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openstackgerrit | linbing proposed openstack/nova: Delete checking a bool opt of None condition https://review.openstack.org/390705 | 00:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Jin Li proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.soft_delete notifications https://review.openstack.org/383970 | 00:48 |
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openstackgerrit | LisaLi proposed openstack/nova: Attach/detach encryptors during swap_volume https://review.openstack.org/252809 | 00:52 |
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mriedem | mikal: you love stable branches, and you love baremetal, want to get this in before i do a stable/newton release? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375715/ | 01:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Change database poison warning to an exception https://review.openstack.org/349082 | 01:19 |
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flwang | alex_xu: ping | 01:43 |
flwang | re the policy json name | 01:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: EventReporterStub https://review.openstack.org/378679 | 01:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Zhao proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Delete the lase_device of find_disk_dev_for_disk_bus https://review.openstack.org/329403 | 02:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: EventReporterStub https://review.openstack.org/378679 | 02:18 |
openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Change database poison warning to an exception https://review.openstack.org/349082 | 02:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Abort cold migration https://review.openstack.org/393560 | 02:33 |
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openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Use check_string_length from oslo_utils https://review.openstack.org/286390 | 03:25 |
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openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Use min parameter to restrict live-migration config options https://review.openstack.org/323313 | 03:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_security_group https://review.openstack.org/307135 | 03:54 |
openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_instance_info_cache https://review.openstack.org/307155 | 03:54 |
openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_compute_node https://review.openstack.org/307625 | 03:55 |
openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_pci_device https://review.openstack.org/307615 | 03:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Delete the lase_device of find_disk_dev_for_disk_bus https://review.openstack.org/329403 | 03:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Abort cold migration https://review.openstack.org/393560 | 04:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Zhao proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Delete the lase_device of find_disk_dev_for_disk_bus https://review.openstack.org/329403 | 05:01 |
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alex_xu | flwang: pong | 05:38 |
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goutham_ | can anybody help me with usage of micro-versions while using python-novaclient ?? | 06:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Consistent query parameters validation https://review.openstack.org/388518 | 07:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Enable cold migration with target host https://review.openstack.org/357105 | 07:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.rebuild notification https://review.openstack.org/384922 | 07:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Anh Tran proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox stubs in api/openstack/compute/test_server_reset_state.py https://review.openstack.org/320826 | 08:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Send out notification about server group changes when delete instances https://review.openstack.org/393649 | 08:56 |
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bauwser | johnthetubaguy: in case you could quickly look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393378/ | 09:39 |
openstackgerrit | zhangyanxian proposed openstack/nova: Fix typo in image_meta.py https://review.openstack.org/393664 | 09:40 |
openstackgerrit | zhangyanxian proposed openstack/nova: Fix typo in image_meta.py https://review.openstack.org/393664 | 09:41 |
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johnthetubaguy | bauwser: will take a peak | 09:46 |
bauwser | kewl | 09:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Esha Seth proposed openstack/nova: Add a no-op wait method to NetworkInfo https://review.openstack.org/393669 | 09:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: Split '_add_cpu_pinning_constraint' https://review.openstack.org/367469 | 10:13 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: Flatten functions https://review.openstack.org/367470 | 10:13 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Standardize '_get_XXX_constraints' functions https://review.openstack.org/385071 | 10:13 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Rename '_numa_get_constraints_XXX' functions https://review.openstack.org/385072 | 10:13 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: De-duplicate _numa_get_flavor_XXX_map_list https://review.openstack.org/385074 | 10:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Remove extraneous whitespace https://review.openstack.org/393694 | 10:41 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Resolve TODOs in 'database' https://review.openstack.org/393695 | 10:41 |
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diana_clarke | cdent, jaypipes: Happy Friday! The last of my database poison patches have merged. It's just the news ones from the resource provider now. | 10:45 |
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cdent | \o/ | 10:46 |
diana_clarke | cdent, jaypipes: Are either of you working on those? Normally, I would have submitted a patch for them, but they differ from the rest. | 10:46 |
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cdent | diana_clarke: I thought jay had said he was going to but I've not seen anything. If nothing has happened by Monday I'll do it then. I'm on the way out the door shortly to go walkies for the weekend. | 10:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Esha Seth proposed openstack/nova: Add a no-op wait method to NetworkInfo https://review.openstack.org/393669 | 10:48 |
diana_clarke | cdent: Awesome, thanks! Have a great weekend! | 10:48 |
cdent | thank you | 10:48 |
