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| darrenc | Anyone here familar with nova-manage and nova client? | 06:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Completely remove mox from objects/test_instance.py https://review.openstack.org/343465 | 07:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Completely remove mox from objects/test_instance.py https://review.openstack.org/343465 | 07:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 07:08 |
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| fawadkhaliq | hi guys, there used to be a parametes in nova.conf neutron_url_timeout. I don't see it anymore. Seems like it has been removed, can someone share what has replaced it to make the timeout configurable? | 07:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/331996 | 07:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 08:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Report actual request_spec when MaxRetriesExceeded raised https://review.openstack.org/310639 | 09:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | liuxiuli proposed openstack/nova-specs: Clearing memory will be needed after deleting vm https://review.openstack.org/343150 | 09:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Add sample for addFloatingIp action https://review.openstack.org/342744 | 09:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: block_device: Make refresh_conn_infos py3 compatible https://review.openstack.org/342111 | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/nova: Set vnic_type correctly for ironic https://review.openstack.org/339143 | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: compute: Use stashed connector during local deletes https://review.openstack.org/340951 | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Fix the clean up of resize-revert for volume backed instances https://review.openstack.org/329030 | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Use the recreated config disk during a rescue https://review.openstack.org/335884 | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: compute: Skip driver detach calls for non local instances https://review.openstack.org/318266 | 09:50 |
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| lyarwood | ^ morning all, if anyone is able to I'd really appreciate reviews on a few open bug fixes that I currently have | 09:51 |
| lyarwood | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:self+status:open+topic:%255Ebug.*+branch:master+project:openstack/nova | 09:52 |
| lyarwood | argh owner:self, thanks gerrit | 09:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Recover instances when physical data is missing https://review.openstack.org/322341 | 09:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Supplement resume_guests_state bug fix https://review.openstack.org/343542 | 09:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Supplement resume_guests_state bug fix https://review.openstack.org/343542 | 09:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Hua proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: device tagging https://review.openstack.org/333781 | 10:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Make sure destination will rollback if live migration fails https://review.openstack.org/270093 | 10:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/nova: Testing gates. https://review.openstack.org/343569 | 10:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP: Propose to support preemptible instances https://review.openstack.org/104883 | 11:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jinquan Ni proposed openstack/nova: manager:mark a vm that resume failed https://review.openstack.org/289745 | 11:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Refactor instance action notification sample test https://review.openstack.org/342944 | 11:48 |
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| permalac | hello guys, I have several compute nodes that have access to the external API url. I would like to set the bypass_url that the HTTPClient inicialization uses (By default is None) , but I do not know where I can define it. | 12:12 |
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| permalac | I do not know where to set it, just that the HTTPClient __init__ get's it and I don't see from where it comes. | 12:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rafael Folco proposed openstack/nova: Spread instances across NUMA nodes https://review.openstack.org/340569 | 12:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Pass "is_admin_project" param to oslo ResourceContext obj https://review.openstack.org/343618 | 12:41 |
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| swamireddy | hi | 12:56 |
| swamireddy | Iam using arond 100+ VM on my cloud....and yesterday all VMs state set as "paused"....NOT SURE why? can any hint me the reason for VM goes in to pasued state? | 12:57 |
| danpb | usual reason for VMs silently switching to paused is an I/O error on the storage | 12:59 |
| danpb | swamireddy: you can use 'virsh domstate --reason <guest name>' to ask libvirt why the VM is paused | 13:00 |
| danpb | (as root) | 13:00 |
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| AJaeger | OpenStack CI now allows constraints for the coverage job, and I've made a change for your project. You will be one of the first to test that everything works nicely - and I would appreciate quick review and check that results look fine. Please review https://review.openstack.org/343297 | 13:11 |
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| markus_z | Something's odd with the gate: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1603979 | 13:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1603979 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "gate: context tests failed because missing parameter "is_admin_project"" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Tang Chen (tangchen) | 13:32 |
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| gibi | markus_z: I get hit by that but I cannot reproduce it locally | 13:34 |
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| gibi | markus_z: at least not yet | 13:35 |
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| gibi | markus_z: this is the patch that got hit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342944/ | 13:35 |
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| markus_z | gibi: 66 hits/h and mainly today | 13:36 |
