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| gmann | mriedem: just saw ping on swap volume things | 00:44 |
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| gmann | mriedem: actually that was on hold for policy mismatch in cinder and nova | 00:45 |
| gmann | mriedem: basically this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299830/ | 00:45 |
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| gmann | mriedem: but on stable branch nova default policy is admin_or_owner but tests (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299830/13) looks good as it tests for admin only case | 00:46 |
| gmann | mriedem: Thanks for updating that | 00:46 |
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| gmann | mriedem: on test side all fine but do you think we need nova default policy change for stable branch also (at least mitaka ?)- backporting of this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299830/ | 00:47 |
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| gmann | mriedem: sorry, backporting of this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299715/3 | 00:54 |
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| tdurakov | hi folks | 08:40 |
| tdurakov | I wonder is it possible to boot instance from volume that way, so instance has image_ref? | 08:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add supported vif types for virtuozzo virt_type https://review.openstack.org/365943 | 09:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: enable vif driver configuring for virtuozzo https://review.openstack.org/383595 | 09:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | pawnesh kumar proposed openstack/nova: Added py35 to tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/383611 | 09:36 |
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| sfinucan | cfriesen_: Looking now | 09:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: clear instance.root_device_name while ignoring user device name https://review.openstack.org/214314 | 10:12 |
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| prateek | johnthetubaguy, can you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294513/ , it had your +2 but had some alignment nits so i have made a new patch ,mriedem has given a +2 , so it would be good if you can take a look | 10:12 |
| prateek | sfinucan, for developing and testing sriov related code, do you use a physical machine for that ? | 10:13 |
| mdbooth | How much does Nova trust Cinder? | 10:13 |
| mdbooth | Is it cool to say, for eg, that if Cinder is compromised then Nova is also compromised? | 10:14 |
| prateek | i dont see them having trust issues at the moment :) | 10:14 |
| mdbooth | prateek: Hehe, also a valid concern :) | 10:15 |
| prateek | :D | 10:15 |
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| prateek | sfinucan, do you make a devstack on physical machine for sriov or if anyone has any idea how to do that | 10:16 |
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| chaitu | Hi all , When iam trying to launch an instance i find this error(unable to allocate networks) in my nova.log can someone please help | 10:24 |
| chaitu | http://paste.openstack.org/show/584795/ | 10:24 |
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| dulek | johnthetubaguy: Hi, do you remember the boundaries of cross-service API compatibility between OpenStack versions? | 10:45 |
| mdbooth | danpb lyarwood: Just thinking over mounting directories for volumes. We currently allow mount options to be specified in connection_info, but if it's already mounted we don't remount it. Are those 2 things consistent? | 10:45 |
| dulek | johnthetubaguy: I mean - how long Cinder would need to support old API if Nova started to talk with new API in X version? | 10:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | dulek: sorry, not sure I get your question | 10:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | dulek: ah... | 10:45 |
| dulek | Do we have that formalized? | 10:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | dulek: so I am not sure we have been very crisp on that, I think Cinder N-1 has to work with Nova N, at a minimum (and v.v.) | 10:46 |
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| dulek | I know people mix services versions and I can imagine someone running Kilo Nova with Mitaka's Cinder for example. | 10:46 |
| mdbooth | I guess that's a cinder question: are mount options in this case per-volume, or associated with some common backend object in all cases? | 10:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | dulek: yeah, right now I believe N-6 probably works in the case of cinder | 10:47 |
| lyarwood | mdbooth: I'm pretty sure they are treated as common across the backend and not per volume | 10:47 |
| dulek | johnthetubaguy: :) I understand N-1 is a minimum from the perspective of upgrades. | 10:47 |
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| mdbooth | lyarwood: Thanks | 10:48 |
| dulek | johnthetubaguy: Some Cinder folks said that that period is formalized. Apparently it isn't, so we need to do anything with common sense I think. | 10:48 |
| dulek | johnthetubaguy: Thanks! | 10:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | dulek: so for public APIs, I don't think we should ever drop support (where ever might mean 5 years, I duno) | 10:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | dulek: it may be formalised and I don't know | 10:48 |
| dulek | johnthetubaguy: Yup, I understand that, but Cinder's attach-detach interfaces weren't really exposed to the users, so hopefully some less strict rules can be applied. | 10:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | dulek: possibly, yeah, although the new and old are turning out quite similar in some ways | 10:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dulek: probably this tag comes into play here: https://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html | 10:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dulek: probably want to just ask the operators, when we understand what the impact would be | 10:52 |
