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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1631647 in neutron "Network downtime during live migration through routers" [Undecided,New] | 00:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dao Cong Tien proposed openstack/nova: Ironic Driver: override get_serial_console() https://review.openstack.org/328157 | 09:13 |
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| tdurakov | markus_z: hi | 09:26 |
| markus_z | tdurakov: hey ho | 09:27 |
| tdurakov | markus_z: caught cold, so took pto for yesterday, so, what's up | 09:27 |
| markus_z | tdurakov: ah, get well soon. | 09:28 |
| tdurakov | markus_z: were you pinging me yesterday? | 09:28 |
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| tdurakov | 1400 utc | 09:30 |
| tdurakov | as usual | 09:30 |
| tdurakov | if no, I could bring this up | 09:31 |
| markus_z | I will attend then, thanks | 09:31 |
| tdurakov | ok, | 09:31 |
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| frickler | tdurakov: so the bugs meeting earlier did not happen or did I just miss it? I was about to bring up https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1597596 | 09:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597596 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "network not always cleaned up when spawning VMs" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Aihua Edward Li (aihuaedwardli) | 09:40 |
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| tdurakov | frickler: hi, sorry I was on pto, see above | 09:41 |
| tdurakov | frickler: what exactly on that do you want to discuss? | 09:42 |
| frickler | tdurakov: there seems to be no progress, so I was wondering whether it makes sense to unassign and allow someone else to take over. I tried to tackle it myself, but I couldn't find out why the adresses don't get saved into the db properly | 09:43 |
| tdurakov | frickler: I think it make sense to ack in a bug as a comment, whether is it ok to re-assign it or not | 09:44 |
| tdurakov | frickler: if no response for some time, I think it's ok to change assignee | 09:44 |
| frickler | tdurakov: ok, I'll do that | 09:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: WIP: libvirt: iothreads: add domain XML elements (1/?) https://review.openstack.org/384871 | 09:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova-specs: Websockify security proxy framework https://review.openstack.org/346821 | 09:56 |
| mah | Hi all, I have a problem with jcloud and nova api v2.1 .. anyone could help me please ? | 09:56 |
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| mah | #jclouds | 10:03 |
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| rnoriega | oomichi, hi!! thanks for the indo | 10:14 |
| rnoriega | oomichi, I didn't leave the channel...it was just a bit late to work for me :-D | 10:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add swap volume notifications (start, end) https://review.openstack.org/250283 | 10:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Strict isolation of group of hosts for image and flavor https://review.openstack.org/381912 | 10:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: conf: Move api options to a group https://review.openstack.org/384490 | 10:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.rebuild notification https://review.openstack.org/384922 | 10:39 |
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| wznoinsk_ | hey3 | 10:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: use portgroups https://review.openstack.org/206163 | 11:05 |
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| jroll | johnthetubaguy: how does this look to you? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/ironic-portgroups-support | 11:06 |
| jroll | think we need a spec there? | 11:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: it touches neutron, and we kinda planning on changing how we talk to neutron, so I think it has to be a yes to a spec | 11:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: although, the code looks like its fairly driver contained? | 11:07 |
| jroll | johnthetubaguy: yeah, it doesn't actually touch neutron, it's all in the driver, see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206163/ | 11:08 |
| jroll | (I guess you did) | 11:08 |
| jroll | I can add more detail in the BP at some point today, if you'd like | 11:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jroll: yeah, maybe a note around the scope would help there | 11:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: whats the QA plan for that? | 11:10 |
| jroll | johnthetubaguy: so cirros doesn't have bonding enabled in any released version today, I think we plan to work with them to release an image with the kmods enabled | 11:12 |
| jroll | cloud-init does support it | 11:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, I remember talk about that | 11:12 |
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| jroll | johnthetubaguy: the code today works in vasyl's manual testing with cirros+bonding, though I know that doesn't mean much :) | 11:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jroll: I mean thats good, but yeah, I suspect there will be pointed questions around QA | 11:17 |
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| jroll | johnthetubaguy: indeed | 11:18 |
| * jroll updates the BP | 11:18 | |
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| jroll | johnthetubaguy: updated the whiteboard, can have vasyl move it to the description if needed | 11:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jroll: copied that over so its harder to loose it | 11:27 |
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| jroll | thanks | 11:28 |
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| jroll | I couldn't update it for some reason | 11:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | permissions are a bit funny in there | 11:31 |
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| tojuvone | johnthetubaguy: I was thinking about the host_maintenance_uuid vs. url. Maybe the uuid would be actually better to have different url for diffrent project. | 12:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: doc: Comment on latin1 vs utf8 charsets https://review.openstack.org/384548 | 12:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: doc: Rewrap 'code-review' at ¬79 characters https://review.openstack.org/384960 | 12:05 |
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| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: I realise it's long, but any chance I could get a look at this change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349959/ | 12:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add swap volume notifications (error) https://review.openstack.org/328055 | 12:10 |
| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: I can break it up if needed, but it could be a bit artificial? | 12:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova-specs: Websockify security proxy framework https://review.openstack.org/346821 | 12:31 |
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| danpawlik | Hello, for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1630929 should I create just nova specs to review or create a blueprint on launchpad ? | 12:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630929 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Affinity instance slot reservation" [Wishlist,Opinion] | 12:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: I do keep meaning to go through that one, and that series again | 12:43 |
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| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: Yup, I just terrified of the merge conflict potential of that patch | 12:44 |
| sfinucan | If there's anything I can do to make it easier, just let me know | 12:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I will try take a look in a little bit | 12:44 |
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| mah | Hi all, I have a problem with jcloud and nova api v2.1 .. anyone could help me please ? | 12:45 |
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| sfinucan | mah: #openstack is the better place for usage questions. You'd have better luck there :) | 12:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: block_device: Make refresh_conn_infos py3 compatible https://review.openstack.org/342111 | 12:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for libvirt options https://review.openstack.org/372761 | 12:56 |
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| sfinucan | lbeliveau: You chairing the SR-IOV meeting again? | 13:01 |
| sfinucan | lbeliveau: Wait - just saw moshele's mail | 13:01 |
