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mriedem | nikhil: can you and/or mfedosin (or you poking him) reply to the comments in the glance v2 spec this week please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301741/ sdague also has an addendum on top of that | 00:07 |
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yonglihe | moshele, pci ci is rebasing it's test cases, and will add back more test cases soon. the resize testing also in the plan: given test result but not comment -1 based on that. so, who work on pci resize could refer the testing result. | 00:57 |
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diana_clarke | Ignoring the fact that the memcached_servers option is deprecated, is this how I would go about setting it in local.conf (using DevStack)? http://paste.openstack.org/raw/494721/ | 01:28 |
diana_clarke | (asking because that's not working for me) | 01:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Fix sample path for aggregate, certificate, console https://review.openstack.org/308104 | 01:37 |
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diana_clarke | By not working, I mean CONF.memcached_servers isn't set. I can manually muck with the code and set it myself, but I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong wrt conf & devstack. | 01:39 |
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openstackgerrit | bailin.zhang proposed openstack/nova: Create VM failed, unplug vifs https://review.openstack.org/306219 | 01:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Fix sample file path for fixed, floating ips API https://review.openstack.org/308109 | 02:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Fix the parameters for os-agents API https://review.openstack.org/307793 | 02:10 |
openstackgerrit | xiexs proposed openstack/nova-specs: Make API errors conform to API-WG schema https://review.openstack.org/307675 | 02:11 |
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openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Message queue connection switching for cells https://review.openstack.org/298551 | 02:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Fix sample file path for os-i* API https://review.openstack.org/308114 | 02:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add check of capabilities for detach interface and fix support matrix https://review.openstack.org/308115 | 02:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Task states improvement https://review.openstack.org/216578 | 02:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Fix content and sample file for keypair, migration, networks https://review.openstack.org/308119 | 03:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from unit/api/openstack/compute/test_block_device_mapping.py https://review.openstack.org/308120 | 03:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova: Create image for suspended instance booted from volume https://review.openstack.org/223382 | 03:20 |
openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix Resource.__eq__ mismatch semantics of object equal https://review.openstack.org/251020 | 03:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Lianhao Lu proposed openstack/nova: Added nova-manage cmd to list compute node metrics https://review.openstack.org/268928 | 03:33 |
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openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova: Add message queue switching through RequestContext https://review.openstack.org/274955 | 04:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add check of capabilities for detach interface and fix support matrix https://review.openstack.org/308115 | 06:22 |
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bauzas | good morning Nova | 06:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_quotas https://review.openstack.org/307141 | 06:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Fix sample file path for 4 files https://review.openstack.org/308150 | 06:34 |
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openstackgerrit | bailin.zhang proposed openstack/nova: Reset dns_name of ports when delete the VM https://review.openstack.org/291669 | 06:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_compute_node https://review.openstack.org/307625 | 06:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_pci_device https://review.openstack.org/307615 | 06:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Srushti Gadadare proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid uuid warnings in server-group unit tests https://review.openstack.org/293840 | 06:47 |
openstackgerrit | Srushti Gadadare proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid uuid warnings in objects testcases https://review.openstack.org/301650 | 06:47 |
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openstackgerrit | lyanchih proposed openstack/nova: libvirt - Flavor's quota instance resource not observed for non-ephemeral storage https://review.openstack.org/201019 | 06:52 |
openstackgerrit | bailin.zhang proposed openstack/nova: Reset dns_name of ports when delete the VM https://review.openstack.org/291669 | 06:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Stop using mox stubs in test_admin_password.py https://review.openstack.org/308155 | 06:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Stop using mox stubs in test_access_ips.py https://review.openstack.org/308158 | 07:08 |
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openstackgerrit | lyanchih proposed openstack/nova: libvirt - Add log if libguestfs can't read host kernel https://review.openstack.org/237547 | 07:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Stop using mox stubs in test_admin_actions.py https://review.openstack.org/308170 | 07:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox used in tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_server_start_stop https://review.openstack.org/306232 | 07:30 |
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oanson | Hello | 07:44 |
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oanson | Would adding the tenant-id to the external_ids of the Interface in the OVS DB be acceptable? | 07:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/307131 | 07:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add check of capabilities for detach interface and fix support matrix https://review.openstack.org/308115 | 07:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Fix all remaining sample file path https://review.openstack.org/308180 | 07:58 |
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openstackgerrit | xiexs proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add multi sort keys and directions support https://review.openstack.org/284114 | 08:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 08:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Remove duplicate api ref for os-networks/actions https://review.openstack.org/308187 | 08:16 |
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gmann | alex_xu: you know where Sean checks the warning for wring sample file in api-ref ? | 08:27 |
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gmann | alex_xu: hope no more remaining once all patches gets land | 08:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Permit Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/308198 | 08:32 |
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alex_xu | gmann: I'm not sure how Sean checks, but have you try to add -w flag to the sphnix-build | 08:33 |
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alex_xu | gmann: i can get warnning by execute sphnix-build with -w flag manully | 08:33 |
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kashyap | bauzas: Hey, that's with yesterday's DevStack -- http://paste.openstack.org/show/494739/ | 08:41 |
kashyap | bauzas: Any hints as to why that occurs? I know it's one of Nova's favourite error messages... | 08:41 |
kashyap | (Of course, I have two hypervisors enabled, up & running.) | 08:42 |
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johnthetubaguy | kashyap: I always check the clock is set correctly on the two boxes | 08:45 |
* kashyap checks the clock | 08:46 | |
johnthetubaguy | kashyap: if you look further back in the scheduler logs, it should give more hints on why the hosts were excluded | 08:46 |
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kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Clocks are in sync. I don't see any hints in scheduler logs, not even an error message actually. The error I see is only from the n-cond.log | 08:48 |
gmann | alex_xu: Thanks. getting that with tox -eapi-ref | 08:48 |
gmann | need to check once all patch gets merged | 08:48 |
kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Let me sift through the log carefully to see if I can find a hint | 08:48 |
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alex_xu | gmann: np, cool | 08:49 |
johnthetubaguy | kashyap: thats odd, if you look at the request-id in the conductor log, you should be able to trace that back to the scheduler logs | 08:49 |
johnthetubaguy | I guess I am assuming you are running with debug logs | 08:49 |
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kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Yes, debug is enabled by default in DevStack | 08:50 |
johnthetubaguy | ack | 08:50 |
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kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Ah, RAM overcommit, it seems like :-( | 08:51 |
kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Thanks. (/me just getting back after a 2-ish week hiatus.) | 08:51 |
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johnthetubaguy | kashyap: no problem, I had last week off too, still working out which way is up | 08:55 |
kashyap | Heh | 08:55 |
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johnthetubaguy | kashyap: I am glad the new debug logs we added are starting to make sense though, thats good news :) | 08:55 |
kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Yeah, I skipped over the useful messages it they were all in green, but I was disregarding the term 'DEBUG' there. :-) | 08:56 |
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kashyap | s/it they/as they/ | 08:56 |
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johnthetubaguy | kashyap: ah, doh! | 08:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Srushti Gadadare proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid uuid warnings https://review.openstack.org/302658 | 09:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/compute/test_host_api.py https://review.openstack.org/308213 | 09:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Roey Chen proposed openstack/nova: network: Fix nova boot with multiple security-groups https://review.openstack.org/307850 | 09:15 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add ResourcePool and ResourcePoolList objects https://review.openstack.org/284963 | 09:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-pools/placement api https://review.openstack.org/293104 | 09:16 |