| dulek | johnthetubaguy: Might be. We'll probably end up asking ops to give us Cinder-Nova version combinations they use. I just wondered if there isn't a concrete number to advertise in my summit presentation. | 10:52 |
| dulek | johnthetubaguy: Thanks for help! | 10:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dulek: I think we run something like Folsom or Grizzly Cinder with Nova Mitaka, but I could be remembering that wrong. | 10:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dulek: I guess it must be newer than that, but not 100% sure | 10:54 |
| dulek | johnthetubaguy: I thought Cinder emerged from Nova in Grizzly. :D | 10:55 |
| sdague | dulek: I'm pretty sure it was Folsom | 10:55 |
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| sdague | it was definitely a fall release | 10:56 |
| dulek | sdague: Yup, you're right: https://releases.openstack.org/folsom/index.html. Thanks for correcting me. | 10:57 |
| * dulek 's first OpenStack ever deployed was Folsom. | 10:58 | |
| chaitu | can some one helpme with this issue http://paste.openstack.org/show/584795/ | 10:59 |
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| cdent | edleafe, sdague, johnthetubaguy : do you have anything you'd like to add, remove, adjust on http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/104900.html | 11:02 |
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| sfinucan | prateek: Most of the time, yes, but I haven't done it in a few months | 11:05 |
| sfinucan | devstack can definitely do it for you though | 11:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: thats a good question, that captures the things I remember, and a few of the ones I already forgot about | 11:13 |
| cdent | yeah, the forgetting about is why I wrote it up, because I was starting to forget | 11:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: will reply if something pops into my head, thanks for getting those down! | 11:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: +1 | 11:13 |
| cdent | One thing that would be especially useful is some insight on how those things need to be tracked (bugs, bps, etc) if at all. | 11:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: they are probably good bits to get other folks to do, as its not heavily dependent on the core track of the work, some of the OSIC folks should be able to help with some of those | 11:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ah, tracking... most of those look like they could be a specless blueprint, if thats helpful | 11:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | the microversions stuff for the API, did we not capture that in the original spec? | 11:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: [libvirt] Incorrect parameters passed during init_host https://review.openstack.org/324303 | 11:17 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: we captured that microversions should happens, and the basics are in place but the handling of different microversions is not yet in place | 11:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: good, thats what I thought, I recon a specless BP that points at the previous agreement could track that. Would that work? | 11:18 |
| cdent | yup | 11:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | raj_singh: you might be interested in taking on some of these tasks, as I know you were interested in getting more involved in scheduler things: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/104900.html | 11:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: not sure if raj_singh or sneti_ found you yesterday, but they have been testing out Mitaka -> Newton with a mix of api nodes and a mix of compute nodes, and seem to have tempest passing when pointed at both the old and new nodes | 11:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I am wondering if we should/could add that into grenade multi-node, in the short term? I know you said mixed API nodes would ideally be a single box test, but that feels further away | 11:22 |
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| sahid | johnthetubaguy: I think Daniel responded to your interrogations here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356383/ | 11:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Strict isolation of group of hosts for image and flavor https://review.openstack.org/381912 | 11:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: didn't see that, will try go through that again | 11:28 |
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| prateek | johnthetubaguy, i am interested in owning up some tasks from this list http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/104900.html, is there a place from where i can assign them to myself and start working on them ? | 11:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: couldn't get my head around why it was independent of the other VMs on that host, need to take a wider look at the code to understand whats going on there, I keep loosing context on that | 11:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | prateek: unsure, I would ask that question on the ML, its a good question. We might want an etherpad to co-ordinate things, cdent may have some good ideas | 11:31 |
| prateek | johnthetubaguy, thanks ! i would try to get in tough with cdent | 11:31 |
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| cdent | prateek: I'm here, but yeah, I agree responding to the message would be great so we can keep everyone interested in the loop | 11:32 |
| cdent | probably the right thing to do is transfer the list to an etherpad, but let's work it out in email? | 11:32 |
