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| EmilienM | mriedem: nevermind my comment a few hours ago about runtime. We found out that's something in our deployment & fixing it now. | 02:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor a test method including 7 test cases https://review.openstack.org/395436 | 07:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova master: Completely remove mox from objects/test_instance.py https://review.openstack.org/343465 | 07:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/nova master: Optimize time during PCI alias parsing process https://review.openstack.org/427145 | 08:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Stop using mox in test_compute_cells.py https://review.openstack.org/389750 | 08:28 |
| openstackgerrit | MarkMielke proposed openstack/nova master: DiskFilter should only apply when storage is requested https://review.openstack.org/430091 | 08:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Stop using mox in virt/xenapi/image/test_glance.py https://review.openstack.org/327457 | 08:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in nova/tests/unit/compute/test_shelve.py (3) https://review.openstack.org/342648 | 08:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox from unit/api/openstack/compute/test_aggregates.py https://review.openstack.org/321351 | 08:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Stop using mox int unit/virt/xenapi/image/test_utils.py https://review.openstack.org/342626 | 08:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/cells/test_cells_manager.py https://review.openstack.org/399036 | 08:32 |
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| lyarwood | mriedem: yeah I also have a series downstream backporting that and I2a2c80a164b9f75d0e7e0503a24194bedfc0e66b , I've also included Ifa1fb061df697f03893171a8c6ba96154ec8a29d & I45ac06eae0b1949f746dae305469718649bfcf23 | 09:05 |
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| snikitin | mriedem: Hello! As master is opened for Pike, can we merge RPC version aliases for Ocata? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425958 | 10:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | snikitin: good question, I would talk to dansmith about that | 11:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | snikitin: I think we normally backport them too, if I remember correctly | 11:22 |
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| snikitin | johnthetubaguy: thanks for information! | 11:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | snikitin: I think this is where we record what we normally do: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/ReleaseChecklist | 11:25 |
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| snikitin | johnthetubaguy: good. But I think I confused you. I meant I need to merge this patch just in master. "RPC version aliases for Ocata" is just a title of the patch. | 11:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: encryptors: Switch to os-brick encryptor classes https://review.openstack.org/391597 | 11:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | snikitin: no, no, agreed with you, I think | 11:44 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: hi! if you have some time could you please look at the patches on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+topic:bp/versioned-notification-transformation-pike ? | 11:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: honestly, stuck in planning and spec land pre PTG, but I hope to take a look at those soon-ish | 11:49 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: OK, thanks! | 11:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add service_token for nova-glance interaction https://review.openstack.org/419662 | 11:55 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Test service token in Glance https://review.openstack.org/419666 | 11:56 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Test service token in Glance https://review.openstack.org/419666 | 11:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: utils.get_disk return the target dev of the root device https://review.openstack.org/402716 | 12:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Make guest.BlockDevice only use the target dev of a disk https://review.openstack.org/402163 | 12:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Reconnect volumes and encryptors during a hard reboot https://review.openstack.org/400384 | 12:15 |
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| alex_xu | nova api meeting is in 15 mins at #openstack-meeting-4 | 12:45 |
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| abhishekk | hi all, any input why to use n-api-metadata service? | 12:56 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sdague gmann api meeting is running~ | 13:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova master: Tolerate jsonschema==2.6.0 https://review.openstack.org/434264 | 13:19 |
| mriedem | snikitin: soon. we can do the rpc aliases after we cut rc2 | 13:21 |
| mriedem | which should be tomorrow | 13:21 |
| snikitin | great, thanks | 13:21 |
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| mriedem | lyarwood: do we need this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416557/ | 13:23 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: bauzas: for rc2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433932/ | 13:24 |
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| lyarwood | mriedem: going over this again I don't think we do, sorry about that | 13:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I did still wonder about getting this into rc2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430400/ | 13:30 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: roger, looking | 13:32 |
| lyarwood | mriedem: actually, that does make https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416558/ possible so we do need it as a dependancy | 13:32 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1663317 seems to me rather a new feature for supporting IPv6 than a bug, agreed ? | 13:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1663317 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "IPv6 neighbor discovery not getting through qbr bridge" [Undecided,New] | 13:34 |
| bauzas | mriedem: we did cut IPv6 for the bridge because of the security issue, but we don't had yet a solution for the above point | 13:35 |