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| lbeliveau | sfinucan: moshele prefered to cancel for next 2 weeks, until the summit | 13:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed openstack/nova-specs: XenAPI: add common os-xenapi libary https://review.openstack.org/379279 | 13:08 |
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| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: Thoughts on the above ^ would be very welcome. | 13:08 |
| prithiv | Hi. Can someone review this BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/host-passthrough-cpu-mode | 13:08 |
| prithiv | Cheers | 13:08 |
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| bauzas | alaski: I looked at how deleting the RequestSpec record when deleting the instance | 13:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: conf: Remove deprecated ``use_glance_v1`` https://review.openstack.org/384991 | 13:12 |
| bauzas | alaski: when I looked at your own series for the BuildRequest, you're only deleting the BuildReq by the API, while some calls are actually deleting the instance record by the compute manager | 13:12 |
| bauzas | alaski: do you think it would be okay to do the same and accept that there could be a possible issue when the RequestSpec could be deleted but not the Instance record if the RPC cast is trampled ? | 13:13 |
| alaski | bauzas: you mean for a delete request? | 13:14 |
| bauzas | alaski: yup | 13:14 |
| bauzas | alaski: ie. we're not deleting yet the Reqspec records, and I'd like to delete it when the instance is deleted too | 13:14 |
| alaski | I think that's fine. Once a delete is requested I wouldn't expect the instance to be usable again, even if a cast is lost and the instance isn't actually deleted | 13:15 |
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| bauzas | alaski: well, you know that becomes an error | 13:15 |
| alaski | so if the req_spec is deleted, the instance isn't, and then a customer requests a resize and that fails I would expect that | 13:15 |
| bauzas | alaski: for the moment, we're accepting to not have a Spec object | 13:16 |
| bauzas | for a resize | 13:16 |
| bauzas | alaski: that just means we're creating a false one | 13:16 |
| alaski | okay. Still, doing anything with an instance after a delete request is undefined behavior | 13:16 |
| bauzas | mmm ok | 13:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: anyway, we're testing the service before calling the RPC cast | 13:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: if the service is down, then we locally delete the instance record | 13:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: the main problem is when the rabbit queue is huge | 13:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: then, the service says "I'm fine" and then we cast the compute node | 13:18 |
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| bauzas | alaski: in that case, AFAIR, the instance vm state becomes ERROR | 13:18 |
| bauzas | because we had a timeout | 13:18 |
| bauzas | so the operator needs to reset the state | 13:19 |
| alaski | you can still delete an errored instance right? | 13:19 |
| bauzas | but yeah, the instance is kinda trampled | 13:19 |
| bauzas | alaski: yup, if you reset-state the instance | 13:19 |
| alaski | I mean without reset-state | 13:19 |
| bauzas | not sure about that then | 13:19 |
| alaski | I thought we let delete be a big hammer that always worked | 13:20 |
| alaski | yeah, delete always goes through | 13:20 |
| bauzas | okay, that's fine then | 13:20 |
| bauzas | if the delete doesn't work correctly, the instance is in a bad shape but the user can still request again the deletion | 13:21 |
| alaski | yeah | 13:21 |
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| bauzas | mmm, okay, so I would just delete the Spec record after that | 13:21 |
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| bauzas | I mean, it's a cast so after/before the cast, sure | 13:22 |
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| bauzas | that sounds acceptable | 13:22 |
| alaski | yeah, I think that's fine | 13:22 |
| bauzas | either way, like I said, resize and other move operations will still work tho | 13:22 |
| bauzas | they won't just be able to know the original request | 13:23 |
| bauzas | which I think is fine too | 13:23 |
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| alaski | yeah | 13:23 |
| alaski | if someone tries to delete an instance and then later move it they'll need to accept what they get | 13:23 |
| alaski | that would require admin intervention with a reset-state which should indicate that maybe they shouldn't do it | 13:24 |
| bauzas | correct | 13:24 |
| bauzas | provided we error that instance | 13:24 |
| bauzas | which is something I need to be sure | 13:25 |
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| bauzas | alaski: tbc, my main worries go with the cells v1 operators | 13:25 |
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| bauzas | alaski: because now that we're persisting the Spec records, that means that there is O(n) records in the API DB | 13:26 |
| bauzas | which is not scalable :) | 13:26 |
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| bauzas | n being the number of having existed instances... :) | 13:26 |
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| alaski | I have that concern as well. At some point I think we'll want to look at moving those records into the cell db, but from my experience with v1 where the api db has a full copy of the instance record I know that there's a lot of scale necessary to put strain on that db | 13:34 |
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| alaski | i.e. it had yet to be an issue that I ever had to deal with | 13:35 |
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| mriedem | which records? | 13:38 |
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| alaski | mriedem: the request specs | 13:39 |
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| mriedem | don't we need the request spec in the api db for conductor and the scheduler? | 13:41 |
| mriedem | well i guess until you pick a cell, once we know a cell it could be in the cell db and then we can just use the db context switch to read it out | 13:42 |
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| mriedem | once we get to multi-cell, how do we pick a cell during scheduling anyway? just based on host mappings and aggregates per usual? | 13:42 |
| alaski | right | 13:42 |
| alaski | mriedem: yep | 13:43 |
| mriedem | ok | 13:43 |
| alaski | scheduler returns a host, we consult the host mapping to get a cell | 13:43 |
| bauzas | alaski: sorry, missed your point | 13:45 |
| bauzas | alaski: but yeah, I think we still need to have a large API DB | 13:45 |
| bauzas | fortunately, all the records we put in there have indexes | 13:45 |
| bauzas | alaski: which means it's not really a performance issue | 13:46 |
| bauzas | including the hostmapping, the instancemapping and the requestspec tables I mean | 13:46 |
| bauzas | hostmapping isn't really scaling like the 2 others | 13:46 |
| alaski | bauzas: my point was just that I think it will be a long time before having reqspecs in the api db is a performance concern unless the db is fairly low powered. and if it becomes a concern we can migrate those records to the cells | 13:46 |
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| bauzas | alaski: agreed | 13:47 |
| bauzas | alaski: I don't think it would become a problem - if we delete the unnecessary records :D | 13:47 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap kmartin claudiub tobasco andreas_s abhishekk mrhillsman raj_singh live migration subteam meeting in a minute on openstack-meeting-3 | 13:59 |
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| cdent | edleafe: thanks for fixing the blueprint stuff on the aggregates | 14:03 |
| edleafe | cdent: no worries | 14:04 |
| stevemar | mriedem: any idea whats going on in the nova tests here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384501/ | 14:05 |
| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: Thank you for the review, sir. Much appreciated | 14:05 |
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| sfinucan | bauzas: You wouldn't happen to be idle, would you? :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349959/ | 14:06 |
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| bauzas | sfinucan: heh :) | 14:07 |
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| bauzas | easy peasy | 14:07 |