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sahid | johnthetubaguy: hello, any thought about the spec emulator threads ? :) | 10:52 |
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sahid | it's basically something really small, we want to isolate these threads on a dedicated pCPU | 10:53 |
johnthetubaguy | sahid: yep, it makes sense I think, I just keep getting pulled away from that | 10:53 |
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sahid | johnthetubaguy: yeah I imagine, that's why i'm gently pinging you | 10:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: vif: allow for creation of multiqueue taps in vrouter https://review.openstack.org/393416 | 10:54 |
openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: linux_net: allow for creation of multiqueue taps https://review.openstack.org/392185 | 10:54 |
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johnthetubaguy | sahid: yeah, I do appreciate it, honest! | 10:55 |
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sahid | :) | 10:55 |
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johnthetubaguy | sahid: quick question, just want to check this line: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284094/7/specs/ocata/approved/libvirt-emulator-threads-policy.rst@99 | 10:56 |
johnthetubaguy | sahid: what is "guest NUMA node ID 0"? | 10:57 |
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sahid | when we start an instance with for example 2 NUMA nodes | 10:57 |
sahid | I have refered the first one as "NUMA node ID 0" | 10:57 |
sahid | so the second one will be NUMA node ID 1 | 10:58 |
sahid | etc... | 10:58 |
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johnthetubaguy | right, so its just picking the NUMA node we take the pCPU from for the emulator threads? | 10:58 |
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sahid | johnthetubaguy: i would say we take the pCPU which refer to the guest NUMA node 0 to pin emulator threads | 11:00 |
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johnthetubaguy | sahid: cool, makes sense | 11:03 |
sahid | for instance if we request for 4 vCPUs on 2 NUMA nodes: when Nova are going to reserve pCPUs, so on the host NUMA node which refers guest NUMA node 0 we will reserve the number of vCPUs/2 + 1 | 11:04 |
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sahid | that + 1 will be used to pin emulator threads, so that +1 will be on the host NUMA node which refers the guest NUMA node 0 | 11:06 |
sahid | johnthetubaguy: cool :) | 11:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Use valid UUIDs in test_admin_password https://review.openstack.org/393711 | 11:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Remove deprecated 'compute_stats_class' opt https://review.openstack.org/385129 | 11:23 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Remove deprecated 'compute_stats_class' opt https://review.openstack.org/385129 | 11:23 |
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sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: What's your thoughts on this change? Should the latter options just be deprecated altogether? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347085/11 | 11:27 |
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pkoniszewski | danpb: is it really ok to change logic that is never executed and is completely broken? this change has no effect, we have no idea whether it fixes anything actually because we can't even test it | 12:20 |
pkoniszewski | danpb: i'm talking about this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388970/ | 12:20 |
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danpb | pkoniszewski: if you want to refactor it do it in a separate patch - it doesn't invalidate anything propsoed in the patch already posted | 12:26 |
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markus_z | dirk: Not sure if you're the right person. Can you +W this again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392244/2 | 13:14 |
bhagyashris | Hi all, Need some guidelines regarding How to enable the placement api ? | 13:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: vif: allow for creation of multiqueue taps in vrouter https://review.openstack.org/393416 | 13:26 |
openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: linux_net: allow for creation of multiqueue taps https://review.openstack.org/392185 | 13:26 |
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leakypipes | bauwser: mornin. hey, I saw a pastebin from you last night but didn't see a followup question about the SQL in that paste. | 13:32 |
bauwser | leakypipes: no worries, I finally found the solution :) | 13:32 |
bauwser | leakypipes: the patch is up for reviews | 13:33 |
bauwser | leakypipes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386242/ will be respinned because of your change being merged | 13:33 |
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leakypipes | bauwser: ok dokey. lemme know when you push and I'll review :) | 13:34 |
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bauwser | leakypipes: FYI, I was blocked because I needed to check how to only provide RPs having all the requested resources, but I remembered then HAVING count() :) | 13:35 |
bauwser | something I wrote 10 years ago | 13:35 |
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leakypipes | bauwser: right. the alternative, of course, is to do a self-join to another copy of the allocs subquery. | 13:38 |
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bauwser | leakypipes: well, the problem is that the number of resource requests can be more than 2 | 13:39 |
leakypipes | bauwser: on smallish datasets, the HAVING COUNT(*) == <num resource classes requested> will be just fine. On very large datasets, the self-join approach will turn out to be faster. | 13:40 |
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bauwser | leakypipes: which means I'd need to join each of the allocations table by N resource requests, right? | 13:40 |
leakypipes | bauwser: yup. | 13:40 |
bauwser | leakypipes: that would create a large in-memory temp table then, nope ? | 13:40 |
leakypipes | bauwser: nope :) it would be a nested loop join across a small subset of index records. | 13:41 |
leakypipes | bauwser: no table records would be read at all. | 13:41 |
leakypipes | bauwser: only index reads for the self joins. | 13:41 |
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bauwser | leakypipes: are you okay with me leaving the HAVING COUNT(*) approach or do you prefer using the self-join approach ? | 13:42 |
leakypipes | bauwser: the query plan produced would only introduce table record reads for resource providers that had resource classes in the join index for all requested resources. | 13:43 |
leakypipes | bauwser: absolutely. the HAVING COUNT(*) method is perfectly fine. | 13:43 |
