansmithndipanov: you'll have to point me at it16:38
ndipanovdansmith, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278079/6/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py16:38
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johnthetubaguythis was the 4KiB per PCI thing?16:38
ndipanovyes 1k though16:39
ndipanovand 1000 pci devices per host16:39
mdboothHmm, a recent change to tox.ini seems to require a newer version of pip than I have16:39
sheeljaypipes: hi there16:39
mdboothIs this a deliberate thing?16:39
johnthetubaguyits just we do see the API used a few GBs when listing over 1000 images16:39
dansmithndipanov: yeah, I'm not convinced :)16:39
dansmithyeah, it's reported sooo often16:39
johnthetubaguymdbooth: yes, you need 7.1 or higher now, so we can use the "-c" option16:39
ndipanovdansmith, what is?16:39
dansmithand it comes from us selecting large batches of things out of sqla16:39
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johnthetubaguymdbooth: turns out upgrading venv is important16:39
dansmithndipanov: OOMing due to selecting huge batches out of the database16:40
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jaypipessheel: on a call. in async mode. ;)16:40
sheeljaypipes: ohk16:40
ndipanovdansmith, well I don't believe that batching up inside the session is going to help at all but that's just my assumption16:40
ndipanovdansmith, fwiw - this is exactly how the flavor one worked16:41
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mdbooth[mbooth@workstation nova (libvirt_storage_pools)]$ pip -V16:41
mdboothpip 8.0.2 from /home/mbooth/.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (python 2.7)16:41
mdbooth[mbooth@workstation nova (libvirt_storage_pools)]$ pip -c16:41
mdbooth  pip <command> [options]16:41
mdboothno such option: -c16:41
johnthetubaguyndipanov: the gc should kick in and help us, at least that is what seems to happen in other similar cases, totally needs testing though16:41
sheeljaypipes: just need some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282862/16:41
sheeljaypipes: plz review once u got time16:41
mdboothI'm going to have to overwrite my system-install pip, aren't I? :(16:41
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sheeljaypipes: thanks16:42
ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, @main_context_manager.writer inside this I assume everything is referenced16:42
johnthetubaguymdbooth: yes, I think so, although I think upgrading venv might be enough, but I am not sure16:42
ndipanovso no gc16:42
dansmithndipanov: so if we merge your patch and I do the  batching, are you opposed to it?16:42
johnthetubaguyndipanov: hmm, true, we might need a new context each loop16:43
ndipanovdansmith, well other than feeling slightly patronized which I stoped caring about - no16:43
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make online_data_migrations do smaller batches in unlimited case  https://review.openstack.org/28367716:43
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix two bugs in online_data_migrations()  https://review.openstack.org/28367816:43
ndipanovknock yourself out my friend16:43
dansmithndipanov: the latter patch there fixes two important issues, by the way16:43
* mdbooth wonders how much stuff he just broke16:43
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: the way I'm looping in nova-manage I think we should be good because we're dropping in and out of writer, right?16:45
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johnthetubaguydansmith: possibly... its just they are re-entrant in some funky way16:45
ndipanovdansmith, yeah that's good16:45
ndipanovor should be16:45
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ndipanovdansmith, how come tests didn't catch the formatting issues?16:51
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dansmithndipanov: because you didn't test the error path, and the other one prints, just not what you want16:51
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dansmithmdbooth: run .tox/py27/bin/pip -V16:51
dansmithndipanov: I meant to add a test for the error path, hang on16:52
mdboothdansmith: I blew away .tox and have been testing against pep816:52
mdboothpep8 doesn't have bin/pip16:52
johnthetubaguyndipanov: dansmith: I was reading through, who creates the context now? that decorator?16:52
bauzasmdbooth: it's a virtualenv version problem16:52
dansmithmdbooth: uh, it doesn't?16:52
bauzasnot a pip one16:52
mdboothbauzas: Any idea which virtualenv?16:52
bauzasmdbooth: since virtualenv bundles a pip version in it16:53
mdboothAh... you mean the virtualenv package16:53
mdboothbauzas: Thanks, will investigate16:53
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johnthetubaguyyeah, thats what I was meaning about upgrading venv, sorry16:53
mdboothThat's pretty awful :(16:53
mdboothI think I knew that, but had blocked it16:53
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bauzasmdbooth: you can see in your python path which pip wheel is stored within the virtualenv_storage lib16:53
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bauzasbut don't change the wheel, rather upgrade the package (using pip or your distro)16:54
ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, context as in nova.context?16:54
johnthetubaguyndipanov: as in the first argument of the migration_meth16:54
ndipanovno we pass it in16:55
bauzasmdbooth: what you need to care is to have a site-packages lib containing the right wheel, that's it16:55
mdboothbauzas: Up and running again :) Thanks.16:55
johnthetubaguyndipanov: I am being blind, I don't see it :S16:55
bauzasmdbooth: np16:55
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ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, hmmm :/16:55
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mdboothFor posterity, and other Fedora users who don't like messing with system packages, I did:16:56