| * sfinucan apologises in advance, but couldn't think of a way to mitigate the size of the damn thing :/ :) | 14:08 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: conf: set min and max values for cells https://review.openstack.org/385021 | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: object: add new field cpu_emulator_threads_policy https://review.openstack.org/385022 | 14:15 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: virt: add numa constraint for emulator threads policy https://review.openstack.org/385023 | 14:15 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: virt: update overhead to take into account vCPUs https://review.openstack.org/385024 | 14:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: doc: Comment on latin1 vs utf8 charsets https://review.openstack.org/384548 | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | stevemar: sorry was in the wrong channel | 14:21 |
| mriedem | so http://logs.openstack.org/01/384501/2/check/gate-cross-nova-python27-db-ubuntu-xenial/0354a54/console.html#_2016-10-11_08_44_56_166395 | 14:21 |
| mriedem | i haven't seen that i guess | 14:21 |
| mriedem | looks like oslo.db crapped out hard | 14:21 |
| mriedem | rpodolyaka: have you seen that before? ^ | 14:21 |
| * rpodolyaka looks | 14:21 | |
| rpodolyaka | ah, it | 14:21 |
| rpodolyaka | *it's the timeout issue we saw recently | 14:22 |
| rpodolyaka | but that's not nova tests, right | 14:22 |
| rpodolyaka | ? | 14:22 |
| mriedem | it is | 14:22 |
| mriedem | nova unit tests on a requirements change | 14:22 |
| rpodolyaka | hmm | 14:22 |
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| rpodolyaka | mriedem: ah, the tests run for more than 640 seconds - that's the timeout after we bumped it in Ic5b2b75e1d8bc73e49b8e7944ae802a64041cb7c | 14:24 |
| rpodolyaka | nova.tests.unit.db.test_migrations.TestNovaMigrationsMySQL.test_models_sync 652.656 | 14:24 |
| mriedem | yikes | 14:24 |
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| rpodolyaka | as I mentioned on the ML thread I often see this locally when running tests with high concurrency value (like 12) against a mysql db on hdd | 14:27 |
| rpodolyaka | looks like even the timeout value as big as 640s may not be enough :( | 14:27 |
| rpodolyaka | I'll take a closer look at this and and try to see what we can do to speed up the tests | 14:28 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: I brought this up a while back: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379656/9//COMMIT_MSG | 14:29 |
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| rpodolyaka | the "easy" hack would be to tweak mysql/postgresql on CI nodes to do fsync`s rarely | 14:29 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: and I thought you said you didn't want to namespace them, right? | 14:29 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: I'd prefer not to, but danpb brought up a good point about what happens in the future if a custom resource class name conflicts with a newly-added standard resource class. So, I'm re-evaluating that position :) | 14:33 |
| jaypipes | rpodolyaka: libeatmydata.so to the rescue. | 14:33 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: that's exactly what I said when I brought it up :) | 14:33 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: sometimes it takes a while to sink into my thick skull :( | 14:33 |
| rpodolyaka | jaypipes: I've never heard about it. will take a look, thanks! | 14:33 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: so part of that discussion was about if we namespace, do we enforce that at the object layer or the API layer, | 14:35 |
| danpb | jaypipes: would it be totally insane to suggest using reverse domain naming. eg org.openstack.nova.$STANDARD_RESOURCE_NAME | 14:35 |
| danpb | they we just say any custom resources can't be under org.openstack.nova | 14:35 |
| dansmith | danpb: we've already got things on the wire that don't do that | 14:35 |
| danpb | it makes the strings in this DB field a bit longer, but I'm unclear if that's a problem or not | 14:35 |
| dansmith | danpb: so we have to account for those and transition | 14:36 |
| dansmith | personally I hate that sort of naming in practice | 14:36 |
| danpb | dansmith: existing things that aren't covered by our standard resources ? | 14:36 |
| jaypipes | danpb: yeah, since we already send things over the wire, I think the best solution is probably just to prefix with X_ | 14:36 |
| dansmith | danpb: I mean our standard ones aren't | 14:36 |
| danpb | jaypipes: who is going to be defining custom resources ? is this for out of tree extensions ? | 14:37 |
| dansmith | danpb: he's opening this up via the api later on | 14:37 |
| danpb | so cloud admin can define whatever they want then ? | 14:37 |
| dansmith | right | 14:37 |
| danpb | in that case I think we definitely need some namespace separation | 14:38 |
| dansmith | in bristol I asked why we wouldn't just let this be generic, and jaypipes and sdague shot me down | 14:38 |
| dansmith | then decided it would be useful | 14:38 |
| jaypipes | danpb: yeah, canonical example here is the Ironic node_class. | 14:38 |
| dansmith | then asked about namespacing, shot down, | 14:38 |
| dansmith | now namespacing is cool | 14:38 |
| dansmith | I can't win :) | 14:38 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: Dan, you win. | 14:38 |
| * danpb must have been asleep during that discussion | 14:38 | |
| danpb | (or not realized the implications of the discussion) | 14:39 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: danpb: so regardless, danpb's -1 on this patch implies he thinks that we should enforce the namespacing at the object and persistence layer, | 14:39 |
| dansmith | and I think that will probably limit us in the future | 14:39 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: it would need to be at the API layer. | 14:40 |
| danpb | well i don't neccessarily think we must do it in the object model - if its sufficient to enforce it in the api layer, that'd be fine too | 14:40 |
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| dansmith | yeah, that's my point | 14:40 |
| danpb | (i don't know all the entry paths that could lead to it) | 14:40 |
| dansmith | danpb: so I think you can lift your -1 on this because it's just the object course-change at this point | 14:41 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: assume you want to keep the <=1000 special watermark thing? | 14:41 |
| danpb | ok, will do | 14:42 |
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| mriedem | pkoniszewski: we actually haven't tested https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379638/ yet, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382456/ doesn't test it because it's only running smoke tests, | 14:42 |
| dansmith | danpb: I think you can go register your namespacing thing here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312696/ | 14:42 |
| mriedem | pkoniszewski: i'll push a DNM change on top of that one which runs the live migration tests in nova like the job you created | 14:43 |
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| danpb | dansmith: ok | 14:43 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: the -1 from jenkins on that patch seems unrelated | 14:44 |
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| * dansmith jaypipes: http://logs.openstack.org/56/379656/9/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration-ubuntu-xenial/e929e6b/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-10-11_12_40_09_646 | 14:45 | |
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| pkoniszewski | mriedem: oh, true, by default it only runs smoke tests, thanks! | 14:46 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: yeah, totally unrelated AFAICT> | 14:49 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: okay I shall +W and recheck then | 14:49 |
| jaypipes | cheers | 14:50 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: did you see alex_xu's utf-8 question? | 14:51 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: no, which one? | 14:52 |
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| jaypipes | oh, yeah... | 14:52 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: yeah, I suppose we can change that to latin1 | 14:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova-specs: libvirt: iothreads for disk devices https://review.openstack.org/230968 | 14:57 |
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| markus_z | I'd need advice how to do a refactoring of "create_consoles" in the libvirt driver without killing reviewers: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/867bd23f2ccb5de3e98987a643a07e2c43f4a844/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L4269-L4282 | 15:17 |
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| markus_z | I'm working on "virtlogd" and have this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323765/24 | 15:17 |
| markus_z | ^ is a patch with as less refactoring as possible. Made it ugly though... | 15:17 |
| mriedem | i've seen uglier | 15:19 |
| markus_z | I though I ask here before I foster my refactoring changes for a cycle. | 15:19 |
