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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Pass BDM in swap_volume method of LibvirtDriver https://review.openstack.org/257135 | 01:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add validations for volume_size and destination_type https://review.openstack.org/258788 | 01:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Replace assert statements in iptables and virt tests https://review.openstack.org/282992 | 01:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Re-propose ironic-networks-support for Newton https://review.openstack.org/297767 | 01:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Dongcan Ye proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Make http connection pool configurable https://review.openstack.org/265346 | 01:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "crypto" https://review.openstack.org/273916 | 01:31 |
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openstackgerrit | huan proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Support neutron security group https://review.openstack.org/251271 | 02:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "workarounds" https://review.openstack.org/298083 | 02:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "workarounds" https://review.openstack.org/298083 | 03:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "workarounds" https://review.openstack.org/298083 | 03:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Satoru Moriya proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Support boot from Cinder volume https://review.openstack.org/215385 | 04:20 |
openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: [DO Not Merge] Test patch to check migration logs https://review.openstack.org/298099 | 04:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Satoru Moriya proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Support boot from Cinder volume https://review.openstack.org/215385 | 06:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Abhishek Talwar proposed openstack/python-novaclient: flavor postional argument in nova boot help https://review.openstack.org/295681 | 07:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Preeti proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Prints "id" in place of "agent_id" for nova-agent commands. https://review.openstack.org/292754 | 07:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Remove a redundant 'that' https://review.openstack.org/298144 | 08:16 |
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openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Virt: add context to attach and detach interface https://review.openstack.org/209362 | 08:54 |
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openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Compute: remove the 'method' variable from InstanceInvalidState https://review.openstack.org/218629 | 08:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Reduce number of db calls during image cache manager periodic task https://review.openstack.org/298023 | 08:59 |
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openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: ensure volume is accessible by instance https://review.openstack.org/218639 | 09:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Replace flavors.get_all_flavors_sorted_list() with object call https://review.openstack.org/268801 | 09:02 |
openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Refactor and objectify flavor fakes used in api tests https://review.openstack.org/268800 | 09:02 |
openstackgerrit | Abhishek Talwar proposed openstack/python-novaclient: flavor postional argument in nova boot help https://review.openstack.org/295681 | 09:02 |
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dedery | Hi cores, can you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287515 (Fix failed snapshot on VMs with SRIOV ports) ? Thanks! | 09:26 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Using glance 'image-list'/'image-show' in boot help message https://review.openstack.org/298176 | 09:41 |
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openstackgerrit | javeme proposed openstack/nova: LiveMigration should check whether the dest host has enough vCPUs https://review.openstack.org/298177 | 09:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: Fix detach SR-IOV when using LibvirtConfigGuestHostdevPCI https://review.openstack.org/296305 | 09:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Madhuri Kumari proposed openstack/nova: Fix API Error on hypervisor-uptime API https://review.openstack.org/289868 | 09:49 |
openstackgerrit | javeme proposed openstack/nova: LiveMigration should check whether the dest host has enough vCPUs https://review.openstack.org/298177 | 09:50 |
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achinm | :garyk Hi gary, are you familiar with this patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281134 , which improves the image transfer ? | 10:02 |
achinm | i'm unable to find @rgerganov) | 10:02 |
achinm | here | 10:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Preeti proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Prints "id" in place of "agent_id" for nova-agent commands. https://review.openstack.org/292754 | 10:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Expose guest CPU instruction set extensions https://review.openstack.org/298188 | 10:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Jiajun Liu proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize cinder options https://review.openstack.org/298191 | 10:28 |
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garyk | achinm: yes. | 10:35 |
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garyk | achinm: it also resolves quite a few bugs | 10:36 |
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sdague | morning folks | 11:12 |
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achinm | garyk: i was kinda debugging snapshot issue in my environment.. I was seeing snapshot ova getting uploaded to glance within 1 and half minute.. | 11:25 |
garyk | achinm: can you try with that patch | 11:25 |
achinm | garyk: the size of the ova image is about 1.2 Gb and capacity is 60 GB. | 11:25 |
achinm | and the image which was getting exported to glance was around 400 MB | 11:26 |
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garyk | achinm: i suggest that you talk with rado then | 11:26 |
achinm | garyk: yes, i tried with that patch. actually backported it to liberty | 11:26 |
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garyk | achinm: maybe in the next decade it will be approved in nova | 11:27 |
achinm | garyk : haha | 11:27 |
achinm | garyk: rgerganov doesnt come here often, i believe | 11:28 |
achinm | ill just drop a mail to him , then ? | 11:28 |
garyk | i will see if he is around, i think that its easter monday | 11:28 |
garyk | yeah, maybe a mail or tomorrow he will be on line | 11:28 |
achinm | oh.. i see. Sure | 11:29 |
achinm | thanks, ill chat with him | 11:29 |
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garyk | achinm: i found him, he will log in | 11:30 |
achinm | garyk : ok, cool! | 11:30 |
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achinm | :rgerganov Hi Radoslav, i have some queries about this patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281134/4 | 11:32 |
rgerganov | achinm, hi, what do you want to know | 11:33 |
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achinm | was kinda debugging snapshot issue in one of my environments, it was timing out after 5 minutes. but the image was getting exported to glance... i called this update_progress while reading the chunks from VC | 11:35 |
achinm | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/vmwareapi/io_util.py#L177 , somethign like self.input.update_progress() | 11:36 |
achinm | So this helped, and i saw your patch later. | 11:37 |
achinm | without your patch, it was the image size which was getting exported to glance was about 370 MB odds for a instance booted with an ova image of size 1 GB and capacity 60GB | 11:38 |
achinm | BTW im trying out in stable/liberty... I backported your patch to liberty.. | 11:39 |
achinm | But the snapshot is taking about 10 minutes, and the image size is which got exported is 1 GB. | 11:40 |
achinm | Why is this difference ? | 11:40 |
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rgerganov | achinm, did you manage to boot from the 370MB instances? | 11:43 |
rgerganov | achinm, maybe something went wrong with the export hence the smaller size | 11:43 |
achinm | rgerganov : i'll giev it a shot too. I was thinking it used to export the differential disk, like how KVM does.. | 11:44 |
rgerganov | no, it exports the whole thing | 11:46 |
achinm | so lets say if i have an instance with an ova of 1 GB, having capacity 60 GB, with flavor size 80 Gb. so it should compress 80 gb vmdk into x sized ova and upload it , right ? | 11:48 |
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rgerganov | achinm, yes except the snapshot is not OVA but streamOptimized disk | 11:50 |
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achinm | rgerganov: oh..ok.. one more question about progress | 11:52 |
achinm | rgerganov: with the patch, when an ova image gets copied to datastore, the expectation is to see the progress in vshphere tasks ? | 11:54 |
achinm | *[im talking boot from ova scenario] | 11:55 |
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rgerganov | achinm, yeah, the progress should appear in vCenter | 11:56 |
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achinm | so, we are using size of the image https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/vmwareapi/images.py#L416 | 11:58 |
achinm | what if the user sets size property in glance | 11:58 |
achinm | wont it flaw the progress % shown ? | 11:58 |
achinm | beacuse in oslo_vmware : self._vmdk_size is used while calculating the progress | 11:59 |
rgerganov | achinm, yeah, the reported progress could be incorrect but it doesn't matter | 12:00 |
rgerganov | achinm, we are adding some introspection in glance that puts the real size of the image in 'virtual_size' property | 12:00 |
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rgerganov | achinm, and we use this in Nova | 12:01 |
