Friday, 2016-11-04

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openstackgerritlinbing proposed openstack/nova: Delete checking a bool opt of None condition  https://review.openstack.org/39070500:07
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openstackgerritJin Li proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.soft_delete notifications  https://review.openstack.org/38397000:48
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openstackgerritLisaLi proposed openstack/nova: Attach/detach encryptors during swap_volume  https://review.openstack.org/25280900:52
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mriedemmikal: you love stable branches, and you love baremetal, want to get this in before i do a stable/newton release? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375715/01:01
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Change database poison warning to an exception  https://review.openstack.org/34908201:19
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flwangalex_xu: ping01:43
flwangre the policy json name01:43
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openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: EventReporterStub  https://review.openstack.org/37867901:59
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openstackgerritKevin Zhao proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Delete the lase_device of find_disk_dev_for_disk_bus  https://review.openstack.org/32940302:12
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openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: EventReporterStub  https://review.openstack.org/37867902:18
openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Change database poison warning to an exception  https://review.openstack.org/34908202:23
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Abort cold migration  https://review.openstack.org/39356002:33
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Use check_string_length from oslo_utils  https://review.openstack.org/28639003:25
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Use min parameter to restrict live-migration config options  https://review.openstack.org/32331303:35
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_security_group  https://review.openstack.org/30713503:54
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_instance_info_cache  https://review.openstack.org/30715503:54
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_compute_node  https://review.openstack.org/30762503:55
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_pci_device  https://review.openstack.org/30761503:55
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Delete the lase_device of find_disk_dev_for_disk_bus  https://review.openstack.org/32940303:58
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Abort cold migration  https://review.openstack.org/39356004:01
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openstackgerritKevin Zhao proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Delete the lase_device of find_disk_dev_for_disk_bus  https://review.openstack.org/32940305:01
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alex_xuflwang: pong05:38
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goutham_can anybody help me with usage of micro-versions while using python-novaclient ??06:57
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Consistent query parameters validation  https://review.openstack.org/38851807:05
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Enable cold migration with target host  https://review.openstack.org/35710507:14
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openstackgerritAlex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.rebuild notification  https://review.openstack.org/38492207:56
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openstackgerritAnh Tran proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox stubs in api/openstack/compute/test_server_reset_state.py  https://review.openstack.org/32082608:13
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Send out notification about server group changes when delete instances  https://review.openstack.org/39364908:56
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: in case you could quickly look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393378/09:39
openstackgerritzhangyanxian proposed openstack/nova: Fix typo in image_meta.py  https://review.openstack.org/39366409:40
openstackgerritzhangyanxian proposed openstack/nova: Fix typo in image_meta.py  https://review.openstack.org/39366409:41
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johnthetubaguybauwser: will take a peak09:46
bauwserkewl09:46
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openstackgerritEsha Seth proposed openstack/nova: Add a no-op wait method to NetworkInfo  https://review.openstack.org/39366909:52
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: Split '_add_cpu_pinning_constraint'  https://review.openstack.org/36746910:13
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: Flatten functions  https://review.openstack.org/36747010:13
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Standardize '_get_XXX_constraints' functions  https://review.openstack.org/38507110:13
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Rename '_numa_get_constraints_XXX' functions  https://review.openstack.org/38507210:13
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: De-duplicate _numa_get_flavor_XXX_map_list  https://review.openstack.org/38507410:13
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Remove extraneous whitespace  https://review.openstack.org/39369410:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Resolve TODOs in 'database'  https://review.openstack.org/39369510:41
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diana_clarkecdent,  jaypipes: Happy Friday! The last of my database poison patches have merged. It's just the news ones from the resource provider now.10:45
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cdent\o/10:46
diana_clarkecdent, jaypipes: Are either of you working on those? Normally, I would have submitted a patch for them, but they differ from the rest.10:46
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cdentdiana_clarke: I thought jay had said he was going to but I've not seen anything. If nothing has happened by Monday I'll do it then. I'm on the way out the door shortly to go walkies for the weekend.10:48