| bauzas | mriedem: either way, I'm about to mark it invalid unless you have other thoughts | 13:35 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: isn't that latent? | 13:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, thats true, I have live-migrate on the brain a bit right now | 13:40 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: yeah i'd rather just backport that after ocata is released | 13:40 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: i don't really know anything about that ipv6 bug | 13:41 |
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| mriedem | lyarwood: ok +2 | 13:46 |
| mriedem | lyarwood: can you get this in? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433922/ | 13:46 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: we've got a +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433257/ if you're happy with it, then i'm going to backport for rc2 | 13:48 |
| bauzas | mriedem: okay, no worries, I have enough knowledge and understanding for at least replying to the reporter | 13:48 |
| mriedem | on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432954/ | 13:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: ah, looking | 13:48 |
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| lyarwood | mriedem: yup looking, the fix for the CI failure landed already right? | 13:49 |
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| bhagyashris | mriedem: Hi, Could please review the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409644/ ? if you get time | 13:49 |
| mriedem | lyarwood: yeah | 13:49 |
| mriedem | bhagyashris: that's an api change, so probably need alex_xu to also look at that | 13:50 |
| * alex_xu copy that | 13:50 | |
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| bhagyashris | mriedem: ok. Thanks for review. | 13:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova master: Tolerate WebOb===1.7.1 https://review.openstack.org/434285 | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: the ci failure on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433257/ is due to the cells v1 test_stamp_pattern blocking bug from yesterday | 14:07 |
| mriedem | already rechecked | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | sorry to push but i've got meetings most of the day so won't have a ton of time for dealing with thi | 14:08 |
| mriedem | *this | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, was just thinking about waiting for the recheck, but happy to +W it if you are happy thats likely to work | 14:08 |
| mriedem | i guarantee it :) | 14:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/432001 | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: sure :) | 14:09 |
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| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389338/ ? I replied to your question on PS5 | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: sorry, I don't see any emails from gerrit right now, I just get noise from the system, I must attempt to fix that again | 14:21 |
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| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: no problem. gerrit emails tend to be just noise in many cases :-) | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova master: Tolerate WebOb===1.7.1 https://review.openstack.org/434285 | 14:32 |
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| mordred | sdague: the add-flavor-to-server thing we were talking about a few days ago - has there been any discussion of doing the same thing with image? (I'm guessing not, since that's proxy info, but thought I'd ask) | 14:34 |
| sdague | mordred: there has not been | 14:35 |
| sdague | the difference with add-flavor-to-server is we actually do that internally already | 14:35 |
| mordred | nod | 14:36 |
| sdague | to protect you from a class of errors, all the flavor info is copied into the instance on boot | 14:36 |
| sdague | and that's the data that is operated on from there on out | 14:36 |
| mordred | ahhhh. so that makes adding it actually quite easy then :) | 14:37 |
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| sdague | right | 14:37 |
| mordred | sdague: it came to mind because of the random email I read and answered on the openstack@ list ... someone was asking if there was a rest api to find the os of a server - and I responded that the best chance was looking at the image, but that it might be gone | 14:37 |
| mordred | and it reminded me of the flavor thing | 14:37 |
| sdague | yeh | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Hironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox from tests/unit/conductor/tasks/test_live_migrate.py(4) https://review.openstack.org/312589 | 14:38 |
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| sdague | mordred: that just gets into the realm where we split up the concerns a while ago | 14:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mordred: for image stuff, this spec nicely hints on some of the problems we have right now: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/virt-image-props-boot-override.html | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | I wish we had been able to get that one done | 14:40 |
| sdague | if we want to be able to interogate nova for these things, you start asking the question about whether glance really should remain an independent concern | 14:41 |
| mordred | johnthetubaguy: zomg. can I mention how crazy I think it is that image props affect instance booting? | 14:41 |
| sdague | mordred: why? | 14:41 |
| mordred | sdague: because to me an image is a filesystem, not a machine. the machine is the thing I ask nova to create at boot time | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | there was that lib that would help us kill half of them | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | mordred: but that image has requirements in order to work | 14:42 |
| mordred | so having some random property have magic effects that are not expected is very weird | 14:42 |
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| mordred | but that's lkely just a problem in my brain | 14:44 |
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| mordred | but it's also a super weird experience for those of us who upload our own images rather than using provider provided images | 14:44 |
| sdague | mordred: things also get a bit more complicated when you mix in windows | 14:45 |
| mordred | because there are operational things, like whether or not the hypervisor should try to do things with agents or whatnot that as a user I have no way of really knowing - and as an unpriviledged user I likely should not be able to set | 14:45 |
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| mordred | but that are requirements for working booting of an image | 14:45 |
