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| mriedem | tjones: ok thanks | 00:09 |
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| mriedem | stewie925: tox -r -e api-ref generates the api-ref docs | 00:10 |
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| mriedem | tox -e api-sample generates the api-samples used in the functional api samples tests | 00:10 |
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| mriedem | i believe anyway | 00:10 |
| stewie925 | mriedem: yes, its actually the api-sample I am interested in - based on the comment review for my https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338606/ | 00:11 |
| mriedem | stewie925: yeah OS_TEST_PATH=./nova/tests/functional/api_sample_tests | 00:11 |
| mriedem | it runs that with GENERATE_SAMPLES=True | 00:11 |
| mriedem | so see what GENERATE_SAMPLES does in the functional tests | 00:11 |
| mriedem | i thought it created an api sample doc for the test to use if one wasn't in the repo | 00:11 |
| mriedem | yeah doc/api_samples/os-multinic/multinic-add-fixed-ip-req.json is an api sampel | 00:12 |
| mriedem | *sample | 00:12 |
| mriedem | but i thought GENERATE_SAMPLES would only create one if it didn't exist | 00:12 |
| mriedem | you'd have to look | 00:12 |
| stewie925 | oh I see | 00:12 |
| stewie925 | mriedem: so the api-sample already exists, and I made a change to the networkid value to a string instead of an integer | 00:13 |
| mriedem | fwiw the functional api samples run with a fake network API backend i believe, which is stubbed to be a nova-network fake backend | 00:15 |
| mriedem | so that's probably why john was asking about the int vs uuid | 00:15 |
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| mriedem | that's probably also why he's asking because https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338606/8/api-ref/source/servers-action-fixed-ip.inc says it only works with nova-netwokr | 00:16 |
| mriedem | *network | 00:16 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: yes you're right | 00:20 |
| stewie925 | I just need to back out the change to that json file | 00:20 |
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| mriedem | stewie925: i just added a comment in there | 00:22 |
| mriedem | but that api is also implemented for neutron | 00:22 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/ebb51d50dcbc0052dc95a2595cd904c59df8b0d2/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py#L1338 | 00:22 |
| mriedem | so the warning about it being nova-network only is wrong | 00:22 |
| mriedem | and we actually only test that api with neutron jobs | 00:22 |
| stewie925 | mriedem: oh, thank you | 00:23 |
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| stewie925 | that was fast | 00:24 |
| mriedem | btw, we could have 2 samples for that one, one for nova-network and one for neutron | 00:24 |
| mriedem | in case it's confusing | 00:24 |
| stewie925 | so I have to update the warning text and indicate it is both for neutron and nova-network | 00:25 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: so right now, we only have the nova-network version (which is already deprecated) | 00:26 |
| mriedem | well, i'm not sure we need a warning, except to say it's deprecated for nova-network in 2.36 | 00:26 |
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| mriedem | what do you mean we only have the nova-network version? | 00:26 |
| mriedem | the sample you mean? | 00:27 |
| stewie925 | yes that is right | 00:27 |
| stewie925 | I meant the sample json | 00:27 |
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| mriedem | yeah but we can have more than one sample | 00:28 |
| mriedem | e.g. the title on the existing one is "Example Add (Associate) Fixed Ip (Addfixedip Action): JSON request" | 00:28 |
| mriedem | you could work (nova-network) and (neutron) into different samples | 00:28 |
| mriedem | for example | 00:28 |
| mriedem | but yeah we probably would need a warning or at least a note that the api is deprecated for nova-network after 2.35 | 00:28 |
| mriedem | actually, that's not correct i don't think | 00:29 |
| mriedem | since it's a server action | 00:29 |
| stewie925 | yeah I understand its confusing hehe | 00:29 |
| mriedem | would probably need to see what we did for associating a floating IP with a server | 00:30 |
| mriedem | or security group | 00:30 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: I think I know why our launchpad bugs aren't getting updated anymore by the gerrit hook. the hudson-openstack user isn't a member of the nova bug team anymore. I asked jeblair to add it back when he gets a chance | 00:31 |
| mriedem | yeah addFloatingIp isn't deprecated with 2.36 | 00:31 |
| mriedem | so no warning | 00:31 |
| mriedem | melwitt: ah probably expired | 00:31 |
| mriedem | nice catch | 00:31 |
| mriedem | seems like someone should own that functional id and get emails if it expires | 00:32 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: looks like mikal is the only admin of the nova bug team. we need to get you admin on there | 00:37 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: thank you for the clarifying comments in my commit | 00:38 |
| stewie925 | so I need to add the json for the neutron add-fixed-ip | 00:38 |
| melwitt | mriedem: jeblair isn't an admin of it, I was looking at the wrong page when I said that. so we need to ask mikal to add hudson-openstack to that | 00:38 |
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| jeblair | mriedem, mikal, melwitt: i made mriedem an admin of nova-bugs | 00:43 |
| melwitt | jeblair: \o/ | 00:44 |
| jeblair | mriedem, melwitt: i set hudson-openstack's membership in nova-bugs to never expire | 00:44 |
| mriedem | sweet | 00:45 |
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| melwitt | jeblair: I was just about to ask that. thank you! it was driving me nuts every time bugs weren't updated and I didn't know why | 00:46 |
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| jeblair | melwitt: thanks for figuring it out :) | 00:46 |
| melwitt | heh | 00:46 |
| stewie925 | mriedem: regarding the add-fixed-ip for neutron | 00:47 |
| stewie925 | could need some guidance as to the correct format for it | 00:48 |
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| stewie925 | i referenced the openstack docs for "add-fixed-ip" for neutron - I see http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/cli-create-and-manage-networks.html#Create-ports | 00:51 |
| mriedem | stewie925: according to the tempest test it's just the network id from a given interface https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/3570c1e90face7562b336b4437dd59b3a5d3f675/tempest/api/compute/servers/test_attach_interfaces.py#L261 | 00:52 |
| mriedem | which in the case of neutron is going to be a uuid | 00:52 |
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| mriedem | stewie925: like this http://logs.openstack.org/13/294513/20/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/b813806/logs/tempest.txt.gz#_2016-09-21_14_00_09_909 | 00:52 |
| mriedem | Body: {"addFixedIp": {"networkId": "8ef04095-a87f-45d3-920e-d2f7a022f32f"}} | 00:52 |
| mriedem | ok, with that, i need to get my ass onto a couch and watch this trainwreck that is going to be the presidential debate | 00:53 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem_debate: thank you and good night! | 00:56 |
| stewie925 | I'll continue work on it tmrw am | 00:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yang Shengming proposed openstack/nova: [WIP]prevent resize down with ceph backend in libvirt driver https://review.openstack.org/325708 | 05:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Béla Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Reduce code duplication https://review.openstack.org/344234 | 06:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nguyen Phuong An proposed openstack/nova: Prevent use filter(lambda ...) to meet python2,3 https://review.openstack.org/369862 | 07:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Béla Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.shelve_offload notifications https://review.openstack.org/377239 | 07:41 |
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| PaulMurray | tdurakov, pkoniszewski are either of you around ? | 07:51 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray: yes, whatsup? | 07:51 |
| tdurakov | morning nova~ | 07:52 |
| PaulMurray | Hi tdurakov - I have a conflict with the live migration meeting today - would you be able to chair it for me | 07:52 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray: ok | 07:53 |
| PaulMurray | thanks, I might be there for some of the meeting, but I can't be sure | 07:53 |
| PaulMurray | tdurakov, I thought it might be good to get a list of LM specs together so we can see who is doing what | 07:54 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray: no worries | 07:54 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray: ok, will try to prepare list before the meeting | 07:55 |
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| PaulMurray | doesn't have to be complete - its up to everyone to add what they are doing | 07:55 |
| PaulMurray | but making sure we know about the expected work would be good | 07:56 |
| PaulMurray | thanks again | 07:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yang Shengming proposed openstack/nova: Fix libvirt resize down prevention for shared storage https://review.openstack.org/325708 | 08:04 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: hey, are you around? | 08:04 |
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| bhagyashri | Hi all, I want to clear my doubt regarding the shelve api: Firstly i have created one instance by boot api and then shelve that instance through the shelve api and checked the virsh list in that case it shows me the empty virsh list, so displaying or not showing the the shelved instance in virsh list is correct or not? please let me known if any one has idea about it. | 08:27 |
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| bhagyashri | one more thing i have changed in the code is: i have set default value for CONF.shelved_offload_time as -1. | 08:43 |
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| sfinucan | artom: It's this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364814/, but I need to figure out what it does and doesn't do now, thanks to some other changes that have happened since :) | 08:50 |
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| prateek_ | bhagyashri, u might need to try virsh list --all | 09:02 |
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| bhagyashri | ptateek_: ok. thank you. | 09:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Béla Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.shelve_offload notifications https://review.openstack.org/377239 | 09:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/376125 | 10:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-vif: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/377527 | 10:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Deprecate image-metadata proxy API https://review.openstack.org/377528 | 10:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/377558 | 10:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP: Add spec to use Cinder's new attachment APIs https://review.openstack.org/373203 | 10:16 |