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openstackgerritEsha Seth proposed openstack/nova: Add a no-op wait method to NetworkInfo  https://review.openstack.org/39366910:48
diana_clarkecdent: Awesome, thanks! Have a great weekend!10:48
cdentthank you10:48
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sahidjohnthetubaguy: hello, any thought about the spec emulator threads ? :)10:52
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sahidit's basically something really small, we want to isolate these threads on a dedicated pCPU10:53
johnthetubaguysahid: yep, it makes sense I think, I just keep getting pulled away from that10:53
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sahidjohnthetubaguy: yeah I imagine, that's why i'm gently pinging you10:54
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: vif: allow for creation of multiqueue taps in vrouter  https://review.openstack.org/39341610:54
openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: linux_net: allow for creation of multiqueue taps  https://review.openstack.org/39218510:54
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johnthetubaguysahid: yeah, I do appreciate it, honest!10:55
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sahid:)10:55
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johnthetubaguysahid: quick question, just want to check this line: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284094/7/specs/ocata/approved/libvirt-emulator-threads-policy.rst@9910:56
johnthetubaguysahid: what is "guest NUMA node ID 0"?10:57
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sahidwhen we start an instance with for example 2 NUMA nodes10:57
sahidI have refered the first one as "NUMA node ID 0"10:57
sahidso the second one will be NUMA node ID 110:58
sahidetc...10:58
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johnthetubaguyright, so its just picking the NUMA node we take the pCPU from for the emulator threads?10:58
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sahidjohnthetubaguy: i would say we take the pCPU which refer to the guest NUMA node 0 to pin emulator threads11:00
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johnthetubaguysahid: cool, makes sense11:03
sahidfor instance if we request for 4 vCPUs on 2 NUMA nodes: when Nova are going to reserve pCPUs, so on the host NUMA node which refers guest NUMA node 0 we will reserve the number of vCPUs/2 + 111:04
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sahidthat + 1 will be used to pin emulator threads, so that +1 will be on the host NUMA node which refers the guest NUMA node 011:06
sahidjohnthetubaguy: cool :)11:06
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Use valid UUIDs in test_admin_password  https://review.openstack.org/39371111:07
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Remove deprecated 'compute_stats_class' opt  https://review.openstack.org/38512911:23
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Remove deprecated 'compute_stats_class' opt  https://review.openstack.org/38512911:23
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sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: What's your thoughts on this change? Should the latter options just be deprecated altogether? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347085/1111:27
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pkoniszewskidanpb: is it really ok to change logic that is never executed and is completely broken? this change has no effect, we have no idea whether it fixes anything actually because we can't even test it12:20
pkoniszewskidanpb: i'm talking about this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388970/12:20
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danpbpkoniszewski: if you want to refactor it do it in a separate patch - it doesn't invalidate anything propsoed in the patch already posted12:26
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markus_zdirk: Not sure if you're the right person. Can you +W this again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392244/213:14
bhagyashrisHi all,  Need some guidelines regarding  How to enable the placement api ?13:15
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: vif: allow for creation of multiqueue taps in vrouter  https://review.openstack.org/39341613:26
openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: linux_net: allow for creation of multiqueue taps  https://review.openstack.org/39218513:26
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leakypipesbauwser: mornin. hey, I saw a pastebin from you last night but didn't see a followup question about the SQL in that paste.13:32
bauwserleakypipes: no worries, I finally found the solution :)13:32
bauwserleakypipes: the patch is up for reviews13:33
bauwserleakypipes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386242/ will be respinned because of your change being merged13:33
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leakypipesbauwser: ok dokey. lemme know when you push and I'll review :)13:34
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bauwserleakypipes: FYI, I was blocked because I needed to check how to only provide RPs having all the requested resources, but I remembered then HAVING count() :)13:35
bauwsersomething I wrote 10 years ago13:35
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leakypipesbauwser: right. the alternative, of course, is to do a self-join to another copy of the allocs subquery.13:38
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bauwserleakypipes: well, the problem is that the number of resource requests can be more than 213:39
leakypipesbauwser: on smallish datasets, the HAVING COUNT(*) == <num resource classes requested> will be just fine. On very large datasets, the self-join approach will turn out to be faster.13:40
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bauwserleakypipes: which means I'd need to join each of the allocations table by N resource requests, right?13:40
leakypipesbauwser: yup.13:40
bauwserleakypipes: that would create a large in-memory temp table then, nope ?13:40
leakypipesbauwser: nope :) it would be a nested loop join across a small subset of index records.13:41
leakypipesbauwser: no table records would be read at all.13:41
leakypipesbauwser: only index reads for the self joins.13:41
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bauwserleakypipes: are you okay with me leaving the HAVING COUNT(*) approach or do you prefer using the self-join approach ?13:42