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| markus_z | something has to be released over the weekend | 13:36 |
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| rfolco | danpb, thanks for your review. Could you please see my comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340569/ so I take the right direction for the bug fix ? | 13:37 |
| gibi | markus_z: probably yes, I'm trying to rerun the test with a fresh venv | 13:37 |
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| markus_z | gibi: got it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342604/1 | 13:39 |
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| lbeliveau | jaypipes: sahid: we have addressed comments on migration patch with pci, can you please have a second look ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573 | 13:40 |
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| markus_z | gibi: If your venv uses oslo.context 2.6.0, then it should fail | 13:42 |
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| markus_z | gibi: your failed review uses it: http://logs.openstack.org/44/342944/2/check/gate-nova-python27-db/f8076bd/console.html#_2016-07-18_11_55_51_007624 | 13:43 |
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| gibi | markus_z: I see, thanks | 13:44 |
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| gibi | markus_z: Do I understand correctly that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342604 will solve it? | 13:46 |
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| markus_z | gibi: That's my understanding, yes. | 13:47 |
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| gibi | markus_z: but that depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342603/ that is WIP | 13:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Supplement resume_guests_state bug fix https://review.openstack.org/343542 | 13:50 |
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| markus_z | gibi: That already happened with https://github.com/openstack/requirements/commit/238389c4ee1bd3cc9be4931dd2639aea2dae70f1 | 13:52 |
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| markus_z | Line 200 | 13:52 |
| markus_z | Most folks will be at the midcycle in Portland. They will come online in ~2h I guess. | 13:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Refactor instance action notification sample test https://review.openstack.org/342944 | 13:55 |
| gibi | Yeah, we anyhow need them to push the fix through | 13:56 |
| swamireddy | danpb: Thanks...will try this...here.. what is guest_name? is it VM's id? | 13:56 |
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| markus_z | gibi: think so too | 13:56 |
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| danpb | swamireddy: no, its something like instanceNNNNNNN | 13:58 |
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| kevin_zh | danpb: Hi danpb, if you have a mement ,pls help to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336781/, you have given some advice in the earilier patch set.. | 14:03 |
| mriedem | danpb: you might want to weigh in here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342301/ | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | sounds like the pci passthrough whitelist is invalid once a VM starts using a device from it? | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | which sounds crazy | 14:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Microversion 2.35 adds keypairs pagination support https://review.openstack.org/343648 | 14:08 |
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| danpb | mriedem: that seems very odd indeed | 14:10 |
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| danpb | mriedem: i wonder if some refactoring of resource tracker accidentally caused this | 14:10 |
| danpb | mriedem: as i find it hard to imagine this bug has existed the whole time | 14:10 |
| mriedem | shrug | 14:10 |
| mriedem | maybe | 14:10 |
| danpb | as it'd make pci dev assign useless | 14:10 |
| mriedem | alaski: thanks for http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099401.html | 14:10 |
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| swamireddy | danpb: OK..got it - Thanks...during that time, when we got the VMs paused, I had issue with storage cluster and recovery of the cluster is in progress...I guess that might be issue? But storage cluster was in recovery mode almost 10 hours...and the pause issue seen at after 8 hours... | 14:13 |
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| AJaeger | mriedem: could you review my change to use constraints for the coverage job, please? https://review.openstack.org/343297 We've merged fixes to infra - and now like to add projects using it. First tests are fine, so we want to enable some more. | 14:14 |
| danpb | swamireddy: well the VM will only pause once it tries to actually do IO that hits underlying storage, and even then not until the host OS reports the failure | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | AJaeger: coverage is a post queue job right? | 14:15 |
| AJaeger | mriedem: correct | 14:15 |
| mriedem | AJaeger: so i have to pull this down to verify it works | 14:15 |
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| AJaeger | yeah, there's no testing on it in check queue. | 14:16 |
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| AJaeger | But if that one fails, you have other problems ;) | 14:16 |
| swamireddy | danpb: Thats means, once storage is accessable, then pause becomes active state? But our case, we need to do manually resume all VMs from pause state...a bit painful | 14:16 |
| AJaeger | mriedem: latest run of coverage: http://logs.openstack.org/3f/3f700b5a5a498ba08e77378d34f059c3fa6845d8/post/nova-coverage-db/2bdabf8/console.html - so that fails already ;( | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | :( | 14:17 |
| danpb | you need to manually resume the guests if desired, or reboot them - depends on how bad the storage failure was as to ehether it'll be ok | 14:17 |
| AJaeger | but the change might fix it - if constraints help ;) | 14:17 |
| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add image verification spec for Ocata https://review.openstack.org/343654 | 14:18 |
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| AJaeger | mriedem: since my change changes the install command, that's the only thing to test - and the real test is running it in Infra CI. I'm confident that it works but will double check a few merges. | 14:19 |