| tdurakov | folks, who could help me with intel nfv ci job? | 10:16 |
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| wznoinsk | hi tdurakov, there are issues with it, we're on it | 10:17 |
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| tdurakov | wznoinsk: I have proposal for you | 10:17 |
| wznoinsk | tdurakov: shoot | 10:18 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: here is the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376473/ - that fixes only unit-tests, so there is nothing to deal with your job, it's just wasting of resources. My proposal is to exclude tests from list of folders that triggers your ci | 10:19 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: what do you think? | 10:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: [placement] ensure that allow headers are native strings https://review.openstack.org/374800 | 10:19 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: for not 3rd party ci, this is managed by zuul layout, e.g. https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L2085-L2096 | 10:21 |
| wznoinsk | exclusions of unit tests, docs, releasenotes, api-guide/ref, plugins/doc are on todo list | 10:22 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: cool, glad to hear that:) | 10:22 |
| wznoinsk | thanks for bringing that up | 10:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: doc: Integrate oslo_policy.sphinxpolicygen https://review.openstack.org/376547 | 10:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: ah, that one looks exciting | 10:49 |
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| sfinucan | Could I get some eyes on this series of patches? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:feat/resolve-fields-todos | 10:49 |
| sfinucan | Belongs to that family of "causes lots of merge conflicts, but are ultimately trivial" patches | 10:50 |
| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: It could be, once I realise whether I've done it right or not :) | 10:50 |
| sfinucan | (I fear I may not have, but waiting on dhellmann or similar to chime in) | 10:50 |
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| tdurakov | sfinucan: heh, big one^ | 10:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP: Add spec to use Cinder's new attachment APIs https://review.openstack.org/373203 | 11:00 |
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| artom | sfinucan, hey, thanks for getting back to me :) tdurakov has a patch up here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376452/ that's for the same thing IIUC - maybe coordinate with him? | 11:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add spec to use Cinder's new attachment APIs https://review.openstack.org/373203 | 11:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: raj_singh: thanks for looking at that cinder spec before, there is loads more context adde now, after talking with the cinder folks yesterday | 11:21 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: Will re-read, thanks. | 11:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: WIP config options: improve libvirt https://review.openstack.org/370843 | 11:26 |
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| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: In an earlier patch I asked whether volumes should be attached to compute hosts or nodes? | 11:29 |
| mdbooth | Is that still a relevant question? | 11:29 |
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| mdbooth | e.g. Does Ironic still use lots of nodes? | 11:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: I missed that, I am largely ignoring that, and just doing host for now | 11:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: I think in ironic, when they support volumes, is likely to leave host as None all the time, in reality | 11:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: as with baremetal its not really attached to any hypervisor host | 11:31 |
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| mdbooth | This is a confusion in that data model, imho. Node == hypervisor host; host == where nova compute is running. | 11:31 |
| mdbooth | It just so happens we conflated those 2 things. | 11:31 |
| mdbooth | But the thing you'd want to connect a volume to is the node, surely? | 11:32 |
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| * jaypipes *yawns* | 11:49 | |
| jaypipes | morning folks | 11:49 |
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| mdbooth | jaypipes: Random association: https://youtu.be/dpwhohWhrEE?t=126 | 11:54 |
| mdbooth | "When bapuss wakes up, all his friends wake up, too" | 11:54 |
| mdbooth | bagpuss | 11:54 |
| tdurakov | jaypipes: hi | 11:54 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan: ping | 11:55 |
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| sfinucan | tdurakov: what's up? | 12:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: possibly, although its the host that is in charge of all the volume connections, just trying to keep that bit the same as today I guess | 12:07 |
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| tdurakov | sfinucan: as I understood from artom's message you could be interested to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376452/ | 12:07 |
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| artom | tdurakov, well, you guy are apparently working on the same thing, but sfinucan's approach is different from yours. | 12:08 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov: Possibly. I'd need to know the difference with this one, though https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364814 | 12:08 |
| artom | Anyways, just thought you should be aware of each other :) | 12:08 |
| sfinucan | artom: It's actually mikal's - I've just been keeping it up-to-date :) | 12:08 |
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| artom | sfinucan, it's yours now ;) | 12:08 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: We should ditch node if we're not going to use it imho. My preference, though, would be to use it everywhere. There's no fundamental reason to co-locate nova compute with the hypervisor, it's just an implementation detail of some of our virt drivers. | 12:09 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan, so you approach claims to retain config_drive option that is used on the instance very first boot, right? | 12:10 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov: Yeah, exactly | 12:10 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan: tbh I think we need both then | 12:10 |
| sfinucan | It doesn't seem like something that should ever be recalculated once configured | 12:10 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan: here is a thing - my patch is bug fix(could be backported), not sure we could backport yours | 12:11 |
| tdurakov | if we can, I'd happy to go with it | 12:12 |
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| tdurakov | this issue is valid for previous releases either | 12:12 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov: Let me check out both and see | 12:12 |
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| tdurakov | sfinucan: yes please | 12:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexey Yelistratov proposed openstack/nova: Integrate OSprofiler and Nova https://review.openstack.org/254703 | 12:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: improve libvirt remotefs https://review.openstack.org/370843 | 12:23 |
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| * mdbooth is just reading some ml traffic. In the thread 'Schedule Instances according to Local disk based Volume', can anybody tell me why they're not just using LVM storage and ephemeral disks? Nobody seems to have mentioned it in the thread, so I'm assuming I've missed some obvious reason that they don't want that. | 12:27 | |
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| mdbooth | I mean, they specifically say 'Cinder', but apart from that it doesn't seem to be what they're requesting. | 12:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hussain Chachuliya proposed openstack/nova: Replace uuid4() with uuidsentinel https://review.openstack.org/377667 | 12:36 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: would love some review of this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346821/ | 12:57 |
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| * danpb wants to actually get it done this cycle after missing juno, kilo, liberty, mitaka & newton | 12:58 | |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: ah, that one. I should take a look at that in a bit | 13:00 |
| danpb | l. | 13:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: FWIW, I am of the kill node vs host distinction camp, for me the host tells me the name of the rabbit queue, the rest is the drivers problem. | 13:08 |
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| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: That's an excellent point I hadn't considered. Although you'd still need some kind of driver-specific datastore on the host to differentiate. | 13:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: generally the ones with nodes all have either a cluster thing or something else to record it anyways, but yeah, they would need that | 13:16 |
| mdbooth | ...so that the host can differentiate. | 13:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Prateek Arora proposed openstack/nova: Delete traces of in-progress snapshot on VM being deleted https://review.openstack.org/294513 | 13:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Fix database poison warnings, part 18 https://review.openstack.org/375899 | 13:21 |
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| mriedem | wznoinsk: seeing some devstack setup failures in the intel nfv ci http://intel-openstack-ci-logs.ovh/94/375894/2/check/tempest-dsvm-intel-nfv-xenial/a0bffb3/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz | 13:23 |
| mriedem | Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement hacking<0.12,>=0.11.0 (from -r /opt/stack/new/tempest/test-requirements.txt (line 4)) (from versions: ) 2016-09-27 02:13:29.687 | No matching distribution found for hacking<0.12,>=0.11.0 (from -r /opt/stack/new/tempest/test-requirements.txt (line 4)) | 13:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Enable to share PCI devices between numa nodes https://review.openstack.org/361140 | 13:29 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap kmartin claudiub tobasco andreas_s abhishekk mrhillsman raj_singh live migration subteam meeting at the #openstack-meeting-3 in 3 minutes | 13:57 |