leakypipes | bauwser: and it's easier to consume. | 13:43 |
bauwser | okay, but thanks for the explanation | 13:43 |
leakypipes | bauwser: so thus easier to read and understand. | 13:43 |
bauwser | gotcha I see your point about the query plan | 13:43 |
bauwser | I was once a MySQL DBA in a very early life | 13:44 |
leakypipes | bauwser: like I mention above, you need to get to some fairly large table sizes before you see a substantial impact in the two strategies. | 13:44 |
bauwser | but that's something so 90s | 13:44 |
leakypipes | bauwser: so I'm totes cool with the having count(*) approach. | 13:44 |
bauwser | okay | 13:44 |
mriedem | alex_xu: oomichi: can you translate this jsonschema for me https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/13.0.0/tempest/lib/api_schema/response/compute/v2_1/servers.py#L95 - that says the image value can be a string or just None right? | 13:44 |
mriedem | like image: "" or image: None (null)? | 13:44 |
* leakypipes should find time to benchmark the approaches and show some real numbers... | 13:45 | |
mriedem | b/c nova returns "" https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/14.0.1/nova/api/openstack/compute/views/servers.py#L243 | 13:45 |
bauwser | leakypipes: if you already looked at that patch, you'll see that I'm mixing both ORM and direct SQL queries | 13:45 |
leakypipes | bauwser: that's fine. | 13:45 |
bauwser | leakypipes: I made that for clarity purpose, and when looking at the query, it looked similar | 13:45 |
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bauwser | given the discussion we had yesterday | 13:45 |
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bauwser | I did a print str(q.dialect(mysql)) for that | 13:46 |
leakypipes | bauwser: I'm not going to -1 something that uses ORM querying. :) I would only -1 something that *changes* some code that was already written in non-ORM to use ORM just "because" :) | 13:46 |
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bauwser | okay, that makes sense | 13:46 |
bauwser | smallish nit for something not useful | 13:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Hussain Chachuliya proposed openstack/nova: Replace uuid4() with uuidsentinel https://review.openstack.org/377667 | 13:56 |
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lbeliveau | leakypipes: when you have a chance, please have a look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337236/, basically the whitelist is parsed everytime SRIOV port is created or updated | 14:06 |
mriedem | lbeliveau: i'm interested in that one too, just needed to dig into it | 14:08 |
lbeliveau | mriedem: thanks | 14:09 |
danpb | iirc, there was a move to make nova.conf settingd able to be reloaded on the fly | 14:09 |
danpb | this kind of change seems contrary to that direction | 14:09 |
leakypipes | bauwser: your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389759/ would be appreciated. | 14:11 |
mriedem | danpb: i think you have to explicitly mark the options as mutable | 14:11 |
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mriedem | if lxsli were around i'd ask him | 14:11 |
bauwser | leakypipes: ack , I'm first reviewing superdan's changes for cellsv2 and then this one | 14:11 |
mriedem | dims: who can we ask about mutable config options? | 14:11 |
mriedem | dims: knowing lxsli isn't here | 14:11 |
leakypipes | bauwser: cool. it's an AZ patch that addresses performance issues we've seen at AT&T and other places. | 14:12 |
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leakypipes | bauwser: (it's not my patch, btw)) | 14:12 |
bauwser | leakypipes: about the AZ cache ? oh gosh | 14:12 |
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danpb | mriedem: right, but i'm saying with current code, we can potentially mark it as mutable right now and have it just work | 14:12 |
openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Abort cold migration https://review.openstack.org/393560 | 14:12 |
dims | mriedem : i'd recommend talking to dhellmann | 14:12 |
bauwser | leakypipes: I'd love to see that one, even if I remember something related in an old change | 14:12 |
danpb | mriedem: if we did that change to cache whitelist parsing, then we'd haave to revert that change to make it mutable | 14:13 |
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mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.config/mutable.html#making-options-mutable-safe | 14:13 |
mriedem | it looks like you can provide a hook to refresh whatever cache you need if the option changes | 14:14 |
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sahid | leakypipes, mriedem any chance you have a look at that spec to isolate emulator threads ? | 14:16 |
sahid | as we discussed we johnthetubaguy this morning it's bassically reserving a pCPU to pin the threads | 14:17 |
mriedem | sahid: that topic is definitely not in my wheelhouse | 14:17 |
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sahid | mriedem: who do you think can help me on this? | 14:17 |
mriedem | sounds like johnthetubaguy? | 14:17 |
leakypipes | sahid: will do shortly. got about 30% of tyhe way through it. | 14:18 |
sahid | mriedem: i think i need two cores, right :) | 14:18 |
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johnthetubaguy | yeah, I am basically +2, just thinking through some of it | 14:18 |
mriedem | sahid: didn't danpb review it? | 14:18 |
sahid | leakypipes: thanks a lot jay | 14:18 |
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sahid | mriedem: we he started to write the spec so i beleive he can't really +2 it, no? | 14:18 |
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sahid | s/we/well | 14:18 |
mriedem | i see that :) | 14:19 |
sahid | :) | 14:19 |
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mriedem | sorry i assumed it was your spec | 14:19 |
sahid | johnthetubaguy: glad to heard that :) | 14:20 |
leakypipes | lbeliveau: done | 14:20 |
lbeliveau | leakypipes: thanks ! | 14:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Ludovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Don't parse PCI whitelist everytime neutron ports are created https://review.openstack.org/337236 | 14:22 |
openstackgerrit | Ludovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Don't parse PCI whitelist every time neutron ports are created https://review.openstack.org/337236 | 14:23 |
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lbeliveau | mriedem: leakypipes: just fixed the commit message ^ | 14:24 |
mriedem | already +W | 14:24 |
mriedem | oh again?! | 14:24 |
mriedem | -2 for that | 14:24 |
leakypipes | lol | 14:25 |