| prateek | cdent, sounds pretty good | 11:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add _rebuild_instance helper method https://review.openstack.org/376004 | 11:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Body verification for os-simple-tenant-usage.inc https://review.openstack.org/383683 | 11:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Body verification for os-simple-tenant-usage.inc https://review.openstack.org/383683 | 11:47 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: as the cross project liaison I've been explicitly invited to https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16921/cross-project-workshops-where-to-draw-the-line-for-proprietary-code-with-drivers but that conficts with the python 3 integration testing cp meeting that i'd like to attend. is there a nova person who will already be attending or someone who should? | 11:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: pi-ref: Body verification for os-hypervisors.inc https://review.openstack.org/383691 | 11:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.reboot notifications https://review.openstack.org/382959 | 12:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add context param to confirm_migration virt call https://review.openstack.org/383699 | 12:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: unsure, but a very good question. I was thinking of attending the drivers one over python3 as well, unsure where sdague was thinking of landing with that one. | 12:26 |
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| markus_z | danpb: I successfully tested your qemu fix for virtlogd with a devstack setup: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1597789/comments/5 and I copied the spec from Newton to Ocata for re-approval https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382526/. If time/workload permits, I'd appreciate your input there. | 12:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1599214 in QEMU "duplicate for #1597789 virtlogd: qemu 2.6.0 doesn't log boot message" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Daniel Berrange (berrange) | 12:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Move consoleauth options to a group https://review.openstack.org/356611 | 12:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add Hierarchy info https://review.openstack.org/383726 | 13:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add child_hard_limits column https://review.openstack.org/383727 | 13:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota: Set default values to subproject https://review.openstack.org/383728 | 13:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add nested quota support https://review.openstack.org/383729 | 13:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Attempt to resolve TODOs in scheduler.py https://review.openstack.org/374647 | 13:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Group scheduler options https://review.openstack.org/349959 | 13:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Deprecate 'scheduler_json_file_location' https://review.openstack.org/374121 | 13:36 |
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| mriedem | https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Cross%20Project%20workshops%3A | 13:45 |
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| mriedem | there are 2 sessions on scaling review teams and project decomposition | 13:45 |
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| bauwser | yeah | 13:46 |
| bauwser | not back-to-back because TC wanted to sleep between those :p | 13:46 |
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| mriedem | i don't actually expect TC people there | 13:47 |
| mriedem | but at least the xp sessions this time are only between 2 choices per time slot, unlike austin that had 3 per slot | 13:48 |
| mriedem | so you had to make hard choices sometimes | 13:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I didn't like the three in parallel | 13:49 |
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| johnthetubaguy | having said that, still making hard choices between some of those sessions myself. | 13:49 |
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| gibi | mriedem: hi! could you remove your procedural -2 from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329214/ also it is one of the notification transformation patch that is ready for code review | 13:52 |
| gibi | s/code/core/ | 13:52 |
| mriedem | gibi: done | 13:52 |
| gibi | mriedem: thanks | 13:53 |
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| cdent | sorry johnthetubaguy was away for your earlier response about the proprietary drivers cp session, it sounds like at least one person with reasonable context will be there, we're just not yet sure whoo | 13:58 |
| cdent | i'll let the orchestrator know | 13:58 |
| figleaf | cdent: thanks for setting up the etherpad. | 14:00 |
| * cdent bows | 14:00 | |
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| figleaf | cdent: although it looks like a pumpkin typed it :) | 14:00 |
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| cdent | figleaf: THAT'S PUMPKIN SPICE ETHERPAD RIGHT THERE YO | 14:01 |
| figleaf | :) | 14:01 |
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| cdent | Each year, the Great Pumpkin rises out of the pumpkin patch that he thinks is the most sincere. | 14:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Patch mkisofs calls https://review.openstack.org/383524 | 14:03 |
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| raj_singh | johnthetubaguy: Thx, I will take a look | 14:05 |
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| claudiub | danpb: hi. if you have some free time, can you take a look at the hyper-v ovs vif plug thingy? Thanks! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140045/ | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | claudiub: i have a comment in there | 14:14 |