rgerganov | achinm, but that's in our VMware product | 12:01 |
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achinm | how is it different from "size" property? | 12:01 |
rgerganov | 'size' is the compressed size, 'virtual_size' is the size of the virtual disk | 12:02 |
achinm | which is the real size , i believe | 12:02 |
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achinm | rgerganov : oops | 12:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: [POC] Allow user defined stop https://review.openstack.org/298221 | 12:39 |
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edleafe | So is Gerrit still on holiday? | 12:47 |
sdague | edleafe: seems fine to me | 12:48 |
edleafe | sdague: ok thanks. Nothing but timeouts here. | 12:48 |
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openstackgerrit | javeme proposed openstack/nova: Missing to update task state for confirm_resize https://review.openstack.org/244433 | 12:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add console log offset https://review.openstack.org/292473 | 13:05 |
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mriedem | Vek: are you ok with this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297772/ | 13:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/nova: List system dependencies for running common tests https://review.openstack.org/200672 | 13:54 |
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edleafe | Nova Scheduler subteam meeting in 2 minutes in #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:58 |
edleafe | ...if anyone's around, that is | 13:58 |
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sdague | definitely a slow day with all of europe off | 14:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Further hack up the n.t.unit.db.fakes module of horribleness https://review.openstack.org/296106 | 14:15 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Block flavor creation until main database is empty https://review.openstack.org/295310 | 14:15 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add flavor migration routine https://review.openstack.org/294771 | 14:15 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make Flavor create() and destroy() work against API DB https://review.openstack.org/294758 | 14:15 |
sarafraj | Good morning! | 14:16 |
dansmith | man, sure is nice to see that stack'o'patches so short | 14:16 |
mriedem | dansmith: are you working today? or still off? | 14:17 |
dansmith | mriedem: nope, it was just friday.. I'm here | 14:17 |
mriedem | ccarmack: i have something fun to do if you're interested | 14:18 |
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prazumovsky | Hi all! Can you help me with nova client and flavor behaviour? | 14:21 |
sarafraj | Hello Nova folks, I just want to do my quick introduction to this channel. My name is Raj (Sarafraj Singh) and I joined Intel recently. I am part of OSIC and will be working with Rackspace (johnthetubaguy) on Nova. Before joining Intel I worked for different storage companies delivering SDS solutions. Looking forward to work with you all! | 14:24 |
dansmith | alaski: I just replied to your comment about that migration | 14:24 |
dansmith | alaski: it's a little stickier than it looks on the wrapper | 14:24 |
doffm | sarafraj: Welcome. | 14:26 |
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sarafraj | doffm: thx | 14:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add console log offset https://review.openstack.org/292473 | 14:31 |
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mriedem | prazumovsky: just ask and if anyone can answer they will | 14:32 |
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mriedem | Yingxin: alex_xu: we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292362/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154339/ | 14:37 |
prazumovsky | OK, look. I use novaclient for creating, getting flavor. First step: I create flavor - create complete. Now I delete this flavor with CLI - delete complete. Now I get flavor with client - it returns object with all attributes. Check flavor list - no such flavor. Do flavor-show CLI command - returns table with flavor attrbiutes. Call flavor.get_keys() - returns NotFound. I expect that after deleting flavor it deletes and returns NotFound in c | 14:37 |
prazumovsky | ase of calling. | 14:37 |
mriedem | Yingxin: alex_xu: the latter has been around for over a year, but the former looks more ready to go? | 14:37 |
mriedem | Yingxin: alex_xu: if they are duplicates, can we abandon one of them? | 14:38 |
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mriedem | prazumovsky: GET on a specific flavor id will return soft-deleted flavors | 14:39 |
Yingxin | mriedem: alex_xu: please abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154339/ | 14:39 |
Yingxin | sorry forgot that | 14:39 |
alaski | dansmith: looking | 14:39 |
mriedem | prazumovsky: so it's working as designed. the flavor isn't really gone until you purge / archive your nova database | 14:40 |
alex_xu | Yingxin: mriedem, yea, will do that | 14:40 |
prazumovsky | mriedem: got it. And how I can check that flavor is soft-deleted? | 14:40 |
mriedem | alex_xu: thanks | 14:40 |
alex_xu | mriedem: np | 14:40 |
prazumovsky | flavor has no status:) | 14:40 |
mriedem | prazumovsky: it's deleted column in the db will be != 0 | 14:40 |
prazumovsky | and via novaclient there's no way to check that flavor is already soft-deleted? | 14:41 |
mriedem | prazumovsky: it won't be in nova flavor-list | 14:41 |
prazumovsky | OK, thanks | 14:41 |
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mriedem | prazumovsky: also, fyi on this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265282/ | 14:42 |
alaski | dansmith: I need to do the due diligence on the effects of deleting flavors for cellsv1. But I thought at this point they were mostly passed down, or stored in instance_extra, and not looked up past the api | 14:42 |
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dansmith | alaski: meaning that deleting them from the cell db shouldn't matter? | 14:42 |
alaski | dansmith: assuming no edge cases where a lookup is needed, yes | 14:43 |
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prazumovsky | mriedem, thanks, will read | 14:43 |
dansmith | alaski: yeah, so I really thought that we weren't clean on that yet.. isn't one of the things passed between the cells operators a script to keep flavors in sync across all the cells? | 14:43 |
dansmith | I thought that was still a thing since we did all our flavor cleanup, but maybe not | 14:44 |
alaski | dansmith: I don't know if it's still a thing after the migration, I need to check on that | 14:44 |
dansmith | okay | 14:44 |
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ccarmack | mriedem: what was the thing you wanted me to do? | 14:47 |
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mriedem | ccarmack: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1562323 | 14:54 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1562323 in OpenStack Compute (nova) mitaka "test_server_basic_ops rename in tempest is breaking cells job" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 14:54 |
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mriedem | ccarmack: i worked around that to get unblocked https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298065/ | 14:54 |
mriedem | ccarmack: but what we should be doing is using the uuid from the tempest tests for our regex file | 14:54 |
mriedem | ccarmack: for example the full test_id would be something like: "test_attach_detach_volume_to_instance[compute,id-fff42874-7db5-4487-a8e1-ddda5fb5288d,smoke,stress]" | 14:54 |
mriedem | so you'd want to change the regex you're using to exclude id-fff42874-7db5-4487-a8e1-ddda5fb5288d instead of test_attach_detach_volume_to_instance (assuming that was 1 of the skipped tests) | 14:55 |
ccarmack | mriedem: ok, so change to use the test id for the skipped tests | 14:55 |
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mriedem | ccarmack: yup | 14:57 |
mriedem | ccarmack: i'd probably start with just test_server_basic_ops and push a test patch to make sure that works before doing the rest | 14:57 |
alaski | dansmith: there are a few potential issues, not really cellsv1 related, but they're all backwards compatibility RPC code. look up the flavor if what came over the wire was not a Flavor object. | 14:57 |
alaski | dansmith: for cellsv1 there is a flavor lookup for the resize code | 14:58 |
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dansmith | ah | 14:58 |
alaski | dansmith: however, if we don't touch the flavors in the cells, that should still work | 14:58 |
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dansmith | alaski: seemed like not deleting them was the safest | 15:03 |
dansmith | alaski: and create at the top level will still work per normal | 15:03 |
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alaski | dansmith: and that just leaves an additional cleanup step for v1 users later to clear out the parent cell db? | 15:05 |
dansmith | alaski: no the migration will clear the api cell's main db, right? | 15:06 |
dansmith | it's just the other cell dbs that have to get cleaned up I tink | 15:06 |
alaski | yeah. I see now, the duplication error won't delete but the regular migration path will | 15:06 |
dansmith | right | 15:07 |
dansmith | they do still need to clean up the cell dbs, but not as critically | 15:07 |
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alaski | yeah. though for now they really need to have the flavors in the cells for resize | 15:08 |
alaski | so that works out | 15:08 |
dansmith | really need, or really only need? | 15:08 |
alaski | the latter | 15:09 |
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alaski | or backwards RPC compatibility. But I'm really really hoping that nobody is going to migrate to cells while running older services | 15:10 |
dansmith | alaski: okay so just to be clear, in order to satisfy that older RPC call the flavors still have to be look-up-able in the cell, but | 15:10 |
dansmith | if they're running all new stuff, there is no reason for them to remain? | 15:10 |
alaski | let me just double check resize to make sure I have the flow right | 15:11 |
dansmith | the only reason I don't want the migrate function to delete on error is because I think it's more likely that some non-cells user will run afoul of that and we'll delete something they actually wanted | 15:11 |
