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| Sharath_ | hi , i have doubt that , if compute node connection lost with controller how it will initiate the VM (service) under compute node ? | 04:34 |
| Sharath_ | will it initiate the service in excising compute node or will try to bring up the old compute node (which lost connection from OpenStack controller ) | 04:34 |
| Sharath_ | and what happens if again connection is established ? how service will be maintained, will openstack controller will kill the VM ? | 04:34 |
| Sharath_ | kindly explain me !! | 04:35 |
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| Sharath_ | help | 04:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova: Add message queue switching through RequestContext https://review.openstack.org/274955 | 05:17 |
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| hieulq | markus_z johnthetubaguy I have rebase and resolve conflict of libvirt config options chains, please take a look and re-review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309239/ | 06:34 |
| openstackgerrit | bailin.zhang proposed openstack/nova: Create VM failed, unplug vifs https://review.openstack.org/306219 | 06:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova-specs: libvirt: support for virtozzo storage volume driver https://review.openstack.org/312704 | 06:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Hua proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Remove ovs_integration_bridge default value https://review.openstack.org/299092 | 07:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 08:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hieulq: looking | 08:23 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | johnthetubaguy: Hi, can you check this again? it is a previously approved SPEC from Mitaka https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295595/ | 08:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | Kevin_Zheng: did you get code up for that last cycle, I don't remember now? | 08:28 |
| Kevin_Zheng | johnthetubaguy: yes the code was up for last cycle : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248989/ | 08:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | Kevin_Zheng: cool, I see it now | 08:31 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Thanks | 08:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | Kevin_Zheng: its totally coming back to me now, we discussed all about that new VM state | 08:32 |
| Kevin_Zheng | yes | 08:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from test_instance_fault.py https://review.openstack.org/312858 | 08:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | Kevin_Zheng: so there are a few niggles on the spec, but nothing too major | 08:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | Kevin_Zheng: given the code is up, do keep bugging us to get this approved, we should not let this one get through the net! | 08:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: could you help Kevin_Zheng with this patch that adds old style notifications, and work out an easy way to start adding new style notifications for these kinds of patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248989 | 08:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gibi: if we can't find an easy way to do that, we might want to revisit our block on new old style notifications :( | 08:38 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | johnthetubaguy: I have tried before | 08:39 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | but _notify_about_instance_usage is a way too commonly used notification, I think it will take a lot of time to modify it to new version | 08:41 |
| Kevin_Zheng | As they are starting with notifications that are not that common | 08:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | Kevin_Zheng: I think its unfair to get you to do that change, I am just wondering how quickly the notification folks will be able to get that sorted | 08:42 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: I will check it to see how hard it is to do with a new way | 08:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we can't do it that way, and block folks from adding old notifications | 08:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: its the common ones inside compute/manager.py | 08:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: I wonder if we can convert those sooner, include some generic instance action notification? | 08:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess all the strings need to become enums, but that seems possible, and the helper method would emit both old and new style notifications | 08:44 |
| gibi | the instance.delete which is on our list will pave the way for this as well | 08:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that works | 08:44 |
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| gibi | I will try to put code up for the create.delete this week | 08:44 |
| gibi | so Kevin_Zheng can depend on that | 08:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the follow on thing, I think, is we probably don't want to block new notifications in compute/manager.py until we have delete done | 08:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | lets see how that goes in the next week or so anyways | 08:45 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Fine, so how should I update the SPEC and possibly get it merged first? | 08:46 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: I'm a bit relucant to add new legacy ones as it can cause that we will never reach the end of the notification transformation | 08:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | Kevin_Zheng: just put that appropriate notifications will be emitted to match the current direction in the compute manager | 08:47 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: can we simply split Kevin_Zheng's commit on adding functionality and adding the notification? | 08:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: that would work | 08:47 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Hmm, I can put a TODO there | 08:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that seems like a reasonable comprimise | 08:47 |
| Kevin_Zheng | I can help on the notification though | 08:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | then maybe sweet talk gibi to trying out yours as the first new notification that is copying the pattern they added for the delete notification :) | 08:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | Kevin_Zheng: gibi: does that work for you both? | 08:48 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Sure | 08:49 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy, Kevin_Zheng: sure, let's do it | 08:49 |
| gibi | I will put up the delete as soon as I can | 08:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | awesome, that seems like a good path, no new old notifications, and not blocking folks too much | 08:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: coolness | 08:49 |
| gibi | It seem quiesce does not add any extra data to the notification | 08:49 |
| gibi | so it will be an easy next step to send a notification with the same payload but different event_type | 08:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: I think we probably want a generic instance action notification, if possible | 08:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats what I was thinking too | 08:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | special ones could always subclass the generic instance action payload, or something like that | 08:50 |
| gibi | yeah, there will be a generic payload that is usable in many cases but there will be instance actions that adds to this payload | 08:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | we might want to stop adding to the notification, unless its really needed, but lets see how that goes | 08:51 |
| gibi | the generic one is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/12/specs/newton/approved/versioned-notification-transformation.rst L224 | 08:51 |
| gibi | the delete does not add to it | 08:51 |
| gibi | the create will for example | 08:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess thats my question, what info does it need beyond the instance payload, really? | 08:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L1858 | 08:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | so it does image name | 08:52 |
| gibi | to see that we have to go through all the instance action notifications and collect the extra pieces | 08:52 |
| gibi | yes, instance.create puts the image name | 08:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | but thats silly, its already in the instance payload, or should be | 08:52 |
| gibi | image_ref_url is in the generic payload | 08:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that should be enough | 08:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | for most uses | 08:53 |
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| gibi | can we decide not to send image_name in instance.create any more in the versioned notification? | 08:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | I wonder if we want an "action target uuid", to hold the volume uuid on attach, the image uuid on rebuild (and maybe create) | 08:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: we can totally do that | 08:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | its a new version | 08:54 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: OK then I will aim to have only a single generic payload for instance action for now | 08:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gibi: its worth a try at least | 08:55 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: and let's see where it breaks | 08:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 08:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am betting on resize | 08:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | although target flavor might be enough... | 08:55 |
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| gibi | anyhow we can use the generic as much as possible and add new payload extension where it is necessary like resize | 08:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gibi: yeah, I think resize might work now, but I could see that working for most things | 08:56 |