| mriedem | the only refactor is the change underneath for the py26 thing isn't it? | 15:19 |
| markus_z | right now, yes. But the functional change made things hard to read/understand | 15:20 |
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| * mriedem falls into markus_z's review trap | 15:21 | |
| markus_z | I had a change series once who did this step by step: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323764/ but there was too much discussion for trivial things for my taste. | 15:21 |
| markus_z | hey, that's not a trap :/ | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: conf: Remove deprecated ``use_glance_v1`` https://review.openstack.org/384991 | 15:22 |
| mriedem | markus_z: is there any functional change to _get_console_output_file here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323765/24/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py@2628 | 15:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Add UniqueConstraint to instance_actions table https://review.openstack.org/365181 | 15:23 |
| markus_z | mriedem: yes, if there is log-rotation, the function will read all necessary files too | 15:24 |
| markus_z | line 2645 is the magic | 15:25 |
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| mriedem | but before virtlogd, you wouldn't have log rotation | 15:25 |
| mriedem | ? | 15:25 |
| markus_z | true | 15:25 |
| markus_z | before virtlogd, a single file which grows until the host explodes | 15:26 |
| mriedem | sure, it just seems like you could break out _get_console_output_file to handle log rotation in a separate change, | 15:27 |
| mriedem | if you wanted to make this smaller | 15:27 |
| mriedem | until virtlogd support, it's a no-op | 15:27 |
| mriedem | because console.log.0 or whatever won't exist | 15:27 |
| mriedem | right? | 15:27 |
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| markus_z | I see, yeah, good point. | 15:27 |
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| markus_z | The method "_create_serial_console_devices()" should go away. I could simply inline that in another change? | 15:29 |
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| mriedem | that's a pretty minimal change so i'm not sure how much it matters | 15:30 |
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| markus_z | It would move all conditionals one needs to know to one place | 15:31 |
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| mriedem | the behavior change of _create_serial_console_devices doesn't really make sense until this change that uses it though right? | 15:31 |
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| markus_z | right | 15:32 |
| mriedem | i mean you could split that out | 15:32 |
| mriedem | so you'd basically have something like: | 15:33 |
| mriedem | serial_devices = self._create_serial_console_devices(...) | 15:33 |
| mriedem | guest.devices.extend(char_devices) | 15:33 |
| mriedem | woops | 15:33 |
| mriedem | guest.devices.extend(serial_devices) | 15:33 |
| mriedem | i guess i'd be ok with that small refactor | 15:34 |
| mriedem | slipping in underneath too | 15:34 |
| JayF | I'm getting conflicting reports: If I'm just going to be implementing an API in Ironic's virt driver to enable `nova rescue` on Ironic instances, do I need a BP? | 15:34 |
| mriedem | you definitely need a bp | 15:34 |
| mriedem | the question is if you need a spec | 15:34 |
| mriedem | feature parity in the virt driver doesn't always require a spec | 15:35 |
| mriedem | i guess it depends on how complicated the change is going to be | 15:35 |
| mriedem | JayF: i'd probably ask danpb about needing a spec or not for implementing rescue in the ironic driver, as i think when hyper-v added it it was different from how libvirt did it | 15:35 |
| mriedem | so you might want some discussion on the plan before coding it up | 15:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Francesco Santoro proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] os-vif: add os-vif plugin for vhostuser_fp https://review.openstack.org/385061 | 15:36 |
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| JayF | We designed it to be a simple implementation for Nova's api, nothing really crazy going on, I'll ensure there's a BP. | 15:36 |
| markus_z | mriedem: returning the serial_devices list could be confusing as I throw away the file-device and replace it by the virtlogd device. | 15:39 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: but that happens in the virtlogd change at the top of the series right? | 15:39 |
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| mriedem | you were just looking for refactoring suggestions | 15:39 |
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| markus_z | right, the replacement happens at the top. | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Libvirt: Use the virtlogd deamon https://review.openstack.org/382526 | 15:43 |
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| markus_z | thanks for the quickfix | 15:45 |
| mriedem | np | 15:45 |
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| danpb | mriedem: JayF personally I'dbe fine without needing a spec, *provided* it follows the design from the libvirt rescue spec | 15:46 |
| danpb | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/virt-rescue-stable-disk-devices.html | 15:46 |
| markus_z | thanks for the refactoring suggestions too. I'll just go to work and then we can discuss in a review (#no-trap) | 15:46 |
| mriedem | markus_z: are you and danpb on the same page wrt his comments in there? | 15:47 |
| danpb | mriedem: JayF if there's some reasons why that design can't work for ironic,then i think we'd need a spec to debate the alternatives | 15:47 |
| JayF | danpb: clearly we can't implement it that way, as we don't have a hypervisor | 15:48 |
| markus_z | mriedem: Yes, they make sense. I have to double-check about the first tcp device having "logd" though. | 15:48 |
| JayF | danpb: we have an approved ironic spec here for it: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/specs/not-implemented/implement-rescue-mode.html | 15:49 |
| markus_z | ah, no, that's a xml sub-element, everything's cool | 15:50 |
| lyarwood | JayF / danpb ; skimming over the spec quickly, isn't that essentially the same assuming that the original disks are still available when booted from the rescue ramdisk? | 15:52 |
| cburgess | Does live migrate with the block flag work with the nova LVM backend? Anyone know? | 15:52 |
| mriedem | cburgess: i don't think so | 15:52 |
| mriedem | cburgess: i know resize doesn't work for lvm | 15:53 |
| mriedem | cfriesen_: was tinkering with that | 15:53 |
| cburgess | Yeah I know resize doesn't work | 15:53 |
| cburgess | Just wondering about snapshot and live migrate. Looks like snapshot works | 15:53 |
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| danpb | JayF: IIUC, that spec is saying that the only thing which changes during rescue is the initrd that is used - the storage configuration is identical to that used during a normal boot | 15:54 |
| cburgess | mriedem Next question do we know if anyone uses this? | 15:54 |
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| danpb | JayF: ie the original root disk is /dev/sda in both normal & rescue modes | 15:54 |
| mriedem | cburgess: i'd ask cfriesen_ | 15:54 |
| cburgess | mriedem Thanks | 15:55 |
| danpb | JayF: if so, then ironic does comply with the approach outlined for libvirt | 15:55 |
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| mriedem | cburgess: we have an experimental queue ci job for lvm | 15:55 |
| cburgess | cfriesen_ ping | 15:55 |
| mriedem | cburgess: it's not multinode though | 15:55 |
| danpb | so, could do without needing a spec for nova | 15:55 |
| cburgess | mriedem Does it work-ish? | 15:55 |
| mriedem | cburgess: not sure what the current state is, would need to find recent results | 15:56 |
| mriedem | cburgess: this is what we skip https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/devstack/tempest-dsvm-lvm-rc | 15:56 |
| cburgess | mriedem Just wanted an off the top of your head so thats good enoguh. | 15:56 |
| JayF | danpb: we boot a ramdisk, and leave the user to mount the drives -- where the drives exist is 100% dependant on hardware | 15:56 |
| danpb | ok, that sounds fine | 15:57 |
| cburgess | mriedem So we skip all the resize/migrate. But with multi-node we don't test live migrate. OK cool thanks. | 15:57 |
| mriedem | w/o multinode | 15:57 |
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| cburgess | mriedem Sorry yes... too early to be awake and trying to read/understand LVM code on a webex. /sigh | 15:58 |