| mordred | sdague: I'm sure they do | 14:46 |
| mordred | like - in rackspace I have to set "vm_mode: hvm" on an image to make that image work on the performance flavors (or at least, I used to need to do that, I do not know if it's still required) | 14:47 |
| mordred | and I also have to set xenapi_use_agent: false to avoid the hypervisor barfing when my image doesn't do callbacks to the xenapi agent | 14:47 |
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| sdague | mordred: is your concern that those nobs exist? | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: check if the problem is reproduced in the gate https://review.openstack.org/434327 | 14:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mordred: thats because we have images that work best with lots of those combinations, and they get inherited by parent snapshots, etc | 14:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | mordred: now I am tempted to hide most of those from users, but if you upload your own image, you will need it | 14:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mordred: FWIW, the upstream default is for xenapi_use_agent to be False, but thats doesn't work when most of your snapshots never had that set | 14:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | (thats me saying, it sure sucks, but not sure how to make it better) | 14:58 |
| mordred | yah - I hear that - it's just an implementation detail leaking through. as a user, I am of the belief that I should not need to know that you run xen at all | 14:59 |
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| mordred | but that likely stems from not being a person who has access to hypervisors or a background with managing virtualization infrastructure | 15:00 |
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| mordred | sdague: I think my concern is mostly around the fact that most if not all of the image properties that affect compute opertaion are hypervisor specific and therefore fundamentally not interoperable | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | we have actively tried to standardise the ones that are cross hypervisor | 15:01 |
| mordred | that said - when we talk about discovery - this is an area to add to the bucket "what knobs does this cloud have for images that I might should be setting" | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is the libvirt lib effort thing | 15:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | were you say its this standard type X, and the hypervisor just picks what is best for that | 15:02 |
| mordred | that sounds lovely! | 15:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | (tries to find the spec for that) | 15:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/implemented/libvirt-hardware-policy-from-libosinfo.html | 15:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | that stops a chunk of the hurt ^ | 15:03 |
| sdague | mordred: yeh, there is also a place where if you know more about the details of what is in the image vs it being a black box, you can be more efficient. | 15:03 |
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| mordred | johnthetubaguy: yes! that seems wonderful | 15:03 |
| BobBall | It's libvirt only - it wouldn't stop any of mordred's XenAPI-based hurt... | 15:03 |
| sdague | if the user can't upload images, the user never has to know that, the metadata can be annotated on the image, and hid from the user | 15:03 |
| mordred | sdague: this is true - but if the user can't upload images the cross-cloud interop story is much much worse | 15:04 |
| sdague | but if the user does upload images, there does become a point where you either expose things, or have them run in lowest common denominator state | 15:04 |
| sdague | it is a leaky abstraction for sure | 15:04 |
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| sdague | I just don't know how it gets eliminated and not just turn into mud | 15:04 |
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| mordred | sdague: having a spec for annotating information about this image "this image runs ubuntu" seems non-weird | 15:04 |
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| mordred | or having that be discoverable even - but just a known standard for things that are facts about the image that I can be expected to know as an image creator | 15:05 |
| mordred | seems great | 15:05 |
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| mordred | having the annotations be instrucitons to the hypervisor about what to do, on the other hand, is where I believe things fall apart a bit | 15:05 |
| mordred | "this image runs ubuntu and does not run any boot agents" is a totally fair thing for me to assert as a user | 15:06 |
| mordred | "please boot this using the pvm mode of the hypervisor" less so | 15:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mordred: thats fine, then run it in the default mode, and it should work | 15:07 |
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| BobBall | How would you distinguish between a PV and HVM-type guest? In Xen they are fundamentally different things (PV being co-operatively booted with the host's kernel and HVM being fully isolated) | 15:07 |
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| mordred | BobBall: that's just the thing - I'm an openstack user, not a xen user - I have no clue what pv vs hvm even means | 15:07 |
| BobBall | HVM should be the default and should almost always work - but we do still need a way to say it's a PV guest | 15:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: we took out the code that attempted that, it was evil (used pygrub) | 15:07 |
| mordred | I have an image that contains an installation of ubuntu | 15:07 |
| BobBall | I thought the default was to boot HVM if neither were specified - perhaps I am mistaken? | 15:08 |
| BobBall | If that's not the case, it should be. | 15:08 |
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| mordred | at least at some point in the past I have had to specify that on images explicitly | 15:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: so funny thing, HVM for windows, PV for linux, becuase.... history | 15:09 |
| mordred | (so we just continue to specify it - I have not checked if it's still actually required) | 15:09 |
| BobBall | Yes, true. | 15:09 |
| sdague | mordred: I think the issue here is that xen pv mode is closer conceptually to a container (it's not really, but it does have cooperation with host) | 15:09 |