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| gibi | good, let's try this | 08:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Re-Propose Expose quiesce/unquiesce API https://review.openstack.org/295595 | 08:57 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: btw could you help getting the transformation spec merged? :) | 08:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: heh, yeah, I need to go look at the those, you got the link again? | 08:58 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Hi, I've updated the spec, please check again if it is good enough or not | 08:59 |
| gibi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/ | 09:00 |
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| cdent | gibi: have you seen this: http://markmail.org/message/dpv7px7caozmoj44 Raises a lot of related points to what my mail message is supposed to be about if I ever around to it | 09:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Re-Propose Expose quiesce/unquiesce API https://review.openstack.org/295595 | 09:07 |
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| gibi | cdent: thanks for the link, I think the author has good point. However I think we shall go back in time and see why we are created the spec process and use that to find a new solution for the problem | 09:10 |
| gibi | cdent: I agree that we have a problem but if we make a solution based on the current problem we might miss the original problem we tried to solve with the specs | 09:11 |
| cdent | Oh yeah, I'm not suggesting that Nova kill specs. I think that would be a disaster for the volume of work that Nova aspires to process. I simply pointed it out because some of the issues presented there are aligned with some of what we were saying | 09:11 |
| cdent | yes, def | 09:11 |
| gibi | cdent: I agree. | 09:14 |
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| gibi | cdent: I dont remember the original discussion when we decided to go for specs but that would be good to re-read | 09:15 |
| * cdent nods | 09:16 | |
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| cdent | About once a week I think "I need more clones" | 09:16 |
| cdent | s/About/At least/ | 09:16 |
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| gibi | I think we need a CloningaaS | 09:22 |
| * johnthetubaguy confused at "about once a week" | 09:23 | |
| johnthetubaguy | I thought that was an hourly thing | 09:24 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: it's cuz I'm a noob. I'm sure I'll catch up eventually, but at the moment I actually manage to experience small intervals of focused attention | 09:24 |
| cdent | they're getting smaller and smaller | 09:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats a problem | 09:25 |
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| cdent | I might start wearing a metaphorical suite of razor blades to protect that attention | 09:26 |
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| cdent | suit! but I guess suite works too | 09:27 |
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| gibi | sometimes sitting in a dark room without network is the best place to make some progress | 09:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize imagebackend libvirt options (2) https://review.openstack.org/309246 | 09:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize imagecache libvirt options (3) https://review.openstack.org/309255 | 09:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize lvm libvirt options (4) https://review.openstack.org/309271 | 09:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize utils libvirt options (5) https://review.openstack.org/309274 | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize vif libvirt options (6) https://review.openstack.org/309287 | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize volume libvirt options (7) https://review.openstack.org/309296 | 09:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize aoe vol libvirt options (8) https://review.openstack.org/309300 | 09:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize glusterfs libvirt options (9) https://review.openstack.org/309307 | 09:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize iscsi libvirt options (10) https://review.openstack.org/309315 | 09:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize iser libvirt options (11) https://review.openstack.org/309329 | 09:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize volume net libvirt options (12) https://review.openstack.org/309342 | 09:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize volume nfs libvirt options (13) https://review.openstack.org/309349 | 09:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize quobyte libvirt options (14) https://review.openstack.org/309353 | 09:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize scality libvirt options (15) https://review.openstack.org/309357 | 09:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize smbfs libvirt options (16) https://review.openstack.org/309360 | 09:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize remotefs libvirt options (end) https://review.openstack.org/309363 | 09:57 |
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| * hieulq feel tired of rebase and worry about jenkin and zuul health | 09:59 | |
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| hieulq | johnthetubaguy: sorry for make you re-approve again and again | 10:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hieulq: I am only sorry thats been such a rebase problem | 10:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | hieulq: hopefully we get a few more in this time! | 10:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 10:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova-specs: Persist libvirt instance storage metadata https://review.openstack.org/302117 | 10:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova: Fix inappropriate notification send https://review.openstack.org/312887 | 10:18 |
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| oomichi_ | alex_xu: hi, | 10:32 |
| oomichi_ | alex_xu: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/remove-legacy-v2-api-code ? | 10:32 |
| oomichi_ | alex_xu: I put some comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312314/ | 10:33 |
| oomichi_ | and some patches seem ready to be reviewed | 10:33 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi_: thanks, i will update soon | 10:43 |
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| oomichi_ | alex_xu: thanks, and happy if you take a look at the other patches also :) | 10:43 |
| krypto | hello in ioops filter how is iops calculated? i have done hypervisor-show on hypervisor but couldn't see any field for iops | 10:43 |
| alex_xu | oomichi_: yea, will try to review those unittest remove patch | 10:44 |
| oomichi_ | alex_xu: thanks again :-) | 10:44 |
| alex_xu | oomichi_: np | 10:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove the legacy v2 API entry from api-paste.ini https://review.openstack.org/312314 | 10:51 |
| alex_xu | oomichi_: ^ updated | 10:51 |
| oomichi_ | alex_xu: thanks, +2 | 10:52 |
| alex_xu | oomichi_: thanks :) | 10:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hieulq: did you see you have some jenkins failures now? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309307 | 11:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize imagebackend libvirt options (2) https://review.openstack.org/309246 | 11:21 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize imagecache libvirt options (3) https://review.openstack.org/309255 | 11:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from unit/api/openstack/compute/test_block_device_mapping.py https://review.openstack.org/308120 | 11:28 |
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| abhishek | alaski: hi you around? | 11:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from unit/api/openstack/compute/test_block_device_mapping.py https://review.openstack.org/308120 | 11:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[q-v] https://review.openstack.org/311656 | 11:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n] https://review.openstack.org/311658 | 11:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove Limits dependency of legacy v2 API code https://review.openstack.org/312909 | 11:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove fping dependency on legacy v2 API code https://review.openstack.org/312910 | 12:04 |
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| sfinucan | danpb: Got a few moments for some questions on the NUMA stuff? | 12:30 |
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| sfinucan | Would like to know if, by itself (i.e. without pinning), it's beneficial for performance or not | 12:30 |
| danpb | sfinucan: yep, it certainly should benefit performance | 12:30 |
| danpb | sfinucan: it ensures that the guests avoid hitting the cross node inter connect | 12:31 |
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| danpb | sfinucan: when accessing memory which is a really good thing in general | 12:31 |
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| sfinucan | danpb: So would it be fair to say that the CPU processes are still "floating", but they're only floating on cores from a single NUMA node? | 12:32 |
| danpb | sfinucan: eg, say you have 4 numa nodes, and each node has 10 GB/s local memory bandwidth, and there's a shared 10 GB/s remote node interconnect | 12:32 |
| danpb | sfinucan: if all your guests are accessing local memory, then the host can sustain 40 GB/s memory access | 12:32 |
| danpb | sfinucan: if all your guests are cross-nodes then the host can only sustain 10 GB/s in total in worst case | 12:32 |
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| danpb | so the NUMA placement, where CPUs float only within the choosen node, will ensure we maximize use of local memory | 12:33 |
| sfinucan | danpb: Excellent. That's exactly what I wanted to know | 12:34 |
| danpb | it'll also ensure guest performance is consistent on each run, because it won't randomly be switching between local & remote memory, where the latter has higher access latency | 12:34 |
| sfinucan | danpb: I thought it would only take effect when pinning was in place, but it now seems like pinning "builds upon" the NUMA stuff | 12:35 |
| danpb | yeah, that's correct | 12:35 |
| danpb | NUMA node placement was the first feature implemented | 12:35 |
| sfinucan | danpb: Consistent if that's the only workload on those cores, I guess? | 12:35 |
| danpb | the strict CPU pinning then came afterwards | 12:35 |
| sfinucan | danpb: Lovely | 12:35 |
| danpb | sfinucan: its consistent in that say memory access will always be 10ns, not randomly either 10ns or 15ns (picking those numbers out of the air) | 12:36 |