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| swamireddy | danpb: Thanks for clarification...for this (VM pause state due to storage IO)do we have any document available? | 14:21 |
| mriedem | AJaeger: ok i'll try your change locally quick | 14:22 |
| AJaeger | thanks, mriedem | 14:22 |
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| permalac | hello guys. | 14:28 |
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| permalac | I would like my compute nodes to reach the nova API to an internal VIP , can someone point me out where to define this internal enpoint in the nova.conf files? | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | AJaeger: hitting the same test failures locally with your change, so i opened a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1604022 | 14:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1604022 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-coverage job fails with MismatchError" [High,Confirmed] | 14:33 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, mriedem | 14:34 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: ^ in case osic people are looking for something | 14:34 |
| AJaeger | mriedem: Once that change merges , I'd like to backport it to mitaka as well | 14:38 |
| markus_z | mriedem: That's a duplicate to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1603979 | 14:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1603979 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "gate: context tests failed because missing parameter "is_admin_project"" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Tang Chen (tangchen) | 14:38 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: ok cool | 14:38 |
| markus_z | mriedem: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099467.html | 14:38 |
| mriedem | so it's new? | 14:38 |
| markus_z | yes, from yesterday with release of oslo.context 2.6.0 | 14:39 |
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| markus_z | tonyb has a change for that online | 14:39 |
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| mriedem | oslo.context 2.6.0 was released on 7/13 https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.context | 14:39 |
| mriedem | but ok | 14:39 |
| mriedem | oh i see u-c update | 14:39 |
| markus_z | upper-contraint got bumped | 14:39 |
| mriedem | yup | 14:39 |
| diana_clarke | Does anyone happen to know why the local root disk is excluded from block_device_info? Here's a unit test that demonstrates my question: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343059/ | 14:41 |
| AJaeger | mriedem: and coverage so far does not use upper-constraints ;) My change introduces u-c. | 14:42 |
| diana_clarke | Do you think it was intentionally excluded? | 14:42 |
| mriedem | markus_z: tonyb: that should be a major version change in oslo.context so it should have been 3.0.0 | 14:42 |
| mriedem | markus_z: tonyb: i replied to the dev thread, i'd think we should blacklist 2.6.0 and undo the u-c change | 14:43 |
| mriedem | and make oslo.context release that as 3.0.0 | 14:43 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: tonyb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343683/ | 14:49 |
| mriedem | harlowja: jamielennox|away: fyi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343683/ - that should have been a major version release | 14:51 |
| mriedem | and might require some bridge with using kwargs | 14:51 |
| mriedem | so we don't break everyone while trying to land that | 14:51 |
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| mriedem | rbradfor: ^ | 14:53 |
| gcb | miredem, you are right, we need bump major version | 14:53 |
| rbradfor | mriedem, reading up | 14:53 |
| rbradfor | as per another project, and I have a patch for nova, I propose a forward compatible change to the tests so they don't break using 2.5 or 2.6. | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ronald Bradford proposed openstack/nova: Prepare context tests for new to_dict() attributes https://review.openstack.org/343694 | 15:00 |
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| * mriedem is heading to the airport, see you from gogo inflight - has started arranging https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-newton-midcycle too | 15:16 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: Improve help for SPICE https://review.openstack.org/317046 | 15:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: Improve help for SPICE https://review.openstack.org/317046 | 15:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Guillaume Espanel proposed openstack/nova: Reduce time and memory usage of tenant usage. https://review.openstack.org/343734 | 15:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/333181 | 15:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | yatin proposed openstack/nova: Replace deprecated LOG.warn with LOG.warning https://review.openstack.org/343191 | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | George Silvis, III proposed openstack/nova-specs: Propose resource federation for block devices https://review.openstack.org/342453 | 16:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for xenapi_session_opts https://review.openstack.org/322322 | 16:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for xenapi_opts https://review.openstack.org/343797 | 16:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: live-migration rollback logic in conductor https://review.openstack.org/343803 | 17:00 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: hi, are you around? | 17:20 |
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| stewie925 | hello - I have removed a deprecated option (part of bp/centralized-config-option-newton) and I'd like to ask which tox test do I run to make sure that the changes are good? | 17:29 |
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| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: yes, what's up? | 17:37 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: got question on this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234659/37 | 17:37 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: has libvirt constraints on destination version? | 17:38 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: no, it isn't related to any of libvirt features | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | George Silvis, III proposed openstack/nova-specs: Thanks, Dims https://review.openstack.org/343829 | 17:39 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: therefore no version constraints | 17:40 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: so there should be no pitfalls for live-migration from qemu/libvirt during upgrades,right? | 17:42 |