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anteaya | mriedem: are you omitted from the -meeting channel on purpose? | 15:13 |
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alaski | dansmith: I think we can ignore the RPC back compat stuff here, that affects everyone cellsv1 or not. For cellsv1 users if there are no flavors in the cell db resize will fail its lookup on flavor_id. | 15:16 |
alaski | so not deleting on error makes sense, and has the side effect of keeping cells resize working | 15:17 |
dansmith | okay cool | 15:17 |
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dansmith | you wanna comment on there for the record? | 15:17 |
alaski | yep | 15:17 |
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alaski | 503 :( | 15:20 |
alaski | oh, restarting | 15:20 |
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moshele | mriedem: hi | 15:22 |
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dansmith | alaski: that black screen when you try to save a comment is.. like the most depressing thing ever | 15:24 |
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moshele | anteaya: lennyb update me with the details of your conversion regarding Mellanox CI I will try to talk to mriedem about this | 15:26 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: post processing doc tree to build REST methods https://review.openstack.org/295486 | 15:26 |
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anteaya | moshele: rather than repeat myself, it is all here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-03-28-15.00.log.txt | 15:26 |
anteaya | 15:06:22 <anteaya> #topic nova ci's missed a regression | 15:27 |
anteaya | moshele: and thanks for taking this up | 15:27 |
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anteaya | moshele: please post to the mailing list after you have composed a reply | 15:27 |
moshele | anteaya: np :) | 15:27 |
anteaya | thank you | 15:27 |
moshele | anteaya: sure | 15:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Belous proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: exercise vif driver 'plug' method in tests https://review.openstack.org/273602 | 15:31 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Belous proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: pass a real instance object into vif plug/unplug methods https://review.openstack.org/273603 | 15:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Belous proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: fix ivs test to use the ivs vif object https://review.openstack.org/273604 | 15:32 |
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mriedem | anteaya: was i supposed to be in a meeting? | 15:35 |
mriedem | anteaya: i was physically at another meeting | 15:35 |
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anteaya | no no no you weren't | 15:36 |
anteaya | I was just going to tab complete you is all | 15:36 |
anteaya | yet I couldn't as you weren't in -meeting | 15:36 |
anteaya | and I just wondered if that was conscious choice or oversight | 15:37 |
dansmith | anyone else seeing a fail of nova.tests.unit.image.test_glance.TestDownloadNoDirectUri.test_download_direct_exception_fallback on py34 only | 15:37 |
dansmith | ? | 15:37 |
dansmith | I see it locally, with a rebuilt tox | 15:38 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Block flavor creation until main database is empty https://review.openstack.org/295310 | 15:38 |
mriedem | anteaya: conscious | 15:39 |
anteaya | mriedem: thank you | 15:39 |
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anteaya | mriedem: I had just been talking with lennyb about the nfv ci mailing list post, encouraging him and co-workers to talk to you and compose a reply to the mailing list | 15:40 |
mriedem | anteaya: ah ok | 15:40 |
anteaya | thanks | 15:40 |
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moshele | mriedem: hi, I am lennyb manager and I wanted to talk to regarding Mellanox CI | 15:41 |
mriedem | moshele: ok | 15:42 |
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moshele | mriedem: so currently we have one one Job in nova that test SR-IOV for Ethernet | 15:42 |
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moshele | mriedem: and the part of the break was in SR-IOV for infiniband which we only run in neutron | 15:43 |
moshele | mriedem: It regarding this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296305/ | 15:44 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Belous proposed openstack/nova: WIP: os-vif: convert libvirt driver to use os-vif library https://review.openstack.org/269672 | 15:44 |
mriedem | moshele: it did run on the change that regressd that though http://144.76.193.39/ci-artifacts/262341/7/Nova-ML2-Sriov/ | 15:45 |
moshele | mriedem: so basicly our nova for SR-IOV which is ethernet only CI should pass this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262341/ | 15:45 |
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moshele | mriedem: yes so regarding Mellanox CI stability | 15:46 |
mriedem | moshele: so are you saying that even if that job wouldn't have failed in the scheduler http://144.76.193.39/ci-artifacts/262341/7/Nova-ML2-Sriov/logs/n-sch.log.gz it wouldn't have caught the regression anyway? | 15:46 |
moshele | mriedem: because only ib_hostdev is using LibvirtConfigGuestHostdevPCI | 15:47 |
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mriedem | ok | 15:48 |
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moshele | mriedem: hw_veb is LibvirtConfigGuestInterface | 15:48 |
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moshele | mriedem: and we focusing in nova only for testing SR-IOV Ethernet because hardware resource problem | 15:49 |
moshele | mriedem: now regarding to the Mellanox CI stability in general | 15:50 |
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mriedem | moshele: so you're trying to get some coverage of both types, but in so doing you only test ethernet in nova and infiniband in neutron | 15:50 |
mriedem | right? | 15:50 |
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moshele | mriedem: yes | 15:51 |
mriedem | ok, i'm with you so far :) | 15:51 |
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moshele | mriedem: the big problem with Mellanox CI is that we run on physical servers and we don't reimage them for every commit | 15:53 |
moshele | mriedem: so some time a commit can break the CI if we don't clean it well after it | 15:54 |
mriedem | sure | 15:54 |
dansmith | moshele: that kindof defeats the purpose of running pre-commit | 15:54 |
moshele | dansmith: we basically removing devstack and all the openstack repository and then deploying again | 15:56 |
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dansmith | moshele: yeah, it just provides the opportunity for residue to color the next run | 15:58 |
moshele | dansmith: so we can have problems with pip installing olded/newer packages which can break thinks, because it is not clean env | 15:58 |
dansmith | moshele: have you thought/tried doing something like a loose container or a chroot that you can build once and deploy from a tarball each time or something? | 15:58 |
dansmith | yeah | 15:58 |
moshele | s/thisks/thinks | 15:59 |
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mriedem | alaski: do you think we'll want back-to-back slots for cells v2 at the design summit? | 16:00 |
mriedem | jaypipes: ^ same question for scheduler, i'm assuming 'yes' for scheduler | 16:00 |
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jaypipes | mriedem: yes | 16:01 |
mriedem | ok | 16:01 |
jaypipes | mriedem: I think that's a good idea. it's worked at the last summits. | 16:02 |
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mriedem | fyi, L251 rough design summit schedule https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-summit-ideas | 16:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Hemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize xenserver options https://review.openstack.org/297838 | 16:02 |
doffm | mriedem: I'm hoping we will have alot of specs to review, but they might be less contentious than the scheduler proposals. | 16:03 |
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moshele | mriedem: we would like to move SR-IOV to virtualized env by using project called smix which can simulate mellanox NIC in qemu and that can improve Mellanox CI , but we are not there yet | 16:04 |
mriedem | moshele: ok | 16:05 |
openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE: patch for testing ironic-tempest-full https://review.openstack.org/297878 | 16:05 |
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mriedem | moshele: so do you know what change caused http://144.76.193.39/ci-artifacts/262341/7/Nova-ML2-Sriov/logs/n-sch.log.gz ? | 16:05 |
mriedem | moshele: intel NFV CI also hit that ^ | 16:05 |
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jaypipes | mriedem: have you responded to my proposal to have hardware for NFV/PCI at a shared lab? | 16:06 |
mriedem | jaypipes: nope | 16:06 |
mriedem | jaypipes: i saw infra's replies | 16:07 |
jaypipes | mriedem: do you think it's something worth pursuing further? or should I drop the idea entirely? | 16:07 |
mriedem | jaypipes: i think it would be ideal, but not sure how easy it's going to be to get owners/funders | 16:07 |
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jaypipes | mriedem: I can make it happen for Intel folks I think. | 16:08 |
jaypipes | if moshele can see about mellanox, that would be good. | 16:09 |
mriedem | in general i think it would be in the best interest of the various NFV CI vendors to pool resources rather than each doing it on their own | 16:09 |
moshele | mriedem: this can be related to old oslo_utils maybe the version that was install was incompatible with the nova code | 16:10 |
mriedem | my immediate concern was understanding where things brokedown in communication that the CI(s) were busted but we were still landing patches that impacted them | 16:10 |
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moshele | mriedem, jaypipes: I will check with my mangers regarding to the shared lab | 16:11 |
mriedem | moshele: can you get the specific details about that in a reply to that mailing list thread? | 16:11 |