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| mriedem | diana_clarke: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375895/ how about we throw those AllServicesCurrent fixtures into the setUp for the last 2 tests? | 14:03 |
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| diana_clarke | mriedem: sure, will do. thanks! | 14:07 |
| mriedem | danpb: wasn't there like at least a 1 year window where no one was actually working on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/websocket-proxy-to-host-security after solly left? | 14:08 |
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| danpb | mriedem: well yeah, it missed the Liberty cycle entirely | 14:12 |
| mriedem | and solly dropped it in kilo | 14:12 |
| mriedem | anyway, it's not fair to say 'no one has cared about this for 2.5 years' | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | or at least to blame that on the review team | 14:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Fix database poison warnings, part 17 https://review.openstack.org/375895 | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: improve libvirt smbfs https://review.openstack.org/377729 | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: alaski: hmm http://logs.openstack.org/13/377113/2/check/gate-dg-hooks-dsvm/60f86f7/logs/devstack-gate-post_test_hook.txt.gz | 14:16 |
| mriedem | i got my d-g change to call the post_test_hook, but it's not pulling in that nova change | 14:16 |
| mriedem | nova/nova is probably the issue | 14:17 |
| mriedem | well maybe not | 14:17 |
| mriedem | that's how the live-migration job works | 14:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: well, sounds like I have to talk to tdurakov anyway | 14:17 |
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| alaski | mriedem: it is the nova/nova, I copied the live migration hook pattern and that is wrong here | 14:18 |
| alaski | because tools is not under nova/ | 14:19 |
| mriedem | ah crap | 14:19 |
| mriedem | ok updated | 14:19 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: alaski: what are your thoughts on the pathing? | 14:24 |
| dansmith | I just want to run the damn thing, Idon't care where it is | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | nova/tests/hooks? | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | i don't want nova/hooks as that could be confused with stevedore hooks | 14:24 |
| mriedem | which we don't want | 14:25 |
| alaski | I disliked putting it under tests/ because I wanted to run non test things from it | 14:25 |
| alaski | but I ultimately don't care | 14:25 |
| dansmith | personally I think it doesn't make sense to have it in the python module | 14:25 |
| mdbooth | danpb: Could you have a quick look at this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375644/ | 14:25 |
| dansmith | so ./hooks or ./tools as we have it now, or ./tools/hooks or whatever | 14:25 |
| mdbooth | danpb: Proposal is that cpus should be assumed compatible during live migration if there's no specific model given. | 14:25 |
| mriedem | tools/hooks is ok, but throw a readme in there about that they are | 14:25 |
| mdbooth | danpb: Sounds wrong to me. | 14:26 |
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| alaski | dansmith: mriedem are we expecting multiple hooks such that we need a directory? or is the current post_test_hook.sh fine | 14:26 |
| alaski | just in tools/ | 14:26 |
| danpb | mdbooth: yeah, that looks well dubious | 14:26 |
| dansmith | alaski: tdurakov asserts we do, as I understand it | 14:26 |
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| dansmith | I think we'll probably want this running on all jobs eventually, | 14:27 |
| dansmith | so I think he probably was thinking in a more narrow live-migrate sort of mindset | 14:27 |
| dansmith | this, and the log analysis thing, if we were able to land such a thing | 14:27 |
| alaski | yeah, I think we want this on all jobs eventually as well | 14:28 |
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| mdbooth | danpb: Thanks. | 14:29 |
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| alaski | dansmith: so we could do something like tools/hooks/post_test_hook.sh and tools/hooks/live_migrate_post_test_hook.sh or just have post_test_hook.sh conditionally call live migrate post test code | 14:31 |
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| dansmith | alaski: yep | 14:31 |
| cdent | jaypipes, mriedem: would "use policies in placement api" be spec, specless blueprint, bug or something else? | 14:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Removing duplicates from columns_to_join list https://review.openstack.org/342299 | 14:32 |
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| mriedem | cdent: it's an api change so probably a spec | 14:32 |
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| cdent | mriedem: the external api won't change? you'll still be required to be a service/admin/superpowered user | 14:33 |
| alaski | dansmith: do you want to create a hooks dir in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376567/3 | 14:33 |
| cdent | it's just the mode and granularity of the checking will change | 14:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: Move notification_format and delete rpc.py https://review.openstack.org/349600 | 14:33 |
| dansmith | alaski: if that's the plan then yeah | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: Improve help for SPICE https://review.openstack.org/317046 | 14:34 |
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| alaski | I just saw tdurakov's comment | 14:34 |
| mriedem | cdent: i guess i don't know how much of an impact it is | 14:34 |
| alaski | dansmith: I'm good with it if others are | 14:34 |
| alaski | mriedem: tools/hooks/ work for you? | 14:34 |
| mriedem | cdent: maybe start with a specless blueprint, detail what you think the changes are in the bp description and we can look at it and see if it needs a spec | 14:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: Improve consistency in libvirt https://review.openstack.org/353679 | 14:34 |
| cdent | mriedem: ✔ | 14:35 |
| mriedem | alaski: tools/hooks works for me if there is a readme in there about those hooks are | 14:35 |
| cdent | thanks | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: conf: Improve consistency in scheduler opts https://review.openstack.org/349666 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: Improve consistency in serial_console https://review.openstack.org/348902 | 14:35 |
| alaski | tdurakov: are you okay with moving test hooks to a new tools/hooks/ dir? | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | alaski: on meeting | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | yes | 14:36 |
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| alaski | tdurakov: okay. you can comment on the patch later as well | 14:37 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: sdague: johnthetubaguy: bauzas: we need this for rc2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376999/ | 14:37 |
| alaski | dansmith: I think we have consensus for now | 14:37 |
| bauzas | mriedem: ack, looking | 14:37 |
| pumaranikar | alex_xu, resolved nit change. can you please re-approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342299/. removing duplicates from expected_attr | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add a post-test-hook to run the archive command https://review.openstack.org/376567 | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Prateek Arora proposed openstack/nova: Delete traces of in-progress snapshot on VM being deleted https://review.openstack.org/294513 | 14:38 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: will you update your test? ^ | 14:39 |
| bauzas | mriedem: was that a regression ? | 14:39 |
| bauzas | mriedem: the commit msg is unclear about that | 14:40 |
| mriedem | bauzas: yes | 14:40 |
| mriedem | glance v2 was in newton | 14:40 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah | 14:40 |
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| bauzas | oh right | 14:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova-specs: Initial draft of API capabilities interface https://review.openstack.org/377756 | 14:48 |
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| bauzas | alaski: thanks for your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376382/1, responded | 14:53 |
| bauzas | alaski: tl;dr: if people want to destroy some object that was not persisted first, then it will just already return an exception | 14:53 |
| bauzas | alaski: I don't really think we need to check whether self.id is there | 14:53 |
| alaski | bauzas: I'm fine leaving it off, but I think having it provides more protection. It prevents spec = objects.RequestSpec(); spec.instance_uuid = foo; spec.destroy() | 14:53 |
| alaski | but I'm +2 once Jenkins passes | 14:53 |
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| bauzas | alaski: sure, I understood your point | 14:53 |
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| dansmith | alaski: you pushed the config thing too? what'd I mess up? | 14:53 |
| bauzas | alaski: like I said, I already thought about that, and it seems to me not really needed, because I'm just calling the DB asking for the instance_uuid | 14:53 |
| alaski | dansmith: nothing, I just didn't realize you were pushing. though I did update the commit to not reference the log parsing thing | 14:53 |
| bauzas | alaski: so, in case the guy wrote the above, then it will return correctly an exception | 14:53 |
| dansmith | alaski: ah, okay | 14:53 |
| bauzas | alaski: if I would be preventive, I could return the exact same exception in the main destroy() method but see, that looks like just if not self.id: raise exc | 14:53 |
| bauzas | alaski: that just prevents a DB call | 14:54 |
| bauzas | so, I dunno | 14:54 |
| bauzas | alaski: if you think that's really important (because of the performance), then okay, I can respin it | 14:54 |
| alaski | it's not a big deal which I why I'm +2 without it | 14:54 |
| bauzas | okay | 14:55 |
| alaski | well, will be when it passes | 14:55 |
| bauzas | either way, I'm thinking now on where to call it | 14:55 |
| bauzas | given we have delayed instance deletions :p | 14:55 |
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| bauzas | alaski: would you be okay if I would call ReqSpec.destroy() within the Instance.destroy() method ? | 14:56 |
| bauzas | or I could just add the call like you did for BuildReqs | 14:57 |
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| alaski | bauzas: my preference is to not couple objects like that, and have the caller be explicit | 14:58 |
| bauzas | okay | 14:58 |
| bauzas | fine by me | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | dansmith: hi, do you have questions on post_test_hook? | 15:00 |
| dansmith | tdurakov: sounds like mriedem alaski and I reached consensus that we think you'll be okay with | 15:00 |
| dansmith | tdurakov: so you need to move your hook into tools/hooks | 15:00 |
| dansmith | tdurakov: this hook I'm adding should eventually be run on every job for the most part | 15:00 |