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cdent | p!spy 1 | 09:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Abhilash Goyal proposed openstack/nova: Case-sensitive neutron security groups https://review.openstack.org/302095 | 09:28 |
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pav0 | Hello, could someone review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286443/ ? | 09:34 |
openstackgerrit | Abhilash Goyal proposed openstack/nova: Case-sensitive neutron security groups https://review.openstack.org/302095 | 09:35 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Fix os-server-groups.inc https://review.openstack.org/307052 | 09:42 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Update 'os-hypervisors.inc' in api-ref https://review.openstack.org/307137 | 09:55 |
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bauzas | kashyap: sorry, had some internet trouble | 09:57 |
kashyap | bauzas: No worries; it was a memory overcommit issue. | 09:57 |
bauzas | okay | 09:57 |
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tbachman | p!spy | 09:58 |
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kashyap | bauzas: To artificially test `nova evacuate`, I could kill the n-cpu service on Compute node1, I guess? Or is there a less invasive way? | 10:02 |
bauzas | kashyap: well, that depends on what you want to test | 10:02 |
bauzas | kashyap: given that you know that it will take time to get notice of a n-cpu down | 10:03 |
bauzas | unless you force-down it | 10:03 |
kashyap | bauzas: A simple: `nova evacuate vm1 devstack2` (without shared storage) | 10:03 |
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bauzas | kashyap: ah | 10:04 |
bauzas | kashyap: here is what you need to fake https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/servicegroup/drivers/db.py#L56-L82 | 10:05 |
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bauzas | kashyap: but I'd suggest to force-down the service | 10:05 |
kashyap | bauzas: Yeah, will just `kill -9` the n-cpu process. | 10:06 |
bauzas | kashyap: nope | 10:06 |
bauzas | kashyap: using the force-down API, sec | 10:06 |
kashyap | Ah, the `nova service-force-down` | 10:06 |
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bauzas | kashyap: yup | 10:09 |
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kashyap | Thanks, that's clearly more graceful. | 10:10 |
openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 10:10 |
bauzas | kashyap: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/servicegroup/api.py#L85-L86 | 10:10 |
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openstackgerrit | lyanchih proposed openstack/nova: libvirt - Unrescue will not remove rescue disk when image_type=rbd https://review.openstack.org/205766 | 10:12 |
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kashyap | bauzas: Thanks. Okay, from a quick test, does this make sense? -- http://paste.openstack.org/show/494763/ | 10:13 |
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bauzas | kashyap: I think it's not related to the force-down call or the fact that the service could be up | 10:14 |
bauzas | kashyap: because if not, you would synchronisouly get an exception and an HTTP return code like 40x | 10:14 |
kashyap | bauzas: The nova-compute process is still runnning, though. | 10:15 |
bauzas | kashyap: confirmed, you would get a 401 when trying to evacuate an already running service | 10:15 |
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bauzas | kashyap: here, the call to evacuate works fine | 10:16 |
frickler | does nova-consoleauth get tested in the gate? or any other service configured to use memcached? I'd like to check some things related to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1572062 | 10:16 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1572062 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-consoleauth doesn't play well with memcached" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Dr. Jens Rosenboom (j-rosenboom-j) | 10:16 |
bauzas | kashyap: so I'd take a look at the logs, from the api down to the source compute | 10:16 |
bauzas | and then see a trace | 10:16 |
kashyap | bauzas: Yeah, looking at that. | 10:16 |
openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in test_certificates.py https://review.openstack.org/308244 | 10:16 |
bauzas | kashyap: what says nova show ? | 10:17 |
bauzas | kashyap: you should get a trace | 10:17 |
bauzas | (if you're admin) | 10:17 |
kashyap | bauzas: Indeed, there's a trace. (Yes, I'm an admin.) | 10:17 |
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gibi | ddd~. | 10:18 |
kashyap | bauzas: Found the sucker...Seems like I'm missing the 'iptables' rule: 'sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 9292 -j ACCEPT' | 10:19 |
gibi | sorry wrong window | 10:19 |
kashyap | EHOSTUNREACH: "Exception during message handling: Connection to glance host http://controller-node:9292" | 10:20 |
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bauzas | gibi: I was hoping it was an hungrian phrase :) | 10:21 |
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bauzas | kashyap: oh | 10:21 |
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gibi | bauzas: ahh, those are longer :) | 10:21 |
bauzas | kashyap: fedora, right? | 10:21 |
kashyap | bauzas: Yes | 10:21 |
bauzas | ok, a firewalld rule... | 10:22 |
kashyap | Yeah, on reboot they got reset, sigh. | 10:23 |
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tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: hey, are you around? want to discuss futher live_migration_monitor improvements | 10:28 |
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bauzas | kashyap: eh, pssst, --persistent ;) | 10:32 |
kashyap | Yeah... | 10:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Sharat Sharma proposed openstack/nova: Added user_id to check if admin https://review.openstack.org/307648 | 10:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Prevent nova-api from dying if enabled_apis is wrong https://review.openstack.org/308264 | 10:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova: Fix race for compute node create record, on compute-start https://review.openstack.org/304415 | 11:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Move notification objects to a separate package https://review.openstack.org/305294 | 11:07 |
openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Move notification related code to separate package https://review.openstack.org/305058 | 11:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Don't override _update_from_compute_node https://review.openstack.org/308279 | 11:29 |
openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add validations for volume_size and destination_type https://review.openstack.org/258788 | 11:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Console log offset argument https://review.openstack.org/292479 | 11:40 |
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kashyap | bauzas: (Or anyone familiar with instance evacuation internals), can you see if this behavior is accurate? -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1562681/comments/6 | 11:44 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1562681 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "instance evacuate without image's metadata" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to guo.lei (403554373-w) | 11:44 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: change host to host_migration https://review.openstack.org/308288 | 11:55 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: modify duplicate // to / in doc https://review.openstack.org/308299 | 12:16 |
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bauzas | kashyap: AFAIR, evacuate is an instance rebuild | 12:19 |
kashyap | bauzas: Yes, that's right. | 12:19 |
bauzas | kashyap: I mean, it's just trying again to boot an image | 12:19 |
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kashyap | Yeah, but the bug report above claims that post-evacuate, instance metadata vanishes | 12:20 |
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stacker | devstack is hanging when i set MYSQL_HOST to a mariadb instance on another server | 12:22 |
stacker | the repeatable hang is here: openstack flavor list | 12:22 |
stacker | i have ssh'd into the vm and done this: openstack --debug flavor list | 12:22 |
stacker | then, after it has hung i hit ctrl-c and get the python traceback which i posted (along with my local.conf) here: http://pastebin.com/cAhKZYF6 | 12:22 |
stacker | i am running this in Fedora 23 | 12:22 |
stacker | any help would be awes | 12:22 |
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bauzas | kashyap: sure, I'm trying to understand why | 12:23 |
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kashyap | bauzas: It doesn't vanish as per my test with yesterday's Git -- refer comment#6. Probably dansmith [context: evacuate: LP#1562681) will have more comments when he's around I guess. | 12:24 |
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bauzas | kashyap: oh I see, that's much understandable | 12:25 |
bauzas | kashyap: that said, the reporter did that with shared storagre | 12:26 |
bauzas | kashyap: which is a totally different path I guess | 12:26 |
kashyap | bauzas: Yes, they did with shared storage, and my test was without shared storage. | 12:26 |
bauzas | so we can't conclude | 12:27 |
bauzas | because that means the rebuild is done using the same disk | 12:28 |
bauzas | kashyap: wait... | 12:33 |
bauzas | kashyap: just reading the compute manager code | 12:33 |
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bauzas | kashyap: when rebuilding, given libvirt doesn't provide its own rebuild method, it falls back to the default rebuild method which is basically destroy/spawn, right? | 12:35 |
kashyap | bauzas: Also, check this patch on that bug - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/250176254/liberty.txt | 12:35 |
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bauzas | kashyap: yeah, that's what I'm thinking | 12:36 |
kashyap | bauzas: Yes, there's no rebuild method as such from libvirt. | 12:36 |
bauzas | sec | 12:36 |
bauzas | kashyap: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L2878-L2884 | 12:37 |
bauzas | and https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L2886-L2890 | 12:37 |
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bauzas | which means that we create an ImageMeta object from {} if there is a shared storage | 12:38 |