| mriedem | claudiub: there is going to need to be an os-vif release and some dependency management | 14:15 |
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| claudiub | mriedem: ack, you're right. ty. :) | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/nova: Add portgroups support to ironic virt driver https://review.openstack.org/382438 | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | jroll: isn't ^ a new feature? | 14:29 |
| jroll | mriedem: indeed | 14:29 |
| mriedem | jroll: my recollection is that the portgroup stuff was decoupled from tenant networking support | 14:29 |
| mriedem | in newton | 14:29 |
| jroll | oh, we probably need a blueprint for that | 14:29 |
| jroll | right | 14:29 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:29 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:30 |
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| jroll | I'll get it done | 14:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Fix body_map and body in unit tests https://review.openstack.org/363457 | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Béla Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.shelve_offload notifications https://review.openstack.org/377239 | 15:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add child_hard_limits column https://review.openstack.org/383727 | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota: Set default values to subproject https://review.openstack.org/383728 | 15:05 |
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| pjm6 | Hi there | 15:06 |
| pjm6 | I'm trying to use live migration (already have a shared storage) and configured KVM to use a custom CPU (because the two compute hosts have different CPU) | 15:07 |
| pjm6 | but when I do live migrate, horizon don't give me error but don't do nothing | 15:07 |
| pjm6 | and i'm getting an error | 15:07 |
| pjm6 | WARNING nova.virt.libvirt.imagecache Unknown base file | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | JABAR ALI proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Author: Jabar Ali <jabbar.ali@gmail.com> Date: Thu Oct 6 16:59:37 2016 +0530 Summary : It is found that after running the test cases it is found that voulmes were leaking and it is not detaching. as per the expectation when nova api is used to detach th https://review.openstack.org/382864 | 15:09 |
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| sneti_ | johnthetubaguy, can you please check my comments on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338553/ | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for interval_opts https://review.openstack.org/331761 | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota: Set default values to subproject https://review.openstack.org/383728 | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add nested quota support https://review.openstack.org/383729 | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add child_hard_limits column https://review.openstack.org/383727 | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add Hierarchy info https://review.openstack.org/383726 | 15:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julian proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.snapshot notifications https://review.openstack.org/330128 | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Enable cold migration with target host https://review.openstack.org/357105 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for network options. https://review.openstack.org/341203 | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add functional tests for cold migration with target https://review.openstack.org/368557 | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: add get_all_by_root_provider_uuid() https://review.openstack.org/377215 | 15:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement - add nested resource providers https://review.openstack.org/377138 | 15:43 |
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| leakypipes | sfinucan: thx for your review on ^. Addressed your concerns. | 15:44 |
| sfinucan | leakypipes: cool - I'll check it out now | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bence Romsics proposed openstack/nova: WIP Remove limitation on length of meta values https://review.openstack.org/383801 | 15:46 |
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| danpb | log | 15:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sneti_: sorry, just looking, maybe just a constant in the cmd file would be easier? | 16:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/nova: Add nova-manage command to lower case metadata https://review.openstack.org/329737 | 16:10 |
| mtreinish | auggy: ^^^ now with the extra tests you asked for | 16:11 |
| auggy | mtreinish: awesome!! | 16:11 |
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| auggy | diana: thanks for mocking that _make_iso9660 call, i ran across that too and had filed a bug :) i left a comment on your patch | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Patch mkisofs calls https://review.openstack.org/383524 | 16:16 |
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| diana | auggy: done, thanks! | 16:16 |
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| auggy | thanks diana ! i'll try out your patch on my vm where i had the issue and then +1 you when it passes :) | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Added CLI args for nova-policy check command https://review.openstack.org/382915 | 16:18 |
| leakypipes | ? | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: allocations for generic PCI devices https://review.openstack.org/375168 | 16:19 |
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| auggy | mtreinish: i've got all the unit tests passing and removed the image metatdata stuff from my patch in the same series, still just working on fixing a couple failng functional tests | 16:21 |