| sfinucan | danpb: Ah, yes. Of course | 12:36 |
| danpb | if you get pre-empted due to over-committing CPUs then that's a separate matter | 12:36 |
| sfinucan | danpb: I'm half way though documenting this for the admin guide as it doesn't appear to be documented in detail yet | 12:37 |
| sfinucan | ...outside of third-party blogs, that is | 12:37 |
| sfinucan | So if you've any links to blogs you may have written on the matter, they'd would be appreciated | 12:37 |
| danpb | hmm, there are some docs around, but they might be red hat openstack docs, lemme go check | 12:38 |
| sfinucan | I'll hunt them down myself eventually anyway :) | 12:38 |
| sfinucan | danpb: Good stuff. Appreciate it | 12:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely https://review.openstack.org/311653 | 12:42 |
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| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: Random thought: Have you planned any formalised way to link to the support matrix from other docs? | 12:45 |
| sfinucan | example - we have a detailed guide on PCI passthrough, but that's only supported with certain hypervisors | 12:46 |
| sfinucan | IMO it would be good to call this out in the detailed guide (as an admonition?) and link to the support matrix | 12:47 |
| alaski | abhishek: I'm around now | 12:47 |
| abhishek | alski: hi, could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/3 | 12:47 |
| abhishek | alaski: had a discussion with you in summit in contributors meetup about this | 12:48 |
| alaski | ahh, yes. Thanks for reminding me, I will take a look | 12:49 |
| abhishek | alaski: thank you, | 12:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anthony PERARD proposed openstack/nova: contrib: Add vif-bridge-nova-network script for Xen https://review.openstack.org/201257 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Anthony PERARD proposed openstack/nova: libvirt-xen: Add xen_vif_bridge_script_path config option https://review.openstack.org/199093 | 12:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: ish, there are URLs added in the ini file | 13:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: its not perfect, but its a starting point | 13:03 |
| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: URLs that point to the detailed docs? | 13:03 |
| sfinucan | or the other way round | 13:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Hironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from tests/unit/conductor/tasks/test_live_migrate.py(4) https://review.openstack.org/312589 | 13:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: URLs in the ini file, pointing to the doc URLs | 13:04 |
| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: OK, cool | 13:05 |
| sfinucan | So if I'm doing docs for NUMA stuff, I guess it's OK to use a 'warning' admonition for lack on support outside libvirt | 13:05 |
| sfinucan | ...until we come up with something better, that is | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264719/7/doc/source/feature_classification.ini@45 | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | roughly, I will try formalize that a bit more | 13:05 |
| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: Yeah, I'd be thinking about the other way round | 13:06 |
| sfinucan | maybe that doesn't belong in the individual docs though... | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the best way I could think of proving you had docs was just to link straight to them | 13:07 |
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| sfinucan | yeah, that sounds fair | 13:07 |
| sfinucan | I'll just drop the admonition when we get the support matrix in place | 13:08 |
| sfinucan | ...and update the support matrix with links to said docs | 13:08 |
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| alaski | dansmith: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291161/6 your concern, ignoring the msgpack stuff, is that conductor calls to compute which then goes async and casts back to conductor? It should be calls from conductor->compute with no cast back right? | 13:17 |
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| dansmith | alaski: it didn't look like he had actually changed the flow at all, but rather just bounced every call through conductor instead, but I was just quickly skimming it in the room | 13:32 |
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| dansmith | alaski: the msgpack stuff is fatal though of course | 13:32 |
| alaski | yeah, I just talked with him about using objects | 13:32 |
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| dansmith | even still, persisting it on the compute node in a file like that probably requires some serious discussion of the impacts | 13:33 |
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| alaski | agreed. Looking at it now it's not entirely clear to me why that's there | 13:35 |
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| dansmith | alaski: yeah, it wasn't to me either, but I was skimming | 13:38 |
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| dansmith | ugh, cellsv1 is breaking on my keypairs patch | 13:41 |
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| alaski | it's about time those tests did something useful | 13:42 |
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| dansmith | hey now! | 13:42 |
| dansmith | alaski: http://logs.openstack.org/51/312751/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-cells/5f4c3d0/logs/screen-n-cell-child.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-05-04_21_51_16_886 | 13:42 |
| dansmith | I'm guessing it's deobjectifying something | 13:42 |
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| mriedem | ValueError: An object of type KeyPairList is required in field keypairs, not a | 13:43 |
| alaski | heh, cuts off right before being truly informative | 13:43 |
| mriedem | must be None | 13:43 |
| mriedem | we need an o.vo release https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/commit/788e3d08f7d073acb9a9958b4e474c9d51da934d | 13:44 |
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| mriedem | rlrossit: have you seen 85dcf71 in oslo.versionedobjects? might be useful for cleaning up test code in nova | 13:52 |
| mriedem | like in your neutron floating ip object series | 13:52 |
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| dansmith | alaski: yeah, I'm missing where cells_api gets in the way of this build stuff | 13:53 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: so I made one that made things easier to compare against db objects | 13:54 |
| rlrossit | instead of paying attention to changes and other things in the primitive | 13:55 |
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| alaski | dansmith: I don't think it's cells_api, it's in the cells scheduler when it creates the instance in a child cell | 13:55 |
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| alaski | still tracing | 13:55 |
| dansmith | yeah, I see we pop a bunch of similar things out | 13:55 |
| dansmith | but... presumably we need to do a thing here | 13:55 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: that's what the lift of compare_obj() from nova to o.vo was about | 13:56 |
| rlrossit | except I realized it doesn't do comparison very well, so I improved it here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301773/ to work for some of my dict compat changes | 13:57 |
| mriedem | nova meeting in 3 minutes | 13:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add keypairs to instance_extra https://review.openstack.org/312749 | 13:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Create Instances with keypairs https://review.openstack.org/312751 | 13:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add keypairs to Instance object https://review.openstack.org/312750 | 13:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add Keypairs to the API database https://review.openstack.org/312755 | 13:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make Keypair object favor the API database https://review.openstack.org/312756 | 13:57 |
| dansmith | alaski: that pops keypairs out.. I'll see what it looks like to see if I can reconstruct it enough to be usable | 13:57 |
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| alaski | okay. Just looking at the changes I don't see why keypairs would be in that dict used for the instance.update | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Centralize vif,xenpool & vol_utils config options https://review.openstack.org/302446 | 14:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akira YOSHIYAMA proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support Ironic console logging capability https://review.openstack.org/312993 | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Add a lock() context manager to image backend https://review.openstack.org/279625 | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Rename Raw backend to NoBacking https://review.openstack.org/279626 | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Introduce ImageCacheLocalPool https://review.openstack.org/279669 | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove fake_imagebackend.Raw and cleanup dependent tests https://review.openstack.org/267661 | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Rename Image.check_image_exists to Image.exists() https://review.openstack.org/270998 | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated option libvirt.remove_unused_kernels https://review.openstack.org/265886 | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Only attempt to inject files if the injection disk exists https://review.openstack.org/250872 | 14:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Add FK bw_usage_cache.uuid -> instances.uuid https://review.openstack.org/248780 | 14:30 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add prep-for-network-aware-scheduling spec https://review.openstack.org/313001 | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I just got the spec up and blueprint created for the neutron work, after having a little poke around in that area: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/prep-for-network-aware-scheduling | 14:32 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: sweet | 14:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Add pycrypto explicitly https://review.openstack.org/313002 | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think I need to bug jroll and understand ironic and user specified ports at some point soon | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | user created ports, rather | 14:33 |