leakypipesbauwser: the query plan produced would only introduce table record reads for resource providers that had resource classes in the join index for all requested resources.13:43
leakypipesbauwser: absolutely. the HAVING COUNT(*) method is perfectly fine.13:43
leakypipesbauwser: and it's easier to consume.13:43
bauwserokay, but thanks for the explanation13:43
leakypipesbauwser: so thus easier to read and understand.13:43
bauwsergotcha I see your point about the query plan13:43
bauwserI was once a MySQL DBA in a very early life13:44
leakypipesbauwser: like I mention above, you need to get to some fairly large table sizes before you see a substantial impact in the two strategies.13:44
bauwserbut that's something so 90s13:44
leakypipesbauwser: so I'm totes cool with the having count(*) approach.13:44
bauwserokay13:44
mriedemalex_xu: oomichi: can you translate this jsonschema for me https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/13.0.0/tempest/lib/api_schema/response/compute/v2_1/servers.py#L95 - that says the image value can be a string or just None right?13:44
mriedemlike image: "" or image: None (null)?13:44
* leakypipes should find time to benchmark the approaches and show some real numbers...13:45
mriedemb/c nova returns "" https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/14.0.1/nova/api/openstack/compute/views/servers.py#L24313:45
bauwserleakypipes: if you already looked at that patch, you'll see that I'm mixing both ORM and direct SQL queries13:45
leakypipesbauwser: that's fine.13:45
bauwserleakypipes: I made that for clarity purpose, and when looking at the query, it looked similar13:45
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bauwsergiven the discussion we had yesterday13:45
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bauwserI did a print str(q.dialect(mysql)) for that13:46
leakypipesbauwser: I'm not going to -1 something that uses ORM querying. :) I would only -1 something that *changes* some code that was already written in non-ORM to use ORM just "because" :)13:46
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bauwserokay, that makes sense13:46
bauwsersmallish nit for something not useful13:46
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openstackgerritHussain Chachuliya proposed openstack/nova: Replace uuid4() with uuidsentinel  https://review.openstack.org/37766713:56
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lbeliveauleakypipes: when you have a chance, please have a look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337236/, basically the whitelist is parsed everytime SRIOV port is created or updated14:06
mriedemlbeliveau: i'm interested in that one too, just needed to dig into it14:08
lbeliveaumriedem: thanks14:09
danpbiirc, there was a move to make nova.conf settingd able to be reloaded on the fly14:09
danpbthis kind of change seems contrary to that direction14:09
leakypipesbauwser: your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389759/ would be appreciated.14:11
mriedemdanpb: i think you have to explicitly mark the options as mutable14:11
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mriedemif lxsli were around i'd ask him14:11
bauwserleakypipes: ack , I'm first reviewing superdan's changes for cellsv2 and then this one14:11
mriedemdims: who can we ask about mutable config options?14:11
mriedemdims: knowing lxsli isn't here14:11
leakypipesbauwser: cool. it's an AZ patch that addresses performance issues we've seen at AT&T and other places.14:12
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leakypipesbauwser: (it's not my patch, btw))14:12
bauwserleakypipes: about the AZ cache ? oh gosh14:12
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danpbmriedem: right, but i'm saying with current code, we can potentially mark it as mutable right now and have it just work14:12
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Abort cold migration  https://review.openstack.org/39356014:12
dimsmriedem : i'd recommend talking to dhellmann14:12
bauwserleakypipes: I'd love to see that one, even if I remember something related in an old change14:12
danpbmriedem: if we did that change to cache whitelist parsing, then we'd haave to revert that change to make it mutable14:13
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mriedemhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.config/mutable.html#making-options-mutable-safe14:13
mriedemit looks like you can provide a hook to refresh whatever cache you need if the option changes14:14
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sahidleakypipes, mriedem any chance you have a look at that spec to isolate emulator threads ?14:16
sahidas we discussed we johnthetubaguy this morning it's bassically reserving a pCPU to pin the threads14:17
mriedemsahid: that topic is definitely not in my wheelhouse14:17
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sahidmriedem: who do you think can help me on this?14:17
mriedemsounds like johnthetubaguy?14:17
leakypipessahid: will do shortly. got about 30% of tyhe way through it.14:18
sahidmriedem: i think i need two cores, right :)14:18
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johnthetubaguyyeah, I am basically +2, just thinking through some of it14:18
mriedemsahid: didn't danpb review it?14:18
sahidleakypipes: thanks a lot jay14:18
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sahidmriedem: we he started to write the spec so i beleive he can't really +2 it, no?14:18
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sahids/we/well14:18
mriedemi see that :)14:19
sahid:)14:19
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mriedemsorry i assumed it was your spec14:19
sahidjohnthetubaguy: glad to heard that :)14:20
leakypipeslbeliveau: done14:20
lbeliveauleakypipes: thanks !14:20
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openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Don't parse PCI whitelist everytime  neutron ports are created  https://review.openstack.org/33723614:22
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Don't parse PCI whitelist every time neutron ports are created  https://review.openstack.org/33723614:23
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lbeliveaumriedem: leakypipes: just fixed the commit message ^14:24
mriedemalready +W14:24
mriedemoh again?!14:24
mriedem-2 for that14:24
leakypipeslol14:25
lbeliveauthanks :)14:26