| dansmith | every dsvm job that is | 15:01 |
| tdurakov | dansmith: yeah, already +1 that | 15:01 |
| tdurakov | will move l-m hooks there too | 15:01 |
| dansmith | tdurakov: okay | 15:03 |
| mriedem | gah http://logs.openstack.org/13/377113/4/check/gate-dg-hooks-dsvm/1250c5b/logs/devstack-gate-post_test_hook.txt.gz | 15:03 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: I think you need +x | 15:04 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: feel free to update that change, i have to run to meetings | 15:05 |
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| alaski | dansmith: you need to update the file permissions on post_test_hook.sh | 15:07 |
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| dansmith | did git change them? | 15:07 |
| tdurakov | alaski: in progress | 15:07 |
| alaski | looks like others are 775 | 15:07 |
| tdurakov | dansmith: yes | 15:07 |
| alaski | dansmith: it's showing 644 | 15:07 |
| dansmith | gdi | 15:07 |
| dansmith | pushed | 15:07 |
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| stevemar | mriedem_meeting: gahhh meeting | 15:11 |
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| dansmith | alaski: heh, I rechecked the project config one but meant to recheck mriedem_meeting's | 15:13 |
| dansmith | thanks | 15:13 |
| alaski | heh, np | 15:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova-specs: Libvirt driver emulator threads placement policy https://review.openstack.org/284094 | 15:18 |
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| danpb | what doc / project contains documentation about nova deployment processes ? | 15:27 |
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| clarkb | danpb: openstack/openstack-manuals iirc | 15:28 |
| danpb | clarkb: thanks | 15:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova-specs: Websockify security proxy framework https://review.openstack.org/346821 | 15:34 |
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| danpb | you know you've been working on something too long, when you've started calling the git branch "vnc-crypt-new-newish-no-really-the-newest" | 15:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova-specs: Virt driver private storage https://review.openstack.org/377806 | 15:41 |
| artom | danpb, continuing from our conversation downstream, I maeded a thing ^^ | 15:41 |
| artom | BobBall_, claudiub, as custodians of XenAPI and HyperV respectively, would there be any interest from your drivers for something like ^^^ ? | 15:42 |
| claudiub | hello. :) reading | 15:42 |
| artom | claudiub, woot, thanks :) | 15:42 |
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| claudiub | you have some trailing whitespace in the spec, btw. :) | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: use os-brick for volume related operations https://review.openstack.org/273504 | 15:44 |
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| artom | claudiub, hah, thanks :) I'll be sure to fix that | 15:44 |
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| dansmith | derekh: so with your dump, I was able to archive a bunch of instance_action records, | 15:48 |
| dansmith | derekh: but then I hit this: | 15:48 |
| dansmith | dan@guaranine:~$ nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows --verbose --max_rows 100 | 15:48 |
| dansmith | error: 'tag' | 15:48 |
| dansmith | derekh: which I've expanded to a nasty trace in sqla | 15:49 |
| dansmith | derekh: that looks different from what you were seeing though | 15:49 |
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| derekh | dansmith: I've never seen that error | 15:49 |
| claudiub | artom: ehm, can you expand the usecase section a bit more? | 15:50 |
| derekh | dansmith: We've always been able to archive instance_actions and other row types | 15:50 |
| dansmith | hmm | 15:50 |
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| derekh | dansmith: it appears to be just instances that arn't archiving (or at least most of them) | 15:51 |
| dansmith | derekh: this failure is with the insert-to-shadow statement failing | 15:51 |
| claudiub | artom: also, we've recently added the export / import VM logic into os-win, which would be needed for your spec. All that would be needed would be just a few lines of code in the hyper-v driver, to call those methods. :) | 15:52 |
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| dansmith | derekh: ah, this is because I'm running new code from before virtual_interfaces.tag was run | 15:52 |
| dansmith | *added | 15:52 |
| dansmith | derekh: I see you're on mitaka, which would explain it | 15:52 |
| artom | claudiub, re: use case, well, the one that *I* have in mind is already in there: saving instance XML across evacuations, etc | 15:53 |
| claudiub | artom: also, the problem you're describing in the spec, it looks like something that can be easily fixed by just filtering the vifs by their mac addresses before attaching them. | 15:53 |
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| derekh | dansmith: yup, mitaka/rdo | 15:53 |
| artom | claudiub, was that made clear in the spec, or did I botch up the explanation? | 15:53 |
| artom | claudiub, I was hoping other drivers would have use for driver private storage for their own needs, since it's a pretty generic mechanism by itself | 15:54 |
| artom | claudiub, re: import/export - you mean you'd export stuff *into* driver private storage? | 15:54 |
| dansmith | derekh: so from your bug report, it sounds like you are expecting something else to happen.. because --max_rows=100000 may very well end up with only a few instances if it's archiving a bunch of things like actions and stuff | 15:55 |
| claudiub | artom: export yields the given VM's configuration file, which can be later imported on another node, keeping any and all configurations. | 15:55 |
| dansmith | derekh: and that warning you show is just a really poor warning | 15:55 |
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| BobBall_ | artom: It looks to me that the saving of the whole XML is a much broader thing than just for the order of network interfaces | 15:56 |
| artom | claudiub, where do you store that exported VM config file? | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Prateek Arora proposed openstack/nova: Delete traces of in-progress snapshot on VM being deleted https://review.openstack.org/294513 | 15:56 |
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| cdent | edleafe: can I assume you've not started on adjustments here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355263/ ? | 15:57 |
| artom | BobBall_, it definitely is, and if other virt driver have no interest in this spec, I'll definitely re-think my plan :) | 15:57 |
| dansmith | derekh: max_rows is a total of the records, not the total number of instances | 15:58 |
| derekh | dansmith: I was expecting it to eventually archive instance rows, if I run archive_deleted_rows multiple times I eventually get to the point where virtually nothing gets archived but 1000's of deleted VM's remain in the instances table | 15:58 |
| artom | I admit it's a very narrow use case for a very broad solution, and like I said, I'm throwing out feelers for if this broad solution feels useful for other virt drivers for their needs | 15:58 |
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| dansmith | derekh: so each instance has a bunch of other rows in other tables | 15:58 |
| dansmith | derekh: okay | 15:58 |
| claudiub | artom: we don't. the idea is that we want to pass that file on cold migration to the destination node. there is a particular scenario for us when we need to export on source / import on destination the vm, rather than destroy on source / recreate on destination. | 15:58 |
| dansmith | derekh: well, let me run some large batches here and see if I can get to that point | 15:58 |
| derekh | dansmith: ok | 15:58 |
| BobBall_ | artom: IMO saving VM metadata is probably a good thing to do; trying to rebuild things from scratch each time is error prone particularly when dynamic changes can be made to a VM (we had similar questions about the ordering of NICs when hot plugging vs adding them to new instances). I do have concerns that attempting to build a VM part from stored driver metadata and part from whatever new Nova m | 15:58 |
| BobBall_ | etadata exists is potentially quite error prone too | 15:59 |
| artom | claudiub, do I understand correctly that you're saying you'd use virt driver private storage if it existed to pass that file to the dest node on cold migration? | 16:00 |
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| claudiub | artom: hm, a more direct approach would be to just copy the exported config file to the destination node, just as the disks are copied anyway. for this particular scenario, the config file is no longer useful after the migration succeeds. :) | 16:02 |
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| artom | BobBall_, ah, you're saying we'll have 2 sources of truth: whatever is saved, plus whatever is new from, err, other potential sources... | 16:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: use os-brick for volume related operations https://review.openstack.org/273504 | 16:02 |
| artom | claudiub, true, we can just do direct copy | 16:03 |
| BobBall_ | artom: Yes - which is the truer source of truth? | 16:03 |
| artom | BobBall_, me. Always me. | 16:03 |
| artom | :D | 16:03 |
| BobBall_ | Awesome. So if there is a disagreement when booting an instance, we'll add your cell number to Nova for on demand answers :D | 16:03 |
| claudiub | artom: anyways, not I see what you mean, thanks to BobBall_'s example. anyways, if this gets approved, it'll be an easy implementation for hyper-v. :) I'd say 20-30 loc. :D | 16:04 |
| artom | BobBall_, claudiub, so, thanks for being reactive with the feedback, it's awesome to have folks be interested in this. You think you could post something on the spec review, and we'll go from there? danpb left some constructive feedback as well, so thanks danpb! | 16:04 |
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| claudiub | but for the particular example with the vnics, what about adding adding a new field to the nova vif object, a field like "device_order"? | 16:05 |
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| artom | claudiub, I think we proposed that a while ago, before we did the tagging work, and as an alternative to the tagging work. | 16:06 |
| artom | As you can see, it went nowhere :) | 16:06 |
| claudiub | i see | 16:07 |
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| edleafe | cdent: OTP now | 16:07 |
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| cdent | edleafe: cool, no worries, I've gone ahead and started it. In the process realized the code is correct. I'll make the comment explain itself better. | 16:08 |
| dansmith | derekh: this db has been around since before mitaka right? | 16:08 |
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| claudiub | artom: also, question: do you propose we store the vm config data for each and every vm? | 16:09 |