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| jroll | johnthetubaguy: as in, --net port_id=foo? | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: yeah, I don't see how the mac address gets set correctly when you do that | 14:33 |
| dims | pumaranikar : please see https://review.openstack.org/313002 | 14:33 |
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| jroll | johnthetubaguy: right, so it's basically unsupported, though idk off hand exactly what we do | 14:34 |
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| pumaranikar | dims, thanks :) | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: i think it just breaks right now, you get a port that can't be attached, does that sound correct? | 14:35 |
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| jroll | johnthetubaguy: I think so, I could also totally see us just munging the mac | 14:36 |
| jroll | in the port-update call | 14:36 |
| jroll | but I think it just breaks | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: yeah, I think thats what I need to work, changing the mac at the same time as binding to a host | 14:36 |
| danpb | sfinucan: ok, so the only docs are the red hat product docs on numa, and then steve gordon's various blog posts | 14:36 |
| danpb | sfinucan: http://redhatstackblog.redhat.com/2015/05/05/cpu-pinning-and-numa-topology-awareness-in-openstack-compute/ http://redhatstackblog.redhat.com/2015/09/15/driving-in-the-fast-lane-huge-page-support-in-openstack-compute/ | 14:36 |
| danpb | sfinucan: and of course the specs | 14:36 |
| jroll | johnthetubaguy: oh, check _plug_vifs in our driver, we match on mac address, so it just doesn't tell irnoic about the neutron ports and everything presumably blows up in a ball of fire | 14:37 |
| sfinucan | danpb: Excellent | 14:37 |
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| sfinucan | Thanks very much for researching that for me | 14:37 |
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| sfinucan | danpb: Preliminary doc is up if you're interested, but it's not complete so can be held off https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312959/ | 14:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jroll: yeah, that sounds right... I suspect I have to do something to fix that | 14:39 |
| jroll | johnthetubaguy: I haven't read your spec yet, but we are planning out completely refactoring how that stuff works | 14:40 |
| jroll | johnthetubaguy: you may want to chat with sambetts and see if he has thoughts here | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: sounds like I should, my plan is basically always do a port update in allocate_for_instance, it will always have been created elsewhere | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | I say my plan, but you know what I mean | 14:41 |
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| jroll | johnthetubaguy: oh, that should work fine, assuming mac address can actually be updated | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Create Instances with keypairs https://review.openstack.org/312751 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add Keypairs to the API database https://review.openstack.org/312755 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make Keypair object favor the API database https://review.openstack.org/312756 | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Make 'debug' option reconfigurable in Nova https://review.openstack.org/280851 | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Kekane proposed openstack/nova: Set migration status to 'error' on live-migration failure https://review.openstack.org/215483 | 14:56 |
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| rbradfor | sdague, I'd like to help with the api docs sprint next week, specifically in the example verification | 14:58 |
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| sdague | rbradfor: great | 14:59 |
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| sdague | rbradfor: I'd say just dive straight in | 14:59 |
| lxsli | mriedem: can you help me with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248780 please? When I try to run my test, nova/objects/bandwidth_usage.py:118 says "no such table: bw_usage_cache" | 14:59 |
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| rbradfor | sdague, was setting up a few compute notes to run commands manually to compare with set output now, do you have a specific test harness to produce matching output (e.g. openstack.example.com is easy, what about host-ids etc) | 15:01 |
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| sdague | rbradfor: the contents of the examples are produced by the api samples testing | 15:02 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: mdbooth made the changes I wanted, so I'm good on that spec now | 15:05 |
| sdague | rbradfor: I need to work through a couple of issues locally, then we can chat about it in detail if you like | 15:05 |
| rbradfor | sdague, are you able to point me to how to run/review api samples testing? | 15:05 |
| rbradfor | sdague, sure ping me later. | 15:05 |
| rbradfor | sdague, I see tox api-samples, I just fixed there is some prep work before that. | 15:06 |
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| mriedem | lxsli: dansmith: hmm, do we always expect people to run nova-manage db online_data_migrations before nova-manage db sync? | 15:07 |
| dansmith | mriedem: after | 15:08 |
| dansmith | has to be after | 15:08 |
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| alaski | should online migrations be gated on the db being at a certain version? | 15:09 |
| mriedem | well, so see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248780/ | 15:09 |
| mriedem | the previous patch set was deleting orphaned rows before changing the schema | 15:09 |
| mriedem | that cleanup was moved to an online data migration | 15:09 |
| lxsli | rpodolyaka seemed to think the machinery managed this | 15:09 |
| mriedem | but we don't enforce anywhere that you're doing that online data migration before running that db migration script | 15:10 |
| mriedem | lxsli: generally we have a check in the db migration script that makes it fail if you haven't done the online data migration yet | 15:10 |
| dansmith | mriedem: commented | 15:11 |
| dansmith | mriedem: this'll have to be split across N and O I think | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Do not register notification objects https://review.openstack.org/309454 | 15:11 |
| dansmith | mriedem: all our other online migrations have to run after the db_sync.. if you put one in that runs before, you'll lock it all up | 15:11 |
| mriedem | lxsli: as for why the test fails, i think you're using the API DB engine | 15:12 |
| mriedem | not the nova cell db engine | 15:12 |
| lxsli | whoops | 15:12 |
| mriedem | bw_usage_cache isn't in the API DB schema | 15:12 |
| dansmith | we could do the thing alaski suggests to skip things that can't run, but I think it's majorly a bad idea to tell people they have to run online migrations before the real one, after the real one, and again after you've started all your service | 15:12 |
| alaski | yeah, I was more thinking just in case of an accident, not in order to run it all the time | 15:13 |
| alaski | let's just have operators run it every minute with cron | 15:14 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i think the only weirdness about this one is it's not going to be hit during normal operations in newton i don't think | 15:14 |
| dansmith | yeah, we could just to make the failure case smarter if they do it out of order, but .. that's separate from this | 15:14 |
| mriedem | becuase these bw usage records are orphaned since the instances are deleted | 15:14 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: meaning you don't expect anyone will actually have this cruft in their database? | 15:14 |
| mriedem | if they are using xen i'm sure they could | 15:14 |
| dansmith | mriedem: previously the way we handled that was enforce in code in N-1 and then drop the hammer in N | 15:14 |
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| mriedem | yeah you know what else, | 15:16 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L2003 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Julian proposed openstack/nova-specs: instance.create notifications should emit with scheduler hints https://review.openstack.org/312169 | 15:16 |
| mriedem | we don't even delete related bw_usage_cache when we delete the instance | 15:16 |
| mriedem | lxsli: ^ | 15:16 |
| mriedem | so adding the fkey will actually cause archive to fail | 15:16 |
| dansmith | right, so we should add the cleanup online migration, fix the destroy code, and then land the FK in O | 15:16 |
| lxsli | oh good catch | 15:17 |
| mriedem | dansmith: but you said the online data migration happens after the db sync | 15:17 |
| dansmith | right | 15:18 |
| mriedem | so i'm a bit confused about ordering, because this online data migration isn't going to be hit by online code as far as i can tell | 15:18 |
| dansmith | so in N, they run the online migration to clean up cruft they have now, and we fix destroy so it doesn't create any more | 15:18 |
| mriedem | i.e. these records are already garbage | 15:18 |
| mriedem | oh i get it now | 15:18 |
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| mriedem | so i upgrade from mitaka to newton, run the online data migrations (for newton), then db sync (for newton), then when newton->ocata, i do it all over again, but the ocata db sync adds the FK | 15:19 |
| dansmith | aye | 15:19 |
| mriedem | well yar har matey | 15:19 |
| mriedem | lxsli: so you can land 2 patches now | 15:19 |
| mriedem | and 1 in 6 months :) | 15:19 |
| lxsli | o7 | 15:20 |
| dansmith | hah | 15:20 |
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| zzzeek | heya, totally dumb nova question. Why is there an import for "Crypto.PublicKey" in nova/crypto.py but no "pycrypto" in requirements.txt? is this just a bug ? | 15:21 |
| mriedem | zzzeek: someone reported a bug for that yesterday | 15:21 |
| jroll | zzzeek: I think it's an implicit dep pulled in by something else (thus missing from reqs.txt) | 15:21 |
| jroll | I remember hearing something about it, I think it was paramiko | 15:22 |
| zzzeek | mriedem: OK then I am not crazy | 15:22 |
| mriedem | zzzeek: yeah and pycrypto is being replaced by the cryptography lib i think? | 15:22 |
| jroll | which switched from py... yeah that | 15:22 |