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: remove user_id from keypair list response and fix 2.10  https://review.openstack.org/39284514:33
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openstackgerritBrent Tang proposed openstack/nova: Instance obj_clone leaves metadata as changed  https://review.openstack.org/39380514:39
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: cleanup network volume driver auth config  https://review.openstack.org/38938914:43
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: prefer cinder rbd auth values over nova.conf  https://review.openstack.org/38939914:43
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alex_xumriedem: it means the value of image can be string, null, and a dict {'id': [a string], 'links': [link ref stuff]}14:45
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mriedemalex_xu: yup that's what i thought14:45
alex_xumriedem: cool14:45
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diana_clarkemriedem: Thanks for reviewing the last database poison warning patches last night.14:57
mriedem\o/14:57
diana_clarkemriedem: Now we're just waiting on leakypipes & cdent to fix the resource provider ones & then we can flip it from a warning to an exception.14:57
mriedemdo they have a fix?14:57
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diana_clarkemriedem: No, not yet. They differ from the others, or I would have done them, but I think they need to decide how they want those fixed.14:58
mriedemjdurgin: cburgess: question in here for rbd-minded people https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389399/ - does it make sense to configure an rbd volume connection using nova.conf values for auth if the volume connection on the cinder side doesn't have auth enabled? that seems very weird to me, but it's what we've always done.14:59
mriedemjdurgin: cburgess: i assume b/c people always assumed you'd have a single ceph cluster managing both nova and cinder14:59
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jdillaman1mriedem: do you know anyone in the wild that has cephx enabled on a nova ceph cluster and cephx disabled on a cinder ceph cluster?15:07
mriedemjdillaman1: nope15:07
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jdillaman1mriedem: seems like cinder should be the authoritative source for how to connect to cinder15:08
mriedemjdillaman1: that's what i was wondering in ^15:08
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mriedemthe nova.conf auth values for rbd should just be used for the rbd imagebackend in nova15:09
mriedemand nova should get the auth from cinder for the volume connection, if it's not there we don't set those values in the disk config15:09
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jdillaman1mriedem: of course, the alternative is that if you want to attach cinder volumes to nova and nova has its own keys, just make sure the nova keys are in both clusters15:11
jdillaman1mriedem: ... since i'm sure you'd hit similar issues with glance15:11
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mriedemleakypipes: how can/should we test this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390062/10/nova/api/openstack/placement/handlers/inventory.py@35015:22
mriedemleakypipes: given it's a race that shouldn't happen, the placement/gabbi tests wouldn't probably work15:22
mriedemand i don't think we have unit tests for the placement REST API15:23
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leakypipesmriedem: yeah, that was my issue with that :)15:25
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leakypipesmriedem: I could throw a unit test together.'15:25
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mriedemseems we should have one...even if it's just using mocks15:26
openstackgerritBĂ©la Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Reduce (notification) test duplication  https://review.openstack.org/39142815:26
mriedemi'd be ok with you posting it on top if you want15:26
mriedemso we don't lose alex's +215:26
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danpb1oh my god, how on earth did we ever let this merge15:29
danpb1# cinder encryption-type-create --cipher aes-xts-plain64 --key_size 512 \   --control_location front-end LUKS nova.volume.encryptors.luks.LuksEncryptor15:29
danpb1so users of cinder API for encryption have to specify a private nova class name in the public API !?!?!?!?15:29
danpb1if nova ever renames this class, kaboom15:30
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lyarwooddanpb1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391597/ as I found out here15:31
danpb1we have to burn this to the ground15:31
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danpb1change semantics of 'provider' so that it is an enum of encryption formats  "plain",  "luks"  and if we see a legacy class name rewrite it into one of the enums15:32
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leakypipesmriedem: ok, will do a patch atop that series then. thx.15:34
lyarwooddanpb1: kk, I can take a look at that and switching to os-brick, I wasn't going to push a spec for the straight switch to os-brick but this seems more worthy of one right?15:35
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mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/30976/15:36
mriedemthat's how15:36
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mriedemi'm more surprised that doesn't predate the split out of nova-volume15:37
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openstackgerritSarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova-specs: Send service token along with user tokens  https://review.openstack.org/38771115:38
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mriedemalso https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/13.0.0/tempest/scenario/test_encrypted_cinder_volumes.py#L6915:38
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/13.0.0/tempest/scenario/test_encrypted_cinder_volumes.py#L7915:39
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cburgessmriedem reading15:42
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mriedemdanpb1: if it makes you feel any better, the REST API in cinder to create encryption types isn't documented :) http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/block-storage/v2/15:43
aunnamjohnthetubaguy, we drafted steps for zero down time upgrade process here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-zero-time-upgrade-doc. We are not sure if we can add it to nova upgrade doc since we are still testing this.15:43