| sdague | and, sure, the logic should probably be inverted to default to "no host coop" | 15:09 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: So let's fix that now - we can notify a change in Pike and fix it after? | 15:09 |
| sdague | and you annotate if your image can host coop | 15:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: it breaks every existing image from booting | 15:09 |
| mordred | sdague: and I think that's the sort of thing I'd personally love to see in a magical world | 15:10 |
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| mordred | "this image can boot cooperatively with a host" is a thing I could see asserting | 15:10 |
| mordred | or "this images needs to run its own kernel" | 15:10 |
| sdague | this image needs this network device model | 15:11 |
| mordred | yah | 15:11 |
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| sdague | so, I think that is where we are headed, there is some rax specific stuff that's predated standardizing all of this | 15:11 |
| mordred | and if there was just a catalog of those that was known (and they were all phrased as describing qualities of the image and not the hypervisor behavior) I think it woudl be much less cognitavely dissonant | 15:12 |
| mordred | woot! | 15:12 |
| mordred | (I'm fine dealing with hysterical raisins) | 15:12 |
| sdague | but, rax is enough of a fork, don't paint the rest of nova in that light :) | 15:12 |
| mordred | turns out rax also ran this stuff in produciton way before anyone else | 15:12 |
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| sdague | yep | 15:12 |
| mordred | so even though I complain I think they also get a little more rope | 15:12 |
| mordred | I mostly just want to make sure that the bitching is at least a little productive eventually :) | 15:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | its just a case of deprecating and find a path forward | 15:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | but most of that is there right now for libvirt, I believe | 15:14 |
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| mordred | fwiw - this conversation has helped me understand why having a property on an image that relates to hypervisor behavior is not crazy | 15:15 |
| mordred | so thanks to you all | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jordan Pittier proposed openstack/nova master: api/metadata/vendordata_dynamic: don't import Requests for its constants https://review.openstack.org/434339 | 15:17 |
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| hongbin | alex_xu: ping | 15:21 |
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| mriedem1 | lyarwood: the ocata change for this is merged now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429416/ | 15:37 |
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| lyarwood | mriedem: ack thanks | 15:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/nova master: Optimize time during PCI alias parsing process https://review.openstack.org/427145 | 15:44 |
| BobBall | dansmith: Any chance you can re-review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424428/ ? I understand a backport is v.tricky so we'd dearly love to get the fix in Ocata. | 15:44 |
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| dansmith | BobBall: yesterday I said I had looked at the object stuff and was okay with it, but didn't have time to really do the rest... I was kinda punting to mriedem at that point.. did he say yay or nay about it? | 15:55 |
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| BobBall | Ah, no, mriedem hasn't looked at it. | 15:56 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: for your benefit: | 15:57 |
| BobBall | I guess you don't expect time to look at the rest of the patch today? | 15:57 |
| dansmith | 07:55:24] <dansmith>BobBall: yesterday I said I had looked at the object stuff and was okay with it, but didn't have time to really do the rest... I was kinda punting to mriedem at that point.. did he say yay or nay about it? | 15:57 |
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| dansmith | BobBall: I've got something going on for the next couple hours but could probably look at it after that if mriedem agrees that we should get it into rc2 | 15:57 |
| mriedem | BobBall: i planned on reviewing it today | 15:58 |
| mriedem | i'm in meetings for the next couple of hours | 15:58 |
| BobBall | Ah - awesome. Thanks both. | 15:58 |
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| mriedem | it's the last thing i'm trying to get into rc2 before we cut it | 15:58 |
| BobBall | Cool. I'll keep my eyes open for any changes or feedback that's needed. | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform missing delete notifications https://review.openstack.org/410297 | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova master: Change parent of diagnostics objects to NovaObject class https://review.openstack.org/394480 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova master: Standardization of VM diagnostics info API. https://review.openstack.org/355540 | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova master: Completed implementation of instance diagnostics for Xen https://review.openstack.org/399613 | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova master: Add RPC version aliases for Ocata https://review.openstack.org/425958 | 16:13 |
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| mordred | sdague, mriedem did anything change in the last couple of days related to nova usage? | 16:42 |
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| mordred | specifically, did total_hours go away? | 16:42 |
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| mriedem | simple tenant usage? | 16:44 |
| sdague | still looks like it's in master to me | 16:44 |
| mriedem | which microversion? | 16:44 |
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| mordred | latest | 16:52 |
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| mordred | so there was a change to remove that in latest microversion? /me goes to look at microversion docs | 16:52 |
| mordred | the only change I see is the 2.40 one which adds pagination ... does the text there https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversion_history.html#id36 mean that the total fields are just gone now? | 16:53 |
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| diana_clarke | mordred: totals should still be there, but they only reflect a "page" of data and may need to be stitched back together | 16:54 |