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| mriedem | cburgess: a run from 10/4 http://logs.openstack.org/85/382085/1/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-lvm/0a19d35/ | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: Rework docstrings https://review.openstack.org/367468 | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: Split '_add_cpu_pinning_constraint' https://review.openstack.org/367469 | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: Flatten functions https://review.openstack.org/367470 | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: Split into modules https://review.openstack.org/367467 | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: tests: Split 'test_hardware' into modules https://review.openstack.org/368967 | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Standardize '_get_XXX_constraints' functions https://review.openstack.org/385071 | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Rename '_numa_get_constraints_XXX' functions https://review.openstack.org/385072 | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Simplify numa asymmetry check https://review.openstack.org/385073 | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Nest _numa_get_flavor_XXX_map_list https://review.openstack.org/385074 | 15:59 |
| cburgess | mriedem Cute...it failed. | 16:00 |
| mriedem | yeah... http://logs.openstack.org/85/382085/1/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-lvm/0a19d35/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz | 16:00 |
| mriedem | se | 16:00 |
| mriedem | sec | 16:00 |
| cburgess | mriedem Yeah that doesn't seem to be related to LVM. That looks like like another issue or possible an issue with the ansible automation | 16:01 |
| sfinucan | danpb: Hope that's a little more parseable ^ Silly me | 16:01 |
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| mriedem | cburgess: was a dnm patch | 16:02 |
| cburgess | mriedem dnm? Or did you mean damn? | 16:02 |
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| mriedem | getting a new run on change 380433 | 16:03 |
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| mriedem | i'll send you a smoke signal with the results | 16:03 |
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| rnoriega | oomichi, mriedem, sorry for yesterday! It was already out of work! | 16:05 |
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| rnoriega | oomichi, mriedem, thanks for looking into the os-pci API! | 16:06 |
| mriedem | np | 16:06 |
| rnoriega | mriedem, what do you think it'd be the way to go?? Would it need a new spec to get that api into v2.1? | 16:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add Hierarchy info https://review.openstack.org/383726 | 16:08 |
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| * sfinucan just realized he's killing it in openstack-stats, and should probably start *writing* code again | 16:09 | |
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| cfriesen_ | cburgess: mriedem: live migration is busted currently with lvm and block-live-migration. Internally we made it work for cold migration/resize | 16:10 |
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| schegi | hi got a problem with attaching more that 6 disks using virtio-scsi. in the VM i can only see 6 atatched disks, additional disks i cannot see. | 16:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add child_hard_limits column https://review.openstack.org/383727 | 16:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota: Set default values to subproject https://review.openstack.org/383728 | 16:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add nested quota support https://review.openstack.org/383729 | 16:10 |
| cburgess | cfriesen_ cool | 16:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add Hierarchy info https://review.openstack.org/383726 | 16:11 |
| cfriesen_ | cburgess: and it works for live migration with boot-from-cinder and no ephemeral/swap disks | 16:11 |
| mriedem | cfriesen_: why does your resize patch work internally but fails the resize tests with lvm in the ci job upstream? | 16:12 |
| cburgess | cfriesen_ Sure I know cinder supports well | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add child_hard_limits column https://review.openstack.org/383727 | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota: Set default values to subproject https://review.openstack.org/383728 | 16:13 |
| cfriesen_ | mriedem: not sure, and no time to dig into it due to corporate priorities. Note that we're on mitaka, so I could have missed something porting to master. | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add nested quota support https://review.openstack.org/383729 | 16:13 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen_: ah | 16:13 |
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| cfriesen_ | mriedem: cburgess: also, lvm sucks for quick-turnaround instances due to the time required to zero out volumes when done with them, and nova doesn't account for them properly | 16:14 |
| cfriesen_ | so we had to implement thin-provisioned lvm to make deletion times reasonable. | 16:14 |
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| cburgess | cfriesen_ Oh thats cute. Is that nova, cinder, or both? | 16:15 |
| mriedem | that's one thing we set in the lvm ci job, no zeroing out on delete | 16:15 |
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| cfriesen_ | nova. cinder already supports thin provisioning | 16:15 |
| cfriesen_ | in real live it kills you because in many cases it's required for security, but it takes forever | 16:16 |
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| cburgess | cfriesen_ and I assume the thin provisioning for nova is only in your tree? | 16:16 |
| cfriesen_ | cburgess: yep. tried pushing it a year or so back but there was no interest in something between thick provisioned lvm and qcow2 | 16:17 |
| danpb | cfriesen_: hmm, that makes little sense | 16:17 |
| danpb | there's totally value in thin provisioned lvm, over qcow2 | 16:18 |
| danpb | it'll perform better for a start | 16:18 |
| cfriesen_ | if people are interested I could see about pushing it again... | 16:18 |
| cfriesen_ | it's not all that complicated a patch | 16:18 |
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| danpb | the only hard question is wtf.com when you use up all space on the lvm vg | 16:19 |
| danpb | as that's going cause guests to start getting io errors on writes | 16:19 |
| cburgess | cfriesen_ I'm not saying I'm even going to use nova + LVM yet, or maybe ever, but I guarantee slow deletes are a blocker to me ever considering it | 16:19 |
| cfriesen_ | we don't use overprovisioning...so purely using thin provisioned to get around the need to zero on delete | 16:19 |
| danpb | but then that's not much different from enospc with qcow2 | 16:19 |
| danpb | cfriesen_: hmmm, so you're basically spreading the zero'ing cost over time on every write that triggers allocation of a new sector | 16:20 |
| danpb | so faster deletes, but slower i/o performance for guests initially | 16:21 |
| cfriesen_ | danpb: yep. first write to a sector takes a hit, but we avoid the massive one-time hit at deletion | 16:21 |
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| cfriesen_ | and since many disks don't get filled up, we don't have to zero out unused blocks | 16:21 |
| cfriesen_ | and resizes are fast since we just snapshot the volume | 16:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Changed the name of the standard resource classes https://review.openstack.org/382669 | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: change resource class to a StringField https://review.openstack.org/379656 | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: add cache for resource classes https://review.openstack.org/379655 | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: add new resource_classes table https://review.openstack.org/379654 | 16:31 |
| diana_clarke | mriedem: When you get a chance, can you please remove the procedural -2 from this? Thanks! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371508/ | 16:31 |
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| mriedem | diana_clarke: i'm not sure that's something i want to do on stable branches at all | 16:33 |
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| diana_clarke | mriedem: yeah, no pressure to +2 | 16:34 |
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| mriedem | right, i'm saying though that my -2 is going to stick on the stable/newton change | 16:34 |
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| diana_clarke | mriedem: okie dokie, I understand | 16:38 |
| cburgess | cfriesen_ You can turn off the zeroing of the nova lvm volume right? The issue is a possible security issues around the data still being available to a later volume right? | 16:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Remove paramiko dependency https://review.openstack.org/367395 | 16:46 |