danpb1mriedem: the cli is documented though :-(  http://docs.openstack.org/juno/config-reference/content/section_create-encrypted-volume-type.html15:43
mriedemit's an awesome way to drop in your encryption provider15:44
danpb1mriedem: exactly something i wish to prevent !15:44
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mriedemsounds like a good use of the cinder v3 api which has microversoins15:47
mriedemadd a microversion to accept an enum value15:47
mriedemvalidate the supported enums with jsonschema15:47
mriedemall of the work here is in cinder i think15:48
danpb1no reason we can't block arbitrary out of tree plugins in nova even without that15:48
mriedemnova just pulls the provider info from cinder metadata15:48
danpb1its been our standard policy that we dont' allow plugins for this kind of thing15:48
mriedemwhat does the nova code do today with something it doesn't recognize?15:48
mriedemor does it just classload it?15:48
danpb1it just blindly classloads everything15:48
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mriedemyup https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/volume/encryptors/__init__.py#L4715:49
cburgessmriedem So regarding CEPH, first I think the change is a great idea, using separate pools today means no auth so its a good change.15:49
mriedemdanpb1: so, push a change to make that a warning for ocata and we'll make it an error for pike15:49
danpb1yeah15:49
mriedemcburgess: but should we use the nova config for the cinder volume auth if cinder didn't provide auth? that's my question.15:50
cburgessmriedem With regard to your question about the conditional fall back of using auth as configured in nova, I agree it doesn't make much sense and that people *should* have the auth info configured in cinder. However the fallback is the behavior today. I'm fine changing the behavior, but we need a release note. Granted this change is release not worthy anyways.15:50
mriedemit's what we do today, so my change doesn't change that15:50
cburgessmriedem you type faster them me...15:50
cburgessmriedem I guess the question is, do you want to change the existing behavior? If so then lets change it and note it. I personally can't think of a good reason you would need this behavior other then being lazy and "its how its always been done".15:51
mriedemcburgess: good point on the release note, this does change the behavior15:51
mriedemcburgess: how about you -1 my change with notes so i don't forget15:52
mriedem:)15:52
raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: I addressed your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387711/. Please take a look when you get a chance.15:52
mriedemget you review stat cookie15:52
cburgessmriedem I was just about to say that...15:52
cburgesslol I gave up on my stats long long ago.15:52
leakypipessahid: done.15:53
dimsmriedem : leakypipes : have you heard from anyone at platform9? (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-aws)15:54
cburgessmriedem One question, how many releases back has cinder supported passing us the auth info? AKA will we have an upgrade issue here if we don't upgrade in lock step?15:54
mriedemdims: someone was in here the other day15:55
mriedembauwser: was talking to them15:55
mriedem"talking"15:55
mriedemcburgess: forever15:55
cburgessmriedem RAD15:55
dimscool. i had an email conversation with madhura and requested them to show up here15:55
mriedemcburgess: at least liberty which is really all we care about upstream https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/stable/liberty/cinder/volume/drivers/rbd.py#L81615:56
sahidleakypipes: thanks !15:56
mriedemdims: for what purpose?15:56
mriedemdims: we're not going to take in an AWS driver to nova15:56
mriedemotherwise they can do whatever they want15:56
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cburgessmriedem Yeah well Netwen is fine if we ship this in Ocata. Just wanted to be sure this wasn't one of those we need to wait 1 release to change the behavior things.15:56
dimsmriedem : right, they need to know that and i wanted them to hear from you all15:57
mriedemcburgess: don't think so15:57
mriedemdims: ok, i think sach-m was the person, something like that15:57
dimssounds good mriedem.15:57
cburgessmriedem review updated15:57
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mriedemwhoever they were, i think they probably understood the position from myself and bauwser15:58
mriedemcburgess: thanks15:58
mdboothdanpb1: Should we generate a connection down event if the initial connect attempt fails?15:58
cburgesssuperdan Looks like you pinged me yesterday and I missed it15:58
dimsmriedem : perfect. thanks.15:58
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mriedemoh i didn't realize they had a blueprint...15:58
mriedemwell then15:58
mriedemlet me get my red marker15:58
superdancburgess: I got my jollies from someone else because you weren't around15:58
dimshaha15:58
cburgessmriedem dims Is this a driver thats going to call AWS APIs to create VMs?15:59
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cburgesssuperdan :(15:59
cburgesssuperdan The curse of meetings15:59
dimscburgess : yep15:59
superdancburgess: just kidding, if I pinged you I don't remember what it was for15:59
dimscburgess : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~smanpathak?searchtext=-aws15:59
cburgessdims I..... cant't even... nope...15:59
danpb1mdbooth: hmm, not sure really15:59
cburgessIts an interesting idea...15:59
cburgessBut... yeah16:00
mriedemcburgess: in bcn you were very much the devil's advocate on giving the people what they wanted :)16:00
cburgesssuperdan Oh my bad I missed the context, you and I were talking and you laughed at something I said.. my bad.16:00
mdboothdanpb1: We did before. Then I changed something and now we don't.16:00
superdanheh16:00
mdboothdanpb1: I guess we probably should, because I think the default state of a service is to be available, right?16:01
mdboothCan anybody else confirm?16:01
cburgessmriedem I think you miss-understood my stance. I was playing devil's advocate to an extent but i think nova drivers should focus on control hypervisor/virtualization layers running on individual machines. I don't think linking to another cloud is a good idea. And I have mixed opinions about the whole controlling a cluster of hypervisor's drivers.16:02