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bauzas | kashyap: instead of getting the original image metadataz | 12:38 |
bauzas | kashyap: I think the above is the problem | 12:39 |
bauzas | kashyap: which is why it works in your case with no shared storage compared to the bug reporter | 12:39 |
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kashyap | bauzas: Ah, I see. Would appreciate if you too can you make a comment in the upstream bug. | 12:40 |
bauzas | kashyap: just updating it | 12:40 |
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sdague | jichen: can you fix this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307052/ | 12:41 |
sdague | it's close | 12:42 |
jichen | sdague: yes, I can , I added a comment https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/api-ref/source/parameters.yaml#L229 , here? | 12:42 |
sdague | oh, I didn't see that added | 12:42 |
sdague | ok, then I think it's fine | 12:42 |
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jichen | sdague: ok, thanks | 12:43 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Fix remaining json reference warnings https://review.openstack.org/308308 | 12:44 |
sdague | ok, after that patch, all the file warnings are gone. | 12:44 |
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sdague | now we've got a few more warnings to fix | 12:44 |
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bauzas | kashyap: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1562681/comments/7 | 12:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1562681 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "instance evacuate without image's metadata" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to guo.lei (403554373-w) | 12:50 |
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kashyap | bauzas: Thanks | 12:51 |
bauzas | that sounds an easy fix | 12:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Prateek Arora proposed openstack/nova: Delete traces of in-progress snapshot on VM being deleted https://review.openstack.org/294513 | 12:57 |
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sc68cal | found a DB deadlock - http://logs.openstack.org/62/307862/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron/eabfec3/logs/old/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=ERROR#_2016-04-20_07_27_18_446 | 12:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Don't override _update_from_compute_node https://review.openstack.org/308279 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Laszlo Hegedus proposed openstack/nova: Replace root volume during rebuild https://review.openstack.org/305079 | 13:01 |
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stacker | irc noob here... about an hour ago i posted a question that got no response. do i repost it? what is proper irc etiquette? how do i pursue my issue? | 13:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Move notification objects to a separate package https://review.openstack.org/305294 | 13:22 |
syfy323 | stacker, repost imho, had the same problem yesterday | 13:22 |
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stacker | thanks! | 13:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Permit Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/308198 | 13:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/307131 | 13:26 |
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stacker | devstack is hanging when i set MYSQL_HOST to a non-localhost mariadb instance | 13:27 |
stacker | the hang occurs here: openstack flavor list | 13:27 |
stacker | i have ssh'd into the vm and explicitly run the command: openstack --debug flavor list | 13:27 |
stacker | after it has hung a ctrl-c spits out the python traceback which i posted (along with my local.conf) here: http://pastebin.com/cAhKZYF6 | 13:27 |
stacker | i am running this in Fedora 23 | 13:27 |
stacker | any help would be awesome! | 13:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Move all extensions from contrib dir https://review.openstack.org/280726 | 13:29 |
openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support of caching https://review.openstack.org/299860 | 13:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [extensions] cache discovered extensions https://review.openstack.org/287131 | 13:31 |
openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Cache discover_version method https://review.openstack.org/299862 | 13:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci : Fix resize with PCI devices https://review.openstack.org/307124 | 13:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: abort_live_migration remove redundant check https://review.openstack.org/304621 | 13:44 |
openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: force_live_migration remove redundant check https://review.openstack.org/287997 | 13:44 |
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cdent | gibi: (or anyone else) are there any generic guidelines anywhere on what should be included in the payload of a notification? I'm in the midst of creating a new one (for resource pools) and to some extent there's really no need to send anything other than the uuid of the resource pool. | 13:55 |
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johnthetubaguy | cdent: I don't think we created that yet, we often send the full object, but I don't quite remember why, I guess so the notification is useful by its-self for post processing? | 13:59 |
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cdent | Yeah, that's what I noticed but with resource pools the key piece of info (the amount of resources used) is quickly out of date and also lazily loaded on the object | 14:01 |
cdent | so if you wanted to get accurate info you need to look up (via the api) again anyway | 14:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/nova: Eliminate resource races in Ironic host manager https://review.openstack.org/308348 | 14:02 |
johnthetubaguy | cdent: so a lot of the time you might want the old info, at the time of the notification | 14:02 |
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johnthetubaguy | cdent: I am thinking about progress increments as you build an instance, and the notifications for instance.save() | 14:03 |
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cdent | I'll leave it blank for the moment while I continue thinking about it, and see where it takes me. Once I get there I can go back and fill in the blanks. | 14:03 |
johnthetubaguy | sometimes we include the changes, in the notification as well, the old and new value when there is a state change | 14:03 |
johnthetubaguy | cdent: now its versioned, starting small, and expanding seems easier to manage | 14:04 |
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cdent | yeah, definitely, but in this case I'm meaning before it ever merges. This stack of code has a whole bunch of stuff below it before this will ever see the light of review | 14:04 |
jroll | bauzas: that weird ironic resource tracker thing we were looking at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308348/ | 14:05 |
oanson | Hello | 14:05 |
oanson | Would adding the tenant-id to the external_ids of the Interface in the OVS DB be acceptable? | 14:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci : Fix resize with PCI devices https://review.openstack.org/307124 | 14:19 |
openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: [WIP]: nova-api-hypervisor-cpu-info change https://review.openstack.org/304180 | 14:22 |
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jroll | does anyone have strong objections to putting this in a library, so I can use it in ironic? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/extra_specs_ops.py | 14:25 |
gibi | cdent: I think there is no generic guide line. | 14:26 |
openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize netconf options https://review.openstack.org/294312 | 14:26 |
jroll | (we want full compatibility with the ComputeCapabilitiesFilter) | 14:26 |
gibi | cdent: but we shall not send a lot of data especially if that data is static / unchanged | 14:26 |
tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: got question about this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/neutron-hostname-dns | 14:27 |
jroll | and also, any opinions if that should be a new lib or in oslo.utils, or somewhere else? | 14:27 |
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danpb | paul-carlton1: fyi, i've been doing some performance testing with qemu post-copy and autoconverge | 14:27 |
cdent | thanks gibi | 14:27 |
danpb | paul-carlton1: i've found something interesting, which is that contrary to previous assertions by qemu devs, turning on post-copy at start of migration does not appear to have any serious performance penalty | 14:27 |
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gibi | cdent: In case of a resource pool update I think the pool uuid and the field that is actually changed (e.g. allocated / free resource) can be sent | 14:28 |
danpb | paul-carlton1: which means we will probably be able to turn it on unconditionally, regardless of whether we'll ever actually switch it to post-copy mode later during migration | 14:28 |
johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: sure | 14:28 |
gibi | cdent: but if you have a spec / code I can happy to look at it | 14:28 |
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tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: here is scenario create port in neutron -> boot instance -> attach port to instance -> detach port -> try to attach to another instance, last action will fail as dns_name field will be not cleaned on prev detach, is it by design? | 14:29 |
cdent | gibi: no code committed yet and the spec doesn't go into any detail on what's desired (I've left a comment on it asking for more): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300176/ | 14:29 |
johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: ah, nope, thats a bug I think | 14:30 |
sarafraj | good morning | 14:30 |
gibi | cdent: thanks for the ref, I will check this out | 14:30 |
tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: I'll file a bug and push patch to review | 14:30 |
johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: I am unsure if there is a way to clear the DNS setting when Nova kills the VM, you would have to check with carl_baldwin I guess | 14:31 |
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tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: I think it's possible | 14:31 |
johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: it is intentional that a port with a miss-matches DNS name being passed it will fail | 14:31 |