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| claudiub | or only selectively, somehow? | 16:10 |
| artom | claudiub, entirely up to the virt driver | 16:10 |
| derekh | dansmith: nope, it was a fresh mitaka install | 16:10 |
| dansmith | derekh: orly, hmm | 16:10 |
| artom | But yeah, in the libvirt case we'd dump the XML in there for every instance | 16:10 |
| artom | (Assuming this actually goes forward in its current state) | 16:11 |
| claudiub | artom: hm, I would argue that it should be consistent across all drivers | 16:11 |
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| artom | claudiub, should it? What would go wrong if hyper-v for example doesn't? | 16:11 |
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| claudiub | artom: i'm asking because it can get troublesome if tens of thousands of vms are spawned. those config files tend to be quite large. | 16:12 |
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| claudiub | artom: and if you only have cattle vms, having all that data is not useful. | 16:12 |
| artom | claudiub, aha, so your argument is that it should be on a per-VM basis, not per driver? | 16:13 |
| artom | Ideally admin-controlled, since we're opening up the possibility of loading up the DB pretty hard... | 16:14 |
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| edleafe | cdent: ok. Today is my meeting hell day, so I haven't looked at that since yesterday | 16:14 |
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| claudiub | artom: yep, exactly | 16:14 |
| danpb | i just don't see any compelling reason to use the DB at all | 16:14 |
| cdent | edleafe: roger | 16:14 |
| artom | claudiub, I can get behind that :) | 16:14 |
| danpb | its just one more thing to get out of sync with the stuff we're already storing with libvirt | 16:15 |
| artom | danpb, makes it driver-agnostic, ie we're not adding RPC method parameters for essentially a single driver's need | 16:15 |
| artom | danpb, true, true... | 16:15 |
| danpb | no you're really not | 16:15 |
| danpb | you're adding a blob to the DB containing totally driver-specific data which some drivers may leave empty | 16:15 |
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| danpb | this is no different to adding a RPC parameter containing drier-specific data which some drivers may leave empty | 16:16 |
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| artom | danpb, your out-of-sync argument is similar to BobBall_'s single source of truth thing, so that's clearly something I need to re-think :) | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add {get_,set_}aggregates to objects.ResourceProvider https://review.openstack.org/355263 | 16:17 |
| danpb | artom: as mentioned in the spec, i think you need to more clearly define the problem | 16:18 |
| mdbooth | danpb: We were discussing this the other week: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104617.html | 16:18 |
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| danpb | artom: as i don't think the real problem implies need for the DB | 16:18 |
| artom | And yeah, when you put the RPC parameter that way, there's clearly a parallel between the database providing a place to shove blobs that some drivers use and some don't to RPC providing parameters that some drivers use and some don't. | 16:18 |
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| danpb | mdbooth: yes, exactly | 16:19 |
| mdbooth | danpb: Oh, is that what you were talking to artom about? | 16:19 |
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| danpb | mdbooth: this is the same thing, but dealing with one further edge case, which is evacuate/resize | 16:19 |
| mdbooth | If so, that's a complete coincidence | 16:19 |
| danpb | mdbooth: where the new VM is on a different host, and so we don't immediately have the persistent XML availavble | 16:19 |
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| danpb | mdbooth: IMHO, we merely need to have a way to copy across the libvirt persistent XML to deal with that | 16:19 |
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| mdbooth | danpb: I think that's the only situation where we're screwed, right? | 16:20 |
| mdbooth | Oh, or that | 16:20 |
| artom | mdbooth, we're talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377806/1/specs/ocata/approved/virt-driver-private-storage.rst | 16:20 |
| mdbooth | Just persist the whole domain xml in nova? | 16:20 |
| artom | And I completely missed your message list post. | 16:20 |
| mdbooth | artom: I posted it about 2 mins ago :) | 16:20 |
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| mdbooth | artom: I forgive you | 16:20 |
| artom | mdbooth, and there you went making me feel all guilty | 16:20 |
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| danpb | mdbooth: persisting it in nova just creates extra pain for you | 16:20 |
| danpb | if libvirt contains the persistent xml, then when hotplugging you can tell libvirt to update the live + persistent xml | 16:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Implement get and set aggregates in the placement API https://review.openstack.org/357993 | 16:21 |
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| edleafe | cdent: saw your comment. That makes sense, but geez the naming is confusing. | 16:21 |
| danpb | if persistent xml is in nova, then you have to deal with xml munging yourself which is extra error prone work you've just created | 16:21 |
| mdbooth | danpb: I think evacuate is the only edge case here, right? | 16:21 |
| mdbooth | If you're evacuating, I don't think starting again fresh is unreasonable | 16:22 |
| cdent | edleafe: yeah, I'm having a hard time keeping my head straight with too many buns in the oven, so if you've got some ideas, feel free to just change it. | 16:22 |
| mdbooth | danpb: I specifically call out evacuate in that mail as the only situation we expect to lose context. | 16:22 |
| edleafe | cdent: will do, but I doubt I'll have any time today to work on it. | 16:23 |
| danpb | mdbooth: iirc, resize restarts on separate host | 16:23 |
| mdbooth | danpb: It does, but it still has context | 16:23 |
| danpb | but that's essentially same problemspace as evacuate, so same solution would apply | 16:23 |
| cdent | edleafe: no worries, i'm about ready to expire for today and will probably be on other stuff tomorrow | 16:23 |
| mdbooth | No, it's different, because the source is still available | 16:23 |
| mdbooth | We can get the existing domain xml from the source and copy it to the target. | 16:24 |
| mdbooth | Then mess with it. | 16:24 |
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| artom | mdbooth, hrmm, so wouldn't evacuate be an argument for the database? If the source is no longer available, do we still have access to the XML? | 16:24 |
| mdbooth | artom: It's the edge case. I think you can either concede that you lost your host and you're rebuilding. | 16:25 |
| mdbooth | Unless you have remote storage this is absolutely true, btw, because you also lost your storage. | 16:25 |
| mdbooth | I think we could store it in the db, we just have to remember to refetch it from libvirt every time we changed it. | 16:25 |
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| mdbooth | danpb artom: I was wondering if there was interest in a separate libvirt sub-team. | 16:26 |
| artom | mdbooth, yeah, sync is definitely an issue - the question becomes 'is it worth it for the evacuate edge case?' | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for network options. https://review.openstack.org/341203 | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for ldap_dns_opts https://review.openstack.org/341984 | 16:26 |
| mdbooth | The live-migration team is very active in the libvirt driver, but they're far from the only actor. We could use some cross-talk. | 16:27 |
| artom | Now, our super-secret downstream partner would obviously say 'yes it is', but we're here thinking with our upstream hats :D | 16:27 |
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| artom | mdbooth, as an upstream sub-team? Personally I feel like I'm too all over the place and don't know enough to be a part of it, but... | 16:28 |
| mdbooth | artom: Yeah, I'd prefer to argue in terms of project direction. | 16:28 |
| mdbooth | artom: Yes, upstream sub-team. | 16:28 |
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| mdbooth | Nobody knows enough about anything :) Lets not let that stop us. | 16:29 |
| artom | I'll try to process all the feedback and come up with a new version of the spec... | 16:29 |
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| artom | mdbooth, sweet, I nominate myself for World President. | 16:29 |
| mdbooth | artom: So my proposal in that ML post would obsolete 3 specs that I currently know of, including one of mine. | 16:30 |
| artom | Planned obsolescence is the way to mucho $$, so congrats :d | 16:30 |
| mdbooth | artom: If you or danpb have any feedback on that on the ML I'd be grateful to hear it. | 16:31 |
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| artom | mdbooth, sure, I'll re-read more slowly and see if I have anything constructive to add | 16:32 |
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| mdbooth | artom: I suspect, though, that it's very similar to your spec | 16:32 |
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| mdbooth | Which I will also read :) | 16:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add spec to use Cinder's new attachment APIs https://review.openstack.org/373203 | 16:33 |
| danpb | mdbooth: i'd suggest you just create a spec for fixing the libvirt driver to honour persistent XML | 16:33 |
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| mdbooth | danpb: That requires slightly more structured thought, and therefore time, that a ML post. If I get a ton of 'over my dead body' I will no not to bother :) | 16:34 |
| mdbooth | know | 16:34 |
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| mdbooth | danpb: But yes, of course. | 16:35 |
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| Guest3747 | mriedem_meeting: I think derekh's issue is that sometimes we don't delete things like instance_extra, and the archive process is too dumb to know that we should nuke those things if the instance is deleted | 16:52 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: ha http://logs.openstack.org/13/377113/4/check/gate-dg-hooks-dsvm/535d62c/logs/devstack-gate-post_test_hook.txt.gz | 17:07 |
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| mriedem | so i guess that job doesn't actually run devstack | 17:07 |
| mriedem | but at least it shows it running the hook | 17:07 |
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| mriedem | the hook should be called here http://logs.openstack.org/13/377113/4/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/335a8c8/console.html#_2016-09-27_15_56_42_835812 | 17:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: pick future min libvirt/qemu versions https://review.openstack.org/377923 | 17:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: pick future min libvirt/qemu versions https://review.openstack.org/377923 | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | looks like it didn't call the hook, maybe not defined? | 17:24 |