mriedem | moshele: because if there was some incompatible version of oslo.utils, we shoud know about that | 16:11 |
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moshele | mriedem: the log is very old 2016-02-16 and I don't know what was the oslo version in that run | 16:15 |
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moshele | mriedem: I will ask lennyb to add log that save the python version for each run | 16:16 |
mriedem | moshele: i do | 16:16 |
mriedem | Downloading oslo.utils-3.5.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl (86kB) | 16:16 |
mriedem | yeah, a pip freeze output log would be nice | 16:16 |
nikhil | mriedem: hi, you got a few mins to sync today? | 16:18 |
mriedem | nikhil: sure | 16:18 |
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nikhil | I wanted to chat on 1) upgrades 2) compat layer contact 3) cross nova-glance session at the summit | 16:19 |
nikhil | mriedem: are we testing Nova with N-1 and N upgrade with Glance? | 16:19 |
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nikhil | as there's still the API proxy and the images layer (may be on both fronts) | 16:20 |
dansmith | alaski: so I just realized: http://logs.openstack.org/10/295310/16/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/311a4cb/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=TRACE | 16:20 |
dansmith | alaski: we won't be able to even run tempest until we run the migration because the flavors never get moved to API | 16:20 |
nikhil | mriedem: or it may be that you want someone to work on that front? | 16:20 |
dansmith | sdague: ^ if we do that in devstack it'll get in the way of us selectively doing it in grenade, but it also means we won't be able to run the new side of grenade anyway | 16:21 |
mriedem | nikhil: sdague can keep me honest here, but nova has 2 upgrade jobs, one is a full upgrade from n-1 to n, and another is a partial upgrade of everything n-1 to everything except n-cpu in n | 16:21 |
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mriedem | nikhil: glance is upgrade from n-1 to n in both cases | 16:21 |
dansmith | mriedem: correct | 16:22 |
mriedem | nikhil: i had penciled in a glance cross-project design summit session for 2:20-3 on thursday at the summit https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-summit-ideas | 16:23 |
mriedem | L277 | 16:23 |
nikhil | mriedem: thanks for the upgrade info. any chance you could point me to that job? | 16:24 |
mriedem | nikhil: gate-grenade-dsvm is full upgrade | 16:24 |
nikhil | mriedem: cool, thanks! | 16:24 |
mriedem | gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode is partial upgrade | 16:24 |
mriedem | where n-cpu remains at n-1 | 16:25 |
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mriedem | nikhil: what were you thinking? keeping glance n-1 or something in an upgrade job? | 16:25 |
nikhil | mriedem: no, I think this looks good. | 16:27 |
nikhil | mriedem: I am just trying to make sure that we've got Glance covered in all cases. | 16:27 |
dansmith | nikhil: glance is already running grenade on its patches right? | 16:28 |
nikhil | dansmith: yeah, it is | 16:28 |
dansmith | nikhil: so the only extra thing we're testing between nova and glance would be the older n-cpu service with newer glance, in the multinode job | 16:29 |
dansmith | but not old glance with new nova, or various other permutations | 16:29 |
dansmith | nikhil: is there some case you were specifically concerned about? or did you just want to make sure you could say "yes we're testing upgrades" to someone? :P | 16:29 |
nikhil | dansmith: ah, yes. and both tbh | 16:30 |
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nikhil | dansmith: so, I think we need to test old glance with new nova and new glance with old nova ! | 16:30 |
nikhil | at least the two cases | 16:30 |
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nikhil | but for now, this is just me trying to be a bit proactive | 16:30 |
nikhil | basically, when we've the new API proposed | 16:31 |
nikhil | just trying to make sure that older deployments don't blow up | 16:31 |
mriedem | nikhil: i think N nova + N-1 glance would be easy to do in the gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode job | 16:31 |
nikhil | someone asked me how is Glance testing upgrades and I realized that we are not holistic | 16:31 |
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mriedem | nikhil: which new API? | 16:32 |
nikhil | the new import call | 16:32 |
mriedem | nikhil: you know we're not using v2 yet right? :) | 16:32 |
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nikhil | mriedem: oh yeah, v2 with the new create call :| | 16:32 |
dansmith | mriedem: maybe we should hold back glance on nova patches and nova on glance patches in the multinode job? | 16:32 |
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mriedem | dansmith: that's what i was thinking | 16:32 |
cfriesen__ | I've been out of the loop for a bit...has any progress been made regarding the various competing scheduler proposals? Or are we having a session at the summit to discuss? | 16:33 |
dansmith | that will mean we lose coverage for new glance and new nova in that job, but we may be okay with the regular grenade job for that then | 16:33 |
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nikhil | dansmith: mriedem: so, the other things that ties up with this is that the Nova v1->v2 change is almost ready and we're wanting it to merge in the early part of cycle. | 16:33 |
mriedem | cfriesen__: n-sch is no longer in tree | 16:34 |
mriedem | surprise | 16:34 |
nikhil | then we are still working on the 1K spec proposal for import, that may merge later in the cycle to be part of defcore. There will be back compat but nice to check it using the upgrades. | 16:34 |
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cfriesen__ | mriedem: nothing moves that fast around here. | 16:35 |
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mriedem | nikhil: so the glance v2 spec has to be re-proposed for newton | 16:36 |
mriedem | that's step 1 | 16:36 |
mriedem | nikhil: mfedosin said he'd work on the re-proposal for the spec | 16:37 |
mriedem | nikhil: as part of that we should mark what's completed in mitaka so we have a clear idea of what still needs to be done | 16:37 |
mriedem | nikhil: and i thought as sdague was helping with some of this, he mentioned that there are some testing gaps (besides upgrade), but i don't remember specifics, i thought it had something to do with the xenapi plugin stuff | 16:38 |
nikhil | yeah, xenapi has testing gaps | 16:38 |
nikhil | :( | 16:38 |
nikhil | but I think Mike covered it as a part of his latest ps (will reconfirm) | 16:39 |
mriedem | i think that might have been part of sdague's concern but would need him to verify | 16:42 |
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nikhil | mriedem: thanks. another thing was that johnthetubaguy has been giving periodic suggestions on the nova.image compat layer effort. I wanted to sync with both of and understand whom should I stay in touch with regarding the same and what's needs to be proposed and where? | 16:44 |
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sdague | nikhil: is there a current game plan up anywhere ? | 16:45 |
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nikhil | sdague: for the compat layer? | 16:45 |
sdague | nikhil: for the whole cut over to v2 | 16:46 |
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nikhil | sdague: the part related to Nova is what Mike covered last cycle. No updates on that as of yet. | 16:46 |
mriedem | nikhil: i'm not sure what the 'nova.image compat layer effort' is | 16:46 |
sdague | nikhil: where is that written down? | 16:46 |
nikhil | sorry, I'd use nicks: Mike == mfedosin | 16:46 |
mriedem | nikhil: is 'nova.image compat layer effort' part of the v2 integration? or something new? | 16:47 |
sdague | because everything was really scatter shot in those patches | 16:47 |
nikhil | sdague: ah, I didn't know. There's nothing new up yet. Let me take that down as an action item. | 16:47 |
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mriedem | well https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/use-glance-v2-api,n,z | 16:48 |
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mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/use-glance-v2-api+status:open | 16:48 |
nikhil | sdague: I've mostly consulted on what the issues were and didn't know the practicing process flaws. | 16:48 |
sdague | nikhil: it wasn't so much a process flaw as a communication flaw | 16:48 |
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nikhil | mriedem: on the compat convo, this was supposed to be the next step from the v2 integration. v1->v2 port is mostly, get rid of v1 and start using v2. compat layer is getting rid of nova.image and putting it in a separate repo.. | 16:49 |
sdague | because you get patches like this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274203 - which seem to just change narrow things, and don't explain the big picture of where that's going | 16:49 |
mriedem | nikhil: i don't think we even want to talk about a compat layer right now | 16:49 |
sdague | nikhil: the last time this was discussed the compat layer was glanceclient | 16:50 |
mriedem | nikhil: given this has been ongoing since kilo, we really need just a narrow focus on what needs to happen for glance v2 integration, and what order | 16:50 |
mriedem | any new glance compat layer stuff is a total distraction right now | 16:50 |
alaski | mriedem: yes to the two cells sessions | 16:50 |
mriedem | alaski: done | 16:51 |
alaski | great | 16:51 |
nikhil | mriedem: ok, I will note that. it has been communicated otherwise (or at least I haven't seen completely explained) | 16:51 |
alaski | dansmith: so that sucks(flavor.create failure), first of all. | 16:52 |
sdague | nikhil: how about we start with a blank page here, because there seems to be a ton of assumptions about what people think is agreed or not. Start writing an etherpad with - here is the bare minimum we need to do | 16:52 |
nikhil | sdague: there's a lot of split between the community on getting it in g-client. Lots of -1s on that approach and there's no rationale I am aware of this approach. I too wanted to catch on why people ended up with g-client. | 16:52 |
sdague | code links to where the problematic parts of nova are | 16:52 |
nikhil | sdague: Blank page it is! Perfect. | 16:53 |