| diana_clarke | mordred: pastebin an api response, so I can see what you're seeing? | 16:54 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: hrm. well - I'm getting this: http://logs.openstack.org/44/434344/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-libs-nv/495b14a/console.html#_2017-02-15_16_10_01_704583 | 16:54 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: but unfortunately there is no nova api in the log there ... I'm making a patch now to try to capture more things | 16:55 |
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| jroll | hey nova, this refactor has been sitting for a while, if you'd like an easy-ish review :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399022/ | 17:05 |
| jroll | +13, -285 btw :D | 17:05 |
| mriedem | jroll: that reminds me, how do we ci test the hashring stuff? weren't there ideas on that with a multinode job? | 17:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: remove *_topic config opts https://review.openstack.org/433924 | 17:07 |
| jroll | mriedem: yeah, we've been working on a multinode job, which I believe has two computes | 17:07 |
| jroll | idk if we want to do anything fancy like bring on compute host down | 17:07 |
| mriedem | probably not if yo'ure running tempest on it at the same time | 17:08 |
| * jroll wonders which experimental jobs mriedem is trying to run | 17:08 | |
| jroll | right | 17:08 |
| mriedem | jroll: the ironic networking one | 17:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Adding tags field to InstancePayload https://review.openstack.org/407228 | 17:08 |
| jroll | we could do something in setup, though | 17:08 |
| mriedem | jroll: you could write your own integration tests for it i guess... | 17:08 |
| jroll | or that yeah | 17:08 |
| * jroll will need to ponder it more | 17:08 | |
| mriedem | ironic-ha-dsvm-integration | 17:08 |
| jroll | ya | 17:09 |
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| mriedem | sdague: i've got the backport on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432954/ for the CONF.placement.os_interface fixes so can you change that -1 to a +2? | 17:10 |
| mordred | morgan, mriedem: either of you know what, if anyhting, I need to do with the novaclient Client constructor or python logging to get http debug tracing from novaclient commands? I don't seem to be getting them just from setting keystoneauth logger to debug | 17:10 |
| mriedem | mordred: python logging is always greek to me, i did this in nova for enabling debug logging with glanceclient https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/config.py#L38 | 17:11 |
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| jroll | mriedem: I don't believe that ironic networking job is multinode, fwiw, unless you think this might affect it some other way | 17:11 |
| mriedem | i assume there is a logging.conf or something somewhere where you should be able to just set this stuff | 17:12 |
| mriedem | jroll: i'm just buying time brothaman. i'm in an auditorium at work right now hearing about the new hotness | 17:12 |
| mriedem | so can't review things atm | 17:12 |
| mriedem | but bs is free | 17:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/nova master: Add RPC version aliases for Ocata https://review.openstack.org/425958 | 17:12 |
| jroll | mriedem: heh, right on | 17:12 |
| mordred | mriedem: so - looking further - I _think_ the problem is that novaclient passes its own logger to keystoneauth - so in this case my config of "hey keystoneauth, please log at debug" is not matching the logger named "novaclient" | 17:15 |
| mordred | mriedem: I'm now trying also adding novaclient to the list of things I log at debug level | 17:15 |
| mordred | and we'll see where that gets me | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP]Remove mox from nova/tests/unit/test_service.py https://review.openstack.org/434437 | 18:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Change tags to default field in Instance object. https://review.openstack.org/415298 | 18:07 |
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| dims | jaypipes : oomichi : can you please take a look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434264/ - will help get a bunch of upper constraints changes into requirements (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434434/) | 18:10 |
| dims | jaypipes : oomichi : basically checks if the exception message is from the old library or new library and asserts on both formats | 18:11 |
| jaypipes | dims: on it. | 18:11 |
| jaypipes | finally done with conf calls for the day. | 18:11 |
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| dims | :) | 18:12 |
| jaypipes | dims: got a link to some output that shows the problem with this? | 18:13 |
| jaypipes | dims: in the absense of a bug report... | 18:13 |
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| dims | one sec | 18:13 |
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| dims | jaypipes : test_validate_patternProperties_fails in http://logs.openstack.org/84/433484/2/check/gate-cross-nova-python27-ubuntu-xenial/dcdc886/testr_results.html.gz | 18:16 |
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| jaypipes | dims: got it. thanks! | 18:18 |
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| jaypipes | dims: done | 18:21 |
| dims | thanks jay | 18:21 |
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| oomichi | dims: Thanks for doing that :-) This kind of message change is I imagined when implementing it at the first time. Maybe we will need this kind of change again and again. | 18:39 |
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| dims | oomichi : cross my fingers, it has held up for 2 years since your last change :) so maybe in 2 more years we revisit | 18:40 |
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| oomichi | dims: Haha, then I need to take care of them 25 times before the end of my life | 18:41 |
| dims | LOL oomichi | 18:41 |
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| mordred | dims: Patch Set 1: Verified-1 Build failed (check pipeline). For information on how to proceed, see http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#automated-testing - gate-shade-docs-ubuntu-xenial http://docs-draft.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-docs-ubuntu-xenial/0d76e6f//doc/build/html/ : SUCCESS in 1m 55s - gate-shade-pep8-ubuntu-xenial | 18:46 |
| mordred | http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-pep8-ubuntu-xenial/56ea0fa/ : FAILURE in 1m 54s - gate-shade-python27-ubuntu-xenial http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-python27-ubuntu-xenial/f4e4e9f/ : SUCCESS in 2m 55s - gate-shade-python35 http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-python35/0792130/ : SUCCESS in 1m 24s - shade-coverage-ubuntu-xenial | 18:46 |