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johnthetubaguy | s/passed it/passed in/ | 14:31 |
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tdurakov | yes, but why we are not cleaning dns_name field when detaching port | 14:32 |
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johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: that bit is definitely a bug | 14:33 |
tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: I think we should update dns here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py#L318 | 14:33 |
tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: will push patch today | 14:33 |
johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: +1 | 14:33 |
johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: awesome | 14:33 |
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jaypipes | jroll: I have objections to extra_specs in general... I'd love to see the extra_specs go away in favor of standardized set of capabilities codes. And that should indeed live in a shared library, IMHO. | 14:37 |
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jroll | jaypipes: sure, but in the meantime | 14:38 |
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jaypipes | jroll: :) yes, that was my way of saying ... well, ok :) | 14:39 |
jroll | heh, cool | 14:39 |
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jaypipes | jroll: or at least, the matching logic pulling that out into a lib. | 14:39 |
jroll | I'll go ahead and propose to oslo.utils, and let them tell me if it belongs there or somewhere else | 14:39 |
jroll | jaypipes: yeah, I'm only moving that file | 14:39 |
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jaypipes | jroll: well, the filter class itself shouldn't move.. just the logic around matching on extra specs | 14:40 |
jroll | jaypipes: yes, just the extra_specs_ops.py | 14:40 |
jaypipes | ++ | 14:40 |
jaypipes | jroll: go for it, Rolly. | 14:40 |
jroll | jaypipes: and then I'll likely allow the caller to pass in an optional op_methods thing so we can use it with int-only things | 14:41 |
jroll | ಠ_ಠ| 14:41 |
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gibi | cdent: I left a comment on the resource-pool spec. What do you think would it be beneficial to write down a guideline about the notification payload in the notification dev-ref? | 14:42 |
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sdague | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308264/ is another way we could address the issue yesterday about 'ec2' service in the config | 14:45 |
sdague | which would be nicer for folks | 14:45 |
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jaypipes | jroll: works for me. | 14:46 |
mriedem | sdague: ok, i'll take a look in a bit | 14:47 |
jroll | jaypipes: cool, ty | 14:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Move notification objects to a separate package https://review.openstack.org/305294 | 14:47 |
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belliott | mriedem: see my comment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307984/2 i'm not sure we can write a useful test for this behavior | 14:50 |
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sdague | johnthetubaguy: on the os-agent code (xen only) do you know what the hypervisor field is supposed to be? | 14:51 |
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sdague | is it supposed to be the hypervisor type? | 14:52 |
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johnthetubaguy | sdague: sorry, missing context, I don't get the questions, which hypervisor type? | 14:52 |
sdague | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#os-agents-v2.1 | 14:53 |
sdague | there is a field called hypervisor | 14:53 |
sdague | in the code, it's entirely unclear what that is besides a string | 14:53 |
sdague | it's one of the dangling references I'm trying to sort out to get rid of warnings | 14:54 |
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sdague | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/db06f9aa619923de9ce141d1bd06445e1d63ea48/nova/virt/xenapi/agent.py#L203-L215 - I guess given that, it's supposed to be a hypervisor type | 14:55 |
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johnthetubaguy | sdague: oh, right, I totally forgot about that API, understood | 14:57 |
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mriedem | belliott: yeah i saw it, i wanted to look into that more, we shouldn't be mocking any i18n stuff out, at least not globally | 14:58 |
mriedem | that's why i was wondering if the xenapi tests were mocking something out | 14:58 |
sdague | johnthetubaguy: is it even really used by xenserver? | 14:58 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: so its basically used to decide if an upgrade is needed, so I guess its always "xen", which is kinda horrid | 14:58 |
johnthetubaguy | its used here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/db06f9aa619923de9ce141d1bd06445e1d63ea48/nova/virt/xenapi/agent.py#L200 | 14:59 |
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johnthetubaguy | sdague: basically, its to do bug fixes to agents that are living in existing snapshots, so when you boot a new one, you can force upgrade the agent | 15:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Clean port dns_name in case of port detach https://review.openstack.org/308389 | 15:00 |
sdague | johnthetubaguy: ok, but only if you've gone and registered the agent via the api? | 15:01 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: yes | 15:01 |
mriedem | dansmith: did you see that resize revert from deleted flavor thing passed on your change but not on any of the stable branches? | 15:02 |
dansmith | mriedem: yeah, I was looking to see if I could figure out why | 15:02 |
mriedem | i haven't dug into the stable job results yet | 15:02 |
dansmith | mriedem: but like Isaid before, I wasn't sure those were using read_deleted=True, so they might be failing for different reasons | 15:02 |
mriedem | just noticed it before bed last night | 15:02 |
dansmith | same fix will do though | 15:02 |
mriedem | yeah | 15:02 |
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tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: about live_migration_monitor - I'd like to move it to it's own module | 15:04 |
tdurakov | what do you think? | 15:04 |
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johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: that might work, i can't quite imagine it well enough to be sure. | 15:05 |
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tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: some class with logic for each event, instead of single method. Will try to implement | 15:08 |
openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: doc: Add guidline about notification payload https://review.openstack.org/308393 | 15:08 |
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stacker | in devstack, what does 'disable_service' encompass? i presumed it toggled whether a service would get installed locally or not, but testing reveals otherwise. | 15:13 |
stacker | i say that because 'disable_service mysql' plus 'MYSQL_HOST=<my remote mysql>' hangs devstack at 'openstack flavor list' | 15:13 |
stacker | while 'enable_service mysql' plus 'MYSQL_HOST=<my remote mysql>' does not hang devstack | 15:13 |
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dansmith | stacker: this is the wrong channel to ask devstack questions | 15:14 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Use assertGreater(A, X) instead of assertTrue(A > X) https://review.openstack.org/302734 | 15:14 |
mriedem | stacker: this isn't really the appropriate channel for devstack questions, those are more or the #openstack-qa channel | 15:14 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Use assertLess(Equal) instead of assertTrue(A > X) https://review.openstack.org/308401 | 15:14 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Use assert(Not)Equal instead of assertTrue(A == X) https://review.openstack.org/308402 | 15:14 |
mriedem | stacker: but i'd clone the code and look to see what the function does and how it's used. | 15:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Move extra_specs_ops to oslo.utils https://review.openstack.org/308403 | 15:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Final warnings removals for api-ref https://review.openstack.org/308404 | 15:21 |
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sdague | mriedem / johnthetubaguy ^^^ is a kind of hodge podge fix, but it does let us enforce warnings as errors | 15:22 |
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mriedem | i'm not sure how i can approve that when it's not linked to the blueprint :) | 15:23 |
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mriedem | i'll take a look | 15:24 |
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sdague | I'll fix the bp ref | 15:25 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Final warnings removals for api-ref https://review.openstack.org/308404 | 15:25 |
sdague | I really need to write a git hook that adds that for me based on something | 15:26 |
openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: Start using reno for release notes https://review.openstack.org/308407 | 15:26 |
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mriedem | i don't really know the state_machine stuff in rest_parameters, so i'll just trust you there | 15:26 |
mriedem | i suppose self.state_machine.node is just a doc item | 15:27 |
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sdague | sphinx processes things kind of like an event stream going through a state machine | 15:34 |
sdague | so the state_machine knows where you are | 15:34 |
sdague | self.state_machine.node ends up being the rest_parameters stanza we're currently processing | 15:35 |
openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: Start using reno for release notes https://review.openstack.org/308407 | 15:35 |
sdague | so source and line tell you which file it was in and where | 15:35 |
sdague | so that you get: | 15:35 |
sdague | /home/sdague/code/openstack/nova/api-ref/source/api-ref/source/os-services.inc:200 .rst:: WARNING: No field definition for ``service_id`` found in ``/home/sdague/code/openstack/nova/api-ref/source/parameters.yaml``. Skipping. | 15:35 |
bauzas | p!spy | 15:35 |
ccarmack1 | alaski, mriedem, melwitt: I put some thoughts/questions on cells v2 testing at the bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-cells-testing. Maybe we can discuss at the cells mtg today. | 15:35 |
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bauzas | jroll: aloha, missed your ping | 15:36 |
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bauzas | jroll: but my scrollback says to me that you had a convo :) | 15:36 |