johnthetubaguyI wonder if there is a bad mock in the test here16:56
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mdboothpip install --user --upgrade virtualenv16:56
mdboothpip install --user --upgrade pip16:56
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ndipanovyes it is16:56
ndipanovwe should roll it in with dansmith 's fix16:57
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dansmithndipanov: johnthetubaguy say what now?16:57
johnthetubaguyturns out its all broken, we don't pass a context to the DB method16:57
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johnthetubaguyI think its the new context on each loop that should stop the memory leak16:58
johnthetubaguywell, give the gc a chance, I supose16:58
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ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, hmmm16:58
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/28213616:59
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johnthetubaguyndipanov: well, I guess I am assuming a new context means you get a new session17:01
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ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, it would seem so from the code unless there is some magic by the writer stuff there17:02
ndipanovlike you suspected17:02
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dansmithI think that's right17:04
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ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, it would seem that it does cache it17:05
johnthetubaguyndipanov: I thought the caching was in the context object?17:06
ndipanovso looking at this17:06
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ndipanovit does17:08
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dansmithdoes "it does" mean "it's cached in the context" ?17:09
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ndipanovdansmith, yes17:09
ndipanovwell it would appear so from that code at least17:10
ndipanovit's somewhat terse17:10
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make online_data_migrations do smaller batches in unlimited case  https://review.openstack.org/28367717:10
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix two bugs in online_data_migrations()  https://review.openstack.org/28367817:10
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix online_data_migrations() not passing context  https://review.openstack.org/28370117:10
johnthetubaguyyeah, I think its in the context, so we should be fine17:10
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ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, so we do context.session in our db methods17:12
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Add a lock() context manager to image backend  https://review.openstack.org/27962517:12
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Rename Raw backend to Unbacked  https://review.openstack.org/27962617:12
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Update import_file to provide a general-purpose interface  https://review.openstack.org/26766217:12
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Fix signature of copy_image  https://review.openstack.org/28243217:12
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove fake_imagebackend.Raw and cleanup dependent tests  https://review.openstack.org/26766117:12
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Rename Image.check_image_exists to Image.exists()  https://review.openstack.org/27099817:12
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated option libvirt.remove_unused_kernels  https://review.openstack.org/26588617:12
ndipanovbut looking at the enginefacade code17:12
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Only attempt to inject files if the injection disk exists  https://review.openstack.org/25087217:12
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Don't convert raw disks to qcow2 during resize/migrate  https://review.openstack.org/28370217:12
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Don't overwrite existing config file on resize/migrate  https://review.openstack.org/28370317:12
ndipanovit looks for _enginefacade_context17:12
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ndipanovso I am at this point not sure which one is actually used17:12
johnthetubaguyndipanov: looks like there is more magic: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/context.py#L6417:13
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mdboothndipanov: I'm coming late to this party. What's the issue?17:14
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johnthetubaguymdbooth: when doing online data migrations, we don't want to use too much memory17:15
ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, ok in that case yes it's cached17:15
mdboothjohnthetubaguy: So you specifically want to use a single session?17:16
ndipanovso we need to give it a new admin context on each run17:16
johnthetubaguyno, the opposite17:16
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mdboothOh, ok17:16
johnthetubaguyright, which is what dansmith's patch does17:16
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mdboothSo, the context is added dynamically by a decorator17:16
mdboothAnd also removed17:17
ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, ok17:17
mdboothYou shouldn't need a new context object each time, as long as there is no currently active db session17:17
mdboothEven if there is a currently active db session, there's an api to start a new one if you want17:18
ndipanovmdbooth, that was our problem - we run this as a data migration script17:18
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ndipanovso the assumption is if we don't do this all stuff is referenced forever inside the session even if we loop over the method17:18
mdboothndipanov: So the script is called from a context which has previous set @writer?17:18