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| cfriesen_ | cburgess: yes, that's right. if you don't care about security then it's no problem. | 16:48 |
| cburgess | cfriesen_ Not saying thats a good thing just asking for the details. In things like a large CI pool that may not be an issue since the only thing on the disk is previous versions of the already available code. | 16:49 |
| JayF | wom 2- | 16:49 |
| JayF | whoops, apologies | 16:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Send events to all relevant hosts if migrating https://review.openstack.org/371048 | 16:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Refresh info_cache before getting network_info https://review.openstack.org/385086 | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Refresh info_cache before getting network_info https://review.openstack.org/385086 | 16:57 |
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| dansmith | lyarwood: I propose we remove that stupid local-or-remote method after your patch | 17:01 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: tried to answer your questions fully on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377138. Lemme know if you have further questions and need to chat. | 17:03 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: ok, will get to that soon. I thought that this was going to be a fight^H^H^H^Hdiscussion topic in Barcelona | 17:06 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: again, I was gently nudged to submit code and not specs for things like nested resource providers so that folks could get an idea of what the code would look like instead of discussing endlessly on spec reviews... | 17:08 |
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| dansmith | artom: so I know we discussed a little last week about the need for the extra refresh | 17:10 |
| artom | dansmith, go on :) | 17:10 |
| dansmith | artom: I think you're asserting that evacuate has always been broken, but our manual testing of it was succeeding purely because we would start an instance and immediately evacuate it, having a stale cache to help us not hang, right? | 17:10 |
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| artom | dansmith, that's my hypothesis, yes | 17:11 |
| artom | Or because as you said, everyone used vif_plugging_is_fatal=False | 17:11 |
| dansmith | artom: the thing I have a hard time understanding/believing is how we're ending up with a stale info cache a minute after the instance has booted, because I think we should have updated the cache as part of the boot | 17:11 |
| artom | dansmith, it's stale in the sense that it thinks the VIF is active | 17:12 |
| dansmith | artom: so I know that the bottom patch is right, because we've seen cases where we don't know where the instance is, and so duplicating the event makes sense to me, but I'm not sure I can be okay with the top patch without more proof | 17:12 |
| artom | Which means don't wait for it, and don't expect events for it | 17:12 |
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| dansmith | artom: right I know | 17:12 |
| dansmith | artom: oh wait | 17:12 |
| artom | The vif is actually *not* active | 17:13 |
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| dansmith | artom: how is it not active? | 17:13 |
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| artom | dansmith, not sure to be honest. Presumably it's taken down at the beginning of the migration? | 17:13 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: well, if nudging is what you like: how about filling in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-optional-db-spec as promised? | 17:13 |
| artom | Or when the compute goes down? | 17:14 |
| dansmith | artom: that's the thing I want to understand | 17:14 |
| dansmith | artom: no, the compute going down can't do it | 17:14 |
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| artom | dansmith, btw, there's another patch that sort of does the same thing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382853/ | 17:14 |
| artom | But he just gets network_info from the network API directly. | 17:15 |
| artom | So it seems like there's indeed a problem in that area of the code... | 17:15 |
| dansmith | artom: we've been through this many times, where someone says "if I refresh network_info right ... HERE ... my bug goes away" but it just keeps pushing it around | 17:15 |
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| dansmith | artom: so I want to avoid that again, because it's bad to have nova just hitting neutron to refresh this info all the time when we don't really understand when and why we need it | 17:16 |
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| artom | dansmith, refreshing the cache isn't the same as fetching from Neutron I think... | 17:16 |
| artom | The former reads from the database... | 17:17 |
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| dansmith | artom: it depends on which we're talking about.. one means updating our local instance object, which means we have a stale copy from the database, but most of our intervals are very short, so I want to understand where that race is | 17:17 |
| dansmith | artom: which is what you're doing right? | 17:17 |
| artom | dansmith, yep | 17:17 |
| dansmith | artom: so what that means is that the vif state has changed in the info cache between the time you made the evacuate call and it starts doing the evacuate on the new compute node | 17:18 |
| dansmith | artom: but since the original compute was dead, I don't see how that's possible | 17:18 |
| dansmith | hence my concern :) | 17:18 |
| artom | It hasn't changed in the info cache, that's the problem :) | 17:18 |
| artom | It's still active in the cache, but not in "real life" | 17:18 |
| dansmith | if it hasn't changed in the info_cache then we wouldn't need to refresh it :) | 17:19 |
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| artom | Wait, by info_cache you mean the Instance object's field, or the database column? | 17:19 |
| artom | Because I mean the former :) | 17:19 |
| dansmith | artom: your refresh updates the former from the latter, yes? | 17:20 |
| artom | Yes | 17:20 |
| dansmith | artom: so either the former has been updated by the evac parts, but not saved to the database, in which case you're *reverting* that just to make the code do the right thing, | 17:20 |
| cfriesen_ | artom: dansmith: for what it's worth, we've found an issue with vif plugging over live migration. nova doesn't change binding:host_id until after the migration has completed, but neutron only sends vif-plugging events ofr port events from agents on the same host as that attribute. | 17:20 |
| dansmith | artom: OR, it's been changed in the database by something else and we need to know about it | 17:21 |
| dansmith | cfriesen_: yes we know, that's a different thing | 17:21 |
| dansmith | cfriesen_: and his first patch fixes that | 17:21 |
| cfriesen_ | dansmith: ah? sweet | 17:21 |
| artom | dansmith, not 100% but I don't recall any code in the evacuation that changes the port state *before* waiting for events | 17:22 |
| artom | So my first instinct is that it's updated by something else | 17:22 |
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| dansmith | artom: okay, so then we should have a copy exactly matching the database, in which case it's something else changing it, but I don't know what that thing is :) | 17:22 |
| artom | I still have the two node devstack setup saved, if I can get it running I'll play around somemore | 17:22 |
| artom | I recall Neutron sending network-changed events, perhaps those have something to do with it | 17:23 |
| artom | But I didn't look at them in too much detail | 17:23 |
| dansmith | artom: if it is and that's doing it, then that's potentially a thing, but we might need to think about that more | 17:23 |
| dansmith | artom: if that's the case and refreshing is picking those up, then that makes sense | 17:23 |
| dansmith | artom: but if something earlier in evac is changing the info_cache, we revert it so our code does the right thing, then we need to do something else | 17:24 |
| dansmith | artom: which is why I'm being cautious here.. that and because we've merged other "refresh here, fixed" things and then learned later we did not fix anything | 17:24 |
| artom | dansmith, well, to be pedantic, "refresh here" actually *breaks* things in our case ;) | 17:25 |
| artom | And we fix them by sending external events to all evarything | 17:25 |
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| dansmith | artom: so network-changed is also processed by the owning compute-manager, so I don't think that's the external entity here | 17:25 |
| dansmith | artom: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L6675-L6682 | 17:25 |
| dansmith | unless we | 17:26 |
| dansmith | had already changed instance.host, but in that case we'd not need your first patch in the first place | 17:26 |