mriedemthey could work this into jacket16:02
dimsmriedem : found the irc logs with sach-m. thanks16:03
mriedemwikiware16:03
mriedemdims: np16:03
cburgessmriedem I guess what I'm saying is... there are limits to how far it should go. But honestly I don't have a problem with nova. There is a larger issue around drivers and vendors in the community that impacts cinder and neutron more. I can't say I find fault with nova's stance.16:03
mriedemomni is really just jacket16:03
mriedemdanpb1: ping me or add me to the patch for logging a warning on the encryptor classloading thing when it's up16:05
* dims strikes one thing of his follow up list :)16:05
danpb1mriedem: will do16:05
leakypipesquick, dims now has bandwidth. somebody add a todo item to his queue.16:06
dims:)16:06
leakypipes:P16:06
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lyarwooddanpb1: mind if I take a swing at that if you're not already working on it?16:06
openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: Validate instance name before creating  https://review.openstack.org/39230516:06
mriedemdims: if you're bored, add something to oslo.messaging to let nova know if notifications are setup for a given host/queue16:08
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mriedemso we don't have to build notification payloads that won't be sent16:08
superdanthinking out loud here.. that cells scheduling series ends up with everything apparently happy, although networking isn't connected for the instance16:09
superdanneutron seems happy, nova seems happy, just no packets16:09
superdaneven the instance is happy with its address and all16:09
superdanpuzzle.16:09
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cburgesssuperdan "no packets" but DHCP works?16:09
superdancburgess: yeah16:09
openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: Allow finding instance with invalid regex name  https://review.openstack.org/39230516:10
cburgesssuperdan *blink*16:10
superdancburgess: ikr?16:10
cburgessAsking the obvious, you've check the iptables and ebtables rules?16:10
dimsmriedem : that would be helpful for sure.16:10
superdancburgess: well, haven't really gotten that far, just repro'ing something in the gate after that scheduler change, which really shouldn't impact networking16:11
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superdanunless we weren't setting up the port or something, but .. we are16:11
cburgessOh.. gate... single node or multi-node?16:12
superdansingle16:12
cburgessOK so the DHCP packets stay on the same bridge then I guess. Where are you attempting to talk to it from that doesn't work?16:12
dimsmriedem : threw that into a bug for now https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/163928716:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1639287 in oslo.messaging "oslo.messaging support for nova to query if notifications are setup for a given host/queue" [Undecided,New]16:13
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superdancburgess: the host16:13
superdancburgess: I'll start debugging now, I'm just kindof amazed that this unrelated change broke it, but .. it did16:13
cburgesssuperdan yeah that sounds very very odd16:14
superdanaye16:14
mriedemdims: thanks16:14
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mriedembauwser: alex_xu: i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386843/ is ready to go16:17
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: Remove check_attach  https://review.openstack.org/33535816:24
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danpb1mriedem: lyarwood  https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/163929316:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1639293 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cinder encrypted vol connection info include full nova internal class name " [Undecided,New]16:29
danpb1i outlined a plan of attack to fixing the mess int e bug16:30
danpb1lyarwood: i've not writen code, so if you want to write some, go ahead16:30
danpb1lyarwood: we'd want todo the validation in the place where we call the cinder client api16:30
danpb1lyarwood: which looks like nova/volume/cinder.py  get_volume_encryption_metadata() method16:31
lyarwooddanpb1: cool thanks, yeah happy to take this on, thanks!16:36
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superdanlascii: ohai17:05
lasciisuperdan: now that I'm in this timezone I see why you get online so early. Half the conversations are over by the time I get in here17:07
superdanlascii: heh, in PDT?17:07
superdaneven 10AM PDT is late :)17:07
lasciifair :) I have been online sine 830 or so, just busy17:08
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Call host connection callbacks asynchronously  https://review.openstack.org/39386917:08
mdboothdanpb1: https://review.openstack.org/39386917:08
superdanlascii: did you see the scrollback of my current conundrum ?17:08
lasciisuperdan: I have not, my bouncer only sends like 20 lines of scrollback when I connect. I need to figure out how to change that someday...17:09
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superdanlascii: that top patch to do the instance create in conductor completely breaks networking to the guests, but everything *appears* right17:10
superdanports up, guest gets dhcp, etc17:10
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lasciisuperdan: and all that really changed was the db create happens later?17:11
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superdanooh, I just figured out a thing17:12
superdanlascii: well, I mean you know what's in that patch.. theoretically that's all17:12
superdanhowever,17:12
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superdanthe security group in neutron isn't setup17:13
superdanif I add a rule, it seems to work17:13
superdanI wonder if the api is still trying to do secgroup things before the instance is created, and failing.. or something?17:13
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johnthetubaguysuperdan: the security groups are still happening really early, I need to get the spec up for that move to conductor stuff17:17
superdanjohnthetubaguy: what do you mean by that? really early in instance boot or ?17:17
lasciisuperdan: it appears that security group setup all happens before instance creation even now. however it is currently setting that on instance at create time in nova-api, I don't see that info getting sent to conductor with buildreq17:18