ndipanovand never gets GCed17:18
ndipanovin a loop17:19
mdboothndipanov: Interesting. Which method is that?17:19
mdboothndipanov: I don't see it17:20
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mdboothThat passes in a request context, but it doesn't create a db writer context17:20
ndipanovassume migration_meth is decorated17:20
mdboothOk, that's fine too17:20
mdboothBecause the db session should be created and torn down on each call17:21
mdboothSo successive calls will have different db sessions17:21
mdboothThey would only share a session if you put @writer on, eg, _run_migration17:21
ndipanovmdbooth, ok got it - might be worth fixing actually17:21
mdboothIf that's not the case, then that sounds like a bug in oslo_db17:22
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ndipanovyeah I'd say you are actually right17:23
johnthetubaguyOK, I remember, the session gets reused when the decoratored method calls other methods, I got things mixed up17:25
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ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, right rexiting the context manager kills the cached session17:26
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johnthetubaguyyeah, makes sense now17:26
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/28213617:29
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openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Fix backing file copying  https://review.openstack.org/28227517:33
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mriedemalaski: anything you want to add to L140 here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283206/2/specs/newton/approved/get-me-a-network.rst17:38
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mdboothgstepanov: Hey, you left me a -1 but forgot to leave a review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279626/17:41
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mdboothgstepanov: Any idea what the issue was?17:41
gstepanovSorry, i've fogot to post a comment, i will do that soon17:42
mdboothCool, thanks.17:42
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alaskimriedem: yeah, I'll add some thoughts which boil down to I agree with your latest comment there. We can only really afford quick "are we set up for this" checks.17:47
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix two bugs in online_data_migrations()  https://review.openstack.org/28367817:48
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix online_data_migrations() not passing context  https://review.openstack.org/28370117:48
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dansmithndipanov: you want me to grab the context in the top level method and pass it through so we're not creating it in the inner method, right?17:53
ndipanovyes I think that would be enough17:55
johnthetubaguyndipanov: dansmith: yeah, given the above discussion, either should work17:55
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Adjust resource-providers models for resource-pools  https://review.openstack.org/28183717:56
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make online_data_migrations do smaller batches in unlimited case  https://review.openstack.org/28367717:58
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix two bugs in online_data_migrations()  https://review.openstack.org/28367817:58
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix online_data_migrations() not passing context  https://review.openstack.org/28370117:58
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cdentalaski, bauzas, johnthetubaguy, jaypipes I reckon this is good to go: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277466/18:00
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thorst_markusz: Will there be a bugs meeting today?18:10
rpodolyakasdague: this should help https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283728/ , although, it currently uses the non-public class from oslo.db18:10
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rpodolyakawe should probably refactor it to be a public fixture in oslo.db18:11
dimsrpodolyaka : +118:11
mdboothJenkins says: This change depends on a change that failed to merge.18:11
mdboothBut I just rebased18:11
alaskimriedem: I fixed the rest of the test issues in test_compute from yesterday https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283178/18:11
mdboothIs Jenkins wrong?18:11
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jaypipescdent, dansmith, alaski: wallaby'd18:13
mriedemalaski: nice, i'll review after food18:13
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jaypipescdent: on 281837, you did not address my comments around using server_default=0, not default=0. was that an oversight or did you disagree?18:17
cdentjaypipes: oversight. overly focused on the mechanics of the of mysql stuff18:18
cdentand then getting frustrated with merged conflicts18:18
cdentI'll fix it when I rebase18:18
jaypipescdent: coolio.18:18
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cdentjaypipes: is your suggestion that default and server_default should be in all four places where I've used default?18:19
cdent(migration and model)18:20
jaypipescdent: no, my suggestion is to use server_default only since default is pointless in that code because it's never used python-side.18:20
cdentk, but both migration and model?18:20
jaypipescdent: and you will want to make a similar change in model.18:20
jaypipessorry... in model, do both. in migration, only server_default.18:21
cdentHmmm. Clearly we should stop this ORM whooooha18:21
cdentAnyway, I'll do that after I go look at the sea.18:22
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mdboothgstepanov: Just a reminder, -1 but still no review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279626/18:33
mdboothI can't address a problem I don't know about18:33