| mordred | http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/shade-coverage-ubuntu-xenial/e55e969/ : SUCCESS in 2m 21s - gate-shade-dsvm-functional-legacy http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-legacy/9297a44/ : POST_FAILURE in 26m 36s - gate-shade-dsvm-functional-legacy-libs-nv http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-legacy-libs-nv/aac8988/ : POST_FAILURE | 18:46 |
| mordred | in 27m 46s (non-voting) - gate-shade-dsvm-functional-libs-nv http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-libs-nv/9a98b97/ : FAILURE in 33m 18s (non-voting) - gate-shade-dsvm-functional-magnum-nv http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-magnum-nv/1ecf057/ : POST_FAILURE in 25m 20s (non-voting) - gate-shade-dsvm-functional-neutron | 18:46 |
| mordred | http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-neutron/3a5b115/ : POST_FAILURE in 32m 26s - gate-shade-dsvm-ansible http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-ansible/cc31729/ : POST_FAILURE in 28m 11s - gate-shade-dsvm-ansible-dev-nv http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-ansible-dev-nv/99f5d9e/ : POST_FAILURE in 25m 11s (non-voting) - | 18:46 |
| mordred | gate-dsvm-nodepool-src http://logs.openstack.org/28/434428/1/check/gate-dsvm-nodepool-src/54b5fd4/ : SUCCESS in 36m 54s12:31 | 18:46 |
| mordred | gah | 18:46 |
| mordred | sorry everyone | 18:46 |
| dims | oops :) | 18:47 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: http://logs.openstack.org/04/434404/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-neutron/2e8773b/console.html#_2017-02-15_17_39_38_245587 | 18:47 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: I'm getting back an empty tenant_usage with novaclient latest microversion | 18:47 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: setting microversion to 2.0 seems to at least fix that test | 18:47 |
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| mordred | in any case - not sure if that's useful information or if it's just a thing I should know and deal with as I add in more explicit microversion support | 18:48 |
| mordred | but thought I'd report back | 18:48 |
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| mordred | mriedem: is there anything in the new hotness we'd be excited about? | 18:50 |
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| mriedem | mordred: new hotness = ocata? we = ? | 18:50 |
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| mordred | mriedem: oh - you're learning about ocata in an auditorium at work? I was hoping you were learning what was going to be cool after containers or something | 18:51 |
| mriedem | mordred: oh no, definitely not openstack related :) | 18:52 |
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| diana_clarke | mordred: That's worrisome.... if there are instances, you should see usage stats. | 19:26 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: should the payload be there and have 0s in the total slots even with no instances? | 19:27 |
| diana_clarke | mordred: I don't think so. Let me review the code quick. | 19:27 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: oh - also - check it out - it's sending a start and end time | 19:28 |
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| mordred | that are only different by microseconds | 19:28 |
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| diana_clarke | mordred: nope, no zeros. you have to have at least one instance to get any aggregate totals | 19:30 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: gotcha | 19:31 |
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| mordred | diana_clarke: cool - so I can fix our handling of that shade side - also, pinning back to 2.0 for now seems to have fixed the tests - so I'm good now and also know what it wants to be next | 19:33 |
| mordred | thanks! | 19:33 |
| diana_clarke | mordred: The fact that the results seem to differ between microversions is what's worrisome though.... In both cases, I would expect an empty payload. | 19:34 |
| diana_clarke | (if there are indeed no instances in that time window in both cases) | 19:35 |
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| mordred | well - there should almost never be instances - since we're passing in start=now(), end=now() ... (it may not be a very good test) | 19:38 |
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| mriedem | BobBall: johnthetubaguy: are you still around? question on this xenapi live migration fix | 19:44 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424428/ | 19:44 |
| mriedem | from what i can tell, that will blow up if using XenAPIBridgeDriver | 19:45 |
| mriedem | which is also the default vif_driver | 19:45 |
| diana_clarke | mordred: That doesn't explain how it ever passed though... which is what is nagging me. | 19:46 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: yah | 19:46 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: it definitely passes with version='2.0' - just verified https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434428/ | 19:47 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: so a payload existing with 2.0 seems to be reproducible | 19:47 |
| diana_clarke | mordred: I have a hunch that if you ignore the usage error and fix the other failing 26 tests, that it will pass again. | 19:47 |
| diana_clarke | mordred: Are you printing the payload in the 2.0 case? Does it differ? | 19:47 |
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| mordred | diana_clarke: I'm not - we only print that on test failure. I could push up a patch to cause that test to fail so that we can see it in the 2.0 case pretty easily though | 19:48 |
| mriedem | sdague: can you drop the -1 on this ocata backport for rc2? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432954/ | 19:50 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: https://review.openstack.org/434482 | 19:50 |
| mriedem | my fix is backported on top | 19:50 |
| sdague | mriedem: can we just merge them? or you don't want to for record keeping? | 19:50 |
| mriedem | sdague: i was waiting to approve the bottom patch until the top is approved | 19:50 |
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| mriedem | but go ahead and +2 | 19:50 |
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| diana_clarke | mordred: My hunch is that instance creation is failing in other tests and that the usage test has only been passing by chance (side effect of there being instances from other tests). | 19:52 |