| zzzeek | mriedem: ah cryptography no longer uses it, so it vanished. right | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds post-copy live migration support to Nova https://review.openstack.org/301509 | 15:22 |
| zzzeek | odd that the gates/build servers didn't go crazy though | 15:23 |
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| mriedem | zzzeek: dims put a transition shim in i think | 15:23 |
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| mriedem | to handle either lib | 15:23 |
| mriedem | someone must have closed the pycrypto reqs bug in the last 45 minutes because i saw it this morning | 15:23 |
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| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1578047 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578047 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "missing python library pycrypto in requireements.txt" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Davanum Srinivas (DIMS) (dims-v) | 15:24 |
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| zzzeek | mriedem: thanks | 15:24 |
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| BobBall | danpb: This is the requested post-summit ping on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280099/ :) | 15:24 |
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| mriedem | BobBall: have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1574531 ? | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1574531 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "XenAPI dosen't support GPT partition table" [Undecided,New] | 15:25 |
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| BobBall | mriedem: Yeah. It's a nice one. | 15:26 |
| danpb | BobBall: heh, oh yes, | 15:26 |
| BobBall | mriedem: I'm not overly concerned at the moment; there's a very simple workaround - don't try and use images with a GPT partition table :) | 15:27 |
| BobBall | danpb: Thanks :P | 15:28 |
| mriedem | dims: what about pycryptodome in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313002/ ? | 15:28 |
| mriedem | which is a fork of pycrypto | 15:28 |
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| dansmith | alaski: it is None and popping it out fixes it | 15:30 |
| melwitt | the logstash job queue looks ... odd | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Create Instances with keypairs https://review.openstack.org/312751 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add Keypairs to the API database https://review.openstack.org/312755 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make Keypair object favor the API database https://review.openstack.org/312756 | 15:31 |
| mriedem | melwitt: it's going to crash | 15:31 |
| mriedem | and then rebuild | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve Scheduler Logging https://review.openstack.org/306647 | 15:31 |
| alaski | dansmith: odd. how did it get in there? | 15:31 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313002/ | 15:31 |
| mriedem | oops | 15:31 |
| mriedem | melwitt: http://logstash.openstack.org/elasticsearch/_cluster/health?pretty=true | 15:31 |
| dansmith | alaski: I dunno, I still don't see the linkage between the compute api and that dict | 15:32 |
| dansmith | I have to re-figure it out every time | 15:32 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i was asking clarkb about that yesterday and he said they are planning to upgrade ES | 15:32 |
| dansmith | and my sinus infection makes my tolerance low today :( | 15:32 |
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| alaski | that dict is an obj_to_primitive of the instance passed in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/compute/api.py#n1196 | 15:33 |
| alaski | ending up at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/cells/scheduler.py#n153 | 15:34 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: cool, thanks | 15:35 |
| melwitt | mriedem: I was trying to search about this IdentityV3UsersTest.test_user_update_own_password fail, feel like I saw it the other day too | 15:36 |
| mriedem | melwitt: same as http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/index.html#1577558 ? | 15:36 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: hm, I don't know. I don't immediately see the connection, will look deeper | 15:38 |
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| sdague | rbradfor: we have a pretty high confidence of the validity of the samples files in doc/api_samples | 15:39 |
| mriedem | melwitt: do you have a link to a job that failed that test? | 15:39 |
| melwitt | mriedem: yes, http://logs.openstack.org/55/274955/11/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-cells/e13da64/console.html | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova-specs: CellsV2 - Move quota tables to the API db https://review.openstack.org/292973 | 15:44 |
| doffm | Reviews especially appreciated on the quota migration spec. | 15:44 |
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| sdague | rbradfor: so the verify api_samples task isn't really about accuracy in the contents of those files | 15:46 |
| rbradfor | sdague, sorry, on call give me a min | 15:46 |
| sdague | ok, no worries | 15:46 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: I'm wondering if we should rename the register_if(False) decorator to be something more... understandable | 15:48 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: crap, looks like you pushed a new patch set for the scheduler filter logging spec while i was commenting on ps8 | 15:48 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: well we can't just outright rename it, but what would you think is more understandable? | 15:49 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: aware of that, but I'm thinking we should call it objectify or something | 15:49 |
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| rlrossit | so register does objectify + register | 15:49 |
| rlrossit | where objectify just does the setter/getter/other bits | 15:49 |
| rlrossit | if I were new to this and saw register_if(False) everywhere, I wonder wtf that's doing | 15:50 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: well, the point was to be able to conditionally register something, not always to just pass False of course | 15:50 |
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| dansmith | i.e. based on config | 15:50 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: totally not arguing that | 15:51 |
| dansmith | but if you want to create an alias that says "just objectify this thing" and make it just call register_if(False) then that's cool | 15:51 |
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| rlrossit | ^ that | 15:51 |
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| mdbooth | Did anybody bring up the Jenkins nova-docs failures? | 15:52 |
| melwitt | mriedem: I think that bug can't be related because it's about v2.0 and the test fail in my job is v3 | 15:52 |
| mdbooth | If so, I missed that | 15:52 |
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| mdbooth | In case this is news, looks like Jenkins is failing all jobs on nova-docs, eg: http://logs.openstack.org/26/279626/9/check/gate-nova-docs/e14ba9e/console.html | 15:54 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: zzzeek did earlier in here | 15:55 |
| mdbooth | k | 15:55 |
| rbradfor | sdague, sorry, back. why do you not care about accuracy of api output? Is it more the methods, arguments and error codes? | 15:55 |
| sdague | rbradfor: because, we already have a validation system for the example output | 15:56 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313002/ | 15:56 |
| rbradfor | sdague, ok. | 15:56 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Thanks | 15:56 |
| sdague | rbradfor: the entire contents of nova/tests/functional/api_sample_tests | 15:57 |
| sdague | is a set of tests that touch the APIs, do things, verify the req / resp against templates, which are also verified against docs/api_samples | 15:58 |
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| sdague | so, except for times where people have overmocked those tests, we know it's accurate data | 15:58 |
| zzzeek | mdbooth: yeah we are looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313002/1 | 15:58 |
| zzzeek | mdbooth: oh you have it | 15:58 |
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| sdague | the important thing from an api-ref perspective is ensuring that every API has some examples | 15:59 |
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| sdague | and they really are related to the thing at hand, and ideally have a little introduction as to conceptually what's happening there | 15:59 |
| dims | mriedem : the idea is that we prefer pycrypto at the moment as all the projects work with it. Several projects failed when pycryptodome was installed. So we have to keep pycrypto as the default. Once we make sure all projects work with pycryptodome (and all transitive dependencies have switched over from pycrypto), then we nuke pycrypto from both global requirements and upperconstraints. | 16:00 |
| dims | mriedem : until then it's pycrypto | 16:01 |
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| dims | if you see the changeid i refer to in the commit message, that was part of effort to make sure we dont fail if someone installs pycryptodome accidentally | 16:01 |
| mriedem | dims: ok so that blocked pycryptodome... | 16:03 |
| dims | y | 16:03 |
| mriedem | b/c pycrypto would be installed first and have provide that import you added | 16:03 |
| mriedem | ok | 16:03 |
| dims | yep | 16:03 |
| mriedem | ok, +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313002/ | 16:04 |
| mriedem | sdague: ^ to fix the docs job | 16:04 |
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| dims | ah you rechecked too :) | 16:04 |
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| sdague | dims: +A | 16:06 |
| dims | thanks sdague | 16:06 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306647, I was defaulting to an empty suppression list in order to minimize operator surprise on upgrades. but I'm happy to default to putting some "simple" filters in the suppression list if that's preferred by cores | 16:07 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: i defer to ops about what they want | 16:07 |
| mriedem | i was worried about the perf impact of logging everything on success | 16:08 |
| mriedem | given what johnthetubaguy and mikal were saying about debug logs in the filters | 16:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I would really rather not log on success | 16:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the wider log says which filters you pass, so that should be covered | 16:09 |