| mriedem | so call_hook_if_defined didn't find it? | 17:24 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: hi there | 17:26 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 17:26 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: I'm requesting some clarification from the add-fixed-ip discussion we had yesterday - where networkId is int for nova-net and string for neutron | 17:27 |
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| mriedem | ok | 17:27 |
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| stewie925 | normally when running the nova CLI for add fixed ip , the command is 'nova add-fixed-ip <server> <networkId>' | 17:28 |
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| stewie925 | I realized that the <networkId> parameter would be the network uuid, is that right? | 17:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Archive instance-related rows when the parent instance is deleted https://review.openstack.org/377933 | 17:28 |
| stewie925 | I have my stak up and running right now with nova-network (n-net) | 17:29 |
| mriedem | stewie925: if you're using neutron yes | 17:29 |
| mriedem | for nova-network it would be the network id | 17:29 |
| mriedem | the int | 17:29 |
| stewie925 | hmm that is strange .... when I ran the 'nova network-list' it gives me the network ID in string format , not an integer | 17:30 |
| stewie925 | and I am using n-net at the moment... I know I am missing something in between | 17:30 |
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| mriedem | are you sure you'r running nova-net | 17:30 |
| stewie925 | but couldnt figure which... (sorry) | 17:30 |
| mriedem | default devstack is neutron now | 17:31 |
| stewie925 | yes Matt, I ran the devstack screen and I see n-net | 17:31 |
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| mriedem | ok | 17:31 |
| mriedem | what does nova network-list show? | 17:31 |
| alaski | mriedem: it found the hook afaict, but nova-manage must not be in the path so it couldn't run the hook | 17:31 |
| mriedem | alaski: yeah i don't think that gate hook job runs devstack | 17:32 |
| mriedem | there is no devstack log | 17:32 |
| mriedem | but not sure how it cloned nova then | 17:32 |
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| stewie925 | "nova network-list" results show ID= 5b538d1d-e0d3-4baa-aec5-10eb8219fa71 | 17:32 |
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| mriedem | alaski: the job runs in 3 minutes so it can't be running devstack | 17:32 |
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| mriedem | stewie925: hmm, the nova-network network object has an id and uuid | 17:33 |
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| mriedem | stewie925: and when listing/showing networks the id in the response is the uuid https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/networks.py#L74 | 17:34 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: http://paste.openstack.org/show/583131/ - the top shows the result of my 'nova network-list' and the bottom shows my devstack screen components - #8 shows n-net | 17:36 |
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| alaski | mriedem: I don't know how the logs map to the devstack-gate process yet so it's not clear to me what's going on. But yeah, must be pretty minimal based on the timing | 17:36 |
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| mriedem | stewie925: so the truth is the network id passed into the addFixedIP action can be either an int or a uuid for nova-network | 17:38 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/845adc652862a72c4c46f516ed02c4e05af358d9/nova/network/manager.py#L715 | 17:38 |
| mriedem | it handles both ^ | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | and the api schema allows both https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/845adc652862a72c4c46f516ed02c4e05af358d9/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/multinic.py#L25 | 17:39 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: thank you for pointing out the code - I see that the code accepts the id (int) or the uuid | 17:40 |
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| dansmith | alaski: I don't think that's the right thing to do | 17:41 |
| dansmith | alaski: devstack installs the cmd/* binaries in /usr/local/bin, which are just python module wrappers | 17:41 |
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| stewie925 | however, let me find out how to get the network id (int) instead of the uuid | 17:41 |
| dansmith | alaski: calling into the git dir and trying to execute the cmd/ thing is not the right move I think | 17:41 |
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| dansmith | alaski: http://logs.openstack.org/13/377113/4/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/335a8c8/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-09-27_15_25_10_376 | 17:44 |
| mriedem | stewie925: i think the point of the network show in the API is to only show the uuid | 17:44 |
| mriedem | the uuid is stored as the 'id' field in a neutron network object, | 17:44 |
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| mriedem | but the uuid is stored as the 'uuid' field in the nova network object | 17:44 |
| mriedem | either way, you get the uuid back from the api | 17:44 |
| alaski | dansmith: okay. I've been poking in the dark to figure out what the env there looks like because I haven't looked at devstack-gate enough to understand what it does. it seems like it needs a full path, even if I specified the wrong one :) | 17:45 |
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| mriedem | i'm sure there is a nova-manage network list/show command at some point that would show the network.id field for nova-network from the nova db | 17:45 |
| dansmith | alaski: yeah, could be, fixing to /usr/local now | 17:45 |
| mriedem | stewie925: honestly it's probably not a bad idea to disable being able to pass the network id as an int into addFixedIP | 17:45 |
| dansmith | alaski: it should also be -x so we can see it, which I'm also doing | 17:45 |
| mriedem | sdague: thoughts on that ^? | 17:45 |
| mriedem | sdague: re: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/845adc652862a72c4c46f516ed02c4e05af358d9/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/multinic.py#L25 | 17:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add a post-test-hook to run the archive command https://review.openstack.org/376567 | 17:45 |
| stewie925 | mriedem: i'd like to share that I tried to do "nova network <server name> <networkid = 1>" and it doesnt recognize the "1" | 17:46 |
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| stewie925 | I checked the nova table "networks" and it shows the id=1 | 17:47 |
| mriedem | stewie925: try microversion 2.35 | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Clean up instance on target node if evacuate fails https://review.openstack.org/375623 | 17:47 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: ohhh... how do I specify the microversion | 17:50 |
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| mriedem | --x-openstack-api-version 2.35 | 17:52 |
| mriedem | something like that | 17:52 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: thanks! let me try that | 17:52 |
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| danpb | sdague: do you have any idea if there's a time frame for getting CI off Trusty and onto Xenial vms entirely ? | 17:53 |
| mriedem | clarkb: ^ | 17:53 |
| clarkb | as quickly as people do it? | 17:54 |
| cfriesen | danpb: is it expected that the "qemu64" cpu model can't be used on an intel host with accel=kvm ? It's complaining about "svm" not being available on the host | 17:54 |
| danpb | (context: possible increase in min required libvirt in Pike cycle that would drop Trusty support) | 17:54 |
| clarkb | there is no timeframe because I try switching eg neutron and it turns out their functional testing is completely hsoed on it due to compiling their own kernel modules and other things | 17:54 |
| clarkb | and they haven't really been actively trying to fix it | 17:54 |
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| danpb | cfriesen: guess that's just a stupid definition of qemu64 | 17:55 |
| danpb | probably a historical mistake that can't be fixed now | 17:55 |
| danpb | clarkb: wow, neutron ci has custom kmods/!?!? that's nuts | 17:56 |
| clarkb | ovs too I think | 17:56 |
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| clarkb | so anyways. Most of the "core" projects are now running the majority of their jobs on xenial | 17:57 |
| clarkb | and the remainder of the big tent are slowly converting | 17:57 |
| * dansmith gossips that clarkb said "core projects" | 17:57 | |
| melwitt | stewie925: this is the doc for the novaclient cli http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-novaclient/shell.html OS_COMPUTE_API_VERSION or --os-compute-api-version are how you specify microversion | 17:57 |
| mriedem | core projects == integrated gate | 17:57 |
| mriedem | also, == super special treatment projects | 17:57 |
| stewie925 | melwitt: oh thank you | 17:58 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I believe the PC term is "the more equal projects" and "the more equal gate" | 17:58 |
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| sdague | danpb: like clarkb said, most stuff is over. I think it's fine to have pike have a minimum that trusty can't handle | 17:58 |
| danpb | ok, that's good to hear | 17:59 |
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| stewie925 | setting the OS_COMPUTE_API_VERSION=2.35 | 18:00 |
| sdague | danpb: you have a proposed patch up for the min libvirt next? | 18:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Remove scheduled_at attribute from instances table https://review.openstack.org/377950 | 18:00 |
| sdague | danpb: what were you thinking of as the bump point? | 18:00 |
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| claudiub | mriedem: hello. so, in newton we've had this blueprint partially completed: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-block-device-mapping-support . The remaining 2 patches from that blueprint didn't merge, so I've proposed another one for ocata: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-block-device-mapping-support-ocata Can you take a look pls? :D | 18:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Remove context object in oslo.log method https://review.openstack.org/317109 | 18:02 |
| claudiub | danpb: hello. Can you take another look at the hyper-v ovs vif driver patch pls? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140045/46 | 18:03 |
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| danpb | claudiub: not today - its evening time here now | 18:05 |
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| claudiub | danpb: i see. :) | 18:05 |