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mriedem | sdague: ok, +2 on that one | 15:38 |
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mriedem | i have to go get shorn now so i'm prettied up before the summit | 15:39 |
mriedem | back in awhile | 15:39 |
alaski | ccarmack1: definitely. I'll throw it on the agenda | 15:39 |
kashyap | mriedem: When you get a moment, you might also have some thoughts here -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1562681/ (I can confirm from my testing, comment#6, this morning that on a non-shared storage setup, this behavior does not manifest.) | 15:39 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1562681 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Post instance evacuation, image metadata is not retained" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to guo.lei (403554373-w) | 15:39 |
sdague | mriedem: heh | 15:39 |
ccarmack1 | thanks alaski | 15:39 |
sdague | yeh, I'm out to lunch here for a bit | 15:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize compute options https://review.openstack.org/295938 | 15:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: nova-manage: Use consistent prints for errors https://review.openstack.org/289309 | 15:40 |
openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: Start using reno for release notes https://review.openstack.org/308407 | 15:42 |
sdague | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 15:42 |
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dansmith | I assume that mriedem_haircut saying "go get shorn", while sounding fancy, actually means "go get in line at supercuts" | 15:45 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Expose hugepages via API https://review.openstack.org/305728 | 15:45 |
ccarmack1 | mriedem goes to a fancy salon | 15:46 |
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dansmith | is that fancy salon called supercuts? | 15:46 |
ccarmack1 | he's cagey about that | 15:46 |
ccarmack1 | not sure | 15:46 |
dansmith | saying supercuts with a fancy french accent won't fool me | 15:46 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: np | 15:47 |
bauzas | dansmith: I can voice that | 15:48 |
dansmith | heh, yeah | 15:48 |
bauzas | after all, French dub any phrase American pronounce | 15:48 |
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bauzas | I could just do like the others | 15:48 |
dansmith | yep, always an improvement | 15:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize servicegroup options https://review.openstack.org/303074 | 15:52 |
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bauzas | jroll: good catch for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308348/ that reminds me some nasty bug we recently fixed for the main sched driver | 15:53 |
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bauzas | jroll: that said, I was expecting that the change we merged earlier for the main driver was fixing also the Ironic driver, I'm a bit surprised it's not that | 15:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan McNair proposed openstack/nova: Fix swap_volume to use attached vol_id to get BDM https://review.openstack.org/304714 | 15:58 |
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dansmith | mriedem_haircut: johnthetubaguy: sdague: we've had deprecation of injected_files on the books for a while right? | 16:00 |
johnthetubaguy | we have, I don't remember how explicit we are | 16:01 |
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dansmith | given that we have a spec proposed to rely on it for another formal feature, we might want to get more explicit | 16:01 |
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johnthetubaguy | ah, that sounds bad, time to be more explicit | 16:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Ivo Vasev proposed openstack/nova: Added validation for rescue image ref https://review.openstack.org/307317 | 16:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Define instance availability profiles. https://review.openstack.org/305425 | 16:38 |
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sacharya | Hello, I am looking at the simple tenant usage api, and right now the api takes start and stop times, and gives you usage info between that time. I am interested in getting the usage info filtered by instance metadata keys. Is that something that would be interesting for other folks in nova? Or should I be using ceilometer instead? | 16:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: abort_live_migration remove redundant check https://review.openstack.org/304621 | 16:43 |
openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: force_live_migration remove redundant check https://review.openstack.org/287997 | 16:43 |
tdurakov | alaski: updated patches, could you re-review it again? | 16:43 |
alaski | tdurakov: sure | 16:44 |
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tdurakov | alaski: need to fix pep8 problem for abort_live_migration patch, but comments on the first one are addressed | 16:46 |
openstackgerrit | Clenimar Filemon proposed openstack/nova: Use Identity v3 params when connecting to Ironic https://review.openstack.org/300154 | 16:46 |
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mriedem | ivase: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307317/ was rebased? | 16:50 |
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mriedem | oh pep8 | 16:50 |
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ivase | mriedem: my upgraded flake8 did not caught the tox pep8 ordering | 16:50 |
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ivase | yea :-( | 16:51 |
ivase | so i guess i will start using tox not only for unit testing but for pep8 | 16:51 |
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ivase | Thanks mriedem! | 16:51 |
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mriedem | dansmith: i gave up on great clips years ago | 16:54 |
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mriedem | now i pay real money for a real haircut, but only do it every 3 months | 16:55 |
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dansmith | mriedem: like a place with sports on the tv and strong beer on tap? | 16:56 |
mriedem | no, a lady place | 16:56 |
mriedem | for ladies | 16:56 |
mriedem | and me | 16:56 |
jwcroppe | mriedem: great clips... I can't believe you're not loyal to them! | 16:56 |
openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: [WIP]: nova-api-hypervisor-cpu-info change https://review.openstack.org/304180 | 16:57 |
kashyap | dansmith: Heya, when you get a sec...about that bug I pointed in the scrollback, does this come close to what you're suggesting? http://paste.openstack.org/show/494853/ | 16:57 |
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jwcroppe | mriedem: they have been providing me with sub-par haircuts for 11 years | 16:57 |
kashyap | dansmith: Passing it in the RPC call means it can impact upgrade? | 16:57 |
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dansmith | kashyap: right, so you have to account for the fact that you could still get None there for old_image_ref | 16:58 |
dansmith | kashyap: and I haven't surveyed further to make sure that setting that to non-None won't have other effects | 16:58 |
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dansmith | kashyap: the other option is to just get Instance.image_ref you know, which doesn't impact RPC, but also seems maybe a little less good | 16:59 |
dansmith | however, if you're not rebuilding with an image and you have a ref, getting the metadata again is probably the right thing to do | 16:59 |
dansmith | again from the original I mean | 16:59 |
kashyap | dansmith: I see, I don't see such a thing as "old_image_ref" from 'git grep', am I being dense? | 17:00 |
dansmith | kashyap: orig_image_ref | 17:00 |
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kashyap | Ah, okay :-) | 17:01 |
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kashyap | dansmith: Can you expand on why you say: "Instance.image_ref is a "little less good"? | 17:01 |
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dansmith | kashyap: well, (a) I'm not sure when that might be right or wrong and (b) it is just a bit of a divergence from the fact that we're passing (sometimes) an image_ref to that method | 17:02 |
dansmith | unfortunately, that method is used for two very different purposes, | 17:02 |
dansmith | so this ambiguity is not too surprising | 17:02 |
dansmith | passing None now kindof means "take the default" even though it's clearly not the right default now | 17:03 |
dansmith | so maybe re-using Instance.image_ref is the right default | 17:03 |
kashyap | Hmm | 17:03 |
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dansmith | I'm being wishy-washy because I just haven't looked through all of it and generally hate that code | 17:03 |
kashyap | dansmith: I don't pretend to grasp the complete reach of this issue...But still digesting | 17:03 |
dansmith | yeah | 17:03 |
bauzas | dansmith: kashyap: I was thinking just taking the image_ref from the instance, not passing it down thru RPC | 17:03 |
tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: ready to be reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308389/ | 17:03 |
bauzas | dansmith: kashyap: given we already have this | 17:04 |
dansmith | kashyap: I'd do the Instance.image_ref thing and verify that it solves the problem in the bug and then put it up for discussion | 17:04 |
bauzas | unless I'm wrong | 17:04 |
dansmith | bauzas: right, which is what I'm saying is one option | 17:04 |
dansmith | I just wish that method always took the image_ref we wanted, even if it was Instance.image_ref in the evacuate case | 17:04 |
dansmith | having the logic so deep seems wrong to me | 17:04 |
dansmith | but obviously easier to backport | 17:04 |
bauzas | dansmith: right, I see your point | 17:05 |
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jroll | bauzas: yeah, I'm actually skeptical that isn't the fix | 17:05 |
jroll | re 308348 | 17:05 |
kashyap | dansmith: bauzas Thanks for the comments, let me try | 17:06 |
bauzas | dansmith: or we could then pass both image_ref and orig_image_ref and compare them | 17:06 |
bauzas | dansmith: if both are equal, it's an evacuate | 17:06 |
* kashyap wading through this area for the first time... | 17:07 | |
bauzas | given image_ref can be optional and set to None if rebuild | 17:07 |
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dansmith | bauzas: right, but we have to be sure not to trigger an actual rebuild in that case | 17:07 |
dansmith | bauzas: and we already have rebuild=True or whatever it is | 17:07 |
bauzas | dansmith: there are 3 cases | 17:07 |
bauzas | dansmith: either it's an evacuate | 17:07 |