| mriedem | but is that only if you have debug logging disabled? that's where i get confused | 16:09 |
| mriedem | info vs debug logging and what happens on success | 16:09 |
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| cfriesen | so the way I envisioned it is that if you have debug logging enabled then you get everything the same way you do now, but you'd be able to add filters to the suppression list | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | if it's the same as what you get now, then i'm fine | 16:10 |
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| cfriesen | if you raise the logging level then you would also get the debug logs if the overall sched operation failed, and again the suppression list would control which debug logs you got | 16:10 |
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| mriedem | i thought there was going to be a bunch of new debug logging on success if you didn't suppress | 16:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | so regardless of log level, it causes pef impact, or it seemed to | 16:10 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: hmmm...well technically I suppose there would be some new logs in the numatopology filter where there aren't any now | 16:11 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: sure, but those are new debug logs right | 16:11 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: yes | 16:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | so if the logs are on the fail side, I am OK with them | 16:11 |
| mriedem | and only log on success if you've set debug=True for logging | 16:12 |
| mriedem | right? | 16:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so for per filter logs | 16:13 |
| cfriesen | any new debug logs would be emitted if the scheduler filter failed, but the overall scheduler operation could have succeeded | 16:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | I kinda don't want them logging at all in success | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Versioned notification transformation https://review.openstack.org/286675 | 16:13 |
| cfriesen | johnthetubaguy: that was my first proposal, but Jesse Keating said he wanted to be able to get the logs even on success | 16:13 |
| cfriesen | johnthetubaguy: if we want to allow debug logging in nova-scheduler for everything but the filters, then maybe I should change the implementation to use a second flag indicating whether or not debug logs should be unconditional or only on failure | 16:14 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: that's what i'm thinking | 16:14 |
| cfriesen | I'm happy going that route | 16:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | possibly... I should listen to the other meeting I am in | 16:14 |
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| mriedem | honestly, step 1, we can all agree on, | 16:14 |
| mriedem | dump debug logs when we fail, NoValidHost | 16:15 |
| cfriesen | yep | 16:15 |
| mriedem | dumping logs when we fail a filter but still schedule, i think that's separate and complicating this | 16:15 |
| mriedem | and is a config option | 16:15 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: I updated the version notification transformation spec according to your suggestions https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/13 | 16:16 |
| cfriesen | okay, so two config options: 1) dump sched filter debug logs always or only on NoValidHost, 2) filter suppression list that applies always, regardless of config option1 | 16:16 |
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| cfriesen | now, what do we use for defaults for the config options? default to what we think is sane, or default to same behaviour as now? | 16:17 |
| mnestratov|2 | johnthetubaguy: hi, could you please remove your -2 from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182257/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217679 as blueprints are re-approved | 16:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mnestratov: all removed for you | 16:20 |
| mnestratov | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 16:20 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: i prefer sane deaults | 16:26 |
| mriedem | *defaults | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jiri Suchomel proposed openstack/nova: Find out the instance availability zone before creating volume. https://review.openstack.org/225119 | 16:27 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: so...CoreFilter/RamFilter/DiskFilter/ComputeFilter ? | 16:28 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: as far as default list of filters to suppress? | 16:28 |
| cfriesen | yes | 16:28 |
| cfriesen | and default to filter logs only on NoValidHost | 16:28 |
| mriedem | i guess my thinking is you log everything you have on novalidhost | 16:28 |
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| mriedem | simple filters or not | 16:29 |
| cfriesen | then you increase the potential performance hit | 16:29 |
| mriedem | the suppression list in my mind is only something i'd use to avoid noise from success runs | 16:29 |
| melwitt | +1 | 16:29 |
| lxsli | Why do we need logging on success runs? | 16:30 |
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| cfriesen | so suppression list would only apply if the "log only on NoValidHost" is turned off? I had envisioned it apply in general because a) it's easy to correlate the simple filters to the resource tracker logs, and b) if Jay's proposal to do simple filters in the DB goes through we'll lose logging there anyway. | 16:31 |
| cfriesen | lxsli: some of the ops want it so they can figure out "why was this host chosen rather than that one" | 16:31 |
| mriedem | so suppression list would only apply if the "log only on NoValidHost" is turned off? -> yes for me | 16:32 |
| mriedem | idk man, figuring out why a particular host was chosen on success, | 16:32 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: I think if there was better transparency and visibility into the inventory and usage on compute nodes (and shared resource pools) that request from operators would be less priority... | 16:33 |
| mriedem | that seems like a very advanced ask | 16:33 |
| cfriesen | the downside of that is that you then have to do the work of formatting the debug logs for all the filters even if you don't emit them....and I had heard that Rackspace had turned off debug logging in some filters because it was too expensive | 16:33 |
| lxsli | all it'll tell you is that the chosen host matches, not why the not-chosen host was not-chosen | 16:33 |
| mriedem | i really don't want "why was this host chosen rather than that one" a default behavior | 16:33 |
| melwitt | hm, I thought unless you use % formatting in log statements, no formatting should occur if level is not set to debug | 16:34 |
| melwitt | nvm, you are saying they did have debug enabled | 16:34 |
| cfriesen | melwitt: the whole point of this feature is storing up the debug logs somewhere (which implies formatting them) but only emitting them if we get a NoValidHost. | 16:34 |
| cfriesen | I had thought about whether we could just store the format string and arguments, but then we run the risk of mutable data causing problems I think | 16:35 |
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| lxsli | Haskell, it's the only way to be sure | 16:35 |
| cfriesen | lol | 16:35 |
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| lxsli | if you str() each argument you could hold it pre-formatting without risk of it mutating? | 16:36 |
| cfriesen | yeah, maybe. but I'm guessing that's a good chunk of the formatting cost in some cases. | 16:37 |
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| lxsli | In general, yes, we can hope for simple values here I think | 16:38 |
| cfriesen | I'm happy to start with the suppression list only applying if the "log only on NoValidHost" is turned off. If it turns out to be problematic we can make it apply also when it's turned on. | 16:38 |
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| lxsli | Could we have a version without either flag or suppression list, then add them for v2? | 16:39 |
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| lxsli | when we know which extra messages they'll turn on/off and hence whether they'll serve the operators' usecase? | 16:39 |
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| cfriesen | So my initial view was that these would literally just control the output of the filter debug logs. And the second part of the blueprint is to add some new logs if there are failure modes that don't currently emit a useful log | 16:41 |
| cfriesen | but those would just be regular debug logs as well. | 16:41 |
| cfriesen | Then in the sched filters *all* debug logs would be affected by the two new config options. | 16:41 |
| lxsli | how I'd split it would be 1) save up (all) sched filter debug logs and only emit on NoValidHost | 16:42 |
| lxsli | 2) add extra debugging to EG NUMAFilter | 16:42 |
| lxsli | 3) think about how to answer "why was this host chosen?" | 16:42 |
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| lxsli | also, possibly, why operators feel they need to care | 16:45 |
| cfriesen | what about the suppression filter? the intent there was to minimize the performance hit for the trivial filters since I don't think we need to print out debug logs for all the compute nodes if 90% of them don't have enough ram, or something. | 16:45 |
| cfriesen | otherwise we'll get at least one log per compute node (and likely more) on every sched failure | 16:46 |
| lxsli | It can be step 1.5 I guess, if it's needed after step 1 | 16:46 |
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| lxsli | I'm kinda hoping sched failures are rare enough that step 1 saves us far more than a suppression filter would | 16:46 |
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| edleafe | The question, though, is why wasn't a particular host chosen, not why wasn't *any* host chosen | 16:47 |
| edleafe | That involves weighers, too, not just filters | 16:47 |
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| cfriesen | lxsli: but we pay the performance penalty of formatting those error messages even on the success case | 16:47 |
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| cfriesen | the suppression filter was intended to reduce the cost of the success case | 16:48 |