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jaypipesalaski, johnthetubaguy, dansmith: your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283253 appreciated.18:35
jaypipesbauzas: ^^ you too.18:35
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penickjaypipes basically everyone but me18:37
jaypipespenick: :) lol18:37
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add instances into dict when handle exception  https://review.openstack.org/28038218:48
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Fix networking exceptions in ComputeTestCase  https://review.openstack.org/28317819:14
mriedemalaski: was talking with armax here in the room for the neutron meetup, posted more details in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283206/19:14
mriedemon the api side validation vs actually taking the one time cost of creating the network in the api19:14
mriedemsdague: ^ your comments would also be helpful there19:15
mriedemsdague: L14019:15
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: resource-provider versioned objects  https://review.openstack.org/27746619:16
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cdentjaypipes: I forgot to update the inventory ovo hash on that ^, could you hit it again?19:17
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jaypipescdent: done19:17
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alaskimriedem: I'm digging into the bfv case and I don't see any calls to cinder form the api when nova is going to create the volume19:26
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mriedemalaski: right, we don't19:29
mriedemfor BFV it all happens in the compute19:29
mriedemi don't think we even check quotas with cinder19:29
mriedemfor volume attach we check the volume status and set it to 'attaching' from the api, then cast to compute and actually attach the volume to the instance there19:30
mriedemi think we should actually create the volume for BFV from nova-api, but that's a separate thing19:30
mriedemit's non-blocking for one19:30
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mriedemat least we'd get the quota and AZ checks from cinder earlier than compute19:31
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alaskiokay, I thought your comment was saying that we reserved something in the bfv case19:33
mriedemsorry, no, i think i was mixing volume attach in with that19:34
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kfox1111question. got a compute node trying to talk to nova api on public I think rather then internal. any way to change that?19:35
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alaskimriedem: I'm really hesitant to have a call to Neutron which does any more than a quick check. The check-and-create-if-not-there thing worries me for performance19:36
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mriedemright, i'm updating the spec with some wording there on why we don't do it19:37
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vilobhmm11dansmith : seeing a problem to enable conductor in juno and getting raise exception.DBNotAllowed('nova-network')  any inputs because i saw you added code https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/network.py#L65 to prohibit compute to make direct network related db calls19:41
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: fix usage of opportunistic test cases with enginefacade  https://review.openstack.org/28372819:42
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: add regression test for bug #1538011  https://review.openstack.org/28336419:42
openstackbug 1538011 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Aggregate metadata keys are not case sensitive" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1538011 - Assigned to Augustina Ragwitz (auggy)19:42
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: add a place for functional test to block specific regressions  https://review.openstack.org/28201219:42
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: add regression test for bug #1541691  https://review.openstack.org/28326119:42
openstackbug 1541691 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "server boot with leading and trailing white spaces in name, displays weird error message" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541691 - Assigned to Alex Xu (xuhj)19:43
sdagueauggy: ok, I have working test infrastructure for mysql specific bugs thanks to rpodolyaka_afk19:43
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vilobhmm11dansmith : ^^19:45
doffmalaski: Will we need a separate spec for each of the database migrations. I have tried writing specs for single tables and it feels too repetitive. The spec for ALL tables feels like its too light on info.19:46
alaskidoffm: yeah I don't think we can do all of them in one. Does there seem to be a natural grouping that would hit a middle ground?19:47
doffmI'm looking. I think so. (Networking, Instance types and aggregates, Security groups, quotas and.... others.)19:48
doffmThere is a grab bag of tables outside those groups.19:49
dansmithvilobhmm11: you get that from a juno network node when?19:49
vilobhmm11dansmith : at the time of instance creation19:49
dansmithvilobhmm11: I mean under what situations.. this is juno code right?19:50
vilobhmm11yes juno code19:50
dansmithvilobhmm11: and the network node is configured to use conductor of course19:50
alaskidoffm: that's probably the way to do it then, grouped together. If the grab bag can all be handled in the same way maybe they can be lumped together.19:50
dansmithvilobhmm11: might be a bug in something we didn't properly convert.. you'd have to look and see what method it is and try to see if there is an upstream fix19:50
dansmithvilobhmm11: juno is eol'd now right?19:50