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| auggy | mtreinish: it should be ready to rebase today tho :) we gotta get this in to grab that microversion ahahah | 16:22 |
| mtreinish | auggy: heh, ok I'll keep an eye out for that and rebase when needed | 16:22 |
| auggy | mtreinish: kk, i'll notify you when it's ready.. should be in a few hours, i've got an appointment in a bit | 16:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feodor Tersin proposed openstack/nova: Fix cold migration with qcow2 ephemeral disks https://review.openstack.org/346263 | 16:26 |
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| sneti_ | johnthetubaguy, ya..so we can add constants in each cmd/<<service>> file and then call it from the tests. | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Feodor Tersin proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Change condition of root disk snapshot handling https://review.openstack.org/382030 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Feodor Tersin proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Remove backward compatibility checks for disk snapshots https://review.openstack.org/382031 | 16:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | sneti_: I guess that should be a smaller change, which sounds like a good way to go about it | 16:32 |
| leakypipes | superdan: you're welcome. https://twitter.com/jaypipes/status/784431123581562880 | 16:33 |
| sneti_ | thanks johnthetubaguy..will do that | 16:33 |
| superdan | leakypipes: lol nice | 16:33 |
| superdan | leakypipes: especially like the analog tweet and hashtag | 16:34 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: :) | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: ENOENT error on '/dev/log' https://review.openstack.org/383770 | 16:42 |
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| jlk | Hi there. Is there somebody around who can help me walk through how nova decides how much space to sparse up on a image cache file when it downloads it from Glance and sets it up as a base file for an instance? I thought it was simply either the on-disk size of the image file, or the 'min_size' value if set in the image info, but I'm seeing in some testing that this is not the case. | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Check the destination host in cold migration https://review.openstack.org/371269 | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add functional tests for check dest on cold migration https://review.openstack.org/371277 | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Check for volume size https://review.openstack.org/348317 | 16:58 |
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| melwitt | diana: I had been meaning to ask mdbooth about whether he intended to run the mkisofs_cmd in the tests he refactored, so if he could take a look at https://review.openstack.org/383524 it would be good to know if it's cool to mock them or if we instead need a new test dependency | 17:00 |
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| mdbooth | melwitt: auggy was asking about something related too. | 17:01 |
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| mdbooth | I don't care specifically abount mkisofs/genisofs/super_awesome_iso_makulator | 17:02 |
| mdbooth | And I agree that it's less than ideal to execute it in a unit test | 17:02 |
| melwitt | mdbooth: okay, cool. thanks! | 17:02 |
| mdbooth | It was my preference to wrap this in a mini util function | 17:02 |
| mdbooth | Then we mock the util function | 17:03 |
| mdbooth | BUT.... | 17:03 |
| mdbooth | I also think we should create a functional test which calls it, then inspects what was created | 17:03 |
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| mdbooth | Because without that we have no sanity check around, eg, command line arguments | 17:03 |
| melwitt | yeah | 17:04 |
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| leakypipes | thx for the review on that resource class cache patch, superdan. answered your questions. | 17:05 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: replied again | 17:07 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: I'm depending on the hurricane taking out your internet or power before the day is out as a limiting factor on these reviews | 17:08 |
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| superdan | maybe you can set your pug outside to wash of the fish smell too | 17:08 |
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| melwitt | superdan: pug got a bath, you gotta stay up-to-date on twitter | 17:09 |
| superdan | hehe | 17:09 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: :) | 17:12 |
| diana | melwitt: Yeah, I spent a bunch of time reading the diff that introduced those errors, and determined mkisofs coverage probably wasn't the intent. | 17:12 |
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| jlk | oh is it casual nick friday? | 17:15 |
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| jroll | omgwtfjlk: ++ | 17:17 |
| omgwtfjlk | jroll: true story, my actual IBM email ID is "omgjlk@us.ibm.com". That's not an alias. | 17:18 |
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| jroll | amazing | 17:19 |
| omgwtfjlk | Found a person who can set those things, and he gave 0 fucks. | 17:19 |
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| omgwtfjlk | So yeah, anyway, some help with disk usage would be great. | 17:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Add image_meta when unshelving volume backend vm https://review.openstack.org/347063 | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: Add volume status check when deleting instances https://review.openstack.org/260339 | 17:22 |