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| artom | That just calls the network_api... https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L6677 | 17:27 |
| dansmith | artom: which updates the database because of some hidden ninja db magic, which I hate | 17:27 |
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| artom | dansmith, exactly | 17:29 |
| artom | So if that updates the database but not the object's info_cache field... | 17:29 |
| dansmith | artom: but that runs on instance.host :) | 17:29 |
| dansmith | artom: which can't be happening here :) | 17:29 |
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| artom | dansmith, aha, indeed... | 17:30 |
| mriedem | cburgess: http://logs.openstack.org/33/380433/2/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-lvm/6222caf/ | 17:30 |
| cburgess | mriedem Oh cool that actually worked | 17:30 |
| cburgess | mriedem Thanks | 17:31 |
| artom | dansmith, what would be "lowest-level" place I can start logging to understand what's going on? | 17:31 |
| artom | instance.save() or something? | 17:31 |
| artom | My plan is to catch it there, and work my way up | 17:31 |
| dansmith | artom: we call save on info_cache from instance save I think right? | 17:31 |
| dansmith | artom: maybe throw a traceback log into that save and then try to reconcile everywhere that it's happening? you should only need to look in api and conductor logs to catch all the places | 17:32 |
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| dansmith | artom: and yes, I think that's a good strategy | 17:32 |
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| artom | dansmith, hrmm, can't tell from quickly looking at the code if we call info_cache.save from instance, but then I can just log in the former | 17:33 |
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| artom | With a stack trace that hopefully won't be full of oslo.messaging :) | 17:33 |
| dansmith | artom: lemme look. instance save will be a lot noisy-er | 17:33 |
| dansmith | artom: the stack trace will include oslo.msg on the conductor side, yes | 17:34 |
| dansmith | artom: you could wrap the object method to get the compute output though | 17:34 |
| artom | dansmith, not sure I understand what you have in mind with that last line | 17:34 |
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| dansmith | artom: this is the dispatcher for _save_info_cache() https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L688-L693 | 17:35 |
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| artom | dansmith, aha, thanks! | 17:36 |
| dansmith | artom: what I mean is decorate InstanceInfoCache.save with some wrapper that will emit a traceback any time it's called, which will work on the compute and conductor side.. compute side will give you better info about where it's called from, i.e. not hidden behind o.msg | 17:36 |
| artom | dansmith, gotcha, thanks! | 17:37 |
| dansmith | artom: also, in case it's not clear.. I applaud your effort so far getting us to the current realization and appreciate you digging into the root cause so we can be sure this is right | 17:37 |
| dansmith | I don't want you thinking I'm just poo'ing on your fix :) | 17:37 |
| artom | dansmith, I fell all warm and fuzzy inside now :) | 17:38 |
| artom | Also, with that new emoji, I think poo'ing on fixes is actually compliment now? http://emojipedia.org/pile-of-poo/ | 17:38 |
| artom | (Damn, that Facebook one tho... even their poops are doing crack) | 17:39 |
| dansmith | heh, yeah I haven't understood why those piles of poo are so happy | 17:40 |
| artom | Free at last? | 17:40 |
| dansmith | ewww | 17:41 |
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| alaski | ayoung: you had a question about context and nova policy yesterday? | 17:41 |
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| dansmith | artom: at least the samsung one has its mouth closed.... | 17:42 |
| artom | dansmith, it doesn't have a mouth at all. That's some terrible stuff that was done to it in captivity... | 17:43 |
| dansmith | artom: well, maybe.. I would expect that if it's at all warm out, that it's hard to tell the difference between no-mouth and mouth-closed-but-kinda-melting-together | 17:43 |
| jlk | surprised the samsung one isn't charred | 17:43 |
| dansmith | heh | 17:43 |
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| artom | jlk, thanks for bringing the level up | 17:44 |
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| artom | It was all poop jokes until you came in with some excellent current events satire ;) | 17:45 |
| jlk | Satire as a Service. I'm SaaSy | 17:45 |
| * artom will need to REST from so much laughter. | 17:46 | |
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| ayoung | alaski, I think I'm good on Nova. | 17:59 |
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| ayoung | alaski, it lead to this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384148/ | 17:59 |
| ayoung | alaski, the question was why Neutron did not have a similar concept to admin-api. | 18:00 |
| alaski | ayoung: gotcha. I'll take a look at the review | 18:00 |
| ayoung | alaski, thanks. | 18:01 |
| oomichi | mriedem: I am currious we need to fix legacy v2(not v2.1) api code of proxies APIs on stable branches like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384699/ ? | 18:04 |
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| oomichi | mriedem: both are removed and deprecated on master | 18:04 |
| oomichi | "both" are legacy v2 and proxies | 18:05 |
| mriedem | oomichi: i did https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383474/1/nova/api/openstack/compute/legacy_v2/contrib/volumes.py | 18:05 |
| oomichi | mriedem: oh, that is a nice sample, thanks | 18:05 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add spec to use Cinder's new attachment APIs https://review.openstack.org/373203 | 18:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Simona Iuliana Toader proposed openstack/nova-specs: Hyper-V PCI Passthrough spec https://review.openstack.org/384867 | 18:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julian proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.power_off notifications https://review.openstack.org/330761 | 19:07 |
| artom | dansmith, actually, explain that to me if you have the time. Why does a wrapper print the "correct" stack trace, but just a LOG.debug inside the save function prints useless stuff from oslo messaging? | 19:07 |
| artom | s/wrapper/decorator/ | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated options from compute https://review.openstack.org/385129 | 19:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated options from compute https://review.openstack.org/385129 | 19:27 |
| dansmith | artom: because the remotable decorator "remotes" the call to the other side over rpc on compute nodes | 19:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Change host for osapi and metadata services in db. https://review.openstack.org/384724 | 20:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Change host for osapi and metadata services in db. https://review.openstack.org/384724 | 20:07 |
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| artom | dansmith, heh, of course now that I've added all that info_cache.save logging, I was able to evacuate just fine, even with the cache refresh that I've proposed | 20:19 |
| toabctl | sdague, hey. was the personality extension removed in Newton? | 20:20 |
| sdague | toabctl: no | 20:20 |
| toabctl | sdague, is there anything to configure to use it? | 20:20 |
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| sdague | at least, not that I remember. We changed the way some of that code was executed, but it should still just work | 20:21 |
| sdague | toabctl: it should be loaded out of the box iirc | 20:21 |
| toabctl | hm. I'm running tempest test tempest.api.compute.servers.test_server_personality.ServerPersonalityTestJSON.test_can_create_server_with_max_number_personality_files on mitaka and it's failing. | 20:22 |
| toabctl | but I don't get why. the files are not created in the cirros image but ssh key is there and works fine | 20:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Remove few TODO's from cells.py https://review.openstack.org/385140 | 20:28 |
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| sdague | toabctl: oh, I think you need to change the file injection config parameter to something other than the default | 20:33 |
| toabctl | sdague, yeah. I'm now on that point in the code. thx! :) | 20:34 |
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| sdague | toabctl: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/26fd2eabb0f41c7a4c4e63b039ef74f1e16e005e/nova/conf/libvirt.py#L191 | 20:35 |
| toabctl | sdague, thx | 20:36 |