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alaski | dansmith: a couple thoughts: can devstack run the migration? does Tempest rely on the default flavors? Should we just remove the default flavors from the db migration, add documentation on how to add them if deployers need them, and have devstack create default flavors? | 16:53 |
dansmith | alaski: what if we tried to do the full flavor migration on the first flavor create attempt? that should be an admin-only and non-critical-path operation | 16:53 |
sdague | nikhil: right, and explain that one. Because from my perspective glanceclient is *the library provided by the glance team to interact with glance* | 16:53 |
dansmith | alaski: tempest does, yeah, but it depends on being able to create flavors to test that, so if we block it, it fails | 16:53 |
alaski | dansmith: I had that thought too, and thought you would tell me I was crazy | 16:53 |
nikhil | mriedem: sdague: dansmith: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-glance-newton | 16:53 |
dansmith | alaski: well, I dunno | 16:53 |
dansmith | alaski: it's something we could document as "if you don't want to run that migration on the first create, then run the online migrations first" | 16:54 |
dansmith | alaski: we could also add a workarounds flag to disable that behavior I guess | 16:54 |
sdague | nikhil: ok, great. | 16:54 |
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alaski | dansmith: I'm somewhat on board with that though I would like to avoid the workaround flag. I think the proper thing might be to drop default flavor creation from Nova and have devstack populate them | 16:55 |
dansmith | alaski: we can and should, but I also kinda don't want to block finishing this on that, given we're halfway through | 16:55 |
alaski | dansmith: yeah, same here. I can get behind the migrate on create behavior, with a reno or something on it | 16:56 |
dansmith | alaski: so if sdague is cool doing it in devstack before we start, then that's fine with me, and then we can work on getting the flavors out of the main migration and making devstack create them | 16:56 |
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dansmith | alaski: well, let's see what sdague thinks | 16:57 |
sdague | dansmith: what's the thing we need to be cool about? | 16:57 |
dansmith | sdague: so the problem is, we need to avoid creating flavors in the api db until the main db flavors have been migrated | 16:57 |
dansmith | sdague: and since those are created in the first migration, | 16:57 |
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dansmith | devstack jobs run tempest with flavors in the old location and fail the tempest flavor create tests | 16:58 |
dansmith | sdague: so I think the cleanest option is to, at least for now, make devstack run the online migrations before we start up nova | 16:58 |
sdague | what is this going to look like for a completely blank install for people? | 16:58 |
dansmith | sdague: we can do other things that would impact real deployments | 16:58 |
dansmith | sdague: people would have to run that before they can create more than the default flavors | 16:59 |
sdague | my concern with "just work around it in devstack", is what the out of the box for every other package solution is | 16:59 |
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dansmith | sdague: it's the same for other people, because they flavors are created in the original migration | 16:59 |
sdague | could we put an inline db migration for the 5 canned flavors into the normal flow? | 16:59 |
dansmith | s/other/real/ | 16:59 |
dansmith | no | 17:00 |
dansmith | it needs to talk to two databases, which is not a cool thing to do in a db migration for one of them, | 17:00 |
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dansmith | and it's not zero time, even if the above wasn't a total blocker (which it is) | 17:00 |
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dansmith | sdague: the other option is for us to just trigger the migration on the first create after startup, which is fine, but it's heavier and it's really more of a hack to our process than what most people will want I think | 17:01 |
alaski | so I know it's not cool to rewrite db history, but what about removing the addition of the default flavors in migration 216? and start expecting deployers to create those flavors? | 17:01 |
dansmith | alaski: we need to do that, | 17:01 |
dansmith | but we also need to build more things in order to get us back to having flavors again | 17:02 |
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dansmith | i.e. more devstack changes to do the flavor creates and such | 17:02 |
alaski | yeah | 17:02 |
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dansmith | and I just don't want to pause in the middle of this flavor process to go do that flavor process and complicate things a lot | 17:02 |
dansmith | running the online migrations as part of a new setup is kindof the same as running them as part of a migration | 17:03 |
dansmith | we could have other things in the future that behave like this | 17:03 |
sdague | it feel like we're just exporting complexity to ops. Things used to largely just work, now, there is lots of other things that need to be done. :( | 17:03 |
dansmith | sdague: it used to be all done offline though | 17:03 |
sdague | dansmith: sure | 17:04 |
dansmith | sdague: it's also just one command that runs all the pending migrations, | 17:04 |
dansmith | it's not like this is one thing now and another thing later for a different but similar case | 17:04 |
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sdague | that thing you said about handingly it on first request, how about doing that? | 17:05 |
sdague | and if you want to preoptimize you can run the tool up front | 17:05 |
dansmith | we can, it's just that almost no real deployer will want that | 17:05 |
dansmith | yep, that's what I said above | 17:05 |
dansmith | so, that's fine if you want, I just think it's a hack on our process and not very realistic :) | 17:05 |
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sdague | dansmith: that's fine, but we still want people doing department level installs to work | 17:06 |
dansmith | it's what people running single-node clouds on their dev boxes will want, but not really anyone else | 17:06 |
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dansmith | alaski: any more thoughts? | 17:07 |
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jaypipes | edleafe: see latest comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286931/. Your change apparently doesn't work.. | 17:08 |
alaski | doing it on flavor.create is a hack which I would like to avoid. the issue is that we put data in the db in our migrations and it needs to be migrated. asking users to do a data migration after deploy, until we fix this, seems reasonable | 17:08 |
dansmith | alaski: also, on the workaround thing, I was going to say default to doing the migration, and just let them disable that auto behavior if they wanted .. i.e. if they're deploying to a cloud where sub-admins would trigger the migration when they might not want them to | 17:09 |
jaypipes | edleafe: left comment on PS4. | 17:09 |
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alaski | dansmith: yeah, if we go that route I think migrate by default would be the right thing | 17:10 |
dansmith | alaski: basically I feel like if we do the migrate-on-create hack, I'd hate to force other deployers to do the migration offline ahead of time to avoid taking the hit on a create from a sub-admin not paying attention to the upgrade process | 17:10 |
edleafe | jaypipes: ok, will look into that later. No idea where the None is coming from. | 17:11 |
jaypipes | edleafe: I'm fixing it now. | 17:11 |
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alaski | dansmith: that seems a reasonable compromise to me. and once we clean up the 216 migration it can be removed. | 17:13 |
dansmith | alaski: okay | 17:13 |
dansmith | sdague: just to be clear, we're going to have to add flavor creation to devstack when we do that | 17:14 |
sdague | dansmith: could we put that logic back into nova-manage? nova-manage create-default-flavors | 17:15 |
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dansmith | sdague: I don't really think that nova-manage should encode default flavor info any more than the first migration should | 17:15 |
dansmith | sdague: but even if we did, it's still yet another step devstack needs to do | 17:16 |
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sdague | dansmith: sure, but it's at least something which ends up mildly consistent. I get that sticking the flavor data in the default migration is ... odd | 17:16 |
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sdague | but use just saying "oh, yeh, flavors, you need some before anything works" | 17:17 |
sdague | seems fine for large scale infrastructure | 17:17 |
sdague | but another odd hoop to jump through for the smaller folks | 17:17 |
dansmith | yeah, I dunno if I agree with that | 17:17 |
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dansmith | nova-manage doesn't have flavor commands anymore, right? | 17:18 |
dansmith | it's all done via the API now I think | 17:18 |
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sdague | it probably doesn't | 17:18 |
dansmith | yeah | 17:18 |
alaski | I thought there was an idea from a while ago of just documenting some reasonable default flavors for deploys like that | 17:18 |
dansmith | it doesn't | 17:18 |
sdague | alaski: I don't know | 17:18 |
sdague | I just know that for the last 4 years, you install nova, and you have 5 flavors | 17:18 |
dansmith | alaski: right, just "run these flavor-create commands if you don't know yet" right? | 17:19 |
sdague | saying that's not going to be the case is a big change | 17:19 |
alaski | dansmith: exactly | 17:19 |
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dansmith | alaski: yeah, and having devstack run those commands for you seems right to me | 17:19 |
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alaski | sdague: we already expect users to bring images/volumes and other resources. some amount of setup seems reasonable | 17:19 |
dansmith | yeah | 17:19 |
sdague | every additional command we make people do manually does impact initial usability | 17:19 |
dansmith | images are as fundamental to me | 17:19 |