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| danpb | sdague: just posted one a short while ago, picking 1.2.9 and qemu 2.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377923/ | 18:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Fix database poison warnings, part 18 https://review.openstack.org/375899 | 18:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Archive instance-related rows when the parent instance is deleted https://review.openstack.org/377933 | 18:11 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: thank you - I was able to test successfully with the ID integer | 18:16 |
| stewie925 | melwitt: thanks for the micro-versioning setting tip :) | 18:17 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: comments in ps1 here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377933/1 | 18:27 |
| mriedem | was reviewing when you pushed ps2 | 18:27 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: thanks | 18:29 |
| dansmith | was just a pep8 fix | 18:29 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: derekh's database is 1.5GB uncompressed and has a lot of history in it, FYI | 18:30 |
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| mriedem | baggage | 18:31 |
| mriedem | things it doesn't want to talk about | 18:31 |
| dansmith | heh | 18:31 |
| dansmith | well, like any good therapist, I thrive on finding and exposing those things | 18:31 |
| dansmith | er, I mean, fixing those bugs | 18:31 |
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| sdague | dansmith: that late import is to work around cross importing modules? | 18:35 |
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| mriedem | it's a copy of what's in the existing archive code | 18:35 |
| dansmith | sdague: yes, present in the code already | 18:35 |
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| dansmith | it takes me like 45 minutes on my 32G machine to import this database and burn it down | 18:37 |
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| sdague | dansmith: +2 | 18:46 |
| artom | Can cloud admins specify which tenants have access to which flavors? | 18:46 |
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| dansmith | sdague: it's failing the live db test because I didn't update a unit test or something | 18:46 |
| dansmith | sdague: but yeah, thanks :) | 18:46 |
| dansmith | just to be clear, I mean the py34-db test :D | 18:47 |
| alaski | artom: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#os-flavor-access-v2.1 | 18:47 |
| artom | alaski, thank you :) I got there myself through Google https://blogs.rdoproject.org/5670/how-to-create-specific-nova-flavors-for-tenants | 18:47 |
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| artom | Apologies for the noise | 18:48 |
| alaski | no worries | 18:48 |
| artom | I thought 'no way I can just search for nova flavor tenant and get it' | 18:48 |
| artom | Wrong | 18:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766 | 18:48 |
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| sdague | dansmith: :) | 18:52 |
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| dansmith | sdague: those py34-db tests are running against mysql instead of sqlite, right? | 18:52 |
| sdague | dansmith: mostly not | 18:52 |
| sdague | db just means db servers exist there, iirc | 18:52 |
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| sdague | so the oportunistic tests run | 18:53 |
| dansmith | well, right | 18:53 |
| dansmith | s'what I mean | 18:53 |
| sdague | sure, but those are a pretty small subset | 18:53 |
| dansmith | but includes these I think | 18:53 |
| sdague | nothing in your code should have touched that | 18:53 |
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| sdague | hmmm... really? | 18:54 |
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| dansmith | the archive ones, right? they check a bunch of versions | 18:54 |
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| sdague | I don't think so | 18:54 |
| sdague | this error was definitely sqlite | 18:54 |
| sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/33/377933/2/check/gate-nova-python34-db/47f463b/console.html#_2016-09-27_18_30_57_658748 | 18:55 |
| dansmith | yeah, was just about to say | 18:55 |
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| melwitt | looks like max_rows is None somehow | 18:55 |
| dansmith | well, I dunno why I didn't hit that on py27 | 18:55 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: yeah, I know the issue | 18:55 |
| dansmith | just not sure why it would be non-deterministic | 18:55 |
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| sdague | max_rows type issue? | 18:55 |
| dansmith | no | 18:55 |
| melwitt | I thought max_rows is just a thing passed in from the command | 18:56 |
| dansmith | it's because I can return None from that extra handler | 18:56 |
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| dansmith | for the same reason as in the parent, I just didn't return 0 there | 18:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Archive instance-related rows when the parent instance is deleted https://review.openstack.org/377933 | 18:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Archive instance-related rows when the parent instance is deleted https://review.openstack.org/377933 | 19:03 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: I added a few more words and did away with 'double fault', so see if that makes it better for you | 19:04 |
| dansmith | mriedem: that code you thought was remove-able is still doing something for instance_actions that I'm not | 19:04 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: I'll follow up to this and excise it piece by piece, at least the migration part | 19:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Unwind circular import issue with api / utils https://review.openstack.org/377989 | 19:06 |
| sdague | dansmith: that just cleans up the import thing on top of your patch | 19:06 |
| dansmith | sdague: okay | 19:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Do not merge: Added nova patch to test LM https://review.openstack.org/377990 | 19:07 |
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| jaypipes | guh this resource classes patch has grown too big... need to figure out a way to cut it up... | 19:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.shutdown notifications https://review.openstack.org/329214 | 19:47 |
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| slaweq_ | eantyshev: hello, I have question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365756 to You | 19:50 |
| slaweq_ | I'm just changing it to properly handle values returned from python-libvirt library | 19:50 |
| slaweq_ | but can You tell me maybe what tests You expect for that? because in fact I don't know what else, except unit tests could I write there :/ | 19:51 |
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| mriedem | sdague: have you ever noticed that the coverage job doesn't run the functional tests? | 19:53 |
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| sdague | mriedem: I didn't, but honestly I can't tell you the last time I looked at the coverage data | 19:54 |
| mriedem | i do it everyone once in awhile on large refactors | 19:54 |
| mriedem | *every once | 19:54 |
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| mriedem | functional tests are also the only tests we have for the placement api... | 19:55 |
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| pumaranikar | dansmith, added a change to remove scheduled_at column from schema. Please review when you get time. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377950/ | 20:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Remove scheduled_at attribute from instances table https://review.openstack.org/377950 | 20:11 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: alaski: I still don't see the hook running.. it would be in console.log right? | 20:20 |
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| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/13/377113/4/check/gate-dg-hooks-dsvm/f82eeb3/logs/devstack-gate-post_test_hook.txt.gz | 20:21 |
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| mriedem | yeah i don't see it run here http://logs.openstack.org/13/377113/4/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/9ca40c5/console.html#_2016-09-27_18_56_19_389582 | 20:22 |
| mriedem | but that could just be something busted in my hack patch to test it | 20:22 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 20:22 |
| mriedem | there is a lot of bash in call_hook_if_defined that i'm not familiar with | 20:22 |
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| mriedem | we'd need sdague | 20:23 |
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| mriedem | when you're alone and scared and got some nasty bash in the basement, who ya gonna call? sdague. | 20:23 |
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| dansmith | or clarkb? | 20:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/nova: Clean up libvirt guest code https://review.openstack.org/365756 | 20:25 |
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| jaypipes | a fun day of netshits. | 20:27 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: please | 20:28 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: proper PC term is "net bowel movements" | 20:28 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i think i might know what's wrong | 20:30 |
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| mriedem | post_test_hook | 20:30 |
| mriedem | export -f post_test_hook | 20:30 |
| wznoinsk | mriedem: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104654.html , let me know if you need a bit more details on the issue here | 20:31 |
| mriedem | i think that's needed to export it and make it available to the functions.sh script | 20:31 |
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| mriedem | wznoinsk: should we make the intel nfv ci jobs non-voting then until it's fixed? | 20:32 |
| mriedem | because they are -1ing everything | 20:32 |
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| wznoinsk | mriedem: we've turn off commenting back to gerrit completely today http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova , I guess nv would be as good | 20:33 |
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| wznoinsk | s/turn/turned | 20:33 |
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| mriedem | non-voting would also work | 20:34 |
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| wznoinsk | will do it then going forward | 20:35 |
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| mriedem | anyone else want to get this in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209581/ ? | 20:47 |
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| mriedem | rosmaita: does glance enforce quota on image metadata/properties? | 20:52 |
| mriedem | does glance have quota at all? i thought that's why that new library was being created | 20:53 |