lasciiso it may not be getting set on an instance during conductor creation17:18
johnthetubaguysuperdan: I was thinking it happened in the API, but I think I just got myself confused thinking about it17:18
superdanlascii: so, I don't see any secgroups other than the default one17:18
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superdanlascii: I wonder if my local testing isn't reproducing some tempest secgroup setup, and that the tempest secgroup stuff is failing to work for some other reason, hmm17:19
superdanhttp://logs.openstack.org/79/319379/26/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/e882fbb/logs/testr_results.html.gz17:20
superdantest_port_security_disable_security_group fails to do something17:21
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superdanah, yep,17:22
superdanthat fails because we create a server with a secgroup, but it only gets the default one17:22
superdanthat must be it17:22
lasciiis it possible that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374267/9/nova/objects/build_request.py is failing to retrieve the security group that should be stored there?17:22
superdanmeaning the fake instance we return doesn't have the secgroups that the buildreq says should be there?17:23
superdansounds reasonable17:23
lasciiwhat's happening is that security groups are set on the instance object, that's then stuffed into the buildreq and persisted, then it's retrieved from buildreq later to do the actual instance creation17:23
lasciiyeah17:23
johnthetubaguyso I was just looking in here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L913 seems we only pass security_groups into the create instance17:23
lasciiI'm wondering if that data is getting lost in there somehow17:24
lasciigotta run for a bit17:24
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superdanlascii: yeah, I'll dump some debug to see if it's in the buildreq or not17:24
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superdan2016-11-04 10:26:40.991 INFO nova.objects.build_request [req-42a3ed64-038b-4b1c-8fec-11635298f7f6 demo demo] Set security_groups=SecurityGroupList(objects=[]) (SecurityGroupList(objects=[]))17:26
superdanwell, heh, that's because I didn't specify one17:27
superdanstill empty though when I do, so.. I think that must be it17:28
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superdanlascii: hmm, your commit here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/1aca8b103c7c7090cfd35991da97575fe8a6ab2c17:41
superdanlascii: returns an empty list for neutron always,17:41
superdanfrom populate_security_groups(),17:41
superdanwhich is what we're setting on that buildreq always, and thus getting an empty list17:41
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superdanwhich sure enough is because we'd end up with a db failure to create the instance with those secgroups in our db17:46
superdanguh17:46
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cfriesen__any chance a second core could take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346263 ?18:00
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add prep-for-network-aware-scheduling-ocata spec  https://review.openstack.org/39388818:07
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thorstHey - if anyone has a chance can you re-review the PowerVM Blueprint.  Updated it based off unconference feedback.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381772/18:15
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Use an EncryptionProvider enum  https://review.openstack.org/39390118:37
lyarwoodmriedem: if you have anytime this afternoon is ^ anything close to what you were asking danpb for earlier?18:38
prateekleakypipes, how do you test placement API's ? I tried to a --debug on nova list and hitting that API but that gives me unauthorized.18:38
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mriedemlyarwood: might be overthinking it, but it's along the same lines18:44
mriedemlyarwood: that change isn't backward compatible though, left some comments inline18:44
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lyarwoodmriedem: thanks, missed the stupid Friday typo in there18:48
lyarwoodmriedem: re the short name values for the enums they aren't used outside of our unittests so it's not breaking anything thankfully.18:49
mriedemit'll break tempest18:50
lyarwoodah crap, thanks18:51
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Use an EncryptionProvider enum  https://review.openstack.org/39390119:02
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openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.create notification  https://review.openstack.org/38462119:19
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Use an EncryptionProvider enum  https://review.openstack.org/39390119:21
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: Allow finding instance with invalid regex name  https://review.openstack.org/39230519:42
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pawHi, I'm trying to look for the exact requirements on how graphic addresses (vnc/spice) should be configured wrt validation. ie should both sides be local? what about catch all address?19:54
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bauwsermriedem: back here, okay, will sneak peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386843/1120:06
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openstackgerritNITIN GUPTA proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added a new nova CLI command "nova delete-all" for deleting all VMs in one go, excluding those mentioned using "--exclude" option  https://review.openstack.org/39392320:19
sach-m_re: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-aws. Trying to see if we can do this in some other shape/form. The major objection seems to be the implementation of it as a driver. What if this was a thin layer behind API which forwards the calls to cloud?20:20
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mriedemsach-m_: we already had the ec2 api shim in tree20:23
mriedemit wasn't maintained20:23
mriedemthat's been much happier in the ec2api repo in github20:23
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openstackgerritNITIN GUPTA proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added a new nova CLI command "nova delete-all" for deleting all VMs in one go, excluding those mentioned using "--exclude" option  https://review.openstack.org/39392320:25