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| mriedem | wiggity whack | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated options from compute https://review.openstack.org/385129 | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | tjones-: just a reminder that vmware nsx ci doesn't need to run on docs changes to nova | 21:20 |
| mriedem | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n1367 | 21:21 |
| tjones- | argh - i though we filtered that | 21:21 |
| tjones- | i'll ping my guy thanks for letting me know | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | yikes more TLS issues 331810 | 21:27 |
| mriedem | oops http://logs.openstack.org/10/331810/5/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/49cb6d7/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-10-11_20_51_11_229 | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: EventReporterStub https://review.openstack.org/378679 | 21:32 |
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| mriedem | JayF: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/ironic-rescue-mode is approved | 21:35 |
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| JayF | mriedem: tyvm! I appreciate it twice as much when people do things for me without asking <3 | 21:36 |
| mriedem | wznoinsk: fyi seeing some weird intel nfv ci failures in mitaka http://intel-openstack-ci-logs.ovh/97/384697/2/check/tempest-dsvm-full-nfv/35797d3/console.html | 21:37 |
| mriedem | no space left on device | 21:37 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: we wanted to get a stable/newton release out this week for that pci osapi_compute upgrade thing right? | 21:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Deprecate compute options https://review.openstack.org/385165 | 21:40 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: totes | 21:44 |
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| mriedem | did we need that fix in mitaka? | 21:44 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: we could for sure, but newton is the important(est) one | 21:45 |
| mriedem | ok, there are 2 stable/newton changes that i've +2ed, you want to +W those and then i'll cut the release when those are in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton | 21:46 |
| dansmith | mriedem: is this the other one? I only saw one unapproved one other than the api one | 21:47 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381937/1 | 21:47 |
| mriedem | yesh | 21:47 |
| dansmith | mriedem: doneski | 21:47 |
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| dansmith | I have to run out in a bit but I can put up that upgrade for mitaka one later | 21:48 |
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| mriedem | word | 21:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Add debug to tox environment https://review.openstack.org/385177 | 22:06 |
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| stewie925 | hello I have a question on unshelving and shelved_offload_time | 22:09 |
| stewie925 | I am working on the nova notification task for the instance.unshelve and updated the functional test case | 22:10 |
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| edleafe | awayeve | 22:10 |
| artom | dansmith, hrmm, so I don't think it's the cache | 22:11 |
| artom | For one, I wasn't able to always get evacuations to fail with the cache refresh | 22:12 |
| artom | For two, the info_cache.save logging didn't turn up anything | 22:12 |
| artom | I added some code to print the new and old value of network_info, and they were always the same | 22:13 |
| artom | On the other hand, re-fetching network_info from the network API seems to do it | 22:13 |
| artom | I logged the value of network_info from the network API and from the info_cache, and the port is down in the former and up in the latter | 22:13 |
| artom | And like a minute later a periodic task runs and updates the info_cache | 22:14 |
| wznoinsk | mriedem: ack, someone will have a look in the morning CET, thanks | 22:14 |
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| mriedem | stewie925: shoot | 22:16 |
| stewie925 | so the test instance is currently in shelve mode - then I set the shelved_offload_time = 0 in the unshelve logic before doing the unshelve api call | 22:16 |
| stewie925 | when I ran the functional test - I am getting event type = power_on instead of unshelve | 22:16 |
| mriedem | shelved_offload_time == 0 means when you shelve the instance, it's immediately offloaded | 22:17 |
| mriedem | meaning the guest is destroyed on the hypervisor | 22:17 |
| stewie925 | ohh - then I should change it to -1 to keep it, I suppose? | 22:18 |
| mriedem | yeah | 22:19 |
| mriedem | see unshelve_instance in nova.conductor.manager | 22:19 |
| mriedem | if the instance is just shelved, then it's powered on | 22:19 |
| jroll | "we agreed to get this in without a specific nova blueprint. -- mriedem 20191011" you have three years to get rescue done, JayF | 22:19 |
| stewie925 | mriedem: thank you let me look up that code | 22:19 |
| mriedem | if the instance is shelved_offloaded, then conductor casts to the compute to spawn the instance | 22:19 |
| JayF | jroll: lol | 22:20 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: i changed the shelved_offloaded_time to -1, and ran the functional test locally - still getting a mismatch in expected vs. actual notification (Difference: u'instance.unshelve.start' != u'instance.power_on.start') | 22:37 |
| stewie925 | I posted the code snippet and the functional test results in http://paste.openstack.org/show/585404/ | 22:37 |
| stewie925 | the code is exactly the same as in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382565/4/nova/tests/functional/notification_sample_tests/test_instance.py | 22:39 |
| stewie925 | except for line 258 where I changed shelved_offload_time from 0 to -1 | 22:39 |
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| mriedem | sdague: you want to come back around on this spec for flavor CRUD operation notifications? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321336/ there is an open concern about propagating the REST API extension prefix crap into the notification | 22:42 |
| mriedem | i can see the side of being consistent though and then fixing both later with a microversion | 22:43 |
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| mriedem | actually i'm -1 on that one now | 22:45 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: no more network monitors for compute nodes right? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297011/1 | 22:55 |
| mriedem | for placement decisions | 22:55 |
| mriedem | man, there are a ton of specs about exposing host metrics via the REST API and notifications | 22:56 |
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| mriedem | nova should probably get out of the business of creating servers and just do monitoring full time | 22:57 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, -2 on said specs | 23:13 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/385195 | 23:14 |
| dansmith | mitaka backport | 23:14 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: correct. | 23:14 |
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| stewie925 | mriedem: thank you! I made my changes based on your input and my functional test now passed | 23:20 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: feel free to -2 the spec :) | 23:29 |
| mriedem | stewie925: great | 23:29 |
| mriedem | wtf are compute node metric updates sent out in notifications? | 23:30 |
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| mriedem | oh duh i guess right here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/d79d6f665d44c1b0f8dff4d73f9913963e3efd0b/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L497 | 23:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Add InvalidInput handling for attach-volume https://review.openstack.org/385200 | 23:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: docs: update the Public Contractual API link https://review.openstack.org/385202 | 23:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova: Add quota related tables to the api database. https://review.openstack.org/331810 | 23:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: doc: note the future of out of tree support https://review.openstack.org/385203 | 23:48 |
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| mriedem | browne: the vmware ci is going nuts | 23:50 |
| mriedem | -1ing everything | 23:50 |
| mriedem | i've dropped it from https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/511,members | 23:50 |
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| browne | ok, i'll get someone on it | 23:55 |
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| mriedem | thanks | 23:55 |
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