kfox1111on volume attach, nova-compute's trying to talk to the public endpoint for nova I think: https://public-addr:8776/v2/9614424bec724f7db9553233317066d7/volumes/6cd76927-56eb-430d-8759-9c1730617b4d19:51
alaskidoffm: I think mainly the specs need to be split when there's a difference in implemenation or something specific to consider for a table19:51
kfox1111how do you override that?19:51
doffmalaski: Most of the implementation is going to be the same. (Migrate on lookup of object, join tables from both dbs when looking up a list.)19:52
doffmThere are the issues with security groups, fixed_ips and resource pools, so those issues should go in separate specs.19:52
vilobhmm11dansmith : yes its eol but was prototyping something in juno inhouse by enabling conductor ..did this conf setting in nova.conf use_local=False and tried to boot vm it fails with exception.DBNotAllowed('nova-network')19:52
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doffmThen there would be 2-3 specs that look very similar.19:53
doffmWhich is probably OK.19:53
vilobhmm11dansmith : is there a blueprint or something that states what all was converted for juno19:53
sdaguekfox1111: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/128068182c5339595fc96ea387b09e08ef8b81a8/nova/volume/cinder.py#L43-L4719:53
dansmithvilobhmm11: yeah, so a bug fixed in later versions I expect19:53
dansmithvilobhmm11: not AFAIK19:53
vilobhmm11dansmith : i see you had proposed lots of changes as part of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-network-objects19:54
doffmalaski: I'll write it that way for now, we can discuss tomorrow. I can always merge / split things later.19:54
kfox1111sdague: yeah, I set that to internalURL already. but the url above is a nova url, not a cinder one.19:54
dansmithvilobhmm11: right anything object related.. it'll have a lot more than just this stuff in it19:54
kfox1111hmm... though nova internal url isn't correct. maybe it uses internalURL set on cinder for both nova nad cinder?19:55
sdaguekfox1111: nope, that's a cinder url (at least based on the port used)19:55
vilobhmm11dansmith : so if i understand the problem correctly nova-compute when interacting with nova-conductor (for network data) does not have network data in object format becausefor juno i think only compute could talk to conductor and not any other service (like nova-network) please correct if wrong19:56
kfox1111sdague: it had 'compute' in its real url, which only are on the nova endpoint's. the volume ones all have volume in the url.19:57
kfox1111but it looks like fixing the nova entry to the internal dns name on the internal url fixed it.19:57
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kfox1111so it looks like nova's cinder driver does look up nova's api based on its internal/public setting, even though it looks like its specific to cinder.19:58
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dansmithvilobhmm11: no19:59
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kfox1111no, spoke too soon.19:59
kfox1111still failing...19:59
dansmithvilobhmm11: any service can talk to it. network was late, so probably is still trying to talk to the db directly somewhere19:59
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vilobhmm11dansmith : ok so need to figure out that place where nova-network tries to make direct db access and see if the later releases improved it in a way that those network calls don't do direct db quesries20:00
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vilobhmm11does that make sense ?20:01
dansmithvilobhmm11: what makes sense is to stop running juno. but if that's not possible, then yes, what you said :)20:01
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vilobhmm11dansmith : sure thing ! :) I have been advocating for it since long but look few things are beyond your control :) thanks a lot for your help !20:03
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kfox1111still seeing Failure: Unable to establish connection to https://compute.publicdomain:8776/v2/9614424bec724f7db9553233317066d7/volumes/6cd76927-56eb-430d-8759-9c1730617b4d. Retrying in 2.0s.20:03
alaskidoffm: that sounds good20:04
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kfox1111hmm... but the tcp port is volumes... I guess keystone's just screwed up... sorry for the noise.20:07
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP: Get Me a Network  https://review.openstack.org/28320620:08
mriedemarmax: alaski: sdague: ^ more explicit details added20:08
mriedemfleshed out the work items section too, i haven't touched the test scenarios or REST API sections yet20:08
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mriedemsdague: new api regression bug for you :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/154898020:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1548980 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova list --deleted as admin fails with 404" [Undecided,New]20:22
mriedemfails to lazy-load instance.services field20:23
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melwittdansmith: I was curious how does self.online_migrations get populated when using the online_data_migrations command?20:26
dansmithmelwitt: manually20:27
dansmithhang on20:27
dansmithmelwitt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278079/20:27
melwittdansmith: ah, thanks20:28
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openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Remove use of `list` as variable name  https://review.openstack.org/28378220:32
jrollsuper easy for the bored people ^20:32
sdaguemriedem: cool, did you triage it to the api tag?20:34
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mriedemhells yeah i did20:38
mriedemwas thinking about even writing a functional regression patch to show it20:38
mriedembased on your series20:38
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mriedemandreykurilin: comments i nhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/278454/20:43