bauzas | or, it's a rebuild with a new image | 17:07 |
bauzas | or, it's a rebuild with the same image | 17:07 |
dansmith | yeah | 17:08 |
bauzas | (given rebuild API action optionals the image_ref) | 17:08 |
bauzas | so | 17:08 |
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dansmith | but evacuate has two cases, shared and not | 17:08 |
openstackgerrit | Hahyun proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add direct download feature for rbd glance backend https://review.openstack.org/308481 | 17:08 |
kashyap | Yeah | 17:08 |
bauzas | if it's a rebuild, image_ref is either set to a new image, or None | 17:08 |
bauzas | either way, it will be different | 17:08 |
kashyap | Incidentally, I tested the non-shared case, at least I'm clear that it works and retains the instance | 17:08 |
bauzas | from orig_image_ref | 17:08 |
kashyap | s/instance/instance metadata prop/ | 17:08 |
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bauzas | kashyap: it does work because https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/0315d46766fa4357c6608541be39aada4eb5941d/nova/compute/manager.py#L2882 | 17:09 |
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kashyap | bauzas: So, a similar conditional for the shared case is what I should try | 17:11 |
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bauzas | jroll: well, I was surprised to see the ironic case unfixed | 17:11 |
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kashyap | dansmith: One quick question on your comment: "but we have to be sure not to trigger an actual rebuild in that case" | 17:11 |
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kashyap | dansmith: Evacuate is "rebuild somewhere else" (quoting by memory, from your blog post on the joys of 'evacuate' in Nova) | 17:11 |
dansmith | kashyap: what I mean is a rebuild from the image, so: | 17:12 |
kashyap | dansmith: Mind rephrasing that quoted text? | 17:12 |
dansmith | kashyap: evacuate on shared storage means "hook up my shared storage to this other compute and start me up again" | 17:12 |
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kashyap | dansmith: Ah-ha | 17:12 |
dansmith | kashyap: normally rebuild (which is the same op under the covers) means "completely rebuild my root disk from this new image (or the original one)" | 17:12 |
kashyap | That last comment clears it up | 17:12 |
dansmith | you don't want to confuse those | 17:12 |
dansmith | so if you set image_ref somewhere, | 17:13 |
dansmith | that causes rebuild to say "okay, he wants a real full rebuild from this image" it will destroy data | 17:13 |
kashyap | Yeah | 17:13 |
kashyap | dansmith: Resulting in non-dictionary defintion of 'evacuate' :-) | 17:13 |
dansmith | heh | 17:14 |
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kashyap | Anyway, thanks for this discussion. At least, I'm coming close (I think) to understanding what is all involved. | 17:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from test_extensions.py https://review.openstack.org/304892 | 17:18 |
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Guest17033 | dansmith: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274955/ I noticed from your example get_cell_client was an instance method but I was thinking, if we end up needing it for other APIs, we would just duplicate it? | 17:19 |
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melwitt | dansmith: sorry I didn't realize I didn't have my nick anymore | 17:19 |
dansmith | melwitt: no, like I said, I think it's fine to put the meat where you have it, I'd just expect all the instance methods in a given api to call self.get_cell_client(), and do the indirection there | 17:20 |
melwitt | dansmith: ah, okay | 17:20 |
dansmith | and if I didn't say that, then s/like I said/like I thought/ | 17:20 |
melwitt | heh, I understand. thanks | 17:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: abort_live_migration remove redundant check https://review.openstack.org/304621 | 17:21 |
openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: force_live_migration remove redundant check https://review.openstack.org/287997 | 17:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: [WIP]: nova-api-hypervisor-cpu-info change https://review.openstack.org/304180 | 17:28 |
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dansmith | johnthetubaguy: have you gone through all of what the osprofiler decorators mean for us on our manager and api classes? | 17:31 |
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dansmith | johnthetubaguy: I have not, but I'm rather concerned if we don't have a good understanding of that | 17:31 |
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openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova: Add message queue switching through RequestContext https://review.openstack.org/274955 | 17:39 |
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nikhil_k | mriedem: hey! mike has been quite busy with his internal stuff but I sent him a note for responding to the spec. I will reply to the comments later today as well. Just wanted to update you, no issues atm. | 17:45 |
mriedem | ok, thanks | 17:45 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP Add notifications for resource pools https://review.openstack.org/308503 | 17:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Add request schema debugging https://review.openstack.org/306281 | 17:51 |
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oomichi | sdague: alex_xu: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306281/ generates RST of request parameters from json-schema. | 17:56 |
oomichi | sdague: alex_xu: I wrote the result on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-request-jsonschema2rsta | 17:56 |
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oomichi | sdague: alex_xu: hope that will be helpful for fixing the content of api-ref RST files | 17:56 |
sdague | oomichi: where is the output? | 17:57 |
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oomichi | sdague: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-request-jsonschema2rsta | 17:58 |
oomichi | sdague: the format is the same as current parameters.yaml without "description" | 17:59 |
oomichi | sdague: current json-schema doesn't contain "description", and we cannot generate it from json-schema. | 18:00 |
sdague | right, so I'd post that somewhere for people to cross reference | 18:00 |
sdague | it also doesn't include path or query params, because those aren't in jsonschema | 18:00 |
sdague | I think it's fine to have that for cross reference, it's still very incomplete, and it probably is just as useful to have people cross checking the code | 18:01 |
oomichi | sdague: nice point. yeah, I am not sure how to cover them. The above etherpad is just for useful to check current content. | 18:02 |
oomichi | sdague: yeah, I agree | 18:02 |
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sdague | yep, it might be nice to put it into a gist or something so you get yaml highlighting | 18:05 |
sdague | I agree that it could be useful to cross check | 18:05 |
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oomichi | sdague: if migrating *response* schemas from Tempest, we can generate this kind of RST to check responses also :) | 18:07 |
sdague | yeh, we can do that eventually as well | 18:07 |
sdague | but we need to actually do the content first :) | 18:07 |
oomichi | sdague: yeah, I agree. The content is older/invalid than I expected. | 18:08 |
sdague | yeh, me too | 18:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP - libvirt: Implement stable device rescues https://review.openstack.org/270289 | 18:18 |
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oomichi | sdague: can we separate parameters definitions for each API? Current way(all in parameters.yaml) is difficult to check/write "required" because they are different between POST and PUT on the same resource. | 18:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add 415 to list of exceptions for microversions devref https://review.openstack.org/308519 | 18:35 |
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EZPZ | #openstack-telemetry | 18:39 |
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mriedem | alaski: checking bp status, this is approved but no code posted to it yet? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cells-scheduling-interaction | 18:39 |
mriedem | i think that confused with the add-buildrequest-obj stuff before | 18:40 |
mriedem | *got confused | 18:40 |
mriedem | jroll: is there any code up for ironic multiple compute hosts? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/ironic-multiple-compute-hosts | 18:40 |
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mriedem | or is that being held for discussion at the nova/ironic summit session? | 18:40 |
alaski | mriedem: yeah, the buildrequest-obj is a pre-req. the next few patches in my series will get into the scheduling-interaction spec | 18:41 |
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mriedem | claudiub: gonna rebase this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192618/ | 18:42 |
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tdurakov | alaski: are you around? | 18:44 |
claudiub | mriedem: sure. will do. | 18:44 |
alaski | tdurakov: yes | 18:44 |
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tdurakov | so, talking about live-migration-abort fix: I really don't want to move these methods out from live_migration_monitor, as their scope is really tiny. So I think it's worth to merge live_migration_force_complete patch to set up pattern for such communication with monitor, than move monitor out and only then get back to abort patch, what do you think? | 18:47 |
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tdurakov | alaski: ^ | 18:48 |
dedery | mriedem: ping | 18:48 |
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mriedem | dedery: i know what you're pinging me about | 18:54 |
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dedery | mriedem: hehe :) and? | 18:54 |
alaski | tdurakov: that works. I only mentioned moving them out because it triggers the complexity check. If you can reduce the complexity by refactoring that whole method out that's great | 18:55 |
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mriedem | claudiub: how about this one? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-spawn-on-neutron-event | 18:55 |
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mriedem | jaypipes: is resource-providers done? I see https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/resource-providers+status:open but those look like generic-resource-pools changes | 18:57 |
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oomichi | sdague: did you give some comment about RST separation for each API? My windows pc was freezed and I lost the log of this channel in 15 mins.. | 18:58 |