sach-m_mriedem: You mean the ec2api supported by nova-api before? As in use ec2 api to access openstack cloud?20:25
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mriedemno, sorry, i guess you're asking for something different?20:26
mriedemstill,20:26
mriedemnova api shouldn't be a proxy to AWS20:26
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karthike1991hi, when i am doing vm change flavor, my vm is getting migrated to different compute host and getting this20:28
karthike1991[Error: Cannot access storage file '/var/lib/nova/instances/<id>/disk' (as uid:108, gid:117): Permission denied].20:29
karthike1991what can be the reason?20:29
sach-m_mriedem: I'm suggesting a way to provision instances on public cloud with nova API.20:29
mriedemsach-m_: if you were going to put an aws proxy in for openstack, you could do it in something like this project https://github.com/softlayer/jumpgate20:29
mriedem^ has a driver for softlayer,20:29
mriedemso proxy openstack API requests to SL API20:29
mriedemhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Jacket is the virt driver idea, but jacket doesn't have code20:30
mriedemand i think jacket and omni are equivalent ideas?20:30
mriedemyeah https://github.com/platform9/openstack-omni/blob/master/nova/ec2/ec2driver.py#L13520:30
mriedemomni is an ec2 virt driver20:30
mriedemi believe jacket is the same idea, but w/o code20:31
mriedem:)20:31
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openstackgerritSarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: conf: added notifications group  https://review.openstack.org/39214520:34
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mriedemartom_: you don't have a spec up for exposing bdm tags in the rest api do you?20:34
mriedemb/c i'm writing one if not20:34
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artom_mriedem, go for it :)20:35
artom_mriedem, only bdm?20:35
mriedemfor now20:36
mriedemb/c we haven't sorted out what we're doing with the os-virtual-interfaces and os-interfaces APIs20:36
mriedemwe want to merged/deprecate one of those20:36
mriedembut it's complicated and i want to punt on that for ocata20:36
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artom_Err wait, which one of those is attaching interfaces? Because that's the one I'm adding tags to...20:37
artom_Aha, http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=create-interface-detail#create-interface20:38
artom_os-interface20:38
artom_os-virtual-interfaces is just listing them, surely that can just be deprecated?20:39
artom_But maybe you're right, punt on that for ocata so that we can discuss this properly and think of all the ramifications...20:39
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mriedemos-attach-interface is the one that eventually calls allocate_for_instance in neutron to create a port and attach to the server20:43
mriedemi think that's the long-term one we're going to keep20:43
sach-m_mriedem: Thanks. Some nova  functionality is still appealing though. e.g. Quotas, ssh keys, flavors, etc. Trying to see how those can be leveraged with proxy approach.20:43
mriedemos-virtual-interface is nova-net only b/c it uses the db20:43
mriedemsach-m_: you could still do those in a project like jumpgate20:43
mriedemthe problem with jumpgate is each driver has to process the nova API request separately20:44
mriedemso it's not super useful20:44
artom_mriedem, by the way, remember you asked for the vif tag creating to be moved to neutronv2/api.py?20:44
mriedemartom_: instead of compute manager?20:44
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artom_mriedem, yeah. Smart call, in order to add tags to attaching interfaces all I had to do was pass the tag from the api down to the NetworkRequest object, everything else just works automagically.20:44
mriedemartom_: i'll admit, i'm pretty amazing20:45
artom_mriedem, yeah, I seldom see such smart people be so modest.20:45
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mriedem:)20:46
cburgessmriedem and modest too20:46
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* artom_ goes to pick up daughter from daycare20:46
cburgessOh wait... artom_ already said that... /sigh20:46
cburgessDon't mind me, I'm just slow20:46
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openstackgerritSarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: conf: move console opt to console group  https://review.openstack.org/38964720:48
sach-m_mriedem: My point as well. Nova is a bit of exception, but the cinder and neutron drivers fit. If this keeps too far from main openstack constructs like simple API router, it's not that interesting.20:49
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openstackgerritNITIN GUPTA proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added a new nova CLI command "nova delete-all" for deleting all VMs in one go, excluding those mentioned using "--exclude" option  https://review.openstack.org/39392320:50
sach-m_mriedem: I would prefer using openstack like images, flavors, keys etc. with a public cloud. Higher layers like heat and murano magically work with this approach20:50
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Expose BDM tags in REST API  https://review.openstack.org/39393021:03
openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Add zero down time upgrade steps  https://review.openstack.org/39393121:03
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openstackgerritNITIN GUPTA proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added a new nova CLI command "nova delete-all" for deleting all VMs in one go, excluding those mentioned using "--exclude" option  https://review.openstack.org/39392321:19
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Add zero down time upgrade steps  https://review.openstack.org/39393121:35
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mriedempaw: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/163931221:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1639312 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova does not validate graphics console addresses" [Undecided,New]21:49
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mriedemgd launchpad timeouts22:18
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Add zero down time upgrade steps  https://review.openstack.org/39393122:29
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: fix addFloatingIp action docs  https://review.openstack.org/39395123:07
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