mriedemandreykurilin: functionally it looks good, the -1 is for the duplication in the shell help messages20:44
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mriedemdansmith: did i miss a memo on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241562/20/doc/api_samples/os-extended-server-attributes/v2.16/server-get-resp.json20:50
mriedemdo we not prefix extended server attributes with OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR anymore?20:50
dansmiththat was just from the days of extensions, no?20:50
dansmithlike "$extension_name:$key" I thought20:50
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mriedemwell, it's used elsewhere in here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241562/20/nova/api/openstack/compute/extended_server_attributes.py20:51
mriedemso maybe those are just for backward compat20:51
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dansmithright, but that's in what was the old extension right?20:52
mriedemwell, reservation_id was added in 2.3 and that's using the prefix20:52
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sdaguemriedem: deprecating extensions just means everything is frozen in space. It will need to be a microversion to change them up. I think that was done in 2.3 for consistency20:57
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mriedemso 2.3 is consistent with 2.020:58
mriedembut 2.16 is not20:58
mriedemwhich is inconsistent with 2.320:58
mriedemso i guess we made that rule somewhere between 2.3 and 2.16?20:58
sdaguethe winds shifted a bit20:58
dansmithpersonally I hate colons in key names20:59
dansmithregardless of the reason20:59
sdaguedansmith: agree20:59
sdaguelets not add more that way20:59
* dansmith frames "<sdague>dansmith: agree"20:59
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mriedemthat's fine, we should probably have a test somewhere that checks for that with whitelisted values so no new ones are added21:01
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mriedemin sean's new regressions functional test depot i guess21:01
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sdagueyeh, though the API changes a slow enough, and tend to get enough eyes, we can fix that with humans21:01
mriedemin review?21:01
mriedemi wouldn't bet on that21:01
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mriedemi mean, it obviously wasn't a thing anyone brought up in 2.321:02
sdague2.3 is the ec2 one?21:02
mriedemso i guess i file a testing api bug to add testing for that21:02
dansmithheh, depot.21:02
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mriedemor i could just add a comment to that api code saying, for 2.3 these are intentionally using the prefix for compat with 2.0, but new things shouldn't use this prefix21:03
sdaguespeaking of regression tests - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283261/21:03
auggysdague: omg thanks21:03
sdaguemriedem: that would be good21:03
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auggyon the mysql specific tests21:04
sdagueauggy: so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283364 is correctly currently failing21:04
sdagueif you fix that bug in that patch, it will jenkins +1 and you will be good21:04
auggyok cool21:04
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auggysdague: i can't remember what we decided the best way to fix it was... since the error was in the sql "IN" clause21:05
sdagueI'm going to poke at the | regex one tomorrow morning now that we have a thing that seems to work here21:05
auggywas it to not use "IN"?21:05
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sdagueno, it was just checking the keys after to make sure they are actually in the datastructure21:06
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1538011 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Aggregate metadata keys are not case sensitive" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Augustina Ragwitz (auggy)21:06
auggyoh right21:07
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auggyoh hey right we wrote notes in the bug21:07
sdagueyeh, that's why it's in Triaged state :)21:07
sdaguebecause it has the solution21:07
* auggy is on painkillers for back issue so not firing on all cylinders21:08
auggyat least that's my excuse today ;D21:08
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auggysdague: also i need another +2 from you for this, i had accidentally left some debug code in the version you +2'ed21:09
auggyso i had to upload another version of it21:09
doffmrlrossit_: Any idea if there is a reason why we don't have a versioned object for the 'Certificate' model? I guess this is only accessed in the API so we don't care?21:10
mriedemsdague: ^ there you go21:10
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add note about using OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR for attribute naming  https://review.openstack.org/28379721:10
mriedemsdague: ^21:10
auggyi'll work on getting that fix up for the aggregate data bug21:10
rlrossit_doffm: without looking, my guess would be because no one felt like doing it21:10
dansmithmriedem: don't you mean EXT-$anything ?21:10
dansmithwe have other such things21:10
dansmithI mean "$prefix:thing"21:10
doffmrlrossit_: Ok. We should do it then. If thats the only reason.21:11
rlrossit_doffm: you have a link to the Certificate DB model?21:11
sdaguedansmith: there are other places it pops up, but this is one of the hot spots21:11
dansmithsure, but..21:11
mriedemblech, az's, status and volumes also21:11
mriedemi can add notes in those too21:11
sdaguemriedem to add all the notes!21:11
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sdagueok, time to call it a day. Catch you folks tomorrow.21:12
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add note about using OS-EXT-* prefix for attribute naming  https://review.openstack.org/28379721:16