lbeliveau | thanks :) | 14:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: remove user_id from keypair list response and fix 2.10 https://review.openstack.org/392845 | 14:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Brent Tang proposed openstack/nova: Instance obj_clone leaves metadata as changed https://review.openstack.org/393805 | 14:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: cleanup network volume driver auth config https://review.openstack.org/389389 | 14:43 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: prefer cinder rbd auth values over nova.conf https://review.openstack.org/389399 | 14:43 |
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alex_xu | mriedem: it means the value of image can be string, null, and a dict {'id': [a string], 'links': [link ref stuff]} | 14:45 |
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mriedem | alex_xu: yup that's what i thought | 14:45 |
alex_xu | mriedem: cool | 14:45 |
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diana_clarke | mriedem: Thanks for reviewing the last database poison warning patches last night. | 14:57 |
mriedem | \o/ | 14:57 |
diana_clarke | mriedem: Now we're just waiting on leakypipes & cdent to fix the resource provider ones & then we can flip it from a warning to an exception. | 14:57 |
mriedem | do they have a fix? | 14:57 |
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diana_clarke | mriedem: No, not yet. They differ from the others, or I would have done them, but I think they need to decide how they want those fixed. | 14:58 |
mriedem | jdurgin: cburgess: question in here for rbd-minded people https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389399/ - does it make sense to configure an rbd volume connection using nova.conf values for auth if the volume connection on the cinder side doesn't have auth enabled? that seems very weird to me, but it's what we've always done. | 14:59 |
mriedem | jdurgin: cburgess: i assume b/c people always assumed you'd have a single ceph cluster managing both nova and cinder | 14:59 |
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jdillaman1 | mriedem: do you know anyone in the wild that has cephx enabled on a nova ceph cluster and cephx disabled on a cinder ceph cluster? | 15:07 |
mriedem | jdillaman1: nope | 15:07 |
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jdillaman1 | mriedem: seems like cinder should be the authoritative source for how to connect to cinder | 15:08 |
mriedem | jdillaman1: that's what i was wondering in ^ | 15:08 |
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mriedem | the nova.conf auth values for rbd should just be used for the rbd imagebackend in nova | 15:09 |
mriedem | and nova should get the auth from cinder for the volume connection, if it's not there we don't set those values in the disk config | 15:09 |
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smcginnis | +1 | 15:09 |
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jdillaman1 | mriedem: of course, the alternative is that if you want to attach cinder volumes to nova and nova has its own keys, just make sure the nova keys are in both clusters | 15:11 |
jdillaman1 | mriedem: ... since i'm sure you'd hit similar issues with glance | 15:11 |
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mriedem | leakypipes: how can/should we test this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390062/10/nova/api/openstack/placement/handlers/inventory.py@350 | 15:22 |
mriedem | leakypipes: given it's a race that shouldn't happen, the placement/gabbi tests wouldn't probably work | 15:22 |
mriedem | and i don't think we have unit tests for the placement REST API | 15:23 |
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leakypipes | mriedem: yeah, that was my issue with that :) | 15:25 |
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leakypipes | mriedem: I could throw a unit test together.' | 15:25 |
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mriedem | seems we should have one...even if it's just using mocks | 15:26 |
openstackgerrit | BĂ©la Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Reduce (notification) test duplication https://review.openstack.org/391428 | 15:26 |
mriedem | i'd be ok with you posting it on top if you want | 15:26 |
mriedem | so we don't lose alex's +2 | 15:26 |
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danpb1 | oh my god, how on earth did we ever let this merge | 15:29 |
danpb1 | # cinder encryption-type-create --cipher aes-xts-plain64 --key_size 512 \ --control_location front-end LUKS nova.volume.encryptors.luks.LuksEncryptor | 15:29 |
danpb1 | so users of cinder API for encryption have to specify a private nova class name in the public API !?!?!?!? | 15:29 |
danpb1 | if nova ever renames this class, kaboom | 15:30 |
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lyarwood | danpb1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391597/ as I found out here | 15:31 |
danpb1 | we have to burn this to the ground | 15:31 |
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danpb1 | change semantics of 'provider' so that it is an enum of encryption formats "plain", "luks" and if we see a legacy class name rewrite it into one of the enums | 15:32 |
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leakypipes | mriedem: ok, will do a patch atop that series then. thx. | 15:34 |
lyarwood | danpb1: kk, I can take a look at that and switching to os-brick, I wasn't going to push a spec for the straight switch to os-brick but this seems more worthy of one right? | 15:35 |
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mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30976/ | 15:36 |
mriedem | that's how | 15:36 |
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mriedem | i'm more surprised that doesn't predate the split out of nova-volume | 15:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova-specs: Send service token along with user tokens https://review.openstack.org/387711 | 15:38 |
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mriedem | also https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/13.0.0/tempest/scenario/test_encrypted_cinder_volumes.py#L69 | 15:38 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/13.0.0/tempest/scenario/test_encrypted_cinder_volumes.py#L79 | 15:39 |
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cburgess | mriedem reading | 15:42 |
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mriedem | danpb1: if it makes you feel any better, the REST API in cinder to create encryption types isn't documented :) http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/block-storage/v2/ | 15:43 |
aunnam | johnthetubaguy, we drafted steps for zero down time upgrade process here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-zero-time-upgrade-doc. We are not sure if we can add it to nova upgrade doc since we are still testing this. | 15:43 |