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| cfriesen_ | omgwtfjlk: I think the disk usage is coming from LibvirtDriver._get_local_gb_info(), which calls libvirt_utils.get_fs_info(), which just calls statvfs() to get free/used/total from the underlying OS. | 17:44 |
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| cfriesen_ | omgwtfjlk: then disk_available_least is supposed to account for overcommit, but there are some issues with it. | 17:45 |
| omgwtfjlk | cfriesen_: hrm, so what I see is that the image file in glance is taking up 1.2G of space, but when nova downloads it and stuffs it in _base/ it gets sparse expanded up to 80G (which was the original flavor size of the instance I took a snapshot of) | 17:46 |
| omgwtfjlk | cfriesen_: I booted a cirros image on a 80G flavor VM, snapshotted the VM to get the image | 17:46 |
| omgwtfjlk | on-disk was 1.2G, "size_min" was 80G. | 17:46 |
| omgwtfjlk | I tried adjusting size_min to like 5G or 0, in both cases when nova downloaded it was still marked as 80G | 17:47 |
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| cfriesen_ | if the instance had an 80g disk, then the snapshot is going to be for 80G. Otherwise you'd have to resize the filesystem down and Nova doesn't do that. | 17:48 |
| omgwtfjlk | hrm, then why is the image file in the glance store only 1.2G? | 17:48 |
| omgwtfjlk | and the image info lists it as that size? | 17:48 |
| cfriesen_ | the original image file is 1.2G. You boot an instance with an 80G disk and depending on the software running in the guest it may expand the filesystem to take up the full 80 | 17:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Jabbar Ali proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Resolving volume sync issue in from databases before deleting the volumes. https://review.openstack.org/382864 | 17:49 |
| cfriesen_ | or it may allocate new partitions, or whatever....nova doesn't know. | 17:49 |
| omgwtfjlk | I'm talking about the snapshot image size | 17:50 |
| omgwtfjlk | | size | 1311768576 | | 17:50 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add spec to use Cinder's new attachment APIs https://review.openstack.org/373203 | 17:50 |
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| omgwtfjlk | and a ls -alh of the file in the glance store agrees with that size | 17:50 |
| cfriesen_ | omgwtfjlk: that I don't know. is that raw or qcow2? | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Jabbar Ali proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Resolving volume sync issue from databases before deleting the volumes. https://review.openstack.org/382864 | 17:51 |
| omgwtfjlk | I think it's qcow. | 17:51 |
| cfriesen_ | omgwtfjlk: try running "qemu-img info <imagefile>" | 17:51 |
| omgwtfjlk | there's a couple things at play | 17:51 |
| omgwtfjlk | virtual size: 80G (85899345920 bytes) | 17:51 |
| omgwtfjlk | disk size: 1.2G | 17:52 |
| omgwtfjlk | ah, where is that virtual size coming from? | 17:52 |
| cfriesen_ | omgwtfjlk: the qcow2 image format will compress the image...so anything zeros or unwritten gets removed from the image file. There's 1.2G of actual nonzero data, but it's an 80 | 17:53 |
| cfriesen_ | whoops, it's an 80G image. | 17:53 |
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| omgwtfjlk | Perhaps it's 80, because when the instance was booted, we're using preallocate_image = space, so there was an fallocate call on the overlay file to allocate 80G worth of blocks. | 17:54 |
| cfriesen_ | Even without that it'd still be 80 because the flavor specified 80. | 17:54 |
| omgwtfjlk | I see. Is there no way to make that not happen? | 17:55 |
| omgwtfjlk | so that the image file is only as large as the data used within it? | 17:56 |
| cfriesen_ | logically it has to happen...once the instance boots up nova has no idea what it's done with it's disk, and so it needs to snapshot the whole virtual disk. You can't boot an 80G virtual disk image with a flavor that only has a 2G virtual disk. | 17:56 |
| omgwtfjlk | no, I get that, I'm not trying to do that | 17:57 |
| omgwtfjlk | but this customer is snapshotting 300G VMs, that are actually only using about 10 gigs | 17:57 |
| omgwtfjlk | so the snapshot is "300G" in size, once Nova gets ahold of it | 17:57 |
| cfriesen_ | tell them not to use 300G vms. :) | 17:57 |
| omgwtfjlk | lol, I wish. | 17:57 |
| omgwtfjlk | I could ask them to not use windows too, but... | 17:57 |
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| omgwtfjlk | or to not depend on snapshots as a mechanism to avoid re-deploying with sanity in mind | 17:58 |
| cfriesen_ | better would be to have minimal rootfs disks with persistent data on a cinder volume. | 17:59 |
| omgwtfjlk | well yes, we're strongly urging the customer to add block storage to their cloud, but so far they've been extremely resistant to expand the cluster | 17:59 |
| omgwtfjlk | sadly there in a state now where there's no more room on the glance servers to store any more snapshots | 18:00 |
| omgwtfjlk | and no more room on the HVs themselves to _create_ the snapshots (without some clever playing around with nova configs during snapshots to use another filesystem temporarily). | 18:00 |
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| cfriesen_ | I would have thought the snapshots would only consume 1.2G (in the above case) on the glance storage. | 18:04 |
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| omgwtfjlk | they do | 18:05 |
| omgwtfjlk | but this customer has compute resources on the controllers (where glance is stored) | 18:05 |
| omgwtfjlk | also against advisement | 18:05 |
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| omgwtfjlk | so the nova disk consumption is edging out glance storage ability | 18:05 |
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| omgwtfjlk | When we sized this with the customer, we were booting from a smaller base windows image, and all the instances were sharing that image, so the overhead was much lower. | 18:06 |