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mriedemdansmith: so this adds the 'services' attribute on the instance db model object right? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/models.py#L98-L10421:22
mriedemused here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L38021:22
dansmithmriedem: gee, what are you doing?21:23
mriedemtrying to fix a regression21:23
dansmithjust reviewing old code for the fun of it, huh? :P21:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1548980 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova list --deleted as admin fails with 404" [High,Triaged]21:23
dansmithyes to your queries21:23
mriedemok, so if the instance is deleted, does instance.services still exist on the db obj since it has that query for instance.deleted == 0?21:23
mriedemwhat i'm wondering is, if it's just easiest to check instance.deleted in nova.objects.instance.Instance.obj_load_attr21:24
mriedemand set self.services = None21:24
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dansmithseems reasonable.. not to load services if we're deleted yeah21:25
mriedembecause i think even if we load the deleted instance with expected_attrs including 'services', it's going to be None b/c of the instances.deleted == 0 here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/models.py#L98-L10421:25
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openstackgerritThomas Maddox proposed openstack/nova: [WIP - DO NOT MERGE] Testing LXC Gate  https://review.openstack.org/27479221:36
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dougwigmriedem: sdague: can i assume from that extension reply that optional APIs are no longer ever a thing in nova or microversions?21:40
mriedemsdague left, or said he left, but i think that's correct21:41
mriedemalaski: ^21:41
alaskiyes, that's correct21:41
mriedemyou can disable things via policy21:41
alaskioptional APIs are an interoperability nightmare21:41
mriedemyou have the same issue with policy right?21:42
mriedemand virt drivers that don't implement everything in the api21:42
alaskito a large extent yes21:42
alaskibut you don't have clouds adding their own methods of doing things vs using the in-tree APIs21:43
alaskiit could still happen, but it's no longer blessed21:43
alaskiI think defcore addresses the policy thing to some extent21:45
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mriedemoh yeah, defcore...21:49
mriedemi forget about that fun little bunny21:49
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alaskiIt was a huge concern for me a couple of months ago, these days I am relieved to not have to track it21:51
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Don't lazy-load instance.services if the instance is deleted  https://review.openstack.org/28382021:52
mriedemwas there a flushing sound that went off when you officially left rax?21:52
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mriedemyou don't have to answer that21:52
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dansmithhe did say "relieved"21:59
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/nova: Integrate OSprofiler and Nova  https://review.openstack.org/25470321:59
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jaypipes_gryf: hey, so a single shared disk resource pool containing an array of hdd and an array of ssd would be doable but it would still be just one giant pool of disk_gb. I would not advise doing that though, since the perf characteristics of hdd vs. ssd are pretty different. so, you'd want to have two distinct resource pools, one for the ssd and one for the hdd. that way you'd have some ability to attach a qualititative a22:01
jaypipesttribute to each pool to distinguish the quality of the resources provided by the pool.22:01
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: WIP: add functional regression test for bug 1548980  https://review.openstack.org/28383722:29
openstackbug 1548980 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova list --deleted as admin fails with 404" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1548980 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)22:29
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: WIP: add functional regression test for bug 1548980  https://review.openstack.org/28383722:35
openstackbug 1548980 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova list --deleted as admin fails with 404" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1548980 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)22:35
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create BuildRequest object during boot process  https://review.openstack.org/27812522:40
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add build_requests database table and model  https://review.openstack.org/26392622:40
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: WIP Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392722:40
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add BuildRequest object  https://review.openstack.org/27812422:40
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Make InstanceMappings.cell_id nullable  https://review.openstack.org/27859822:40
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot  https://review.openstack.org/26392522:40
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/nova: makea teh mtu work  https://review.openstack.org/28384722:52
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openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: check max_net_count against min_count when booting  https://review.openstack.org/28386123:29
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openstackgerritAugustina Ragwitz proposed openstack/nova: Double check aggregate metadata keys due to case insensitivity  https://review.openstack.org/28386823:49
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