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mriedem | jaypipes: and some resource-providers stuff really looks like resource-providers-allocations, like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282442/ | 18:58 |
jaypipes | mriedem: Yeah, I believe it is done. resource-providers was specifically the schema changes, which were all done in Mitaka. | 18:58 |
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jaypipes | mriedem: leftover remnants of when the resource-providers work was all in one blueprint, before I split it all out... | 18:59 |
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claudiub | mriedem: i have a basic implementation for it, it's working fine if the hyper-v compute node has neutron-hyperv-agent as an L2 agent, but it's not yet working for openvswitch-agent as an L2 agent yet. Basically, the neutron port is not bound until I start the VM, and I don't start the VM until the port is bound. :) | 18:59 |
claudiub | mriedem: so, I'll have to do something about that. | 18:59 |
mriedem | jaypipes: ok, i'm going to close out the resource-providers blueprint then | 18:59 |
mtreinish | oomichi: just put that in a corner and then use a real os to do real work (or just run windows in a vm) | 19:00 |
mtreinish | oomichi: also: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2016-04-20.log.html#t2016-04-20T18:58:26 | 19:00 |
oomichi | mtreinish: hehe, ok. There is a new ubuntu pc which is gotten recently. will start using it instead :) | 19:01 |
jaypipes | mriedem: cheerio, dear leader. | 19:02 |
openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize compute options https://review.openstack.org/295938 | 19:02 |
sdague | oomichi: one sec | 19:02 |
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oomichi | mtreinish: ah, surprised. thanks. I did think this channel was not logged | 19:03 |
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sdague | oomichi: the sphinx extension supports multiple parameters.yaml | 19:21 |
sdague | however, I don't think it's a good idea | 19:21 |
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sdague | we may want to annotate something else about the fields to handle the required / optional on PUT vs. post | 19:22 |
sdague | or bring it back into the RST file in some way | 19:22 |
sdague | could you add this as something in the x-p session etherpad? | 19:23 |
sdague | because fortunately we're starting to learn some things about the warts in the current implementation, and we can work on it | 19:23 |
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oomichi | sdague: is the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-api-docs-rst ? | 19:24 |
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oomichi | sdague: ok, I will add these points | 19:25 |
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sdague | oomichi: yes | 19:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: force_live_migration remove redundant check https://review.openstack.org/287997 | 19:31 |
oomichi | sdague: I prefer "bring it back into the RST file" at this time because we need to take care about type(body, query, ..) aslo for each param. | 19:31 |
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oomichi | sdague: it is nice to put them as discussion points | 19:32 |
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oomichi | sdague: current way requires each param name needs to contain "type" also. That is hard to maintain | 19:33 |
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sdague | oomichi: I honestly don't think it's that hard to maintain | 19:36 |
sdague | and, if it's in parameters.yaml, we can do analysis on it later | 19:36 |
sdague | my experience is that complexity in the RST files is much worse | 19:36 |
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sdague | because your editor is going to fight you | 19:37 |
sdague | oomichi: for what it's worth, the first prototype had this all inline in the rst file, and it was a mess to maintain | 19:38 |
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mriedem | huh, _sync_power_states could be smarter | 19:47 |
mriedem | we load up all instances on the compute host | 19:47 |
mriedem | and then filter then in code | 19:47 |
mriedem | like if task_state != None, skip it | 19:48 |
mriedem | we should skip that stuff in the DB query at the beginning | 19:48 |
mriedem | jaypipes would be all about up front db filtering | 19:48 |
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sdague | oomichi: you want to look over this checklist and see what I'm missing - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NovaAPIRef | 19:50 |
melwitt | mriedem: I'm working on converting the ceph jobs to using the devstack plugin. several were clear todos, but I was wondering, does anything need to be done in this section too? https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L2339-L2345 | 19:52 |
mriedem | melwitt: we need a ceph plugin src job | 19:52 |
mriedem | i dumped the details on that to jbernard_ in -qa a week or two ago | 19:53 |
melwitt | mriedem: okay, so that part is different | 19:53 |
mriedem | that would be for https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L2343 for glance_store and os-brick | 19:53 |
mriedem | as for https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L2339 and glance_store on kilo, idk about that one | 19:53 |
openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/nova: Fixed multiple issues with server_concepts page https://review.openstack.org/294284 | 19:53 |
mriedem | kashyap: this is what's super confusing to me | 19:54 |
mriedem | we start the cold snapshot on the instance here http://logs.openstack.org/90/299490/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/70398c8/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?#_2016-04-13_15_35_24_822 | 19:54 |
kashyap | mriedem: Following from -qa, on your question of difference between managedSave() and suspend()... | 19:54 |
mriedem | kashyap: and then we start deleting the instance here http://logs.openstack.org/90/299490/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/70398c8/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?#_2016-04-13_15_35_26_225 | 19:55 |
kashyap | (a) _domain.suspend(): Pauses and resumes the vCPUs from execution, but no state is saved anywhere. | 19:55 |
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kashyap | (b) _domain.managedSave(): Saves state to disk and then kills the QEMU process, resuming starts a new QEMU process | 19:55 |
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mriedem | i think because of that delete request, when we go back to recreate the domain (resume it?), it's gone | 19:55 |
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mriedem | note that it's a separate request | 19:56 |
mriedem | maybe a race in the tempest test | 19:56 |
mriedem | it's deleting the instance during the snapshot | 19:56 |
mriedem | wtf | 19:56 |
mriedem | brb | 19:56 |
kashyap | Clearly sounds like a race. | 19:57 |
melwitt | mriedem: found the log, reading | 19:58 |
kashyap | mriedem Speaking of races, should soon have newer QEMUs into Gate, as I've just seen a crasher bug (being fixed upstream, as a last-minute fix for QEMU-2.6) that occurs during snapshot / blockCommit() -- which we use in Nova...) | 19:58 |
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mriedem | rlrossit: aha http://logs.openstack.org/90/299490/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/70398c8/logs/tempest.txt.gz#_2016-04-13_15_35_23_550 | 20:01 |
mriedem | test_delete_saving_image | 20:02 |
mriedem | ffs | 20:02 |
mriedem | just wasted an hour of my time | 20:02 |
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rlrossit | glad I could help | 20:03 |
dedery | mriedem: so i don't really know what you had in mind as my ping reason. anyway, i took a look at libvirt's functions and there's nothing that can check the status of the PF (it's an internal method) | 20:03 |
dedery | i was wondering if a reasonable solution is to use "ip link ..." - but this is more of a neutron domain... | 20:04 |
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melwitt | mriedem: should the plugin based src job be a new job or modify the existing job name and content? | 20:06 |
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melwitt | it says "add" so that sounds like new job and leave the non-plugin based on there | 20:08 |
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oomichi | sdague: oh, cool. is that 4 steps as you said today irc meeting? | 20:10 |
sdague | oomichi: yes | 20:10 |
oomichi | now 5 steps but ;-) | 20:10 |
sdague | well, step 1 is describing the steps | 20:10 |
oomichi | ok, will see it carefully | 20:10 |
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mriedem | melwitt: new job | 20:12 |
mriedem | melwitt: we remove the non-plugin based job once the new one is being used | 20:12 |
mriedem | and then we can start deleting the ceph bits out of devstack | 20:12 |
melwitt | mriedem: cool | 20:13 |
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dedery | mriedem: sorry (too late here), found what i need in linux_net | 20:14 |
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mriedem | dedery: i assumed you were asking about the PF / snapshot thing, i didn't have anything in mind for checking the PF status before detaching the devices | 20:15 |
mriedem | i leave that up to the developers :) | 20:15 |
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dedery | mriedem: yeh, i'll just use ip link | 20:15 |
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jroll | mriedem: there is not code up for ironic multiple compute hosts, but I am hammering on the ironic side of it (which is a dependency for the work) | 20:18 |
jroll | mriedem: the ironic side got blocked pretty hard by folks concerned about out of tree scheduler filter things | 20:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: add tags to files for the content verification phase https://review.openstack.org/308569 | 20:22 |
mriedem | jroll: is there a bp for the ironic side dependency? | 20:23 |
openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: Add better help to rdp options https://review.openstack.org/253556 | 20:23 |
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sdague | mriedem https://review.openstack.org/308569 is the solution to breaking up work that we proposed this morning | 20:23 |
melwitt | mriedem: does that mean there shouldn't be changes to zuul layout in this same patch? | 20:23 |
sdague | would be good to land that before the AP folks wake up | 20:23 |
sdague | I'll also send an email on it | 20:24 |