dansmith | sdague: right, but that's what devstack is right? a demonstration of all the steps that is packaged so you can test easily and then set it up for real? | 17:20 |
dansmith | I mean, | 17:20 |
dansmith | anyone doing this beyond devstack is pretty much going to use one of the deploy tools, which is going to do this for you | 17:20 |
dansmith | they might have a template "flavors.yml" or something | 17:20 |
openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Make compute_node_statistics() use new schema https://review.openstack.org/286931 | 17:20 |
dansmith | but if you don't, you get the defaults | 17:20 |
alaski | yeah | 17:20 |
sdague | dansmith: and if it's a thing that nova doesn't have a command for, it will be different in every deploy tool | 17:21 |
sdague | and if that's a thing that is fine with everyone... I guess that's what it is | 17:21 |
dansmith | sdague: the actual flavors? yeah... | 17:21 |
dansmith | the flavors we have now are copies of default amazon flavors from 2010 right? :) | 17:21 |
sdague | part of what is nice with these things being nova, is there are same know defaults | 17:21 |
alaski | sdague: of the clouds infra interacts with how many use the default flavors? | 17:21 |
sdague | alaski: I'm not talking about public clouds | 17:22 |
dansmith | sdague: which means people encode flavor names into tests because they think every cloud has those right? | 17:22 |
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dansmith | I feel like we just had the opposite argument about people encodingthings they believe to be always present | 17:22 |
sdague | dansmith: where do they do that? | 17:22 |
dansmith | with the flavor url | 17:22 |
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dansmith | where does who do what? | 17:23 |
sdague | ok, so I'm clearly in the minority here. It feels like we're adding a bunch more manual to people. If that's the project direction, so be it, we'll put it into devstack | 17:24 |
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alaski | another aspect of this is that flavors should be matched against the hardware in use or you waste space on packing, so precanned defaults seem problematic in that regards as well | 17:24 |
dansmith | none of the default flavors work for my test box, for example | 17:25 |
dansmith | the smallest has no disk and the next one in line has too much disk for me to start more than one test instance | 17:25 |
dansmith | so I always have to create another one | 17:25 |
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dansmith | incidentally, it's called "foo" because I'm very creative | 17:25 |
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mriedem | jlk is picking up what you're putting down at least | 17:27 |
sdague | yeh, I guess I'd feel better about this if we had other parts of the flavor interface tweaked at the same time. | 17:28 |
syjulian | Hi everyone, I'm a developer at AT&T and new to OpenStack. Our team created a blueprint regarding Nova Notification. If anyone has time, we would greatly appreciate any feedback or opinion. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-notification-heat-stack-info :) | 17:29 |
dansmith | sdague: alaski: so for this migrate-on-create hack, | 17:29 |
dansmith | I have to come up with a limit on how many I'm willing to migrate spontaneously, | 17:29 |
sdague | would be nice to have GET /flavors/?min_mem=1G&min_disk=20G&min_cpu=2 | 17:29 |
dansmith | and fail if that's not done | 17:29 |
dansmith | the problem there is, | 17:29 |
dansmith | it will appear to auto-migrate for some people and not others | 17:29 |
dansmith | and will leave it half-migrated for the people it doesn't work for | 17:30 |
dansmith | which seems somewhat uncool | 17:30 |
dansmith | sdague: alaski either of you have an opinion on how people will like that/ | 17:30 |
alaski | yeah, can't really do it half way | 17:30 |
dansmith | well, you can, but it doesn't help, | 17:31 |
dansmith | we'd still have to fail the request | 17:31 |
dansmith | we're just hacking around tempest and devstack at that point, which seems uncool | 17:31 |
alaski | right. s/can't/shouldn't/ | 17:31 |
sdague | ok, so, sorry, I'm not sure if I have the whole context | 17:31 |
sdague | can you walk me through exactly what the failure is here when tempest tries to run? | 17:31 |
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dansmith | sdague: tempest goes to test flavor creation | 17:32 |
sdague | maybe if I get the whole picture in my head, I'll be less daft | 17:32 |
dansmith | sdague: which can't complete until flavors are migrated from main to api | 17:32 |
dansmith | sdague: because we need the integer ids to match up | 17:32 |
dansmith | sdague: so the test fails because the migration isn't done | 17:32 |
dansmith | sdague: which means we can't run the tempest flavor test until we've done that migration | 17:32 |
dansmith | sdague: and you said you would rather me put the migrate-on-create hack in there to avoid just running the command in devstack during setup | 17:32 |
sdague | why are we depending on integer ids lining up? | 17:33 |
alaski | sdague: they're exposed in the api | 17:33 |
sdague | alaski: ... are they actually? | 17:33 |
sdague | I thought it was the thing people assume is an int, but isn't | 17:33 |
dansmith | sdague: but I have to put a limit value in there, which can be extremely large, but will likely timeout on large deploys, or a small value which will not get the whole deal for small ones | 17:33 |
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mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/views/flavors.py#L37 | 17:34 |
dansmith | so it will appear to auto-migrate for some people, but not others | 17:34 |
mriedem | isn't the integer | 17:34 |
alaski | I don't know if it's visible, sorry. but you can reference it when booting, I'm fairly certain | 17:34 |
sdague | alaski: I'm not sure that you can | 17:34 |
dansmith | I think alaski is right | 17:35 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L974 | 17:35 |
nikhil | sdague: I'm almost done with the etherpad on this new __init__ . Just one quick question: do you have any specific concerns on the testing gaps or this is a research item? | 17:36 |
dansmith | alaski: sdague mriedem: this is why flavors on the cells stuff have to be sync'd up so tightly right? | 17:36 |
mriedem | dansmith: i didn't know why the id had to be the same honestly | 17:36 |
alaski | dansmith: right, lookups were happening on id at some point | 17:37 |
mriedem | flavorid should be our entry point since that's what we list | 17:37 |
sdague | the only cross reference is this - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/b5e65b4356f022d999482bfcc35bbf5c8cc42f8d/nova/db/sqlalchemy/models.py#L279 | 17:37 |
sdague | which may be used by some objects | 17:37 |
sdague | but end users never see that | 17:37 |
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dansmith | sdague: resizes and instances maintain internal links to flavors via id too | 17:38 |
sdague | dansmith: ok | 17:38 |
dansmith | sdague: which means if we let the space overlap we end up breaking some things | 17:38 |
dansmith | and I think cells has some cleanup routines when it replays some operations that look up via id | 17:38 |
dansmith | alaski: was that one of them this morning? the rpc compat thing? | 17:38 |
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alaski | there's this objects.Flavor.get_by_id(context, flavor['id']) | 17:39 |
dansmith | we also expose the flavor low-level ids in the migrations api | 17:40 |
sdague | dansmith: ok, so I retract my earlier comment, if this is just part of normal upgrade you have to do, that's fine we can put it in devstack right after the db-sync commands | 17:40 |
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dansmith | sdague: okay | 17:40 |
dansmith | sdague: so if we do the thing you want, which is "nova manage sync-all-my-shit-i-will-wait" then we could do this migrate command in there for people | 17:41 |
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mriedem | gibi: you might want to look at this re: notifications https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-notification-heat-stack-info | 17:41 |
sdague | dansmith: sure | 17:41 |
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sdague | it would be nice to stop having 2 different flavorid fields that confuse everyone :) | 17:42 |
sdague | and one is used half the places, and the other is used the other half the places | 17:42 |
dansmith | sdague: no dude, it's flavor.id and flavor_id.. not confusing at all, come on! | 17:42 |
mriedem | yeah, was just going to say that, ha | 17:42 |
mriedem | flavor_id != flavorid | 17:42 |
mriedem | duh! | 17:42 |
dansmith | heh | 17:42 |
dansmith | did I mention I hate the flavor code yet this week? | 17:42 |
mriedem | dansmith: pays the bills | 17:43 |
dansmith | sho' nuf | 17:43 |
mriedem | if you're feeling down, just crank this up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrle0x_DHBM | 17:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/nova: List system dependencies for running common tests https://review.openstack.org/200672 | 17:48 |
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doffm | ccarmack: About https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297977/4. What is going to happen for the other quota drivers? | 17:51 |
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mriedem | gross, someone heated up what smells like tuna in the office | 17:52 |
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doffm | Mmmmmm hot tuna. | 17:52 |
mriedem | was it you? | 17:52 |
jroll | reason number 245768 not to work in an office | 17:53 |
dansmith | sdague: depends-on won't work between nova and devstack, right/ | 17:54 |
ccarmack | doffm: are there other quota drivers out of tree? | 17:54 |
jroll | dansmith: it should | 17:54 |
dansmith | jroll: oh, cool | 17:54 |
mriedem | yes it does | 17:54 |
ccarmack | I had a similiar question for the db interface, doffm | 17:54 |
jroll | dansmith: with clients/libs it doesn't work because they're installed from pypi | 17:55 |
mriedem | or project-config | 17:55 |
dansmith | okay | 17:55 |
jroll | ya | 17:55 |
dansmith | sweet | 17:55 |
ccarmack | mriedem: If I add an API to quota.py QuotaEngine, does that mean all the out tree quota drivers have to support it? | 17:55 |