danpb1 | mriedem: the cli is documented though :-( http://docs.openstack.org/juno/config-reference/content/section_create-encrypted-volume-type.html | 15:43 |
mriedem | it's an awesome way to drop in your encryption provider | 15:44 |
danpb1 | mriedem: exactly something i wish to prevent ! | 15:44 |
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mriedem | sounds like a good use of the cinder v3 api which has microversoins | 15:47 |
mriedem | add a microversion to accept an enum value | 15:47 |
mriedem | validate the supported enums with jsonschema | 15:47 |
mriedem | all of the work here is in cinder i think | 15:48 |
danpb1 | no reason we can't block arbitrary out of tree plugins in nova even without that | 15:48 |
mriedem | nova just pulls the provider info from cinder metadata | 15:48 |
danpb1 | its been our standard policy that we dont' allow plugins for this kind of thing | 15:48 |
mriedem | what does the nova code do today with something it doesn't recognize? | 15:48 |
mriedem | or does it just classload it? | 15:48 |
danpb1 | it just blindly classloads everything | 15:48 |
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mriedem | yup https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/volume/encryptors/__init__.py#L47 | 15:49 |
cburgess | mriedem So regarding CEPH, first I think the change is a great idea, using separate pools today means no auth so its a good change. | 15:49 |
mriedem | danpb1: so, push a change to make that a warning for ocata and we'll make it an error for pike | 15:49 |
danpb1 | yeah | 15:49 |
mriedem | cburgess: but should we use the nova config for the cinder volume auth if cinder didn't provide auth? that's my question. | 15:50 |
cburgess | mriedem With regard to your question about the conditional fall back of using auth as configured in nova, I agree it doesn't make much sense and that people *should* have the auth info configured in cinder. However the fallback is the behavior today. I'm fine changing the behavior, but we need a release note. Granted this change is release not worthy anyways. | 15:50 |
mriedem | it's what we do today, so my change doesn't change that | 15:50 |
cburgess | mriedem you type faster them me... | 15:50 |
cburgess | mriedem I guess the question is, do you want to change the existing behavior? If so then lets change it and note it. I personally can't think of a good reason you would need this behavior other then being lazy and "its how its always been done". | 15:51 |
mriedem | cburgess: good point on the release note, this does change the behavior | 15:51 |
mriedem | cburgess: how about you -1 my change with notes so i don't forget | 15:52 |
mriedem | :) | 15:52 |
raj_singh | johnthetubaguy: I addressed your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387711/. Please take a look when you get a chance. | 15:52 |
mriedem | get you review stat cookie | 15:52 |
cburgess | mriedem I was just about to say that... | 15:52 |
cburgess | lol I gave up on my stats long long ago. | 15:52 |
leakypipes | sahid: done. | 15:53 |
dims | mriedem : leakypipes : have you heard from anyone at platform9? (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-aws) | 15:54 |
cburgess | mriedem One question, how many releases back has cinder supported passing us the auth info? AKA will we have an upgrade issue here if we don't upgrade in lock step? | 15:54 |
mriedem | dims: someone was in here the other day | 15:55 |
mriedem | bauwser: was talking to them | 15:55 |
mriedem | "talking" | 15:55 |
mriedem | cburgess: forever | 15:55 |
cburgess | mriedem RAD | 15:55 |
dims | cool. i had an email conversation with madhura and requested them to show up here | 15:55 |
mriedem | cburgess: at least liberty which is really all we care about upstream https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/stable/liberty/cinder/volume/drivers/rbd.py#L816 | 15:56 |
sahid | leakypipes: thanks ! | 15:56 |
mriedem | dims: for what purpose? | 15:56 |
mriedem | dims: we're not going to take in an AWS driver to nova | 15:56 |
mriedem | otherwise they can do whatever they want | 15:56 |
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cburgess | mriedem Yeah well Netwen is fine if we ship this in Ocata. Just wanted to be sure this wasn't one of those we need to wait 1 release to change the behavior things. | 15:56 |
dims | mriedem : right, they need to know that and i wanted them to hear from you all | 15:57 |
mriedem | cburgess: don't think so | 15:57 |
mriedem | dims: ok, i think sach-m was the person, something like that | 15:57 |
dims | sounds good mriedem. | 15:57 |
cburgess | mriedem review updated | 15:57 |
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mriedem | whoever they were, i think they probably understood the position from myself and bauwser | 15:58 |
mriedem | cburgess: thanks | 15:58 |
mdbooth | danpb1: Should we generate a connection down event if the initial connect attempt fails? | 15:58 |
cburgess | superdan Looks like you pinged me yesterday and I missed it | 15:58 |
dims | mriedem : perfect. thanks. | 15:58 |
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mriedem | oh i didn't realize they had a blueprint... | 15:58 |
mriedem | well then | 15:58 |
mriedem | let me get my red marker | 15:58 |
superdan | cburgess: I got my jollies from someone else because you weren't around | 15:58 |
dims | haha | 15:58 |
cburgess | mriedem dims Is this a driver thats going to call AWS APIs to create VMs? | 15:59 |
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cburgess | superdan :( | 15:59 |
cburgess | superdan The curse of meetings | 15:59 |
dims | cburgess : yep | 15:59 |
superdan | cburgess: just kidding, if I pinged you I don't remember what it was for | 15:59 |
dims | cburgess : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~smanpathak?searchtext=-aws | 15:59 |
cburgess | dims I..... cant't even... nope... | 15:59 |
danpb1 | mdbooth: hmm, not sure really | 15:59 |
cburgess | Its an interesting idea... | 15:59 |
cburgess | But... yeah | 16:00 |
mriedem | cburgess: in bcn you were very much the devil's advocate on giving the people what they wanted :) | 16:00 |
cburgess | superdan Oh my bad I missed the context, you and I were talking and you laughed at something I said.. my bad. | 16:00 |
mdbooth | danpb1: We did before. Then I changed something and now we don't. | 16:00 |
superdan | heh | 16:00 |
mdbooth | danpb1: I guess we probably should, because I think the default state of a service is to be available, right? | 16:01 |
mdbooth | Can anybody else confirm? | 16:01 |
cburgess | mriedem I think you miss-understood my stance. I was playing devil's advocate to an extent but i think nova drivers should focus on control hypervisor/virtualization layers running on individual machines. I don't think linking to another cloud is a good idea. And I have mixed opinions about the whole controlling a cluster of hypervisor's drivers. | 16:02 |