| rosmaita | mriedem: it has hard limits on properties | 20:53 |
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| rosmaita | same for all users, so not really quotas | 20:53 |
| rosmaita | no quota on number of images, just hard limit on total bytes allowed per tenant | 20:54 |
| mriedem | yeah so image size quota | 20:54 |
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| mriedem | i see the StorageQuotaFull exception | 20:54 |
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| mriedem | but nothing like quota_metadata_items in nova.conf? | 20:55 |
| rosmaita | pretty sure we have that, give me a sec | 20:55 |
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| rosmaita | mriedem: image_property_quota, default is 128 | 20:58 |
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| mriedem | ah ok great | 20:59 |
| mriedem | was just reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377528/1/deprecate-image-meta-proxy-api.rst | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | sdague: L42 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-Nova - so multiattach was actually a big ask at the ops thing? | 21:27 |
| sdague | mriedem: it was an ask by at least 2 groups iirc | 21:27 |
| sdague | the charter (nee: time warner) folks were the folks that first brought it up | 21:28 |
| sdague | ildikov was in the room as well, so was able to answer some of the status | 21:28 |
| mriedem | charter?! my very own cable provider. | 21:28 |
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| mikal | Morning | 21:30 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:30 |
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| mriedem | i guess we still need to do this for newton "Action: make sure there's a good release note for: in Newton, no longer need a policy.json file. policy.json is only for overrides" | 21:31 |
| melwitt | mikal: I've been meaning to ask you if you could have a look at this patch that's trying to handle config changes of force_config_drive=False to force_config_drive=True later in an instance's lifetime https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376452/ | 21:33 |
| mikal | melwitt: I shall take a look in about an hour? | 21:33 |
| melwitt | from reading the bug and previous patch attempts, I'm not sure if it's really a bug, or if there is more to it than simply "create the config drive if it doesn't exist" | 21:33 |
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| melwitt | mikal: sure, at your convenience | 21:34 |
| mriedem | dansmith: wasn't there something you said last week we should have a newton release note for? | 21:34 |
| mriedem | something with maybe db migrations? | 21:34 |
| dansmith | something | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Update rolling upgrade steps from upgrades documentation https://review.openstack.org/373549 | 21:36 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2016-09-23.log.html#t2016-09-23T21:20:48 | 21:37 |
| mriedem | dansmith: re: L138 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-Nova | 21:37 |
| dansmith | yep | 21:38 |
| mriedem | dansmith: want to push a release note to stable/newton for that, and i'll do one for the empty policy.json file? | 21:38 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I soooo want to yes | 21:38 |
| dansmith | mriedem: is this an upgrade: or preamble: thing you think? | 21:38 |
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| mriedem | make that dream a reality | 21:39 |
| mriedem | hmm, i don't use preface much | 21:39 |
| mriedem | i'd think upgrade | 21:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Let schema validate image metadata type and key lengths https://review.openstack.org/378048 | 21:41 |
| mriedem | sdague: ^ you may enjoy that | 21:41 |
| sdague | mriedem: nice | 21:42 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/378049 | 21:44 |
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| mriedem | alaski: with this reno: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/releasenotes/notes/policy-sample-defaults-changed-b5eea1daeb305251.yaml | 21:45 |
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| mriedem | alaski: we no longer have a sample policy.json | 21:45 |
| mriedem | so the reno is kind of weird now | 21:45 |
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| mriedem | alaski: i'm wondering if we should remove that, or re-word it to point out that with the policy defaults being in code, the shipped policy.json sample is now empty and is not necessary unless you want to override it | 21:46 |
| alaski | yeah, that's a shortcoming to how we do reno | 21:46 |
| mriedem | well, we can go back and fix the reno now before the newton release if we want | 21:46 |
| mriedem | i'm just not sure about wording | 21:47 |
| alaski | I think just remove the parts about it being in the shipped policy file | 21:47 |
| alaski | maybe change it to be about the default policies in Nova | 21:48 |
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| alaski | I dunno, I'll make an attempt and post it | 21:50 |
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| mriedem | i've got something | 21:50 |
| alaski | just as soon as I unsubscribe from the ML before my blood pressure gets too high | 21:50 |
| mriedem | orly | 21:50 |
| mriedem | oh i see | 21:51 |
| alaski | blood pressure yes, unsubscribe no | 21:51 |
| mriedem | always picking fights in the ML | 21:51 |
| melwitt | :) | 21:51 |
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| alaski | and I'm generally so peaceful outside of it, I don't know what it is | 21:53 |
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| melwitt | fwiw, I did not expect it to be a thing. I thought it was a couple of small changes for something really cool that I've wanted to exist for awhile, to be able to see a snapshot of log stats easily | 21:54 |
| alaski | yeah, I was just hoping to do a small cool thing for now and worry about getting fancy later | 21:55 |
| melwitt | yeah. I honestly thought we were just gonna merge it and experiment with it | 21:55 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: no, we can't do that | 21:57 |
| dansmith | melwitt: everything has to be multi-project else it's not fair | 21:58 |
| dansmith | or something | 21:58 |
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| melwitt | :) | 21:59 |
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| clarkb | have you spoken to SpamapS at all about it? I think he was working on similar stats collection for trend analysis in the past | 22:00 |
| clarkb | I want to say dstat was one of the initial versions used | 22:00 |
| alaski | I have not. It was just an idea that turned into a small script. | 22:01 |
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| melwitt | I don't know that this is about trend analysis. at least for me, I wanted to be able to have a quick snapshot delta that tells me "did this patch break something" comparing pre-patch to post-patch | 22:01 |
| dansmith | clarkb: I think alaski was more interested in a few numbers from a small script and less interested in making this an international incident | 22:02 |
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| alaski | exactly | 22:02 |
| alaski | I figured something small now was better than nothing until we get everyone on the same page with a generic framework | 22:03 |
| dansmith | alaski: little did you know, that was a very very wrong thing to do | 22:03 |
| mriedem | alaski: dansmith: fight over this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378057/ | 22:04 |
| alaski | after all this time you'd think I know how things work | 22:04 |
| ildikov | mriedem: sdague: TWC guys were in Austin as well IIRC along with a few other folks with interest in multi attach | 22:04 |
| dansmith | alaski: yeah, frankly I'm disappointed in you | 22:04 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: we aren't trying to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378055/ into newton rc2 are we? | 22:06 |
| mriedem | since it's latent | 22:06 |
| clarkb | heh | 22:06 |
| * clarkb has no opinions on where it should live | 22:06 | |
| clarkb | just mentioning spamaps might have similar useful things | 22:06 |
| alaski | dansmith: you and me both | 22:07 |
| alaski | mriedem: lgtm. also, we can remove the empty policy file now I think | 22:07 |
| SpamapS | Can somebody point me to the tl;dr? | 22:07 |
| alaski | mriedem: I need to check on the version of oslo.policy we require now, but the latest version should allow the file to be missing | 22:07 |
| mriedem | SpamapS: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104611.html | 22:07 |
| dansmith | mriedem: no, I just want it in newton eventually | 22:10 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah me too, ok cool | 22:10 |
| mriedem | i'll bug john and sylvain about the newton renos in the morning | 22:10 |
| mriedem | and probably put up rc2 tomorrow | 22:10 |
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| clarkb | SpamapS: was basically thinking creating statistics around number and type of log message was similar to what you were trying to do with dstat for other things | 22:24 |
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| stewie925 | hi , I have a question about 'tox -e api-samples' | 22:51 |
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| stewie925 | how do I specify which api-samples that I want to generate? | 22:51 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: yeah that's very similar to the thing I was doing with counting sql queries and rabbitmq messages | 23:10 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: I gave up on dstat, because it is a bonghits program | 23:10 |
| SpamapS | nice and pretty for screen, but the way plugins are written and the whole thing is just weird | 23:10 |
| SpamapS | The author actually gave me control of the repo, but I was already turned off to it. | 23:10 |
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| SpamapS | melwitt: the spec I did for QA was for the same reason. I wanted to make sure we didn't introduce something that produced a spike in DB activity. | 23:11 |
| SpamapS | alaski: ^ | 23:11 |
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| SpamapS | I would love to finish it. The collection is already setup to dump into subunit as an attachment, and then I have a patch up that puts that into statsd/graphite so we get a graph | 23:12 |
| SpamapS | so you can look at the trend for how many queries devstack-gate-x produces | 23:12 |
| SpamapS | but... I digress.. EOD'ing... will respond to thread tomorrow | 23:12 |
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| stewie925 | wondering how do I run 'tox -e api-samples' to specify that I want to generate all api-samples under ./nova/doc/api_samples/os-multinic | 23:19 |
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| stewie925 | if I just run 'tox -e api-samples' by itself, it goes through everything | 23:20 |
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