mriedem | ccarmack: out of tree quota driveres? | 17:55 |
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mriedem | ccarmack: but no | 17:56 |
jroll | mriedem: with zuulv3 we get project-config dependency-ability | 17:56 |
jroll | \o/ | 17:56 |
mriedem | ccarmack: we have a virt api that's unversioned | 17:56 |
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ccarmack | mriedem: it seems like both the QuotaEngine and the DB layer API when meant to be pluggable | 17:57 |
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ccarmack | *were | 17:57 |
mriedem | ccarmack: not once sdague is done burning all of those bridges :) | 17:58 |
ccarmack | mriedem: burning bridges? explain please | 17:58 |
mriedem | ccarmack: deprecating plug points | 17:58 |
mriedem | e.g. compute manager, network api, etc | 17:58 |
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mriedem | several things like that were deprecated in mitaka | 17:59 |
ccarmack | mriedem: so we won't have any compatibility requirements except for the public nova api? | 18:00 |
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mriedem | ccarmack: we don't have any compat requirements for unversioned apis | 18:00 |
mriedem | we try not to break things | 18:00 |
openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add console log offset https://review.openstack.org/292473 | 18:00 |
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doffm | ccarmack: It shouldn't break any other quota drivers. | 18:01 |
mriedem | like before notifications were versioned | 18:01 |
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mriedem | we wouldn't drop things or rename keys in the notification payload | 18:01 |
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dansmith | every time bashate finds something in my change I lose a little self esteem | 18:02 |
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ccarmack | doffm, mriedem: ok, doffm raised the question about my additions to the quota and db api for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297977/4 | 18:03 |
mriedem | yikes | 18:03 |
mriedem | ccarmack: does that change need to be 500+ LOC? | 18:03 |
openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add console log offset https://review.openstack.org/292473 | 18:04 |
ccarmack | mriedem: I think so, a lot of that are tests | 18:04 |
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ccarmack | 200+ are tests, 100+ is the sqlalchemy/api.py refactor | 18:05 |
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doffm | ccarmack: I don't think your change would break other quota drivers, so I wasn't really worried. Just wanted to know what the position was. | 18:05 |
doffm | The quota driver is still pluggable. | 18:05 |
ccarmack | doffm: ok | 18:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Block flavor creation until main database is empty https://review.openstack.org/295310 | 18:06 |
mriedem | there are only 2 in tree quota drivers, db (default) and noop | 18:06 |
mriedem | the db quota driver uses the nova.db.api | 18:06 |
mriedem | noop doesn't do jack | 18:06 |
mriedem | there are no changes to the quota drivers 'interface' here so i don't see a problem with that | 18:07 |
ccarmack | mriedem: only additions | 18:07 |
mriedem | the db api refactor scares me a bit, but just requires close review | 18:07 |
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mriedem | technically this could be 2 changes, | 18:07 |
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mriedem | 1. refactor db api to pull out common code | 18:07 |
mriedem | 2. add the cli | 18:07 |
doffm | The db api changes are mostly a function split of existing code. | 18:08 |
mriedem | ccarmack: like, you don't have any tests for your new cli | 18:08 |
mriedem | oh god nevermind i missed this in the quota driver https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297977/4/nova/quota.py | 18:09 |
ccarmack | mriedem: I have tests for the quotas API called by the CLI, but you are right. Of course, the manage CLI has no existing tests I could find | 18:09 |
ccarmack | well, it had one... | 18:09 |
mriedem | ccarmack: nova.tests.test_nova_manage | 18:09 |
doffm | The manage cli has tests. | 18:09 |
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ccarmack | Is that the test with only 1 test? | 18:10 |
mriedem | nope | 18:10 |
doffm | ccarmack: There are two. | 18:10 |
mriedem | ccarmack: why even change the quota driver? | 18:10 |
mriedem | nova-manage has direct access to the db api | 18:10 |
mriedem | the nova-manage command doesn't care about the noop quota driver | 18:11 |
doffm | ccarmack: The one with one test is nova.tests.cmd.test_manage. Thats a mistake, it should probably be merged with nova.tests.test_nova_manage | 18:11 |
doffm | Least I think its a mistake. | 18:11 |
ccarmack | mriedem: other commands call quota | 18:11 |
mriedem | doffm: not really | 18:11 |
ccarmack | and sometimes they call db directly | 18:12 |
mriedem | ccarmack: like ProjectCommands i guess | 18:12 |
ccarmack | mriedem: also, the db doesn't know which quotas are syncable | 18:12 |
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mriedem | ccarmack: you mean the PER_PROJECT_QUOTAS? | 18:12 |
ccarmack | its a mess | 18:13 |
openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add console log offset https://review.openstack.org/292473 | 18:13 |
mriedem | ya... | 18:13 |
ccarmack | quotas has those "resources" with syncable attribute… while db has the QUOTA_SYNC_FUNCS | 18:13 |
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ccarmack | but QUOTA_SYNC_FUNCS is not a list of syncable quotas, its is a lookup from resource name to sync func | 18:14 |
mriedem | alright | 18:15 |
mriedem | ccarmack: but can you split this into 3 changes? | 18:15 |
mriedem | 1. db api refactor, 2. quotas driver, 3. nova-manage cli | 18:15 |
ccarmack | mriedem: why? | 18:15 |
mriedem | ccarmack: because i don't want to review 500 LOC | 18:16 |
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dansmith | ccarmack: yeah | 18:16 |
ccarmack | mriedem: its a spec implementation | 18:16 |
dansmith | ccarmack: please | 18:16 |
ccarmack | 500 is not alot | 18:16 |
mriedem | ccarmack: oh boy | 18:16 |
ccarmack | ok | 18:16 |
mriedem | ccarmack: it is | 18:16 |
mriedem | patches should be split into logical chunks when possible | 18:16 |
ccarmack | I disagree that 500 is a lot for a new feature, especially if 200 is test | 18:17 |
ccarmack | but anyway, ok | 18:17 |
mriedem | but you don't have tests for the cli | 18:17 |
ccarmack | yup | 18:17 |
mriedem | which someone might not notice because they are glazing over from the other 500 LOC | 18:17 |
ccarmack | I'll add those | 18:17 |
mriedem | when you split it up, we can make sure everything is cool in each change | 18:17 |
mriedem | see my masterful series starting here for get-me-a-network https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297870/ | 18:17 |
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ccarmack | mriedem: ok, I'll split it into 3 | 18:18 |
mriedem | ccarmack: plan on me razzing you about this in person for at least a week | 18:18 |
ccarmack | mriedem: we are collaborators, not razzers | 18:19 |
mriedem | ccarmack: ok, so doffm and i will gang up on you then :P | 18:19 |
ccarmack | you are a tough ptl, mriedem | 18:20 |
ccarmack | by the book | 18:20 |
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ccarmack | tight ship | 18:20 |
ccarmack | dotted i's and t's | 18:20 |
mriedem | don't forget lower-case j's | 18:20 |
ccarmack | wait, we don't dot t's | 18:21 |
mriedem | they might in germany, idk | 18:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot https://review.openstack.org/263925 | 18:24 |
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mriedem | jaypipes: are you on a plane still?" | 18:29 |
jaypipes | mriedem: leaving now for the plane.. :( | 18:29 |
jaypipes | mriedem: hit me on email? | 18:29 |
mriedem | sure | 18:30 |
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mriedem | just reply to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297871/1/nova/objects/network_request.py when you get a chance | 18:30 |
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jaypipes | will do. ciao. | 18:30 |
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mriedem | Column('consumer_id', String(36), nullable=False), | 18:49 |
mriedem | consumer_id VARCHAR(64) NOT NULL, | 18:49 |
mriedem | i guess the data model doesn't match the spec for the allocations table huh | 18:49 |
mriedem | we must have decided to not bake in future requirements until those are actually needed | 18:50 |
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mriedem | huh, we have a bug | 18:52 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9bc935d7d059c5ad9ff563b373691c3134e8f3ac/nova/db/sqlalchemy/models.py#L1503-L1505 | 18:52 |
mriedem | allocations_resource_provider_class_used_idx has the used column in it, like the spec | 18:52 |
mriedem | the db migration doesn't https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9bc935d7d059c5ad9ff563b373691c3134e8f3ac/nova/db/sqlalchemy/migrate_repo/versions/314_add_resource_provider_tables.py#L71 | 18:53 |
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mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1563006 | 18:56 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1563006 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "db: 'allocations' table migration and model have conflicting indexes" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:56 |
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mriedem | alaski: what's the best way to fix an index in a db migration? add the new index and then drop the old one? | 18:57 |
dansmith | mriedem: we're holding off on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282442/ until after summit, right/ | 18:58 |
mriedem | dansmith: nope | 18:58 |
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mriedem | which is why i'm looking at this | 18:58 |
dansmith | mriedem: okay, I thought we were | 18:58 |
mriedem | dansmith: that was the last thing left in the resource-providers blueprint | 18:58 |
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dansmith | mriedem: okay, but it doesn't make any sense without the inventory stuff merged | 18:59 |