mriedem | they could work this into jacket | 16:02 |
dims | mriedem : found the irc logs with sach-m. thanks | 16:03 |
mriedem | wikiware | 16:03 |
mriedem | dims: np | 16:03 |
cburgess | mriedem I guess what I'm saying is... there are limits to how far it should go. But honestly I don't have a problem with nova. There is a larger issue around drivers and vendors in the community that impacts cinder and neutron more. I can't say I find fault with nova's stance. | 16:03 |
mriedem | omni is really just jacket | 16:03 |
mriedem | danpb1: ping me or add me to the patch for logging a warning on the encryptor classloading thing when it's up | 16:05 |
* dims strikes one thing of his follow up list :) | 16:05 | |
danpb1 | mriedem: will do | 16:05 |
leakypipes | quick, dims now has bandwidth. somebody add a todo item to his queue. | 16:06 |
dims | :) | 16:06 |
leakypipes | :P | 16:06 |
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lyarwood | danpb1: mind if I take a swing at that if you're not already working on it? | 16:06 |
openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Validate instance name before creating https://review.openstack.org/392305 | 16:06 |
mriedem | dims: if you're bored, add something to oslo.messaging to let nova know if notifications are setup for a given host/queue | 16:08 |
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mriedem | so we don't have to build notification payloads that won't be sent | 16:08 |
superdan | thinking out loud here.. that cells scheduling series ends up with everything apparently happy, although networking isn't connected for the instance | 16:09 |
superdan | neutron seems happy, nova seems happy, just no packets | 16:09 |
superdan | even the instance is happy with its address and all | 16:09 |
superdan | puzzle. | 16:09 |
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cburgess | superdan "no packets" but DHCP works? | 16:09 |
superdan | cburgess: yeah | 16:09 |
openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Allow finding instance with invalid regex name https://review.openstack.org/392305 | 16:10 |
cburgess | superdan *blink* | 16:10 |
superdan | cburgess: ikr? | 16:10 |
cburgess | Asking the obvious, you've check the iptables and ebtables rules? | 16:10 |
dims | mriedem : that would be helpful for sure. | 16:10 |
superdan | cburgess: well, haven't really gotten that far, just repro'ing something in the gate after that scheduler change, which really shouldn't impact networking | 16:11 |
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superdan | unless we weren't setting up the port or something, but .. we are | 16:11 |
cburgess | Oh.. gate... single node or multi-node? | 16:12 |
superdan | single | 16:12 |
cburgess | OK so the DHCP packets stay on the same bridge then I guess. Where are you attempting to talk to it from that doesn't work? | 16:12 |
dims | mriedem : threw that into a bug for now https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1639287 | 16:13 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1639287 in oslo.messaging "oslo.messaging support for nova to query if notifications are setup for a given host/queue" [Undecided,New] | 16:13 |
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superdan | cburgess: the host | 16:13 |
superdan | cburgess: I'll start debugging now, I'm just kindof amazed that this unrelated change broke it, but .. it did | 16:13 |
cburgess | superdan yeah that sounds very very odd | 16:14 |
superdan | aye | 16:14 |
mriedem | dims: thanks | 16:14 |
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mriedem | bauwser: alex_xu: i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386843/ is ready to go | 16:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: Remove check_attach https://review.openstack.org/335358 | 16:24 |
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danpb1 | mriedem: lyarwood https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1639293 | 16:29 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1639293 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cinder encrypted vol connection info include full nova internal class name " [Undecided,New] | 16:29 |
danpb1 | i outlined a plan of attack to fixing the mess int e bug | 16:30 |
danpb1 | lyarwood: i've not writen code, so if you want to write some, go ahead | 16:30 |
danpb1 | lyarwood: we'd want todo the validation in the place where we call the cinder client api | 16:30 |
danpb1 | lyarwood: which looks like nova/volume/cinder.py get_volume_encryption_metadata() method | 16:31 |
lyarwood | danpb1: cool thanks, yeah happy to take this on, thanks! | 16:36 |
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lascii | o/ | 17:04 |
superdan | lascii: ohai | 17:05 |
lascii | superdan: now that I'm in this timezone I see why you get online so early. Half the conversations are over by the time I get in here | 17:07 |
superdan | lascii: heh, in PDT? | 17:07 |
superdan | even 10AM PDT is late :) | 17:07 |
lascii | fair :) I have been online sine 830 or so, just busy | 17:08 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Call host connection callbacks asynchronously https://review.openstack.org/393869 | 17:08 |
mdbooth | danpb1: https://review.openstack.org/393869 | 17:08 |
superdan | lascii: did you see the scrollback of my current conundrum ? | 17:08 |
lascii | superdan: I have not, my bouncer only sends like 20 lines of scrollback when I connect. I need to figure out how to change that someday... | 17:09 |
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superdan | lascii: that top patch to do the instance create in conductor completely breaks networking to the guests, but everything *appears* right | 17:10 |
superdan | ports up, guest gets dhcp, etc | 17:10 |
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lascii | superdan: and all that really changed was the db create happens later? | 17:11 |
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superdan | ooh, I just figured out a thing | 17:12 |
superdan | lascii: well, I mean you know what's in that patch.. theoretically that's all | 17:12 |
superdan | however, | 17:12 |
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superdan | the security group in neutron isn't setup | 17:13 |
superdan | if I add a rule, it seems to work | 17:13 |
superdan | I wonder if the api is still trying to do secgroup things before the instance is created, and failing.. or something? | 17:13 |
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johnthetubaguy | superdan: the security groups are still happening really early, I need to get the spec up for that move to conductor stuff | 17:17 |
superdan | johnthetubaguy: what do you mean by that? really early in instance boot or ? | 17:17 |