| omgwtfjlk | 3 instances on a HV all sharing the same base image meant not a lot of overhead. | 18:06 |
| omgwtfjlk | but somewhere along the line, snapshots started to get used to move VMs around (instead of rebuilding them), so you wind up with 2 or 3 VMs on a given HV all from different (giant) snapshots | 18:07 |
| omgwtfjlk | the overhead ballooned quickly | 18:07 |
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| cfriesen_ | yeah, that's not really a scenario that nova handles well. theoretically if you had image file X and snapshot image Y (which was based on X) you could "deduplicate" them and convert Y into a delta image using X as backing store. But you'd have to do that manually, nova won't do it. | 18:11 |
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| cfriesen_ | and nova isn't really designed to track the dependencies in that sort of usage. | 18:11 |
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| omgwtfjlk | yeah, and we're not going to do that for the customer | 18:12 |
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| omgwtfjlk | anyway I think I'm going to write up a block post about how this all works, because I struggled to put the pieces together. Hopefully I can have some of y'all review it before publishing. | 18:15 |
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| omgwtfjlk | what I really don't have a grasp on right now is what Nova is using for disk_available_least | 18:21 |
| omgwtfjlk | but given we don't have DiskFilter turned on, that's less of a concern for us, but should be called out in the blog | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Fix races with nfs volume mount/umount https://review.openstack.org/383859 | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Fix races with smb volume mount/umount https://review.openstack.org/383860 | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Fix races with glusterfs volume mount/umount https://review.openstack.org/383861 | 18:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Changed the name of the standard resource classes https://review.openstack.org/382669 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: change resource class to a StringField https://review.openstack.org/379656 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: add cache for resource classes https://review.openstack.org/379655 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: add new resource_classes table https://review.openstack.org/379654 | 18:56 |
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| thorst_ | mriedem: has the unconference etherpad been made yet? Was hoping to put that PowerVM BP topic in there early on. | 19:05 |
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| mriedem | thorst_: not yet | 19:11 |
| mriedem | thorst_: i'll reserve you a spot when i do | 19:11 |
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| mriedem | are there any easy wins i can get in on a friday afternoon? | 19:42 |
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| lascii | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374323/ | 19:43 |
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| mriedem | mmm ripe migrations | 19:45 |
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| diana | mriedem: poison warnings? | 19:47 |
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| mriedem | mmm poison | 19:48 |
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| diana | mriedem: this one already has a +2, so it'll probably be pretty easy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383524/ | 19:48 |
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| mriedem | ok | 19:48 |
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| mriedem | i also need to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331810/ | 19:49 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: lascii: eww quota_classes in the api db, | 19:52 |
| mriedem | i guess we have to move them for now | 19:52 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: heh. as opposed to nuking them, you mean? | 19:53 |
| mriedem | yeah | 19:53 |
| mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/only-default-quota-class | 19:54 |
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| melwitt | a-ha | 19:54 |
| mriedem | i guess with ^ we'd still have the DB | 19:54 |
| mriedem | that bp is really about making the api less terrible | 19:54 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: you went a bit overboard with the indent here :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331810/5/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api_migrations/migrate_repo/versions/026_quotas.py@78 | 19:58 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: hey, that was doffm :) but I didn't notice it was different than the other indents when I scanned over it for anything to add/change. I can change it if you want | 20:01 |
| mriedem | let me go through the rest of this first | 20:01 |
| mriedem | crazy ass doffm | 20:01 |
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| melwitt | :) | 20:01 |
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| mriedem | it's funny we have an index on quota_classes.class_name | 20:07 |
| mriedem | it's a single row table unless you're maybe rackspace from 2012 | 20:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | pawnesh kumar proposed openstack/nova: Fix some PEP8 issues and Openstack Licensing https://review.openstack.org/383924 | 20:21 |
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| omgwtfjlk | Anybody around to preview a blog post about nova, images, disks, and HV space consumption? | 22:03 |
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| kfox1111_ | anyone ever seen this one before on a nova-compute: http://pastebin.com/RYHsLUCD ? | 22:47 |
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