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| lxsli | cfriesen: I thought the main thrust was to enhance debuggability and the performance side was a mitigation | 16:48 |
| lxsli | if the performance is a serious issue then sure but maybe they should be separate specs? | 16:49 |
| cfriesen | lxsli: yes...but at least some operators are turning off sched filter debug logs due to the performance hit. So I was trying to find a way to let them log the "interesting" filters without taking the hit on the "boring" filters. | 16:49 |
| lxsli | OK, I'm not opposed to the suppression filter, it just didn't seem a priority compared to the other work :) | 16:50 |
| cfriesen | fair enough | 16:50 |
| lxsli | edleafe: ++ computers are not good at saying why; or rather, we find their explanations exhausti(ve/ng) | 16:51 |
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| doffm | edleafe: To decide why a particular host wasn't chosen you would need *alot* of info right? I mean practially the entire resource list. | 16:57 |
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| edleafe | doffm: exactly. If there was a way to simply say "only log actions related to host X" it wouldn't be so bad | 16:58 |
| edleafe | doffm: but if you have hundreds or thousands of hosts... ugh | 16:59 |
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| smcginnis | mriedem: We had to redo our Cinder midcycle plans. We're now the same week as Nova. Can we set a block to do a midcycle to midcycle session again? | 17:01 |
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| mriedem | sure | 17:01 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Seemed to work pretty well last time. | 17:02 |
| mriedem | should be pretty flexible if we're both in the US | 17:02 |
| mriedem | btw, trump usa #1 | 17:02 |
| * smcginnis shakes head | 17:02 | |
| sdague | smcginnis: where is cinder meeting? | 17:03 |
| smcginnis | sdague: We're going to be in Ft Collins, CO. So just a one hour difference this time. | 17:03 |
| sdague | smcginnis: cool | 17:03 |
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| smcginnis | Yeah. We tried to avoid doing the same week, but it might actually be better this way. | 17:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add Keypairs to the API database https://review.openstack.org/312755 | 17:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make Keypair object favor the API database https://review.openstack.org/312756 | 17:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add online migration to store keypairs with instances https://review.openstack.org/313060 | 17:03 |
| smcginnis | Except for anyone that wanted to attend both. | 17:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add online migration to store keypairs with instances https://review.openstack.org/313060 | 17:06 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith, doffm: so, is the keypairs table being moved up to the API database with cellsv2? | 17:17 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: yeah | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/nova: Disable IPv6 on bridge devices for LinuxBridgeManager https://review.openstack.org/313070 | 17:18 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: k, so the child cell DB's instance_extra.keypairs column will just store a cache of the instance's keypairs, yes? | 17:18 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: instead of always pulling from the api db?> | 17:18 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: it'll be the one keypair you booted the instance with | 17:18 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: we'll never upcall to the api db to get keypairs | 17:19 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: when you boot, it'll get the keypair from the list in the api db, and it'll pass along to the cell with the instance and be stored there | 17:19 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: and for existing instances? | 17:19 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: online migration to fix it up in batches | 17:20 |
| jaypipes | gotcha. | 17:20 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: final question... | 17:20 |
| dansmith | see 10:06 in this channel :) | 17:20 |
| dansmith | or 13:06 for you | 17:20 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: on 312750, line 317 of nova/api/metadata/base.py I still see the "if cells_opts.get_cell_type() == 'compute':" block grabbing the keypair from the API database.. | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: ah, perhaps I haven't gotten far enough into the patch series then... | 17:21 |
| dansmith | that's cellsv1 you know | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | yes I know.. | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | oh... | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | wait. | 17:21 |
| * dansmith waits | 17:23 | |
| jaypipes | no, it's me that needs to wait :) | 17:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve Scheduler Logging https://review.openstack.org/306647 | 17:23 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: back to your regularly scheduled business, sir. | 17:23 |
| dansmith | heh, okay | 17:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Add FK bw_usage_cache.uuid -> instances.uuid https://review.openstack.org/248780 | 17:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Delete BandwidthUsage rows with instances https://review.openstack.org/313072 | 17:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup orphaned BandwidthUsage rows https://review.openstack.org/313073 | 17:24 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: is the idea to eventually deprecate and remove instances.key_name and instances.key_data? | 17:32 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: I would think we'd want to yeah | 17:32 |
| jaypipes | bueno. | 17:32 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: because they aren't enough anymore (because we don't have type) | 17:32 |
| jaypipes | right. | 17:33 |
| jaypipes | and because there should be a one to many relation there, not a one to one :) | 17:33 |
| dansmith | yeah, we can only have one right now, but my patches store a list for that reason exactly | 17:33 |
| jaypipes | noted. | 17:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Add FK bw_usage_cache.uuid -> instances.uuid https://review.openstack.org/248780 | 17:36 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: dansmith: i have some questions in the persist libvirt instance storage metadata spec, so holding back the +2 for now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302117/ | 17:40 |
| mriedem | oops | 17:40 |
| mriedem | s/jaypipes/mdbooth/ | 17:40 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I commented on the object bit | 17:43 |
| dansmith | I think the rest of your assumption-clarifications are correct, but I'll let mdbooth respond to those | 17:44 |
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| doffm | alaski: The quota migration (As currently imagined) is going to be a-lot of work. | 17:51 |
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| alaski | hmm. I haven't looked at that one yet | 17:52 |
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| alaski | what's the difficulty? | 17:53 |
| doffm | Not really a difficulty, just work. There are no versioned objects for quota tables. | 17:54 |
| alaski | ahh, well that's a problem | 17:54 |
| doffm | There is a `Quota` object. But that is just an RPC wrapper around the quota driver. | 17:54 |
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| doffm | I would kind of like reviews on it just to make sure that there isn't an easier way that what I have described. | 17:55 |
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| alaski | Looking at it my first thought would be to use the current object. It's definitely different from other objects in a lot of ways, but would it not serve the same purpose for migrations? | 17:59 |
| doffm | alaski: It ends up as circular code. | 18:00 |
| doffm | QuotaDriver depends on datbase access. | 18:00 |
| doffm | Quota object depends on QuotaDriver. | 18:00 |
| doffm | Putting the database access in the Quota object completes the circle. | 18:01 |
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| mriedem | at what point does the black hole open up? | 18:01 |
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| doffm | Now. Its quotas. I'm already being sucked in. | 18:01 |
| doffm | There is no escape. | 18:02 |
| mriedem | oooo a singularity | 18:02 |
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| alaski | well that's unfortunate | 18:07 |
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| mriedem | can you do the migration in the db quota driver? | 18:08 |
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| doffm | Well, I mean we could do it anywhere. But it would add more logic to an already messy class, and this is being done in the objects for all the other migrations. | 18:12 |
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| mriedem | but the quota object is not like all of the other classes, it's a special snowflake | 18:13 |
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| doffm | Yeah, so I'm proposing creating a new object alongside it, just for database access, like all the other objects. | 18:13 |
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| mriedem | nova.objects.quotas.DBQuotaObjectForRealThisIsTheOne? | 18:14 |
| doffm | mriedem: Exactly! | 18:14 |
| mriedem | so almost exactly like block devifes | 18:14 |
| doffm | I like that name. | 18:14 |
| mriedem | *devices in nova | 18:14 |
| rlrossit | more bikeshedding on object names? | 18:15 |
| rlrossit | call in dansmith | 18:15 |
| mriedem | some are dicts, some are objects, and some wrap objects | 18:15 |
| mriedem | DbQuotaDriverObject i guess | 18:15 |
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| doffm | Spec calls it 'DbQuota' in a db_quota.py file. | 18:15 |
| auggy | i think we should rename anything with the word "usage" as "sausage" | 18:16 |
| doffm | But yeah. 'QuotaForRealzNotThatOtherSillyOne' | 18:16 |
| rlrossit | auggy: +1 | 18:16 |
| auggy | (and now you all will never unsee that) | 18:16 |
| mriedem | personally i'd just do it in the DbQuotaDriver | 18:17 |
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| mriedem | rather than add a new level to that onion | 18:17 |
| doffm | Ok. | 18:17 |
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| doffm | auggy: Quota has a QuotaSausage table. | 18:18 |