lascii | superdan: it appears that security group setup all happens before instance creation even now. however it is currently setting that on instance at create time in nova-api, I don't see that info getting sent to conductor with buildreq | 17:18 |
lascii | so it may not be getting set on an instance during conductor creation | 17:18 |
johnthetubaguy | superdan: I was thinking it happened in the API, but I think I just got myself confused thinking about it | 17:18 |
superdan | lascii: so, I don't see any secgroups other than the default one | 17:18 |
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superdan | lascii: I wonder if my local testing isn't reproducing some tempest secgroup setup, and that the tempest secgroup stuff is failing to work for some other reason, hmm | 17:19 |
superdan | http://logs.openstack.org/79/319379/26/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/e882fbb/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 17:20 |
superdan | test_port_security_disable_security_group fails to do something | 17:21 |
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superdan | ah, yep, | 17:22 |
superdan | that fails because we create a server with a secgroup, but it only gets the default one | 17:22 |
superdan | that must be it | 17:22 |
lascii | is it possible that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374267/9/nova/objects/build_request.py is failing to retrieve the security group that should be stored there? | 17:22 |
superdan | meaning the fake instance we return doesn't have the secgroups that the buildreq says should be there? | 17:23 |
superdan | sounds reasonable | 17:23 |
lascii | what's happening is that security groups are set on the instance object, that's then stuffed into the buildreq and persisted, then it's retrieved from buildreq later to do the actual instance creation | 17:23 |
lascii | yeah | 17:23 |
johnthetubaguy | so I was just looking in here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L913 seems we only pass security_groups into the create instance | 17:23 |
lascii | I'm wondering if that data is getting lost in there somehow | 17:24 |
lascii | gotta run for a bit | 17:24 |
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superdan | lascii: yeah, I'll dump some debug to see if it's in the buildreq or not | 17:24 |
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superdan | 2016-11-04 10:26:40.991 INFO nova.objects.build_request [req-42a3ed64-038b-4b1c-8fec-11635298f7f6 demo demo] Set security_groups=SecurityGroupList(objects=[]) (SecurityGroupList(objects=[])) | 17:26 |
superdan | well, heh, that's because I didn't specify one | 17:27 |
superdan | still empty though when I do, so.. I think that must be it | 17:28 |
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superdan | lascii: hmm, your commit here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/1aca8b103c7c7090cfd35991da97575fe8a6ab2c | 17:41 |
superdan | lascii: returns an empty list for neutron always, | 17:41 |
superdan | from populate_security_groups(), | 17:41 |
superdan | which is what we're setting on that buildreq always, and thus getting an empty list | 17:41 |
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superdan | which sure enough is because we'd end up with a db failure to create the instance with those secgroups in our db | 17:46 |
superdan | guh | 17:46 |
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cfriesen__ | any chance a second core could take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346263 ? | 18:00 |
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openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add prep-for-network-aware-scheduling-ocata spec https://review.openstack.org/393888 | 18:07 |
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thorst | Hey - if anyone has a chance can you re-review the PowerVM Blueprint. Updated it based off unconference feedback. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381772/ | 18:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Use an EncryptionProvider enum https://review.openstack.org/393901 | 18:37 |
lyarwood | mriedem: if you have anytime this afternoon is ^ anything close to what you were asking danpb for earlier? | 18:38 |
prateek | leakypipes, how do you test placement API's ? I tried to a --debug on nova list and hitting that API but that gives me unauthorized. | 18:38 |
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mriedem | lyarwood: might be overthinking it, but it's along the same lines | 18:44 |
mriedem | lyarwood: that change isn't backward compatible though, left some comments inline | 18:44 |
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lyarwood | mriedem: thanks, missed the stupid Friday typo in there | 18:48 |
lyarwood | mriedem: re the short name values for the enums they aren't used outside of our unittests so it's not breaking anything thankfully. | 18:49 |
mriedem | it'll break tempest | 18:50 |
lyarwood | ah crap, thanks | 18:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Use an EncryptionProvider enum https://review.openstack.org/393901 | 19:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.create notification https://review.openstack.org/384621 | 19:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Use an EncryptionProvider enum https://review.openstack.org/393901 | 19:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Allow finding instance with invalid regex name https://review.openstack.org/392305 | 19:42 |
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paw | Hi, I'm trying to look for the exact requirements on how graphic addresses (vnc/spice) should be configured wrt validation. ie should both sides be local? what about catch all address? | 19:54 |
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bauwser | mriedem: back here, okay, will sneak peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386843/11 | 20:06 |
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openstackgerrit | NITIN GUPTA proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added a new nova CLI command "nova delete-all" for deleting all VMs in one go, excluding those mentioned using "--exclude" option https://review.openstack.org/393923 | 20:19 |
sach-m_ | re: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-aws. Trying to see if we can do this in some other shape/form. The major objection seems to be the implementation of it as a driver. What if this was a thin layer behind API which forwards the calls to cloud? | 20:20 |
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mriedem | sach-m_: we already had the ec2 api shim in tree | 20:23 |
mriedem | it wasn't maintained | 20:23 |
mriedem | that's been much happier in the ec2api repo in github | 20:23 |