jroll | mriedem: I'm re-spinning them now to make it smaller more manageable pieces and remove a bunch of extra junk we don't need. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1570604 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1526738 | 20:24 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1570604 in Ironic "[RFE] Node search API" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 20:24 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1526738 in Ironic "[RFE] Node Claims API" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Jim Rollenhagen (jim-rollenhagen) | 20:24 |
mriedem | melwitt: same patch as the one that adds the new template for the new job? | 20:24 |
jroll | mriedem: out of curiousity, why do you ask, what are you looking for? | 20:24 |
melwitt | mriedem: yeah | 20:24 |
jroll | progress I assume? | 20:24 |
mriedem | melwitt: might not be bad to stack those up as separate changes | 20:25 |
mriedem | jroll: just checking on the nova blueprints that are approved but haven't started yet | 20:25 |
mriedem | you know, project management :) | 20:25 |
melwitt | mriedem: okay, will do | 20:25 |
mriedem | jroll: eww RFEs | 20:25 |
jroll | mriedem: heh. yeah, I expect to have code up in both projects the first half of may | 20:25 |
openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/nova: Eliminate resource tracker to host manager races https://review.openstack.org/308348 | 20:25 |
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jroll | mriedem: blueprints are the worst | 20:25 |
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jroll | :P | 20:26 |
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mriedem | kashyap: thanks, i figured out the issue, it was a red herring and not an actual failure. | 20:26 |
oomichi | sdague: how about putting "Done" on each tag when fixing bugs on each patch? | 20:27 |
oomichi | sdague: When we find more points except current 4 tags, it would be nice to keep current tags to avoid confusions. | 20:27 |
oomichi | sdague: I am guessing we will find more viewpoints during the process | 20:28 |
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sdague | oomichi: I thought deleting would be easier, then you could git grep for the tag | 20:28 |
sdague | we might still find issues later, but this at least means everything has been looked at once | 20:29 |
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oomichi | sdague: ok, it would be nice to add a new tag to all RST files in a single patch when finding that. | 20:30 |
oomichi | sdague: nice to remove tags as current way | 20:30 |
mriedem | melwitt: as for glance_store and kilo, the change is pretty empty, just things weren't working https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250368/ | 20:31 |
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mriedem | melwitt: my guess is that's never going to be turned back on so we'd just remove it when we remove that template and switch glance-store over to using the plugin src job | 20:31 |
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melwitt | mriedem: okay, thanks | 20:32 |
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sdague | mriedem: if your installer uses nova-all ... you have bigger issues - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308264/1/nova/cmd/api.py :) | 20:36 |
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mriedem | sdague: maybe we should kill nova-all | 20:45 |
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sdague | mriedem: I'm all for that | 20:45 |
mriedem | pun intended? | 20:46 |
sdague | it's kind of silly | 20:46 |
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sdague | heh, no | 20:46 |
mriedem | we should all show up to https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9522 | 20:46 |
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sdague | heh | 20:47 |
mriedem | also, | 20:47 |
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mriedem | 2 sessions, 'containers in openstack' and 'openstack on containers' | 20:47 |
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mriedem | i guess those are different enough... | 20:48 |
mriedem | btw https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/#day=2016-04-25&summit_types=2&tags=976,1419 | 20:48 |
mriedem | dansmith: you might want to be at https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9516 | 20:48 |
mriedem | and https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/#day=2016-04-25&summit_types=2&tags=976,1419 | 20:48 |
mriedem | oops | 20:48 |
mriedem | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9503 | 20:48 |
openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Add request schema debugging https://review.openstack.org/306281 | 20:49 |
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sdague | I think I'd already starred the upgrades one | 20:52 |
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mriedem | i can't be at the nova maintenance one, have a talk at that time | 20:55 |
melwitt | alaski: on your comment on the mq switching patch on the "none" transport url, do you mean you think cell0 operation should even be going through target_cell? | 20:55 |
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melwitt | *shouldn't | 20:56 |
sdague | mriedem: it's on my list | 20:56 |
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sdague | right, that's the spec I -1ed actually | 20:56 |
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sdague | mriedem: I'll represent in that session | 20:57 |
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alaski | melwitt: right. if there's an attempt to call RPC for cell0 that's likely a bug | 20:58 |
melwitt | alaski: gotcha | 20:58 |
alaski | melwitt: oh, except it's used for db switching | 20:58 |
alaski | nvm | 20:58 |
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alaski | I am tempted to say that the cell0 transport should be created and then catch the failure in rpc.get_cell_client | 20:59 |
alaski | because that would indicate a bug | 20:59 |
alaski | but that's all outside of your current patch | 21:00 |
mriedem | probably an easyish bug for someone https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1572730 | 21:00 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1572730 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "The _sync_power_states task should filter out instances.task_state != None up front" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:00 |
mriedem | sdague: cool | 21:00 |
mriedem | cells v2 meeting and nova/cinder multiattach meetings, oh my | 21:00 |
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melwitt | alaski: okay. I'm working on a functional test for that patch anyway but wanted to get the latest version up for critique. so I can change that too | 21:01 |
alaski | melwitt: okay. I don't want to complicate things, the current code is fine IMO | 21:01 |
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mriedem | sdague: should https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308569/ render a todo in the api ref docs? | 21:04 |
sdague | mriedem: no | 21:04 |
sdague | it's just there for tracking purposes | 21:04 |
sdague | so you can delete them when done | 21:04 |
mriedem | nuts | 21:04 |
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sdague | mriedem: there is actually a sphinx todo extension I could figure out how to make work if you wanted | 21:05 |
mriedem | i just thought that might be cool | 21:05 |
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sdague | mriedem: well, I need to break for dinner, but maybe I'll look later to see how bad it would be to use the real todo extension | 21:06 |
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mriedem | np | 21:07 |
openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Add request schema debugging https://review.openstack.org/306281 | 21:09 |
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oomichi | mriedem: sdague: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308018 ? | 21:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Separate parameters from servers.inc https://review.openstack.org/308622 | 21:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Add request schema debugging https://review.openstack.org/306281 | 21:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Separate parameters from servers.inc https://review.openstack.org/308622 | 21:33 |
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dansmith | alaski: melwitt: no, you two do _not_ add up to one talkative person | 21:59 |
dansmith | by about 70% I'd guess | 21:59 |
melwitt | dansmith: he said "almost" | 22:00 |
alaski | I did say almost | 22:00 |
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dansmith | missing by 70% is not almost | 22:00 |
melwitt | :| | 22:00 |
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alaski | heh, seems like plenty to me :) | 22:02 |
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auggy | i'm all for quality over quantity ;) | 22:03 |
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dansmith | yeah, and I just hope that if I say enough things, some of them sound smart | 22:05 |
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alaski | and for me it's just the hope that if I don't say much I limit the amount of dumb that slips out | 22:07 |
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dansmith | that implies that you know what is dumb and not | 22:12 |
dansmith | I don't, so I just have to hope the smart sticks and the dumb melts away | 22:12 |
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oomichi | sdague: concern of current doc way is written on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-api-docs-rst | 22:16 |
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auggy | i just bank on people not thinking i'm serious when i say something dumb ;D | 22:18 |
dansmith | heh, yeah put a smiley after everything and people will never know | 22:19 |
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auggy | i had to start doing that at one job :( some people complained i sounded too grumpy in my emails | 22:19 |
auggy | so then i just put a smiley at the end of everything | 22:20 |
auggy | i am not sure that it helped | 22:20 |
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edleafe | "this job sucks! :)" | 22:20 |
auggy | "what steps did you take to resolve this issue before contacting me? oh, you didn't bother to try to troubleshoot it? i see. :)" | 22:22 |
auggy | "while i understand the customer wanted this yesterday, i have only been informed of this task in your last email and the soonest i can deliver this is next week. :)" | 22:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Consolidate image_href to image uuid validation code https://review.openstack.org/308014 | 22:37 |
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