| diana_clarke | mordred: But, as always I could be wrong. Curious to see that payload. | 19:52 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: me too! | 19:54 |
| diana_clarke | (but now() for the time window also makes me think I'm wrong) | 19:54 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i have to run out for a bit, but can you hit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434316/ and the one below it for rc2 when you get a chance? | 20:00 |
| dansmith | okay | 20:01 |
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| diana_clarke | mordred: That's a non-zero payload (it has instances). | 20:26 |
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| diana_clarke | mordred: http://logs.openstack.org/82/434482/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-legacy/e884ee5/console.html#_2017-02-15_20_14_05_828079 | 20:27 |
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| diana_clarke | mordred: So, I'm sticking with my initial hunch: side effects between tests. That usage test is relying on other tests to have first created instances in a very small time window. | 20:31 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: cool | 20:31 |
| mordred | diana_clarke: fwiw, morgan is going to make a fun fixture for us to do a project create for each test so that we're completely isolated and not bleeding over - but until then, I think reworking this test to be less flaky is a good plan :) | 20:31 |
| morgan | yes i am | 20:32 |
| morgan | just... dealing with unwinding some other insane ick atm | 20:32 |
| morgan | may be done with that unwind today... only another... 300-400 lines of code restructure to do | 20:33 |
| diana_clarke | And I'm going to go back to teaching myself tripleo. I must have been a very bad person in a past life :( | 20:33 |
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| morgan | diana_clarke: i'm sorry, so sorry | 20:42 |
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| mtreinish | morgan, mordred: fwiw, we've been planning on moving tempest's project isolation bits into the lib for the past few cycles. We could work on that together and you could reuse it in the shade tests :) | 20:50 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/432001 | 20:50 |
| mtreinish | the isolation problem is something we had to solve a long time ago when I first enabled tempest to run in parallel workers | 20:51 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: We're currently battling an increase in log volume which isn't leaving sufficient space for new jobs to upload logs and results in POST_FAILURE in those cases; recheck if necessary but keep spurious rebasing and rechecking to a minimum until we're in the clear. | 20:57 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova master: show flavor info in server details https://review.openstack.org/434514 | 21:00 |
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| cfriesen | ^ preliminary code for displaying a subset of the flavor details directly embedded in the server details. | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: did you want to get this into the next newton release (tomorrowish)? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428671/ | 21:13 |
| mriedem | sounded like a nasty bug | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: can you push this over the line? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420051/ | 21:14 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: +A | 21:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove dead code: _safe_destroy_instance_residue https://review.openstack.org/434528 | 21:38 |
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| mriedem | coreycb: do you have a fix up yet for that update_cell issue? | 21:41 |
| coreycb | mriedem, i will in about a minute | 21:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Corey Bryant proposed openstack/nova master: Enable defaults for cell_v2 update_cell command https://review.openstack.org/434533 | 21:53 |
| coreycb | mriedem, ok submitted that. i accidentally submitted that to stable/ocata first. | 21:55 |
| mriedem | coreycb: commented inline | 21:56 |
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| mriedem | it should just be the =None thing for the kwargs | 21:58 |
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| mriedem | and then probably a unit test to show that none of them are required except cell_uuid | 21:58 |
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| coreycb | mriedem, i think we can drop the 'if not' checks but should still pick up transport_url and db_connection from nova.conf if not passed as arguments | 22:00 |
| mriedem | coreycb: why? | 22:01 |
| mriedem | so that you don't have to use the command line? | 22:01 |
| coreycb | mriedem, yes which is how create_cell works | 22:01 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: does object save() noop if the field values didn't actually change? | 22:01 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: I think all save() cares about is whether the fields on the object are dirty, if they are, it will save them | 22:06 |
| dansmith | mriedem: depends on the implementation | 22:07 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we used to try to make sure to not do anything if there were no changes, | 22:07 |
| dansmith | but some people thought a save() should always have consistent refresh semantics | 22:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Corey Bryant proposed openstack/nova master: Enable defaults for cell_v2 update_cell command https://review.openstack.org/434533 | 22:08 |
| dansmith | so in the end I think we have no particular standard you can assume | 22:08 |
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| mriedem | coreycb: i left a comment in ps1 about updating the man page | 22:09 |
| coreycb | mriedem, ok | 22:09 |
| mriedem | otherwise it looks good | 22:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Corey Bryant proposed openstack/nova master: Enable defaults for cell_v2 update_cell command https://review.openstack.org/434533 | 22:17 |
| coreycb | mriedem, ok all set | 22:18 |
| mriedem | lgtm | 22:21 |
| mriedem | dansmith: melwitt: you guys should probably sign off | 22:21 |
| mriedem | on ^ i mean | 22:21 |
| dansmith | coreycb: yeah, sorry for missing that, I wrote that patch in a hurry for someone | 22:21 |
| coreycb | dansmith, np at least that was an easy fix | 22:22 |
| dansmith | coreycb: and now you feel like you were *partially* right, right? :P | 22:22 |
| coreycb | dansmith, lol yes. redemption! :) | 22:22 |
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| dansmith | coreycb: but regardless, glad to see someone else poking at this stuff | 22:22 |