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openstackgerrit | NITIN GUPTA proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added a new nova CLI command "nova delete-all" for deleting all VMs in one go, excluding those mentioned using "--exclude" option https://review.openstack.org/393923 | 20:25 |
sach-m_ | mriedem: You mean the ec2api supported by nova-api before? As in use ec2 api to access openstack cloud? | 20:25 |
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mriedem | no, sorry, i guess you're asking for something different? | 20:26 |
mriedem | still, | 20:26 |
mriedem | nova api shouldn't be a proxy to AWS | 20:26 |
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karthike1991 | hi, when i am doing vm change flavor, my vm is getting migrated to different compute host and getting this | 20:28 |
karthike1991 | [Error: Cannot access storage file '/var/lib/nova/instances/<id>/disk' (as uid:108, gid:117): Permission denied]. | 20:29 |
karthike1991 | what can be the reason? | 20:29 |
sach-m_ | mriedem: I'm suggesting a way to provision instances on public cloud with nova API. | 20:29 |
mriedem | sach-m_: if you were going to put an aws proxy in for openstack, you could do it in something like this project https://github.com/softlayer/jumpgate | 20:29 |
mriedem | ^ has a driver for softlayer, | 20:29 |
mriedem | so proxy openstack API requests to SL API | 20:29 |
mriedem | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Jacket is the virt driver idea, but jacket doesn't have code | 20:30 |
mriedem | and i think jacket and omni are equivalent ideas? | 20:30 |
mriedem | yeah https://github.com/platform9/openstack-omni/blob/master/nova/ec2/ec2driver.py#L135 | 20:30 |
mriedem | omni is an ec2 virt driver | 20:30 |
mriedem | i believe jacket is the same idea, but w/o code | 20:31 |
mriedem | :) | 20:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: conf: added notifications group https://review.openstack.org/392145 | 20:34 |
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mriedem | artom_: you don't have a spec up for exposing bdm tags in the rest api do you? | 20:34 |
mriedem | b/c i'm writing one if not | 20:34 |
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artom_ | mriedem, go for it :) | 20:35 |
artom_ | mriedem, only bdm? | 20:35 |
mriedem | for now | 20:36 |
mriedem | b/c we haven't sorted out what we're doing with the os-virtual-interfaces and os-interfaces APIs | 20:36 |
mriedem | we want to merged/deprecate one of those | 20:36 |
mriedem | but it's complicated and i want to punt on that for ocata | 20:36 |
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artom_ | Err wait, which one of those is attaching interfaces? Because that's the one I'm adding tags to... | 20:37 |
artom_ | Aha, http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=create-interface-detail#create-interface | 20:38 |
artom_ | os-interface | 20:38 |
artom_ | os-virtual-interfaces is just listing them, surely that can just be deprecated? | 20:39 |
artom_ | But maybe you're right, punt on that for ocata so that we can discuss this properly and think of all the ramifications... | 20:39 |
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mriedem | os-attach-interface is the one that eventually calls allocate_for_instance in neutron to create a port and attach to the server | 20:43 |
mriedem | i think that's the long-term one we're going to keep | 20:43 |
sach-m_ | mriedem: Thanks. Some nova functionality is still appealing though. e.g. Quotas, ssh keys, flavors, etc. Trying to see how those can be leveraged with proxy approach. | 20:43 |
mriedem | os-virtual-interface is nova-net only b/c it uses the db | 20:43 |
mriedem | sach-m_: you could still do those in a project like jumpgate | 20:43 |
mriedem | the problem with jumpgate is each driver has to process the nova API request separately | 20:44 |
mriedem | so it's not super useful | 20:44 |
artom_ | mriedem, by the way, remember you asked for the vif tag creating to be moved to neutronv2/api.py? | 20:44 |
mriedem | artom_: instead of compute manager? | 20:44 |
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artom_ | mriedem, yeah. Smart call, in order to add tags to attaching interfaces all I had to do was pass the tag from the api down to the NetworkRequest object, everything else just works automagically. | 20:44 |
mriedem | artom_: i'll admit, i'm pretty amazing | 20:45 |
artom_ | mriedem, yeah, I seldom see such smart people be so modest. | 20:45 |
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mriedem | :) | 20:46 |
cburgess | mriedem and modest too | 20:46 |
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* artom_ goes to pick up daughter from daycare | 20:46 | |
cburgess | Oh wait... artom_ already said that... /sigh | 20:46 |
cburgess | Don't mind me, I'm just slow | 20:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: conf: move console opt to console group https://review.openstack.org/389647 | 20:48 |
sach-m_ | mriedem: My point as well. Nova is a bit of exception, but the cinder and neutron drivers fit. If this keeps too far from main openstack constructs like simple API router, it's not that interesting. | 20:49 |
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openstackgerrit | NITIN GUPTA proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added a new nova CLI command "nova delete-all" for deleting all VMs in one go, excluding those mentioned using "--exclude" option https://review.openstack.org/393923 | 20:50 |
sach-m_ | mriedem: I would prefer using openstack like images, flavors, keys etc. with a public cloud. Higher layers like heat and murano magically work with this approach | 20:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Expose BDM tags in REST API https://review.openstack.org/393930 | 21:03 |
openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Add zero down time upgrade steps https://review.openstack.org/393931 | 21:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Add zero down time upgrade steps https://review.openstack.org/393931 | 21:35 |
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mriedem | paw: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1639312 | 21:49 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1639312 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova does not validate graphics console addresses" [Undecided,New] | 21:49 |
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mriedem | gd launchpad timeouts | 22:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Add zero down time upgrade steps https://review.openstack.org/393931 | 22:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: fix addFloatingIp action docs https://review.openstack.org/393951 | 23:07 |
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