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| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: yes | 17:42 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: and I assume you are not checking MIN_LIBVIRT_BLOCK_LM_WITH_VOLUMES_VERSION during live-migration itself, because it's being tested on pre-checks | 17:45 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: so this feature is not required for this patch, the point is that if a file is present on destination, it is excluded from a list of files that will be copied to destination | 17:47 |
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| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: it has nothing to do with selective device migration | 17:48 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: ok, what if pre-livemigration fails? | 17:50 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: will rollback clean this? | 17:50 |
| tdurakov | have you tested negative scenario? | 17:50 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: the reason why i removed this check is that it does not help at all, i started to end up with corrupted config drives on destination, therefore i removed the check and used RemoteFS instead | 17:51 |
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| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: sure, it will cleanup everything, from FS perspective it is a regular file, all the magic happens inside Libvirt/QEMU | 17:51 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: as long as rollback removed whole instance path it will also remove config drive file | 17:52 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: rollback removes * | 17:52 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: ok, just wanted to double check all this | 17:52 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: sure, happy to answer your questions | 17:52 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: could you please add comment that describes how is it working, smth like in your message: pkoniszewski> | 17:54 |
| tdurakov | tdurakov: so this feature is not required for this patch, the point is that if a file is present on destination, it is excluded from a list of files that will be copied to destination | 17:54 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: for me it would be enough | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config Options: Improve help text for Ipv6 options https://review.openstack.org/318291 | 17:54 |
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| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: sure, i will | 18:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/333181 | 18:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: [libvirt] Live migration fails when config_drive_format=iso9660 https://review.openstack.org/234659 | 18:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: TEST - DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/337810 | 18:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: TEST - DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/337810 | 18:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: refactor driver's rollback/post calls for live-migration https://review.openstack.org/343852 | 18:32 |
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| jcook | Are there naming conventions specified somewhere for image property inoperability from a nova standpoint somewhere? Pertains to the following: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326073/1 | 18:57 |
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| jcook | s/somewhere?/?/ | 18:58 |
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| mriedem | bv | 19:06 |
| openstackgerrit | George Silvis, III proposed openstack/nova-specs: Propose resource federation for block devices https://review.openstack.org/342453 | 19:07 |
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| edmondsw | mriedem, sdague can you check the comment I just added in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1197459 ? I really don't think this can just be considered "opinion". | 19:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1197459 in OpenStack Security Advisory "noVNC contains the session token in URL and insecurely sets the session cookie" [Undecided,Won't fix] | 19:22 |
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| paul-carlton2 | I'm looking at the ComputeCapabilitiesFilter and maybe I'm missing something but I can see how to add an user defined capability to a compute node? | 19:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | STEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Config option update tasks for availability_zone https://review.openstack.org/341862 | 19:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Patzig proposed openstack/nova: Add option to disable local disks in flavors [3/3] https://review.openstack.org/331633 | 20:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Patzig proposed openstack/nova: Add option to disable local disks in flavors [1/3] https://review.openstack.org/280301 | 20:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pooja Ghumre proposed openstack/nova: If OS populated machine_id file is empty, use hardware serial for the libvirt driver. https://review.openstack.org/343943 | 22:40 |
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| anteaya | <-- is at the Holiday Inn Express in Hillsboro and has just viewed the meeting room | 23:01 |
| anteaya | if matt gets in, I would like to consult with him | 23:02 |
| anteaya | thanks | 23:02 |
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| nortman | Hey, stupid question, but what time does the midcycle start tomorrow? | 23:22 |
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| anteaya | nortman: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/NovaNewtonSprint | 23:31 |
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| anteaya | okay I am going offline to go meet mikal and tonyb at their hotel, I'll try in a bit to find mriedem | 23:31 |
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| nortman | anteaya: Doesn't actually say the start time there. I'm guessing like 9 or 10am? | 23:39 |
| nortman | And looks like it was moved from the Intel campus to the Holiday Inn? | 23:40 |
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