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| mriedem | coreycb: your unit test failed | 22:56 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/33/434533/3/check/gate-nova-python27-ubuntu-xenial/9e0c2cc/console.html#_2017-02-15_22_26_03_881971 | 22:56 |
| mriedem | b/c of the config option thing | 22:56 |
| mriedem | testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError: 'fake:///db' != u'sqlite://' | 22:56 |
| mriedem | i can fix it quick | 22:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/nova master: Add pxe support for libvirt https://review.openstack.org/434549 | 23:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Enable defaults for cell_v2 update_cell command https://review.openstack.org/434533 | 23:02 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: I'm having unclean thoughts about ways to fool the code after an rpc call into always being to the main database for our functional tests | 23:09 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: why? what problem running into? | 23:11 |
| dansmith | melwitt: more cells-aware api calls and hitting the recursive lock thing | 23:11 |
| melwitt | dansmith: that reminds me, I had meant to mention this to you but while I was working on the counting quotas stuff, I found I needed to add something to the CellDatabases fixture like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416521/13/nova/tests/fixtures.py@398 | 23:13 |
| melwitt | I dunno if that will help at all with what you're dealing with | 23:13 |
| dansmith | melwitt: heh, I have that same change locally ;) | 23:14 |
| dansmith | melwitt: problem is, that doesn't make it over fakerpc, because it's not serialized | 23:14 |
| melwitt | ah, dangit | 23:14 |
| dansmith | melwitt: which is fine for real, but not here.. so my unclean thoughts were around hacking the serialization via mock and jamming a flag in there we could use to just say "this should always be main_context_manager" | 23:14 |
| dansmith | or something | 23:14 |
| dansmith | I guess just stashing the connection url would be better or something | 23:15 |
| dansmith | but still, need a serialization hack | 23:15 |
| melwitt | dansmith: what do you mean by "after an rpc call"? like after the rpc, you're left with the wrong db url? | 23:15 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: after an rpc call you have context.db_connection=None | 23:17 |
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| melwitt | that should fall back to main, right | 23:18 |
| dansmith | it does, but it means we call get_context with that =None, which means we take the lock, | 23:18 |
| dansmith | which we have to do because we need to use whatever target_cell has set global state to | 23:18 |
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| dansmith | oh and your change doesn't actually work for me, | 23:19 |
| dansmith | because what I'm hitting is the recursion on the lock, | 23:19 |
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| bauzas | jroll: or others, any way to guess the hypervisor_hostname given a specific instance ? | 23:20 |
| dansmith | so I have to do it before I take the lock, which is fine because the lock is just to protect global state, which isn't a problem if our context is targeted | 23:20 |
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| bauzas | I need to know the ComputeNode record related to a specific instance | 23:20 |
| bauzas | but I don't have a specific helper method in the object module for that | 23:20 |
| bauzas | mmmmpf | 23:21 |
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| bauzas | I can see a 'node' attribute | 23:21 |
| bauzas | in the instance object | 23:21 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: I still don't understand the problem. it's failing to acquire the lock or it keeps recursing or? | 23:25 |
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| dansmith | fails to acquire the lock recursively yeah | 23:25 |
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| melwitt | I'm trying to remember how it tries to acquire it recursively. I know we talked about this a couple of months ago | 23:27 |
| dansmith | well, this is a new way | 23:28 |
| dansmith | let me continue my unclean quest and see if I get anywhere | 23:28 |
| dansmith | and then you can crap all over it | 23:28 |
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| melwitt | heh, okay | 23:29 |
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| bauzas | calling it a day \o | 23:32 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: I guess it seems like it shouldn't be able to recurse unless a get_context_manager happened within a target_cell, or something | 23:34 |
| dansmith | melwitt: right, but the target_cell sets ctxt.db_connection and then the rpc call removes it | 23:35 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: so you're within a target_cell, and then an rpc call occurs and returns, then something else does a db access and get_context_manager can't acquire the lock? all within one target_cell? | 23:36 |
| dansmith | no | 23:36 |
| dansmith | you're in a target cell, then inside the rpc call but your db_connection=None | 23:36 |
| dansmith | no call/return | 23:36 |
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| melwitt | oh, on the "other side" | 23:37 |
| dansmith | right | 23:37 |
| melwitt | okay | 23:37 |
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| melwitt | yeah, something I played around with but got nowhere was I was trying to assign a default db url per service, so each would know its own default instead of doing the _last_ctxt_mgr thing | 23:38 |
| dansmith | right, which is kinda this | 23:39 |
| melwitt | so that things wouldn't blur across service boundaries | 23:39 |
| melwitt | yeah | 23:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox from nova/tests/unit/db/test_db_api.py https://review.openstack.org/434557 | 23:41 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: looking at my old notes I was trying to patch the rpc dispatch to slap the db url for the service onto the incoming context so all non target_cell db access would use it | 23:43 |
| dansmith | right, that'd be one way, | 23:43 |
| dansmith | but you have to then know what service you're in and what default connection it should be | 23:43 |
| melwitt | but the hard part was trying to match up the service:url and I didn't find a good non-messy way to do that | 23:44 |
| melwitt | yeah | 23:44 |
| dansmith | whereas if we can make it stick during a target call... | 23:44 |
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