| mriedem | or somehow combine the existing quota object with the db quota driver | 18:18 |
| auggy | doffm: YESSSSSS | 18:18 |
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| mriedem | the quota engine would then use the object | 18:19 |
| mriedem | as in nova.objects.quotas.Quotas for db quotas | 18:19 |
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| mriedem | and nova.objects.quotas.QuotasNoOp for noop stuff | 18:19 |
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| mriedem | you'd probably have to merge the noop quota object and drivers too though | 18:20 |
| doffm | Well the quota api IS nova.objets.quotas.Quotas, so that wraps the DbQuotas and NoopQuota drivers. | 18:20 |
| doffm | mriedem: Yeah exactly. | 18:20 |
| alaski | yeah, I would avoid another object as well if possible | 18:20 |
| mriedem | we should have combined these all long ago | 18:21 |
| mriedem | but i don't know if i want to make doing that hold up the quotas migration to the api db | 18:21 |
| alaski | surely there was some rationale for doing it this way | 18:21 |
| doffm | Ok, well let me know in the spec what you prefer. We will have to rethink. | 18:21 |
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| doffm | mriedem: I think it is. | 18:21 |
| mriedem | alaski: well, the quotas stuff came way before objects i think | 18:21 |
| doffm | We should get it right rather than adding to a big mess. | 18:21 |
| alaski | it did | 18:21 |
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| mriedem | alaski: i'm assuming it was just the easy way to get quotas objects in | 18:22 |
| mriedem | in order to not pass the db object all over the place | 18:22 |
| alaski | probably. but what's the benefit of the object in this state | 18:22 |
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| mriedem | doffm: we could totally do the online data migrations in the DbQuotaDriver now, and then merge that into the object later | 18:22 |
| mriedem | the online data migration has to happen regardless | 18:22 |
| mriedem | alaski: the rpc facadd? | 18:23 |
| mriedem | *facade | 18:23 |
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| doffm | mriedem: Thats what it is. An RPC mechanism. | 18:23 |
| doffm | Thats it. | 18:23 |
| mriedem | yes | 18:23 |
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| mriedem | it takes the specs from the customer and gives them to the db | 18:23 |
| doffm | Ha! | 18:23 |
| mriedem | and drops the specs when you restart the service | 18:23 |
| alaski | "NOTE: Quotas likely needs an overhaul and currently doesn't map very well to objects" | 18:24 |
| alaski | sweet | 18:24 |
| mriedem | heh | 18:24 |
| mriedem | is comstud around?! | 18:24 |
| mriedem | conveniently not | 18:24 |
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| alaski | doffm: if you're interested in doing that overhaul that would be great, but in order to not spend all cycle on this I would probably look at the db layer | 18:27 |
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| mriedem | commented in the spec | 18:30 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: we need a quota on quota objects | 18:32 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: exactly | 18:32 |
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| mriedem | and it's 2 | 18:32 |
| rlrossit | where's the admin that can increase that quota? | 18:32 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/302,members | 18:33 |
| rlrossit | we need an external service that can handle quotas | 18:33 |
| rlrossit | someone should write one in cobol | 18:33 |
| doffm | rlrossit: Its not an official openstack language. | 18:34 |
| rlrossit | doffm: lemme go talk to the tc quick | 18:34 |
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| ccarmack | how about in go | 18:34 |
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| mriedem | ha, the radisson forgot to put another night on my receipt | 18:35 |
| mriedem | but they didn't forget to charge my amex | 18:35 |
| rlrossit | mriedem: I had the same thing | 18:35 |
| rlrossit | now I don't know how to handle that | 18:35 |
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| rlrossit | and my second hotel billed me for going to the restaurant. Even though I checked in at 11 pm and checked out at 8 | 18:36 |
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| mriedem | i'm going to just attach this to the receipt that i fax in http://2qdocg2za8g336a8w21fo83z.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/english-verbs-shrug-your-shoulders.jpg | 18:37 |
| rlrossit | fax? | 18:37 |
| doffm | rlrossit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284454/ | 18:37 |
| rlrossit | what's that? | 18:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Jiri Suchomel proposed openstack/nova: Find out the instance availability zone before creating volume. https://review.openstack.org/225119 | 18:38 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: it's what i use while listening to mother love bone | 18:38 |
| mriedem | on CD | 18:38 |
| rlrossit | pardon? | 18:38 |
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| auggy | mriedem: did you know that the drummer for mother love bone, greg gilmore, actually now works in tech in seattle? | 18:43 |
| auggy | fun facts! | 18:44 |
| auggy | ;D | 18:44 |
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| auggy | he was a colleague of a friend of mine at some video game company that got bought by Real Networks | 18:44 |
| mriedem | not surprising | 18:44 |
| mriedem | it would either be that or a coffee shop | 18:44 |
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| mriedem | or a methadone clinic | 18:44 |
| auggy | i should go become friends with him on StinkedIn and show all my connections how cool i am | 18:47 |
| sdague | what a conversation to wander back into the nova channel | 18:47 |
| mriedem | sdague: we made at least one decision in the last hour | 18:47 |
| auggy | mriedem: to rename anything with "usage" as sausage? | 18:48 |
| sdague | http://burndown.dague.org/ for next week's sprint, though it took way too much time to find a suitable example to get this working | 18:48 |
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| sdague | mriedem: and that decision was? | 18:48 |
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| mriedem | sdague: to not add more quotas objects/drivers classes | 18:48 |
| rlrossit | sdague: to put a quota of 2 on quota objects | 18:48 |
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| sdague | man, I need to just start drinking early today :) | 18:49 |
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| doffm | I think the fact that we all started early may have caused this. | 18:50 |
| rlrossit | doffm: have you been irishing up your coffee? | 18:50 |
| rlrossit | mriedem: I think that means you should come join us | 18:51 |
| auggy | coffee stout counts as a breakfast beverage, right? | 18:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n] https://review.openstack.org/311658 | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove Limits dependency of legacy v2 API code https://review.openstack.org/312909 | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove fping dependency on legacy v2 API code https://review.openstack.org/312910 | 19:28 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: around? | 19:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julian proposed openstack/nova-specs: instance.create notifications should emit with scheduler hints https://review.openstack.org/312169 | 20:24 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: yuup | 20:35 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: sorry, just started a meeting for the next hour | 20:35 |
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| edleafe | wanted to talk about some ideas for the qualitative stuff | 20:36 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: :) no prob | 20:36 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: I need to wrap up the generic-resource-pools spec and the allocations one anyway... catch me later. | 20:36 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: kewl | 20:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: New configuration classes to parse device address element https://review.openstack.org/304147 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: attach configdrive after instance spawn https://review.openstack.org/303335 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: db: adding path, serial and address fields to block devices https://review.openstack.org/310615 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: db: adding bus and bus_address to virtual interfaces https://review.openstack.org/310616 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: objects: adding serial, path, bus_address fields to bdm object https://review.openstack.org/310617 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: objects: adding bus and bus_address to virtual interfaces object https://review.openstack.org/310618 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging metadata API support https://review.openstack.org/304511 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging API support https://review.openstack.org/304510 | 20:57 |
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| mikal | Morning | 21:21 |
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| auggy | good morning mikal | 21:26 |
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| jaypipes | alaski: lol, you're too quick :) | 21:29 |
| jaypipes | mikal: morning down there. | 21:29 |
| alaski | jaypipes: heh, I had just seen the email from you adding me | 21:30 |
| jaypipes | :) | 21:30 |
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| jaypipes | dims: safe to recheck now? :) | 21:44 |
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| dims | jaypipes : yep | 22:01 |
| jaypipes | dims: ty sir. | 22:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove fping dependency on legacy v2 API code https://review.openstack.org/312910 | 22:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in test_block_device_mapping_v1.py https://review.openstack.org/308746 | 22:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 tests which use APIRouter https://review.openstack.org/313185 | 23:14 |
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| mikal | edleafe: you still around? | 23:21 |
| mikal | edleafe: I'm reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307496 and am confused, I've left a question for you,. | 23:21 |
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