mriedem | dansmith: from reading the spec, which is maybe dangerous, the resource-providers blueprint just creates the 3 tables and the objects for them, | 19:00 |
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mriedem | using them to populate the tables comes later | 19:00 |
mriedem | with resource-providers-allocations | 19:00 |
dansmith | I don't know why we have a spec for "add things we don't use" | 19:00 |
dansmith | heh, okay whatever | 19:00 |
alaski | mriedem: I'm not aware of any other way to do it | 19:00 |
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mriedem | dansmith: idk, i assumed this was just building blocks | 19:01 |
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mriedem | it's just a patch to add objects, i think it should be able to get merged this week | 19:01 |
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dansmith | mriedem: I mean that stack of things | 19:02 |
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mriedem | the next thing in that stack is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281945/ which is marked for generic-resource-pools, which we said we wouldn't do before the summit | 19:03 |
dansmith | mriedem: right, so, I really don't think we should land those objects until we have code that even shows they're right | 19:04 |
dansmith | mriedem: I literally just carved them out of an earlier patch of someone else's to avoid landing them until we had any idea if they were right | 19:04 |
dansmith | mriedem: do you know of any code that uses them at all? | 19:05 |
mriedem | i don't, | 19:05 |
mriedem | the inventory stuff is supposed to right? | 19:05 |
dansmith | no | 19:05 |
mriedem | whatever is in resource-providers-allocations | 19:05 |
dansmith | yeah, I know we have lots of specs up, but I haven't seen code to use these allocation objects yet :) | 19:05 |
mriedem | dansmith: feel free to WIP that one until something is up and using it | 19:06 |
dansmith | inventory is about compute nodes, allocations are about instances | 19:06 |
mriedem | and i'll gladly move on with my time :) | 19:06 |
dansmith | and I've seen no work on that | 19:06 |
dansmith | okay | 19:06 |
cfriesen__ | dansmith: doesn't this use them? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271823/3 | 19:06 |
mriedem | cfriesen__: tha's a spec | 19:06 |
mriedem | not code | 19:06 |
cfriesen__ | okay, fair enough | 19:06 |
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dansmith | lol | 19:07 |
mriedem | anyway, i'll push a patch to fix this index anyway since it's clearly wrong | 19:07 |
mriedem | and let jay look at it when he lands | 19:07 |
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nikhil | mriedem: thanks for your question on the ethepad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-glance-newton line 35. Feel free to glance it over, whenever :) | 19:13 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Migrate compute node resource information to Inventory objects https://review.openstack.org/279313 | 19:13 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add Service.get_minimum_version_multi() for multiple binaries https://review.openstack.org/279312 | 19:13 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make compute_node_statistics() use new schema https://review.openstack.org/286931 | 19:13 |
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dansmith | alaski: woot, the block migration patch passed normal the tempest/devstack job with the pre-migration | 19:44 |
alaski | dansmith: awesome | 19:45 |
dansmith | gotta fix up a functional thing and then I think we're about ready to get out the nails for this coffin | 19:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Tracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "guestfs" https://review.openstack.org/248963 | 19:52 |
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nikhil | mriedem: sdague: dansmith: Thank you for your input today! | 19:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Block flavor creation until main database is empty https://review.openstack.org/295310 | 19:58 |
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mriedem | nikhil: sure, np, thanks for focusing on this | 20:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/nova: List system dependencies for running common tests https://review.openstack.org/200672 | 20:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Fix allocations resource provider class used index https://review.openstack.org/298423 | 20:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add manage command for cell0. https://review.openstack.org/275266 | 20:21 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Map instances to cell0 on failed schedule https://review.openstack.org/267827 | 20:21 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Manage db sync command for cell0 https://review.openstack.org/274885 | 20:21 |
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mriedem | alaski: went through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263925/ - some questions inline | 20:47 |
alaski | mriedem: most of that is a result of adding in the previous change which made cell_id an internal detail of the object and added cell_mapping and me not updating to reflect that | 20:50 |
alaski | I'll fix that all up | 20:50 |
mriedem | alaski: ok, i figured | 20:50 |
alaski | the mock call things I'm not sure what to do with | 20:50 |
mriedem | alaski: i'm testing those out locally | 20:50 |
alaski | those are the calls I see, though I agree it's really weird | 20:51 |
mriedem | like, i'm commenting out inst_mapping.destroy() in the host mapping not found case to see if the tests handle that | 20:51 |
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alaski | because that method is called in a loop (get_by_instance_uuid) I couldn't get at the returned mocks directly. maybe I could try using side_effect and pass mocks in | 20:55 |
mriedem | you can use side_effect to pass the iterator of results | 20:56 |
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mriedem | which would be mocks...or a single mock that you assert destroy() is called on twice | 20:57 |
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mriedem | yeah, something is up, because this passes http://paste.openstack.org/show/492161/ | 20:57 |
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alaski | hmm. I'll fix up the other stuff and then mess with that | 20:59 |
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mriedem | ok, i'll see if i can clean up the test after the stable team meeting | 21:00 |
mriedem | won't push it up, just a paste if i get it working | 21:00 |
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mriedem | alaski: like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/492164/ | 21:08 |
alaski | mriedem: thanks | 21:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot https://review.openstack.org/263925 | 21:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Chuck Carmack proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Change the nova tempest blacklist to use to idempotent ids https://review.openstack.org/298437 | 21:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Use ovo in test_obj_make_compatible() https://review.openstack.org/272299 | 21:28 |
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mriedem | alaski: soo close https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263925/ | 21:42 |
mriedem | alaski: can you touch up that last test in conductor too for the mocks? then i'm +2 | 21:42 |
alaski | dangit | 21:43 |
alaski | yeah | 21:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Remove DictCompat from ComputeNode https://review.openstack.org/265521 | 22:01 |
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dansmith | alaski: http://logs.openstack.org/10/295310/19/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/35ab35d/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-03-28_20_30_38_058 | 22:02 |
dansmith | tempest is creating flavors | 22:02 |
dansmith | well, I guess that's devstack lib/tempest actually | 22:02 |
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dansmith | alaski: heh, because the default flavors aren't useful for us either :D | 22:03 |
alaski | :) | 22:03 |
dansmith | I dunno why that fails on that postgres job and not any others | 22:04 |
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alaski | that flavor isn't shown in flavor-list | 22:05 |
alaski | could there be a race somehow? | 22:05 |
dansmith | because it's creating it and fails after the list | 22:05 |
alaski | yeah, but the failure says it exists even though it's not listed | 22:06 |
dansmith | right | 22:06 |
dansmith | so the code I copied from db_api assumes that it's a flavor name conflict if it's not an id conflict | 22:08 |
alaski | ahh | 22:08 |
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dansmith | but no projects or extra specs at that point, so I'm not sure what else it couldbe | 22:09 |
dansmith | oh | 22:09 |
dansmith | but this is postgres | 22:09 |
dansmith | so maybe it's interpreting the UC differently somehow? | 22:09 |
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alaski | could be I guess. It's only on name and flavorid | 22:11 |
dansmith | I guess I need a canary on top to dump out the exception and see | 22:11 |
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alaski | flavorid doesn't seem to be specified, so maybe something in the way that's generated? | 22:11 |
alaski | or is that the 42 | 22:12 |
melwitt | I think 42 is the flavorid | 22:12 |
alaski | okay | 22:12 |
dansmith | yeah the 32 | 22:12 |
dansmith | 43 | 22:12 |
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dansmith | *42 | 22:12 |
alaski | I almost spit out my water there | 22:13 |
melwitt | lol | 22:13 |
dansmith | heh | 22:13 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary to sniff out what postgres' problem is https://review.openstack.org/298452 | 22:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot https://review.openstack.org/263925 | 22:33 |
openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add additional attributes to BuildRequest https://review.openstack.org/298455 | 22:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcellin Fom Tchassem proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup the exception LiveMigrationWithOldNovaNotSafe https://review.openstack.org/298470 | 23:51 |
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